Unsubscribe Podcast - 170 - Father Of The Year Gary Plauche's Son Speaks Out ft. Jody Plauche | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 170

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

We have a very special guest this week! After Brandon's Father's Day video on Father Of The Year Gary Plauche, his son Jody reached out and wanted to come on and tell his story. We are so thankful to ...Jody for coming on and we admire his ability to be able to make light of a very dark topic! Trigger warning for s*xual content in this one. We appreciate y'all! Watch this episode ad-free and uncensored on Pepperbox! https://www.pepperbox.tv/ WATCH THE AFTERSHOW ON PATREON! https://www.patreon.com/UnsubscribePodcast Donate to Jody's chosen charities: https://www.victimservicescenter.org/ https://www.lafasa.org/ BUY JODY'S BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Why-Gary-Jody-Plauch%C3%A9-Story/dp/B0BL1ZY35X/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=6HDALZT2CT16&keywords=why+gary+why+jody+plauche&qid=1675889377&sprefix=why+gary%2Caps%2C183&sr=8-1 SHOP JODY'S SHIRTS: https://linktr.ee/imaginationink2024 FOLLOW JODY https://www.instagram.com/jodyplauche/?hl=en https://twitter.com/jplauche ------------------------------ THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS! MANSCAPED Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with the code UNSUB at https://manscaped.com RAYCON Go to https://BUYRAYCON.com/unsub TODAY to get 15% off your Raycon order, plus free shipping! SHOPIFY Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at https://shopify.com/unsubpod TUSHY Stop wiping until you bleed. Join the 2 million butts who have already made the switch to TUSHY! For a limited time, Unsub viewers get 10% off your entire order when you use code UNSUB at checkout. That’s 10% off your order at https://hellotushy.com with promo code UNSUB ------------------------------ FREE TO USE MEDIA: (please tag/credit us when you post!) https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uppmQHMGf8uI2OuOatp932e3S2VGy0PE BUY US A DRINK! https://paypal.me/UnsubscribePodcast UNSUB MERCH: https://www.bunkerbranding.com/pages/unsubscribe-podcast ------------------------------ FOLLOW THE HOSTS: Eli_Doubletap https://www.instagram.com/eli_doubletap/ https://www.twitch.tv/Eli_Doubletap https://x.com/Eli_Doubletap https://www.youtube.com/c/EliDoubletap Brandon Herrera https://www.youtube.com/@BrandonHerrera https://x.com/TheAKGuy https://www.instagram.com/realbrandonherrera Donut Operator https://www.youtube.com/@DonutOperator https://x.com/DonutOperator https://www.instagram.com/donutoperator The Fat Electrician https://www.youtube.com/@the_fat_electrician https://thefatelectrician.com/ https://www.instagram.com/the_fat_electrician https://www.tiktok.com/@the_fat_electrician ------------------------------ unsubscribe pod podcast episode ep unsub funny comedy military army comedian texas podcasts #podcast #comedy #funnypodcast #military history Chapters: 0:00 Trigger Warning 1:07 Welcome To Unsub! 4:27 Jody’s Story 8:25 Jody’s Sense Of Humor 10:02 The Jim Norton Story 12:19 Gallows Humor 13:50 Jody’s Kidnapping 15:10 Cody’s Sister 16:48 Jody’s Work With Victims 20:53 AD 22:09 Jody’s Sister & Stormy Daniels 24:42 Jody’s Book & Brandon’s Video 29:00 The Shooting 34:15 A Dirty Jody 37:51 Grooming 39:15 Helping Other Victims 46:32 Jody’s Not Gay 49:07 AD 50:41 Kick Predator Hunters 54:16 The Shooting Video 55:01 Jody’s Feelings After The Shooting 56:50 Jeff Was Gary’s Friend 58:11 Jeff’s Childhood 1:01:31 HI EVERYONE & Unsub Live 1:05:36 The Offenders 1:10:21 AD 1:11:28 Coercive Control 1:13:54 Jody’s Book 1:17:34 Warning Signs 1:20:08 Getting Over Trauma 1:21:27 Dark Humor 1:26:50 Cody’s New Knife 1:32:09 AD 1:33:15 Cody’s Truck 1:39:42 Pew Pews 1:40:42 Brandon’s Father’s Day Video & Gun Safety 1:44:59 Details In The Book 1:49:54 WHY, GARY WHY?! 1:51:41 Gary Plauche As A Dad 1:56:20 9/11 1:59:52 The 27 Club Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Sorry, he started it, dude. Man, this is going to be a good one. Oh, he has less of a line than anyone I know. Do you have any idea how hard it is to make the host of this podcast speechless? Give it up. Give it up. Hey there, guys. Welcome to the Unsubscribed Podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:43 I think for the first time in the history of this podcast, we're going to be doing a bit of a content disclaimer for this episode. Today, we're going to be interviewing Jody Plasche, the son of Gary Plasche. You might have seen the famous viral video from back in the day where he took out that karate instructor with a 38. We're dealing with a lot of things that are sensitive subjects and how Jody dealt with them is through comedy. And we always preach that is an amazing way to do it. I feel like it was a great episode.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Jody was a great guest. But if you're sensitive to stuff like this, maybe it's appropriate that you find a different episode to watch. And if you do want to watch it and deal with a little bit of gallows humor that we're going to throw at you today, we would really appreciate it if you stuck around.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Enjoy the show, guys. Stop. You get what you deserve. All right. I got two. Okay. One, maybe you can give away to one of your viewers. The community?
Starting point is 00:01:43 You got close. Good for you, bud. I got my little brother to sign it. I signed it. My mother signed it. My sister signed it. My older brother didn't sign it because he was out of town. It just came together too quickly.
Starting point is 00:01:57 So this is for one of your listeners. We're going to give that away if you leave a comment on the video. Yeah, absolutely. What was the most offensive comment? And then they'll select the winner. Okay, absolutely. And we'll all sign it. What was the most offensive comment? And then they'll select the winner. Okay, let's not do that. Why are they all flying like Cody? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Hi, everyone. Welcome to another episode
Starting point is 00:02:16 of Unsubscribe. How dare you stand where he stood? Today we are talking about mathematics and equations. Judy Pouchet. Judy Pouchet. Did you just? Nope, it's not cracked yet. I heard it leak out.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Three, two, one. Oh, wait. Y'all didn't tell me to do it in the microphone. We did not instruct him properly. Instructions unclear. That's on us. Mango, damn it. Doing the thing? Doing the thing. We did not instruct him properly. Instructions unclear. That's on us. Oh, mango. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I wanted blackberry. Doing the thing? Doing the thing. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe podcast. I am joined today by Eli Double Tap, Jody Ploche. Nailed it. Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Thank you so much for being here. What's up, everyone? Hey, we got a boy back just like a couple weeks after Father's Day. Yeah. Yeah. That was kind of wild because you were the dream guest for that video. It was just like super last minute. And then you reached out afterward.
Starting point is 00:03:15 And I was like, yes, absolutely. We'd love to have you on the podcast. No, I just woke up and go to my normal routine, TigerDroppings.com. I'm going just to get the news. And all of a sudden, someone on Father's Day posted a video. And I click on it. And I'm like, that's funny. What was the final conclusion?
Starting point is 00:03:32 Was it a good shot or not? Well, we were mostly able to replicate it. We were just saying, the only thing for me that was kind of crazy about it, as it being a good shot, is how close everybody else was. The other officers, the guy recording it, he had to be precise with that shot because if he wasn't, a collateral was a problem.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah. The other cop that was walking next to Jeff, whenever my dad shot him, he was none too pleased with my father. Yeah. It was a little close. I just got my new shirt on. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:04:08 When you hear the shot go off, hear him go god damn it gary why gary why so he was the one well no he's not the one that said it oh okay the one that said it but when he goes god damn it he's like paperwork see that's that's the worst thing about being a police officer. It's not like shooting people or seeing death. It's the goddamn paperwork, dude. He was like a long trip from California. He's getting back 9 o'clock at night. He's ready to go have a nightcap. Now he's got to go bring daddy's ass to jail.
Starting point is 00:04:38 He wants to have a whiskey. He wants to see his wife and his kids. But he was ordering pizza. No, I'm kidding. He was talking to his best friend. We jumped right into it i love it for the for those of you who don't know the story uh jody would you would you like to kind of do a brief breakdown of what exactly was the what happened all right when i was in fifth grade my mother enrolled us in karate and we took karate lessons from a man named jeff ducette who was a file and he grew my family he grew me he tested my boundaries obviously i passed the test so he started abusing me for about a year he started
Starting point is 00:05:10 like the like it was like april 83 we're in a karate tournament in houston and he was like oh um come here i'm gonna suck your tonight and he had been touching me but this time i was like why the hell would you want to do that and I'm gonna tell you something right now cuz it's been very popular internet lately but hot too is not good when all the other kids fall asleep in your karate teachers the one doing it I tried so hard to keep a straight face through that I was holding in the jokes I was like you like me. I was like, Eli, behave. I was like, we don't have to behave. Not around me. I'm like, shit.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I just like, that's what. It's like karate turn. He's like, bro, my turn you super sane. Hook two. I'm like, shit. Well, this is another one. So then about a month, he performed a little sexier for about a month. They're uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You set the stage. I was like was like yay he's extra gangster now all right so then like a month later um that's what he actually started having with me and the first thing he used and i noticed this when i went to the bathroom a little while ago for lube was soft soap and that's what y'all have in there we're just giving you ptsd flashbacks on accident yep but damn it so then yeah so he did that pretty much he'd perform it or something and then he had and that went on until he kidnapped me and then um he was eventually caught for those who don't know and uh i was brought back from california on march 1st actually i flew into new orleans and two later, on March 16th, they were bringing Jeff back from California. And someone at the news station, my dad used to work for that news station.
Starting point is 00:06:53 My dad drank beer every day about a half a mile from that news station. He was on our bowling team. And the program director, his name was Bob Shedell. He goes, hey, Gary, when are they bringing your boy back? And my dad was like, well, hang on. Fucking tell me. And he goes, I actually, I think he's back already. Bob's like, no, he's not back. I think, I think he's coming tonight. So he goes over to old pay phones, old pay phone booth, like Superman gets into. And, uh, he called up the news station
Starting point is 00:07:17 and said, no, he's going to be coming in at nine Oh eight, I think, uh, tonight. And so my dad, with that knowledge, um, I think he had taken the gun the night before because he came over to watch lsu basketball game lsu was playing dayton in the ncaa tournament plus he also came over to watch the hill street blues um when me and jeff were in california we watched him film this one segment at hill street blues and it aired the night before the shooting and so this is why you were kidnapped in california when i was kidnapped we were watching me and jeff watched him film the segment for Hill Street Blues. And so that would have been between February 19th and February 29th.
Starting point is 00:07:50 So it probably been like the 21st and it didn't air till the 15th. And so we watched that Hill Street Blues that night, the night before the shooting. And then so when they brought him back, my father, with the knowledge that Jeff was going to be at the airport at this particular time. He had the gun in his boot. He called his best friend from the pay phone. And they made a video that y'all were celebrating 40 years later on Father's Day. He shot him, killed him, and then he didn't go to jail. He got five years probation and 300 hours of more community service. I love how you put more community service. I already like this everyone's like
Starting point is 00:08:27 we don't even have to do like a 10 second splash one because this first two minutes have went harder than anyone everyone's like holy shit do i laugh okay cody looks awkward right now eli's laughing but we can't trust his emotions it took my friend about 10 years to get used to my kind of twisted humor and so welcome to the party he was at twin peaks drinking and all the girls the bartenders wanted to do a blowjob shot you know we go down with no hands and you do the shot and uh so he they even got on a microphone it It was like, I don't ever cheer anymore. And he just couldn't do it. He couldn't have the coordination, I guess.
Starting point is 00:09:09 It's probably not a bad thing. But so anyway, right after he did it, I called him because I just got off of work. I was going to see whether he was at Twin Peaks or Hooters because either or. And when I called him, he goes, oh, look, speaking of blowjobs. And those girls were like, he is your friend. You cannot say how dare you. And he was like, no, that motherfucker was saying himself. Because that was one thing when, you know, obviously I'm reading the book in preparation for having you on.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I wanted to get a feel for, you know, kind of where your sense of humor was. Because I was told by a couple of people going into this that you had a very, basically an us sense of humor about a lot of dark topics and things but the more jokes i read just you know if you read between the lines of your book it's pretty clear that that you're you're not afraid to to poke fun at certain things that are kind of and we also did ask jody before we started the podcast is there anything you don't want to talk about and he's like no fuck it we're talking about everything which is gangster it's as it should be and we are truly thankful for you stepping up. Dude, it's such a rarity to have somebody that's like,
Starting point is 00:10:10 you either have a victim mindset or you have somebody that's like, fuck that. I'm going to crush it. I'm going to help others and then I'm going to make the light. I'm going to try to turn this bad, this dark time in my life into a positive or a light place and then find the best way to do it. Should I tell the Jim Norton story?
