Unsubscribe Podcast - 157 - Obi Wan Nairobi, SAS Operator & The Accident - Christian Craighead | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 157

Episode Date: May 6, 2024

Obi Wan Nairobi himself, Christian Craighead is here to talk military experiences, joining the SAS & the aftermath of the Nairobi terror attack. WATCH THE UNSUB LIVE SHOW SPECIAL NOW ON PEPPERBOX! htt...ps://www.pepperbox.tv/ WATCH THE AFTERSHOW ON PATREON! https://www.patreon.com/UnsubscribePodcast All Pepperbox Memberships begin with a 14-Day Free Trail and are $7.99/month after that. No Ads. No Censorship. No BS. FREE TO USE MEDIA: (please tag us when you post!) https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uppmQHMGf8uI2OuOatp932e3S2VGy0PE ------------------------------ THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS! MYBOOKIE Signup to claim a 50% sign up bonus up to $1000 for new customers. Use code UNSUB to start playing with house money, today. TUSHY Stop wiping until you bleed. Join the 2 million butts who have already made the switch to TUSHY! For a limited time get 10% off your entire order when you use code UNSUB at checkout. That’s 10% off your order at https://hellotushy.com with promo code UNSUB. MANSCAPED Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with code UNSUB at https://manscaped.com ------------------------------ FOLLOW CHRISTIAN https://www.instagram.com/christian_craighead https://twitter.com/one_man_in https://store.bookbaby.com/book/the-wrong-wolf https://theministryofdefence.com BUY US A DRINK! https://cash.app/$unsubscribepodcast https://venmo.com/u/unsubscribepodcast https://paypal.me/UnsubscribePodcast ------------------------------ UNSUB MERCH: https://www.bunkerbranding.com/pages/unsubscribe-podcast COMMUNITY SUBREDDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/UNSUBSCRIBEpodcast/ CHECK OUT: https://outofregz.com/ CODE: UNSUB ------------------------------ WHERE TO LISTEN Spotify https://spoti.fi/2Ye8YOU Apple Podcasts https://apple.co/3cbqY4k Amazon https://amzn.to/2YbzQia Google Play https://bit.ly/2YcWmaD Stitcher https://bit.ly/3cbnY8o MORE LINKS! https://linktr.ee/UnsubscribePodCast ------------------------------ FOLLOW THE HOSTS: Eli_Doubletap https://www.instagram.com/eli_doubletap/ https://www.twitch.tv/Eli_Doubletap https://x.com/Eli_Doubletap https://www.youtube.com/c/EliDoubletap Brandon Herrera https://www.youtube.com/@BrandonHerrera https://x.com/TheAKGuy https://www.instagram.com/realbrandonherrera Donut Operator https://www.youtube.com/@DonutOperator https://x.com/DonutOperator https://www.instagram.com/donutoperator The Fat Electrician https://www.youtube.com/@the_fat_electrician https://thefatelectrician.com/ https://www.instagram.com/the_fat_electrician https://www.tiktok.com/@the_fat_electrician ------------------------------ Edited by GVAN https://www.twitch.tv/gvan11b https://www.instagram.com/gvan11b/ https://twitter.com/GVAN_CC unsubscribe pod podcast episode ep unsub funny comedy military army comedian texas podcasts #podcast #comedy #funnypodcast #military history Chapters: 0:00 HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT! 2:16 Welcome To Unsub 10:33 Meet Our Guest 11:11 Christian Is A Texan Now 13:34 AD 14:26 Mike Tyson 18:13 The New Roadhouse Movie 20:58 Congressman Herrera 22:32 How Christian Joined The Military 37:58 AD 39:06 Christian’s Military Experiences & Joining The SAS 56:09 Christian’s Bible 59:25 Christian’s Driving 1:12:46 The Well Dressed Hitchhiker 1:18:01 The Nairobi Terrorist Attack 1:31:55 Christian’s Hobbies 1:38:35 AD 1:39:40 Responses To The Nairobi Incident 1:47:40 Christian’s Children’s Book Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:46 This is your 50 pence? It's Branson Coyne. The rapper? Yeah. 50 pence? So it's becoming this short. God damn it, Eli. It's becoming this, that's what I say,
Starting point is 00:02:54 I call them 50 pence. He takes credit for that joke, not me. It's the, and I've been tagging him on all the stuff now because it's, he'll do this thing like, my ex, like my baby mama has been sleeping with p diddy or whatever i didn't realize she was a small sex slave or something like that and then it's like all this thing and there'll be that hashtag branson conya it'll be like all this blah blah blah completely irrelevant hashtag branson
Starting point is 00:03:18 when they say there's no such thing as bad press um we found out that was a lie oh i have found out that is definitely a lie bad press is not fun yeah yeah companies have loaned from that a wheel company specifically thank you that way we pop the top are you gonna be like going in and out of a bad english accent this entire time yeah okay yeah what do you mean bad you mean perfect yeah i thought you were talking to me are you just going to be going in and out of this thing it's really annoying we know you're from arkansas i'm trying i was trying to do it on that on that actually that skydiving trip and then matt was saying about you work on an American accent.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I remember I was driving again, we should be rolling with this. I was driving by myself in a car in Arizona, trying to do American accents. I was just like, I want to hear that. I was laughing going, there's probably someone watching me with their hands
Starting point is 00:04:22 on their head going, please stop. Just don't do this. I always think of that whenever i'm doing shit like that or i'm singing like car karaoke i'm like my fbi agent hates me right now that's what yeah that's that's the whole thing is i wouldn't have seen i have sold that as well if anyone whether it be a foreign intelligence agency or now my own is like listening to what i'm saying on the're like, God, oh no, he's putting Celine Dion again. Celine Dion's going on again. You're just really into it though. But can you, there's a question to any feds who listen would be,
Starting point is 00:04:52 if someone's singing in your car, can you isolate them singing? Or do you, or if you want to tell secrets in the car, just turn up your music really loud and talk to each other. If that's out there in the comment section, let us know. Or you could,
Starting point is 00:05:02 you could intentionally fuck with them. And two minutes into the song, you can just pause it and go, bomb, dirty bomb, napalm. And then restart it. So they have to listen through the entire thing. They have to continue, like, oh, fuck. Oh, you ready to start this, bitch? Holy shit. When's the last time we did a podcast?
Starting point is 00:05:20 Dude, it has been. Dude, I feel good, because I'm like, it's been so long. We had a— All right, you want to—we doing it? Doing the thing? like, it's been so long. We have refreshed. Are we doing it? Doing the thing? Okay, we hold it up here. Three, two, one. And then you take a sip.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Man, that's just, oh, the lemonade vodka is good too. What? Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe podcast. I am joined today by Eli double fap mr christian craghead and brandon herrera and her boy bonet bopper baiter bonet bopper taters here too god we haven't done a podcast in a freaking while man what's up bros yeah we we had so many just just sitting there that we did for you know we, we had range day and we were building up all these podcasts because all of our guests were coming into town.
Starting point is 00:06:09 We've been backlogged a lot. Yeah, we were just backlogged. Now we get to relax and what a fucking episode to come in on. Dude, I'm so fucking stoked. I'm like, been jonesing for this. We've been trying to do this episode for like a year, I think. We're just like, oh, we need to have Christian on at some point. Christian, very soon. It's been a long time coming and i've always said i
Starting point is 00:06:27 was going to do it and here i am but dude i can't wait waiting for the right moments and then he was talking in his weird accent we're still trying to nail where it's from but uh dude we're like stop talking please please save this for the podcast he's like oh i still want to hear that american accent oh yeah we can start with that here. You've done it before for me. Let me hear it. No. Okay, come on, dude. We were talking about Guy Ritchie movies earlier.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I can't do an American accent. I'm working on it. The only thing I can do is... I can't do a British accent, but I try. So try. There's so much pressure. Maybe I'll slip it in later on. That's probably a better way of doing it.
Starting point is 00:07:03 You'll have to see. I had a British exchange student in high school that I went to school with that the only thing he could say in his very forced American accent was, he talked very high, like he was a very high vocal range individual, but he would just go really deep,
Starting point is 00:07:18 I would like a cheeseburger. That was the only thing he knew how to say. Let's face it, if it's a British guy coming on exchange to, was it in America? Yeah. I don't know if I know your intention on that
Starting point is 00:07:35 sentence. But if it's a British guy doing an exchange into America, he must have come from money, so he probably wouldn't have had a regional accent like mine. And for the record, I'm trying to put on my best speaking voice here. No doubt. Because if I went into my full regional accent,
Starting point is 00:07:53 no one would be able to understand me. So a regional accent, where are you from? I'm from northeast England. Do you watch Game of Thrones? I do. Game of Thrones. King of the North. I'm from Winterfell, basically.
Starting point is 00:08:04 You're from Winterfell? That's awesome. Because I wasn't Game of Thrones. King of the North. I'm from Winterfell, basically. Yeah, okay. You're from Winterfell? That's awesome. Because I wasn't the whole thing. Like, they asked Sean Bean, like, hey, can you do, like, a southern accent? And he goes, no. So they're like, all right, well, you're all speaking like northerners now. Yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 00:08:18 They're all like the, if I went into my, slipped into the regional Geordie, it's called accent is super fast and and they're like and they're going like peaks and bursts it's like burst transmissions it's like oh it's really fast can we hear it and then I'll do something else can you do can you do just like a brief like hey welcome to unsubscribe we're gonna have a blast today okay how would you say that hey everyone right I'm just on original i'm on this podcast today with these canny dudes they've got eli brandon an ak guy over here cody i'm gonna be i'm gonna be really good we're gonna do a lot of stuff and uh keep up stay tuned and we're gonna
Starting point is 00:08:57 have a re-laugh all right you might you might need subtitles for that. Done. And I completely cuffed that. So that wasn't, as you can tell, it wasn't pre-made Geordie. Well, I appreciate the fact that you put in a lot of effort to speak real English with us here today. Yeah. Real American. Real American. Thanks for coming out of Texas.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Thank you very much, guys. And can I have some ranch with this? Can I get some ranch? Yeah, yeah. Man, we sound like dickheads. That's how we sound to you? Yes, ma'am. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Yes, ma'am. Howdy, ma'am. I love how he just thinks Americans have manners. I know. They just say yes, ma'am all the time. Okay, we're doing this shot
Starting point is 00:09:44 which is this because yes ma'am all the time okay we're doing the shot which is this because him it's what the fuck is this it's the p diddy liquor what is this no it's not p diddy it's the other guy it's it's 50 pence oh i see it's yeah 50 pence wait does he own this brand yes dude 50 pence shout out to 50 pence oh oh so Shout out to 50 pence. Oh. Oh, so it's not the P. Diddler? No, no. No, it's the 50 pence. I have not had cognac one time in my life, so we're going to just tappy taps.
Starting point is 00:10:18 That's one of the things. Yep, that's a thing. That's one of the drinks of all time ever. That's not awful. I don't think I'd like it again. That is definitely aover that is a lot of sugar i can taste the sugar into that one yeah thanks christian christian fuck man see that's that's your drink of choice no it's just something it's just something i was interested in trying yeah it's by 50 50 cents it's his i believe it's his cognac and uh yeah i just wanted to try it due to inflation he's now 80 cents i hate that brandon's training to be a dad that's great that's great well that's why
Starting point is 00:10:54 i put my british spin on in call them 50 pence but it's like but that's even better now i like that inflation thing dude okay i'm trying to be a dad currently mr christian uh for all the beautiful individuals out there that don't know he is obi-wan narobi um among james bond what else you you've done this man has lived a life and it is truly an honor to have you sitting at the table like and now that we're done jerking you off i can't wait for this all of us have been so fucking stoked to have you on the conversation um yeah you're just a fascinating individual it's like fucking ah ah we've literally a whole year we're like okay it's gonna happen one day it's gonna happen you're a busy dude and you just came stateside uh how long ago did you move here in january so
Starting point is 00:11:43 that's where we're now nearly maybe and then we are now And then you're doing the entire process I will do eventually But I'm a resident of Texas Texas driver's license, Texas resident You need to just fly to Mexico And then come across the border illegally That way you get a few grand and a cell phone That was a plan B
Starting point is 00:12:02 That was the If b but yeah that was that was that was it that was the like everything's if everything fails try that rock i was like christian come on loud if you're coming here from somalia but i'm told again i don't know if you can put this out but it's it is there it is actually a different thing so depending on your it is actually a different thing. So depending on your passport is all the different rules. And I'm not speaking with authority here, so I'm not sure, but I did hear, for example, it's very, very hard
Starting point is 00:12:34 to get into this country if you come from Cuba. Yes. Because they probably don't want you to give people a certain message or vote a certain way. So if you've got a Cuban passport, it's very hard to get into the country. That's something I've heard as well, yeah, on the borders. So it's the same as if you've got a British passport
Starting point is 00:12:55 or a Canadian passport or whatever. It's different rules for different passports. You're only allowed to come into the country from Cuba in the 80s if you were a criminal. You're the wrong kind of brown. I've done seen Scarface. I know how this works. That ain't no Mexican accent.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Our fucking resident Nazi here, Bryn Herrera. Oh, yeah. Apparently. Neo-Nazi Brandon Herrera. Known neo-Nazi. It's like, known to who? When I think Klan members, I think of mexican brandon herrera i had somebody at one of our political rallies there was a local precinct chair
Starting point is 00:13:31 like shook my hand he's like oh if it isn't the brown face of white supremacy like this is the attack so if you don't know brandon's been when someone says that to you, do you go? Thanks? Well, thank you that time I kind of assumed he was fucking Hanging into it. I don't know what I'm gonna say. I'm like, right Yeah, you can't you can't do the nervous like oh, well, I actually haven't got at one point. Oh, hey, I haven't got a brown face I'm quite Aryan Before we get into this I need to address something serious.
