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Episode Date: July 22, 2024

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hard drives. Hot dogs strutting floozy. Oh my God. When's the last time we recorded? Jack, it's been so long. It's been a while. It's good to have you back. Thank you.

Thank you. I'm happy to be here. Are we rolling right now? Yeah, dog. We're always rolling. That's always what we do. Oh, now the pressure's on. Yeah, now the pressure's on.

Our subscribe never stops. It never... We can do it. It's been a while since we cracked one, I think, right? We do it every time, right? One, two, one. No, the last podcast. We haven't recorded in three weeks?

Oh, God. Oh, yeah. It's been a minute. We did crack for Dean Cain, though. We did. We always crack. It's just the last time we recorded. We did crack for Dean Cain.

I'll get that on a t-shirt. I loved him in Rat Race. I loved him in that movie. I forgot he was in Rat Race. Some of his best work was he i've never seen yeah he played the cheating boyfriend no shit he flies the helicopter down and she's screaming at him from the helicopter that's the one with mr bean in it right yeah and rat race was one of those movies that came out and then they played it like on tbs you know

three times a day for about five years straight and t yeah hi everyone welcome to the unsubscribed podcast i am joined today by mr eli double tap the always beautiful jack mandeville brandon herrera and myself donut operator we're going to talk about assassinations why why did something happen did something happen jack we just play like we recorded this before. We didn't know. Totally wasn't for clickbait and actually capitalize on the situation. For no reason in particular. It's just the thumbnail is just Eli like this. Someone tried to shoot him?

Well, I just, I get, you guys always get tagged on Twitter, but Twitter is like, oh, and so talk about this. I was like, why? We're retards. Why the fuck do you want want our opinion yeah i just i can't wait i just want to f**k with people at a certain point when they just come in like dude did you see somebody try to shoot trump and i just want to reply no i don't watch game of thrones that's what i want that's what i want to do like two weeks from now i just want to tweet somebody try to shoot trump bro have you seen the news yeah i did the worst thing possible when that happened too i went straight to twitter or x i went straight to x to get everyone's take 30 seconds after it happened and no you know with with no information whatsoever other than pure speculation on the internet i'm just glad it

really brought us all together and didn't cause a massive divide in the country is what I'm most proud of. What's funny is that on Twitter or X, like it was actually 30 minutes after it happened. It was way less of a than a day later. A day later is when everybody decided that they were coming up with their theories. Ballistics experts. Yeah. People never touched a gun in their life. We're like, well, that was obviously a piece of glass, not a bullet.

Like how? If a five, five, six would obviously a piece of glass, not a bullet. Like, how? If a 5.56 would have hit his ear, his head would have exploded. We all know that. The damage. The sheer pressure. They all became protection experts. They all became ballistics experts. Yeah.

There was that one viral tweet on Twitter. It was a Marine. Yeah, he was a Marine. He was like, I'm a combat Marine. I've been there before. If a 5. He was like, I'm a combat Marine. I've been there before. If a 5.56 hits you, it destroys everything around it. There's a reason they had to identify those kids by DNA only. Do you saw that?

No, I just remembered. Both of these guys got... Marty is in the background right now. He'll be on. They both got shot in basic training by 5.56. He's the other one that got shot in basic training. How did you survive? Me, Marty Scolvin, and Donald Trump,

we rocking this boat together, boys. You've got the 5.56 teardrop tattoos together. It's a very, like the whole bullet though. He got shot by a saw too, right? Oh, just a normal rifle. The same round. Same round. you serious yeah oh god yeah this is good we'll get that so oh i forgot about that i looked over i was like good story you'll never so see so much uh scarring without a purple Heart as you will in this room right now. That shows you all three of us have been shot by five. Well, I got 762

but like bounce. We don't have massive scars. Do you have any spare Purple Hearts? You could give Marty. I you already have all the Brandon. Yeah. Yeah, Brandon. We got to get you a medal of honor, dude. I don't think we do. We do. We got Clint's coming. Oh, great coming oh great yeah no he's

got spares when's he coming uh he's trying to do next month oh yeah nice well i've got a good medal of honor guy if you want one he can do all the branches dude it's gonna be clint rome a medal of honor recipient and clint rome mache i already know the title for that i hate that title and brain is just gonna be like i love i love how that went from like just like a small inside joke to now like everywhere on the unsubreddit. There's just like pictures of me photoshopped in like North Korean generals with like an entire chest full of metals. And the best part is AI.

Now when AI chat GDP makes you it because it has to comb the internet. It's like he is a soldier. That's why it puts dog tags on you. Did you ever think about that? I was like, oh, the AI actually is like Brandon is a US soldier Army veteran Medal of Honor. Well, at least we're not at Skynet yet or it happens. It wipes out everyone. They leave you alive.

You're like you are a true hero. What do you want to do next when dude it's so funny we were generating those images on chat gbt the other day and i was just like generating all my friends like you know of course you're in like battle rattle and like showed me because i'm military and battle route i searched brandon and it showed him in a plate carrier and camo like dog tags like yes this is awesome my favorite part was that you had like a flamboyant gun like your current haircut tattoos it gave me a pink like it gave me like an uwu gun didn't yeah yeah that's on brand i know ai it's shockingly close and same for veteran brand shut up martin's like i was here we were gonna talk about an assassination damn okay bro so this is i jack we text jack today we were sitting at lunch we were going through everything and then uh

text you and we all agree like yo jack would be good we text you and you're like i've been doing research on all the assassinations like we're doing a podcast today everyone good everyone good like yep yep yep yep and then I was doing research on assassinations, and by God, somebody beat me to it. Yeah, right. I was just doing a little research material for you know what. Jesus Christ. That's it.

That's going to be a two-second reel. Do we cut that? Oh, great. It just cuts to the Zapruder film? Dude, I mean, starting, we can all go over. First off, cold barrel, all that stuff. It's not... That's a hard-ass shot if you're with a cold barrel and a red dot and the bullets.

You're not grazing somebody's ear on purpose with that rifle. If you have a shitty DPMS, which he had, you had a zero magnification on that, like a shitty little red dot. And you're a 20-year-old retard with the muscle mass of a high school cheerleader. Missing that shot is really not a surprise.

Someone said it was a DPMS, right? That is like a two to three minute MOA rifle? That was like PSA before PSA, which is funny because they're owned by PSA now, but. So that minute of angle means MOA is, one is your standard. You like one-to-one is a good AR.

Which means it's one inch at a hundred yards, two inches at 200 yards. Yeah, and then that means if you have a two to three MOA at 100 yards, you have a two inch, any which way like shot group that's going to happen. If you're three-inch at 100 yards, then you're like what, four and a half at 150?

Yeah. Literally four and a half. You have a four and a half inch wiggle room. That's a good size. Some would say too much, frankly. Yeah. You don't want to hurt the poor girl, you know. Did you say four and a half inch wiggles? But it is four and a half inch playroom on a two moa red dot that is taking up a majority of a head at 150 yards so basically if you had dialed in like a laser you have four and a half inches of

play this is a robot like yeah if you are like locked down zero variation from the shooter at all or the optic and that's without the seven to ten mile per hour crosswind yeah going into account so a robot shooting perfectly would still it could go any which way on that so just the idea that just so you all understand how ballistics work and at that distance, how difficult it would be to just nick a ear. I saw somebody comment. They said, this is the first time a low left shooter won someone in election. The captain America.

So you whiffed it low left. For those who don't know the shooting community, shooting low left is like a meme. It's like what every inexperienced shooter does is they they whiff it low into the left anticipate recoil and then trigger like trigger pull all those little and take that into account it's like trigger pull breathing if it's not an easy shot to do it is if you're trained but also you'd need a like a sniper sniper rifle to nip an ear if you're if oh yeah no no if you wanted to do it on like nick the ear on purpose that's damn near impossible with that setup yeah exactly so just so that's clear now

absolutely bananas that all that happened period oh yeah yeah we were just hanging out i think right before then we got home and i think one of you were we hanging out that day i think so yeah then we just we we got home and then it was like i don't know six in the afternoon like my phone explodes and i thought it was a joke at first and sure enough like oh same where were you were you just like what the fuck i was uh visiting an old dear friend of mine that i served in the marines with and he's currently a 10th group guy so he's got some years of combat experience under him uh we both we both uh kind of you know while nobody had any information what was going on but we both kind of said to each other if you look at historically these assassination attempts or successful assassinations, it's typically less politically motivated, more they're just pure nut jobs.

We still don't know what this guy's deal with. We're finding out more about him. But historically speaking. That's never stopped anyone before. Keep going. No. Historically speaking, when you look at people that have attempted the lives of U.S. presidents or have successfully done it, it's typically not politically motivated. They're just nuts.

Well, how else is Jodie Foster going gonna pay attention to me exactly yeah no that that hot dog strut and floozy now we're just gonna put jody foster in the thumbnail too yeah random attack on jody foster successful she watches she's a huge fan she She replies. She's like, fuck you, Jack Mandeville. Wow. Something tells me Jodie Foster does not watch Unsubscribe. Maybe. Maybe she does. Jodie, what do you think?

Yeah. Just be aware of your friends who love J.D. Salinger. That's all I got to say. Which one was that? He wrote Catcher in the Rye. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, I know that part. Oh, really?

It was Reagan's? Oh, no. I thought that was the John Lennon assassination. Both. Both were Catcher in the Rye. Yeah. I know that part. Oh, really? It was Reagan's? Oh, no. I thought that was the John Lennon assassination. Both. Both were Catcher in the Rye. Yeah. Somebody needs to start figuring that book out. Yeah, that book really.

Let's burn some books. Yeah. I didn't want to go there. I stopped myself about halfway through that sentence, but I'm glad you finished. Yeah. Also, Cody plays a Nazi here this week. Hi. Burn books.

I lost my locket, but i can still burn some books yeah we got a tiny guns three coming out here in a couple days right yeah by the time this comes out maybe tomorrow this will come out tomorrow and then this is like a wednesday release and then oh this is a fast turnaround shout out to dave reardon for turning around boys a monster shout out to you two for showing up too on that quick can i give a shout out to dave reardon have you ever noticed what dave he's the best at leaving comments in the comment section i don't think there's anybody that's as funny in the comment section as dave reardon is never mind on ig he's king at that he's so good at just saying something snarky uh uh at the right time i posted a picture of me in the new car and his response was like

does it come in men's i was like you dave i don't even got a response there was a justin justin governal uh if anyone doesn't know justin he's really big in a dog rescue justin governal commented on a post i was on recently and dave dave commented as his the podcast he goes we will give you ten dollar or we will give ten dollars to a dog shelter if uh god what did he say god i just ruined this this is really you're doing great sorry no hold up right now i gotta look it up i gotta look it up now oh geez i'm so sorry i just in reality like he's so justin governal is a friend of ours, the naked and afraid guy and everything like that, but he's super into dog rescue because

I think he secretly fights them. Yeah, it's Hispanic. You know, it's in our blood. He's a fighter wants to fight. Yeah, he is. He's an MMA fighter. He literally fights. Governal says he doesn't make the dog fight each other. He fights the dog gets naked like

Governal says, what's your policy on gay abortions and dave replies we will donate ten dollars to a local dog shelter if you unfollow us that's really funny yeah jesus ever since i've known him like if dave riggerton makes a comment in any type of corporate post or a personal post, it's going to be funny. Dude, Dave is our thumbnail guy. He has changed. That dude is absolutely amazing at thumbnails that none of us knew for a majority. And so every time a video doesn't get the views we want it to, we blame Dave.

You got that? That was the big holdover joke over in the old Drinking Bros days. You know, just blame Dave. Blame salty Dave. That's one thing we can always agree on is we can always blame Dave. He's editing this too. God damn it. Love you, Dave.

Drinking Bros getting PTSD. Now we got to deal with them. But he does make the best thumbnails. He's killing it. Great editor. Okay, we're about to go into this assassination history. We're about to. Tiny Guns 3.

This is prepping for it. They've got to watch. We got to watch a rough, almost final rough. But it is good. Holy shit. I've seen the first rough, the second rough and you're like when you edit when you do anything like that you have to take a step back and be like ah it'll get there it's place holding sound music holy it was shot great who shot that corridor

corridor yeah yeah i was uh there were some bits like because i saw a very rough rough where no cgi no sound design any of that and there were certain bits where i'm like all right well that like i'll trust the process you know trust the science so to speak but i'm like i'm like this is kind of a little drawn out like i really hope this is funny in the final cut and once i saw what they did with it i was laughing my ass off like it was it was well done the reveal with your character i won't give it away obviously but the reveal with your character is phenomenal that's the end dude and all of our friends were there too and the death all right you said you ever death is fucking amazing it's pretty good dude his death you

should actually actually how long is it just show the death to jack really cool i saw the rough cut i showed him my death oh yeah the violent violent one oh yeah i uh, Jake was over. He showed us a rough cut. Dude, it... Bro, we had us. We had administrative results. We had Grantham. We had Fat Electrician. We had Micah.