Starting point is 00:10:25 I actually had that in my notes. No, no, no, no. Go for it. If you want to talk about that. I guess it was around 2011 when the whole Jerry Sandusky situation was going
Starting point is 00:10:37 on, a caller called into the opening Anthony show and was like, Hey, there's this video of this guy. And they were like, Oh no, yeah, it's a classic.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And so they were talking about it. And Jim has this character called uncle Paul, there's this video of this guy. And they were like, oh, no, yeah, it's a classic. And so they were talking about it. And Jim has this character called Uncle Paul, who's a profile. So as they're talking about it, Jim's going, yeah, that's my karate friend. We do judo with the kids. Yes, we lay on the mats. And so anyway, so they knew the story. So I went and saw Jim in Dallas, and I didn't say hey to him. I got a picture with him, but I didn't say hi.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I emailed him. I said, hey, I went to your show last night I'm the kid that you know his father shot the guy he said man he was next to me come up to me come to me so a year later I'd go see him in Dallas again and so well how he would do it he's have like he'd have a lot of people and he'd have his guy take the picture so it was boom boom boom and then he would upload the pictures to his website and then you just go a couple days later and go get your picture. And so we're waiting in line. And it gets to me. And I'm like, Jim, I'm Jody.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I'm the kid that was kidnapped by Father Shots. He gets out his phone. There's a lot of people. He gets out his phone. He's like, come on, let's take a selfie. We're going to see the same thing. So I go see him in New York City. So me and Jim, we had experiences.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I've seen him other times, too. And one time I went and he's like, hey, man, you look like you lost weight. So me and my friend Tiffany go to this place called the Fat Black Cat where he was trying out a new hour. Five bucks, two drink minimum, which is not a problem. And so me and Tiffany go and we're sitting second row right front stage. I'd said, hey, before the show. So he does his hour set and he's trying to do crowd work. And he looks at this guy and he's like, hey, what's your favorite genre of porn? And he was
Starting point is 00:12:08 sitting with like his girlfriend or his wife. And so he didn't seem like he wanted the answer. So Jim just kind of looked out the crowd and was like, anyone, what's your favorite genre of porn? And Tiffany, she'd had a few, she's like, anal. And Jim looks at her and goes, ma'am, do you know who you're sitting next to? He's like like that's my friend jody when jody was younger do you mind i'm like no i don't mind go ahead and so he told the story and yeah standing up and my friend says like oh my god oh jody i'm so sorry i said what are you sorry about my favorite comedian just introduced me to the crowd in new york city yeah thank you all right i think one of the best ways to get past trauma is gallows humor like we talk about
Starting point is 00:12:44 it all the time people try to shit on me for like trauma is gallows humor like we talk about it all the time people try to shit on me for like all the gallows humor that I do on my channel and I think it's really important to get past like actual trauma yeah you can again be a victim or not crazy fucking
Starting point is 00:12:57 be a victim or be funny we make fun of Eli all the time for being shot and getting a purple flag I was terrible at my job I sucked and I should done better pdsc when you should have zagged yeah brandon makes fun of uh veterans oh fuck off who doesn't yeah everyone just double salute brandon you know you know who does it to the damn v8 yeah they yeah oh i know we got uh That was the funny part. It's like when we were making those jokes, we were talking about like we were basically making fun of how fucking bad the VA was.
Starting point is 00:13:31 So people will overlook the actual problem to make fun of you for calling attention to it in the wrong way. Our veteran neighbor, he's dealing with the VA right now. He's like, they're not trying to pay, but we're going to put him in contact with the re because I was like, oh yeah, re-medical might actually be a good one for him. He's a Vietnam veteran. Yeah, he has the agent orange shit. The not fun, all the bad stuff. That's when the military's like,
Starting point is 00:13:55 I don't know what it does. Just test it on them and then like, oh, don't pay them. Just call it cancer and we're fine with it. Man, y'all are bringing us down. Sorry, tell us your... disneyland yeah back to karate lessons he did take me to disneyland when he was kidnapped so i mean it was that really yeah which was interesting when you you kind of open up talking about how, like, that was the, I would say, the least bad part of the experience was all that.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Well, his... Not because Disneyland's so cool, but because... Well, I knew he was going to tell me, go down to the bathroom real quick. I'll be in there in a minute. But, no, he was kind of stressed out. So, there was, like, one or two nights where he kind of did what he usually did. But for the most part, that 10 days I was gone, you know, it really wasn't that bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:52 It was actually good. His mind was just everywhere else. Yeah. He had other things to think about, like getting money. Yeah. It was like the stress. Because I think Brandon talks, you brought it up the other day and you're like, yeah, during that time period, he was explaining your story, you can do a better job.
Starting point is 00:15:06 But it is the stress he was feeling, which then, if any dude out there, or guy or girl, it's like when you're stressed, and you're like, ah, work doesn't fucking happen. And then that's what happened. And that moment is what you thought was kind of dealing with it. Yeah, mine was just on other things than little boys these are the fucking verbal flashbangs i was talking about have i told you about my sister so my sister is a child crimes investigator in georgia and
Starting point is 00:15:37 she's won many awards for arresting like the most files in in the past 10 years so yeah she's awesome so she she goes after that shit too it's cool as fuck that is awesome gangster like the most files in the past 10 years. So yeah, she's awesome. So she, she goes after that shit too. It's cool as fuck. That is awesome. Gangster. I'm sure that like,
Starting point is 00:15:50 just has to be a job that weighs on you after a while. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. The amount that you're exposed to, like, yes, you're doing a good thing and you're helping out,
Starting point is 00:15:58 but like, you're just exposed to so much shit. Yeah. When I was working at the crisis counselor as a presence counselor in Pennsylvania, I felt the opposite. I felt like, you know, I'm glad I'm here for them. You know? So maybe your sister has that mentality. Like, okay, you know what? I want to be the one to fight for you. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So like she did child crime investigations for a couple of years
Starting point is 00:16:17 and I could tell it was weighing on her a little bit. So like I hired her to, to come work for me for a year and she just wanted to go back and do that so bad just like to help the kids that's awesome that's as it should be it's that as you say when you deal with it or you've seen the difference you make in that field it's like hey i that not do it i'm working for my brother awesome freaking great still not my calling i need to go back to that even though it's exactly because i was paying her more than she was making as a police officer but she just had to go back because she felt like she was you know she had to help kids and she went back and arrested like 200 more files like stings and stuff like that which is awesome if you think about like the the the butterfly effect
Starting point is 00:17:00 of that like how many people were saved because of that yeah of course yeah god what was that there was generationally even there was um with it with you and then once you got into that line of work yourself did you feel it's like hey with your dark sense of humor did you feel that helped and did uh like the individuals connect with you more when you would bring that stuff or would you test the water slowly probably test the water a little bit no no so here's the beauty of where i worked in pennsylvania um victim services center of montgomery county incorporated in norristown pennsylvania throw them a little plug but uh i could not share my personal story so if i'm going out really at a high school and i'm talking about date safety and you know don't drink don't i they always ask you know did anything
Starting point is 00:17:43 happen to you like oh when i was in, I was in an organization called men against violence. So that made me want to do this more. Um, but you know, now whenever I speak, I can, I can definitely share my story and I, and, uh, I try to share it as much as possible. So I'm here. So why, why wouldn't you, uh, why weren't you allowed to tell the, when you were doing because a lot of victims go into that line of work, whether their child was victimized and they're a parent of someone who was victimized or they were victimized and it wasn't about me it was about what these kids can do to keep
Starting point is 00:18:14 themselves safe so we didn't want to distract them with like did it happen to you you know yeah and so it doesn't become like a circle of trauma dumping on somebody you're trying to help right yeah and i i really appreciated appreciated that. And it was 2002. I had to go to my boss. It was when the whole Catholic church scandal broke. A friend of mine, Art Harris, worked at CNN. And he was like, I'd like to do a follow-up story. You're a child abuse victim.
Starting point is 00:18:36 You're working, helping others. You're doing education programming. And so I had to go to my boss and say, look, they want to do this news story. And she had to run it by the board. And the board was like, absolutely, you can do it. And he flew up from Atlanta. This was in the book, too. So they fly up to Atlanta, and they do the interviews.
Starting point is 00:18:54 And we do a walk through Valley Forge Park. And they wanted me to do a program for kids. They wanted me to show them, show me doing the safety rules to the kids, the no go and tell. And so I'm in the second grade class at Brooke elementary in Roversford, Pennsylvania. And I got the correspondent, the producer, the guidance counselor, the principal, the teacher, the sound guys, and all in this one little second grade classroom. So I get to the most important part.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I get to the part to where we go over good reasons why a grownup would need to touch a child's private parts. Like, you know, going to the doctor, you know, changing the baby's diaper. So we get to the part where,
Starting point is 00:19:30 you know, there's sometimes there's no good reason for adult to touch a child's private sports. And this is what we call secret touching. And this will be, we raised his hand. Normally I wouldn't have called on him, but I felt the pressure.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Cause all these people are now like, all right, what he goes, sometimes you can secret touch yourself i said kid i'm 35 and single trust me i know god i forgot the kids like talking about you're like oh my god no actually you're just gonna like that's not what we're talking about how do you reply to that even though because you're talking to a fucking second grade you're like no i said well if you're touching yourself then it's not what we're talking about. How do you reply to that even though? Because you're talking to a fucking second grader. You're like, no.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I say, well, if you're touching yourself, then it's not a secret. God knows. And then you walk away. Your grandmother's watching. Your grandmother's looking down on you. Yeah. You're going to be blind. This is why grandma's not going to heaven.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Kid, that thing goes home with PTSD of his own. Jesus Christ. Damn, this episode's going hard on me. I know. I's going hard i know man this is gonna be a good one because it is a brand new like unsub's done a whole bunch of different things this is a new line and we'll have a warning or a different type of message at the beginning of this one just in case um just to give some people like a hey even though it is i like that this will be the first one we might put it like i like hey just just in case you know it's going to be fucking kind of out there if unsub puts up a disclaimer because
Starting point is 00:20:49 we're also like a veteran sewer slide like making all those jokes this will be the first time they get hit with a hey uh just in case yeah here i warning. Yeah, uh Double entendre. Yeah. Hey, oh god Give it up See that's me watching kill Tony Fucking hell Eli have you heard about Raycon's everyday e25 earbuds? Eli Eli You must have had the noise cancellation on. I did.
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Starting point is 00:22:33 Like shit that like it wasn't even because, you know, I knew the story going in or at least I thought I did. You go into that in great detail. There's some other stuff that's just kind of on the sidelines that was just out of left field but funny as shit like your sister with uh stormy daniels yep my sister did beat up stormy daniels now my sister will say not as good as she wanted to but um what was the story there all right so because it's kind of breezed over a little in the book like there's got to be a fucking story so literally if you go to the karate school or the building where the karate school where jeff sort of me it's next door to this building that used to be a bar and if you walk out of the karate school and cross the street there's a gym called calloways okay so all this
Starting point is 00:23:15 shit took all place in this one little area so my sister and her friend went to the calloways and uh by the way my niece is calloway's brother's daughter so I mean it's just so my sister my try that in a small town but uh so my sister's in showing her friend the gym and Stormy was like on a uh treadmill and so my sister and them were like and my sister claims they were going oh look how pretty Stormy looks she probably was Stephanie back then and uh whatever Stormy's like what what are y'all saying about me and then stormy threw a smoothie in my sister's face and my sister she's got three older brothers so she grabbed her and she started hitting on her well they broke it up
Starting point is 00:23:53 real quick but uh the donnie calloway the owner he kept it forever and he's like the biggest donald trump fan and then he threw it away like because he figured she would sue. So they wanted to show that she started it. And then after 10 years, he threw it away. And then all of a sudden, Trump runs for president. Then all of a sudden, the news is that he banged a porn store. She's not a star. She's not a star. Maybe she was back in the day, back when we had our thing.