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Starting point is 00:15:07 And he responded with, first first off I'm no liar and you're like whoa bro why did you oh god damn I was trying to get out I thought you were referring to my favorite Tyson quote which is quote I'm going to you until you love me it's final final. I broke my back. It's fine. You're like, I wouldn't fuck. Are you getting him on here? He would be good.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Oh dude. Oh, that would be amazing. I would love that. That's a good, that's it. Oh, we should do it.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Like, cause when's the fight? When's the Logan Paul fight? Cause he might be on a media tour. We might be able to make that happen. That would be an amazing fucking weird interview because i've looked out for that dude saying he's a fucking monster of a human if you especially watch his like that dude hit yeah goddamn freight train you just kill people and
Starting point is 00:15:54 then him in his prime he's like and like and this is a like a compliment to him he's an animal it's like that's when you know when someone's got it in them and it's a difference between there's someone who can be an athlete and a fighter. And I was talking to a really good friend of mine who's an ex-UFC fighter, Brendan O'Reilly, and we're talking about the difference between there's athletes and there's fighters who've just got that animal instinct
Starting point is 00:16:18 who are just like, it's on. And when it's on, that's it. There's only one thing that's going to happen. And he's like the OG of, not the OG of that, but he's the one that brought it to my attention. Because when he was in his initial prime, I was like 11, 12 years old. And I was looking going, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Dude, his stare downs. If you want terror, his stare downs. So technically you weren't allowed to wear black shorts unless you were the champion. He did not give a shit. He was like, I'm going to be the champion. I'm wearing out black shorts every time. And he would always wear black shorts out to his entire time.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I like the whole, I think it's all part of it. And this is the beauty. When someone does something naturally, it works better. And the fact that you have all these fighters coming out with all these silk robes and doing all the dancing and stuff and he comes out with a towel with a little black ankle boots like focused yeah and that's that to me is like a good image it was like and and this is the like i'm repeating myself but it wasn't just it wasn't image because it was actually natural and that's what makes it even
Starting point is 00:17:21 more terrifying to your opponent is that he's not doing it for the vision. He's doing it because it's him. And that's why it works so well. And that's why if someone else tried to do it, it maybe wouldn't work. And it sounds so cliche, but you can see it in somebody's eyes. Like I remember the one time the guy, the dude at the boxing gym who fucked up my ribs before my fight is this just really big black dude who like just like right before we got in the ring together. It was his first time sparring at that gym. He had it in his fucking eyes when he was looking at me. Cause we're just sparring.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And he was looking at me like I just his wife. And it was genuinely scary. Like, and so like he, he went fucking, he went to town, but you could tell that guy, like he,
Starting point is 00:18:02 however he grew up, he was a fucking fighter. And that is, that is the difference. It was was not a sport to him he wanted to fucking kill me and then tyson when he would stare if you want some of the best stare downs tyson stare downs are absolutely terrifying because everyone else would move and he'd just be like this that's it you need to come on here and then you need to do like a stare up we'll have to try and do a stare at who and then he gives a judge who's the best stare out of you three i'd come too fast and then this is why we can't have nice things this is why i said no eye contact just like just like in prison no eye no eye contact look away look away from it
Starting point is 00:18:37 doesn't count if it's dude some of it doesn't count if it's in prison no it doesn't count if you don't make oh well i see yeah okay good policy. We were talking about this earlier. The fucking the new Roadhouse movie. The one line they didn't use that was the best line ever is, I used to fuck guys like you in prison. If
Starting point is 00:18:57 Conor McGregor would have used that line, it's like, yes, that's the most intimidating thing ever. And they didn't use it. I wish Conor McGregor would have yes that's the most intimidating thing ever and they didn't use it like i wish conor mcgregor would have used that in the new road my biggest complaint is that nobody ripped anyone's throat out right that was the i thought it was leading up to that i haven't seen it and it's a spoiler did he did conor mcgregor gets his throat ripped out no he's killed even did they kill him well i haven't watched it. We're not going to spoil that part, but
Starting point is 00:19:25 nobody gets their throat ripped out and they don't say the f*** guys like you in prison line. Those were the two big like what the f*** else is Roadhouse? Swayze's dead. You can't get him. But those are the only two things you can do. That's a combat patch I want to f***. You can walk out, but if you walked out with a patch
Starting point is 00:19:42 that said I used to f*** dudes like you in prison I'm like, uh-oh. He's way more scary now. It's like that Shane Gillis bit where it's Vikings versus gay Vikings. Like, Vikings are just, you're not too worried. Gay Vikings, on the other hand, when they bring up that rainbow flag, you're like, uh-oh. They're going to take our gold and our women. Gay Vikings.
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Starting point is 00:20:44 I'm holding back at all I'm not holding back I'm holding back at all you're like oh that's my bad so this is amazing Christian hasn't watched a single episode because he wanted this a raw experience
Starting point is 00:20:53 coming on you're better off I was going to and then I thought no let's go into it like raw I don't want to watch like trying
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Starting point is 00:21:19 tinder profile he's going to come back on two weeks from now he's like hey by the way if anybody's interested i made a load of money hey Hey, what's up, dawgs? They're crying with the money. Just patting your eyes. It's the zombie land with the $100 bills. Woody Harrelson. This sucks so bad.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I hadn't cried like that since Titanic. That's the gif I send people on Twitter when they get so mad at me and they're like you're a piece of shit you're a nazi it's like oh this is horrible i'm so sad that this one individual doesn't like me like fuck okay so we all of us especially brandon have went through basic training shut up we've done military experience you have no idea how many real quick fuck because this is just a direct fuck you i was just in i believe it was tarrell county
Starting point is 00:22:12 uh on a campaign stop recently and i had to answer a question from an unsubscribe viewer clearly who didn't know time and place and we're in a group of like 30, 40 people that are there for like, actually, this is a real campaign stop. And they just hear, we hear that you're an honorary veteran. Would you like to comment on that? And so I had to explain the joke of my Purple Heart friend, who started this joke out of spite for me because he hates me, I guess, that I've been running away from ever since
Starting point is 00:22:45 that he is just taken fuck you i didn't know how much root i did not expect it taking that much of a root and read it and then everyone else like yes yes weaponized okay brandon's a medal of honor it has gotten like people have actually gotten to legitimate arguments on social media like oh tony's record is this. Well, Brandon, I don't know if you know this, but Purple Heart winner, Medal of Honor recipient. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Those are jokes. Those are jokes.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Those are jokes with you in rugby, right? Jesus Christ. He was sideways. And this is how it gets written. And then somebody is going to ask me about it being totally serious. And somebody who has no idea what this podcast is. And then you just kristen just writes him in the book he's like i wasn't even part of it i don't have a passport
Starting point is 00:23:30 so you went through though you joined at 16 right yeah yeah which is fuck how i didn't even know that was a thing so that when you wrote that um you're talking about it i didn't even know you could join at 16 yeah Yeah, you still can. And I've talked about this a lot, but you can join the British military when you're 16, but you cannot deploy on combat operations until you're 18. So you're just doing training. You do training and things.
Starting point is 00:23:55 But again, it's kind of something I am proud of, is I jumped out of a C-130 aircraft before I slept with a woman. So this is like, you know, like stand-up virgin soldiers and it's like that thing. And I was like, so I was like, yeah, jumping out of C-130s and being like a ranger, if you like. Yeah, so your first jump on a C-130 was when you were 29?
Starting point is 00:24:21 It was a few weeks ago. No, no no no see what happens yeah that was instant karma I tried to throw even the slightest bit of shade and I immediately embarrassed myself well time to fucking f*** myself
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Starting point is 00:24:49 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:24:49 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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Starting point is 00:24:50 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, which truly thank you for this brother this is this is fucking amazing and you've ruined it you're making me feel like such a piece of shit right now holy fuck my only one of them i go to sell it at like the road show in 50 years so like it would have been worth 50 million dollars but there seems to be booze spilled on it like that means it was worth more that was technically. That was president. Yeah, president. He built it so it was worth more, right? What is that? Future former disgraced congressman. So what was, so you were jumping out of planes at? At what age? 17.
Starting point is 00:25:37 That's fucking. What's the drinking age over there? 18. So you were doing this gnarly training and you couldn't even drink yeah that's it i mean and it was like for me it was a life lifelong ambition wanted to do it and i was just but we talk about focus i was just wanting to do that and to me it wasn't that's all i wanted to do so what was the train up leading like basic training going through it for us is like your 12 is it 12 nine weeks and then four weeks
Starting point is 00:26:05 i think for infantry so in the um for me we had this thing and i was the last platoon as in this format was called junior para and junior para was six six months of being a junior soldier in the parachute regiment which is the equivalent of the ranger regiment over here and it was just six weeks six weeks sorry six months of brutal training, and it was brutal. And I look back at it, and it's like, do you know what? That's kind of badass. And the instructors were really, really good. But it's a different world.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Like, if you tried to do that stuff now, then people would be like, yeah, that's brutality. It's 16 and 17. That's every day. And it's like, and one of the things, I feel in some ways feel sorry for some of the instructors, because I have to think it was about week four when we started what we call tabbing, which is rocking.
Starting point is 00:26:53 We'd be doing a, um, a rock March every Saturday morning. Real quick. Any, any little, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:59 phrase or, or any, any word that you guys have like a, like a, um, what'd you call that term could be interpreted as rocking no what was the term so we call it as tabbing tab yeah like literally any other british
Starting point is 00:27:16 slang i in my mind is is immediately yeah we're shagging yeah We're tabbing. Yeah, I tabbed her later. Oh, that girl down at the pub. Yeah, no, I tagged her last week. Right in the boot. I know British. So you did rucking, which is, if you don't know, it's ruck marching. You put on a 35 to 60 pound bag and you walk at a very fast pace. You're my height so you probably hated rucking. No, I loved it. You fucking weirdo.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Because that's why I wanted to, you know, for me it was what sets the tough guys apart from the normal guys. It's like that's what we do. I want to do that on a Saturday morning. Go rucking, do that and then throughout the week it was just brutal physical conditioning. Then that finished after six months Saturday morning go rocking do that and then throughout the week it was just brutal physical
Starting point is 00:28:05 conditioning then that finished after six months and then it went into normal training not normal training but training for the parachute regiment they have like a test called p company which has changed a number of times over the last few years but it used to be really hard and um um but that was like kind of like hell week oh okay thing and it's like it's a hard test and there's a really good if you ever go on youtube and a cutting-edge documentary called p company look at that was like the p company kind of what i did and then um yeah and then you go into the did you parachute training which is just the round parachutes and then you go into your parachute battalions.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And for me, it was like a great honor to serve in the Parachute Regiment. It was 10 years after the Falklands War, and the Parachute Regiment played a key role in the Falklands. Can you break in more on the Falkland War? It was just like a war that happened in 1982. The Argentinians invaded the small island in the South Atlantic,
Starting point is 00:29:07 and then a task force was sent to get them out of there. And so it was like conventional warfare for a few weeks. It was one of the few instances, I'm going to go into a little bit of weapon nerd history, it's one of the few instances where the same service rifle was used on both sides of a war. So you had the FAL on both sides of a war right so you had a foul and it's kind of foul on both sides i might be mistaken i i mean i would say this in like a five-eye sort of view like but it's kind of like the the last like force on force war where you
Starting point is 00:29:37 had aircraft fighting against each other where you have like a naval force fighting against each other it wasn't just going in like a counterterrorism war. Yeah. I know people with all the, again, Gulf war veterans might be getting hot around the collar. That was a three day event of us. But it was kind of like a, like a kind of force on life to my knowledge is like a force on force.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Like the other one might've been maybe the Balkans. I don't know. Like the, the Yugoslav civil war. Well, not, not really for us. Oh,
Starting point is 00:30:06 for the UK. I mean, I mean, that's what I mean from like a like a uk us you know like yeah okay when it's when it's like back to the old whether you've got the carrier groups and submarines and you know what people think war is about that was like the last in my again look i've got a lot of combat experience so i kind of i think i'm allowed to say all this but um it was, to me, it was the last, like, I don't want to say real war, because, like I say, I've done lots of fighting and lots of killing and stuff like that. But, like I say, force on force,
Starting point is 00:30:34 so you've got aircraft against each other, submarines in the water, naval carrier groups, soldiers against soldier. Like, what people think war is about. That was, like, a clear cut. You know the bad guys. It's black and white. I think the term is, like, people think war is yeah like that was like a clear cut you know the bad guys like it's black and white i think the term is like near pure warfare like where you have yeah and again for all the history there's might be history buffs and people like cursing me now or
Starting point is 00:30:55 whatever but that to me but it was a and it was true grit it was the the the prime minister of the uk at the time margaret thatcher was like, yeah, we're not going to just... It's thousands of miles away, but we don't care. This is British sovereign territory. We're going to get you out of there and send down a task force. Lots of different units, regiments, lots of people died, especially in the naval side when anti-ship missiles striking ships and killing hundreds of people but um in one strike but it
Starting point is 00:31:26 was a but it really raised national pride at that time and people i i hope they still are very proud of the falklands war i know i am and it was one of the big motivators for me to um outside of media and things but it was the thing that 10 years later i was joining the parachute regiment which was the the the regiment to join in the British military. And what year did you join? 1992. Okay. God, you are old.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Yeah, you're the... Did you just fucking call him old? I did. Damn, you are old. I always forget because you look fucking good for your goddamn age, bro. That was before I was born, for context. Yeah, you joined the military before Brandon was. That's incredible.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I was over here doing the math on the Falklands War. I'm like, wait a minute. How old are you? I would have thought you were like 40. Yeah, on the dot. You look like... I'm 48.