Scott, Kentucky Ballistics. Kentucky Ballistics. Caleb, Francis. Caleb, Francis. We had, dude, everyone was there. Everyone in that space was there acting, killing it, too. Demolition Wrench was my Nazi buddy. Which, I mean, Jesus Christ.

Oh, good time to bring him up. I was going to say that. With all the shit going on with him right now, I'm just thinking in the back of my mind. So for those who don't know, and we'll get into this later because this is its own ordeal, the guy who took the shot in Pennsylvania on Trump was wearing a Demolition shirt. Again, motive and everything is a completely different story but like we there was it was demolition was in the headlines for some not great reasons and then uh on twitter everybody was going crazy because he

just posted that selfie a month ago when they were dressed as ss officers like oh he's apolitical huh and i'm just in the back of my head i I'm like, let's just, can we post tiny guns? Because this is, in a vacuum, this is really bad. You get to see how dumb people are when they just assume, like, we're not just wearing, Marty, we're not wearing SS costumes for fun. Just so you know,

you're eyeballing me over here like, bro, I was an iOvite. I showed up in mine. They got mad at me. Yeah, Marty looks Aryan as fuck, dude. Tall, blonde, blue eyes. Jawohl. But it was people just don't separate the idea.

Reading comments, it's like, well, they should at least. They didn't have to be an all proper Nazi outfits. They could have done like one-offs instead and you're like what you're doing a piece where nazis are getting killed no one's gonna cry about that that's the joke that's the whole joke of the video is you're killing nazis we don't rewrite history because you're uncomfortable with a word or imagery that pops up especially when it's not like we're it's for a film that's like being mad at Tarantino for everything he does. I just don't understand people

not being able to separate. Yeah, it was for a bit. They were acting. You're getting mad at the guy who played Jeffrey Dahmer. It's irritating, the low IQ. I still hate the guy who played Corporal Upham in Saving Private Ryan.

I'll never get over that shit. That's fair, though. I mean, he's a good actor. He really did his job well. I want to beat the shit out of Corporal Upham. It's like Geoffrey from Game of Thrones. That dude got so much hate. Oh, my God.

That's why he's quit acting, too. Yeah. He was like, yeah, after that, I was good. Hey, you did a really good job. People are going to hate you. Luckily, he gets to quit acting after a really nice HBO paycheck for a few years. That's at least kind of nice. Yeah, he's set for a lot.

Well, you know what I love? Like the Harry Potter kid. What's his name? Ratcliffe. Yeah, Daniel Ratcliffe. That dude was set up with basically generational wealth by the time he turned 18. What I love about that guy, Hey, he's a really good actor.

So he does the, this big, you know, box office, uh, franchise for his entire childhood. And now that he's just got money, he just takes the weirdest roles.

He just does the weirdest movies because he doesn't need the money. Swiss army, man. Yeah. He just does the weirdest roles. Cause like, I don't need the money. I just got to have fun with this. Yeah because i don't need the money i just gotta have fun with this yeah swiss army man uh what was it the guns akimbo like just stupid premises but he has so much fun with it yeah he's just like just he

literally gets to act purely for fun at this point that's living that's living yeah also he didn't have a childhood because he was on film sets you entire childhood. He set up for a long time. He's good. He's set up. He's not one of those weird child actors. He's done very well. And then Demo. Oh, but going back to the Demo, the Nazi stuff.

Demo is one of the kindest humans we know. He's just driven by. He's motivated. He's a veterinarian. He's trying to help others. That's how his whole YouTube started was veterinarian he's trying to help others he like that's how his whole operation the youtube started was veterinarian stuff right well he's got yeah a separate channel uh vet ranch yep which had like a couple million subs back in the day but youtube cracked down on it because it was

graphic content even though it was like he's like dude i'm you know we blur anything that's super crazy but like i'm saving animals wait i can't jerk off this horse on youtube anymore we used to be a proper country. I'm sorry. I've never watched his veterinary channel. Man, this is his 52 versions of this video. I'm not 100% confident that that wasn't one of the videos he put up.

I don't know. I make a horse come. Number eight. He's the most wholesome dude ever, man. He's the best of us. When he's not with a horse. Yeah, when he's not making horses come. Hey man he's the best of us when he's not with a horse yeah when he's not making horses come but hey that's just work baby his first time cussing like i think he said a slip up one time but on sub was the first time he ever cursed period on the internet yeah on the internet yeah i mean he's no i saw i saw those white robes in his closet. So, yeah.

Just kidding. I've never... I've had two conversations with him. I don't know him. But he's a good dude. Like, everyone on this side will verify just what a... It's just an unfortunate circumstance that happened. That's the irritating part, because I'll say this about...

I'll say it about Carriker, and I'll say it about Scott from Kentucky Ballistics. Like those, they are the best of us. They are the most wholesome, just family men. They, I mean, they don't really get political. They don't do anything like the, the most Matt has ever gotten political. I think was helping me out during my campaign. And that was, and because we're homies. Yeah.

Like that, that was the most he's ever gotten political. Cause like, and people do that by the way where like i'm sorry for interrupting no people do that like they just want if you're friends with someone and even if you don't like agree with their politics if you're homies with someone you're like i want my friend to succeed that's it it's that simple yeah and like i he uh people actually used to get pissed at him because or they have a lot of them still do because they're like, he never supports. He never he never goes outspoken about two way rights and the Constitution, stuff like that. And like I've always my defense for him has always been he's the beginning of the funnel.

You know, like you have to get people interested before you start screaming like that shit's super important. But before you can scream at somebody about my Constitution, my rights, this is this. Get him interested. The John Wicks, the Call of Duties, things like that that make people think guns are cool and they want to start looking into it like that shit is how you get people into the second amendment in the first place and you're talking to a girl or parents for the first time you're trying to introduce them to something i'm not going to show brandon herrera's assassination video which stay tuned well i don't think you should frankly that's like the's like the first video. You're like, hey, check it.

This guy's really cool. You're like, okay, this is him assassinating Martin Luther King. That's a speech check right there. I mean, if you pass that. Speed. I just like guns because of what they can do to people. And what's that? I'm not going to make that joke.

I don't know what it's called. I just know the sound it makes when I take a man's life. Jesus. I just know the sound it makes when it nicks a man's ear. Of course, that was fake. Because the experts on Twitter told me. He cut himself with glass, right? It was a piece of glass that went flying by i think either that or it was a blood packet that he smeared on

his ear that's regardless i've seen shrapnel do more damage to people than bullets have so i mean either way that was not a good situation to be in no either way like no matter what it was like there was a gunman at about 130 yards that fired multiple shots at the former president and current presidential candidate who was also wearing a demolition ranch t-shirt and then he got screwed well it's it's stepping back on that what was that last bit yeah i'm sorry modifying that because matt's going through a shit storm that's like the main thing i want to take away yeah the the history on assassination i'm glad you did research on that shit it is a one-off it's very rare to be to happen in our lifetime is 40 years ago was the last time over 40 years reagan reagan yeah and that's ridiculous and then

as you i mean everyone said it was demo woke up to i seen the shooter's name trump's name and then his own name being all mentioned in the same article and homeboys just like and then you have individuals like when's the last time you talked to the shooter it he has a militia now apparently because his name is demolition the demolition that's isn't it's perfectly normal to read the comment section when you have about 8 000 comments and try to get to know every single person that's commenting on your videos 8 000 is cute he's probably like yeah exactly i don't know but i only watch him for his horse jerk off videos all right surprisingly fewer comments on those videos jack replying to himself he's time stamping the segment it's a thread of one

it's Jack Mandeville one Jack Mandeville two that guy seems a little nuts like he might try to shoot the president or something yo 658 man Jesus Christ hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure

stay three nights this summer at Best Western and get $50 off a future stay Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure. Stay three nights this summer at Best Western and get $50 off a future stay. Life's a trip. Make the most of it at Best Western. Visit bestwestern.com for complete terms and conditions. No, but that's what got me kind of militant about it is because the media, I saw a couple of articles where they described the demolition, which is not a thing. That's just like a slang word for the people who watch demolition ranch videos like oh hey the demolition it's like your group of people your audience it's not a militia he's not described he's not training in northern michigan with a bunch of yeah insulin needing fat dudes in the woods but

they were just saying like they were saying it's a right-wing militia based out of Texas. It's like, no, you retard. You didn't do, you didn't even so much as Google it. He created the name and he just, like, put it out. I forget how he's like, oh, this. And then the response was like, oh, that's it. That is all. That's how that name is. He was like, this sounds cool.

Yeah. That's all there was to it. There is no actual demolition. There's nothing. And it's just the, it's the shitty reporters. But yeah, I saw multiple articles do that. so that's why i kind of went on the war path about it because it's like dude this is my friend and when people go after my friends for bullshit yeah no i'm gonna i'm gonna be more hateful than they are oh yeah and we're very

that's what i love about all the guys it's like the bro community the community down here everyone just has each other's back when it's like overstep that line it's like oh it's like when they after when uh when they went after wendigoon oh dude i'd never seen someone the labrador retriever it's he's uh he's uh what is it it's a golden retriever pup that is adorned by a pack of wolves yeah it's like weird wendigoon is do you know i've seen that he's been on uh y'all's show. He is one of the nice, most wholesome dudes, and then people went at him for a couple of random stuff, but you have all the boys.

Is he a Twitcher? No, he's just YouTube. You would love him. He's a history slash book nerd. Oh, really? That Twitch community seems like super toxic. I only know about it from like i

read their controversies on x we're all like yeah i'm where are the toxic ones no i i see these controversies happen on x and see it seems like a place where everyone just wants to burn each other yeah pretty much yeah They are the least happy with themselves out of any community I've ever seen. It's like it's where Tumblr went to live stream. Yeah. I was telling Marty on the way in here. I was like, for the first time in like years, I looked at the comment section on YouTube when you told me to. And I said, the unsubscribe community is like really positive.

It creeps me out how positive these people are. It's a really supportive place, man. I don't trust them. I have a text. It's one of my favorite Jack texts. It felt nice. I read

4,000 comments. I was like, these are all positive. What the fuck is going on on what kind of youtube is this crazy my favorite jack uh uh jack text was a video of matt carriker jerking off a horse but you know hey it's to me that's a hall of famer video right there you didn't have to keep sending carriker jerking off the horse the freaking star wars kid in the garage and the shoes uh thing oh we'll get into the shoes thing. Oh, right here.

Yeah. Thank you for having me on. I did what you said and read the comment section and ended up leaving my first comment ever on YouTube. And it's just being a positive. I've just filmed another.

Eli told me to check out the comment section this episode. I was told it did well. I've been popping up on YouTube, sketching, podcast, blah, blah, blah.

I just want to thank you for having read that one story you did but everyone thank you guys so much and here's a video of Matt Carra timestamp let's skip to the good part but yeah it is we are blessed with a

amazing community oh man those live shows you guys did. Yeah, holy moly, man. You get into a little silo when you do stuff on the internet a lot. Whether you're making videos or writing articles, you don't really see people's reaction. All you can do is read the comments section, but it's not a really good gauge of reality.

So those live shows were a true testament to the community you guys have built and the community itself. Yeah, we're going to have to make sure that we're definitely going to be doing more live shows here at the end of the year. We're just going to have to make sure that they're nowhere near sloped rooftops. Out in the open. Just because there's a lot of people that will probably take it as a challenge at this point. Stay out of Allegheny County, boys. Jesus. I can't wait.

Fucking hell. This is going to be one of the podcasts. This is going to be one of the most political podcasts. Also, I read. I mean, it's really not. No, but it was weird going out aside the community and seeing other comments is like, oh, how do other communities view? And so it's like, oh, they're super political.

