Unsubscribe Podcast - 152 - Crazy Border Patrol Stories ft. Vincent 'Rocco' Vargas

Episode Date: April 1, 2024

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Two of the dudes in my class went down there and strangled a f***er to death. You f***er! Never show that to anyone else again. I like watching... That was kind of key. Oh! Okay. No, we don't edit anything.

You got one take on this. I can do it. It's just going to be a little bit more controlled, you know? No, no, you can't. We'll edit in for you. He told me before I got here, here when we got here he was like we're all gonna die from a tornado we just got a tornado warning dude's in our area i was like my wife's gonna call me like are you safe like trust me bro this it's in our area right now

maybe i should strikes three three miles away right now yeah we might sit here through a live tornado maybe i shouldn't have turned off all those alerts on my phone. They're just really fucking annoying, dude. Yeah, fuck them kids. I hope the cameras don't move. We just get ripped away. This podcast is like... You like bolted down those tripods.

You cared about those, apparently. It's like those rodeos where they sit at the table and they play poker while the fucking bull's coming. That's exactly what it's called. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's gone. That is metal as hell. I would never, ever do that.

Ready? Oh, shit. Hi. I'm learning. Oh, thank you. Three, two, one. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe podcast.

I'm joined today by Eli Double Fat Vincent Vargas, our guest, amazing man, and Brandon Herrera for Congress. And Donut Operator. And Donut Operator. I'm here too. Fuck me. I'm going to turn that AC down just like by two. Yeah, if Fat Boy shows up, this shit gets hot, homie. I'm a fucking heater, dog.

And you're wearing a coat. It's my comfort coat, dog. That's a full-on heavy-ass coat. God dang, what are you going to sweat up a storm in that bitch? People have those dogs that make them feel good. This is my jacket. You made that from a dog? A dog you love? It's good is my jacket. You made that from a dog? A dog you love?

It's an emotional support jacket, bro. It was my emotional support animal. It still has the head attached to the back. That's pretty fucking funny, dude. Dude, how have you been, man? This is like the first time Rocco and I, Vince and I go way back. It's so hard not to call you. That'd be like.

Oh, it's okay. I don't care. But yeah, I usually introduce myself as Vince nowadays, but either way, it's still Rocco's my life now. But yeah, we haven't seen you in a fucking long time. Years. Really? Do you know how we met originally?

I have no clue. Have you ever heard? Was it the show? No, it was before that. JT, um, introduced us to Freddie Wong, Freddie.

Oh my God. Yeah. I forgot about that entire story. Yeah. For Freddie Wong for the Christmas. I invited you guys down. So we met him for the first time and he was like, Hey,

we'll see what you guys are doing. Veteran. We're like, Oh, this guy's a fucking veteran doing dope shit too. And we, that's where we first connected. And then he started telling me his stories.

I'm like, man, this guy's pretty fucking cool. At that point we started doing range 15. We invited's when we first connected. And then he started telling me his stories. I'm like, man, this guy's pretty fucking cool. At that point, we started doing Range 15. We invited them to do Range 15. So you had your scene at Range 15.

Wait, what was Range 15? I know what it is. Okay. Are we going there? Yeah. That's the one blemish. It's a blemish in my fucking IMDb, homie.

No, it's a cult classic, right? It's a, as a filmmaker now, i'm fucking embarrassed about it but i enjoy it now more than i did when i first watched it because i'm like oh i know all these guys and i know exactly what they had in their mind when they went right i think that i think the story of it is really gorgeous and so when you know that and then you watch it like fuck i can appreciate it but as someone who's in the film industry now, I'm like, God damn, we did. We had a lot of money. We didn't. We did that.

That's the fucking turd we left him. Watching it for the first time, I torrented it and still felt like I deserved money back. You asshole. You show up to the Pirate May. I need my 999 back, motherfucker. It was a crowdfunded veteran film. Two companies kind of came together at that point. Article 15 Clothing was a pretty big T-shirt company,

competed with Ranger Up, but also there was Grunt Style. We didn't really like them, so we reached out to Range 15 and said, hey, do you guys want to partner up and kind of do a movie? We had a screenwriter come in, Billy Jay, who still me and him worked together. He wrote the first script, which was like probably a hundred million dollar script. He's like fucking lightning bolts flying out of your ass and fucking. It was like the craziest script. Like, this is dope, but we can't afford this shit.

This is the Lord of the Rings. Right. So he ended up bringing Ross Patterson in. He rewrote it. Boom, boom, boom. We did a whole crowd fund. It was the fourth highest crowd fund in Indiegogo history at the time, which that's how old it is.

Indiegogo, right? It was big. Still, it was over a million dollars. It was over a million and plus sponsorship. We had about 1.5 million paid for it. But that's the first time you also learn in filmmaking how expensive that shit is. And why you don't film in LA? Yeah, LA, we had really nice, like, food, right?

Like, the gut truck was nice. You know, the lady was making dope-ass fucking omelets. I mean, we spent a lot of money in areas that we didn't think. And then people were taxing the fuck out of us. Cause they knew we were like kind of new to the film industry world. Like you were, they knew we were nobodies. So they would kind of tax us even more.

And it was just paying the literal taxes. It's LA. Yeah, exactly. Like, so a lot of it was, it was a big learning experience. Um,

but that was where we met. We brought him on board there. Yeah. Yeah. And then I, what I remember, it was just we started hanging out and then well wait we fucking needed an editor to finish the movie

and we had to go to him to clean it up because we were running out of money bad we're like oh forgot about the vfx because you're fucking faulty like wait a minute they kicked me shots and then they were like please vfx i know they kicked in they're like, these are the VFX. I know. They kicked in. They're like, hey, these are the VFX. I was like, who did these? Yeah. And they're like, what's wrong? I was like, this is fucking, what? This is trash.

And so he fixed it for us. I was like, oh, I got to do these gunshots and make them look good. It was. But from that, he stayed into the circle of friends. And so he became closer to the friend group. And then I kind of walked away from the whole article 15 drinking bros kind of thing and try to do my own thing and landed a reality tv show for history channel and we used to build guns uh and you know i love it because this is i wasn't even supposed to be no he wasn't

it was actually it was supposed to be on the show was fucking man spot man spot was really on the show and what happened was they do a i didn't know he was even big back then he was big enough bro he was uh probably 500k i think at the time he had way more than me dog like i was at that time he was yeah i think i had 57 40 something no not a lot but um what happened they hit me up and said if i want to be his like co-host So it was like I was the second on the show and he was the lead. And I was like, oh, fuck it. It's a new show. I don't have any money right now, so let's do it. And then they did a deep dive in his social media.

And they found some shit that his channel was like, no, fuck this dude. Scrap this whole fucking show. And I was like, wait, what if I'm the lead? I said, I can carry this motherfucker. I said, I know someone who could be a really good co-host. Like who? I said, Eli. Like, would he want to do it? I was like, I don't fucking know. I said, Eli, you want to be'm the lead? I said, I can carry this motherfucker. I said, I know someone who could be a really good co-host. Like who? I said, Eli. Like, would he want to do it?

I was like, I don't fucking know. I said, Eli, you want to be on the show? He goes, uh, yeah. Boom. When was this? 2016. 2016, 2017. Oh, wow.

That is way more recent than I thought. Yeah, 2016, 2017. And that was, I got the call. He's like, you want to do this? I'm like, well, and then they called me like, you're gonna try out man spots uh social media comb did not go like did they did not like that and they're like oh no and it wasn't tossed instantly yeah it wasn't ridiculously terrible it was just one of those things he had compared something to something else and it looked really bad and you know how it is my twitter has fucked me in hollywood is what you're saying oh yeah yeah well look if you're

self-producing you're fine but if you're if you're hoping like a big big production company like that or a big network uh they're gonna do a deep comb and they probably won't move forward and that's what happened that's something that i realized early on it's like our sense of humor and everything that we do it's like the people in holly never fucking like us anyway. Yeah, but you know what? The only way they'll like you is if they know nothing about you. It comes down to like, it's the higher ups that need to cover their ass.

Got it. But in the end of the day, if you're like Broken Lizard, they can do whatever the fuck they want because they're internal. They do it all themselves. They bring all their talent. So if you guys created your own movies internally,

it'd be just as successful as the fucking podcast and anything else. You just have to keep it in house. So you try and go like ask fucking Paramount to produce. They can like fuck off, dog. You know what I mean? Like they're all going to be. We'll let you in. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. But like I was saying, it's doable. Through the yards outside. Yeah. Mexican tattooed mirror. But now I'm here for a movie. That's like Mayans day one for me. Call my West Side.

They were like, hey, go move the truck. I was like, okay. And the guy's like, he's an actor. I was like, I don't know what I am right now, dog. I'll move anything. I'm happy to be here. I'm just going to move trucks. I'm in the military.

You don't do something, I'll do some shit. Whatever you fucking say, bro. So that movie did really well for us in the sense of like, you know, really brought the communities together and that whole thing. And that's where we met. And moving forward, we did the TV show on History Channel that got five episodes, and they canceled it, which fucking a blessing in disguise

because we didn't realize we signed a contract for 52 fucking episodes for the first season. Oh, my God. 52 fucking, and I fucking lost it. Doghouse, you motherfucker. That's when we found out. That's why I, like, for an episode. I'm an asshole asshole in business if you want to know why i'm an asshole in business they taught me that really quick i was like okay fuck everyone episode a week no no breaks nothing bro it was

crazy dog i had to move my whole family to to solid because they were like you're gonna film for seven months straight i was like well then i gotta move my family here because they need they wanted us to produce it in Utah I never would have gone to Utah I don't give a fuck about Utah at the time when I got there I was like

oh this place is kind of pretty it's cool but I was cool where I was we would have actually moved probably back to

San Antonio but they said hey we want you to film it here because the history is rich in the fucking gun community blah blah blah

look I'm a gun guy but I'm not a gun guy you know what I'm saying I have like three guns because I can manage those I don't relate to this I know I know you guys are like gun guys I'm a gun guy you know what I'm saying I have like three guns because I can manage those I don't relate to this you guys are like gun guys like I'm a gun guy you know what I'm saying when I say that like I have

three guns and I know how to manage those motherfuckers pretty well but if I get more like I don't know where to put the motherfuckers right I'm not the guy that collects guns I'm a guy who shoots them fucking actively and so they're like hey can you build guns I'm like well I'm not stupid about this shit I know what to do like well they they know how to build guns can you just act I'm like fuck yeah let's go. Boom. So the whole show is pre-contrived, right? The whole fucking thing, dog.

Television? Yeah. Acting? Reality? TV? The good thing, we were actually good actors, so it fucking made the whole thing easy. But then at the same time,

you had two massive active shooters in the same, within about eight months. You had the one in Florida, and then you had the one in Vegas. The Vegas one instantly. Yeah, so they saw. That was the one in florida and then you had the one in vegas the vegas one instantly yeah so they saw that was a scary that was the one where i woke up the next day saw that on the news and thought gun rights are fucked oh i saw it and i was like our show's done and right away we got a call and we're like okay fuck it because the way television is paid for is the sponsors yeah and all the sponsors like we try to label our show as a military show

yeah they labeled it media as a gun show and so they canceled the show and then they were like let's well so with season one so those 52 episodes or 40 what how it was a shit ton they say cycles so they just label a cycle one and they're like no that's a season so you can't even renegotiate pay nothing so it's three seasons that will lock you in, but it's cycle one. This many episodes is like, oh, sorry, cycle's not a season. You have to go all through those episodes. So the show did fucking, if it did incredibly well, we still couldn't renegotiate for better pay.

We were getting paid dog shit, bro. 5K an episode, something like somewhere around there, right? Yeah, same. Yeah, I think it was, was that 7K then? I know it was a little bit more, but it was not enough like i was like dude i'm fucking going into debt but i'm gonna keep doing this right like the dream of like we had the idea like this could pop off bro we could be like diesel brothers or something like we could fucking make this happen so there's an idea like this could be what we do and i'm cool with that you know what i'm saying but as they

started making it really fake and they were scared of guns they were actually the producers are scared of guns because like the guns are so it's such a weird conversation in the film industry We talked about ak-47s like oh, we're not doing ak-47. We can't do ak-47 What the fuck you talking about like that's racist? It's really crazy thing and then then we just started in the ar-15 and they were scared as fuck of that one right What are we doing then they have these fucking old ass goddamn guns and shit? What was that the The fucking elephant gun that blew our fucking face off?