Starting point is 00:32:22 You don't look 48. You look 40, like he was saying, on the dot. Yeah, you fuck. Oh, look at me. I'm good looking. I'm well-spoken. I have a British accent. Go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Can I tell you a story about this motherfucker right here? About me? No, no, no. So Heather and I go up to, we're up at Staccato, you know, like I was like two months ago, something like that. We're hanging out at Staccato and, uh, and we're, we're like having a good time. And you're like, Cody, good to see you. What's up, bro.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Good to see you. And then you turn to Heather and you're like, my darling, it's good to see you. I was like, Christian, save some pussy for the rest of us, man. It's normal. Chill out. Hello, darling. Fuck, man. All the girls, like even Sav, you're like, Sav, we're going to go eat at my house afterwards.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Sav's like so excited. She's like, oh. And I'm like, god damn it. And you're respectful. And it's hilarious, too, because Sav will show some cleavage at times. God bless her soul. And when he was talking to her, he's like, hey, how you doing? Like he just put his hand here.
Starting point is 00:33:32 It's fucking hilarious and respectful at the same time. Like, ah. Is that not a joke, really? No, it's a joke. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a joke. I'm like, ah. I wouldn't put it past you.
Starting point is 00:33:43 It's like the kind of thing to go like that. He did it still. Oh, okay. He was doing it as a joke. I'm like, I wouldn't put it past you. It's the kind of thing to go like that. He did it still. Oh, okay. That's why I remember. Yeah, he was doing it as a joke. I didn't put my hand on her. I was like, come on. I was like, come on.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Oh, God. Hey. I was like, man, so respectful. So respectful. Nice to meet you. Hi. Yeah, hi. Hi, wow.
Starting point is 00:34:01 What's up, dude? Hey, homie. How are you? So you joined eight years, would you say eight years or a decade later from the wars? God, I love the whiplash of this podcast. From the, yeah, the Falklands War was 1982. 1992, I joined the parachute regiment.
Starting point is 00:34:21 And then what was, how many miles? When you were like rut marching, how far were you doing? It would build up, but the standard towards the end was the 10 miler standard which was i hope it still stands is um what you carrying a ruck of 35 pounds not and then a weapon and it's 10 miles in one hour 50 holy shit you are cooking holy shit so. So EIB, for anyone, you have to do a 12-mile ruck march under three hours, if I remember right. So the parachute regimen, 10-mile standard, which we eventually, so we didn't start off in week four, but towards the end,
Starting point is 00:35:00 that was what we were building up to, is the 10-mile on P Company is 35 pounds in one hour, 50, three hours for the EIB. So expert infantryman's badge, you have to do it under three hours with the exact same loadout doing fucking just two miles left in an hour. 50 is ridiculous. Like you are stepping the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You're not just walking. And P company, like I said, it's changed a lot, but after the Falklands war they tweaked it again to make because that's what happened they landed the task force landed on one side of the island and then marched to the other side and then fought a battle at the end of it and then and two power did two battles so they did a battle at the start and then towards the
Starting point is 00:35:37 end and then another and then another one at the other side so the the tweaked p company i believe o'r ddwylo. Felly, mae'r cwmni P-tweaked, dwi'n credu, ar ôl y Ffalklands. Ond ie, mae'n test anodd ac roedd hynny'n dal i fod yn... Yn ôl, mae'n anodd eu bod yn newid y standard a'r test, ond mae'r gynnwyr cyffredinol yma yn parhau i fod yn yr un mewn lle, a mynd yn gyflym i'r cyfan ar y llaw i and then move as fast as I can on foot to another point to then fight a battle after it. So that's the concept. And for those people who think they shouldn't do it or don't know why they do it, that is why they do it.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And long may it stay that way. That is absolutely right. I don't know if you guys, like, Brandon, if you want my, and you're literally, like, my height's one inch taller, so you're, like, 5'10"? Yeah. Yeah height's one inch taller, so you're like 5'10"? Yeah. Yeah. Stepping out.
Starting point is 00:36:27 You're 5'9"? Yeah. I am. Are you? You're what, 4'10"? Now, according to the internet. Yeah, according to the internet. I'm just showing him little Brandon images.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I'm like, wait a minute. Hold on. I'm 5'10". What? I'm like, what? Are you really 5'9"? Yeah. I'm just kidding. Yeah,? I'm like, what? Are you really 5'9"? Yeah. No, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Yeah, because I know I've never seen that. Maybe I'm just thinking like the internet's meme of you that you're like that much shorter. It's the same thing. Again, it's been brought up and like Evan Haver
Starting point is 00:36:54 brought this up and everyone brings it up. It's like, and I say, I'm 5'10". And everyone's like, pulls that face and goes, really? I'm like,
Starting point is 00:36:59 I fucking know how tall I am. It's like, I know how tall I am. I didn't lie about it. I didn't say, yeah. And I said, when I stand up straight, we're back against the wall, measured, it's 5'10". 69 inches.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I've been that height since I was 16 years old. 69 inches? Nice. And then people pull their face off. Really? Why is it when someone says about the height or whatever, they go, really? I'm like, what do you think I'm lying?
Starting point is 00:37:26 Why would I lie? Why would I say that to you? I mean, get it if you're putting on your profiles or whatever, like six foot four or whatever. Getting that tandy. Bro, Brandon woke up and chose violence against you today. I know. Well, I would understand.
Starting point is 00:37:39 The veteran thing, I would always choose violence against me. I would wake up and be like, I have so much fucking ammo in reserve right now i'm just quite pleased that you said like oh 510 i was like oh thanks i'd rather go you're about five eight i'm like really fuck you i was like first of all fuck everyone i'm 511 i'm the king of the manlets you're that one inch too short you fucking bitches Tinder sucks for me
Starting point is 00:38:11 but you're 6'2 when you stand on your wallets exactly I have never heard that I love it so much that's another bonus about living in Texas I wear cowboy boots a lot all the time and they've got big heels so they do look like 5'10 I like that. And that's another bonus about living in Texas. It's like I wear cowboy boots a lot all the time.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And they've got big heels. So actually, they do look like 5'10". Yours are really big because they're like platformers. I'm just... You look like a go-go dancer. He's just walking with these giant boots. I'm like, huh, didn't expect that. Like President Macron of France with his little booster feet. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:38:43 That's still one of my favorite videos of President Trump, like, just walking out in front of all the world leaders. I am the one, the one, your time. Pushing them out of the way. Oh, yeah, this is mad. America's here. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, that is good, isn't it? It's just like...
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Starting point is 00:39:54 Stop wiping until you bleed and join the 2 million butts who've already switched to Tushy. For a limited time, our listeners get 10% off your entire order when you use code unsub at checkout. That's promo code unsub. What was your least favorite part of training up before getting into, like from basic training to the actual like regiment? What was the least part? Like inspections and things, you know, like locker inspections and making, you know, I make my bed every day.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Like not, and I don't want to drop it like some, like, make your bed, Navy SEAL kind of thing. You have a lot of animosity against SEALs said like mcmakey bed that i just made i do make my bed every day i thought you had animosity toward jordan peterson the cleaner room so what i did i i do that i admit but um but you're like making the bed blocks I think that's not allowed anymore and polishing everything and making everything neat and tidy
Starting point is 00:40:51 I get why you do it but I just didn't like it when was the first time you ever deployed, what year? 1993 Jesus fuck Northern Ireland really? yes I don't you look so good? Northern Ireland really? yes
Starting point is 00:41:05 okay now I really fucking care we're not gonna I don't think we should talk about Northern Ireland not because there's anything it's just because I'm gonna do it I would do it in injustice and I don't know it's a very complex
Starting point is 00:41:15 kind of insurgency but yeah so I went to Northern Ireland I was 18 years old I was 17 when I flew out and then 18 when I went onto the ground and then I was there
Starting point is 00:41:24 two years then and left and there's not it's not really much to talk about it was the main conflict that was going on for the british at the time and um but it's it's a very super complex situation there's a lot of this situation i mean war is a complex thing it used to be just like i want that land this This is it. Now it's way more deep. Especially that since it was technically a domestic deployment. It's a little convoluted, to say the least. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:56 There's a reason why Dave and Sho are not here with us today. So training up until going over, how long were you in before you got selected to try out for the SAS? Or did you step in and be like, hey, I'm doing that? In my mind, even before I joined the Army, I wanted to do it. But it was such a bold thing to think. I didn't say it out loud. And it was one stage at a time.
Starting point is 00:42:25 And then I was going to try it when I was young, really young, 21 and then I got persuaded to go into the Pathfinder platoon which is like a force recon type unit lots of land nav going into path yeah it's a very very tough selection again but did that and then I tried uh I tried to get on three times to get into the SAS. And I failed one injury and then another situation. And then eventually I got in and it was just... When was that? In 2006. Okay. So, okay, I want to rewind now to the Pathfinder
Starting point is 00:42:58 because what is the training going into that? Like that, how long is one of those road march? Because that's also wild 14 years later that's and it's dedication and that and that but that's kind of the average i don't know what it is now but the the they say that they are like when they do the math it's like average age is a lot younger than what it is but it's not the average because you might get one person who joins when they're young and like say 21 22 that brings the averages down but the real average of people joining the,
Starting point is 00:43:25 like a T1 unit is around about 30, 31 years old. That's what it used to be. So they're done typically 12 year service. Again, it might be younger now and things, but from what I always used to see and then being an instructor would be, you'd get like two groups, you'd get guys who are about 24,
Starting point is 00:43:44 which was the first time i did it was when it's 24 you get the 24 year old group and then you get like 30 something group and and typically the guys who are in the 30 something group were the ones who filled it when they were 24 and that that's that's kind of like the bracket age bracket uh going back to your question about pathfinders it was just a fast and furious selection course of six weeks, but very, very tough. Very tough indeed. Intense, intense. Yeah, and that was just, again, getting into that unit was really good.
Starting point is 00:44:13 When I was in the unit longer than average, and it was a Catch-22, I was in this military unit where I kind of didn't want to be in it, but it was better than being in a standard unit because it was a special unit but the first year in that unit was probably one of the best years of my life was it was so good and again i've spoke about this before and then all of a sudden they decided to get a sergeant major and then things got worse and then it was just like yeah and and it's not it's not knocking
Starting point is 00:44:40 those sergeant majors it was what was like this little tribe of guys of like guys who were like super soldiers super fit and then and keen and having a laugh and doing good stuff then you get a sergeant major and it becomes not real again and i didn't like it very much after that but um and then i had a and then i did my first combat leadership when i was in pathfinders and that was really good and a great honor for me and a lot of the guys who um the team that had three four delta um was a six-man team and most of the guy i think four of the six all end up in the ses no shit and then uh maybe five i can't remember if like but they all ended up in the end it was a good team and a good group but yeah yeah, so it was like best of times, worst of times.