Starting point is 00:24:21 But nope, not anymore. She did porn. Not a star. And her comedy sucks she did porn not a star and her comedy sucks and apparently not a good fighter her comedy's not like her porn she's really good at sucking at porn r was she um no what a wild line to say though if i can jody ploshay's sister beat the out of stormy dan that's that's that's it's just it's just something enough to be made up but it's true yeah i mean this is one of those ones where like right now my ploshae's daughter fights a porn star also solid title that's like the perfect it's like
Starting point is 00:25:00 what are we gonna call it i have a what's this book by the way can i do my first surprise yeah why gary why you can get it on amazon yeah i i legitimately couldn't put it down i like i read through all of it last night because it was you know not the best reading material before bed i will admit um but it was it was fucking it was riveting i i enjoyed it all right so i want to show you all this because it's based, this cover, I'm not a good artist, but this came to me. I thought it was a good idea. And so the cover is based off of, what do you have, Danny? What do we have here?
Starting point is 00:25:38 What do we have? We have the shirt my dad had on that night. Wait, that's an actual shirt? That is an actual shirt. Holy shit. I didn't even realize that with the cover. Yeah. Hey.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Oh, shit. That's fucking rad. That's the real. Mad props for that one. I was hoping you weren't pulling out a karate gi. No. I'm like, I don't have to worry about him. The snub-nosed revolver. out a karate gi no that's fucking crazy he signed it that's what size did he wear he's small medium oh medium god that's so oh it's a little faded because it's 40 years old yeah
Starting point is 00:26:28 but yeah that's what the book that's what the cover i didn't even catch that dude that's fucking crazy i love that that is a oh yeah there we go that's the first one oh god oh so there's multiple i got a couple surprises oh dear. Oh, dear. I like it. So what was it like? I think one you're really going to like. Good surprises. This is a good surprise. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:26:50 If you give us the gun. No. No. We don't know where the gun's at. But you know what? If I was going to give it to anybody, it would be y'all. I appreciate it. No, that's one that you have.
Starting point is 00:27:00 You know somebody in the fucking lockup there in Baton Rouge had to have snacked it. Rumor was the judge had it. Really? He died, so I don't know. It's not been confirmed. I'm going to go hit up the judge's office. If you were the judge, if I was the judge, I'd be on my mantle. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And then when someone comes to the house, I'm like, come see this. I'd put that bitch in a shadow box. Right? Show it off whenever people come over. He's like, do you know what that is right it plays one of those videos automatically plays when you go up there's a button you hit it plays that that's what it is piece of history american history right there 30 you had a long barrel it was his was a snub nose so i didn't know because i looked through the the footage is so
Starting point is 00:27:42 blurry of what we have now and then i kept reading over and over in your book. You emphasize snub nose. And I felt like a retard, which we can say. Yeah. Yeah. We can say that now, but I,
Starting point is 00:27:52 uh, we don't make eye contact. Why'd you make eye contact with me? Not the camera, which we think. Hi guys. Another, another,
Starting point is 00:28:02 another reason we use the longer barrel is when we were trying to recreate the shot we didn't want to shoot ourselves in the arm that's safe safety a little bit of safety there a little bit of extra standoff distance between you know yourself and the muzzle yeah and we only did like five shots before right yeah exactly yeah we just got shit right too like okay it might have been 10 sn Nose makes that way more insane. For the people out there, if you don't know, the Snub Nose aren't the most accurate of weapons. No. You're going to, you can't even go MOA.
Starting point is 00:28:36 It's like an inch or two of barrel. Yeah. Yeah, like two inches. And then you're struggling at, fuck. That hat might be a. I remember one time, I used to carry a snub nose 38 uh i was a tourist because i was an idiot and young and poor like exactly i was broke as shit it was like 300 bucks so i like i i carried it and i remember at one point like between here and the camera uh there was a a bowling pin i fired at it five times missed every time i'm like you
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Starting point is 00:29:56 And the first time I ever met him, there was two police officers. Mike Burnett, he's the one that yelled, Why, Gary, Gary, why? Y'all were making fun of another video. He knew my dad. They went to junior high. They went to high school together.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And actually my mother knew him separate from my dad. So my mother knew Mike separately before she even met my dad. She kind of dated Mike for like nine months or a year. And, uh, so that, that's why he was her first call. Cause he worked for the sheriff's department whenever I was kidnapped. And so the, so I see Mike at an LSU football game. And Mike goes, hey, look, there's Bud right there.
Starting point is 00:30:30 He goes, go thank him for having your child killed. I said, alright. So I walked over to him. I said, Bud, I said, I'm Jody Plocher. I just want to thank you for setting Jeff up to be killed. And he goes, man, fuck that! He goes, let me say something right now. One, if I'm going to set a motherfucker up to be killed, he goes, it ain't going to be in front of a fucking TV camera. And he goes man fuck that he goes let me say something right now one if i'm gonna set a motherfucker to be killed he goes it ain't gonna be in front of a fucking tv camera
Starting point is 00:30:47 and i had to be standing next to a mother shooting like this that was dude that was one of the scariest parts of the shooting too man it's like the camera angle you know we're big video guys the camera was right there where if the bullet went through fucking jeff's head it would have just hit the camera guy which is why it's coincidentally nice that he was shooting from such a low position because it was shooting up and out versus if you raise and present like that where it would go through but then also bullets like to do bullet things where it's like we get weird you hit something they hit jugs of water and they go that way we've had uh fucking iraq we i one of the dudes like hit here and he died
Starting point is 00:31:31 because it uh exited a femoral artery was he standing straight up yeah yeah collarbone just fucking went straight down went out of femoral died from that blood they're terrifying that's why it's like and that where it's just like, hey, I'm having a couple drinks. I'm defending. I'm doing something that needs to be done because dude's a piece of shit. But all the stars align and homeboy just nails it.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I'm glad you said that because he had had a few drinks. But everyone's like, oh, he was fucked up when he did it. He was not. He was not stumbling blacked out drunk. He had had a few drinks. He was calming his nerves to get the shot ready. did it he was not he was not stumbling blacked out drunk he had had a few drinks yeah and he was calming his nerves to get the shot ready he was a professional drinker and was not affected yeah he uh it just legitimately i like if i'm not mistaken yeah he was that was his job he was a salesman so he would meet people for lunch at 11 o'clock have a few drinks go back to the office
Starting point is 00:32:20 meet someone for lunch have a few drinks go out to the ball field, have an ice chest of beer. Because back then, they didn't care about drinking and driving. They didn't care about, you know, Daddy cut out a little Coke can and put a little beer in it and was just drinking beer at the park with the kids. No one cared about that. We used to be a proper country. Chase, pull up the clip when it's people bitching about that. The 80s and we introduced, or 70s when it's introducing the legal limit of.08.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I put in a hard day's work, put in 11, 12 hours a day, and then getting your truck and the leaser ain't one or two beers. They're making laws where you can't drink when you want to. Pretty soon we're going to be communist country. That's some of the best interviews. Like, I don't like the electricity in America. Well, how am I supposed to get home and not drink? This is against the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:33:04 These are people trying to get shit right. Let me just say this. 0.08 is too low, and I'm not an advocate for drinking and driving. I'm going to tell you what happened. So one night, I lived in a small town in Royersford, Pennsylvania, and it was like 2 o'clock in the morning. And in Pennsylvania, I couldn't figure out how to buy beer when I first moved up there. But you can go to the bar at 2 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Last call, but I'll take two six-packs to go. And so I knew my headlight was out. So I quit drinking at midnight. But I only started drinking. I had like five beers. And I quit drinking at midnight. So I had gone two hours without drinking. And I get pulled over, and I blew a.07.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And this is back when it was still.1, I think. Yeah. And so I was like, no. I could have easily gone home and jerked off. To me, that's standard. I don't like how they would have tested that standard.
Starting point is 00:33:56 How drunk are you? I'm good. Still working. I actually want to have sex right now. What are you doing, officer? I have that line, too, where it's like, if I get super drunk, I'm like, Sam, go away. No, you're just, no.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Go away, evil giant lady. My dick is not working right now. Did you ever see the video where they hand the old guy out a breathalyzer and he chugs it? Yeah. I saw the, there's also the one where the guy like tries to smoke it oh yeah that new one where the dude got pulled over and he's in the vehicle and they're like what'd you eat he was like it was oxycontin or something like adderall he's like
Starting point is 00:34:37 adderall he's like what you ate adderall he's like i never said that like you just ate something he's like no i didn't's like, what was the blue stuff you put in your mouth? Adderall. So you ate Adderall. I never said that. The cop's like, holy shit, dog. You are really trashed right now. You're going to prison for or you're going to jail for infuriating an officer?
Starting point is 00:34:59 Cody used to do the fun police work. Oh, policing is fun. It's the best of times. So I just looked up. Have you ever gone to Urban Dictionary? You know what that website is? Urban Dictionary. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yes. Okay. So something fun we like to do every once in a while is look up the word dirty and then your name. And so I just looked up what a dirty Jody is. That one sounds real gross. So a dirty donut. Can I take a guess? Go for it.
Starting point is 00:35:27 You put on a karate uniform. I was about to make that up. I was like, I hope there's a kata form in this. He's doing it again. So a dirty donut is when you lick an officer's asshole to get out of a traffic ticket. A dirty Jody is a woman who loves
Starting point is 00:35:43 cuddles with her girlfriend, girlfriend wife and enjoys watching erotic horror movies until they both fall asleep i wasn't expecting that's yeah yeah huh that was kind of disappointing i know right i thought it was gonna go way harder way better i thought it would like go somewhere like like uh the guy that comes home and fucks your wife in the butt yeah like a jody jody you know a dirty jody literally military jody yeah military jody is that that is when i heard your name i was like oh man military jody says famous name it's the dude that you let's do dirty brandon real quick while we're on the topic when your girlfriend gives you a blow job immediately followed by
Starting point is 00:36:20 a hand job and swallows both times decent Decent. Alright. I'd be sensitive. I was going to say, yeah. Oh, why are you touching it again? Stop. Give me 10 minutes. Dirty Brandon Ed Snowball. Yeah. Brandon loves snowballs. I've seen clerks. No.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Do you have snowballs? Brandon, do you like snowballs? You're talking about like 1990... What was that? 95 clerks? I've only seen snippets of that. Brandon's like, no, I hate him. Do I like him? I don't know. Brandon wasn't born when Clerks came out.
Starting point is 00:36:53 What was it? Clerks. It was like 90. Clerks was older. That was his first movie. I was in college, so it was probably 94, 95. That was his first movie. Yeah, Kevin Smith's first movie.
Starting point is 00:37:06 So basically. 1994, I was not born. A guy comes into the little shop where he's being a clerk at. And his girlfriend's there visiting with him. And so the guy leaves. And she looks at her boyfriend. And she goes, yeah, he likes to get his. And whenever he gets in your mouth, he likes you to spit it back into his mouth.
Starting point is 00:37:22 So that's a little snowball. Yeah. And so. I was helping you like, yeah. into his mouth. So that's a snowball. Yeah, and so You're like, yeah How do you know that she goes It's just he goes. What do you mean you suck this and again? It's big like he's freaking out and she is he's like, how many you sucked and he goes she goes 36 he, including mine? He goes, 37. Trying not to suck any
Starting point is 00:37:45 on the way to the parking lot. Okay, I have seen this bit. That counts wrong. Hey! God. I just know the clerks do. We're taking it back. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:00 We can't even begin to quote that bit. No, there's like certain bits where we're like hold on i'm gonna start floating yeah pepper box is still speaking of which floating or yeah speaking of floating so we do a thing i do feel like that says something about your book that the hard r when that gets mentioned is the least jarring part of reading it oh i was like yeah if people don't want to hate jeff for being a foul he's also a racist go right before we go into that what was the um like you're winding up this they they leave here he takes you you get kidnapped and then acquired or that
Starting point is 00:38:38 they find you it's like all of that and you probably talk about it in the book brandon will know what was the psychology on your point in that? Were you just like, Hey, you're young. You're 11 at the time. Yeah. I was 11 when he kidnapped me,
Starting point is 00:38:50 but you got to realize I had been victimized for a year. So that's why you're not getting like control. Exactly. That's why I want the audience to know. We talked about it yesterday. It's the idea of when you're young and depending on what your parents tell you and all these different things is how you get like you, you're just not in
Starting point is 00:39:05 the know like period you don't feel like you have any sort of control yeah you have an adult and you're going to trust them and you're going to be like oh okay well they said it's okay and i've never heard not this is not okay so i'll just assume this is fine and you're not going to know why and that's how kind of the control starts and the the grooming and everything and as you said it was the like the no-go or you passed the test technically you failed the first time i recognized the fact that he was testing my boundaries and this is very common with files is like he let me drive so now i'm sitting in his lap and he's putting his hands in my you know private area but he's but it's only briefly they're in the corner and um but i look back
Starting point is 00:39:45 thinking about it and it started probably oh we need to stretch here let's do a split level we gotta make sure your thighs are in so now he's introducing that being close to my private area and so i mean unfortunately fathers are good at what they do that's why that's 110 kids before they finally get caught or something like that i I looked that up, but you know, I mean, unfortunately that's the case, but from you telling your story, you've helped so many people come out and like actually like impact that you you've had a huge impact on their lives for them being able to, you know, not repress that and, and actually get people called.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Well, that's what I, so this is what happened. So on in April April of 91, me and my dad got a call from the Geraldo Rivera talk show and asked us to go on the show. And so I'm thinking, fuck yeah, free trip to New York. Let's go. We're going to go to a Yankees game. Me and daddy are going to a Yankees game.