A castle gun. A wall gun? You know a wall gun? We got to fire one, dog. Straight up. And we were lucky it didn't blow our fucking faces off because the motherfucker popped, bro.

It went boom. You could have gotten Kentucky Ballistic there. Yeah, we could have got fucked up. Correct me if I'm wrong, black powder. Yes. That's scary.

Black powder is fucking terrifying if you don't know what you're doing. And it was a real authentic fucking aged motherfucking weapon. It's real, real. We were very lucky because he's right next to me when we did this. And we're just like, here we go. And we were like, oh, my God, what are we doing, bro? Like, this is going to kill us for fucking $5,000, bro. If it was like 50 grand on video we have it in

slow-mo because ronco goes clicks it it slams it's a delay so he goes like this huh it like blew out of your hand you're like oh what like he looks around i'm like oh that was a really big one and you're like oh i think we measured the the amount wrong and they put in like bro it was a fucking dangerous it could be it could have been dangerous no no but those dangerous ar-15s exactly they made a bomb that you put next to your face bro for real it's a pipe bomb with an open end yeah it was so so you know, that show ended. And, yeah, and we stayed friends. And now you're doing more in like, well, you still got your TV stuff. Now what are you doing with, are you on, can you talk about borders?

What can you talk about in that world? Because you have Mr. Herrera. He's stepping up to also conquer. I was nervous about this conversation today. No. I hear you know a thing or two. You've seen a thing or two. You hate Mexicans, right?

No. There we are, right off the gate. Whichever camera you look at, no. No. Board of Trade for seven years, and then I'm still actively helping in the space. I'm trying to help with in the journalism capacity now and hopefully better explain this subject that is kind of emotionally drawing for people. You have usually left and

right have kind of two different ideas, but like I mentioned in the book and I try and have a conversation like, I think we're all can agree it's more in the middle and we all want a safe country and we all want to allow legal immigration but we can't get to that conversation because everyone's like you know about it and so uh i try and be one of the voices in the in the industry that's that's kind of more i guess human about how i talk about it but yeah any questions man fucking let's go you have your one story where a dude jumped off what happened wait wait which one man we're gonna edit this right away what is it wait did he jump in or jump off or how can you tell that story? Or he shot himself or something?

No, the dude that died? Yeah. Did he? It was an accident? Dude, it is an accident. Fuck. I'm going to tell it. It is an accident.

And look, I didn't write about it in the book because I didn't want to be insensitive about someone's death, right? But we're about to. But we're about to. But we're about to. Because we'll be honest, it happened. So, like, fuck it, I'll tell the story. Hold on real quick. What's your book called?

It's called Borderline, Defending the Homefront. And it's essentially my memoir as a Border Patrol agent. And during my time, I went as a regular Border Patrol agent. I went to the special operations, and I wanted to. Look at that mustache. Yeah, yeah. And then I was on one of the, you know, national response teams for the border patrol attached to Bortec as their

medic. So kind of did like the full gamut of the fucking career field in seven years and then walked away to pursue Hollywood. But yeah, dude, there was an instance where I was in Del Rio and we're doing some jujitsu on the mats because the day was kind of a light day. We did some shooting training. And I, you know, I had a paddle holster, so I just took the paddle off

because we were just kind of training and we just kind of had the paddle. So I took the paddle off, put it to the side. We're doing jiu-jitsu. A supervisor goes, hey, guys, get out of here. And that's kind of like, well, fuck it. I'm out. Cut me out two hours early. Let's go.

And so single at the time, thinking about hitting the gym, going to the bar, whatever the case, right? So my mind wasn't on that gun at that moment. and so I drove an hour to my old area of operations where I lived and just because there's a lot of activity on the border I just keep the radio I move the radio wherever sector I'm in so as I pulled into the Eagle Pass sector I put the radio on and they call 920 is kind of like our operator and they say hey is there any agents in the area this sensor is going off

we're essentially they needed more help because there was already a bigger group and they were already working that group and I didn't hear anyone

say anything I was like fuck it hey 920 is Echo 375 I'm in the area without your gun yeah I didn't know

I didn't know bro I didn't know so wait so they said hey Vargas do you mind hitting us again bro I got it which bug they said it and I was like cool I'm on my way and I said what do you wait So they said Hey Vargas Do you mind I was like yeah bro I got it

Which bug And they said it And I was like cool I'm on my way And I said what do you got And they said Four bodies coming across I said sounds good

So I parked the truck A little ways And I start kind of like Walking and sneaking In the eagle pass area There's cane You've been to the border right You know that little cane

Bert shrubs You can hear it It's like Like an elephant walking through There's just cracking And so I'm like alright cool I'm gonna wait Until the fourth one passes me

And then I'm gonna jump him Try and push them up to you know north so then another agent hopefully can assist me and we'll just gain chase and as i go down i touch my side i'm like oh my god my gun's not here and i'm like oh fuck dog so i start texting in this bush i'm like go get my gun to my best friend it's chris smiley man and i'm like motherfucker go get my gun real fast then i'm like what the fuck am I going to do, bro? I don't have a gun. So then they pop out, and they don't see me. And I'm like, fuck it.

And I said, parate, with the finger gun, bro. And they would scream and fucking boom. Darn it, dog. I grabbed the first guy I could, and I'm fucking trying to get him to my truck to put him in. It was a crazy scenario. I don't really tell the fool, so here's what's going on. So as I'm trying to put this motherfucker in the truck, he's doing this. Cause I don't have

time to cuff him. Cause I'm trying to get everybody. And he's doing this in the truck, like, Nope, like a fucking cartoon. I'm like, motherfucker. And I'm trying to get them in and I'm watching. And then they say, gun. I'm like, gun. And now I'm looking like, who's got a gun. I'm looking at their hands. And then they say, help him, help him. And I look and I see a dude drowning. So one of the these jumped in that area has a heavy hook and the hook in the water creates a toe and like an undertow and pull them under and i see him and i'm a medic dude i'm a medic that does swift water rescue this is what i do bro so i'm like hey motherfucker your friend's drowning and he looked and i'm like boom shove him in close the door grab my rope bag put the water. And as I threw it right where he was, he never came back. And I was like,

fuck me. And I called radios. I said, Hey, uh, can we get boats in the water? I got one in the water. And he said, they said, yeah. Okay. Vargas, what happened? I said, uh, they scattered bro. One, one looks like he drowned the other ones in apprehension. Two of them got away. Okay. So now someone's probably drowned, so this is fucking even crazier. So that's a memo for us, right? So now I'm going to get investigated for this because someone died during my apprehension. And so the supervisor comes out to question me.

I still don't have a fucking gun. So another agent shows up and I say, you got a long arm? Yeah, I said, let me get that. So I put the long arm across my chest so no one's asking questions now, dog. So I just put it there. It's like optics, man.

Make it look good. He's not interviewing me. Fake the fuck. And my supervisor shows up and goes, why the fuck did you stop? Right. And I was like, I don't know. I just put on the radio. They said I need help.

And I came out. He goes, dude, that's why you don't. You just go home. I was like, I know. Sorry, my bad. And there's kind of combing the water, trying to see if he comes up. Usually they don't come up for about three days. So the dude's done.

Right. And I'm just kind of explaining like, listen, I good intentions and, and that's jumped them is what we say. We jumped them. I said, stop. And they just scattered. So as I'm talking to get interviewed by my supervisor, cause now I have to write a memo and there's kind of how you try not to lose your job. Um, they go to take the guy out of the back of my truck. And I said, he's not cuffed, bro. He's not cuffed bro he's not cuffed is it okay this dude boom bust the door open and fucking jumps into the river and gets away that's called absconding that's an FBI investigation and now I'm under investigation for two motherfucking things in one day and I

thought you were gonna say he jumped right in where his buddy was and just I said they're like and then sir can i just give you my badge i was like fuck oh my god i love that you were like he's not cuffed okay so as i was saying yeah i was completely like guys like i'm already in trouble dude fuck guys you know and then i started thinking like i should i've cuffed him like uh you know i think i the right thing, but I told him he's not cuffed. So fuck, do your job too.

Although if you think about it though, like from a certain point of view, which is always, you know, that's nice that from a certain point of view, I did the right thing. But like legitimately, if his buddy wasn't such a piece of shit and fought you so much,

he probably could have saved. I would have saved him. Yeah. Cause the thing is, I'm not afraid of, I'm a really good swimmer. I know those waters really well. I would have just jumped in.

But, um, when I saw how, how he was struggling struggling i just threw the rope back and first hopefully grabbing then if i had to come in i would have but once he doesn't grab it i'm not going to go fucking jump in because i'm not an idiot right now it's a recovery and so i was like fuck dude yeah you don't want him fighting you in the water right that's the thing like i've i've swam up to a dude and the whole time like soon as i get there i'm gonna have to knock this motherfucker out right like i've seen those movies bro you kick him in the face right like fuck off you know

turn around bitch you're right got him no but like i know like if i go in i'm gonna get probably pulled under so you know i tried to i did i did the best i could but then smiley goes what the fuck just happened i said bro dude died he goes you killed a dude with your finger gun i was like no fuck and it turned into a thing bro like everybody was like dude you killed a dude with your finger gun. I was like no fuck Everybody was like dude you got a fucking kill with a finger gun With the finger gun, but the finger gun did lead to a death lead to a death dude And it was something like these guys wouldn't let up where you're pointing that Because like on safety rules medic supposed to save lives like they wouldn't let me hear the end of it.

And I was just like, but I felt fucking bad. The whole scenario was like, you know, you don't intend to do that. Like I give a fuck about the job. I don't care what the motherfucker was doing. I would risk my life to save people. And even if they're a piece of shit, I don't know that at the time, I'd still fucking try and save a motherfucker just because of where my heart's at. So the scenario didn't like

you know it didn't just happen I'm like oh fuck him I was like it took a couple nights sleeping like that sucks dog like fuck Vince

have your gun on you and fucking be prepared and like all the things in my head like what the fuck dude but nothing could have changed it either if you had your gun on you

it probably wouldn't have been better well I never would have punched my gun out because I'm not scared of these dudes but I did because I didn't have one

I was like so I don't know why I love that logic it's like because you didn't have a gun you're like if I had one I never would have punched my gun out because I'm not scared of these dudes, but I did because I didn't have one. I was like, so I don't know why. I love that logic. It's like because you didn't have a gun. You're like, if I had one, I would have presented. Yeah. So I try to present with intimidation because I don't have nothing in case of God effect. You're kind of intimidating.

I don't know. I forget what I look like, bro. Look at the fucking jawline on that guy. I know. That was when you were 230 pounds of muscle. Yeah. These guys have just walked 50 miles.

They're not in their best shape. They're not big, bro. They're not big. They're like, Jesus. Yeah. They're real Mexicans.

They're like, well, Hawkins. They're like four nothing. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Yeah. So, that's not in the book.

That's not in the book. But it's on the record. I didn't know how to word that in the book. That's not in the book. But it's on the record. I didn't know how to word that in the book to make it seem not insensitive, I guess. So I was like, fuck it. But I did write a piece where I was like, you know, I've lost dudes where, you know, it sticks with you.

Like, you remember the face of people who drowned and when you're watching them, especially, right? Because that fear in their eyes is like, that's traumatizing, bro. You're drowning. That is not a fun. That like, it's, that's traumatizing, bro. You're drowning. Yeah. That is not a fun. That is,

it's, it's a, it's a, it's a hard thing to watch at times. And there's some people who are psychopaths that just don't give a fuck, but I'm not that guy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

So there's still time, Rocco. My heart might fucking freeze over one day. Dude, you got, because it's crazy for what you did. If, if you don't know,

you were range rat, second bat. You were also a Gustav Gunner. When I first got there, yeah. He had some little rattles. 64 rounds in one day one time. Jesus Christ. That's some TBI's right there. Isn't the limit like five?

It's supposed to be four or five, something like that. But it was weird, man. They dropped all this huge pallet. And they were like, we got to get rid of these today. And I was like like I could have sworn They just taught me I mean I'm only here I've only been here

A couple months guys But I'm pretty sure They told me not to shoot This more than five But we took like Two days off after that We were fucked up bro Fucked up bro

If I can It's with the Ranger bat When you're a private You are nothing You are less than A private in the bat I remember one of my buddies He made it And then i ran into him at

best buy and he was just like hey i was like oh what the fuck how'd you make it here you're supposed to be in 80 second he's like oh i actually passed rip at that time ranger introduction program and i was like oh fuck congrats how is it he's like they fucking hate me eli i think they want to kill me oh god he's, oh, God. He's like, what are you doing? I was like, standing up a unit. I have a specialist as my first sergeant right now. He's like, his eyes. It was like when I got there, I was 23 years old.