Starting point is 00:45:28 So when you say it was like the best day or the best year of your life, were you just like, holy shit, this is fucked up? Oh, I don't know. I think one of the best things ever for me, and it was probably killing someone for the first time, and I don't say this as a psychopath or sociopath or whatever path is you got to think about it like this when we when we're kids we're playing soldiers 100
Starting point is 00:45:53 and here's a funny thing because again i'm just saying again cancel me don't cancel me is did you play soldiers i'm using the pc term now yeah you're running around shooting things we used to yeah you you find that right, stick. I don't know what you call it. You mean cowboys and Indians? Yeah, so there's cowboys and Indians. We used to call it like Japs in English. And now people are like, what?
Starting point is 00:46:15 Japs in English, really? No shit. Wow. Because we're still living in, then in the 1970s, we're not that far away from World War II. Do you got the scotch tape? That's wild.
Starting point is 00:46:24 In my mind, because we don't even call it that here in the US. were not that far away from World War II. Do you got the scotch tape? That's wild. In my mind, because we don't even call it that here in the US. So there's different, so there's three, there was three terms. You could play cowboys and Indians.
Starting point is 00:46:32 You could play armies. We could play Japs and English. But the most common, if you were running around with guns, was Japs and English. Because I'm just thinking
Starting point is 00:46:38 like Japs and English is like we, the European theater was way more prominent for the UK. Well, not necessarily because we still, we had the Empire the european theater was way more prominent for the uk well not necessarily because we still we had the we had the empire then so there was still the and and and i and i and i think especially if again i i don't know this for certain but regional areas of the uk even even when you go to working man's clubs some of the drinks are a bit obscure i can't
Starting point is 00:47:02 remember what the drink is but in burnley in northern england they have a this really like obscure drink because the local battalion in world war ii were based in north africa so they picked up a taste for this like liqueur so all the so became like a tradition people would have that with a beer and a chaser of whatever it is so so if you have like a local regiment who spent most like if you think of 80 of the town may have of the fighting age mills went to burma or or or in that theater of combat when you come back that's why they're calling it japs in english or or whatever and armies and okay so not like specific like world war ii pacific theater but like other other ventures no no world war ii specific yeah so so it's all like like because it's all if you think about when i'm young like
Starting point is 00:47:52 you could think the council estate street where i lived it's like the street of say 100 houses not even that but you could probably say that more than 50 percent fought in the war so so the at that age because my grandma and everyone else is still there and they're still kicking it and they all did their bit so that would definitely perfuse into the rest of the kids and everything so it's like saying stuff and whether it be even in slang like uh for example in in uk and maybe it's died out a bit now, probably been making a resurgence because of immigration, but the term of... Why are you laughing, Eli?
Starting point is 00:48:31 It's a term for women, like a slang term for a woman is a bint, especially in Northern England, saying, oh, a couple of bints. Well, the Arabic for woman or girl is bint. So because that's... And to shoof, they say, oh, give us a shufti at that. That's like a slang term but the the verb in arabic to look is to shoof or something like that so it's but the so it's from all this activity in world war ii they come back with with with slangs funny that's come back around recently and they asked us and but but even so the the parachute regiment is something i i uh
Starting point is 00:49:04 still to this day, and I don't think they teach it anymore. Because I remember when I was in the SAS, this was probably 2012, asking guys who just got into the SAS from the parachute regiment, do you know what the regimental battle cry is? Do you know what battle cry is? Oh, yeah, I do. You have to do a battle cry for those who, when you're charging the enemy,
Starting point is 00:49:22 scream something like... Dude, show me your war. Yeah, so it's a battle cry, but the Parachute Regiment has a regimental battle cry. And it's kind of a twisted joke, but it's, And you used to see old guys from World War II, if you saw you wearing a Parachute Regiment shirt,
Starting point is 00:49:41 they'd be like, And you'd know that that guy was like a World War II vet or a veteran of the parachute regiment where'd it come from because when they were fighting the North African campaign all the
Starting point is 00:49:51 like the locals would always go Wohol Mohammed to them it's like a greeting so they'd go Wohol Mohammed so they took it
Starting point is 00:49:57 as a sick joke so when they were bayoneting Germans they'd be going Wohol Mohammed as they were bayoneting them and stuff it's fucking hardcore
Starting point is 00:50:04 how do you do it it's like a black joke it's like black humour because that was going, Waho Mohammed is obeying them and stuff. Fucking hardcore. How are you doing? It's almost like a black joke. It's like black humor because that was the normal greeting that everyone, the locals and everyone say, but it became, I got taught that
Starting point is 00:50:13 is there's a regimental battle cry and it's Waho Mohammed. Waho Mohammed. And, but that's what they turn it into a joke, like saying, being it and people will, storming machine gun bunkers,
Starting point is 00:50:21 shouting, Waho Mohammed. Did you have family that fought in the North African campaign? No. But that's where the, so another interesting fact about the parachute regiment is their nickname is the Red Devils. And it's not because they wear maroon berets.
Starting point is 00:50:35 It's because in North Africa, the sand's red, similar as in Kenya and other places. It's got red sand. So when they were charged, after fighting, they'd be covered in red dust. And the Germans said the the paratroopers were coming at them like red devils yeah oh that's fucking gang dude that's when you know you're making an effect is when you're called like red devils because the way you look coming into battle because it's not being the name of the marine corps the american marine corps the devil dogs like it's it's a similar situation
Starting point is 00:51:03 i can love that shit so much so yeah and um i don't know what the devil dogs. It's a similar situation. I fucking love that shit so much. I don't know what the original, we've come on a long journey, but what was the question? I don't even fucking know. I just got a history lesson and everyone all the audience was like Well I hope they keep up. These motherfuckers are autistic and shit so they're just like
Starting point is 00:51:19 just happy. What I hope as well is people in the UK are watching this and people in the parachute regiment because i think some of this hasn't been taught anymore maybe it has been and and people will comment about i'm sure but this is what we used to get taught and it's something i was fiercely proud of it was like regimental and regimental history both sas and uh the parachute regiment i didn't get taught when i was in the well the parachute regiment. I didn't get taught when I was in the, well, the parachute regiment stuff I got taught in the military, but the SAS stuff I knew
Starting point is 00:51:47 before I joined. And it's just, it's quite sad, you know, when any sort of history dies away, whether it be positive or negative, because we learn from it and we evolve and we, and a lot of it is a good example, again, is like, well, nobody talked about it. Nobody talked about it, but it's such a good example of again, is like, well, nobody talked about it. And nobody talked about it,
Starting point is 00:52:06 but it's such a good example of like black humor is we're going to have this regimental battle cry, which will survive longer than most of the people who fought in the campaign did. Well, it does now, because I'm bringing it back to life, is Waho Muhammad. And it's having this sick joke
Starting point is 00:52:19 of when you're banging it in someone, going like a cheery thing, going, hey, how is it doing? Like, Waho Muhammad. If you need just an idea for you, if you did a shirt that just said that yeah that's a fucking dope ass shirt i guarantee you because that was a nice thing because the chinese are already fucking on it right now because of this right here they'll be linking it in the fucking twitter bio oh oh hello muhammad Oh, ha-wo-muh-hamid. Ha-wo-muh-hamid.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Sorry, sorry. That's going to be the unsubstitutious. I do accents all the time. Wa-ho-muh-hamid. Wa-ho-muh-hamid. The unsubstitutious. Oo-woo-muh-hamid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Wa-ho. But there's a thing, because I remember a friend of mine, he was doing some extra work when he was on leave in the parachute regiment, and he had a vest on. A lot of guys in the parachute regiment have, have like the parachute regiment cap badge tattooed on them i i don't have mine covered and then um and then uh and he's doing some work on a building site and some old guy was like whoa muhammad and it's like because he saw the tattoo he saw the thing and it's like oh yeah it's dude it's one of those experiences. Ah, man, I love just the lore, like history in general and learning about it.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I know also I was talking to Fat Electric Nick today. Hi, Nick. He actually wants to do just a video on you, how he does his history breakdowns. He's like, ask him if I can do a history segment on him. Yeah, because I had no idea that your lore, so to speak, with the British military went back that long. I would suggest that, yes. I mean, there's lots of, like, traditions and like, customs that
Starting point is 00:53:52 go back hundreds and hundreds of years, older than this country. We don't hold that 1770s bit against you, by the way. No, I don't. Several year period was a little awkward but aside from that we've all been very good allies like this is where this is why i show my true colors and then that probably that's the right term for it is the so i remember someone
Starting point is 00:54:14 commented on social media saying hey i'm glad i think it was a black rifle post or something and someone said we're glad you weren't around in 1776 yeah and i said well i'm trying to become an american so i was probably a turncoat anyway so it doesn't matter my favorite post i think ever on social media was yours uh you know jr it was july 4th and you said happy treason day yeah all right i mean jerry joe jericho um he's a good friend of mine he he gave me that t-shirt and i was like i thought i'd wear it. But I love the, again, hopefully people could see the joke in it.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I'm there and I've got a cup of coffee and I'm holding like an assault rifle going, happy trees and things. I hope people got the joke of it. And yeah, but that's what I lead into is like some of the stuff
Starting point is 00:55:03 like my logos and some of the products I'm doing my favourite one or one of my favourite designs is I call it the Blackbeard Boarding Party and it's the skull of the Blackbeard pirate but it's got a hatchet and a flintlock crossed and I say it's like
Starting point is 00:55:19 because that's what it's got like 1770s vibe to it of like being going against the authority with flintlocks and hatchets. Yeah. I love it. So kind of like that right there. Almost like this.
Starting point is 00:55:33 When did you get this design from? Oh, this is yours. Yeah, so this design is, so I was wearing a patch with a black beard flag, which is kind of like this. And then we just tweaked this. So this is the design of me running into the hotel which is kind of like this. And then we just tweaked this. So this is the design of me running into the hotel,
Starting point is 00:55:50 an area of the hotel, this iconic photograph. And then we tweaked it to make it look like it was up. Because it's up and it's got like a chalice in one hand. And then we just sort of twisted it, my good friend Travis. I had the idea with it. And then can't i'm not talented with artwork and stuff like that and then i get people friends of my old friends of mine supportive to like say hey i've got this idea can you do this tweak that and then he he uses his expertise to then tweak it and fine-tune it now before we go into uh the story a lot of people have heard and i've actually tried to not hear as as i i'm going in as
Starting point is 00:56:26 new as possible going into the big one but you have like the ministry of defense you you actually carry around something particular for that mod right bring it out i'm glad it's over there oh hold on never mind don't bring it watch this this magic trick. Connor. Oh, magic. Connor. Big shout out to King Trap. I'm sorry. Were we not supposed to say your first name again? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Okay. So I've got my company. I already fucked that up. I've got a company called the Ministry of Defense, and it's this company that's evolving. Right now we're selling some merch, which is like official branded Chris Craighead MOD T capau gwleidyddol a phosib eraill. Y peth arall rydyn ni'n ei wneud yw'r rhain.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Rydym yn eu alw ar Armour Upgrades, sy'n esfaenol o'r Eglwys, y Bibliad, ac rydyn ni'n cynllunio rhai o'r rhain. Yn gyntaf, dyma un o'r logoion fyny. Mae'n croes, sy'n dweud, We're just launching some of these. Again, this is one of my logos. It's a cross that says send me in it. And the whole idea is all my life was, well, not all my life, from 1999,
Starting point is 00:57:34 I carried a Bible in my equipment and that same Bible all the way through till I retired. So it's in a lot of combat operations. And the line I said, it was in there. And did I pull out and and the line i said it was in it was in there and did i pull out and read it i don't think i even after i i did read it initially because there's still tabs and i read a lesson in church from that bible because i had the big grand bible in church and i said to the padre at the time because i don't want to use that bible i want to use the one i carried on missions so i had this little tiny little Bible and reading out of that. And it's like this whole thing about, you know, like, did I need it?