Starting point is 00:40:35 And so we ended up going to the World Trade Center, the Yankees game. We saw Jackie Mason on Broadway and we filmed the show. Now this was funny. So the first question from the audience to my dad, this old man looks at my dad and he goes, how do you trust yourself to go into a public building and start blasting away?
Starting point is 00:40:53 The Yankees are not the same as we are. And so my dad looked at him and he goes, when I looked down the barrel of that gun, I knew exactly who I was hitting. So anyway, we go to commercial break. I look over, daddy's still looking at that motherfucker. I said, Daddy, stop. Yeah, I mean, seriously.
Starting point is 00:41:08 He was staring him dead. I didn't blast away. I blasted exactly one time. Wait, so there's a weird connection. I'll tell you later. So they filmed two shows that day, okay? The first show was called The Day the Music Died. And they had on Buddy Holly's wife.
Starting point is 00:41:23 They had on Peggy sue like who the song was written about they had on richie valence the real donna and uh little richard so i got to meet all these people okay and that day that happened and well the show didn't air until like a couple months later well when that show aired mike burnett calls me up and he said look i gotta let you know this it's gonna be in the paper it's gonna be in the news he goes we just arrested this pastor who had been abusing these two boys and the boy said he saw you and geraldo that gave him the courage to come forward and so i was like damn you know how people go i can just help one i helped two and i wouldn't even try it i was like going to yankee game so that's the moment when i decided yeah i
Starting point is 00:42:03 was gonna speak up i'm gonna write a book i'll talk about it i'll share my story um because you know someone needs to hear it and you've dedicated more than that like more than just one offhand appearance on on her although uh you i mean you spent what 30 years now yeah first first 30 more 91 was my first appearance and i was on court tv earlier this week and i'm here with you today. So, I mean, it's just I like to share my story so survivors of abuse can know that with the proper support, you can be okay. What's your favorite charity that helps out preventing abuse? Well, I mentioned RAINN because RAINN is like the national center. So if you're in Wichita, Kansas, you you call that number and it'll click you to the local
Starting point is 00:42:46 the closest local shelter so that's a good one i like i said i mentioned victim services center and i'm on the board for the louisiana foundation against assault and so they kind of oversee the assault centers in louisiana and you know split up money and make sure that they're doing their job and make sure they're taking care of everybody so if one were to donate to a charity that helps out preventing that what would it be what would you go to non-profits i would i would say if you know if someone wants to make a donation to eat in my name i would say uh 50 of victim services of montgomery county and 50 of louisiana foundation against assault well that's too easy because uh we were we were just talking about it earlier because you know with the assurance we did pretty well selling these shirts.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And I'd like to give a good bit of the proceeds over to a charity that you fall in line with and make sure that we can help the people that are – again, because there's the cool part of it where it's, oh, yeah. Well, Gary killed the guy who did all these things, the vigilante part of it. And every dad in the country is like, yeah. But then there's also the other side of it, where you need to be able to take care of these people. And so we'll be donating a good bit of the proceeds that way. And I think you were going to match it. Yeah, I'm going to match this proceeds that he donates.
Starting point is 00:43:56 So you go to one, you go to the other? Yeah, that's too easy. All right. Oh, my God, yeah. Since you brought up T-shirts, hold on. All right, let's go back to the bag. Oh, no. God, these guys are pieces of shit, right?
Starting point is 00:44:07 Charity donations. Helping people. Chaotic. Chaotic force for good. I love it. By the way, our new charity is called The Woodchipper Foundation. It's a great nonprofit.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Brought to you by Feet First. We were joking about that earlier it's like step one feed to wood chipper step two enjoy i fucking love dude i love this like the community yep damn it said it i just everybody i know uh it is like even that it is the guys had this idea he went to the restroom and they're like hey we're thinking about doing this uh i'm like god you guys just kick so much ass having friends that do that it's like unprompted and they just looking for a good cause and having this built around that now where we are fucked hearts but dear god do we do do? The level of good, everyone, all you are doing, all you guys, it's just a blessing. It's a good community.
Starting point is 00:45:10 It's a good community. Okay, what'd you bring? What'd you bring the boys? So, my sister and my ex-girlfriend, they designed their own shirt too. And so, actually, my sister bought your shirt. Oh, really? She didn't have to do that. She bought a couple of them. I know a guy. So, I brought y'all some of my sister bought your shirt. Oh, really? She didn't have to do that. She bought a couple of them.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I know a guy. So I brought y'all some of my sister's shirts. So here is, try that in a small town. My dad's signature, established in 1984. They got that one. That's awesome. It's like a Brandon color. He won't wear that one.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Oh, he won't wear the... Brandon doesn't wear black shirts. It's one of my... It's an autism thing, but yeah. He won't wear that one. Oh, he won't wear the... Brandon doesn't wear black shirts. It's one of my... It's an autism thing, but yeah. He's retarded. The front of this one, we got Why, Gary? Why? The Baton Rouge.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And on the back, you got the 40th anniversary. Oh, that's dope. That's fucking great. So, let's see. I think it's the same as the other ones. But anyway, I hope I got the right sizes. Y'all divvy them up how y'all please. That's awesome, man.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Where can we find those, Jody? You know what? I got that, too. Where did I put my phone? You were charging it over there, I think. No, it didn't charge. Where is it? I'll make sure I get it to you, and y'all can provide a link so people can go and order them.
Starting point is 00:46:24 We got a shirt that says ask me how I earned my black belt. I got the audience to be like, that joke sucked. God. God. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I don't know what to fucking laugh at. Technically, it was a brown belt. Oh, Jesus. This is where you feel guilty for laughing. You're like, fuck. Oh, I'm so happy. My girl was sleeping in the other room when I was reading it. There are several quips that you make in the book
Starting point is 00:47:17 that are to that caliber that I'm just like, try not to do a spit take in the kitchen. I was like, Jesus Christ, I was not prepared for that. Like how I know I'm not gay yes yeah you want to tell that story hold on I missed it I need to hear this story oh god
Starting point is 00:47:33 should I laugh at this I feel like that meme where it's like God's like or Jesus is looking over my shoulder like you better fucking not. Connor's in the background just like staring at the floor. So the first thing people are like, how are you doing? I'm doing well.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Are you married? Do you have any kids? No, no. I actually, I walk around the house talking baby talk to my cat all day. So they're wanting to know if I'm gay or not. And I tell them, I say, look, I sucked the dick and didn't like it, so I know I'm not gay. Hey, that's better than most of us.
Starting point is 00:48:13 How do we know we're not gay? Are you sure? Eli's on his fifth dick, and he's like, I'm still not sure. I'm tossing it up. Questionable. Guess I'll try again next week. It would have tasted funny. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I like Cody right now. He's like, I'm uncomfortable. At least guys... I couldn't tell if I was gagging on the size of the smell. At least guys manscaped now back then. In 1983, it wasn't like that. Brought to you by Mans...
Starting point is 00:48:41 That is how we lose that sponsor for Everest. Use them right there. Who is it? You actually have a Manscaped? Oh, yeah. They're one of our sponsors. I didn't know that. That is either the best ad integration or the worst ever.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I'd run it by them. I'd run it by them. Be like, hey, look. Here's a really good spot. Complaining about Bush. I feel like my heart hurts. I just like Cody has PTSD right now.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I planned out the murders of so many when I was a cop. I was like, I could totally get away with this. This is good. I probably shouldn't go into detail about no, no. I mean, we're all just waiting on the moment we get that with this. This is good. I probably shouldn't go into detail about it. No. No. I mean, we're all just waiting on the moment we get that cancer diagnosis.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Yeah, that's what we're waiting on. No, no. See, there you go, dude. It's twice now. When I get that fucking terminal disease diagnosis, eventually, it's going to be a hard time for any files out there. Like, it's going to be bad.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Can I just kind I say one thing? Make sure they're offending files. I know you're like, wait, what do you mean? Oh, I gotcha. I gotcha. Yeah. I mean, not just people with proclivities, but people who have actually abused child children. When Cody started his crazy business of podcasting, you know what?
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Starting point is 00:51:27 now to grow your business no matter what stage you're in go to shopify.com slash unsub pod do you have the numbers actually that's a really good number what is the statistics of the individuals that is like hey i am not acting on it but it actually goes through because it has to be pretty high of a i don't know what the numbers are but anybody out there go google it i don't know if that's a number you could really know because like how many fucking people ever admit that yeah there's a lot of people who get caught but there's not a lot of people that would ever admit to having those sort of you know fantasies or anything yeah well it's that weird and it's a fucking it's a weird spot actually you know where he would make a killing on twitch doing what the that new twitch wave where it is the guy's catching files and they kick it's gotta be on kick
Starting point is 00:52:16 dude it is fucking cool or like to catch a predator yeah uh that came to range day the big dude rosen yeah yeah yeah yeah dude have you seen this i've seen to catch a predator well so they're doing it on their live stream this is kick twitch mostly on kick now these dudes will act there they some get arrested and there's some baller arrests one was like a 30 year firefighter and then a police sheriff of 20 years got arrested. So they got caught. And it's Twitch streamers kind of doing what Cody's sister did. They are posing as little kids. They meet up with these individuals, but they're streaming it live.
Starting point is 00:52:57 And then they meet up. The guy doesn't know what's going on. There is thousands of thousands of live views. And then they show up. They're like, hey, what's up? Hey, we'll not get the cops involved. Admit what what you fucking done and most of the time they get their ass i don't know if you guys have watched how violent it is now do they beat the fuck out of these i like it better when they get the police involved and they do it the proper way yeah because like there's there's a couple of them where they just like uh vitality oh you like guys fucking yeah
Starting point is 00:53:24 the guy who was on drugs and beat the shit out of those women like yeah stuff like that it's like okay you're doing that for clicks because you're a piece of shit but some of the guys are going after people the right way and it's i mean i have a hard time saying anything bad about it they they do is brandon saying is doing it the right way where and a lot of the times they still can't because a police officer wasn't involved like we cannot cannot prosecute and we've handed over everything. We can't do anything with it, though. So we're just stuck. But some lead to arrest.
Starting point is 00:53:52 And then on the flip side, though, the crazy ones, they made one crawl through glass. Did you watch that? Yeah. But they're like, OK, here, admit it. I'm going to kick you in the face until you stop lying. And they kick the dude in the face until he's like, tells jews yeah i was trying to meet up with the 13 year old boy it's like okay now they throw glass on the ground like crawl through that go and you're like holy shit and again though like nothing happens they get off
Starting point is 00:54:18 yes their face is remembered for two weeks disappears there's no crime i gotta be honest it wasn't said in front of an officer so yeah i gotta be honest i wish my dad would have went about it the right way to be honest with you yeah he should have hung up the phone first the most it was just like the most respectful thing brandon and i were talking about it every fucking time the most it was just like the most respectful thing brandon and i were talking about it it's like taking your shopping cart back you know taking your shopping cart back your dad wait was that that was you that uh asked that question i'll bet gary plushie brings back a shopping cart because someone put that on twitter and i commented on it yeah because he he did the deed and then he hung the phone up and then turned around just gave up
Starting point is 00:55:04 it's like wow he's so respectful. I did what I'm here to do. I'll tell you a cool thing about the video, though. If you watch the unedited version, at one minute and four seconds, you see it kind of fuzz. The cameraman was smart enough to take the tape out, put a new tape in. So if the cops were like, we need that tape, he was going to take the tape out of the camera and give it to them. But he had the shooting in the bag. What a stud.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Holy shit. That's smart as fuck. Bro, that's a professional right there. Especially at that time. This is my payday right here. Fuck yeah. God. And then you learned all that.