I already had a daughter. I did four years of college. Fuck that all up, right? Three years and plus, right? I felt like I was pretty mature for a new dude in Ranger Town. And, man, I got there and I questioned everything. everything i was like man they they're fucking assholes and they beat the fuck out of you and i'm a big dude bro i got the fucking dog shit beat out of me one day when they first got back from pat tillman's deployment right so i got there right when that

happened i actually was in processing they got our dcus we're supposed to reach back bird to meet up with them uh he's an alpha company i was an alpha company he was in second. They got our DCUs. We're supposed to do a reach back bird to meet up with them. He's an alpha company. I was an alpha company. He was in second platoon. I was in first platoon. And so when we got there, then they shut it down, guard the gates. When you answer the phones, just say this.

Don't fuck this up. Right. We're like, OK, cool. And so they say, hey, when they get back, have beer and porn. Right. Because like, I don't know, that's what they told us. I'm like, whatever's going to make them happy. I mean, I had no money and I bought a ton of shit for them. Right.

Because I'm like, I don't know. They just lost one of their dudes. So this is kind of gay. It's just guys with porn. They specifically requested it, Eli. So there's a new guy in Ranger's Town. You just do what the fuck you're told. And there was a dude that came back.

And I won't mention his name. But he was bigger than me a little bit. And I probably could have fought him. But I was so intimidated by everyone else beating my ass too that I was like, fuck it. And he choked me the fuck out to the point where I remember waking up like, oh shit, I'm alive. Thank God. You know what I mean? Like, like it was fucking wild, bro. And I just was like, this is, this is a, it made me scared. Like, what am I doing? Like, I don't want to get my ass kicked every fucking day. But as you, 30 days later, I'm fucking Afghanistan. And then once you do a deployment, you gain a lot of

respect because they kind of see how you carry yourself. And again, I'm in fucking Afghanistan. And then once you do a deployment, you gain a lot of respect because they kind of see how you carry yourself. And again, I'm fucking one of the more mature dudes there, so I kind of got a little bit of... I guess they gave me a little bit of slack because I was more mature. But yeah, dude, it was a fucking... I wanted to quit several times because I'm like, this is stupid. They beat the fuck out of me. I was jumping room to room where they're shooting me with a fucking pellet gun.

I mean... I mean... I don't know if he's right, guys. I'm not sure if he should... One of the privates, I mean, I mean, like, I don't know if he's right, guys. Like, I'm not sure if he should have, bro, that man in one of the privates wore a helmet, put his head back, and they were throwing bottles off the fucking hard helmet? I was specifically told we were in a hazing-free military, no. No, bro. No, because you know what's funny is that I did the same when new guys came.

I beat the fuck out of them, too, and I feel bad for it. I actually messaged a dude like a couple years ago, bro, I'm sorry, right? A lot of trauma. I didn't mean to give that to you. It happened to me. This line has been disconnected. Oh no. It was one of those things where like, you know. No, this is how abuse happens. These are the cycles of generations of shit like how dads

beat dads. You know what I mean? I was a soldier just beating the fuck out of my soldier because it happened to me dude. It's what happens. You know? Brian Little, if you watch this, we're good now. But I know you hated me, dog. I made him climb the fucking rope. And he was at the top.

I climbed behind him and grabbed his leg and ripped him off the top of the rope, bro. I don't know what I was thinking. And then when he got to the bottom, he was just like, man, Skyrim just came out. I fell off the rope at Bud's and I tweaked my back and it was 11-11-11 and the game, the Elder Scrolls Skyrim had just came out and they went and med-rolled me

and I was like, alright, I quit. Ding, ding, ding. I want to go play Skyrim. Bro, that's funny. You're like, Doc, what's today? I quit. Just the way you tell the story. You're just staring up at the blue sky. You were in the Navy?

I didn't know that. I had no idea, man. I just know Donut. Brandon, how many years did you serve? Fuck off. Is that what it is? It all started with a fucked up joke on Veterans Day.

The Veterans Day episode? It was Veterans Day episode, yeah. We had Crispy and everyone. It was Crispy, Jack, and you. And, yeah, he just comes over. He's like, just to get this out of the way, Brandon, thank you for your service. And he goes to pin his purple heart on me.

I'm like, no, no, no, get that the fuck away from me. Fucking this ass. Oh, that's funny, dude. And the fucking, the Reddit has not let it die. And now there are people responding to legitimately, like, legitimate political posts, like, with really good Photoshop's of me, like, getting the Medal of Honor. They're like, thank you. So I'm like, stop, stop.

I know you guys are, like, half fucking retarded. Some of the pictures, he already has two, and they're putting another one up. Which, if you know anything it's kind of funny that's hilarious dog they just keep pitting they're really good too some of those photoshops are hard

the way the world receives information people believe it and I just keep thinking I'm like guys I know you're half retarded but like this is our funny time

I'm doing my serious time right now please don't so funny stolen valor and we did forced valor we're like you're a fucking veteran this is our funny time. I'm doing my serious time right now. Please don't. So funny. Stolen valor. And we did forced valor. We're like,

you're a fucking veteran, Brandon. We should put you through a basic training and at least award you with something. We were going to take the ASVAB. Yeah. We're all going to take the ASVABs on here. Oh, really? Yeah.

Oh, it's going to be rough. I think I'll do all right. If it, no, I don't know. When's the last time you did fractions? Oh yeah, I'm not good with math.

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84-millimeter recoilless rifle, 20-something pounds. G-Van, bring that up. Let's look at a clip real quick of that. It's dope. It's an explosion going off next to your fucking head. Causes a lot of TBIs. Like at 10, you get a lot of TBIs. Like at 10, you get a free nosebleed.

What they want, if you're loading the motherfucker, that's where the most pain happens because you're farther from the overpressure. And so once we load it, you try not to touch the gunner because you'll fuck up the aim and you're just like, please, motherfucker, go, go, go, go, go. And boom, you're like, god damn, like load it. You're like. And you get really close like, motherfucker, please please and if you bump like a senior gunner bro they

fucking flip so it's like it's a it's a it's an it's and it's heavy bro like they put my big ass there because i was bigger than most of these dudes and like oh you carrying so he's like you have four rounds you have full combat load right and then you're just fucking loaded these bitches and it's like then like i go shooting so then you shoot shoot. And so, yeah, I knew I had a TBI before I got out. Like I knew it. I started having a weird stutter when I first got out and I couldn't, I lost like 18 debit cards a year. Do you remember that?

Do you remember how many debit cards I lost? Oh my God. Yeah. You just lose them. I lost my government credit. Sorry. I lost another credit card. Today.

I lost a card. Today. Today. Oh shit. My wife's like, like yeah it's canceled I was like I know but I have to write a memo now like

I just lose shit all the time he got lost on his way here I did it's like where am I when it's dark when it's dark I have trouble bro when it's dark

nothing looks familiar bro I'll be on my own street I'm like come get me babe they'll give you two what two days you just carry around like a road flare

just she knows where I'm at at all times cause I get lost bro You just carry around like a road flare. She knows where I'm at at all times because I get lost, bro. So you shot all those and then they were like, okay, take two days off. I have TBI. It's just range of town trains. It's all infantry, all military kind of trains, stupid. And you realize now how much you fucked yourself up.

Like I didn't get hurt by the enemy. I got hurt by my own training. And that's fucking crazy, dog. Like, you sit with that motherfucker, you know, and you're like, fuck. Because even when you did, I did the master breacher course. I never finished it because I was hungover in Afghanistan. A whole different story. We'll get there. Probably harder to do than getting

hungover stateside. But yeah, dude, it was just like you do all these explosions. You know, we used to do flashbangs in the room and like they say, you got to be able to know what it's like. So you get in the room

and they just drop flashbangs and the six bang, you're like, you're like, I'm good, sir. And they're like, all right, good. So in a fight,

you're not going to flinch. I'm like, all right, dog. Now my ear's like, all the fucking time. Oh God, they do it without ear pro? Yeah.

Oh dude, we didn't have ear pro at that time. There was no, there was zero ear pro. Yeah, that's the point we finally had have ear pro at that time. There was no. My last appointment. Yeah, my last appointment, we finally had them in, bro. I remember we took fire. We're like, where the fuck did that come from, dog?

Because you don't know at first. It takes you time to learn the directional shit on these fucking pellet tours. The first time you ever hear, you're like, what was that? Oh, someone's shooting. I tell that story of when I was, was remember we backed up a team's pin down i'm shooting the 249 just like i don't know i just see a lot of higher up uh just really high buildings i was like maybe they're maybe they're just trying to look for fire but i'm just laying suppressive fire they're getting in i'm shooting the 249. I feel like this. What?

What? What? What? I'm like, you're getting shot at. I'm like, no, I'm... Like, they were just whipping by my head, and I didn't know anything because of those. I think eventually they got better. I can't...

I remember, like... You're great now. Yeah, when I was at the border patrol and you used it, like, they were fucking money, but I remember my first time using them overseas, patrol and you used it, like they were fucking money. But I remember my first time using them overseas and we were all trying to figure them out. And cause I ran a couple of radios too. So I had internal comms and I had the squad comms.

And so you have all the cables too. So we're trying to figure all that shit out. It was a whole new thing. Back then we were like, why can't this be Bluetooth? Like back then we thought about like, this could be Bluetooth. It could simplify.

Dude, doing radio stuff. You've, have you done like the flashing of the radios or anything like that bro it is i couldn't even tell you the worst at that you have an entire thing that you have to do and you have to plug in the film yeah the film you had to get a film the fill is exactly like it's the it's the encoded um i guess frequencies for the for the mission and each mission you have a different fill and so they have to reprogram your radio every mission and here's the crazy part every mission and we used to carry our radios on our backs and when you change a battery if you don't do it fast enough you lose the fill yeah so then you'd have to be like hey i need the rto to come and do the fill and they do the fill again but it'll happen randomly in a mission sometimes.

You're like, oh, fuck, comms are down, and you have to find someone to fucking redo your fill. So it was a lot of little things. I just imagine us trying to do that with our group here, just with all the different comms and shit, like all the shit we've got, and then accidentally one of us hits the wrong frequency, and all of a sudden we're listening to Spanish music or whatever, just like oh wait shit

this ain't right i know how our group would go it'd be like this this is everyone just call me here let's get a group chat going okay there we go let's tape this here we're running we're running group comms on discord yeah it's like just public information bro in in 2012 the border patrol all their radios were compromised on our missions when I was with Bortech. I was their medic down in RGV sector in McAllen. That was like the hottest time. It was like fucking tons of dope, tons of bodies. And every radio was compromised.

So if you said on the radio like, hey, I got bodies over here or I got bundles, it'd get broken up. You're like, what the fuck? So we all went and got tinting on our iPhones. And we were texting the whole fucking mission, bro. I'm like, bodies, bodies, bodies over here. And then you change your grid coordinates, and people start running over there. And that's the only way we communicate

because everything else was compromised. How did they get compromised? They stole radios from the fucking agents. Holy. All the time. That's a common thing. If you leave your radio in your vehicle, it's very common for them to break in and steal your shit.

Yeah. Our radios are all compromised. Maybe not now, but they were when I was there. Yeah, so we text. It's the fucking funniest thing, bro. You got night vision, you're like, hey, bro, come over here. I got bodies over here.

So that's why you were texting in a bush. I don't have my fucking gun. Fuck. You're like, holy shit. So what was on your first... Oh, God, you just do it over console. I don't have my fucking gun they just like turn around yeah yeah oh no no no no no god do we use shopify

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You were like. You know, you have friends who help you. But, yeah, I put a 550 cord on my wrist, bring it around, tied it to my other wrist so I can keep it on my gun. And then my friends help me put my rucksack on and off sometimes. But, yeah, I fell early on in mountain phase, and it severed my brachial plexus nerve i had no idea i thought i had a fever i was like oh i don't feel so good today man what's going on

i type in my shirt i was like god damn my arm doesn't work and i told my buddy he's like go to the med call i'm like fuck no dog i'm already in mountains phase i'm not recycling so we got through mountains phase got into fucking florida phase which is tough because the boats like i couldn't steer a boat one time i'm trying to steer and a fucking stick hit me in the chest, threw me out of the boat. My partner grabbed my fucking shoes. I'm drowning. They pull me back in.