And I was like, no, that dude has never watched a single episode that is what we pride ourselves on that one that even brandon running i love that you were running and we still yeah like we were running for i was running for office and we we still did the podcast the entire time and i would briefly mention like shit from the campaign trail like whatever but i wasn't sitting here like and that's why we need to like i never used it as a i like how you just went full millennial and instead of turning into a proper you know perfect politician you just like kept doing this podcast and leaned into it even more i had so many people asking me so they're like so you get into office you're gonna stop the podcast right i'm like no no we're not talking politics and they they talk about people jerking horses off man and they had to spend 10 million

dollars to barely stop a youtuber from getting in that's my favorite thing it's like that that will be a crowning achievement till the day i die oh yeah oh yeah that's real power when you think about it yeah it's that that that was was a shot off the bow that hopefully District 23 realizes, but also I think this is going to be a political case study for a long time because this changed a lot. Well, we're going to see, too. I mean, anyone that is motivated in politics, they don't have to come from the normal route like they used to

where you go to law school and you do this and do that. And, again, in American history, we've had actors and musicians become political leaders, like they used to where you go to law school and you do this and do that it and again in american history we've had actors and musicians become political leaders but you're gonna see it's gonna be a thing youtubers will start doing this and they will leverage their online popularity to to to get votes yeah and and that's that's something that i if i could get on the soapbox real quick for just one thing just about what the implications are for that is i say it's i i said it at the the very end of my campaign i'm like this is the beginning of open source politics yeah you know the the big money doesn't matter as much as it used to they spent they outspent

me 10 to 1 spending about a 10 about 10 million dollars to shut off a youtuber that is incredible that means that the the deep state money doesn't spend like it used to and that the traditional media sources that they can just throw money at don't have as much of an impact as a social media campaign and that scares the dog shit out of them and to your credit you you hit the campaign trail you were yeah you were moving both yeah we were like april uh there was a 20-day period where i had 30 events in 20 days or something like that like i was doing multiple events per day all over a district that's like seven eight hours wide yeah mr beast announced that if the age was if they lowered the age he would run for president but i'm wondering if he continues on his path if he

does that period because mr beast if he ran for president he he would i don't think he would win like if he ran right now he would come nowhere close to winning but he would probably pull more than rfk he could he could dead serious he could ross perot an election and disrupt uh oh everything yeah that's a good pull ross perot is a very good perfect billionaire philanthropist that was also a soldier he was uh i don't know i don't know i know that he did a lot of stuff for veterans he had a huge non-profit i forget what it's called but ross books and yeah no but ross perot like uh if ross perot didn't exist george george hw bush would have won the second term uh he pulled a lot of uh republican votes uh i'm sure maybe some democrat votes too but he disrupted it for ge H.W. Bush.

He was a very big financial, fiscal conservative. And so he would buy his own airtime on TV and just stand in front of the fucking whiteboard. He's just like, now listen here, this can't stand. Just bought his own, yeah. Billionaire. He was kind of like Bernieernie ron paul bernie sanders he was the he was the predecessor to the the ron paul bernie sanders revolutions yeah like on paper he was the trump without the the mass

appeal yeah yeah yeah well the 2016 election was the first time in american history where both candidates had 100 uh name recognition. If you think of previous candidates, they would come up at the last second. People had to learn about them. Everybody knew who Hillary Clinton was, and everybody knew who Donald Trump was. Oh, yeah, I never thought about that. Yeah, holy shit.

Yeah, coming up in any of these before it was not known. Obama popped out at the last second. People know who George Bush was because of his family, but yeah. Actually actually if you think about it every single election since then has been the same yeah uh i think because he was vice president yeah yeah i think moving forward you'll always have that precedence now like the general audience or the general populace will know who they are it's like anything it's like the publishing industry the movie industry nobody wants to take a chance on what they don't know anymore they just go for the surefire thing star wars 18 politics is

following hollywood we're getting the biden versus trump sequel yeah yeah it's like well this is the franchise i'm familiar with it makes money oh no i hate that more than anything no no you want you want change you no yeah you got you got this 40 year old with really a lot of energy and great ideas you're gonna have to wait at least 30 40 years you need them old ancient okay well i mean you got jd vance that's coming in at 39 as a vice president that's kind of that's pretty young yeah that is uh i don't know if that's the youngest but yeah that's that's one of the younger one of the youngest not definitely that is. I don't know if that's the youngest, but yeah, that's pretty young. One of the youngest. Definitely not the youngest, I don't think.

A former enlisted guy? Gross! Kennedy was the youngest president, right? He was 39 or 41. How old was Kennedy? That's a great question. Yeah, it would have been late 30s, early 40s. I think he was the youngest president.

You got the nightmare breakup? Is that true? Ross Crowe served in the Navy for four years oh hey he isn't hey so he was ross pro was a navy man i i get it now my so my parents are boomers i'm i would imagine most of our all of our parents are boomers i get it now when like clinton came to office why that was such a big deal because that was the boomer generation's first time that they had their guy in power and as millennials uh and i'm you know even there's gen x but they're not real um um but like as a millennial i get it now why my parents generation were so eager republicans or democrats just to get someone from their generation into power and i feel like our generation is having to wait longer than usual to have one of ours in power

oh yeah and and these two gold guys running for president it's no different it's a representation of the american workforce like these people will not relinquish their power they gotta go just retire sit in a recliner watch fox news and die please jesus christ i'll applaud that jfk was 43 when he became president and that was the youngest president ever i don't know if it was clinton clinton was like clinton was i remember it go clinton was in his early 40s if i recall was he really he's that young yeah and obama he's a boomer but he's like a younger boomer so i want to see yeah i want to say he was like in the mid 40s yeah yeah it was like mid 40s it was like 47 i think 36 42 42 so So JFK by one year.

I was wrong. You know, JFK and Theodore Roosevelt both have something in common. They died? A crazy person shot him. Jesus Christ. See? I was right, Brandon. Stop shaking your head.

Well, to be fair. To be fair. Everyone dies. I mean, we don't exactly know if the guy who shot JFK was crazy. Might have just been doing his job. So the majority of these attempted or successful political assassinations in American history, like I said, were crazy people. JFK and Lincoln were, that leans more on the politically motivated side. He should have just let the Federal Reserve take over. He'd still be alive.

Not now, but. Lay down and take it like that woman who died in your brother's car and jabba quit it no one's gonna get that reference those are good those are the best jokes there's gonna be four people in the comments like i get that yeah you did a ted kennedy joke it goes to the top they've been waiting for that so what is the first assassination well we'll just do a quick history lesson from mr jack mandeville for successful assassination i'm i'm by no means a subject matter expert on this but coincidentally a few months ago i was doing research we wrote and

shot one of the episodes i'm doing for my new history uh youtube channel that uh a few guys around me right now encouraged no i'm really thank you guys i'm so proud dude i'm so proud of you because you sent roughs and you like it's getting you working with we got three episodes shot i'm gonna do one more i want to i just want to have some stuff to to have just in case i'm traveling or whatever and then we're gonna release anyways i was doing a read one of the subjects i'm doing is on robert todd lincoln abraham lincoln's son who's arguably one of the most unluckiest in american history but um so the first successful assassination attempt was on abraham lincoln uh we all know what happened there but that was uh that was politically motivated

john roach booth his assassin was it was purely politically motivated which is wild because like the there were the rest of the assassination. It was a conspiracy. There were a few of them involved with that. The only person who followed through with it was John Wilkes Booth. John Wilkes Booth. Because they were supposed to take out Stanton, right? Stanton, the vice president. That was a f***ing.

He tried, but he just wasn't successful with it. What happened? One guy got pulled. I don't know. They were trying to take out the entire cabinet, essentially. Oh, shit. It was a conspiracy. This is like a coup, an actual coup yeah so there i think there was eight or nine people

that went to trial and i think like eight of them were hung for it uh but it was um it was a pure conspiracy uh that was led by a actor of all people um and by the way the the booth family apparently famous they were acting royalty like i don't know what the modern equivalent would be like who's like like they were tom cruise the baldwins the ball they were just well i mean the baldwins did kill someone yeah these goddamn actors and edwin booth the oldest brother who was by far the most accomplished of all the hemsworths it's like chris henson yes yeah taking out yeah but the old edwin booth was a pure actor in the sense that he didn't get involved with politics he stayed out of that

stuff he just was on stage um where john wilkes uh he got really obsessed about abraham lincoln there at the end you don't say yeah anyway so that was the first one politically motivated the second presidential successful presidential assassination was james garfield um that was a guy named charles gateau who was batshit crazy charles gateau was the guy uh he had like he worked at a very low level in the administration but in his head garfield had promised him all these cabinet positions and everything, but he was just like a crazy guy that. Oh,

so he, they actually had zero communication. It was just in his head. All this. Yeah. He's like the guy that like keeps texting you for like two years straight, having a conversation with him and you never respond, but he thinks that like you're in love with him.

And then he drives, you know, across state lines to try to hurt you that's what charles gateau did to james garfield did you shoot him i don't even know this one this is like i've never googled assassinations he shot garfield um and uh robert todd lincoln was there when his dad died uh and robert todd lincoln was there for the shooting of Charles Coteau as well. Cause he worked, he was in the Garfield cabinet. Didn't he go to try to save somebody at some point?

I can't remember what that someone's son that he got saved off a train. That was Edwin. Edwin booth saved Robert Todd Lincoln's life. Like five months before John Wilkes Booth assassinated his dad. That's what I was. Yeah. Crazy shit. Dude, they should make a movie about like that's the craziest story ever real life that's like the real life forrest gump yeah no that's like but that's like if freaking it that's like if uh one of the baldwin brothers like saved hunter biden's life and then one of

the other bald probably alec because he's already killed but alec goes and takes care of donald like what the just happened it's like baron trump being saved by stephen baldwin like wait a second yeah off the tracks little hand reaches yeah and that's the thing is robert todd lincoln recognized edwin booth like this is the most famous actor in america back then they didn't give a who the president's kids were so everyone boosts like you have to save some dude's life was president's kid um and then so the next one the next successful attempt how do you kill it was it just gun it's gunshot yeah uh i think he got him in the stomach and uh 1800s you die yeah and that he died of uh no that was mckinley uh but he it took him a while to die yeah so mckinley uh died of sepsis so back then they tried to amputate your stomach it didn't

work yeah yeah hey later back in when was mckinley like 1910 uh mckinley was 18 oh no um mckinley was like 1901 was his assassination he 1898 he was killed like during the third year of his presidency guess who else was there for the hat yep 1901 robert todd lincoln was there for that one too uh it was at the world expo mckinley was he invited robert todd robert at that point i would never have that guy around anything this guy's an inside that would he's a clinton at that he's the umbrella guy at the jfa thing literally it's the clinton who's like why is he always there and people dying yeah robert todd lincoln at that point he had retired from he was a very accomplished diplomat very accomplished he was the secretary of

war which was a big position very accomplished guy arguably other than being present more accomplished did more than his father did um but again like that guy was just a bad luck charm and he had retired from public life because he's like i'm there's a lot more shit that happened with him too that i won't even get into but um yeah he retired from public life but mckinley's like hey man everyone like your old republican dad i'm a republican why don't you come out to this expo and then mckinley got shot he's like the slender man of history always there in the background of a photo somewhere yeah

and then the guy the guy who shot McKinley you could call it politically motivated but he was like an anarchist and a nut job because most anarchists are nut job except for Neil Pert he's awesome man he wrote all them freaking rush songs and glittering prizes and endless compromises.

Shot to the illusion of integrity. What the fuck does that mean? Only Neil Peart knows what that means. And you, Jack. Yeah. So wait, that guy was just crazy and? I mean, he was an anarchist. So what was his reasoning behind it?

I couldn't tell you. McKinley. You'd have to figure out the rush. If you want to talk about deep state, McKinley was arguably the first deep state president because the first American, not the first, but the biggest, the first big American conspiracy that ever happened was the bombing of the USS Maine and our then involvement in the spanish-american war and their conspiracy is that we bombed the uss main ourselves so we could justify because it was u.s policy like spain had two strongholds left in our part of the world puerto rico and cuba and america was hell-bent it was it'd been our policy for 80 years at that point that we need to get these European out of our area. And the conspiracy is that McKinley bombed the USS Maine on purpose just so he could justify

pushing Spain out of Cuba and Puerto Rico. Or at the very least, the idea was that, you know, if there was a, you know, cigarette goes in the wrong direction, it blows up anyway. The entire war department's like, oh, oh, that. Yeah, we're doing that now. They blew it up. i want to play with these toys we got gatling guns now the engine blew up that didn't someone confirm it or no one confirmed anything we just talked about that like the accusation was that spain bombed the u.s's main but there's not a there was no incentive for spain to do something like that they were already their military was already

crumbling like that they that military was already crumbling. There's no reason why the government of Spain would have sanctioned a terrorist bombing on a U.S. naval ship. Don't fuck with the ships, dude. Don't fuck with America's boats. To be fair, they could have easily said that about Pearl Harbor, too.