Starting point is 00:55:37 What was that experience? Man. You please rephrase. No, not that. Why? Why? That was a dark one from you um it was like watching your dad like of course you respect your father and leading into that but after that act at what age did it hit you're like holy shit my dad is like a hero for his actions and holy shit like what he risked technically but for any what any
Starting point is 00:56:07 dad would do well i was upset at my father at first you know i didn't want him well first off before the shooting no one knew i had been by a man so once the shooting came out then his lawyers on tv saying he gave him this advocate it's gay magazine to look at which was a lie um wait what i'll uh explain that one a little bit all right so there's a gay at magazine called the advocate i don't know if it's still around tonight because i lost my subscription a couple years ago but um so we would prank other kids we take them to the bookstore and we like hand them the egg and they're flipping through it and they see nuts and balls and they you know we play joke on him. So my dad's lawyer was on the news going, he was giving Jody the advocate. That didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:56:50 That your father was? No. Or Jeff was. My dad's lawyer was saying that Jeff gave me a gay magazine to look at, which was not true. Okay. But it wasn't until Daddy shot Jeff that people found out what happened about me. So at first I was upset at what my dad did, and I was upset that Jeff had died because I was under coercive control. If you watch the video, when I return, I don't hug my parents.
Starting point is 00:57:09 My arms are in my, my windbreaker. I look like a motherfucker that had been abused for a year and I acted appropriately or how abused child would look. So, um, it probably wasn't until that summer we were walking down to the pool and I just told my dad, I said, I just want you to know I understand why you did what you did and I'm not mad at you anymore. And he was like, okay. And then we just kind of got back to normal. Because that's an element of things that I guess I didn't really consider because everybody sees the video. They – everybody, oh, well, good guy, do a good thing. And that's as surface level as most people get.
Starting point is 00:57:41 When I started reading your book, was when i i guess i i knew but i didn't consider that you know this was not only a longtime friend of yours right but also a friend of your dad's yes like your dad was shooting his friend yeah and that that's a that's a deeper element to it that like was it the right thing to do i mean who might argue but like it's still it's a deeper thing that most people don't consider. Yeah. They just see the video and go father of the year for 40 years. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but but it's like it goes a little deeper, I think. It is. It's a very because how long were your they friends at that point? All right. So we started taking karate and Jeff was being invited over to the house for our family gatherings. He spent
Starting point is 00:58:26 the night a few times and there was one night when he stayed the night over and we brought him back to the karate studio because that's where he stayed most of the time he lived there. My dad let him out and we're driving down the road not far from where Sissy fought Stormy and he starts crying and I'm like, Daddy,
Starting point is 00:58:42 what? He's like, he's so pitiful. My dad turned the car around went back got him brought him home let him shower gave him clean clothes and took him to my grandparents house where we ate sunday dinner every sunday and my dad had felt bad kind of like okay jeff you got to go we're gonna we're going to dinner i mean yeah so he he shot a man who was once his friend and then what was the point of like um his childhood what was his like hey did you get more of a backstory on like his childhood yeah he admitted i think on the flight home to the police officers that when he was younger he was trafficked by his mom so um and i do believe that i believe that to be the case um so i'll share this with y'all on the uh 40th anniversary
Starting point is 00:59:26 of his death which was march 17th 1984 i was in austin seeing jim norton at the comedy mothership and that was on the anniversary of the shooting so i drove back home from austin i had to go through vinton louisiana it's the first or one of the first towns you come to when you cross over the state line and i was like fuck it i'm gonna go to the cemetery where he's buried and so it was the first time but for the first time there was no like spiritual cleansing it was none of that bullshit um part of it had to do with i have an idea for the documentary if we get one made um so i wanted to kind of like check it out um i didn't go look for his grave and the reason why i didn't is because there was somebody visiting a grave and i didn't want it to be his and be like oh guess why he's here but uh i did have i did have
Starting point is 01:00:17 a little uh victim advocate in me that did have a little sympathy for like seven eight nine year old jeff who was trafficked you know i don't it doesn't excuse his behavior or what he did to me and other kids, but there was that little bit of sympathy for the kid Jeff, not for the man Jeff. When does fast grocery delivery through Instacart matter most? When your famous grainy mustard potato salad isn't so famous without the grainy mustard. When the barbecue's lit, but there's nothing to grill. When the in-laws decide that actually they will stay for dinner instacart has all your groceries covered this summer so download the app and get delivery in as fast as 60 minutes plus enjoy zero
Starting point is 01:00:55 dollar delivery fees on your first three orders service fees exclusions and terms apply instacart groceries that over deliver let me know where that grave is so i can go fucking piss on it they were like he would like that actually he would have paid you extra 50 bucks or giving you an extra quarter to play uh video games his grave dispenses a black belt oh jesus christ this is the darkest episode we've ever fucking done he makes the jokes and I'm like okay I'm allowed to make the jokes I know
Starting point is 01:01:31 so we're good that's how I yeah what's hilarious is as uncomfortable as we are like we are way more comfortable than the average person because we're just used to dealing with all this dark shit all the fucking time people out there just take a picture of your face watching people ask me all the time like y'all ask me is there anything off limits i'm like no
Starting point is 01:01:52 i'm like trust me i feel more comfortable answering these questions than you do asking them yeah yeah actually a really good point most people are like um okay how do I even ask this question? That's why I love it. You are one of the best already where it's just how forward coming you are on all your information. And you start out the gate, which then puts everyone at ease. And it makes it way easier to ask the questions. We don't have to tiptoe around. Yeah. We discussed that leading up.
Starting point is 01:02:22 We're like, well, we we gotta really figure out going into this one like how we navigate it or what's the line and then brandon read your book he's like oh man he goes pretty fucking hard which is dope and then you sat down and at lunch and then now just starting the podcast we're like okay let's let the people know lunch was kind of awkward because we we didn't we couldn't really talk because we wanted to talk we wanted to save everything for you know the camera so it was like uh so many questions we had like yeah welcome back everyone we're back hi we all went pp hi everyone again see people got pissed at him in the demetrius johnson episode for for not saying it
Starting point is 01:03:02 on in the right moment so So you get it twice now. That's true. Unlike the life. Unlike the life. Oh, that was still my favorite Cody. That is always going to be into like a core memory. Now I told you like our audience is pretty fucking autistic.
Starting point is 01:03:18 So if you don't do like everything in the right order, they, they freak the out. So we did, we did four live shows and we're in front of like fucking 400 people at each show and i don't do good in front of crowds so i didn't do the the hi everyone like our intro we tell them after the first show we we had a conversation after the second show we're like cody you gotta do the hi everyone they like that shit
Starting point is 01:03:46 the last one was the best we sat down with Cody we like reiterated this is the biggest one yeah you got this he's like I got it he sits down immediately fumbles the wall but Cody got it he's like shit hi everyone
Starting point is 01:04:02 I don't do crowds man I hate public speaking I'm not brandon over here some of us had to get better at it yeah you're like it is a completely different world though like my first ever political speech i had a fucking panic attack did i ever tell that story now tell it again it's fucking great because you're like uh it is it's a weird ass spot where you're like okay we're about to do again talk to millions there's a camera separating uh-huh it's super easy yeah fucking a hundred people still absolutely terrifying that your first couple of times you're like if i bomb that's on me and i even i'm even
Starting point is 01:04:40 used to giving speeches at like yl and things where i can at least like i have a podium in front of me separation between me and the audience and I can read off of like my notes whatnot but my first ever political speech I remember like getting up there in front of like 50 people even and in my the back of my mind I'm like this is the craziest thing I've ever done a major imposter syndrome I shouldn't be here and I straight up like three sentences in like i can't breathe and i'm getting dizzy like fucking straight up panic attack and i see like my other half is in the back of the room just like takes her flannel off like oh god he's about to pass out like i was i was like yay close and i ended up just like laughing it off i'm like as you guys know like i'm clearly not a politician
Starting point is 01:05:23 like gotta laugh out of the crowd a little bit but like straight up like i got way better at it later on but that was bizarre considering my my videos getting like millions of i was about to say it's so wild because we make videos for stadiums full of people yeah yeah a million there's no stadium it's a million yeah what's your what's your most viewed video uh just over 10 million yeah and then standing in front of 50 people we you and i both are just like yeah i don't know what to say but i like dude alcohol is such a friendly a friendly thing watching how it affects me can't on that last episode you have an individual like angry cops right he's a really good friend amazing human um that is where
Starting point is 01:06:06 he thrives if you put him in front of a live audience rich is like he is happy happy because he used to be a stand-up comic yeah and he fuck he's one of the funniest dudes you will ever meet and then you have meat canyon also does everything he's an artist he does some of the most amazing drawings and comedy sketches from it pop of meat and then halfway through that podcast once the alcohol hit like you see his personality just shift completely and you're like ah there's our boy he's having a good time now doing his voices talking about his dad oh god yeah i know he was he's a fucking trip he's one of the most like naturally funny people i've ever met he's just fucking he's was he's a fucking trip he's one of the most like naturally funny people
Starting point is 01:06:45 i've ever met he's just fucking he's talented he's a truly amazing human all the guys i'm like oh you know we got now we got you you're part of it i'm like oh fuck yeah speaking of being part of it you're part of the crew now dude so we have every everybody that we have on the podcast we try to at least everybody who's a core member absolutely is part of a superhero group that we have on the podcast or we try to at least everybody who's a core member absolutely is part of a superhero group that we we let our guests choose their superpower it's a superhero group called very unfortunate in this case the offenders um different different contexts we're thinking the avengers but we're offensive. Okay. Yeah, okay. I think I've done that. I'm sure there's someone that's like, wait, what?
Starting point is 01:07:28 Fit right on in. What superpower would you want? So like anything you want. Super speed, super strength. Demetrius Johnson. So we just had Demetrius Johnson, a UFC fighter, like pound for pound king. He was like, I want to be Blade. I want to be a Daywalker.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I have vampire powers. We're like, fucking that is awesome awesome but we get to choose the offset and then his offset was he uh instead of blood he craves cum so if he wants his power that's i completely forgot about that like we we were if any of you ever wonder like that level we drank a lot on that episode yeah none of us remembered show thankfully had just watched it and show was like uh he was the vampire i was like oh he craved cum okay that but in an irish accent yeah he's a vampire or however shooting stars lucky clovers vampires and come come out you black and tans come out and fight me like a man fight me like a man my boots me boots so so mine was i chose how to fly like i like that was my superpower fly that's crossing my mind i have to shout racial slurs
Starting point is 01:08:38 to maintain flight to maintain flight but it's like that uh dave Dave Chappelle skit where he's like, he's captain. Superpower, but he weeps. So what would yours be if you had any superpower and you're like, I can do this. We're going to choose the offset. I might. Flying would be nice, but maybe the ability to be invisible.
Starting point is 01:09:04 I think that's Angry Cops. Yeah, Angry Cops. Angry Cops has that one because he just, in order to maintain invisibility, he has to jerk off, right? Yeah. I'll disappear. You're invisible, but Chase, edit him out now. No superpower. Good Lord.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Jerk it off. That's my superpower. Good Lord. Jerk it off. That's my superpower. I once came first and third in a contest, jerk off contest. No, I'm just kidding. I can change hands without missing strokes. It's like a rotary engine. Yeah. How about this?
Starting point is 01:09:44 How about I can run really fast like you know well funny enough the speed of i travel at the speed of light i just can't interact with objects five minutes after i'm called crime cook so i show up and then i phase through everything for five minutes i'm not very good at stopping the crime immediately after watching it unfold. Hey, you, stop. Or I'll say stop again. Five minutes. He can write a very detailed police report, though. Pulling up, I'm like... How about this for a superpower?
Starting point is 01:10:16 All right, this is my final one. How about the ability to kill a pedophile on live TV and not go to jail for it? Is that a hereditary superpower? It's passed down. So the offset that I had chosen, you, okay,
Starting point is 01:10:32 you have that ability, but the offset is you have to finish learning karate first. I wouldn't mind learning karate. I'm too old now, but yeah, that wouldn't be, that wouldn't be bad. I just want his outfit is
Starting point is 01:10:46 a karate that's a superhero outfit he like lands no so i told you i'm on the board for louise foundation against assault and every april they do what's called denim day i think it's like the last wednesday of the month and so we had a board meeting board retreat last week and we were talking about in a denim gi i am 100 if I can showing up in a denim gi. Wait, there's a denim gi? No, I'm going to have one made. Oh, you got the fucking Canadian tuxedo going on, dude? The Canadian fight uniform?