They give the fucking coccyx, the guy who's fucking steering a major minus for getting me hurt. Right. And I'm sitting there like, holy fuck, what happened? A normal arm would have been like, you know, peri left, peri right. And the fucking arm didn't work. So just knock me right out Of the fucking thing Ended up graduating

Very luckily Like seriously It's all luck The ranger Ranger school is like Your friends really support you That's how They say your battle

Your ranger buddy Earns your tab So like everybody Supports each other That's how you get it When I graduated I was a distinguished Honor graduate

And I was like Kind of shocked by it Because like I went to go shit In the woods one day And they fucking Gave everyone major minuses So they missed me Because I'm shitting in the fucking woods right fucking

serious swear to god i'll swear to god you're just passing by yeah i'm just like what are they doing they're all getting in trouble because their weapons were all dirty so you were really quiet you're like yeah i'm like oh fuck you literally just you you missed it just because it took you longer to wipe with one fucking hand you're like i'm I'm not left-handed or right-handed. It was so crazy that everyone kept getting major minuses, and then one day an officer fell asleep on my mission. I picked him up, and I fucking kicked him in the ribs, and I fucking slammed his head. I was like, motherfucker, stay awake.

And the ranger's like, hey, great job, ranger, major plus. And so I kept getting awards for weird shit, and then they kept getting in trouble for other shit, and they kept missing me, bro. So by the end of it, they graded everyone. You got three medals of honor. By the end of it, i have really high peer points because like i'm working my ass off for everyone but then the other side is like i got all these major pluses no major minuses and everyone else does they're like i guess you're a distinguished undergraduate i'm like fuck it

let's do this right get in front of general ferriter fucking awesome guy i knew his son because he was in our class with us. Oh, that's a good friend. He goes to salute and I'm just like... He's like, do you have a screen? And you have a little system, a pulley system on it. He's like, what happened to your arm, son? I was like, you can start working in a balanced phase. He's like, good job. And he just walked away

and I was like, yeah. And it took about nine months for that to come back. It was wild, bro. We didn't... We weren't sure if it was for that to come back. It was wild, bro. Wow. We weren't sure if it was ever going to come back, but the way nerves grow really slow, we just kept doing the physical therapy with it, had to keep kind of moving it, trying to keep building muscle because it was like atrophied, right? So it got really thin.

And eventually, that's why I ended up missing a deployment because of that, and that's the deployment where we lost Sarn Braz and Sarn Brim, two of the most influential leaders of my career um and that was a that was a that was a hard blow for me because like um you feel guilty you know and you feel like I wish I was there I've said it before like I wish it was me who died that day because I really Sarn Braz was someone I looked up to and someone who um was like a father figure for me it's like like, uh, when you show up and I was thinking, I was looking for Rangers, like my vision of a Ranger would be like a GI Joe, you know, character.

Um, and I was pretty good sized dude, but everyone around me was like, not this impressive specimen, you know, cause Rangers are actually pretty small dudes, right? Really, usually really thin, good runners. And, uh, he walks out like this big jacked Mexican dude. And I was like, holy fuck, that's a Ranger. Like straight up, that's the dude. By chance, we became, you know, pretty good friends. And when he was killed, it was a blow. It was a big blow to me, you know. And if I wasn't injured, I would,

I always fucking play that shoulda, coulda, wouldas, and what ifs. And I always imagine, I would hope that I was me in the room and maybe I would have taken those rounds. And he would still be here today and probably doing way more cooler shit than I ever have. So, yeah, so it was,

it all kind of caused me some, you know, years of guilt. But now you, you did push through that through like the survivor's guilt is something real and then it's pushing through that. And now, I mean,

especially where you are now, you try to live in their honor. Yeah. And I think that's a huge, important thing to live, live for them and then tell that story tell their stories we got the you've told one of their stories with a drunken debrief like but you talk about them in such a high regard of how awesome they were i think it's it's one

of those things that like a lot of veterans i think we don't do is we take the opposite perspective what a lot of us go is we we drink in the memory we kind of destroy ourselves out of guilt and showing them how much we love them we hurt ourselves you know what I mean but like it's a it's a thing that I think we were also taught in our in our units we're kind of taught in our culture uh and then I started like I fucking was like what am I what am I doing you know I mean like I think I'm a man of God I believe in you know the higher power and I thought like if they're watching if somehow they can see me there's no way they're saying go get drunk bitch you know can see me, there's no way they're saying, go get drunk, bitch. You know what I mean? Like, there's no way, right? And they're probably like, motherfucker. If I had a chance, I'd spend more time with my wife. I'd see my kid. I'd, uh,

I would enjoy life. And so I kind of now take that whole mindset and just like, I'm going to do as much as I fucking can in this life as much as I fucking can. And, and hopefully they're proud. But at the same time, the residual effects that my kids would be proud and, and I can be proud of my wife could be proud of me. It's not a fucking bad way to approach this. You know what I mean? And so that's kind of how I've kind of swung the whole perspective of it. And now you're crushing it.

What is one of your favorite memories from either of them? Because you had the drunken debrief story. That's always a good one because they're the ones that you're getting the shit smoked out of you. What was the drunken debrief? I'll tell you. I may not have seen that one. So we had a, that was fucking one of his first really incredible videos that you did that I was like, this motherfucker is the real deal.

And we got really drunk one night to do the drunken debrief and we're telling stories. And one of the stories was about one of our ncos who who was kind of one of those ncos i'll say it now he was probably picked on in high school became an nco now picked on us you know those personalities that kind of game the kind of people that will be cops cody i almost made that joke he was the one dude that i was like this guy doesn't get it like that's not good leadership that's just like abusive right he was just kind of guy doesn't get it. Like, that's not good leadership. That's just, like, abusive, right? He was just kind of a tyrant.

And I fucking hated his guts from the beginning. I saw there was a good person in, but he was just such a dick that it really bothered me. So one night, they made me clean the barracks. And I had a house at the time, dog. I'm like, you're not going to make me clean the barracks. I got a house. I clean my own shit, you know? So they made me there.

So we got a bunch of beer, and we got fucking tanked. And I said, let's go move his car. And he had this little beater car. So it took about eight of us and we lifted his motherfucking car and moved it in a way where no one could get back into the parking lot. And then we wouldn't continue to drink the rest of the night. Forgot about it, passed the fuck out drunk. And in the morning it was on. So again, not subtle, not move it to a different area. You just block. No one can come in. Yeah. No one can come in. Explain how the parking lot for Ranger Bat works. So it's just one circle like this. And so you block this.

No one's going here. So first sergeant, the first guy to show up, couldn't get to his parking spot. And he knew what car that was. It's like a piece of shit green car. That doesn't work, just so you know. It doesn't move. And so he goes, the first sergeant goes ahead.

The story goes. The first sergeant goes ahead the story goes he goes the first one goes ahead and was like move that piece of shit car out of the fucking parking lot and he goes uh first one it doesn't work so he goes out and sees it's like what the fuck boom he knows it's us gets all i'm too busy fucking passed out in the senior dude's room because i was a little older so like i said i kind of hung out with those so i passed out they're getting fucked up it was matt it was all these dudes was all these dudes, right? All these dudes.

They had to move the vehicle back because it didn't work. So they had to fucking move it back. Then they're getting fucking smoked for hours. And finally I show up and then I'm getting smoked with them. And they're like, dude, they were, it was all the shit talking you could think of. But my squad was like, pretty fucking funny, bro. I thought so too. But yeah, no, it was a. God, the hazing for hours. Yeah, bro. I thought so, too. But, yeah, no, it was a...

God, the hazing for hours. Yeah, dude. It was... Hours of smoke session. Like, imagine doing 30 minutes of push-ups or burpees and then having that go for, like, four hours. Yeah, but there was no rules there, so they can fuck you up and it didn't matter.

Dude, it didn't matter. They would fuck you up. And if they wanted to fucking put hands on you, they could have. You know what I i mean it was a really interesting kind of culture two hours two hours boxing with you eli i'm ready to fucking puke i'm good like i'd fuck that man i would be ready to puke at two hour mark i'm like my arms don't hold up and i get to leave and go get water i think the beautiful thing about Ranger Battalion, it raises really young soldiers to be very, very disciplined. Like when I say jump, you fucking do it.

And I think it makes us really successful in combat. And I think it's also why a lot of other special operations units like to participate with us or ask us to support them. Because we're dogs, man. We're not tier one, but we're tier two and we're the fucking fighting force, right? We come in massive numbers and we will fucking rip down fucking walls and that's the cool thing about us is like if sean brothers said hey go run through that fucking wall i wouldn't question i'd run through the fucking wall and that was the kind of like respect i had for the leaders that led me and then when i was a leader i felt the same for my subordinates and so it's a really

cool organization and really cool culture he comes with the good and the bad man i mean but it's a wartime you know i mean they're trying to raise fucking monsters and we did i think we did you i mean because how many deployments are four month cycles right four to six i did three tours i did uh two to afghanistan one to iraq i did afghanistan iraq afghanistan and mosul was iraq that was like a really good deployment for us. And I don't know what the numbers are anymore, but we was like, it was a considered a mission complete. Like you show up and like, hey, this is the guy we're getting and we're going to go after these guys, you know. And eventually we ended up getting to the main dude and it was a fucking, felt good. It felt good for us to show up and like take out the guy we were supposed to get. It's never happened in my career.

So we were like, oh oh that's badass god yeah and then you got out same i think we got out like the same time oh wait no i got out in july 2007 okay one year okay one year before me yeah old school yeah and it was fort lewis like same bars yep we all it's that weird like oh the swiss the chopsticks oh yeah every bar everything you guys didn't meet up at all during that time no afterwards you're just oh yeah we hung out and did all the same shit it's all the same places yeah same you know all the same stories you know during that time when you were there i was there uh we had some dudes rob a bank you know what i mean oh my god i forgot that yeah yeah charlie charlie company reminds me we need to have his tj story oh yes

because we didn't get that. Done. Yep. Dudes, oh, my God. Yeah, because you guys also, Shitbag, we won't say his name, but you remember the Shitbag that got kicked out from here? Oh. It's, you know, there's a lot of crazy things that happened in one of these, a group of dudes, young dudes, they mapped out the bank.

They practiced robbing the bank, and they brought some guns back from overseas. Oh, my God. I forgot about this completely. And they fucking robbed the bank. They practiced robbing the bank and they brought some guns back from overseas. Oh my God. I forgot about this. And they fucking robbed the bank, bro. And they robbed. And it was fucking, and it was good. Like,

like the video, you're like, Hollywood shootout style. Yes, but they never had a pull trigger. They fucking intimidated everyone. They got in, they got out.

They robbed the bank. Like, like at any kind of movie, it really was, when you watch the tactics, you're like, Ooh, that's pretty good.

You know, like second Ranger bat robbed. Yeah. Not the whole Ranger bat. Just a couple of guys. Three young dudes. Three young privates. I think I almost did a story

on this one. Yeah, they planned it. They plotted it. They outlined it. Everything. And then they went and did it. And it was very successful. The only thing that got them caught

was their license plate was on one of the vehicles that one of the cameras caught. And supposedly... I forgot about that. He said it was intentional because of the war crimes that happened overseas.

That's where he spun it to that. I forgot about that segment. So I don't even know what happened to him at that point. But yeah, I mean, that was the era of all that weird shit. God, I forgot all about that because that was huge news. That was insane, bro. At Fort Lewis during that time. It changed everything for us for coming back from deployments because we never really had the customs thing.

And all of a sudden, like, yeah, we're going to customs, so you can't bring anything back. You know what I mean? Yeah, I grew up on Bragg. I knew they knew they brought some wow that's what i'm saying back in the day you could bring back weird shit don't you you had a connex yeah bro you had a connex that no one checked put whatever the fuck you want in the motherfucker god about that and then it was like who the fuck is this guy customs oh shit and you dump in your bag they can't take that can then they started looking through our cameras yeah because they wanted like cameras phones anything they would just start all of your fucking like war pictures of you know dead dudes or whatever yeah would get you in trouble now that's why live leak sucks so bad

around that time yeah you had that yeah that did that lively content farmers where's my footage where's my footage dude Dude, I forgot. Holy shit. So when we went through customs, when we came back, it was dump everything. I couldn't even keep an Iraqi gas mask that I found over there. And I was like, oh, this is dope. And then I had a whole bunch of dinar and stuff. I was lucky enough to be able to bring a couple flags. You know, Afghani flag, Iraq flag or something like that.

You can't bring back much. Couldn't fucking bring back the spoils of war. Put me back in here, bro. This is bullshit. Give me back my ear necklace. Pillaging and looting. That is why I joined the military. The pains of Japanese skulls.