Why in the fuck would they ever... Jesus Christ! Why are those white guys flying rising sun planes right there it's exactly what they did 19 it's imperial japan not modern japan oh that's right yeah yeah yeah the twink air force man the. The UU Air Force. Yeah. Yeah. And so, and then, then the next attempted, not non-successful on this, you know, arguably I don't want to, you know, everyone's, you know, I, and I don't mean to make this political, but everyone's all, you know, people that are love Trump are really like, this is the

most bad-ass thing ever. I'm like, most bad-ass thing ever was the attempt on Teddy Roosevelt. Nothing comes close to that. Cause didn't it hit the speech? Yeah. Yep. And they, they still have the papers from a speech with a bullet hole in it.

Cool. Hit him in the lower, lower chest or stomach. And that gets right back up, stands up and says something.'m paraphrasing it'll take a lot more than a bullet to kill a bull moose and finished his speech and then didn't get elected and the guy who shot him yeah exactly the guy who shot him a nut job he was having dreams that president mckinley was telling him to avenge his death by killing teddy roosevelt

so that's why he was a shopkeeper and uh his name was shank or shrank or something like that you know what jared told me i don't know if i want to hear it after this follow up on that conversation i put my my beloved dog down the love of my life my dog taco i put him down to taco and and pour one out for taco yeah i think it's one of the best jared like invited me to his place and i show up to his place and he goes hey man i found pictures of puppies on tacos hard drive okay that made you laugh it completely broke me out of my sadness i was like what the it's like the rick and morty it's like let them have the bulldog they remember not the bulldog they remember, not the bulldog he was. Jesus Christ. And his dad was sitting right there and his dad's like,

Jesus Christ. Oh, it's such a good bit. Yeah. It did. It made me laugh and took me out of the sadness. Holy shit. But that was slander. My dog was not a I swear to God, man.

My dog did not make a puppy. I'm not sure. No, I monitored his freaking computer usage, man. You gotta keep a watch on him. That's how I found out Bulldogs have the mouth.

What the fuck? It's like looking at an alien autopsy. I mean, they are British. That's a good joke, too. That's why they have the teeth. They're British. They're on an island. Their family tree looks like a telephone pole. Dave, pull up

Bulldogs the top of their mouths. They're jacked up. Yeah. I should call her. Yeah. Old Toothy McGee. Yeah, so Roosevelt was unsuccessful. It's funny you say, like, still lost the election.

That was what, as you said he did the entire speech after yeah he completed his speech and lived that roosevelt was a big man he used to eat like he used to eat like uh four pounds of bacon and like a dozen eggs and a like a pot of coffee like roge he's literally me oh yeah roosevelt was roosevelt was a burly man just funny like if you if you want to lose complete faith in the third like the idea of a third party just know that after two terms roosevelt tried running third party and failed yeah teddy roosevelt couldn't do it damn yeah and never gonna happen but you know hey jill stein might make it get two percent of the votes gonna crush

it can't wait two% would be a victory. They'd be letting loose the balloons at midnight. Yeah. I hate how true that is. She's my president in Vermont. So Teddy is probably one of my favorites just for the Rough Riders. Was the pig

the war? Who did the war on pigs? The Bay of Pigs? Oh, that was Kennedy. I was way off. Never mind. Which, that could be Who did the War on Pigs? What is it? The Bay of Pigs? The Bay of Pigs. Oh, that's Kennedy. That was Kennedy. I was way off. Never mind.

Which, that could be, that's part of the conspiracy of why he was killed. The Bay of Pigs was an utter failure. People forget with Kennedy, we glamorize and romanticize him now, and we hold him on this high pedestal. Marilyn Monroe romanticized him then. Yes. Oh, and his brother bobby yeah both those guys were tagging her uh at least they kept it in the family they

kept it in the family yeah those kennedy boys uh um they're uh the reason why kennedy was campaigning so hard in texas the reason why he was down here in the first place where he got shot in dallas was there was a very good chance he might have lost Texas. He had up a lot of things in his chance at winning reelection was not safe. So he was campaigning really hard. People forget like his presidency wasn't that successful. It's Richard Nixon was a piece of shit, but he had a more successful presidency than JFK did. And I'm not just talking about the time of his presidency.

He actually got a lot more done than Kennedy ever did. Does this stuff because you have like JFK, the moon landing and what? Well, JFK, he was later. I thought JFK was started. Moon landing was 19 to JFK's credit. He is the one that really started the program. Yeah, he's the one that encouraged our venture into into space so he did do a lot of great things but the bay of pigs was like one of the most colossal ups by an american president ever in my in my opinion though

some of the best things kennedy ever did was the things that he didn't do the things that he blocked like a lot of the the central banking stuff a lot of things that he would not allow to continue to go forward taking us off the gold standard shit like that which is great you see it a lot that people that come from these aristocratic generationally wealthy you know new england northeastern families teddy roosevelt was one of those guys they're the ones that want to bust the system down the most because they grew up in it they know how it works and if you get the right one a jfk or a teddy roosevelt those people genuinely cared about the common man and they had the they came from the background to be able to do something about it um when you say uh the central banking that jfk bus or he stopped it what do you

mean by that that's actually one of the conspiracies as to why he was axed is he was basically throwing up a big brick wall as far as like taking us off of the gold standard and different things like that that had to do with the Federal Reserve. No shit. And so whenever you go against the Federal Reserve, I mean Saddam learned, Gaddafi learned, like yeah, don't

fuck with the central bank. You will be replaced very quickly. See, that's the shit i love learning because i don't know a lot of this stuff i'm not a huge history nerd i get you nick brandon apparently cody i don't know how much history you go like a little bit but well you get somewhere your guys's knowledge on that shit i'm like okay let okay, I'm going to just shut the fuck up. Hey, it's my autism. I get to pick the special interests. Well, I don't know shit about cameras. It all equals out. I got that

all day long. I don't know shit about oppressing minorities. Yeah, Cody King over here. You guys want to talk about cop stuff and beating up minorities. I am all day, but I'm actually curious to hear your thoughts about the assassination from your

your perspective so as somebody who's done swat and different things like that like what what was your thought on the way that the the snipers and counter sniping operations were there i think it comes down to miscommunication between the different people who are there because the secret service they didn't have enough people to watch things and i'm not blaming it on completely but they always bring in local law enforcement to do like all the auxiliary stuff around the outside and people forget former presidents don't have the same details that active presidents do and then it's it's a complete shit show you're playing the telephone game because not everyone might be on the same radio channel like not everyone's communicating properly because you're dealing with just like

several agencies so they probably had a sheriff's department there. They probably had state police there. They probably had local police there and they're all trying to communicate with the secret service. They keep John on the phone. Yeah. Like get this person, get this person.

There's someone up there. There's someone out there. And then, so there was probably like a huge lack of communication going on between all these like five or six different agencies, federal and local, just like trying to get their shit together. I mean,

my whole thing is that if he was wearing just a shitty Party City cop outfit with patches and shit, we might be having a different conversation. If he could have gotten a good rifle up there, not just a red dot. Not having to the attention that was drawn to him, which

caused him to take a hurried shot. No counter sniper would take a shot on a guy who's wearing a police uniform without having a hundred percent confirmation yeah so the moral of the story is don't wear demolition ranch shirts when you're doing that shit a you're just it makes you a dick but b it's the same thing as like you know in the military if you're walking around with a clipboard or a wrench and you're walking fast like you have something to do no one's gonna no one's gonna with you our ladder if you're walking around with a clipboard or a wrench and you're walking fast, like you have something to do, no one's going to, no one's going to with you are ladder. If you're carrying a ladder anywhere and like,

like no one's going to own that goes for anything. If you own what you're doing, if you just have an air of confidence, most people aren't going to stop you with your security or whatever. You just walk in. Say, let's be really clear here that we're not giving tips. No,

God, like no, no, no. If you want to sham in the military, we got you all day long. I know how to give tips, man. I'm an actor.

John Willis Booth was an actor. We know what we're doing, dude. I would stop you, Jack. Yeah. I wouldn't get that far. I wouldn't get that far. That's a job for Alec Baldwin, right? Well, it's like the whitest kids you know skit.

You remember? You can't say this. Oh, God, yeah. But if you put a mortar here, you can get a shot directly into the wire. But I can tell you remember you can't say this oh god yeah but if you put a mortar here you can get a shot directly into the wire but i can tell you that you can't say it you can't say that i don't tell but it is but i can't say from the top of this building because that's its own sentence the communication with military you had when you overseas, because you don't communicate with any other branch or unit outside your own company. So you're not talking like on radios, you probably experience the same. You don't know what other people are doing. I remember we took rounds overhead.

They didn't hit us. And we were just parallel street. They started shooting. We're like, who the fuck is shooting over here? Mark 19s, we heard explosions, 50 Cal flying over. We're like, hey, what the fuck? What the fuck? And is we heard explosions, 50 Cal flying over. I'm like, Hey, what the, what the, and then we had,

I forget how it went. It was like, we called up to our command and they had a relay to the other unit, a company or battalion. It was a different battalion. Like, Hey, those are good guys over there.

Oh, check your FBCB too. Oh, they're not popping up on our FBCB too. Oh shit. We won't shoot over there. Sorry. That's at least

nice that you have the the luxury i guess of not doing near pier where you can hear it and hear like oh that's m2s and mark 19s those are our guys let's get on comms right now you get really good at distinguishing a like friendly fire from bad guy fire right marty that's what i hear you've been marty marty's done more deployments as a journalist than he has as a freaking soul as army ranger that guy marty like he's one of those journalists that that guy like was putting himself in the hairy ass shit with just a pen in his hand dude that i don't feel the pen is mightier than the sword until you get shot. Period or stabbed.

That sounds like a quote from a bad swordsman like that. But in war, it's different. And then I imagine at the local level to the federal level, you have no agencies talking. So Secret Service to FBI to CIA to. And imagine these guys are like the Secret Service details having to deal with like different bump sheriff's departments every week. Yeah, different standards. Exactly. Not only that, you probably have like a lot of the brass, like a bunch of sergeants, lieutenants who are like, we want to protect Trump.

And they're micromanaging each one of these dudes who are supposed to be on the ground protecting Trump. And they just there's just nothing going past and nothing getting like rerouted to everyone who needs to know something. All different radio channels, all different lines of miscommunication. So it was a... And to Cody, to really harp on that, imagine you can't do anything without... If your boss says, do not do anything unless you coordinate with me first so you can see something, then you have to run that up your chain of command. Yeah.

Well, I feel like, and I'm not trying to say the wrong thing here, but I feel like I read somewhere on Twitter, which is the source of all information, someone was saying the snipers, the SWAT team, the local SWAT team was supposed to be on the roof that the shooter was on. And so the counter snipers got confused because they saw someone with a rifle and it just like confused them for a couple seconds there and they didn't know what was going on and i'm not

saying that's real information i just feel like i read that somewhere which is understandable because they're like oh our guys are supposed to be on that roof what the is this guy doing demolition ranch sure because i think his head was popping over with a rifle and they're like we don't want to kill a local SWAT guy who's supposed to be on that roof. Because again, this is super early. It's a little too early to give definitive information. But I heard the same thing.

I heard that the building that he was on was the staging building and cops poured out of it after shots started getting fired. Wait, what? Yeah. I did not know that. That's what I was told. And again, this is all like,

I could be spreading misinformation, but that's what I heard. This is the hardest part. Do your research. We did not know that. That's what I was told. And again, this is all like I could be spreading misinformation, but that's what I heard. Do your research. We should start with that. We'll start with that. Actually, Dave just put a clip in there. Do your research before going into this. We're idiots. We're drinking. We started drinking at 12 today. That journalist over there knows the process

of getting that information. Yeah. Marty's like, I've got this on lockdown. But it is. It's understanding each part of this process is difficult we are just going off of the seat of our pants right now of what we've know we do know the fbi or sorry secret service agency was the one that said it was too slanty it was was the director of the CIA said that. No, sorry. Sorry.

Secret service. Secret service. Excuse me. But like I said, the roof was to the FBI. Wait, the secret service. Secret service. It was the director, right? Came out today.

Yeah. Was it yesterday? Yeah, I think it was yesterday. But yeah, the director of the Secret Service. Yeah. It said the rooftop was slanted. Too slanted. And everybody just kept sharing the screenshots of the slanted. Yeah. The rooftop was too slanted. Too slanted. And everybody just kept sharing the screenshots

of the slanted roofs that the actual counter snipers were on. Like how? What? It is amazing. I know when I got it, I had people like, oh, this seems staged or whatever.