Starting point is 00:58:08 Like on my belt, I carry, I used to carry a pistol, fighting knife or a hatchet, hand grenade, spare magazines. Did I need them every day? No. But like that Bible, it was there every, it was there if I did need it. So that's why. And the other thing as well as people say our bibles or whatever and be real and well it doesn't really matter about your
Starting point is 00:58:29 religious sort of viewpoint because one thing i did say and there's lots of stories in this history of guys used to scoff at me for being like a practicing christian or whatever and then we're getting to ready for example to invade Iraq and then the bar real leaves load of crosses out on the table next morning they're all gone and like alright so all these people who were like of religion starts or Wars and yada yada yada and everything sometimes you need every every every bit help you can get and that's what they reach into it so so I like to think that people will buy even if they're not even if they're not going,
Starting point is 00:59:06 you don't have to go to church or you don't have to be like a practicing Christian. It's like, like I say, that's why I call it the armor upgrade. It's there if you need it. And if you don't need it, then that's good in some ways. And real talk, even if it's not like something that you wholeheartedly believe in,
Starting point is 00:59:21 there's a lot of wisdom in there. Yeah, and I call it the handrail. A little bit of history. Yeah. One would say, yeah. I call it the handrail because that's what it is. It's like when you're walking in the darkness or you have that handrail and you can,
Starting point is 00:59:39 that's what it's there for. You can use it 100% and live by it 100 and like oh or it's just there if you need it and when things sometimes when things are when the when the journey's steeper or the journey's darker the handrail's there because if you don't hold it there's a chance that you get drawn into the darkness and the other thing as well from the handrail is there are things out there that's going to drag you into that darkness. So that's why I call it the handrail.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Use it as you need it, but it's there if you do need it. And I think it really ties in with the main story because you have some amazing segments. I was talking to Shane and you earlier about it. I'm like, it's so dope. But before that, because we can tie this in beautifully, you're driving.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Oh, geez. My boy. So it's one of my favorites. I'm just going to warn everyone. Our things about to get ugly. If you're a Texan watching standby, I'm coming for you all.
Starting point is 01:00:44 And just, that feels like a very valid threat ow i feel threatened that's not a letter so come on i'll open it to you comment on my driving so we were in arizona doing skydiving jumping out of planes i I was never done this. You've done it a whole bunch. How many jumps have you done? Like, I haven't done many since then, but over 1,000 jumps. Oh, God. So you're looking at Eli, you're like. I'm okay. We got King Trout right now.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Just like, what the fuck? You're looking at Eli. You're like, oh, we're not getting shot when we land? All right. We, we. I'm deathly fucking terrified because I haven't jumped out of shit. And then I go in the tube. I look like a bag of shit flapping around.
Starting point is 01:01:31 I'm like, how did I control themselves in the air? And then like fucking Christian's in there. He's like, okay. Like doing flips, rotating. You're like, fuck you, you British fuck. What the fuck? But driving, we had this like 30 minute drive 20 minute drive yeah and now well we'll hear his story then i'll tell them that's all the truth
Starting point is 01:01:50 so and uh you don't have many big vehicles like trucks like americans do correct like over over a seat like Like, yeah, I mean, everything, like, everything is smaller over there. Everything's bigger in Texas, bro. But it doesn't matter. Anyway, go on. Carry on. I'm already feeling myself getting really defensive. So, fucking homeboys driving for us.
Starting point is 01:02:20 We just drive back and forth. And it's an open desert road. We're, like, going over there. And I look over. I'm i'm like bro fucking relax dog we're just in the middle of nowhere he's like death knuckling the steering wheel i was like relax he's like i am relaxed i'm like doesn't look like so so for the record death knuckling means having two hands on the steering wheel you've got white knuckles in your veins. In West Texas, it is like an act of God for me to have one hand on the steering wheel. And that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:02:53 People are driving. There's a friend of mine. I'm going to drop his name. He's called Tony. And he used to drive. And he sat like that. And he'd be talking to you with one hand on the wheel, drinking a cup of tea or something and going,
Starting point is 01:03:06 yeah, and like, eyes on the road, pleaseony and he's like well and he's like sat like like not even legs forward like with one like probably edge of his foot on the accelerator going like that yeah but i drive all the road bumps in between i drive like coincidentally i drive with two hands i normally just it's a thing and people joking going oh you just look like you've passed your test because i drive with two hands on the wheel and i like i take them off to do maneuvers and most of the time i've got two hands on the wheel and that's just a thing and i love how you're already like oh stop telling me maybe maybe hey it might be a thing because one thing i do know is when people take photographs when i'm not looking i've got my like fist clenched which is probably there's some psychology
Starting point is 01:03:43 behind that about going but i'm like looking at when they off guard i'm like then sorry on guard i'm like and then off guard you'll see and i'm like look at my hands are like white knuckles yeah it looks like he's gonna punch the windshield with both hands holding the steering wheel yeah but then it was it yeah okay continue please so that i we call out on that we just start making fun of josh and him about it and going to speed them i was like dog it's like you can go 10 over here like fucking go just go a little bit faster this and then watching him park the big ass vehicle under uh just a tight parking spot there's the rear camera he has us making fun of him driving so naturally he just hates
Starting point is 01:04:23 everything right now and we're like back up it's good just do it just do it so with that i i'll own up though like parking then i've only just started to get used to using cameras i'd still be using the mirrors and stuff and then there but i'm better and i remember um someone who was very dear to me once i was parking the car and then uh and i and there was next to a wall and i said oh looks like the wall's moving and she was like what the fuck what the wall's moving and i was like no i said it looks like the wall's moving i'm not claiming the wall is moving i'm like but that was that and uh but yeah so are you finished because you had me park the fucking vehicle. I didn't have you. You fucking liar. You got out.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Remember? Yes, you did. You got out. You got out of the vehicle. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. You got out. Listen, for the second time in the podcast history, there's about to be a fucking fight
Starting point is 01:05:16 breaking out. No, there's not going to be a fight. I'm just going to give someone a bin. That's the intro. I know. I swear to God I swear you're like you're fucking parking I fucking put this to you now I put this to you
Starting point is 01:05:34 that like au contraire au contraire it's like it's that it's that no one has ever parked a vehicle for me
Starting point is 01:05:43 I think I got out and I joked and said someone parked a vehicle for me I think I got out and I joked and said someone parked the vehicle for me but I got back in that vehicle and I parked that
Starting point is 01:05:50 just so for the record and I know I'm right and you're wrong that is such a like a prison like hold my pocket story
Starting point is 01:05:59 park this vehicle for me yeah yeah or I thought more in prison of like hold my coffee are you finished now yes i'm okay so here's what really happened
Starting point is 01:06:16 no because you forgot about the stop signs because at that time i hadn't been coming to i've been coming to america is like I'm training and stuff, but I hadn't really, that was like the first steps of my journey into becoming a resident here. So again, some of the driving thing was unusual to me. So the stop signs were like, it was either I wouldn't stop because I was like,
Starting point is 01:06:37 fuck, I've just gone through a stop sign or I'd say it about 30 yards away and then slam the brakes on and like everyone would come to the front. So that added a factor to the driving. So your was very expensive oh no it isn't even now it's super expensive like it is really expensive because i just took my texas driver's test a few weeks ago well it's a few months ago now and um which i felt really sort of an injustice because they really didn't like you driving in the left side no no it's fine because i was because legally you can drive i can legally i can't know the british
Starting point is 01:07:10 license you can drive in texas right but it doesn't transfer over so if you want to get a texas driver's license you have to do the test and i've been driving and and i have to say this and i've driven all over the world and the worst worst drivers in the world, I have to say, without fear of contradiction, are in Texas. Yeah. The worst in the world, more than anywhere. Have you seen my new shirt? And this is the thing.
Starting point is 01:07:33 So when I went to do the test, I was like, kind of not, I honestly thought, again, and it's credit to the people, I won't say the company because they are really good, is I went there and I thought, oh, you've been driving here 30 years okay nod nod wink wink because that's what i heard would might happen is they'll say yeah you can drive we know you can just park drive around the car park and park up so i turn up in a porsche just put on there and then they said do you want to use your car to uh to drive was that yeah and i think it's going to be that and then she says can you help me with these ballads and i'm like all right we're going to do parallel parking so we put them into the trunk or the boot and then we uh and then we do that and then she goes right you're ready and then
Starting point is 01:08:15 she gives us the rules this is what we're going to do if you go one mile and over one mile and over over the speed limit it's an instant fail all this jazz and i'm like wow this is this is really happening i'm doing my driving test so i pull away we do the driving test do the power and parking i kind of nearly ace it i dropped one point for something and then uh but um but yeah i did but that's the thing i was in my mind i was thinking if i fail this i will be outraged because seeing the worst drivers in the world are out there
Starting point is 01:08:46 and you failed me I didn't so this gives and I would not I would not be saying this I would not be bad mouthing Texans right now had I not done my driving test
Starting point is 01:08:53 but now I've done it it qualifies me to say that is the most British thing I've ever heard holy like holy moly it's like
Starting point is 01:09:00 it's bad and I know a lot of Texans you got a license to bad mouth this license. I'm like, I did something really British the other day, like really British. And it was some guy, some douchebag. And I was like, did something.
Starting point is 01:09:14 And I was just, you know, when you're, I'm trying to get in that lane, you know, I've got to, and he just like sped up. Oh yeah. And it really got to me. So I accelerated in front of him. Then I put the window down that window and I put my hand out and made like a
Starting point is 01:09:28 wanker sign that would have so confused me as an American I was like you jerking off a ghost it was like my natural jerking off ghosts out here my natural, you fucking wanker and I like stopped and I like laughed and then I got to, i was driving to staccato
Starting point is 01:09:46 yo darling i was on my way home and harry potter just didn't tell me to jerk off and there's a good friend of mine lily who works she's dear friend of mine lily who works at staccato and she she was born in uk and i said to her i came in and i don't know what came over me i said this is the most british thing ever on the road so i told her what i did and she was like laughing going she wouldn't have a she said they did that whoever was like laughing going she wouldn't have a clue she said whoever you did that to didn't have a clue what you were trying to tell them so that's fine
Starting point is 01:10:11 but the point is yeah and when I mentioned this to Texans and like I live in Texas I love this state and as I said it before it's one of the best things about living in Texas is you know I'm I'm just in this country I haven't been here long but I do feel superior to everyone else in the country
Starting point is 01:10:31 that's going at the beginning and then um but no it's good it's great being in Texas I love this state and I want to say That's going at the beginning. Another thing at the beginning. But no, it's great being in Texas. I love this state. And I say this story about driving, but as much as I love this state, it's one of the things about the driving. I'm like, and then other Texans will say,
Starting point is 01:10:58 well, it's because of all the transplants. You mean Mexicans? I don't know. It could be anyone. Californians, probably. And then I do live near Austin, so, you know. Touche. A bunch of failed actors from LA.
Starting point is 01:11:11 And then, so there's that. But there's those, but this is where, this is the ones who get me, is like the Doolies. Oh, you, dang it. I was hoping you got, what were you saying yesterday? The Blies or something. Yeah, you were like, what are they called? you're what were you saying yesterday after the police or something yeah you were like what are they called the doubly's the doolies the dooly drivers out there the dooly drivers and you see these big texans and you can see them with the problem i
Starting point is 01:11:34 imagine them they've got their check shirts on and they've got their and they're describing cody right now they'd have their oversized jeans with their um there's the same amount of tires but like double of them yeah so the duallys and like it's not i'm not captain jack sparrow and then and then so you got but you have heard of me and then you so you got the duty drivers and then these big
Starting point is 01:12:10 you see these big big Texans with the Czech shirts on and if they step out they have the oversized jeans with their boots on with the big belt goggles and they've got
Starting point is 01:12:18 and straight away I look at them going you have fucking tiny tiny like hearts the smallest heart just there and that's where you have fucking tiny, tiny, like, hearts.
Starting point is 01:12:28 It's just the smallest heart. That's what we thought. That's what I'm saying. It's just like, that's why I call the little, the big little Texans. The big little Texans? Yeah, like big men with big little men.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Cody, do you have a belt buckle on right now? I have a fat c**k. He's a man of his word. What have I heard? You's a man of his word and his girth. What have I heard? You're a man of your word and your girth. But do you have a big belt buckle on right now? No.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Damn it. We have King Trout over here. He's like just the biggest belt buckle on the house. And just so we say, I'm not saying, it's more about dualies rather than belt buckles.