There were dudes I knew back on Bragg, like old Vietnam vets or whatever, that pull shit out of like an oil drum in their backyard. They're just like, yeah, so I got this piece from Vietnam. Like, all right, two things. One, I never saw that. Two, never show that to anyone else again. Burn it. Burn it. You don't fucking have that, bro.

Yeah, I snagged a gun from a mission once, and Sarn Braza caught me. He's like, what are you doing? I was like, I wanted to take this. Let me see it. And then he took it. That's a leader. And you were not going out. I was like, okay.

I'm going to do that to one of my pilots. Yeah, I'm going to do that. That's mine now. That's a pretty smooth move. Eli, wake up. Huh? I know that the GhostBed pillow is super comfortable and has cooling technology, but we're shooting an ad right now You mean this goes by pillow that one cooling technology cooling technology. It's hot in Texas, but that's cool Eli

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in buds we could not go down to tj and it was because two of the dudes in my class went down there and strangled a hooker to death and tried to strangle her pimp to death no no for real yeah yeah and tijuana for those who don't yeah he played like the which is like right across the border from where you were doing uh yeah because san diego's right there within like 10 minutes of the border so like everyone would go down there and party on the weekends and shit and then we couldn't because yeah my classmates tried to kill two. They successfully killed the hooker. They didn't kill the pimp.

He managed to pass out and get away. And I almost got away with it if it wasn't for those. Those damn meddling pimps. Dude, I went down there in college. I was 18 years old. You know, you turn 18, everyone goes down to Mexico. You know, I don't know if you guys know, but in California, everyone goes to Mexico to try and party at 18.

And I brought this kid who spoke fluent Spanish. And we called him Greg Maddox. I don't know why. He was a little Mexican dude that barely spoke good English. You gave him the whitest name possible? He was Greg Maddox! He showed up to try and play for the college team, and he wore a Greg Maddox shirt. That's what it was. And so we just called him Greg Maddox. We called him Maddox.

He was like a cholo, kind like very very mexican dude and i said bro me and my i have a twin sister right so i'm like hey me and my twin sister want to go down to to to we're going to rosarito right so it's like probably 30 minutes past tj okay really cool fucking city like it's a really cool one so i said bro do you want to go with me dude i'll pay for fucking all the gas like i'll buy some of your food and shit just just roll he goes yeah yeah cool so he's like my translator because I don't speak good Spanish for shit it's me him my sister her friends a couple of my friends

we go and the first place we try and go to is Papa's and Beer which is like the big party spot you go there and have a good time they check his pants and he has fucking weed on him bro and you bring drugs to fucking Mexico game on right well that's fucking ironic we're smuggling and you bring drugs to fucking Mexico. Game on, right? Well, that's fucking ironic. We're smuggling them in.

This is a one-way road, bro. We tried to give you all the ones, all the shit we had. That's what he uses. He's like, I was bringing it back. Return to sender is a fucking problem. This motherfucker, bro, he had it in that little fifth pocket that you forget about, I guess,

is what he said. He goes, dog, please don't leave him here, bro. Please help me, bro. They're going to put a burrito in my ass. And I was like, what? And I'm learning like this is not good, right? He's going to go to a Mexican jail. And so we had to spend a lot of money.

And our vacation ended that day. We just paid, got him out and went home. And I was pissed the whole time. Like, you motherfucker ruined my birthday, dog. Fucking Mexico. It was just like a little dime bag or something. It was a small dime bag, bro. Yeah, personal use, right? Like, who gives a fuck? But they were going to tax the fuck out of bag or something. It was a small dime bag. Yeah, personal use, right?

Like, who gives a fuck? But they were going to tax the fuck out of us for it. Mexico gives a fuck, apparently. Yeah, yeah. They just laid down. They taxed the fuck out of us. No, no, no, we're going to the United States. Oh, and I could, yeah.

Yeah, 100-pound bundles. They're like, oh, God. 100-pound bundles. Dude, and then what are you covering in that? Is it just mostly, do you talk any about your, like, your Ranger Bat stuff, or Is it just mostly Do you talk any about Your like Your Ranger Bat stuff Or is it just with Border No it leads into

What made the decision For Border For Border Patrol There you go Some bundles right there Oh holy shit Holy Moly

That is a lot of drugs I think that was like 800 pounds that day 900 pounds It's a weekend for Tommy John There's another one Yeah that's all in the RGV sector That's all in the RGV sector

It was pretty busy at that time. You're just sitting on it. Is that coke or weed? No, that's weed. You probably don't see that anymore because how weed is different nowadays. If you guys want to see it, check out his book. That's crazy because the one thing I will say is when, like, war stories, you were in war.

You were in actually, like doing the border patrol stuff. You're like, oh, I'm, you're actually running missions and you were actually covering down on that. Yeah. And then what is like for one reference, what is like one of the craziest stories that you dealt with, like in the border stuff? You know, everything we do with that dope is usually our mission was to disrupt drug trafficking organizations. And so you gather target packets and you get the intel and then you just dismantle them slowly by destroying all their, all their products, by collecting it, catching it, by getting their informants, by turning on,

you know, it's just like a, it's a whole process. It's just like any kind of law enforcement kind of investigative kind of skillset, but we're the ones who get the information. We go get it. And, you know, in the book I talk about a few things, but there's, you know, one of the really cool times out there is that we were able to, we were able to use some assistance, um, from, uh, another organization, you know, who at the time had, uh,

Does it rhyme with the B-by-bay? Or the B-by-bay? The B- B by Bay was bringing it in. There was a, what do they call it? It's not a predator. I'll see you guys at the scene of my two rounds back of the head. 150 pounds of chains. Veteran. Oh, Jesus. MOH recipient. 50 pounds of chains. Veteran. Oh, Jesus. Where's the goddamn...

MOH recipient. There's the headline. Yeah, the MOH Medal of Honor recipient, Brandon Herrera. All of this reads very different in print. I found that out. Oh, fuck. What are they called?

Not a predator, but a reaper. So there was reapers that worked out there at the time. It's just like a predator. It was a smaller than a predator. Without armament. Right. It really was just like... Without armament. Right?

Yes. Was that a real... Wow. I'm sweating my ass off right now, guys. 18 cartel guys killed in... Ooh, it's hot. 18 cartel guys killed in gas leak. Oh, my God. Vince is like, God damn it.

My emotional support shirt isn't working so well anymore. I'm sweating dog. So by chance I knew one of the guys who worked there and we asked if they would do their training further south and they did and they were able to use IR lights to identify potential

bundles and we caught like 28,000 pounds of weed that night. 28,000 pounds of weed that night. 28,000. Yeah. And it was pretty cool. Cause like it's a system that is currently probably still effective if they use it. I think they do now,

but I don't know really, but I just, I've been so far out of it. But, um, you know, when you're able to catch the, the dope,

the person who transported the dope, the driver of the vehicle and the house that it was taking it, you shut down that whole fucking network. And then you also can prosecute now because you have bodies, you have people. And so you have all of it. So that night was probably one of the most successful missions we've done that was really dismantling. You're putting people in prison.

A lot of times when you see the people carrying dope bundles, they're like 80, 90-pound bundles. They're pretty heavy, and they're usually 14, 15-year-old kids because you can't press charges on them. And, dude, they're fucking strong. They're strong, bro. Because you catch them, and then they run off, and you go, God damn, how did that kid carry this motherfucker?

He was so small. Yeah, so I've heard they train. I've heard they actually legit put them on their back and they train in the Mexican side. But usually 14, 15, 16-year-old kids, eventually it got to the point where we were starting to catch them and about their third or fourth time

they were starting to prosecute them as adults because it was like, fuck these guys. They keep doing it. But the cartel was using, you know... Mules. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly, young ones. But they would get it to someone else who would then transport it somewhere else.

And when you find the house that does it, that's like the big hit. And so we were able to catch 28,000 pounds that night. You know, you're talking about like weird equipment and stuff like that. One of the things that really kind of blew my mind, again, because a lot of the stuff that I've had to do in the last few months, a lot of it's on the border. Yeah. You go to the, you know, Eagle Pass, Del Rio.

I told you on Twitter to fucking let's go. I didn't see that. Let's still go. We can still go. I'm still in the race. Well, when you're done with the race, then I can take you. Really? Oh, okay.

That's like kind of a no-go right now. Okay, yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, because then it would look like I'm promoting him, and in my position, I can't promote him. So what I want to do is... He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, Eli's fucking good at that little shit where he'll just like try to fucking poke and prod, I can't promote. So what I want to do is... He's like, no, no, no, no, no. Eli's fucking good at that little shit

where he'll just try to fucking poke and prod, get you in trouble. Do not do that, bro. No, no, no. I got kids, goddammit. But what we might be able to do is go in an unofficial capacity. We're like, we won't film it,

really just to get a better understanding from that. But one of the things I saw, though, along the trips and had explained to me that I think most people would find interesting because they don't fucking like it's weird, right? I would have never known about this is the the amount of tech blimps. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They use those literal giant ass fucking Goodyear blimps in the cameras.

And the cameras are ridiculously fucking awesome. And what happens is those cameras are able to identify targets at night. It's like a flare. But as well as they'll give you the exact grid coordinates. I'm getting fucked up tonight, boys. But yeah, they give you exact grid coordinates. So from the camera, an operator can identify the group, zoom in on the group, give you the numbers, exact location, and boom, we're on them.

We've gone back to like World War II spotting blimps and shit like that. It's funny how things just come full fucking circle yeah there's a lot of cool technology and it continues to evolve uh you know there's things that shit man i'm trying to think i don't want to like i don't know everything they do now because i'm not an agent anymore right and so in that capacity there's stuff that i'm still learning or i'm not even allowed to learn right some of the special operations teams are just some really cool shit. But from when I was in, it's like, there's a lot of, like, I used to have a several Buckeyes assigned to me and a Buckeyes, a camera that gives you grid coordinates and you put them

in different locations. And as soon as it texts you the picture, you're like, Oh, got a body. You'll be home, dude. Boots chilling, everything. You're sitting there eating. You're like, Oh fuck. I got a bundles. I got five bundles in a group.

Boom. I'm on my way. And you suit up and go get them. And that's not uncommon. It's not uncommon for us to have, like, everyone has cameras. We have seismic sensors. We have all that stuff. Like, everyone knows that shit, but, like, all of that combined is where our system is successful

or unsuccessful, how we use those. You know, like the whole argument with the wall. Everyone's like, oh, the wall, the wall. The wall's never going to keep people, from coming in it just slows down the fucking movement especially if vehicles well as i'm saying it's it's a deterrent it's it's a it slows slowing down the mechanism but also funnels traffic to areas that are easier for us to work you know i'm saying so like the idea of it uh people turn it into a political argument it's not a political argument it's genuinely like it it's just another part of the robust like security system that we put together. It helps in areas that are like so fucking rural and you only have a few ages to work, like at least helps slow down the traffic. You know what I'm saying? And that's that's why the wall is important or it still is. There's areas that still need that because there's not enough support on

the border and so the thing i always thought was hilarious is people say like well that well that's such an anti-immigrant message it's like no you know the funny thing about legal immigrants is that they tend to use cars and planes and they don't walk across in the middle of bum fuck nowhere undetectable it's like and you're like yeah i like people try and use create an argument for this for every little angle because it might feel insensitive insensitive or whatnot but like America still allowed I think it was 1.5 million

legal immigrants to come in last year the year before was 2.5 I believe it was so like that's a pretty fucking solid number of people coming into America legally you know now the last year it was still overshadowed by the amount of illegals more illegal immigrants came in than legal So like that's a pretty fucking solid number of people coming into America legally. You know, now the last year was still overshadowed by the amount of illegals. More illegal immigrants came in than legal.

No. Way more dog. Like, like way more. Like the numbers ridiculous. But point being is like some people don't even acknowledge that we have a legal system that's actually working and it's doing its process. Now that legal system is definitely has holes in it. Sometimes it takes people. I don't know if you guys have ever known anyone trying to get their citizenship,

but it could take fucking 15 years, dude. It could take 10 years. Some of them work for the show now. No pun intended. They're just cycling. It's like, oh, what can we use? New Fabian, one of my buddies, he had to deploy, come back in order to get his,

and it still was like a two-year process after deploying for war and they're like are you sure you're like america and it's like man i got shot at bro like 16 you let me wear the patch yeah bro it's it's so i'm actually i have a podcast currently right now and shameless plug but not so much um it's uh Borderland. And what I'm doing is, you know, it's like in a journalism kind of style. I'm interviewing a lot of experts in the crisis and not just like left or right, just everyone who has an opinion on it that is considered to be an expert, whether it be investigative journalism, it would be an immigration lawyer, whether it be whatever it is, whatever capacity. If they if they spend time on the border and they have an expertise down there, I want to hear about

it, you know? And, uh, one of the people we spoke to was an organization, a nonprofit that helps, um, veterans who got fucking deported. Combat veterans go overseas. There's 430 something combat veterans that are deported right now. Currently they join the military. They're deported? Deported dog.