I got texts. I was like, that shot's at minimum 100 yards because you're not getting that close. I was like, at minimum 100 yards. But how the f*** is that a thing? I thought it was going to be even further, but then it's like 150 yards. Yeah, 100 yards is not far away. No, no, that's basic training.

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So he didn't have his shot completely lined up. And that's why I missed so many times, which which which. Yeah, it's not confirmed. But it's still a that play that in my head makes sense of a cop popping up and be like, oh, and the guy like points gun goes like this. He just turns fires off rounds and then misses by him turning it just everything miraculously aligned for that one moment to him because that you've seen the overhead shot right i know we've shared it in the groups it's a line of if he just was looking straight oh yeah your head or his head versus that turn is the only reason that round missed and that's absolutely insane wild especially on a red

piece of shit gun like insane don't pour shame don't pour shame it was it was crazy it's just an absolute insane experience and it didn't register until i started what like the next day it really registered of how crazy that event was because in my head i'm retarded so i was like oh man that's a meme and it was just like everything a meme because the social media how he was like it certainly was crazy and i don't want to detract from like how terrible it is for anybody to be thinking of even doing that to a political official but i think we come from a generation that uh we've lived our entire lives where that has never been something we thought about but when you look at the rate of attempted or successful assassinations before this it was every 15 to 20 years this was something that was happening

because you would have now there is attempted and then there is people they stopped it they seem like a background i know obama had like three uh george bush had those were threats but like right so uh gerald ford after kennedy went through two attempted assassinations, one of them, a cult member, part of the Manson family, a crazy person. And and that attack was stopped by a former Marine Vietnam veteran named Oliver Sipple. Oliver Sipple saw her name was Froman. Kinky Fromans. No, something from Wigley from one of those weird manson family names um uh he saw her present the gun he he grabbed the the the gun away from her and and saved the president's life basically and uh oliver simple at that that time was like a closeted gay guy.

And Harvey Milk, who was the first publicly elected gay official, Harvey Milk really fucked him over big time. And basically, like, because he was so obsessed with, like, saying a gay guy saved the president's life, he outed Oliver Sipple. And it, like, just created chaos in Oliver Sipple's life because you know he wasn't openly out his mother kind of like disowned him he like died sadly in the 80s from like diabetes he just had a kind of a sad ending to his life because harvey milk wanted to make a you know point out of him but in a good way he meant well but he meant well but it was just like this is the 70s no i'm not yeah dude i'm from alabama dude this isn't gonna fly well with my family it's

the key and pill skit where it keeps talking about the and the gay community and it cuts to the guy that's just like he's like anytime they say gay the camera cuts to a key, I think. Yeah. What? Yeah. And then he's like moving out of the way and the camera refines him. And then the last attempt after that was a crazy person. Like we said, he was a guy that was a little obsessed with, a little too much obsessed with Catcher in the Rye, like the guy who shot Lennon, Mark David Chapman. And he thought Jodie Foster was his girlfriend.

And, you know, she said one negative thing about the president of the United States. And he thought.odie Foster was his girlfriend and you know she said one negative thing about the president of the United States and we thought you didn't know that no yeah I will say this just treat everything if I have this face go in depth because I I have no idea on any of this and I'm sure 90% of you are like so huh John Hinckley the the guy who shot uh Ronald Reagan when he was in office, was legitimately like that was his thing. He wanted to impress the actress Jodie Foster. That wasn't just a random attack on Jodie Foster. She just said, she's like, I don't like Reagan.

So he's like, I don't like him either now. I love Jodie Foster. The original simp. Yeah. Which, you know, he's out of prison now, and he's making bluegrass music. Yeah, he got released like, what, two, three years ago? He's got a YouTube channel. Yeah.

I want to get him on the channel because I want to do the recreation of the Reagan shooting because I have the gun. Well, you can have him on the podcast and that. What do you mean you have the gun? I don't have the exact gun, but I have the exact same model, caliber, everything. Yeah, I bought it specifically to do a recreation because the Reagan shooting is an an interesting one to me color me impressed that he made it out period like alive and then out of gel after trying to oh he got dog piled oh yeah it's a shitty little 22 lr revolver you want to know one of the most wholesome stories from the reagan attempt was he people forget he almost died and there was actually a crisis happening at the white house because the george hw bush was like overseas or gone or

something like that there was some sort of like a session a succession crisis happening where the the uh speaker of the house at the time basically claimed that he was in charge that's a whole different thing but reagan's like reagan came extremely close to dying people have no idea and he's getting operated on these doctors and i think it was in georgetown there yeah and reagan looks up to the doctor he's like are you are you a republican or a democrat and the doctor says sir everybody today is a republican just a wholesome 80s story. If that was said now on X or anything like that, nobody would believe it.

Yeah, take Tom Pant and shoot him in the head. Yeah, because I think that was the original quote. Something along the lines. It might have been that or it might have been the one I heard was, well, before he goes under. Oh, I hope you voted for me. You're right.

I hope you're all Republicans. Yeah, yeah. That's what he said, yeah. And then the one the the one before that i think before he got operated on it was uh he was talking to his wife nancy reagan they said like something along the lines of not paraphrasing but he's like nancy i should have ducked yeah the guy was a one-liner machine even while currently shot and then a couple years later he's given given a speech in Berlin and a balloon popped

and he just stops his speech and goes, you missed me. Reagan was the lovable grandfather of the country. Yeah. The great communicator. Introduced crack to the inner city. All that stuff.

Oh yeah. Jack's like, here's his positives. Also, here is all the negatives that this dude did. God, that reminds me of this, Jack. I had to show you. Ronald Reagan with black communities. She needed this, Brad. It's a chiropractor.

And so, okay, wait, go back. So this dude, I just want to know his mindset is he he's on crazy meds right now i'm assuming who the guy that tried to assassinate him i actually i don't know because he's been in prison since it happened so i mean it's that's been decades they have to have a regiment for him to get out and then like because i mean he did kill a man uh he he killed uh the secret service agent i believe it was uh well uh james secret service james brady was i he was uh press secretary something he he he got paralyzed uh because uh hit him in the head he was paralyzed because they named that i believe it was the 1994 brady bill after him yeah it basically set up our current system for an uh nics background checks and everything for

purchasing a firearm no shit so okay i'm more surprised that he got he's out then did they did he plead crazy how do you go into trial with that dude and not give a life sentence hey your honor, my client is just in love with Jodie Foster. You can't really blame him. I wouldn't start an assassination defense with, you can't really blame

the guy. Jodie Foster doesn't like Reagan. My client loves Jodie Foster. You don't understand this, your honor? It's weird you're not a lawyer. A squared plus B squared equals C squared. I don't know what to tell you, brother. You call her a hot dog loving whore? A hot dog strutting floozy, man.

My client pleads. He was just a little silly that day. He's just a silly goose? He's just a silly goose, dude. I'm sorry. The flow of the show was interrupted by Jack's bladder. Thanks, Jack. Yeah, I got an old man pee-pee bladder.

Thank you for that. And this is Marty. Marty, say hi. You gotta say hi. Hi. I'm here for a talk about dead presidents and other things. That's how we're gonna intro the show. Some of them survived. I mean, none of them actually are still alive. Oh, that's true. Jake and Lincoln were the most interesting parts of the ones actually are still alive oh that's true yeah

Lincoln were the most interesting parts of the story for me thing about Lincoln's son are you kidding me that's yeah there's even more layers to it wait what was the most just wait till you find out about Robert Kennedy wait god damn it what was the most okay you said like there's more to it name two other situations with uh lincoln's son that you're like wow that's he's just a bad luck his well his when um uh his mother was already prone to the psychological situations she by the time so he outlived both uh all three of his younger brothers he outlived all of them uh one of them died uh in the white while lincoln was president so robert todd lincoln out

survived all of his younger brothers by the time uh by the time his dad was shot and so his mother was she cracked by the time lincoln was killed and by 18 and by the early 1870s uh he had to institutionalize her because she just was pure nuts besides that mrs lincoln how was the play exactly um but what would you give it on rock tomato audience score was not high yeah she splattered with blood she uh everyone's a critic tough audience can you imagine that being the freaking uh the the state but not bulletproof again another secret service failure um yeah but uh he instituted he was a lawyer very astute lawyer very accomplished lawyer he was taking care of her finances he had his mother's best interest in his heart but uh she escaped the loony bin and then

started running editorials uh running uh stuff on newspapers just basically talking shit about him when all he was trying to do was help his mom out this was the original free britney yeah yeah yeah and wait holy shit how okay wait how also his oldest son his oldest son who was named abraham died while he was um serving as the uh u.s ambassador to the uk how did he die uh it was was like one of the common diseases back then. Don't eat the fish and chips. Yeah. So he just had very bad luck. He was a bad luck charm. And then at the dedication of the Lincoln Memorial, I think it was 1921,

80-year-old Robert Todd Lincoln was there with former President Howard Taft and um and current president uh it was Wilson um and um miraculously both of them survived unfortunately yeah yeah Woodrow Wilson was a piece he's arguably the bit now uh take his presidency out right if you're looking just as a person he's arguably the biggest piece of shit we've ever had as president oh i was including his presidency yeah income tax the federal reserve like that guy was a the league of nations the original oh yeah no he'd like talk about a globalist piece of shit but anyway sorry yeah he was he was the most racist president we've ever had he used to do screenings like every week of the birth of a nation which by the way like even

by the standards of the day the critics were like this is kind of racist and he loved that shit basically it's just like a founding of the clan yeah it was a glorification of the clan so by the standards of the day most people were like this isn't a good movie which although i i will say i went back and watched that movie just for history's sake. It wasn't as bad as I thought. I thought it was going to be way worse just the way it was hyped up. It's still something that, I mean, if the president says that that's his favorite movie, that's a f***ing blag.

If it's bad, though, for that standard, because back in the day, when was this filmed? Birth of a nation i think was the late the late uh 19 teens teens yeah so in the teens they were highly restricted on if you look at it today and you're like oh it was kind of bad holy shit because they i remember uh the radio sequence that played over for the World of Wars that caused mass hysteria so that movie

when you say in 20 especially the shit we all watch if you watch the Aviator where he's trying to pitch it to the MPAA back in the day like trying to argue for why he should be allowed to show cleavage in a movie read the first edition of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory back in the day, trying to argue for why he should be allowed to show cleavage in a movie.

Read the first edition of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Oh yeah, the Oompa Loompas were basically like Is this a metaphor for how much Roald Dahl hates Africans? Their skin wasn't orange in the first edition. And he didn't skip around the term du jour.

For And he didn't skip around the term du jour for not qualified to use that one. Damn. Dude, old bugs are like, what a great movie. We're going to have to change that. Again, child's movie. We love it. Yeah, you could have just called him Jimim we talked about that the other day it's like why don't they just call him jim you do you know the story qualifiers are unnecessary they filmed principal in germany

for that movie do you they couldn't they and so all the oompa loompas they had to hire from like britain and france and the united states and stuff do youompas they had to hire from like Britain and France and the United States and stuff. Do you know why they couldn't hire any Germans to play Oompa Loompas? There weren't any. Because Hitler had eradicated the little people population of Germany. They couldn't get any local talent because Hitler had basically eradicated little people 40, 30, 40 years before that. There's like an 80-year-old midget sitting in an attic somewhere like, Oh, fool me once.

I ain't coming down for this shit. Oh, yeah, sure you want to put me in a chocolate factory. Fuck you. I heard that one before. I'm not getting in that chocolate train. You're going to sell me down that chocolate river holy shit it's just like you hear about some of these guys that uh didn't know that uh was it vietnam or china no japan japan didn't know that japan the last one was in like 1968 yeah

we've talked about it wild dude we talked about it a couple of times. It's a weird story. They were sending his family, like, you turned. You turned. Like, she's now on the imperial side. Or not the imperial, but American side and everything. I mean, at that point, it would just be modern Japanese. Like, the war was well over.

The hatchet was buried. Yeah. They were already into freaking Hello Kitty and baseball at that point. it would just be modern Japanese. Like, the war was well over. The hatchet was buried. Yeah. They were already into freaking Hello Kitty and baseball at that point. And anime. Lots of anime. God, they used to be a proper country. No, do you want to introduce our guest, by the way? I feel like we just kind of, like, shoved him in the middle of the podcast.