Starting point is 01:13:05 And I am going to do it on the Ministry of Defense. We are probably going to do a belt buckle. Yes. So send me belt buckle. I would love, I would rock one of those. Yeah. All day long. We all would rock one of those, dude.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Now this, okay. So going through the, your terrible driving. Wow. Key, key terrible driving. Wow. Key, key, key. Boom. You're in a funny car. Eli's either trying to hit on you or get you to kill him. I'm not sure which.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Either or both. The driving segue leads into your drive to, well, you're born, I didn't, you're driving to the event. But leading up, you had a gentleman in a business suit that you've never experienced before. Leading up to the countdown of the day. Can you go into, because, dude, you will see, this is fucking mind-blowing shit. Like, mind-blowing shit. This sounds like Craigslist classified, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about. Yeah, where are we going eli so i think the story is it's i've told it before on
Starting point is 01:14:10 on different podcasts and things is um so most people know that that the reason why i'm sat here now is because i was i did it um intervened into a terror terrorist incident in 2019 which was the most remarkable day of my life and something I felt I'd been training for since the moment I was born. And that morning of the attack, I was living in Africa and I was doing my own bit of shooting,
Starting point is 01:14:39 finished my training, my own training, and then was driving back into the city. I was driving my pickup truck, and then as I was going towards the city, there's what I call the main, but it's a dirt track. I pulled onto a dirt track. On this dirt track, it was commonly seen by Masai tribesmen or workmen
Starting point is 01:15:00 working on the Chinese rail link. So it was weird for me when i pulled out there to see this this short black guy wearing a smart business suit and highly polished shoes walking down the track and then something compelled me against all procedures against common sense i don't pick up hitchhikers um i stopped the car and went hey do you want a lift and he comes running over thank you so much get in the car so then we start driving and he said to me straight away he said what's your name
Starting point is 01:15:32 I'm Chris he tells me his name and then he said well how old are you I'm 43 that's how it was at the time he said I'm 43 too when were you born September I'm born in September I don't know i'm 43 too when were you born september i'm born in september i don't know what day but what day were you born september 15th he's that this is a good sign in september
Starting point is 01:15:53 1975 you and i were both born says some other stuff that i don't really recall then reaches into his pocket pulls out this long like dagger i don't feel any threat whatsoever feel completely i'w poced yn dod o hyd i'r llawr hwn fel ddeggar dwi ddim yn teimlo unrhyw ddifrif yn unig yn teimlo'n hollol dda amdano ac mae'n fel ac rwy'n sgwyl a dweud nad ydych chi'n mynd i'w ddynnu i mi gyda hyn a dyma fel ddeggar llawr gyfwys gyda llwyth o ddeggar anodd anodd a dywedodd a wna i'n ei gyrru pan fyddwn i'n mynd i lawr yma er mwyn dod o hyd i unrhyw ysbrydau ddewr neu ddewr ac yna mae'n siwglio at ei hun a'i roi i ffwrdd yna dw i'n ei wneud wrth ei weld sut ydych chi'n eistedd rwy'n cymryd eich bod chi'n mynd i'r ddynion or demons and then he chuckles to himself puts it away i then turn to him and say judging by how you're dressed i take it you're going into the city he's like no he goes drop me off at the
Starting point is 01:16:30 first village we come to don't go inside the village drop me off before we get into it remember this is an africa so it's like a like mudhuts wriggleton tribes and and so we come to this farm said this village is yes so I bring the vehicle to a stop. He then opens the door and steps out. As he steps out of the door, everything changes. His foot hits the ground. And as soon as his foot hits the ground, his face changes. And when I mean changes, it's still the same person,
Starting point is 01:17:02 but it's a bit like if I insulted you badly. And he's like, what? His face changes. He's like, Chris. And then his voice changed. And it wasn't, the way I described it is, it was quiet but loud. And I could hear it everywhere. So it wasn't as if he was just coming from one direction.
Starting point is 01:17:16 It was everywhere around me. And I could feel it in my heart vibrating. He's like, Chris, may God bless you many times this day. And then all of a sudden snaps out of it. And he's like, thank you, thank you so much, thank you so much. And then closes the door and I drive off. And for the record, about 150, 100, 150 yards down the road, I look in the mirror, can't see him again.
Starting point is 01:17:40 And I kind of thought about it a little bit then, but I didn't think about it that much. But 30 hours later of the most remarkable day of my life, before I'd even left the complex, his words were echoing in my mind going, wow, where did that come from? Who was that message from? Fucking crazy.
Starting point is 01:17:59 That started the countdown of how many, after that event, how much longer before? So that would have been roughly about 10.30, 11 a.m. And then the terrorist attack happened at 3.30 or 3.27. And then, so the clock was ticking from then. And everything after that was perfect. In my life, I've always said it, I always consider myself unlucky to a certain point.
Starting point is 01:18:23 And if someone had said, on your watch, this terrorist attack is going to happen, then I would say, oh, that's going to be the day I'm going to be out of country or I'm going to be doing something else and not get involved with it. But actually everything from that moment was perfect for the next days. Everything was second perfect because after that I went and got a haircut, got my haircut. Then I went to lunch, had Moroccan beef for lunch and a dour cocktail.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Then I went home and had a shower. And the moment I stepped out of the shower, put my jeans on, that's when the phone rang. Tell me that someone was saying, hey, there's a terrorist attack going on. No shit, so you had a cocktail, you just took your shower and you're like. Yeah, I went to lunch, went to get's a terrorist attack going on. No shit. So you had a cocktail. You just took your shower and you're like. Yeah, went to lunch.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Well, went to get my hair cut. Had a haircut. Then went to a bar that I used to like go into all the time. Really great place. And got lunch, had a cocktail with it. Drove home. Got in the shower. Did some chores first.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Got in the shower. Stepped out of the shower, put my jeans on, put a T-shirt on, phone rang. Looked at the phone, wasn't going to answer it initially, then thought, tell her that I'll answer it. And then it was a friend of mine who was in the complex saying, there's a terrorist attack going on. There's a complex terrorist attack going on at 14 Riverside Drive.
Starting point is 01:19:44 You need to get down here. So you weren't in the area? I was close to it. I lived, luckily, again, everything is a chance or not. I lived fairly close to the area. The story that I heard over and over just tells you how media disseminates information. I always was told that you were there.
Starting point is 01:20:02 You just happened to be there, but you actually heard about it and decided to go. Yeah. Yeah. And that's when I, that's when I jumped in the pickup truck and then, and then drove there. And then what was the drive like leading up to like,
Starting point is 01:20:13 Hey, getting there? Cause you were, so we were talking about it. So this is the thing is like when I get in this, so I get, I hadn't been, I hadn't been living there long,
Starting point is 01:20:18 so I didn't even know where it was. So I put it on Google maps. Where is it? Distance? Not that far. And again, I'm trying not to give away people where people live and stuff. But the distance, I did that drive on a Tuesday afternoon,
Starting point is 01:20:36 which is when it was, after the event, and it took me over an hour to get there. Whoa, okay. On a normal day when the whole city's coming to a halt it took me 15 minutes to get there on the day and i and i used my advanced driving techniques that i'd been taught uh and then i was like driving on the sidewalk i was going in and out and and the thing about advanced driving or high speed pursuit driving as it's called in the police is it's not about driving fast part of it is but it's
Starting point is 01:21:05 about knowing when to make the move and when not to make the move when to go for it the gaps to see because everyone can drive fast sort of that's when you're going to get killed or kill someone else which is never good so it's um so this is the basic 101 san antonio driving course get there yeah yeah it's just get there. Now parallel park. Get there and don't die. And that's what it was. And it was just driving high speed,
Starting point is 01:21:32 getting as fast as I could get there because as it developed, and I kind of sensed it at the time, but what was happening, it was every second counted. Every second counted. So I had to get there as fast as I could because this collapsing timeline. And then what, so what, you were describing it to us.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Music popped on during this. So I, again, the funny story is it was like, again, it's an extreme drive. I'm driving there. I'm trying to call people, trying to make people know, to know success. Part of that thing is trying to get in touch with people. I'm turning up the volume
Starting point is 01:22:04 because I don't know if I can hear them or not but i'm trying i'm driving for my life i'm driving like i've got to get there but i'm not going to kill anyone and i'm not going to kill myself not till you get there and then uh but somehow i had this because it was a new truck um and i had a classical music playlist and somehow i engaged with the music going into the phone like fucking hold music and oh no no no it's more there's more that it's better than I click and all of a sudden this music starts blaring and because I'm like got two hands on the wheel trying to like drive I can't I'm not gonna mess around trying to turn this off and all of a sudden Vivaldi's Summer starts blaring through the music and I'm doing these movies like going in between trucks and
Starting point is 01:22:45 like everything it's like and there's a certain point this is the comedy of it i start laughing because i'm thinking this i'm living in my own movie here so you've forever formed an anchor to that that song yeah for the rest of that song that should be oh is that royalty free yes sir yeah editor fucking put it up dog because it's royalty he already has he's been doing it since he mentioned it yeah so yeah and that's the um and that's the and that was playing it so it's a good soundtrack into that and it was just like i was laughing going this is i'm like living in my own movie you are the main character that's what uh you're casey nice yeah bro yeah i was i was talking to casey Neistat earlier and he was like
Starting point is 01:23:25 bro you're hanging out with the main character but what what kills me about that too is just like you want to go in to the Texas DMV and be like
Starting point is 01:23:35 I know how to drive and they're like do you know how to drive yeah you've only gone through every fucking course in the world to know how to
Starting point is 01:23:43 defensively and offensively drive. Meanwhile, they give a license to every post-Quinceañera citizen of San Antonio. And I've got to admit, though, when they said, when she put the ballads out to Palo Alto Park, my heart was, like, picked up a bit. I'm going, because, like, I was going to Palo Alto Park now. But I didn't realize how big the space is when you do your driver's test in Texas. You and every
Starting point is 01:24:06 Taylor Swift American. That parking space is not a real life parking space. It's like, if you're a parking trip, like an 18 wheeler, that's probably
Starting point is 01:24:15 what you'd put in there. Not a, not a. No, it's literally a football field like, no, parallel park.
Starting point is 01:24:20 It's like two cars a hundred miles per hour. You're like, okay. Yeah. And did I pass? Yeah. Yeah., okay. Yeah. And then I pass. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Good job. Yeah. But it was good and that's fine and I'm glad. What was the second song that came on? The second,
Starting point is 01:24:35 after, so, first song came on, that finished, then the second song came on and that would then, and then I'd reached my destination.
Starting point is 01:24:42 The second song was, I'm not sure if it's pronouncing this right dance macabre another classical piece like it's always a classical playlist that i had and then and that the second one that came on was yeah dance macabre and for anyone out there you when we're saying he was like christian was driving fucking you're like going in between vehicles you're going on the curb you have closing gaps and you're like going in between vehicles. You're going on the curb. You have closing gaps and you're like fucking gun it, going through this shit. Yeah, that was the second song.
Starting point is 01:25:09 And then I'd reached my destination. So now the fucking, you kick open the door, you grab your kit, you're throwing it on. And are they coming to you first with the information? No, there's no one there. It's quiet. And I thought the whole idea of this podcast was not to talk about the incident, but...
Starting point is 01:25:26 Yeah. Yeah, Eli. I know. We all had the fucking rules of engagement from the very beginning, but here we are. But some of these were, even these... And that's the thing is, I drove into this area, saw the burning cars.
Starting point is 01:25:37 There's cars that had been set on fire by hand grenades. Used that as a demarcation line. Okay, I'm not going to go further than those cars. Parked up, threw some kit on. Not the kit. I had more kit in my car, used that as a like a demarcation line okay I'm not going to go further than those cars parked up threw some kit on not the kit I had more kit in my car but I threw that kit on
Starting point is 01:25:50 to look official and then see what's going on and then ran canted forward to the to the like entryway to the complex
Starting point is 01:25:57 to see what was happening and then the rest is history and the rest is history and it's leading up to that Jesus Christ yo hand grenades set shit on fire I thought it was more fragmentation.
Starting point is 01:26:06 I mean, whatever. But they were throwing grenades or something. And originally, people thought it was a car bomb. It was like a diversion type thing. But it wasn't intentional. It was just they were throwing grenades and shooting at people and things. And somehow, the cars set on fire.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Jeez. So, yeah. Eli, you want to bring it up? No, because there's the information. Eli, is there any other PTSD at this table that you would love to just delve into? I want to extract all your PTSD right now. No, it's the information on the religious things on, because you had the feelings inside it.
Starting point is 01:26:40 It's not like the event itself happened. You've told that story a million times. It is the feelings and stuff that you've told that story a million times it is the feelings and stuff that you've not touched based on you're like okay like when you were singing the song like hey like right now hey this is about to happen or what was the feelings in there those little like um i know shane was talking about it it's like you had these little like moments you would look around you're like well this is like it's more of a because that what is that religious experience because to add to it for
Starting point is 01:27:05 that like the the story i was always told like from somebody on the outside looking in just from headlines you were a guy who was there and did the right thing yeah but i didn't realize i think that was a constant a conscious choice you had to make those and you had to go out and seek that out yeah i think the bottom line is without going into the detail of the incident itself, is I went there in a role to, because I heard it was going on, and at the same point I heard a woman scream, and I heard a burst of gunfire, and the scream just got cut off in mid-scream.