There's like this crazy fucking thing. So here, check this out. What? So they join the... I know, I know. I'll explain it. They join the fucking military with a fucking permanent resident card, a green card with the promise like you're going to become a citizen once you join. Then they get deployed. There's no process

for them to get their citizenship during deployment. They come back. Now imagine if they fucking died, they never would have died an American citizen. What the fuck? So now they come back home. They get out of the military. They still didn't get their shit processed because it's not focused on.

It's not something they really like are adamant about. And so then these motherfuckers get out. They're going to the VA. They're trying to get their services. They're trying to get citizenship. They have PTSD. They get drunk. They get a DUI. They get fucking deported, dog. They get deported for a DUI, a fucking fight at a bar, domestic violence, whatever

the fucking thing is. Now there's a couple of guys who probably murdered a motherfucker and then it's like, can't help it. But I still think that motherfucker should do time in America because I personally think like, fuck it, bring him here still. He still served his country. So it's another part of the system, this tree of branches of a lot of issues in our immigration system that needs to be addressed. And to hear 400-plus fucking veterans are deported right now. See, that's the problem is that you're making a bet. They're making a bet with the American bureaucracy. It's like, I will always bet on the side of America.

I will always bet against the federal government and bureaucrats. Because, my God, any system, if you want to kill something, hand it to the fucking government. Because they'll fucking figure it out. It's like, if you want to figure out how to smoke something, if you want to turn a stoner into an engineer, give him an ounce with nothing to smoke it with. It's like, it's just clear as day. It's like, if you want to turn a stoner into an engineer, give him an ounce with nothing to smoke it with. It's just clear as day.

If you want to fuck something up, if you want to fuck something up properly, hand it to the government. If they managed a funeral home, people would stop fucking dying. Brandon loves the government. There's just so many... I fucking hate them. And you're running for governor. This is why I love you.

You can tell you don't want to be a governor. No, I'm Ron fucking Swanson. I don't want to be here, dude. Like, fuck this shit. What the fuck? Oh, my God. Like, the simple fact that I couldn't even imagine deploying. So when they died, did they just kick their bodies back to Mexico?

I don't know. That's a fucking crazy one to me. Has that happened? Is there a president for that? Guarantee there's... I'm sure there probably has. I just, during the call, it's like, do we play Star Wars? Play the Mexico ones.

Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Like, ah, it's a good funeral song. Roll it out. When I was a drill sergeant, I had three soldiers who got their naturalization papers after graduating basic training. And so I thought that's how it always goes. I didn't see anything until now. I'm like, oh, fuck.

And it's not just like Mexicans. It's not just like South America. We have people from Africa, probably. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Some different countries. The UK, right? People that got deported to the UK. Yeah, exactly. And so like it's kind of a big thing. It's a lot there's a lot of fight going on for this, trying to get more attention to it and trying to pull them back, man. And it's crazy to think about thing. It's a lot. There's a lot of fight going on for this, trying to get more attention to it and trying

to try to pull them back, man. And it's crazy to think about this. They're born here, right? They're brought here, whatever. They don't, they know they're, you know, they have a green card. You know, the process takes a long time. They join the military because they want to pay for college or whatnot. Right.

And become a citizen. And exactly. And so then they get deported to a country they don't even fucking know, bro. Some of them don't even speak Spanish and they get sent back to a fucking, you know what I mean? That would be a motherfucker yeah and they get just dropped off like good luck i'm like holy fuck bro it's a crazy that's just one thing like i said i've been that's how a super villain i know i've been interviewing all these fucking people who i find to be very fascinating and that one right there i was emotional and i was upset like by

the end of it i was like crying because i was like, I'm trying to be professional here, but I'm so fucking mad to hear that we got combat veterans who serve this country with the belief that they were going to get their citizenship, but then they got deported. Yeah, you just made a terrorist. Yeah, you literally made a terrorist. They have combat experience.

There is a story of one going back and actually training the cartel because they got sent back. Oh, 100%. Like, well, what else am I going to do? I got to make some fucking money. I mean, it's kind of the inception of ISIS, if you think about it. A lot of the Republican Guard guys that got disbanded.

So now you've got a bunch of dudes with military experience, no jobs, in a country left in shambles. It's like, well, fuck. And then fighting for a power vacuum. Totally didn't know that. They took my area. Totally didn't fucking do that again. Oh, a couple of years ago. They just rinse repeat.

What? Bro, my mind cannot wrap around. They've got nods and helicopters though. It's going to be rad. There's some really good plane footage. I like watching them to try to fly the black. Didn't they have like three of them?

As soon as we left that shit there, they had like three crash. Yeah. And it's like, you get to watch them go like, Ahmed is fucking flying. He's having good. I don't think you can say Ahmed, bro.

I don't think you can say that. Yeah, that's amazing. You can, yeah. Yeah, we're brown. What we've learned on this show is as long as we're not white, we can make whatever. Cody, though. This side of the table.

Yeah, this side of the table. The low income side. Cody can't say anything. The low credit side. We're good. Old fucking money bags. Old educated. Old Mr. Privilege.

Mr. Monopoly. I need the fucking tough hat in the monocle. Tell me more Mexican stuff. I'll do the Mexican cuck. Let's just see what the Browns have to say. Oh, Browns, you are so silly. That's why I don't talk on the podcast. It's like, entertain me.

Dance. What was the next part? Dance what, dance? Why are my yard workers talking at this table? Fucking A. There's clearly some edging that needs to be done. You're like, oh God, what podcast did I go on? I know what joke just kicked into your mind.

Yeah, I thought it was a sex joke right now. I was like, edging? Jesus. Edging me next to me. Give me the Doom 2 popcorn bucket, dude. Mine should be at the P.O. Box. I'll bring it on the next podcast. Oh God. Live. Live on. Oh, dude. Mine should be at the PO Box. I'll bring it on the next podcast. Live!

This isn't going to be out before the live show, though. No, it won't. Yeah, Cody, start it with the Range Day. Explain the Range Day to Mr. Vincent. It's the biggest Range Day in terms of followers there's ever been. The last one, we had 100 million followers worth

of people there. Cool people like Bill Goldberg, The Undertaker, like all sorts of really neat celebrities. I think I saw it online and I was like, sweet invite, guys. Well, now that you've told me

your Twitter handle, you'll be invited to shoot. I don't know, I just tagged you every time you said border. I said, hi, me. Apparently we can't fucking talk about it.

I'm sorry, I saw you like, emojis like, hi. I didn't see that. I'm sorry. Oh, it's okay. I said, hi. Me. Apparently we can't fucking talk about it. I'm sorry. I'll send you like emojis like, hi. I didn't see that. I'm sorry. Oh, it's okay. I'm not trying to be lost. No, it's okay. I was just like, there's too many brown people here already.

Look, if you just need a security guard, I'll sit there in the chair. I'll sit there looking at your message like, Cody won't let me talk to any more browns. He's too brown. Next. Cody might get jealous. I can have only white friends oh god fucking a yeah i'll try and i'll try that headline oh god yeah yeah brandon can only burp like no dude is unfortunately his campaign we can talk about this. To us, it's hilarious. And it is funny, but dear God, the level of stress. My actual campaign manager.

Well, yeah, the stress is something. My actual campaign manager, I swear, is actually doing the fucking Ben Affleck thing with the cigarette. Like, anytime I do a podcast, you should have seen his face. I'm like, I got another episode of Unsub. I was with him today. I got another episode of Unsub. I've got a film. He's just like, okay.

I mean, what's, I don't know. They do. They will. Okay. So I don't know. I stay out of the whole political side of things anyways, but like, I get it. I get it. That's what it's about.

Unsub is Unsub, but we have a congressman. So it's this weird storm where like where we don't talk about anything. We'll just make our jokes. But they're like, comb through this. And they'll find any six-second segment they can just take completely out of context. It sounds terrible. It's like, dude, fuck you guys. This is why everybody fucking hates journalists.

Yeah, you know, it's funny. I'm actually working on my master's in journalism, and I'm learning a lot about journalism. My present company excluded. I'm a journalist. No, no, no. But my point is, I'm reading like, there's rules to being a journalist, right?

There's an actual foundation of these rules that you need to follow and no one's fucking doing it. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? You're supposed to genuinely try and tell the truth. It's like part of the fucking moral code of a journalist to like tell the truth uh do no harm right do no more harm like and and that's not happening right so people are just telling any kind of story to fucking you know destroy people they will ruin people's fucking lives just to get clicks it's a really crazy time i've seen just the other day like uh that's ruined journalism

border patrol is getting shit on left and right and it it's, it's, it's why I wrote the book. I was kind of frustrated with that. Like, let me explain this career. Cause people call us border control, right? And when you're like, that's not our name, weirdos. And I mean, high level, high end politicians and journalists call us border control. There's no such thing as border control. It doesn't exist. They just call us that. So when a journalist does that, you're like, what the fuck are you doing? That's not even our name.

Also, also a journalist moment. They will absolutely quote you on that. If you were in my position, like there's no such thing as border control. It doesn't exist. Oh God. You've got to start fucking thinking like that.

You're right. You're right. Well, it's crazy because like border patrol has the green uniforms, you know, customs, OF patrol has the green uniforms, you know, customs, OFO has the blue uniforms. So there was this big article about,

about a border patrol agent, uh, admits to allowing, you know, illegals coming across. It's not border patrol. It's a fucking customs dude. It's not even border patrol,

but the whole picture is border patrol. So it's like, that's part of our struggle is that everyone's calling us them or that, or ice like ice isn't us either. That's a whole different fucking organization. Department of Homeland Security bubble. It's like that's part of our struggle is that everyone's calling us them or that or ICE. Like ICE isn't us either. That's a whole different fucking organization. Department of Homeland Security bubble, right? But fuck, dude, you can't blame us for that shit.

That's not fair. They do. Cody knows this. As a Leo, he's hated for everything. Yeah, there's like an article come out and be like, FBI did this. Fuck the cops. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Don't you say that.

It's completely different. It's a strange thing. It's a really strange thing how like our journalists have completely, I don't know, they've kind of turned their back on what they're supposed to be. Is this Brandon saying it's the adsense and it's the pay? It's like, how do I monopolize these clicks? Yeah, that's exactly. and it's the pay. It's like, how do I monopolize these clicks? What sounds better? It's like, oh, police officer, ex-police officer, former police officer

saves kitten, or former police ex-cop hates black people. And you're like, what? And it's still you saving the kitten. How did they get that out of the article? I just know it. Like, police... Yeah, because there's two cats and

you holding the the orange one and they're like you obviously because what journalists will actually do is they'll just be like yeah police officer saves cat by the way police officers are under fire over the george floyd like they'll just put an irrelevant fucking paragraph in there to shit on you it's weird we left this is so if we can talk about leaving let's do it again fuck it dude it's still because you probably haven't heard this we left a veteran speaking panel oh i know what happened i read this go ahead please we let do we had just walked away from a brandon took the time out of his day we flew to vegas we did this for shasho and that none of us got paid for this fucking panel we did it out because it's like hey this is a positive message we want to get

across it's a message we've been doing on the podcast this entire fucking time so it's like boom boom he amazing amazing conversation an opener i was like i was i leaned over to tim i was like yo brain of fucking killed that message. And then Cody crushed his message. Like, everyone covered down. It was awesome. We go and talk about it on the podcast. And the one segment they clip is me talking about a joke. Like, I didn't make. I didn't fucking say the joke.

I was like, we all said this is too far. My fucking, you know, purple heart buddies and everybody was just saying, we're saying like, oh, yeah, you should make this joke. And I was just saying the joke that I didn't make. And then that's what literally somebody paid tens of thousands of dollars to text that to every primary voter in the district. That fucking happened. It's so weird, man.

And I don't listen to anything anymore because I don't believe it and trust any of it. But like, yeah, dude, I saw that and I was like, fuck this dude, bro. Fuck this dude, dog. Brandon Jameson. Follow me on Twitter. Yeah, fuck this dude.