Sir Boyd Marty Scovel. And we've known each other. Damn. I'm in it now. Yeah. Going back. At least to, like, I don't know if it's late arc 15 days or early black rifle days yeah like somewhere in there 20 dude it has been both of you have

something big in common you've both been history channel hosts we did got something in common with elon i got something in common with jack yeah got shot in basic training i want to lead with that one because they oh yeah right these guys have never heard this story and I've never heard it personally. Because we've heard the story of how you got shot. Yes, but you got to tell the story about afterwards when you were home on leave. Okay, so do you guys want the full front to back story?

Go for it. All right, so it is the summer of 2005 and all right speed it up a little oh come on get started at 1905 the precursor to oif all right tolkien spend a fucking hour describing a lake it's the summer of 2005 i'm in week five of infantry oh sit basic training on fort Benning. We're on main post on the known distance range, otherwise known as the KD range. Charlie 219, what was your? I was Charlie 254.

No, I was Alpha 254 until I got shot, and then I had to go to Charlie 254. So I graduated Charlie 254. So we're out at the range. It's one of those really hot. It's the week of 4th of July, so it's hot as balls on Fort Benning. It's one of those ones where they're having everybody take their kit off and stuff like that. We're doing the known distance one.

It's that thing where they use a pop-up target, and everybody's behind the berm, and they'll mark the target for you and then put it back up. Do you think that, oh, Marty, you got shot because you were behind the berm and they were shooting? No. Well, reference on that for people who don't know. In basic training, how far do you have to do it's

like 300 yards we were i know on that part of the one we were on the 200 meter line so you know for that we're 200 meters you as a soldier in basic training for infantry you have this giant berm and then it's like as you have uh almost like half a steel roll and the size of this table you know it's a big white thing and you they'll mark it with these plastic markers of where your shots hit and you raise it up you close stuff off and then pulling butts yeah you're and then you put it back up and then you just wait boring ass thing nothing's done other than put holes in the target cover it up kick it back up podcasts are great because they help us make the most out of our routine.

We learn about the fall of the Ottoman Empire while we drive, keep up with news while we take the dog for a walk, or turn folding laundry into a comedy show. Make the most out of your time with the PC Insider's World Elite MasterCard, a credit card that can get you unlimited free grocery delivery and the most PC optimum points on everyday purchases. The PC Insiders World Elite MasterCard, the card for living unlimited. Conditions apply to all benefits. Visit pcfinancial.ca for details. So I was not behind that burn marking targets, which would be the thing that I think most people

would jump to. I was up on the 200 meter line and we're just sitting there waiting for the targets to be marked. Holy shit. Yeah. I forgot you're out in the open yeah complete wide open also on the katie range on main post fort benning almost every range complex on any military base in the world they have berms in between the ranges this one had just a tree line no berms yep so somebody in the range next door while i'm sitting there on the 200 meter line waiting for my target to be marked for all online uh somebody and i found this out later somebody over there they're doing the three to five second rushes live fire so apparently what this kid did was he you know did his three to five second rush brought his rifle up squeeze off his rounds and then

instead of doing what you're supposed to do which is put the selector switch back on safe go back to the lower ready and then tucker tucker your next three to five seconds he did us flip the selector switch to three round burst nice decided not to remove his finger from the trigger well kept it on the trigger and instead of going to the low ready he daddy shotgunned it and tucker tucker tuck it i guess tripped on a route somewhere and squeezed off three rounds flashback to marty at the 200 meter line standing there waiting for his target to be marked i feel something just like slap my shoulder like in a way like have you ever felt a slap but also feels like you were penetrated at the same time yeah scout master kevin yeah yeah so flashbacks yeah so it was something like that to where at first uh it Scoutmaster Kevin. Yeah. Flashbacks. Yeah. So it was something like that to where at first it was BDUs at the time.

I like pulled it up and I saw a perfect little hole right there just seeing what it was. And at first I'm like, oh, Spider B, something like that. But my initial thought was I got shot. But that immediately was like, no, Spider B, something like that. And I sat there and tried to talk myself out of your shot because that's ridiculous. Nobody gets shot in music training. Why is my back wet? Right?

Oh, no. And then I, yeah, I pulled it up again to check because I could start to feel my shoulder start to throb a little bit and now there's like a little perfect little ring of blood. At this point, I like looked to the drill sergeant. His name is Drill Sergeant McGinnis. I hope he sees this. He was a 375 Ranger.

I wanted to be a Ranger. I joined the Army with a Ranger contract. I wanted to be a ranger so bad so i looked up this guy who's also the biggest dick in the world the one person that you didn't want to tell i got shot drill sergeant um i say that i'm like a drill sergeant i think i got shot and he like doesn't even fully turn around he just like turns his head he's's like, I don't drink water. He was over the day. It was hot. He's a miserable drill sergeant.

And I then. It is, for the viewers out there, for everyone that has not done basic, Brandon can tell you this. How much fear you have of drill sergeants. Legitimate fear. You don't want to fuck with these dudes. All these guys were fresh back from OIF1. Legitimate fear. You don't want to fuck with these dudes. These are like... All these guys were fresh back from OIF-1.

This is 05. They're all fresh back from OIF-1. These are like the first combat veterans the Army's had. What year did you go? 2005. What month? Like the summertime.

Oh shit, I got... Right after high school. No shit, I got out before you went in. Like, yeah, my basic ended before you got... Okay, random. Okay, go. You're that much older than me. Jeez. I know that i was like wait oh five what uh yeah so um felt that so i tell him and he tells me to like basically shut the up and drink water and then i'm like okay before i argue with the drill start let me like verify here and i like pull up my top up again i look and i'm and I'm like, okay, my shoulder definitely hurts, and now there's a bigger spot of blood at this point.

It's a big, it's bleeding. And I'm like, whether I got shot or not, there's a problem. That sounds like it was a piece of glass. Honestly, if you were shot with an AR-15, you would be identified through DNA alone. It sounds like it was staged, really, I think. It's funny. I was actually accused of that later. Are you shitting me? i'm not joking jesus christ

um the uh so i i hit i tell him again i'm like drill sergeant i really think i got shot like this like and he like started he like just looks at luke looks over his shoulder again he's like private starts like muttering under his breath fucking privates like stomps over gets to where he can see like the, he's like, holy shit, Private, you did get shot. It was like he's happy. It was like I brought joy to his day. You're like, damn, son, alright. The first thing

and anybody that's ever been in the military will appreciate the first thing out of his mouth after like holy shit, you did get shot, was he told me to literally take a knee and drink water. Like, literally was like, take a knee and drink water, and then got on the phone, and I like, did what I told, I like took a knee and drink water like literally was like take a knee and drink water and then got on the phone and i like did what i told i like took a knee and like started sipping on my camelback they weren't even real camelbacks they were the hoses that connected to the canteens at the time there wasn't actual camelbacks and uh i like you're like yeah i was just like oh

roger roger this is saving my life yeah should i lay down he gets on the radio they got these little walkie-talkies. He's like, hey, I just, like, private school and just got shot. And he's, like, laughing to himself. This is hysterical. All these other guys, fresh back out of OIF1, they start doing three to five second pounds over there. They all think they're, like, going to, like, we're in the shit again. There's an active shooter.

There's, like, you know, something going on here. And so they all come over. They help the whole rest of the base training company to, like their faces in the dirt and stuff everybody else's face is in the dirt looking at me and i'm still on a knee like up above everybody's like sipping on my water um they get over and they start looking at me taking my top off so like yeah he got shot and they start calling for like medics and all this other stuff before the first medic gets there we had this one guy with us he was a sergeant he was a staff sergeant but he didn't have his like drill sergeant hat yet i guess he was waiting to go to drill sergeant school so he didn't he wasn't like a fully rated

drill sergeant yet but he was there just with as like an nco and he could see the bulge it was a very shallow it was like as if you know somebody almost online with me shot it was a very shallow it was like as if you know somebody almost online with me shot it was a very shallow when in um he could see the bulge in my skin from the bullet he's like oh i can see we could probably get that he literally took his barber tool out and used it yeah i'm not even making this up like this is documented in my medical records like i'm not even making this up he used it to knead the bullet out towards the hole and then grabbed it out and like Literally handed me was like here you can give that to your grandkids someday. Do you still have it? Yes, that's Brad. Yeah Jesus Christ still in the same like little medical container that the surgeon later who's very upset with this not drill sergeant

And literally the again, I'm not making this up before he pulled out his gerber tool he was like don't worry i'm cls qualified it's which stands for combat lifesaver again for the not like you can't make this stuff up like he literally said not an actual medic he went to like six hours of classes like knows basically i was a boy scout first class and i've got my first aid merit badge. And so they do that. At that point, the first people come up is, like, the range control medics, which are, like, these two E4s that have not deployed. They've done nothing but go to, like, their 68 whiskey training. This is terrifying to them because the only thing they have treated

in their entire military careers is, like, dehydration. Yeah. They're like, we know how to bring your core temp down, but this is way outside of her we know how to silver bullet you and that's about yeah they just took like a uh like a like janky ass pressure dressing and slapped it on my shoulder did nothing it was the most janky ass like they didn't know how to put it over a shoulder so that if you moved your arm it would stay in place and and then at that point all the ambulances like these government vehicles all started rolling

up they put me in the ambulance and um and brought me to the hospital and uh the they brought like the surgeon out and he's like where's the bullet and i'm like well it's right here sir like what was his reaction he was like how did you get that because he could clearly see by the way the bullet wound looked like the opposite gender's anatomy i was just a vagina you can say yeah i was gonna say yeah it looked like it was very obvious that something had went where it wasn't supposed to go and so he was like okay how did you get that like he was like angry like how the did you get that and i was like oh don't worry my drill started cls qualified because i thought i didn't know what that but like I just heard him say that so I repeated it and this you can imagine

like a military surgeon this is like a full bird colonel like military surgeon is just like so you're meaning to tell me that you're a drill sergeant I was like no he's not a drill sergeant he's like he's about to be a drill sergeant he's having a aneurysm right now I literally got into semantics with him over this I was like no he's not a drill sergeant he's having a aneurysm right now I literally got into semantics with him over this I was like no he's not a drill sergeant yet like he's gonna be though and the surgeon was like okay so you're not a drill sergeant

performed field surgery on you when we've got Martin Army right here like he performed field surgery on you and I'm like well I mean

when you put it that way it sounds kind of bad but like I didn't think it was surgery surgery I didn't get put under you know and then he's like okay and they started looking at it and they're like you should probably call your parents and they're like don't lead with you got shot and i like definitely led with i got shot freak my mom out mom um private so this is the part that jack wanted

me to get into so first of all this is week five this is two days before we're going to qualify on our rifles that's a big gate in basic training like if you don't qualify and something happens like you get hurt like this you will be a day one recycle whereas if you're qualified you'll be reinserted with a different company at like week six or whatever like post qualification it's week five when is yeah it's early like that yeah like week five week six damn i was retarded i thought it was week 3 it's like a it's like a save checkpoint essentially

yeah you start shooting in week 3 it's a different block it's a quick save yeah you didn't do the live fire portion I'm doing it for the

virgins the two way range I had to but the so we you know decide that I need to

go home on con leave which is like 30 days to let it heal up. I go and qualify. It took me four or five tries, but I did qualify with my off arm, with my dominant. I'm right eye dominant, right eye or right hand shooter. So I just shoot left handed, right eye. And it took me four or five times, but I did. Yeah, I did qualify just so I didn't have to be a day one recycle went home it was probably one of the greatest 30 days of my life because i didn't think that i was

going to uh uh get a chance like have that summer after my senior year or anything like that but now i'm coming home like basically a war hero um for small town south dakota This is basically a war hero. Oh, dude. Yeah, basically. It's like what we do with Brandon, but Brandon gets two. Yeah. I'm going to quit this podcast at some point. So he, I go home and there's like one night we just get real drunk

and somebody asks, I say something about getting, like somebody's asking about what basic training is like. I'm like, oh, you just get smoked a lot and and they're like what's getting smoked like and i was like let me show you i've got a fresh i've got a bandage on my shoulder it's still like pussing and bleeding every day the bandage i have to go to the er every two days to get the bandage switched out i'm like let me show you what it's like to get smoked apparently i don't particularly remember this but like i kind of i kind of remember that to get smoked apparently i don't particularly remember this but like i kind of i kind of remember that it happened but like i don't remember how long apparently for about a

half an hour i did mountain climbers push-ups flutter kicks like smoked myself you were showing how cool you were oh 100 is that basic training i stopped dude i came home and i stood at parade rest ordering m's, bro. Oh, I hate how accurate these statements are. Dude, you are the gayest human when you get back from baby. That's the worst. I'm an army in one. Yeah. Now you're just throwing that you got shot.