Starting point is 01:11:16 Man, you break boards and women. I told him that last night. That's all I think with a denim gi. I told you once last night. Jesus, he's like. That's all I think with a denim gig. I told you once. Hair, hair. Sweet home Alabama in the background. That's fucking Meat Canyon's superpower, dude.
Starting point is 01:11:40 What was his actual power? I remember his offset. You can stretch. Connor, you ever heard about toshing? Oh, you mean this? tushy? Oh, you mean this? Did you know just wiping your butt with that dry ass toilet paper, just smear and poop around? With Hello Tushy, you have a fresh stream of water spraying directly on your butthole, eliminating adult skid marks, itchy buttholes, and the risk of spreading pink eye. No amount of furious wiping can give you that shower fresh confidence of washing with
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Starting point is 01:12:50 But it is a good point. Even like with our joking and what we're like. Yes, it is. You joke about it because that is how you're part of it. You're dealing with trauma that way. But it also is. Yes, it is. We're joking, but it's also a serious subject at the same time.
Starting point is 01:13:04 You can still joke, though. Right. but it also is like yes it is we're joking but it's also a serious subject at the same time you can still joke though right and the point that i wanted to make is that you know you hear people say you know on tiger droppings they're the worst like oh look who is arrested now it'll be on a hot teacher and everyone's like not guilty not guilty and i mean behind that there is a victim you know so there is a child victim. So I just want to make sure I point that out. Yeah, for sure. That's a really good subject of human psychology is insanely interesting. And then because it's Stockholm, you kind of went through Stockholm syndrome with what?
Starting point is 01:13:37 Or would you say Stockholm or just control? Coercive control. That would be it. Because he had control over me even when he wasn't around um like if he wasn't around and a classmate called me i'd go run in the back room and hide in case he came over and wanted to know who i was talking to who are you talking to why are you talking to that person so i mean he still had a control over me even though he wasn't around and was it a fear-based control or was it i would say it was yeah definitely it was a fear-based because, you know, he's a karate instructor. I mean, he would pop us upside the head, you know, I mean, he'd put us in power, you know, pressure points.
Starting point is 01:14:12 And so there was, there was that. If you think about it, yeah, a lot of his job was literally being in a position of power over you in a physical sense. Absolutely. Yeah. Especially at that age, you think, I mean mean especially it's like my karate instructor or a martial arts instructor is the like this dude can beat up anyone it's that my kids are told listen to adults i mean how often and i used to weigh tables and i'd walk up to the table and parents would ask their kid what do you want and they'd go uh a coke and then the parent would go
Starting point is 01:14:40 we want you just bring him some milk oh Well, how the fuck did you ask him? Hey, get up so Grandma can sit down. Fuck Grandma. We'll get Grandma another chair, but don't make the kid get up. So you're telling the kid that you're not as important as Uncle Paul or Grandma. So you've got to be – and there's a lot of good information like that in the book as far as not saying if anyone ever touches you, tell me and I'll kill them. Well, guess what? They're not going to tell you.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Yeah. Because people go, why? Didn't you tell us? I said, I knew my dad would kill him. That's what happened. So there's a lot of good information in that. So definitely get it. Whether you're a victim or not, whether you're a parent or not, there's a lot of good information for pretty much anybody.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Yeah, and I like the way that you weave it in through the narrative too like it's it's not just all you know here's the story of what happened and here's how you you know deal with it in the future it's like it's it's woven in like you're you're you're weaving in data statistics and also like things that like are actual helpful tips for parents and things while you're also telling a story that we're all engrossed in because i mean obviously everybody wants to know about it right well go to amazon.com plug your shit because i i actually that's the first book i've sat down and demolished in one sitting in a long time just you can go to amazon i also have it on audible a friend of mine toby tom play he uh he had a studio he's done audio books before and he had just had a one-year-old baby and he took my book home.
Starting point is 01:16:05 He started reading it. And the next day, he's like, I want to be the voice of your book. And so we took the time to actually – so you can go to Audible. You can get the paperback from Amazon, or you can get a digital version. You can get a Kindle. So there's many versions available. What do you see? You grew up in the seventies, eighties.
Starting point is 01:16:25 And then what was the difference now with UC parenting and how you would apply your, your information to parenting now? Cause it has, especially in the online space, dude is switched so dramatically. I mean, I grew up like Cody's more my age.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Brandon's at about a decade younger. And then you're a decade older or a little more. It is. Cause at that time it's like parent how you talk to your kid what you would talk about completely different than like what i talked to my kiddo about and same for like john's probably heard the same for riding they've heard everything just because our humor and our style we're still parents and we're trying to do the best job possible but then you have parents that are afraid to touch certain subjects altogether.
Starting point is 01:17:05 And then that's where the kids like, I don't know what the self-imposed taboos. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's more detrimental to a child than fucking anything. What I would do. And I'll say this. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:15 My mindset has changed in 25 years. When I went to victim services center, we're out there teaching the kids the safety rules. If anyone ever touches you, you say, no, you go, you tell an adult that you trust.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Why the fuck are we putting the emphasis on a nine-year-old to stop the abuse? Don't let your kids around these people. Or not these people because you don't know who these people are. Anyone. Don't let your kids out of your sight. And I'm not saying be paranoid. But another thing, I would not not teach that as well. I would still also teach it, but i would use it as a teachable
Starting point is 01:17:45 moment just read them a book about touching safety you know then you read them about the little engine that could you just work it in um and there's a you know it's in the book there's a place called uh there's no place like home you can google it and it gives you like age appropriate knowledge that you can talk to your kids at what particular like at five years old they should know how to say penis and vagina at six years old, they should know how to say penis and vagina. At six years old, according to Jeff, how to suck one. But Christ.
Starting point is 01:18:12 I love the entire audience goes like this. He made the joke. Just when I'm at ease. And it's right around the corner. That's what it was like reading that book at fucking two o'clock in the morning. You got a strawberry over there? I'll trade you. I'll trade you. And it's right around the corner. That's what it was like reading that book at like fucking two o'clock in the morning. You got a strawberry over there?
Starting point is 01:18:28 I'll trade you. I'll trade you. Oh, bam. You get a blackberry. I get to go to. Oh, I got a strawberry. Oh, you got one now. We're switching.
Starting point is 01:18:35 We'll take it. If you want black, if you want strawberry, you tell me. I was told to go strawberry. Straw and black. Just when you're like, you're focused, you're listening're listening all of a sudden gotcha right hook all right serious question real quick how good was the wiener no no um are there any warning signs sorry he's fucking started it dude you know i'm laughing at everything are there any warning signs that you could give a young child to look out for that?
Starting point is 01:19:06 Well, all right. So the one thing I'm going to tell you is I'm going to give the parent the one warning sign that I think is the most important warning sign. If someone wants to spend more time with your kid than you do, that's a warning sign. Another thing is to look at your children's behavior. Okay. If they have knowledge that they shouldn't have. For example, we got to call it a hotline. This girl, I want to say she was in second grade.
Starting point is 01:19:30 I don't know. Why do you remember? The turtle girl, the turtle girl. She drew a turtle with an erect penis. Okay. A second grade little girl should not know. You're like, why is she doing that? So the teacher's like, um, especially what's this?
Starting point is 01:19:44 And she goes, it's a yeah she should not have that in her you know what i'm saying turns out her older brother i think he was like 13 he had been abused and then he started having with a sister and so yeah i mean that's the kind of shit we dealt with but uh it makes sense it is those because the child as you're saying it's like the erection like an erection is not gonna know like we when we're kids like drawing stick figures you just be like but like you're like hey it's oh yeah or you're like hey look i got a stiffy yeah i mean you don't know what why at seven you don't fucking know that you have no clue fuck no you're like pp that's about the knowledge so that's actually a really good piece
Starting point is 01:20:25 of information where it's like hey if they know to that detail and it's the little things fucking start asking some questions on on that there was there was one line you put in the book that like again it's like i i'm i'm fully invested in everything and then i just like fuck like you just take me completely off guard it was was like, Jeff was good, but he wasn't that good. I'd suck in. Right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Like, oh, but I mean, in Christ. But I mean, he was telling me how horrible that'd be. There are very few things that you can be certain of in life, but you can always be sure the sun will rise each morning. You can bet your bottom dollar that you'll always need air to breathe and water to drink. And of course, you can rest assured that with Public Mobile's 5G subscription phone plans, you'll pay the same thing every month. With all of the mysteries that life has to offer, a few certainties can really go a long way. Subscribe today for the peace of mind you've been searching for. Public Mobile, different is calling. Jeff, it's kind of toothy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Are you doing a Yelp review? One star. Of the Karate Dojo? Yeah. That's it. She's going in various Yelp reviews. You ever know those podcasts that you're going to get canceled for like ahead of time you know while you're filming it you're like oh yeah it's going to be this one for sure no but all we're trying to do with this podcast spring awareness to
Starting point is 01:21:56 abuse and you know just trying to help other well and hopefully this model's like you you don't have to be you know scored for life i mean yeah you know and don't have to be scored for life. I mean – Yeah. And don't get me wrong. It helps that I never have to run into Jeff at the grocery store. Jeff's got another karate team he's bringing on a karate trip knowing that he's probably abusing people. So that helps. But it's something that you can work through.
Starting point is 01:22:19 That's what you should take away. Yeah, right there. It helps that he doesn't exist anymore. Do that with your will if he ever gets cancer um no but that was that was one of the more interesting stories you tell in the beginning too is when uh you went uh to some it was like some wellness gym or something like that and you ran into a guy who looked like just like him no shit and so i mean me and my brother my dad were like huh and so on a car ride home i I was like, oh, my God, I thought it was Jeff.
Starting point is 01:22:47 And daddy goes, I didn't. I knew it wasn't him. You told that exact story. I knew it wasn't him. God damn, dad. Then there was another time he was out back and he was lighting a charcoal. And he goes, hey, you want to see Jeff? And I'm like, no, why would I want to see Jeff?
Starting point is 01:23:04 And he goes, if you do. And he lit the charcoal and he squeezed the light out to see jeff and i'm like no why would i want to see jeff and he goes if you do then he lit the charcoal and he squeezed the lighter he goes he goes look down there god he's in hell jesus christ that's fucking god gangster when was it like when did the joking about that start with your pops especially probably that summer that same summer because i mean we were at the gym and we were cooking a hamburgers that that summer and then that's what see that's fucking awesome your dad normalized like you it's that hard one was like normalizing both of you normalizing the behavior and where you can joke about it make it make it the best of the situation and then now look at you you're i would rather i'm sure a lot of people i can't speak for but a lot of people do probably appreciate that level of like lightness that
Starting point is 01:23:50 you bring to a we said a dark subject and you're like hey look fucking you're fine you you're helping people and then you're making light of it and then you're making us uncomfortable but laugh at the same time too because we all know it's dark we all know like this is a very serious topic and like everybody and their fucking mother knows that but when you can bring levity to it in a way like you make it less uncomfortable to talk about and like because everybody who's gone through that i imagine is constantly like you know anytime they have to reference it they're in that dark place but when you can bring levity to it it's like okay well this doesn't have to be awful to be able to talk about what we can do
Starting point is 01:24:25 about it. Yeah. Well, I know for this, I could never run for office just because of the things I've personalized in my book. Like by when I thought the same thing when I was, when I was little,
Starting point is 01:24:38 I, so the neighbor, we like, we were at the same age. She was like a little girl. I was a little boy. And we always joked that that was our first boyfriend and girl. We were each other's first boyfriend and girlfriend so when i ran into
Starting point is 01:24:48 her one day at this board i signed a book for it i said hey terry uh hope you enjoy terry my first girlfriend i hope you enjoy this book about my first boyfriend you know jesus man then i had a book signing i had a book signing and my childhood babysitter came over and i signed her book you were a much better babysitter than jeff oh and there's been many worse that i can't think of right now i've blocked i've actually blocked out what i put i love your book signing dude just the level of oh i love it just transparency and you're like and then i your reaction of watching them react to what you wrote because i know you're like yeah i'm like here read it because it's just kind of like us because it's like for you know half the times when we're making jokes like fucked up jokes about it's like the
Starting point is 01:25:42 joke ain't for you it's for me i want to see your reaction to it right right right it's entertaining yes i think we're fucked up if that's that i i've never thought about it's like i don't give a how you laugh at it i want to see how you react i like i like i like and maybe it'll show up on the video but i like how like there's that half a second we're just like wait mother you want to verify like that is what i think you just said it's not looking around like yeah they're uncomfortable trout put his head down warren covering his head it's it's that socialization where you're just like can't compute look to other monkeys like How does other members of the tribe react? She was like, I'm going to just take notes on what to edit out right now.