I shared it, dog. Fuck you, bro. And no, that will get clipped. That's how fucking journalists work. I fucking see you. You're going to clip just you saying that? You laughing about him being like, that's how journalists work? And you're like, no, it's all taken out of context

no no no no no no no no no no no no a book that really did change my life and i think i'm like this is an amazing book and i'm pretty sure it was it was here where i read it was uh trust me i'm lying by ryan holiday amazing fucking book talking about how media works and media manipulation things like that and they talk about stuff like this. Yeah. And it really, and like the two things people share nowadays, because in the ad sense, the click culture, the two things people share are things that make you laugh

and things that piss you the fuck off. Yeah. Those are the only things that get clicks, so they make headlines specifically to piss you off. Yeah, so part of my military career when I was in the reserves was a psychological operations NCO. So I went and did reclass. What?

Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, a lot of people don't. And now you have a podcast. Weird. Yeah, well, that's my point, is that as a plant, as someone who understands that, I knew right away when i saw the media starting to use and they won't say psychological operations right they're just using you know emotional influence really is what what you can probably term it now but uh i saw it early on and i started

calling some of my sop dudes i'm like bro am i crazy like no dude like that's what's happening and it's illegal it's illegal to use sop on american you know the happening. And it's illegal. It's illegal to use psyop on the American people. But it's still happening. That's technically habeas corpus, isn't it? Right, right. So that's the problem is that they're not calling it that, but it's still marketing. It's marketing in Japanese. I know it's Japanese.

Please put the definition of habeas corpus below. I love that city in Texas. Great meal. Great meal. Love those tacos. Corpus Christi? It's like Myrtle Beach with Blade Runner. That's the thing is I started seeing the media kind of using certain techniques and, you know, they're drawing on people's emotions.

Really, it's like it's an emotional response. When you can create an emotional response in people, you get their attention. And then it doesn't matter what happens after that. If you're a trusted source, right, if you're considered an expert, which which is our media like our parents only knew the truth from the news right and so they my mom still believes everything she reads because she's an old person who she trusted the news the walter cronkite generation exactly so now like people don't really have the capacity to understand how to dissect it and kind of pick it pick it apart a little bit so you have people that are easily manipulated just on you know uh catchphrases or fucking short, you know, short beats and, you know, soundbites.

And that's why we have such a, you know, divided country and emotionally fucking charged nation. Right. Just like emotional to everything. This conversation of the Border Patrol or the border crisis, I don't believe it should be so emotionally charged. I really believe that the left and the right would see more in the middle if they just understood like like, this is kind of all of us should be worried about this. At the same time, all of us should also support it. And when I say that, it's like, we should be, we should, as America, we should support immigration, legal immigration, a process. Now, we definitely need to fix our legal process, but we should all believe in that because that's what this great nation is kind of built on. But outside of that, we should also believe in being fucking safe.

You know what I mean? And making sure that our people are safe. And so the only functions of government. Right. And so the thing is like that argument. It's supposed to be one of the only functions of government. That beautiful message. So simple. Yeah.

Everyone at the table right now is like, oh, that makes sense. Yeah. And then it gets dissected. Right. And then it gets ripped apart into like, blah. And it's like, no. It's right in the middle. The answer is right in the middle. And we would all agree to it

if we kind of were educated a little bit more on the subject and we weren't just emotionally trying to prove our point. And everybody wants to play. When does fast grocery delivery through Instacart matter most? When your famous grainy mustard potato salad isn't so famous without the grainy mustard. When the barbecue's lit, but there's nothing

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I love this one. This is my favorite term right now. That's like people say like military aged males. I'm like, I'm going to tell you something. I don't want to break your heart, but like it's always been military aged males who come over and work because it's easier for them to, they have the strength and the body types

that can make it across and then work their fucking asses off and then either send the money back or get their family to come here. So people using that now, that's a term that was used in the media just to kind of draw, to draw emotions. Right.

When you say that people are like, Oh fuck, now I'm nervous. Are they going to come here and invade us? I don't know. Military age males. Right. And so it's like,

I don't know. I never thought that's just like for Iraq, 14 and over. Right. Oh, that's what I'm saying. So when you see what we would classify in Iraq is 14 and over military age male.

Right. So when you use that term, most men, right. age male. Right. So when you use that term. So most men. Right. Right. Every male. So when you use that term, people are like, fuck, should I be nervous? Like, I think I'm kind of nervous, but at the same time, like, I'm not fucking fear mongering.

You know, that's what it turned into. I think where it gets weird is when it's people that aren't from Central and Central America and whatnot, where you have like, okay, 50 Chinese military age males. Like, that's a little different. Because, okay, it doesn't take a lot of skill to get on a boat. Yeah, it is weird. We call them exotics is how we, is how, it's not a bad term, guys. You're making me nervous, man. Ferrari over here.

McLaren over here. We call it exotic because it's very odd to see that right on the border. I was just thinking about showing up to the wrong exotic hunt in Texas. That would be awkward as shit. Oh, shit.

Man, this hot fits cost a lot for a reason, I see. He's got the creepy old white guy in a suit like, oh, yes, you also favor the most dangerous game.

Oh, my God. Oh, man. Don't take it, Cody. I'm there waiting on you. So about that exotic Brandon run I played a long game oh I'm nervous

I'm so nervous no but like yeah there's a concern because how much money it costs to transport from that far. Right. And then it's like, who's paying that? Right. So like, I'm not stupid to not think of it, but I don't like the fear mongering of it because it makes a very uneasy person who doesn't really understand that. So then you have people like my mom or my wife who are just like, oh, my God, I'm so nervous. I wouldn't necessarily be that fearful, but at the same time, I'd be

a little uncomfortable with the idea of it and see, you know, that's, that's how I think when people get too emotional, they stop really thinking and then they kind of lose the, the humanity side of like, there is a still group of people are coming here for, for humanitarian reasons or, or, you know, they're seeking asylum because their government is completely destroyed. And sometimes it's because United States might've, you might have dabbled a little bit in their own country. You know what I'm saying? Well, well, well.

Listen here. Well, so there is a real— The left be mine. Never do that. So there's some real—there's both sides of that story. The VIB? Fuck, dude. I'm getting canceled.

I will be long before you, brother. No, it's just like there's so many levels to the story of this, and I think people choose the easiest one for them to digest, and I think we need to really understand it better. There's people that are coming here genuinely to like... To support their families. Bro, there's some people that come here, they're more patriotic than fucking Americans.

They're more patriotic. They get fucking shit on. It costs to spend all their money. They've been fucking extorted. It doesn't matter. They're like, I'm fucking in America, bro. They're like, ho, Nick. And that itself, bro.

Bad example. Yeah, fuck, bro. But like that alone. The only example he can think of is a literal fucking Nazi. But like the example of like these people coming here and genuinely getting fucking abused, getting ridiculed, all the shit. And they still love the idea of what America is and why they came here. It's romantic at times. And it's fucking gorgeous to see people who really still believe in this country because people in our own country don't believe in it sometimes.

One of the things I love about a lot of the Cuban immigrants in Florida is because they've seen the other side of the coin. They've seen communism. They've seen what this stuff does. And they're like, no, dude, a bad day in America beats the shit out of a good day in Cuba. A lot of Venezuelans are coming here seeking asylum because the country right now is is it's kind of yeah it's red it's ran by a president who is considered socialism but also communism right so he kind of controls the whole thing and they call it a you know the regime right and this president is a fucking he kind of controlled it if you talk against me he'll kill you it's the same exact thing and so

they're coming here because of this destabilization of that country. Some say we helped. You know, I've seen both sides of that argument. I don't know if I necessarily agree with it, but there's people coming here like we love America. Like, I'm glad this country saved me. And it's like, fuck, I like that someone actually cares that comes here. I don't like people who come here, don't want to invest back into the nation. But from what I've seen, the people that genuinely want to come to America for the right reasons of the opportunity, like, fuck, they're the most patriot motherfuckers I've ever seen.

And that's fucking dope. You know what I mean? Because I think we need that because you and I know like the people here who are silver spoon in their fucking mouth tend to hate America. And you're like, what the fuck is wrong with you? The irony. It's the weirdest thing. Like they don't have suffering.

You know, they're just they're living the dream and they fucking hate everything about it. The idea of immigrants wanting to give back to the country. It's like you came here for a reason you wanted opportunity i want you to do something with that opportunity you know and like those are those are the people that you want just don't serve the country so we deport your fucking ass fuck bro also maybe like maybe don't kill a bitch when you're done it is crazy like some mexican Mexican immigrants or illegals, they're still some of the hardest working because, as you say,

they cross and they're just sending money back home. And they are busting their asses in order to support their family home or try to get actual citizenship, which can be a lot of hoops to jump through. Interesting, interesting thing. The immigration whole conversation is a seven-layer cake of many different things need to change, need to get through. They're like, woo. Interesting, interesting thing, dude. That's what I'm saying. The immigration whole conversation is a seven-layer cake of many different things need to change,

need to get fixed. But I think that's why I hate how the media does it where they just give it like, this is the answer, it sucks, or this is the answer, it works.

And it's like, there's so much more to this. It's just such a complex fucking topic, dude, because like I said, I've been calling it a tree and there's many branches to that tree

because it's the only way I could explain like, there's levels and levels of shit that we need to figure out in our immigration system that like not one thing like people always say the interview was like so what's the answer i'm like bitch if i knew that motherfucker i'd be fucking millionaire you know like there's no fucking one thing you just asked me what is the meaning of life yeah well shit let me give you the seven a seven word answer you were looking for yeah yeah so it's just starting to feel alarmingly like my new day job.

What was that, Cody, when you were a police officer, how much shit would you get? And trying to be as middle as possible, you're like, what the fuck? Because you had a good rule. When you were a police officer, you're still to this day, you're like, hey, you are to protect and serve, but also it's... Oh, yeah, don't be a fucking asshole yeah like i hated i hated the cops that would come in and they would like they would want a drug

bus so bad they would scrape the weed flakes out of someone's carpet in their car yeah yeah i hate that shit dude also journalist moment i hated the cops quote cody garrett they're just gonna they're just gonna fucking clip the last thing is that we have the whole thing filmed, so it'll protect us in the end. You would fucking think so, wouldn't you? Oh, look at you. You guys have way more followers than me, and it still doesn't work, I guess. No, they don't cut.

Well, these guys are really good at rage. So what it is is a post will happen, and then the attack dog, Cody, you go in and you're like you land homelander and you burn down twitter that's kind of my favorite thing dude just ratioing all of my opponents on twitter and i know twitter's not a real place that's not like that's not the hearts and minds of the voters necessarily but god damn it makes me feel better it's funny dude you get to watch like chaos and see i try and stay off that fucking site, man, because it scares me, dog.

Don't do it. Yeah, I go in there and watch fights is what I do now. Elon Musk totally nailed it. He's like, Twitter is the PVP server of social media, because it fucking is. That is a cage fight. Yeah, it's wild, bro. I'm so not used to that level where I see a difference across the board of my friends and everything, and then I hop on Twitter.

It's like, oh, we'll punch your dick off. And you're like, Oh, I've never seen these people. Well, I'm like very cautious. Yeah. I'm very cautious.

We don't go that far. Not you guys. Usually. I'm very cautious about like what I, what I consume in Twitter scares me, dude. Like I go in there for a quick say, I'm like,

don't do it, bro. Cause all day I'm gonna watch fights and then I want to fight a motherfucker. You know what I mean? Like I try and keep positivity in my fucking life. And X is not the one for a quick say. I'm like, don't do it, bro. Cause all day I'm gonna watch fights and then I'm gonna want to fight a motherfucker. You know what I mean? Like I try and keep positivity in my fucking life and X is not the one for me, dog. We were joking with Muda Har about that. It's like, oh, so what's your Twitter algorithm?

Is it, is it snuff films or porn? Or death. Yeah. Oh dude, there's so much death on there, bro. Yours is death. Okay. Mine's death and fucking fights, dude. You're like, knockout, knockout, death, knockout.

And I watch this, I was like, I don't want to watch this. And I'm like, oh shit, yeah, they're dead. And I'm like shit yeah they're dead and i'm like i should have watched that dude i shouldn't watch that again then i go to tiktok and watch people dance and so i'm like all right we're good i was like i think i can do this with my daughter we can we can dance it out and like no i'm not doing that shit now you are so Brandon won his boxing match we've talked about that you Brandon

so his dad what's your dad's name Carlos Cut Man Carlos so and who did he Cut Man Carlos he's pretty

he's a pretty much a world famous Cut Man in boxing dude it's crazy yeah one of his one of his his current biggest guy is

Keith Thurman he's been with him for many years so you cringed while watching my fight. I texted him. I said, bro, if he wants to train, come up with me. That's a yes. I had six weeks.