Starting point is 01:27:35 And I went, in my mind I was like, someone's just been, she's just been murdered. And I turned to them and say, right, I'm going in. And then the rest is history the rest is history and then you have and then 22 hours later i walked out of it and there's all those religion 22 hours yeah so yeah 22 hours later i walked out the incident was done by then but i wasn't just in out it was and then what i did in between is for you know that's between me i mean lots of people know because i I briefed a lot of people
Starting point is 01:28:05 police military uh there's people out there everyone knows so I'm sure eventually people are going to be talking to people and saying hey what happened and saying well we've heard the full brief and we know exactly what happened what he did who he talked to you know his role in this whole incident it's not for me to talk about right now, but the information is out there, and I'm sure, like I say, we see information, we see videos, we see things that I have no control over coming out all the time. And as more time goes on,
Starting point is 01:28:35 people are looking for these people saying, hey, were you in the police or were you in the military and had a brief by Christian Craighead about what he did? Yes. Do you know what he did here? Oh, yeah, this is when he did this, and this is when he did this bit, and this is this bit.
Starting point is 01:28:47 So this was all authorized when I was in the military, but that information is out of my control and out there. But I could sit here and tell you the whole incident and then just be upset with me, but I'm sure that information will come out on its own. I would never ask you to divulge that information here of all places, but it shows how much there's a discrepancy between the public, I guess, the public idea of what happened versus what actually happened.
Starting point is 01:29:17 Because in my mind, from just somebody that has been reading headlines, I think of this whole incident as taking place over maybe two, three hours. Yeah, and that's- And to hear a 24-hour period, that's crazy. Yeah, I mean, I was briefing some guys in the US military unit, and that was the big thing. They were like, what the- Because again, from their thought,
Starting point is 01:29:35 they just thought it was one building that I'd run into and help and save some people. Yeah. The whole scale of it is pretty epic. And again, it's not for me to talk about it now, but if people hear the full story, and like I say, I'm sure it will come out through people who've heard my story before,
Starting point is 01:29:54 they'll be like, holy moly, that was quite, it's quite badass. And I'm thankful I was there. And that's the thing. And every single evening I pray, and I'm thankful. And I always give thanks for that. And that's the thing. And every single evening I pray and I'm thankful. And I always give thanks for that, was there for that moment. Like what Sarah says all the time is, you know, be the someone.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Exactly. If in absence of it, be the somebody. And that's why I say it's your rip. Sometimes, and I've said it lots of times, is the whole world is coming down around you. And you look and you're waiting for help to come. And then you realize you are the help. And it's like, well, I guess we better get on with it.
Starting point is 01:30:33 And then people fell in line after because they see you. You might have those fierce hesitations we talked about in the car. You're like, you get excited for like, you're like, okay, the gunfire started. This is what I was designed for. This is what I've worked towards. This is what I'm trained for. is what i've worked towards this is what i'm trying and that's the thing and again it's like not taking any like there's people like in every situation people do things and people don't do things and i'm not going to be this dickhead who's going to stand and go yeah i'm the man and i'm alpha male and i did everything and blah blah
Starting point is 01:30:58 i didn't i did do i i you're acting you are legitimately one of the most low-key motherfuckers the humble dude is humble but we've known each other for for a good minute and i you are never that guy yeah and and that's the thing is i and i think maybe the the problem the reason for that is because i don't need to be and that's why again it's my thing and i don't want to go into this um veteran shaming or whatever but but it's these guys who are like the lifting boats and shit like that. Yeah. I mean, that probably,
Starting point is 01:31:25 are we going on the sales? And that, and going about being, and that's why I wanted to do this, this interview podcast is like, do I want to be the super serious guy all the time? It's not because I'm Chris Craig head. It's because yeah,
Starting point is 01:31:40 I'm sometimes I'm kind of funny. I'm a normal guy. I will fuck you up if you cross me, but otherwise I'm, I'm not going to be this guy going,, yeah, sometimes I'm kind of funny. I'm a normal guy. I will fuck you up if you cross me. But otherwise, I'm not going to be this guy going, oh, yeah, I talked to Chris Craig, he's super intense. God, you would not be on this podcast if you were like that. I would have hung out with you once and I'd be like, oh. You know, they were saying someone said I was intense once,
Starting point is 01:31:59 so I stared at them until they apologized. I would apologize. I'm like, I'm sorry, bro. That's one thing that i've always said like even just like from our experiences at shot shows like you know chris craighead oh he's done this he's done that i'm like dude he's always just been like the nicest fucking guy like you've always just been very down to earth you've never been like oh well i'm this person you've just always been just a real fucking and i and i think the people who who are there going yeah i i'm chris craighead or i'm this guy who did this and i'm sas or delta force or seal team six or
Starting point is 01:32:31 yeah and and giving it big chest pumps and yeah be the deadliest man in the room and be hard to kill or whatever it's like you are so insecure that just stinks of insecurity it's like yeah i'm all of that and and more but I don't need to keep reminding you. And it's like that saying, isn't it? If you keep on saying you're an alpha male, it's probably a good indication that you're not an alpha male. I'll do it 100%. All right, I'm going to ask a question.
Starting point is 01:32:56 What do you do in your free time, man? What's your go-to relaxation to get away from your head thoughts, the shit that you've gone through? I think the biggest thing now now is um i go shooting yeah but no i i do that there's the well you know i know some people in san antonio if you ever want to do that i mean for me physical exercise has always been a massive like even last night i think we talked about earlier that i'd be looking at some things on social media and i was like all angst and all angry and i was going to send some messages to people and i was like oh burn like burn it down and then i had a good night's sleep good workout in the morning and
Starting point is 01:33:33 then i was like all chipper like oh how's everything going yeah and that's the big difference and that's a big difference and then uh riding motorbikes really sorts me out. Riding motorbikes fast, shooting guns, and skydiving. They're things that really bring me down to a level. And I don't do this riding motorbikes and skydiving. I don't do as much as I should, but I still do it. And to me, they're a big source of like focus and uh relaxation and that reset for you so the motorbike thing and this is not a shameless plug or whatever but i but
Starting point is 01:34:14 i kind of want to say it because i think it's a good story is i had this when i was living in salt lake city i woke up and i was like i had this dream and i just woke up and was like i need to get a motorbike i've been right i used to ride a motorbike all the time and i'm joseph smith part two and i was like i got a religion and then i so i so i 450 cc's of religion brother so So I thought, get a bike, get a bike. So I get up straight away and look on my laptop and I'm like, on the MacBook and going, more bike. And I was thinking about getting a Triumph Scrambler,
Starting point is 01:34:55 but straight away I'm going, like I've always had a thing with Ducatis. So I go, Ducati, and look at Ducati Scrambler. And I'm like, oh, well, they look pretty cool. Ducati dealership, Salt Lake City. And I just jumped straight in my truck and go straight there. Turned up at, I think it's Euro Motorsports in Salt Lake, and I'm like, hey, I'm just looking,
Starting point is 01:35:14 and see this Ducati Scrambler right there, and going, wow, that's pretty sexy. And at that point, I hadn't ridden a bike in eight years. And so I go in there, and I talk to the guy, I'm saying, look, I hadn't ridden a bike in eight years. And so I go in there and I talk to the guy. I'm saying, look, I'm just looking, had this like crazy thought about getting a motorbike again. Don't know why. I'm looking at getting a scrambler.
Starting point is 01:35:33 You know, I want to see what they've developed. Remember, this is 2022. So like vehicles is hot, the heart had come by. Oh yeah, expensive. So I'm thinking it's going to be like, so my question to him is basically going to say, if I put my lame down for now, am i likely to get one in like two years time or something like that and he's and he just looks and went well funny you should say that we just
Starting point is 01:35:53 had two delivered right now one of them's already been sold if you make a decision in the next 15 minutes you can have it and i'm like um i didn't think it was going to be this soon and i was like i was like to hell with it yeah i'll take it so then got a ducati right there and then uh it got delivered a few days later i'm so jealous and then i saw it so so they get to turn it up i wanted a scrambler for a minute so the ducati scrambler turns it with black i got it delivered a black black rifle in salt lake and i'm there and i'm like, kind of like apprehensive because AES is a ridden. And I must say that motorbikes seem to be a lot easier
Starting point is 01:36:31 to ride now than what they used to be. Get on it and like, holy moly, this is great. But then I said to my friend, Phil Reed Jr. is the managing director of Dakai. And he's a great guy. But I told him this story because this is a thing. So bear in mind, I've been retired for two years, but I've been in lockdown because of that,
Starting point is 01:36:53 two weeks to flatten the curve. And then we... And then we... That's what we call below the radar. That is a good, below the, flatten the curve. And then, so I get on this motorbike to ride home in from Black Rifle Coffee to where I was living in Sugar
Starting point is 01:37:12 House in in Salt Lake that's where I was living in I get on this motorbike and I pull away and I'm riding down the road I start crying i start crying because i'm like and i said to phil i was like this is this feeling that i've got of you're like the thrill
Starting point is 01:37:35 whether it be the thrill of danger i mean you see me ride it's probably throw a dranger because i'm not very good um but but i'm like because i max it out but i'm like carrying it down this road and it's just the freedom the noise you know like the noise of the bike the noise of the air the feeling of the air around you this this like sense of real freedom on a motorbike that you don't get in i don't think you get in the car and i'm just like i haven't felt this way for a good few years and i start like start like crying like like not not like bawling but doing like this emotional like yeah it's fucking it's a feeling it's just like good and that's why i've got such a i think there's a like motorbikes it's just like a it's just a thing
Starting point is 01:38:17 and i think and those who thanks i'm buying one tomorrow and those who don't ride those who don't ride like it's this thing if you've ever thought about it, it doesn't matter how old you are, whether you've been thinking about it, I urge you just to get on one. And even, dare I say it, it's not very manly, but even if you know someone who's got one and get on the back of them,
Starting point is 01:38:38 you will see what I mean. You will feel that feeling. I ride with Brandon all the time. Yeah. No, genuinely. In the sidecar. No, in the back. I ride with Brandon all the time. Yeah. No, genuinely. In the sidecar. No, in the back. I just hold him.
Starting point is 01:38:49 He wraps around my tummy. You know, it's a whole thing. No, genuinely, like that, when I first moved to Texas years ago, that was an experience. We were at brunch, and at one point I just said, like, man, I miss riding motorcycles. I fucking miss it. it's a sense of freedom i think it's weird it's like like people you don't get it and i know it's like a cliche
Starting point is 01:39:11 thing but you don't get it until you feel it and then you feel it and go i i know exactly what you understand yeah yeah no because that it was that day i i left brunch i i went to a motorcycle dealership that was close to where we went to brunch at the time. I bought a bike and I still have it in my garage. And maybe Connor might fucking grab it one day. You're supposed to. I bought three bikes in Texas since then. I fucking love it.
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Starting point is 01:40:38 and your spouse happy it's really crazy for me because like i i thought i had a decent understanding of the incident and i realizing now the more we talk like that i just had no fucking clue and that's the i think the tragedy of it all is again it's not self-gratification or whatever it's a good story but when people hear it they're like even the toughest audience in the world which are tier one operators who i briefed this to they're like what this is like badass because most of the time when people hear things of like historical incidents they're going oh i thought he did a lot more it wasn't as busy as that all but with that's the opposite of mine when people hear what happened they're like
Starting point is 01:41:18 yeah that's badass for reference without giving away anything it's like how many you you were injured on this mission you didn't get injured on this one oh you fuck I suck at my job I got shot doing that you're in like those quarters I'm out in the open and I get shot I got shot in the open
Starting point is 01:41:37 it's just fucking interesting you have a certain perception of it you you think of like okay this thing went down seven seconds late or seven minutes later it's all over yeah i had no idea this took place over a day and the thing again against and there's quite conveniently all the video footage has been taken down so that's fine and you know like i say here's gonna hear i've heard that before. No problem. So I meet him.
Starting point is 01:42:08 I'm then going somewhere else in London. I get in a cab, a black cab. And I'm driving in this cab and London black cab drivers are like the salt of the earth. They're good guys. They know the city
Starting point is 01:42:18 and they're normally good chatter as well. When you say a black cab, what do you mean by that? Like the black London taxis. no i we have no idea yeah what if you just thought he had a low credit score it's like it's like a christy life so in in new york city you've got yellow cabs yeah and in in in london you have the black cabs and they're like licensed um okay cab drivers and they're like they're normally great chat, they know the city, and they've got to be licensed,
Starting point is 01:42:48 and they've got to do a really rigorous testing to be able to drive that cab. And he's talking to me, and I'm looking, and he's in the mirror, and he's like, I don't know how he's here. And then he goes, I think I know you.
Starting point is 01:43:00 And he's like, he goes, are you in the military? And I said, I'm ex-military. And he goes, what were you in? And I said, oh, because I was in a unit called the SAS. And he's like, he goes, are you in the military? And I said, oh, I'm ex-military. And he goes, what were you in? I said, oh, because I was in a unit called the SAS.