Starting point is 01:26:31 You know what the hard part about all this is? A lot of us make jokes that are just for us. Would you like to tell the joke about the joke for you when you ran into your girl? The one that you thought was funny? Which one? And I'll decide if we can keep it. Little pee-pee. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Okay, yeah. I can't say that. That was pretty funny. Little pee-pee? The girl I'm with now, very, very happy. Your wife. Yeah, clearly. Yes.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Hey, fuckersers i love it instantly brandon do everyone catch it everyone caught that i'm married i say wife because she's basically my fucking wife i say that about sav and then it doesn't even like it doesn't even hit in the back of my brain like it just it sounds right yeah but um yeah without the legal obligation exactly yeah best of both worlds but i uh i i gaslit her into thinking i had a tiny dick for the first month i'm still doing that for no fucking reason like i it was the only reason is because i thought it was hilarious but i kept making jokes about like well no that's like that's average i was a lot would plenty of people would say that's that's too big and just different things like that but like kept i kept going
Starting point is 01:27:49 farther and farther i'm like well like let's really it's not about the size of the dick it's how you use it and like just different things and she like got i could tell on her face she was getting genuinely concerned because we hadn't slept together yet and like it just kept going and going and going and finally like when we we ended up you know fucking she was just like oh thank god why do your friends call you baby dick because because he's got a switchblade that's this long yeah yo baby dick what's up have you been our friend switchblade y'all go for it oh but no she was like i could tell she was getting genuinely uncomfortable she's like god I really like this guy. I don't.
Starting point is 01:28:26 God, I hope he's good with his mouth. Cody. Jesus. See, you don't aim it. That's bad safety. I just watch his head pop onto the table. Zip lock bags out of the. Yeah, there.
Starting point is 01:28:41 So this is Cody's recent drunk purchase. I need it for that. Thanks to Warren. It's a microtech. Warren, you want to be on the podcast real quick? Come say hi. Do you want to deploy the... Yeah, you can deploy it. This is yours.
Starting point is 01:28:56 I've deployed it. I've deployed it. And trust me, I'm a horse. Warren is an amazing... He's a car guy. He's a friend. He came to one of the uh the first live show we did so a backstory warren warren can't how long have you been watching us uh a couple years couple
Starting point is 01:29:11 years so an og fan but he came to the first live show super kind and then he was like hey i got you fucking gifts and freddie wong my favorite response to i showed him yeah like warren fuck he's a he's a knife gun guy and he has an amazing collection freddie's like you are the only one that would have an audience that can bring fucking knives to your live shows and give them or sign them yes exactly i want to say one thing all right and this is directly at my little brother mikey okay what is it all right so this is a uh heretic hydra heretic is get in there get in there heretic is a company uh that's uh uh tony marfione uh junior and uh if you're familiar with microtech this is his son and and his spinoff company. And Tony Jr.
Starting point is 01:30:06 has been, well, he's been making some big knives lately. I brought something out to Demolition Ranch at our last event there, and this one is a 3X Hydra. Now, it's got a safety here. I don't know if everybody can see this.
Starting point is 01:30:22 I like it. It does have a safety. And then... I don't know if you can see this, but it is very thick. I mean, you can take a tree out with this. Almost as thick as the average San Antonio woman. Charles Barkley would appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Them big old women in San Antonio. Terrible in San Antonio. You can cut your tacos with this. And this is a single action, so with this one, unlike the other one where you have to use all your strength to try and get it to retract, this one you actually pull back, and there you go. Holy shit. So, yes. Cody had to have it. It was hilarious because you guys seen each other the next day after we were texting.
Starting point is 01:31:14 And you sent that video and then you're like, oh, my. Yeah. What the fuck? Thank you, Warren, you beautiful son of a bitch. If you want your girl to think you got a little dick, bring one of those home. Goddamn, that's slapping one on the table. That is a true Mexican switchblade. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe yesterday I had a Mimosa.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Why, because it works? I text Warren and I'm like, hey, what's up? He's like, hey, I'm at a local place that we hang out and I'm like, oh, do you have that giant knife? He's like, yeah, I've got the giant knife. So we went over there and we got
Starting point is 01:31:47 the thing. It's so cool. How fucking awesome would that be if they're like, no, at the price is right. How much for this knife? Yeah, how much would you think versus God? You got a fucking problem, I say?
Starting point is 01:32:04 No, that's not annoying this is enough yeah god how much how much was that it was like fifty dollars yeah yeah it was like 120 bucks yeah i'll give you a book and i'll try to get it yeah good luck sneaking that through What's the steel? What is that steel? I forgot. I flew. Yeah, it's real steel. No, that's really nice. What's the 390? That's very nice. It's sharp as fuck. Yeah, that's super nice.
Starting point is 01:32:34 You have no idea how long we spent stabbing a fucking ballistic, ballistic dummy gummy bear with that yesterday. Dude, it's just hefty. How did it penetrate? Honestly, the gel was too thick i don't know what i don't even know what the thumbnail title on this. And I don't know the clips. Because the show's going to be like, can we clip this? I don't know. I don't know. Because TikTok's going to have a heyday. They're like, how dare they?
Starting point is 01:33:14 A lot of white women are going to be very mad. What else is new? They don't give me no pussy anyways, so fuck them. Every time you fucking drop one of those, there's like three levels of like, that's not what he meant. That's absolutely what he meant. Please don't react the way you fuck.
Starting point is 01:33:36 And I just laugh involuntarily. I'm just having the best time right now. You started so hard. I was like, I was worried there was like two or three jokes. I was like, yay! I was worried. There was like two or three jokes. I'm like, man, this might be too far. And like after the first two minutes, I'm like, nah.
Starting point is 01:33:51 No fucking way. We're good. We're good. I'm sorry. My tism is. His tism is good audio. Yeah, good audio. Must make audio good.
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Starting point is 01:35:32 I've never gotten into a vehicle accident. Never got into a wreck before. Too late to knock on wood, dude. I was like, man, Captain Hindsight. Outside my neighborhood, there were sprinklers and i took this curve this curve that i would take normally at this speed and the fucking t-rex spun around and i try to control it and i'm normally good at controlling myself and shit like that and just rammed it into a tree t-rect yeah i no longer have a fucking t-rect yeah which i was amazed because once i saw like i left your neighborhood and i saw exactly where you hit i'm like holy fuck it was a small tree i think how much it did to the truck i think replacing
Starting point is 01:36:18 the engine a couple months ago like had something to do with it because it fucking took off on me and like my friend that was in the car at the time was like it because it fucking took off on me. My friend that was in the car at the time was like, why the fuck did it take off on you? I know how to correct. I know how to do these things. It was just full acceleration. I've been through so many offensive
Starting point is 01:36:38 and defensive driving courses. It just fucking took off on me. Offensive driving is when you just yell the N-word out the window. That is true. That is true. But, you know. Playing spoons.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Yeah. But anyways, I fucking wrecked my TRX. The TRX starts flying. I just picture a course where that's what you have to do. We're teaching offensive driving. You have to read out as you drive by it is like you sent that photo i was like oh god damn son because you told me we were just boxing that day and you told me like oh yeah cody got in a little fender bender and then i saw the picture i'm like fuck oh my god because i was like it's a little one huh and he's like really
Starting point is 01:37:20 i was like god did cody tell you and he's like no i was like was like, yeah. Did Cody tell you? And he's like, no. I was like, oh, shit. Okay. Yeah, it was a small little fender bender. And then you sent the picture. He's like, what the fuck? Bro, like that little tree destroyed the TRX. I broke my collarbone. That was like a Chad Jawline level tree. Yeah, yeah, no. That thing didn't go down at all.
Starting point is 01:37:40 And so for reference, when Cody set his engine, he had, you had what? A couple hundred miles or a thousand? And then engine he had you had what a couple hundred miles or a thousand and then i had only are eight thousand miles on it and the injured brand new truck blew up just blew up so they took it for two weeks it took and it took a month dude they had it for a month yeah because we were texting back and forth like hey like they make they need to pay for the rental and all that shit like okay okay okay and then they put in the new one and when he was like yeah the car oversteered and then i was like what the why wasn't traction control kicking on why was it taking off my first response to you was something does not sound right about that entire engine or
Starting point is 01:38:22 whatever they did they don't build them like they used to. My Raptor motor blew up at like 50,000 miles. I don't know what the fuck that is. Something fucked up, dude. Because my friend who was in the car with me at the time was like, why did it take off like the... It was weird, man.
Starting point is 01:38:39 And traction control, you have to turn that off manually, right? I don't know. Not on the TRX. I have no idea. A lot of modern cars, you have to turn that off manually right i don't know not on the trx i have no idea it should a lot of modern cars you have to go in and like hold a button to turn that shit off so it's like oh okay i'm disabled now and then you can rip around do stupid shit but that just cody's just driving he's like nope i'm gonna break loose and then slam into a goddamn tree did you look at the tree when you over corrected just the back end went around on me and i went to correct because i know how to i know how to fucking drive i can drive like you not as good as you but i can drive like you and the mother
Starting point is 01:39:16 we all want to drive like eli when we grow up i know it just went retarded ah it was weird middle of the day cars do stupid shit. You're like, ah, okay, that was a little terrifying. Speaking of which, did he scare you with the McLaren? No, he was slow. Oh, were you? No, he did a good job, but I was scared. But I kept telling myself he's still alive, so he must be able to handle his
Starting point is 01:39:37 car. But yeah. I was like, no, I could tell. I'm not used to the guns, the knives, and the fast cars. Definitely and the fast cars. Definitely not the fast women. Our autobiography. Fast cars, fast women. Fast guns.
Starting point is 01:39:55 He was a soft-sloped version of driving. Oh, no. Uh-oh. So he was gentle? Yes. I let him drive it on my lap. It was crazy. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 01:40:11 We pull up. I'm like, what's up, guys? I told him. I said, I ain't falling for this shit again. Yeah. Fool me. Fool me. Fool me once.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Shame on you. Fool me once. Fool me twice. You can't be fooled again. Can't be fooled again. Come on, Tiger. As they say in Texas, I want your feet to reach the pedals. You're like, I'm taller than you, Eli. Shit, I almost had a sin of his left to get out of that motherfucker, man.
Starting point is 01:40:38 It's like sitting on your back. Oh, yeah, it's not uncomfortable. It's comfortable when you're getting in or getting out. Getting out is terrible, especially when you have a pinched nerve oh you gotta fall in yeah literally you just fall into it also fucking stupid that was the only time where i turned traction control i just went to go around somebody really quick i was like assholes in the way so it's like where are you going 50 so i was like i'll just gun it really quick and then go around this is the only car at 50 miles per hour i just gun it was like it kicked fully sideways i was like whoop like i
Starting point is 01:41:11 full sideways go like this i was like that part they probably looked at me and i was like hi and then straightened i was like i just picture you with like the fucking like deal with the shades like 50 degrees over stare at them oh yeah i forgot a little more power than i'm used to yeah but it's a blast it's a blast now you're actually so he's only shot a handful of guns i was surprised i think i've shot one gun a handful of times no shit yeah just like all Just like... What gun? It was a 9mm. Ah, nice. Solid. Good round. I wonder if it was like a.38.
Starting point is 01:41:52 I know. I was like, it's going to be a.38. I would have, but it was taken away by the judge apparently. Yeah. We'll have to ask the judge's kid and see where that gun ended up. Yeah, that would be nice. And it's a Smithsonian with the shirt. Discover the exciting action of BetMGM Casino. Check out
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Starting point is 01:42:41 We can make replicas. I've made a replica of it. Someone sent the artwork and i just upload the file to amazon and i get a hat and i actually the girl my ex did the t-shirts um i'm sure she can do hats too so whenever you provide the link which now i find my phone um you know people probably order it from there as well yeah absolutely what was your reaction watching like brandon how much did you watch a brandon stuff before that video never heard of him no shit no he was better off actually yeah no i'd go on tiger droppings because that's like
Starting point is 01:43:15 love the name yeah right every time you say i'm like you're like i'm on tiger droppings.com i was like this is that's the most jarring thing you said it's it's the poop about lsu tigers you know so um someone said herrera films gary plosche father's day video and they i'm jody plosche on they so they know me and so i was like shit i clicked on it and that i was like all right so then after that i watched the video i even showed my mother my mother enjoyed it um oh that's oh that's a reaction video. Dude, that's such a good reaction video. You guys reacting to watching that together.