Dude, your ego is out of control at that point. And anyways, I had to go back. By the enemy? Well, I mean, I don't like them yeah like have you ever seen full metal jacket it might as well be the enemy like uh so i had to go into the er the next day and they had to swap it out i woke up hungover with my entire shirt drenched in blood oh it was bad they had to like take me into the er and get in the doctor was like wait a second you got a gunshot wound and you were doing what? Anyways, that was my base training experience. I came back, reinserted with Charlie 254, did fine, went to airborne school, got food poisoning on the second day of airborne school, had to recycle that.

Then I went to Ranger indoctrination program and fell off the fast rope tower two days before graduation. Wait, so everything you had to recycle through? Rip even. That's what you had in common with Jack. Now we know what you got in common with Cody. And then my first week in battalion, I caught one of my friend's trigger finger off in a striker. You did what?

His finger off on accident. Hold the, okay, wait, okay. So rewind. Okay, so Rip, this is Rip. I don't know what it's called now. Ah, RAS, Ranger Assessment Selection Program. So R.I.P. is five weeks long? At the time, it was four.

Four weeks long, and it just sucks. Yeah, it was just get your nuts kicked in for four weeks, yeah. And you fell, so you had to recycle that? No, I didn't recycle. So it was a similar deal as basic training. It was a similar deal as basic training. They were like, hey, I literally fell 35 feet because it was on the Chinook side

of the fast rope tower, so you have to reach out further to get to the rope. Basically, the guy that went down in front of me, the rope caught between his canteen and himself and he took the rope with him. So when I was rotating out, I had nothing for my feet to get onto. Your feet burn on the rope for about, sorry, your hands burn on the rope

for about 5 feet and then you just naturally let go. So I fell about 35 feet, then you just naturally let go so i fell about 35 feet bounced off the p-rock uh cracked a couple of ribs and then had a spiral fracture up like my tibia or something something in my leg there um and they similar deal that was my fourth rope i had to do one more to graduate in two days get my tan brain go to battalion or go to medical heal up for a couple months and then come back and do it all again. I already kind of felt like I got lucky up to this point. Like, I felt kind of like if somebody takes too close a look at me, they're just going to say, you don't pass.

Like, I was not exactly, like, future Delta Force commando. Okay? Like, nice guy. Probably not like the guy that you're picking on your A-team for taking down a building. Okay? So just want to be transparent there. So I felt like I'm already sneaking through as it is.

Maybe I should just get back up that tower and do that one last stroke. Get my tan brain and go try to prove myself. And so I did. Jesus. And that's actually how I ended up at First Ranger Battalion because the cadre saw that and were like, Oh, I respect that. And I got to go to the battalion everybody wants to go to cody's over here like i want to play skyrim i mean fair yeah i guess i fell off a rope at buds and hurt my back and just decided to go home and

play older school skyrim because it was 11 11 11 when that game came out and I was like, eh, this sucks. Had you been shot in basic training and had a sufficient amount of shame built up? I didn't get shot, no. Dude, you went up, you broke a couple ribs and were like, on your femur. I had a spiral fracture up my tibia,

the lower part of the leg, and then three hairline cracks in the ribs. So it was hard to breathe. Yeah. Not super comfortable to walk. And just went up and got it done. Yeah, they all let me go up. It was a gimme.

They're like, you just got to go up and slide down the rope. That's it. You don't have to do it with equipment on. You got to do five ropes to graduate. That's pretty cool, though. Yeah, the fifth rope is supposed to be full combat equipment. You're all going out at once. They let me just go up and go get the fifth rope. That's pretty cool, though. Yeah, the fifth rope is supposed to be, like, full combat equipment. You're all going out at once. They let me just go up and, like, go get your fifth rope.

If you're willing to do it, like, go up there and just knock it out. So, yeah. And then they put you at Benning for your duty station? No, I went to Savannah, Georgia. Oh, good, good, good. Okay. I got hooked up. Yeah, okay, good, good.

I got hooked up. So, Ranger Bat, you can go to, what is that, third, wait, first. Yeah, first is in Savannah, Georgia, which is an awesome place to go to. Third battalion is at Fort Benning. The worst, dude. It was not great, especially if you come in as infantry. You've spent all of your time there. You want to get the fuck out of there so bad.

And then second bat's out in Portland, I think. Fort Lewis, Washington. I think it's Portland. Yeah, Portland. Okay, we're going with Portland. We'll just go Portland. They call them the antifa battalion holy shit you went through so much just to yeah i thought i was screwed like going on my first so i get to battalion my first deployment to iraq is six weeks later and i'm like there's no way i'm making it through this thing like no way i went. I went through five, but three deployments to Iraq, two to Afghanistan.

Totally fine. Not a scratch. Not a scratch. Generally speaking. Generally speaking, yeah. Nothing major. Nothing major. Nothing external.

No, yeah. Just the PTSD that lives with him forever. Yeah, I smashed my finger once. Oh, wait. Rewind. You cut off somebody's finger. Oh, rewind. You cut off somebody's finger. Oh, yeah, you cut off somebody's trigger finger. Yeah, so my first week in battalion,

because you're doing those final validations before you go on deployment, right? It's like you do this week, and then you go on leave, and then you come back, calitize, and go to war, right? And so this week was all about just we were going to be doing, we knew going in we were going to be doing a lot of mobility stuff, a lot of things based off vehicles. So I vehicles was like let's go out and run some striker things as one of the new guys you're like okay you're going to be on the gun a lot or you're

going to be driving a lot so i had to do that i was in the driver's seat i was first time i've ever done it we're doing recovery drills trying to use the winch to pull another striker out of a ditch at fort stewart and basically the way this works is there's somebody outside on the winch that gives directions to the vehicle commander up top that can visually see that person and then the vehicle commander radios into the driver who can't see shit when to winch in winch out so i as the driver am controlling the winch i hear we're doing this and i hear winch in i winch in and then i hear screaming and then i hear oh my god stop winching winching, winch out, winch out, winch out. I'm like, ah, I winched out.

I come out and a guy that I showed up to that we both came to battalion about the same time, we're friends. He was missing a finger. Between client meetings, managing your business and everyday tasks, who has time to worry about website hosting? With Kinsta's managed WordPress hosting, you don't have to. They handle the technical stuff, delivering lightning-fast load times, enterprise-grade security, and 24-7, 365 human-only support. Simply switching to Kinsta can make your site up to 200% faster. Kinsta's custom dashboard makes managing sites easy with powerful features designed to save you time and effort plus their free expert-led migrations ensure a smooth

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It's gone. Jesus. It was about halfway up the finger yeah something like that so what happened other than the it was a little bit of everybody's fault right so um about right with the guy that lost his finger i think his hand was probably a little bit too close to the winch for winching and i'm not clear whether he said winching when he should have said winch out or vice versa or if the vc the vehicle commander met there was a miscommunication somewhere along the way and there was also a finger probably too close to the winch

what we have here is failure to communicate yeah so um yeah that was that was kind of my first year in the military pretty normal you got shot and you cut a guy's finger off and you fell off a tower broke ribs and spine and then told to go up do it again wait what happened in base uh in airborne yeah i threw you know that place uh like with all the p-rock where they just have you do plfs all the time i threw up all over that i don't know how they cleaned that out like it was so bad it was so bad it was like that scene from Sandlot. What the fuck? Holy shit.

So, yeah. God damn. That was, I would have quit so many times in that section. Like, this sucks, Dave. This is God telling me. Not my thing. Not my cup of tea. Just like you when you were doing the skydiving shit.

Yeah. Where, like, you slept through your alarm and everything, and you're like, this is too many signs. I'm good. And I still was like, let's go. What all happened there? I forgot. It was, so we had free fall.

It was, okay, hey, you have, your first jump is tomorrow morning. So you're going to do your um uh person attached god damn it not uh tandem tandem you're gonna do one tandem and your free fall so one tandem free fall i'm like okay okay okay i suck at the tunnel i blow dick at the tunnel i barely can float now so i was like i'll go to bed i'll plug in my phone. I'll make sure everything ready, set alarm. And then I'll, and then I'll wake up and just crush the day. I plug in phone is charging, put it down. I wake up in the middle of the night. I'm like, I was like, Oh, it's probably a super early. I need to, I'll go back to sleep. I checked my phone almost dead. Like it is. And

I'm like, unplug, plug, plug. I was like, it was charging last night. What the fuck? No, the phone was dead. Thank you, Brandon. The phone was dead. I went to click it and I was like, why is it off? Turning the phone on and off. I was like, what the fuck? It was plugged in. I was making sure it was charged last night. I was like, it's in.

Plugged into the wall. I unplug it, plug it back in. The cord died in the middle of the night. I was like, oh no am i oh should i jump today i feel like i should not jump i'm gonna jump anyways but if i die this is this is my sign i completely ignore yeah yeah that was that was the exact same thing that happened to me when i was doing the the jump school down a placa uh like just like what two months ago i was uh it was my last jump i don't know why i got in my own head because like after my first i didn't give a like i'd already like done tandem like a year before like i really didn't care i was just like okay i gotta do this get the cert like to me it was just business my last jump i am in a sesna sitting there like static line attached

talking to myself about like you know now would be a good time to make peace with god and i got in my head about that for no reason i'm literally having an argument in my own head i'm like no why the are we even thinking about this right like like we're good we're good but if it was gonna happen why are we here why are we do it and you start double like yeah and it was that thought it's like well you're gonna regret it if you don't like that sort of shit i'm like oh god like why why am i getting in my own i don't i haven't cared up until now but now it's my last job it's like oh well here it goes and then that that jump was when my that was one of the ones where my shoe got tangled and then you start doing the opening and then you find, opening kick, opening kick.

And then you find out it's a normal thing. They tangle a lot. It happened, I think, two out of my five jumps. Yeah, that sounds about right. And it's not as terrifying as in your head. So when you're landing, they can't teach you how to land other than PLF. But past that, they can't teach you how to flare or when to flare. They can tell you visually.

You see, you don't want to flare too early. Otherwise, the chute will stall and you will just die. Or you'll hit the ground. Or there's static line where you just don't get to flare. Yeah. You hit the earth as a lawn dart at 18 feet per second. It just happens. It's terrifying when they say it like that.

You're hitting the ground about 20 miles an hour. You're like, what? I have to just land like that? Yeah, you'll be fine. Think about it as like a fender bender. Five times in a row. You'll feel real cool afterwards.

And then you didn't even get to use it. Yeah, I didn't even get to go to Normandy my it was amazing brandon you missed out on so much awesome stuff i ate oysters on a house boat for three days straight i was so jealous did did i did i ever tell you what happened with that uh i found out like two days that you couldn't make it not no i my i shouldn't have to do with the campaign no no no i paid like 1500 bucks to have my passport expedited like as fast as possible right i got my passport in the day you guys got back holy shit i was so pissed i like i would rather they just lose it in the mail or something but like the day you guys were getting back i got my passport

and i'm like you i went to jump school i did everything but that that was uh that looked like like genuinely looked like a amazing time it was great i did not into and marty's done that trip uh more times than i have 74th and 75th yeah um the 80th is like a real once in a lifetime opportunity those french people are the most patriotic people i've ever seen who was just on talking about that yeah it was uh jack car jack car said that was one of the most it's where he was like man we're up our young generation because the level of enthusiasm and respect for that world war ii community and those soldiers, like them putting on the parades. Bro, I escorted two veterans with my dear friend, Tracy Hunter,

who runs Beyond the Call. Can I give Tracy a shout out? Yeah, of course. Runs a great organization called Beyond the Call. She basically just takes World War II veterans out and takes them back to battlefields. She does a lot. But I was driving around two world war

two veterans all day al al shappling and uh don graves i've been around what would be considered a-listers i've been around celebrities before i have never seen anything in my life like what i saw escorting those world war ii veterans around it was like moving the beatles around dude people were mobbing our cars people were handing babies to them people like we had to uh we had to kevin uh uh kevin had to get out of the vehicle and like literally like get away we're moving so i could drive through this mob they were like trying to get to these guys like they were the Beatles. It was bonkers.

I've never seen anything like it. That's insanity. Oh, American, please! Why do you sound Japanese? Oh. I was just trying to... He's got one accent. I know, he's always Asian.

I was just trying to do French racism, not Japanese racism. Be a French person. I'm so French. Let's go to the Eiffel Tower. That's crazy. It was nuts. It was just an experience. I've never seen anything like it.