Starting point is 01:43:11 And he goes, you're that guy from Kenya. And I was like, yeah, I am. And he's like, oh, oh. And he starts, and he's like, he pulls in, he's like, he's turning, he's like in tears. He went, I can't believe you're in my cab. Like, I goes, got to say, you are like everything, all my friends, everyone, we all love you you're like what what this country should be about what it used to be about well i'm so proud he goes can i call my friend my friend's like one of the
Starting point is 01:43:33 biggest fans he'd love it that i'm in your cab so we'll try to call you i said yeah i'm laughing going yeah call your friend calls his friend he doesn't answer and he was like i just want to say on behalf of the country like you you are what makes Great Britain great. We love you. And I went, oh, thanks a lot, mate. And he goes, you don't understand what that means to me at this moment in time. Because at that time,
Starting point is 01:43:52 I was going through like the darkest of days. And in light of, again, what my friend, the actor, just told me about senior diplomats. And it's interesting. That's what you get. This is, you get the two sides. You get the, like I say,
Starting point is 01:44:04 this officer class or the established upper class going, oh, he shouldn't that's what you get. You get the two sides. You get the, like I say, this officer class or the established upper class going, oh, he shouldn't have done what he did. It's not his place. He could have messed things up. Versus the working class going, you are what makes Great Britain great. We love you for that.
Starting point is 01:44:19 And that's the whole thing that I hope I put this across to people. I'm quite anti-UK. And for the record, I'm working to be a US citizen. I'm not interested in being a dual citizen. I want to do full US citizen because I'm turning my back on my country that I fought for and did everything for. They turned their back on you, though, first. Yeah, but I think the other thing as well,
Starting point is 01:44:43 but here's the interesting thing. In light of the day, this was one of the things i was concerned about again i can't i think a lot more about what people think about me than i should do and i thought given the people who follow me are kind of patriotic about the war on terror and about that kind of stuff and no one's ever said you're a traitor for like wanting to be american blah blah blah you know you should your fights here you should be a british citizen overwhelmingly i've never heard anyone say that you're a traitor for wanting to be American, blah, blah, blah. Your fight's here. You should be a British citizen. Overwhelmingly, I've never heard anyone say that. They're all saying, I wish I could get out if I could.
Starting point is 01:45:11 This country's fallen. Good for you for getting to America. You've genuinely made me a more patriotic American just in the two hours we've had. And that's the viewpoint of the usual working class of the UK. They're not saying, you should stay in the UK, you should be a better UK person, you'll fight here. They're going, good for you for getting out when you can
Starting point is 01:45:29 because this country's fallen. What you've done and how you stood up. It's like we were talking earlier, all of us come from, none of us grew up well-to-do. We grew up in, I lived in a seven 700 square foot with seven people like tiny house cody trailer brandon small house born to a one-bedroom apartment yeah we all grew up poor and then all of us has made this different we all did different walks and lives but everyone just the end goal was like hey i have this dream i have this ambition yours was sas and you
Starting point is 01:46:03 crushed it cody's was, hey, military police officer, and then you're like, I'm going to do YouTube, and you fucking crushed it. Brandon, same. Brandon was supposed to be a lawyer. He dropped out of fucking law school. He's like, no, I am pursuing YouTube, and I'm going to make this fucking work.
Starting point is 01:46:17 And he is crushing it. And then he was like, I want to do Congress. And now he's crushing that, unfortunately. Unfortunately is a good word. But that's the thing is, it's just, but going back onto it, it's just a tale of, you know, like life's complex and everyone's had their views, but it's the shame of, again, of the establishment.
Starting point is 01:46:36 And that's what it is, is the old man always comes back to the establishment. And, you know, I think it's fairly, like, do I support President Trump yes the reason why I support him is because like I've said this before on a podcast I met President Trump and
Starting point is 01:46:54 he thanked me and he was like and the first thing out of his mouth was thank you for saving American lives no one from the British government has ever thanked me for doing what I did that day but to me is when I met President Trump there was no one from the British government has ever thanked me for doing what I did that day. That's crazy. But to me, when I met President Trump, there was nothing in it for him.
Starting point is 01:47:10 That's what I keep on saying to people. It doesn't matter if you support Trump or not support, if you think he's whatever or not. You can have your own viewpoint. The point is, from a human perspective, is that he, no one, when I met him, it was in his private study in the White House. There was no media there. The British government did not know I was there.
Starting point is 01:47:27 No one knew I was there. And someone just told him and said, hey, that guy that did that thing, he's in the White House. And he said, well, I want to meet him. And that's like an abbreviated story. And the first thing he said was, thank you for saving American lives. If there's no one there to hear that, then that kind of, to me, proves that it kind of came from the heart.
Starting point is 01:47:46 It's not the thing, it's not like, hey, make sure you hear me say that. He said it to me and no one else heard that other than the people in that room. So that kind of says something about his feelings on the incident, at least. And the reason why I think people do not like, again, it's down to the establishment.
Starting point is 01:48:05 Like, you know, was Trump born wealthy? a'r rheswm pam dwi'n credu bod pobl ddim yn hoffi, eto mae'n dda i'r ardal. Felly, wnaeth Trump fwyddo, ie, ond nid oedd yn fwyddo i'r clas hwnnw, os yw hynny'n gwneud gwirionedd, os yw pobl ddim yn gwybod hynny. Ac efallai ydw i'n siarad yn llaw yma ac efallai ydw i'n siarad allan o'r llaw, ac efallai y dylech chi ymchwilio amdano, ond mae gwahaniaeth rhwng gallwch fod yn fwy byw, ond ddim yn yr ardal, ac gallwch fod yn fwy byw, ond yn dal i'r ardal like there's a difference between you can be born rich but not in the establishment and you can be born poor but still in the establishment and and and the and the and the uh look after their own so to speak and if you're not part of their gang you know that you're not part of the gang so that's that you are just you're probably my favorite podcast guest we've ever had. Dude, this is what I want to put that out there. Dude, this,
Starting point is 01:48:46 the, the, ah, moment, a lot of some words of how good this fucking is because you are just so well-spoken. You are humble to a degree. I'm not used to like,
Starting point is 01:48:56 it is an amazing thing. And it's awesome to share you, your story, everything to the community because it, it's proof that you don't have to be an arrogant asshole you don't have to do any of that just chase whatever dream you are and then be humble during that journey and life is going to throw fucking speed bumps at you but persevere step up you're gonna have dark times you've you've discussed multiple dark times i don't know how openly but you still didn't give up during those you ptsd we all like it's those experiences we've all have and some more than others but you didn't let that end you or your career or your
Starting point is 01:49:39 lifestyle you're like now i'm gonna fucking keep going i'm gonna keep pushing on and i'm going to fucking keep going. I'm going to keep pushing on. And I'm going to set the example of how dudes should be. Because we all at this table, dollar for dollar, you're probably somebody that I personally know that has done the most, who has talked about it the least. And I think one of the things, like, I'm super proud of this children's book. And this is not a plug. Plug the fuck out of it. No, plug the fuck out of this.
Starting point is 01:50:04 I wrote this. Only two hours after I the fuck out of it. No, no, no. Plug it, dude. This is what I wrote. I wrote this. Only two hours after I spilled White Claw on it. Sorry. I'm not going to talk about how this book came about and all the rest, but it's the children's book I wrote.
Starting point is 01:50:12 But one of the, I just found it. What's the name of it? The Wrong Wolf. There we go. But the thing that I like, I mean, all of it is me.
Starting point is 01:50:20 None of it was edited. The only editor was my dear friend, Denise. She did like a grammar edit. But it's all from my heart. So how it's written, how it's worded is me. And she just did the grammar edit. One of the things I get to it, it's kind of a biography,
Starting point is 01:50:40 but it represents everyone in life, but it's the dedication. And this book is dedicated to all the wolves living in the wrong pack i've literally and it's the one thing i was like connor this is a really good statement before the podcast started i read that i was like holy shit this is probably one of my favorite statements i've ever read what is the statement all uh this is this book is dedicated to all the wolves living in the wrong pack and and the whole moral of the story is it doesn't matter how or when you're born, how or where you're born, that doesn't determine where you end up in life.
Starting point is 01:51:12 It's such a true story. It's just if you're an individual, you can be in the wrong pack. You just have to rise above and go on your own or build a new pack. That's why I think with this group, you are part of this pack. You can lead it if you want. We're fine with it. I'm sure they all agree. But it is.
Starting point is 01:51:28 And if you feel like wherever you want to lead us, we will just go along with it because we're scared. Wherever you want. Why are we naked? Uh-oh. Why are we carrying the boats, Chris? Why are we covered in bass and we're watching Harry Potter?
Starting point is 01:51:48 This is weird. Seriously, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for having me on. Seriously, brother, it has been an honor and a privilege to have you on. This has been amazing. This is probably easily one of my favorite episodes. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:52:06 Should we give some shout outs? Two shout outs. Do, should we? You whatever the fuck am I, I'm sure. Two shout outs to Eli in Georgetown, my friend Eli. I like your name. No, no, remember we spoke to him on the phone. Oh yeah, holy shit, yes.
Starting point is 01:52:18 He's a good friend of mine and I love his whole family. I won't say their surnames for security, but the whole family get on with him. But when I mentioned, I was mentioned about, I'm thinking of doing this. I'm not thinking, I'm going to do this unsubscribe.
Starting point is 01:52:30 But he was like, oh, I completely watch it. So I called you and then he was like blown away. And again, that was good for me to say like, like that was the, all right,
Starting point is 01:52:40 people actually watch this. That was the dude, that text you like, are you busy? I was like, what the fuck? Why is he telling me about that? Yeah, Chris like, are you busy? I was like, what the fuck? Why is Chris texting me? And then FaceTime, I was like, oh, hey, what's up?
Starting point is 01:52:51 And so young Eli, for giving a subscriber and to Ace from Lucchese. I went to the store yesterday, and I was looking around, and Ace, so if you're watching, you should do it because he's a subscriber. And they said, what are you doing here? I said, I'm doing a podcast and unsubscribing. He goes, oh, I'm a subscriber and blah, blah, blah. So I said, I'll give you a shout out. And he was a great guy in the shop.
Starting point is 01:53:15 I need a new pair of boots, so I might go down there. Yeah, I mean, they're good. I'd only say these $1,000 pair of boots. They're nice-ass boots. They're better than $5,000 pair of boots? God damn're nice-ass boots. $35,000 pair of boots? God damn. But these are the cheapest ones, I think. Oh, shit, I'm not going to Luceze.
Starting point is 01:53:33 Ariat's good by me. Luceze's boot better than your blowjob. That's a down payment right there. If you're watching this still, if we haven't had this bit out it's been a great job everyone else luchese boots they're really nice they're comfy they're good they look good i'm not being sponsored by them at all no but maybe i will be but but with brandon with uh with branson branson cognac armani jeans anyone else we can name drop in there,
Starting point is 01:54:05 Black Life of Coffee, and whoever else. Just making sure we get that AdSense revenue up. Real estate, real estate, mortgage banking, money, Bitcoin. Isn't that the manager of Wrexham Football Club? Yeah. Wrexham Football Club, anyone else? Sorry, I rephrase that, everyone.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Wrexham Soccer Club and then SAS State Secrets which is like plugging everything yeah the MOD
Starting point is 01:54:32 like my MOD not your MOD and then all that jazz I fucking love it Cody do the beauty close us out
Starting point is 01:54:40 you beautiful son of a gun thank you guys for joining the unsubscribe podcast I didn't talk much but we have eli double fab we have christian craghead we have brandon herrera and myself donut operator thank you so much for listening to whatever the fuck we do here and then uh mr christian where can we find you website fucking sure plug this shit yeah i mean um check out my my shadow band
Starting point is 01:55:07 all the time on instagram but it's so you have to go to the party so you have to type in christian underscore craighead press search and then the bottom of the list the one with the blue tag that's me so that's where you go so don't type in i think my one of my fake accounts has got like 12 000 followers or something. But yeah, Christian underscore Craighead, the one with the blue tick, that's me. And is this on Amazon? No, it's not on Amazon. So go to bookbaby.com.
Starting point is 01:55:36 And you're about to launch a new website? Yes, and my company is called the Ministry of Defense. And that's on Instagram, and it's on the internet and that's where you can buy all the merch and you'll be able to buy copies of the wrong wolf but they'll be all individually signed by me and not only will you be able to buy merchandise but as as the company develops if you want to do one-on-one training or any training if you're from a special mission unit or anything this is where you're going to go to if you want to do one-on-one training or any training if you're from a special mission unit or anything this is where you're going to go to
Starting point is 01:56:06 if you want to do any firearms or combat training with me then you can find me there do you have any experience in that
Starting point is 01:56:13 a little bit I saw some on TV I've watched Die Hard hey guys thank you so fucking much and then stay tuned for the after show. We will do a 10-minute segment and just hang out with our boy.
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