I'm going to tell you right now. Nothing to on stage. If you don't do it a long time, it always looks a little awkward. And it's hard to fight. People don't get the mental side of getting into that ring. So many times I've walked into a ring thinking, like,

dear Lord, kill me with a heart attack now or lightning strike or someone stab me or break my leg because, like, I'm super intimidated

until I get there and then it's like, ding, like, fuck it, boom. You know, and then it's like,

survive, you know, but. So you've done fights in front of, like, audience. Yeah,

yeah. Yeah, no, it's a fucking crazy experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to block for the

Border Patrol fucking team as well. I fought army combatives. I was an army combatives dude. Yeah, dude, and it's funny because I hear the crowd every time, like, we, yeah, I used to block for the Border Patrol fucking team as well. I thought army combatives. I was an army combatives, dude Yeah, dude, and it's funny because I hear the crowd every time like we get hit I spent a lot of time sparring it So let's say if you ever I would love to like like train sometime if you're ever going to get back in that ring. Fucking probably we can do it tomorrow. Oh, well, it's crazy.

So Brandon, when that happened and that's why I tip my hat to him, it was. He took a fight. He text me and he's like, got a fight. I was like, oh, dope. It's going to be an amateur

or anything because Brandon is not sparred box a day in his life. Outside of like a couple bar fights. Yeah, zero experience. That's cool. So I was like, oh, dope. You took what kind of fight. Outside of like a couple bar fights. I'm just zero experience. Oh, that's cool. So I was like, oh, dope.

You took, what kind of fight? He's like, pro fight. I was like, huh? You want to know right now, aren't you? Technically. That's what I'm like. I'm going to tell my kids I'm an undefeated boxer. Yeah, fuck yeah.

Undefeated pro boxer. It's like, it's the best kind of true, which is technically true. So he texts me. I text back. I was like, oh, when's the fight? I was like, this has to be like six months out. He's never fought a day in his life he's like six weeks i was like holy shit come over we're sparring he's like yeah why you just beat the fuck out of me in

your kitchen i was like i need you to get around my jab and just work around a jab and he was like thankfully he didn't have an ego he's like what do i do i was like this is why we're sparring every day that's good though up into this fight and then he got it and it started like clicking dude yeah you went in front of that huge crowd like the the emotional side of that is hard dude and you know like people don't realize the anxiety of getting into a ring also knocks the wind out of you right like the anxiety alone will make you tired story about that after the after round one they're like man Herrera looks gas this isn't gonna go the whole time like he's looking real weak right now because the entire

time we were sparring I had a double-sided mouth so my mouth was fucking full like fucking yeah the night before the fight we got that one-sided like a normal boxing mouthpiece I was over breathing so much I was like actually going into a panic attack at the end because I was just over oxygenating my blood Yeah, it's a lot of things dude the night before I haven't fit the one piece. I'm like, this is a normal one He's like, oh What? You can breathe Fucking hotel like hot water by the coffee maker.

Shit like that. Fucking funny. So these are not, they do not speak English and I, they have the hot water and like, Hey, I was like, okay, they want me to use that. Cool. It's not open yet. So I was like, I'll pour it in here and then we'll build it and we'll boil it. And we have like extra water that we need to dump out. And I like have, I'm like, Hey, a Mexican lady.

Como estas? Eh? Por alto? And then they look at me and they're like, ah. I was like, on the floor, that seems like dick. So I'm like, I don't think she meant that. I was like, eh? And she was like, I was like, fluoro? I was like, I don't think she meant that. I was like, eh? And she was like, I was like,

Floro? I was like, that's going to be super disrespectful if I just dump this water. Did you do it? They just mopped it. They mopped everything. I was like,

see? And I was like, he asked like three times to confirm. And I was like, ah, still, I'm going to just put it in this mop. And she's like,

good. Like, I was like, oh, I was, I do. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to look like, I'm going to just put it in this mop. And she's like, good. Like I was like, Oh, I was, I do. Yeah. I was like,

I'm going to look like I'm just like, they just mop the floor. I'm just like, just dump the water. And they're like, what the fuck? It's like your black friend. Like,

no, say the N word. You're like, Oh, I know you're giving me the car, but I really don't want to. Don't make me please. Don't make me.

But he fucking killed it. Did you have to cut weight? Not as much as... So I actually cut a lot of weight because I was at... I thought I was going to have to... So I had actually just bulked up. Not really the cleanest bulk, but I bulked up to just over 200 pounds

before I took the fight. Oh, shit. And so I thought I was going to have to fight at 180. What did you have to fight at? So I ended up swapping opponents at the very last minute, so I ended up having to fight at 190. I ended up being 189 without having to drop water weight.

His opponent, how tall? He was a tall white guy, right? He had 5 inches height advantage and 7 inch reach. Yeah, that's not easy. It was not fun. He's a good dude, was not fun. Yeah. But he's a good dude, man. I liked it.

The day before the fight, I have him working on the pendulum bag. Yeah. To punch offline. He's like, oh, look. And then Brandon's like, I can punch offline. I can punch offline. That won him the fucking fight because he was punching the fight. Oh, so I can fucking do this and throw a fucking jab at the same time.

And I just remember because my coach and fucking Eli the entire time, they're like, look, jabs are cool. You'll never want to fight on a jab. I want to fight on a fucking jab at the same time. And, like, I just remember because my coach and fucking Eli, the entire time, they're like, look, jabs are cool. You'll never want to fight on a jab. You want to fight on a fucking jab. He knocked the dude out on a jab. I was like, God, he's never going to let that down. A guy who doesn't fight often on a jab. Jabs are fucking solid, bro.

A good jab can save you. Especially if you're going into it on a solid two. Yeah, there's a lot of guys who are using jabs now. Like, old school boxing, do a jab was used for a jab. And then now jabs, there's people that are fucking people up with just solid jabs. MMA uses solid jabs all the time now, man. You'll see motherfuckers get knocked out with jabs. That's cool, man.

That's fun to watch. I enjoy watching. That's all I do is watch fighting every fucking weekend. I'm a fucking nerd. Even now, I look back on that fight, I'm like, brr. Oh, dude. It's like, not your best work, bud. But you won it.

It was a battle. It's a good win. Not your best work, bud. But you won it. That was a battle. And that's the thing. You stepped up to a pro fight five weeks out and did it. I imagine that fear in that room. That's like crazy. And with an audience. And I'd never been hit with, A, with the intent to fucking kill me. That's different because normally it's friends sparring, right? That to start with.

But on top of that, never been hit with 10 ounce gloves in the face oh yeah yeah so like the first time i got an honest to god clock with 10 ounce gloves a was televised but b i'm like fuck like you see like that moment of tv static and you're like i can maybe take three more of those like that was not great you know the fear of getting in those ring is always like if i get knocked out that's gonna be really embarrassing and that's always the idea you're like if i get knocked out, that's going to be really embarrassing. And that's always the idea. You're like, if I get knocked out, that's going to be embarrassing. I don't think I've ever told this part. So before, like when they're setting you up,

they have to have somebody from the commission watch you wrap up, make sure you're not going to do anything shady or whatever. You can't use the restroom for like an hour, hour and a half before the fight. And I'm just like, bro, there's a non-zero percent chance I get knocked out and I shit myself on TV. Just branding it. That's funny. It just leaks everywhere on the white ring. I would genuinely rather be killed.

And if your friends get up and walk out of there. Eli does the same. Because I'm just hype man He shit himself I'm still hype man Is that what we're doing fuck it Yeah I support it I support my man Cody's drinking

There have been several MMA fighters who have shit themselves In the cage Some of those smaller venues Well I brought up that because The Anthony Joshua Versus In the cage. Some of those smaller venues. Well, I brought up that because the Anthony Joshua versus Nagano. Bro, Nagano.

Did you watch that one yet, Cody? This is one of the recent ones. You know Nagano is the undefeated monster. Johnny Blackman. That just smashed. And for Fury, he put up a fight against Fury.

Now, what they're saying is Fury probably went into that not training as hard, thinking this. Anthony Joshua did not go into that fight thinking it was going to be a cakewalk. Yeah, he didn't take it lightly. And Anthony Joshua was a big motherfucker. He was a monster. He was a world champ. He's considered one of the best boxers out there right now. In the heavyweight division, he's one of the better boxers. He's kind of considered to be soft, as like people have been able to break him down in the

ring but not often and recently you know i'm waiting for the waiting for him and tyson to fight that's gonna be a really good one when it comes around but yeah so what he did with tyson was like dude is he that good bro because fuck he almost fucking he knocked him down he knocked down i was like we watched it live i was tripped the fuck out on that. I was like, damn, that's pretty fucking crazy. When in Vegas? Fury, we watched Fury and Nagano in Vegas. No, no, we watched it at your house.

Did we? Yeah. Hold on. Oh, no, we watched it, another fight in Vegas. Never mind, yeah, we watched that one in my house. We watched the Strickland fight in Vegas. Yeah, Strickland fight in Vegas. Yeah, that one we watched at my house.

And that was, I mean, we are like, afterwards, we're like, yo, Fury lost that one we watched at my house and that was and i mean we are like afterwards we're like yo i fury lost that one like point well it's really weird to see yeah i thought so too a lot of people thought the the the card should have went towards nanganu but because i mean to to knock him down was pro it's for his first boxing match to do that against that dude who when he's at his when he's his best he's fucking incredible he's like one of the best heavyweights to watch he built like a weird gross shrek dude he's the epitome of like dad bod you don't want to fuck with yeah well dude he's one of the best

moving heavyweights i've ever fucking seen i don't know how he moves the whole fucking time and not get tired so it's like active yeah it's impressive as fuck but like yeah that nanganu fight was like weird and so then i thought he might beat fucking joshua because i've seen joshua fucking quit i've seen him get just pummeled to the point. That was fucking dope against Homeboy. What was his name? Ortiz? What is his name? This dude came in last second and beat

he's a fat Mexican dude. Shorter. I remember that fight. I don't know if he's fat anymore though. He's lost a lot of weight. He lost a shit ton. He came in as the undercard by a lot. Then he knocked Joshua the fuck out. And everyone was like. It was dope as fuck.

What the fuck just happened? Yeah. It was the first Mexican heavyweight. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I forgot about it. First Mexican heavyweight ever. That's kind of surprising.

Like Mexicans are like notorious for being good boxers. But not heavyweights. There's not a lot of big Mexicans. There's not a lot of height. Yeah. And he's not tall. He's actually a small. He's a short heavyweight. But he's got a fucking of big Mexicans. There's not a lot of height. Yeah. And he's not tall. He's actually a short heavyweight, but he's got a fucking torque on his punch like a motherfucker dog.

His torque is crazy. And that's how he fucking won, dude. Yeah, so Naganu got his ass whooped. Yeah, and then so Naganu went to fight Joshua. Have you seen the knockout, Cody? No, I haven't seen it bro second round most brutal like just dude his legs he buckles knees and he just falls backwards yeah i think there was two knockdowns and then the knockout yep and the knockout was like leg crooked out like it was fucking

through just right here uh hard right across his draw and nano dropped. You could hear the dial tone. Sometimes I don't know if those fights are real because they're now gimmicky fights sometimes. Is this a gimmick or not? Nagano's a dope fighter, yes, but why is he fighting against the champs right now? I don't know. I always think it's probably a gimmick,

but then when you see him get knocked out cold, you're like, nobody wants that. No one's going to allow that to happen i don't think so it was a fucking it's a serious knockout because everyone thought okay nagano's gonna control this fight it's gonna be and i sent brandon then i was like my homeboy got dropped by round two and it was two knockdowns and then a cold clock knockout not waking up he was just they just called off the fight instantly and then he came up on stage they did the after show and it was just like i was like oh that was fucking brutal it just well he just

collapsed it caught it caught me off guard enough that it hurt the chances of a rematch yeah there's no rematch on no there's not gonna be it wasn't even close you're gonna have that and then be done i'm just a selfie real quick to my wife. Get it. It's proof of life. Proof that you're here. Yep. Yeah.

Proof of life is what I call them. I'm alive, babe. Cody, do you want to do you want to close this out? Closing. All right. Bye, everyone.

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