Was it the same for when you were there? So I wasn't escorting World War II vets, so I didn't have that exact level, but I was definitely probably one of the people mobbing them, probably. I mean, it was cool. And what was really cool for me when I saw 74th and 75th was you would see, even all these years later, these World War II vets link up with people that they hadn't seen since the war. And there was one particular group,

these two people, a French resistance fighter, a female French resistance fighter, an American GI that basically had like a romance there and then just partied out of the war. That's a very common story. And then they met each other again, and it was not by accident. Somebody over there figured it out and figured he was still alive and all this other again and it was not by accident they somebody over there figured

it out and figured he was still alive and all this other stuff and organized this but they met for the first time in which was really awkward for their uh both of their spouses yeah i and you say that as a joke i want to say that they both married but both had lost their spouses already because you know they're very advanced age and so's even more romantic. And so, yeah, man, like, it just, it was like one of those things where, like, you just, what other circumstance in life where you see something like that happen? One of the other really cool things, too,

is the Ranger Regiment goes out and reenacts the climbing of Pointe du Hoc. That's really cool. They brought two or three Rangers out that climbed Pointe du Hoc and sat them at the top of the cliffs. So these guys are climbing up in period world war ii uniforms and greeted with the guys who were there at the time i mean it like gives me i get chills right now just when you see those

beaches when you see point du hoc when you go into saint maria glee and you see when you're there every every movie band of brothers say everything you've ever watched or read on it, all instantly gets put into perspective. You literally can see everything that happened instantly. Dude, that's... It's incredibly moving. That's one thing I'll say. If you ever get the chance, whether it's for a big anniversary like the 80th or otherwise, go over there one of the years for the anniversary. It's worth your time.

The gang does. The gang does. Yeah. 81st. No, I would, if they drop people off, jump the gang.

Does anybody? I'm got Cody. Yeah. What is the answer? Northern France is awesome. The people are great up there. It's just a great vibe. These towns are so beautiful.

It's just all a bunch of small little towns. All the people are great. So here's something that I was told, and I was almost certain it was bullshit when I was told it, but I was just going to go along with it anyway. I was told that the process of landing in Paris, renting a car, and going to Normandy as somebody who is an American,

has only driven on American roads and only speaks English is easy. It's not bad at all. I've done it multiple times. It was something that I didn't want to be unprepared so naturally I'm skeptical. Driving through Paris sucks. But once you're out of Paris

it's gravy. And driving through Paris is no different than I would say driving through Boston. It's any other city you've ever driven in where it's like the roads were not built for cars right it's any city like that the only thing that sucks if you fly into paris and then drive up normally the only part that sucks about that is trying to navigate charles de gaulle airport that is the worst it is so weird to get out you're gonna have to make a couple practice turns around the airport before you get out yeah it is it is kind of map ahead of time yeah figure it out never mind driving just getting out of the airport to

your rental car like it's insane okay so the pro tips here we like it we're doing it cody's jumping out one of you guys are coming with us you know you have to do the beach and we get a shoot at i really would like to do that it's worth that one of my favorite things about interview i've been i've had the pleasure and honor of interviewing these world war ii veterans the last few years do you know side note we'll be here uh on sunday yes already yes yeah can we i can hit up tracy if why you want to do a podcast with don graves dude dude okay i would love done i'll hit up tr. Why? You want to do a podcast with Don Graves? Dude. Dude. Okay. Would love to. Done.

I'll hit up Tracy after the show. I would love you. Yeah. Just make. Yeah. Don't let me leave here without hitting Tracy up. Don Graves is a. I interviewed him.

Sean Ryan interviewed him. That dude's a freaking personality, dude. Anyways, you know, I love about these guys the most is I hate how they're treated as ornaments and paraded around like this noble super great generation that was perfect like these guys were animal every single one of these guys i talked they've all outlived their wives by like 10 years every single not every single one but most of these guys i've talked to when i've been interviewing them they by the way they bring it up not me they just start talking all they end up talking about is all the they got in europe they always they always go back to they remember these girlfriends they had

80 years later like my wife said i'm i'm thinking about this french brood i used to bang man holy shit okay so we're all gonna do that that will be an unsub thing of all day okay before we close out you just wrote a book good sir yeah uh joe kent and i um yep dave photoshop it right here for three seconds i'm looking at dave right now dave is literally in the building dave showed up we were talking about you earlier so you're gonna have a whole segment about that bro talk about your weird foot thing yeah that foot thing's crazy. You just wrote a book, though. Yeah, yeah.

So Joe Kent and I just recently published a book about his late wife, Senior Chief Petty Officer Shannon Kent. She was an incredible person, came into the Navy in 2003 as a cryptological technician, spoke, you know, ended up speaking five different languages, multiple dialects, went directly into special operations. She was the first woman to go through the Navy's direct support course for Navy SEALs and then went on to higher levels of special operations later in her career where she ultimately met her husband joe kent who's a green army ranger green beret uh they both served in a classified special operations unit together where shane was ultimately killed while hunting down the leaders of isis in 2019

um incredible person ran marathons spoke all these different languages was the mother of two young boys the way that cancer survivor i read i loved your book and the she not only spoke arabic very well she could do have the dialects and she could go to syria and speak it in their dialect and then go to egypt and speak it in their dialect her first deployment she would be in these conversations with the iraqi counterterror what was now called the iraqi counterterrorism service who draws who draws their soldiers from all over Iraq. You might have a Kurdish guy. I mean, like all the different tribes out there.

And in the same conversation, she would fluently switch from dialect to dialect, just as we are all talking amongst ourselves here. I mean, just really incredible person. Well, I can speak Louisiana whenever I want, Marty Scovelin, Jr. Mr. Bush, you can speak Louisiana whenever I want, Marty Scovelin Jr. Mr. Buck, that's our point today. No, it was crazy too. Who's the Picklewood?

Who's the Picklewood downtown who blows the glass? Who's the Picklewood downtown? You want to treat like that? No, no, I never said that. You want to treat like a white folk? No, no. I don't know if he wants his name said, but a friend of mine actually deployed to the Middle East with Sebastian Gorka. Yeah. And Gorka was his, like, I don't know if he was a Terp, but he basically, he said that the guy was so well read on, like, all the different histories all throughout that region that, like, he knows, like, well, you know, if you want to talk to this tribe to this tribe you need to tell them about x y and z that you're doing with these people

because 450 years ago there was a three-month war fought over a goat or blah blah blah like he just knew all the details of the region like to an intricate detail yeah and uh stuff like that you can't put a price on no i mean shannon in her off time when she wasn't deployed would be watching like arabic television arabic movies listening her workout playlists were in arabic and then that wasn't even the only language she spoke like she spoke other languages on top of that she did some stuff in africa uh that we briefly touch on in the book she and then with her cancer she was supposed to get out and then well she was trying to you know they her and joe started having kids raising a family like we can't both keep deploying joe was transition he was about to retire from military and going to the cia as a paramilitary operations officer and so it's like you know we can't both keep doing

this plus raise a family and everything so shannon wanted to she'd already gotten her bachelor's and her master's degree on active duty while serving in a special missions unit while deploying like got all those things done she's like you know i'm just going to go ahead and get my doctorate the navy's got a phd program where you can be an active duty navy psychologist still working soft as a psychologist help out with this at the time was this emerging veteran mental health epidemic um and go do that so she went and she smoked the board she she was accepted into the phd program some other side of that some people are just built different.

Yeah, I mean, she was. I mean, that's why she's got a whole book written about her, right? Like, she was not the average person at all. The other piece of that, though, is you had to be accepted into a PhD program, and you had to be accepted as an officer in the United States Navy, and under naval accessions for officers, not retained, but for assessing, as if you were straight off the street because she had cancer for like a day she had cut out and was right back to work

um but because there's cancer in her medical jacket they came back after she's accepted in the phd program said no actually you can't do this because we're not gonna let you be a naval officer holy shit yeah go this is incredible yeah what she did next just real quick before we get too far what's the book called? Send Me the True Story of a Mother at War. Beautiful. Yeah, and I wish I had it right here to hold it, but I'm trusting Dave to do his magic.

Maybe even throw a link in the description, yeah. Is it on Amazon? It's on everywhere books are sold. Beautiful. This is major. It's on audiobook. You can listen to my beautiful voice for about eight and a half hours on the audiobook if you want how'd she get instilled for the phd or to get the doctor didn't she do something with con or like so she never ended up getting the phd but

she you know like in the military you just figure there's a waiver for everything right she tried to go to that she went as high as she could in the navy to the point where she got to some admiral that's like look if you want to change the medical regulation for a session in the United States of America, you're going to need to go to Congress. She's like, I guess I'll go to Congress then. And literally, like we put this in the book, she's like, I'm going to just put on my best pantsuit. And her and Joe went to Capitol Hill and started knocking on doors. Which is where Joe is going to spend the next at least two years.

He is hot on it. Everybody should definitely go check out Joe's campaign. Joe's fantastic. We knew a lot of the same people while we were running, and Joe is a guy that I'm privileged to endorse. He was an awesome dude. I'm looking forward to hopefully

seeing him do some good stuff. Yeah, there's very few people I think care more about this country than Joe does. I've been privileged to get to know him a lot over the past five years working on this book and telling his hero wife story. She was ultimately, not

during her lifetime would she see that regulation changed, but immediately after her death the Navy said, you know what, she wouldn't have even been in Syria if we just let her be a naval officer. And so they changed that. There are now officers in the United States Navy commissioned officers because Shannon Kent fought that fight.

And then the regulation was ultimately changed after her death. And there's a whole effort now, too, to name a whole ship after her. That'd be badass. You know, I don't know if there's, like, you know, I want you to unsubscribe. What's the name for the community? The Demolition if there's

the autistic fucks out there the weaponized autism go buy the book send me the true story of a mother at war but then also literally just bought on Amazon our friend Jack Carr wrote a nice little blurb for it right on the cover there um just you know go buy the book but then also hey you know go see if you can't help us get a ship named after shannon kent marty you sorry go ahead you

labored over that thing though like this wasn't something you whipped out in six months like dude when we i mean he was running a he was running coffee he was running a freaking heavy duty independent publication website uh you know 30 freaking staff and then in every waking moment like we we did a drive from uh from um sioux falls to pier south dakota a good four or five hour drive. Marty's in the backseat the entire time working on that book. Just laboring over that thing. Every waking moment you were

working on that thing. You want to talk about a mood killer? Everybody's joking around in the car and then I'm like, hey guys, can I read you this section real quick? It's about... I remember the section you read me. It's the most depressing stuff ever. I'm like, she died, didn't she? Yeah. depressing it was like i'm like she died didn't she yeah yeah so it was a little bit of a mood killer but yeah i worked on it as much as i could uh and joe

i mean the book wouldn't be what it is without joe's efforts on it either um it just if there's anybody that deserves to have their story heard and told far and wide it is shannon kent so and i i'll say it now real life g.i. Yeah, and I'll just say her maiden name is Smith. The Smith family has been through so much. Her younger brother, Mike Smith, was a career Marine Special Operator, EOD. He just retired from the Marine Corps last October and then just very recently passed away.

And he just got buried in Arlington, just not too far from where Shannon is. So that family, they had, you know, the Smith, I'll just, I won't put their first names out there, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, they had three kids. Two of them now have been lost to the war on terror. So very, very few families out there, I think, have the level, have lost so much

in defense of this nation, in service, or rather, I think more accurately, in defense of this nation in service or rather i think more accurately in service to this nation the actual true heroes that went through hardships and it is i know cody we talked about that earlier it's like are you ever gonna write a story and then i hear stories like that i'm like no nope because my story is eli dropped out of high school lazy shit bag social did more got out did stuff i had that i'm like i had someone tell say to me one time like you never really talk about the war or like was it like rough for you i'm like i hang out with like medal of honor recipients and like tier one people so what the hell am i gonna say about it you know it's hard because when you're in that it when you when you're surrounded by those dudes you're like oh i was in gunfight a lot of gunfight i'm like and i just know it gets

so normalized we're like oh i can't i was only shot and shot at and blown up a few times that's nothing it's weird because you see those guys you're like holy all right i'm gonna go on the alternative if mcconaughey can write a book okay okay true true true true but well uh he probably had a good ghost right yeah dude it's been a pleasure having you yeah and jack you want to do the special one are we doing the special afterwards no we're not doing guys thank you for joining the unsubscribed podcast i am joined today by eli doubletap marty scovlin jr jack mandeville brandon herrera myself donald operator thank you for joining the unsubscribed podcast. I am joined today by Eli Doubletap, Marty Scovelin Jr., Jack Mandeville,

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