Starting point is 01:43:50 And so, yeah, so I watched the JFK video where he, you know, to me proved that Oswald at least didn't hit him in the head from behind. And then I watched a couple of the Darwin dorwin awards oh yeah the darwins is yeah and if you're gonna have me someone who like has nothing to do with guns nothing to do with politics sit down and watch these video and actually enjoy them that was the best part about it um and again i really appreciate the the safetiness that you stress as far as being a responsible gun handler and gun owner.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Oh yeah. Sure. Cause like, and that's what we were talking about a little bit beforehand is like, look, if you're like, I absolutely advocate for, you know,
Starting point is 01:44:33 gun ownership and everything like that. But if you're going to have it, not that I want it government mandated, but everybody has a certain level of responsibility when they, when they take that on, when you own a gun, when you carry a gun, especially it's like you, you need, you owe it to yourself and everybody you're around to have a certain level of
Starting point is 01:44:49 a marksmanship like your father exhibited and also just gun safety and in regards of like keeping yourself safe especially if you have kids in the house and things like that there's certain levels of things that you need to think about my best friend dave that wrote the forward to the book um he put it in a way that I kind of liked. He's like, a gun, I'm specifically talking about protection, not for like shooting, you know, for sport or whatever. He said a gun should be like a spare tire. You know, you take it out only when you need it.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Yeah. So I was like, oh, that's a pretty good answer. The thing I was always told and i kind of kind of stuck with me was a gun is more like a parachute uh if you have one and don't need it you're fine and if you need one and don't have it you'll never need one again yeah you're fucked you're that 10 year old jody it is the gun ownership so weird because it is it's the one thing we don't talk we talk a lot about but like the ownership of it or even when you're carrying i'm very big on if you carry
Starting point is 01:45:53 just as brain is saying practice yeah god damn it you if you can't don't shoot like this i mean i can shoot like that that's a baton rouge thing right there. No, it's like, that's Baton Rouge. The Baton Rouge. We need to come up with a shot, the Baton Rouge shot. Oh, like a drink? Yeah, because we already have the Kyle Rittenhouse. Oh, there's an HVR. Yeah, yeah. It's like an HVR.
Starting point is 01:46:17 You have to hold it like this. Come on, now. You missed the obvious. Because you know the Kyle Rittenhouse shot. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Is, what is that? However many shots. Three shots onittenhouse shot. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Is, what is that? However many shots.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Three shots on a chaser. Yep. Yeah, I forgot you did that one. That was during the. So the Baton Rouge shot's pretty clear, right? Vodka with a splash of milk. I know where that joke is. You got to warm it up oh he has less of a line than anyone i know
Starting point is 01:46:50 and i love it do you have any do you have any idea how hard it is to make the host of this podcast speechless you're like one of the first people that i've watched people like we're like like i don't know what to say right now no but again all of that is just a testament to how how uh much you've done with with the situation that you were handed and uh and and the advocacy and and making people feel comfortable talking about stuff like it really that that is kudos to you man hopefully i don't
Starting point is 01:47:35 make them so uncomfortably turn off you know what i'm saying like we'll see what the watch time stats that's what one of the things was with the book is like my mother was like you should have put more details and i'm like and she'll be like i don't sound like that and i'm like yeah you do um but uh i hope your mom sounds exactly like i don't i don't i told her i told her i was like look i said i was faced with a challenge okay i had to write a book that was not going to trigger a victim so i didn't want to go into details to where someone who'd been victimized puts the book down i'm not going to read this and i also didn't want to fucking file jerking off to it you know so i tried to create a balance i didn't think about that yeah when you were reading it last night good you didn't think about jerking off well not
Starting point is 01:48:17 god damn it not that i was actually jerking him off. Brandon, I'm so... Goddamn. No, and my mother was like, no, you make... Eli's just fucking basking in this right now. Man, this is really hard to J-O too. Not my most shameful, but... Jesus, fuck. Fucking hell. But you did a fantastic job
Starting point is 01:48:49 I didn't even think of that flip side Where you're like Hey you have a guy Like cause it is very true You're like Hey Okay That never entered
Starting point is 01:48:58 Our mindset But that is your Forward thinking on it It's like hey yeah I have Here's how this could go though It could be penthouse forum For some fucking Yeah yeah You get too descriptive some piece of shit is gonna the most
Starting point is 01:49:10 difficult part for me was when you were talking about or when you when you were quoting the i think it was a deposition with your father when they asked him what he knew that was my favorite part i think of the book really because they take the break and they come back okay well we don't need to go into details um but i actually i did leave one thing out that he actually said um but for those who have not read the book yet so they're asking my dad to deposition and they're like you know what information did you have as far as what had happened to Jody because it was pretty fresh because like it was not publicly available what had happened right so my dad's like well you know I don't think we know need to go into detail but you know he that he you know that he fooled with him you know he's just be a daddy
Starting point is 01:49:47 fool with him and the lawyer's like no no no you need to go into details um because should i read it actually quote by quote so i get it right um so he my dad's like look we really don't need to go there like why we know he did things to him, but in the, why are we trudging it up? Yeah. The lawyer wouldn't. And the lawyer goes,
Starting point is 01:50:08 you know, we'll determine what details are relevant. And so my dad went all Samuel L. Jackson. Well, he's looking for that is the idea of it. You're trying not to also produce something like a tutorial for future. Essentially. We're like, Hey, I can't give it like like I can't allude to some stuff because it will do that.
Starting point is 01:50:30 It's all those thoughts that never registered in my head. It's like, oh, yeah, like the responsibility aspect. It's just like, oh, yes, it's crazy to even think that way. Yeah. All right. So the lawyer. Well, of course, to some extent, the details may become relevant. And so I need to know as best you know, my dad.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Well, he was talking off about every day and as many times as he could a day. He heard his back one time and my brother-in-law went and rented a walker for him to help him. And he would prop up with the walker and get him in front of a mirror. He would do it in mcdonald's he would do it in anywhere that he could find places to do it in a car he would take his he would take his shirt off and wipe his thing off with that and just throw out in the street and he was just you know i mean just nasty low down filthy stuff which he violated my son's right but none of that has been told directly to you by jody no so my mother i'd shared that
Starting point is 01:51:34 information with my mother and she you know as my father she felt he need you know even when he started in the paragraph before that when he started off on the stuff that he knew it was like that was one of those moments that just like hit me like a ton of bricks like oh fuck me like it was just well that was the one of the parts where i actually did leave the details in because i don't think the file would be looking well let's see what gary has to say yeah yeah yeah and as a father like his cody's like registering like me like dude again for your pops and that is for your pops because i would have done like the rage for riding or kiddo like or john it is the rage would be unbridled fucking hatred somebody commented too on the on the uh the the shooting video that we did uh i just happened to open my comments at one point and saw like this was one of the top ones.
Starting point is 01:52:25 It's like, why, Gary? Why? Quote. Dumbest question of the 20th century. And it's like every father. Yeah, but it's not. You realize Mike Burnett is the one who actually sat my parents down when the hospital report came back positive. So Mike Burnett, when he's asking why, Gary, why, why did you?
Starting point is 01:52:44 He knew why he fucking shot him yeah he was asking him gary why would you put yourself to be put in a position to be prosecuted right where you're going to jail for the rest of your life and you got four kids at home and a wife so that's why he was like you know gary why that's what he's asking he knows why he did it yeah and he yeah they had his deposition was great too they're like this this mike they were like well when did you realize that gary had shot jeff he goes when i turned around and saw gary holding the gun like that's why i said why gary why and then you i mean court the the jurors set the town they're like he pled no contest contest he actually got a plea deal
Starting point is 01:53:26 because they weren't going to convict my dad for shooting Jeff in Baton Rouge not in 1980 especially with the rags out the window testimony what did he plead it down to he pled no contest to manslaughter he was sentenced to 7 years hard time suspended 500
Starting point is 01:53:42 300 hours community service more community service and five years probation and his probation officer um you know his his son has told me in the you know messaged me that you know my dad was his favorite person he ever supervised because my dad wasn't a criminal outstanding yeah he was an outstanding citizen but he was a pillar of the community i mean he coached literally he coached he didn't know shit about soccer but he was an outstanding citizen. I mean, he was a pillar of the community. I mean, he coached literally. He coached. He didn't know shit about soccer, but he was coaching soccer. He was on the sideline. You know, he was involved with his kids.
Starting point is 01:54:09 You know, I'll tell you this about my dad. In 1977, I think, my brother started playing peewee football. And I was the water boy, so I would have been like five years old. Well, that team my dad coached was the only team in Baton Rouge that was integrated. We were mixed, and we would go play the Southside Rams. They were all black. We'd go play the Marydale Warriors. They were all black.
Starting point is 01:54:37 We'd go play the Broncos. They were all white, little fucking pricks. And then we'd go play the Mustangs, and they were all white. And the Mustangs might have one really good ringer on their team that was black um but so he did that with football and he made sure everyone played you know one if it was one play he made sure everyone got in the game and he's coached softball and baseball he coached like i said soccer which he knew nothing about um and and so everyone everyone knew my dad my dad sacrificed the 1979 if you go look at i just you got lsu shot glasses if you google like greatest game in lsu tiger stadium and tiger stadium is known for its you know being the one of the greatest stadiums of all time. In 1979, USC was ranked number one.
Starting point is 01:55:27 They had two Heisman Trophy winners on that team. They came to Baton Rouge. My dad took us to New Orleans to play against another team in the Superdome. So my dad knew he had to miss the LSU-USC game because he didn't have to. It wasn't scheduled, but my dad took it like the week of he had to give up his you know presence at that game and it's known as the greatest tiger football game of all an lsu game in tiger stadium um so he he sacrificed that so my everyone knew my dad was a good person he was a great man and i'm gonna tell you this um take away the shooting he's still he's still the father of the year what is your favorite core
Starting point is 01:56:06 memory of your pops favorite core memory like something where you're like man this is one of my favorite moments with my pops that really registers just as a dad being a dad like either fun or something where he instilled something into you i think the my favorite moment with my father was, I think it was like September 30th, 2002. You're really good with dates. He flew up. You even say that in the book. You're like, the date was exactly this at this time. Don't ask me why.
Starting point is 01:56:38 I don't know why I know. And that's a testament to you. Even at lunch, I was like, man, this dude is fucking really good with dates. I can't tell you. Riding was born on. I know that date. That's about it. I'm like, bruh.
Starting point is 01:56:52 So him and my brother, little brother, they flew up. And actually, I got my little brother a free trip to New York City because I told him, I said, my dad can't drive alone. He needs someone with him. So my little brother and dad fly up to New York City. Because I told him, I said, my dad can't travel alone. He needs someone with him. So my little brother and dad fly up to New York City. Why is that? We were going on the John Walsh daytime talk show. No, no. He couldn't fly alone.
Starting point is 01:57:13 He was too good to get the little brother along. I was just trying to get my brother a free trip to New York. Oh, oh, oh. Yeah, I was like, Mikey, I got you a free trip to New York. And he goes, motherfucker, I don't get paid days off. I said, well, you're coming. So they came up. And we did the Circle Line tour in New York and he goes, motherfucker, I don't get paid days off. I said, well, you're coming. So they came up and we
Starting point is 01:57:27 did the Circle Line tour in New York City and my dad was like, this is one of the greatest days of my life. So I think just having that moment, that was pretty awesome. And then two days later, the motherfucker from Baton Rouge started sniping people in D.C. What'd you guys do together?
Starting point is 01:57:44 Was he a Baton Rouge guy? I didn't know that. Yeah, he had Baton Rouge ties. He had Baton Rouge started sniping people in D.C. What did you guys do together? Was he a Baton Rouge guy? I didn't know that. Yeah, he had Baton Rouge ties. He had Baton Rouge ties. The D.C. sniper? It was his nephew? Yeah, it was someone related. When we went on that show, I asked John Walsh because on October 2nd,
Starting point is 01:58:01 2002, they had the first White House conference on missing and exploited children. And so I asked John Walsh, I said, hey, you going on Wednesday? And he was like, yeah, are you? I'm like, I didn't get an invite. He goes, tell my people, I'll get you there. And so I'm sitting at DC on October 2nd, 2002 with John Walsh.
Starting point is 01:58:24 I shook George W. Bush's hand. That's the two presidents, Trump and Bush. And so on the way back, I drove literally through where the shooting started. And that was the day the first shooting started. So, oh yeah, I'm like Forrest Gump, dude. I was in fucking, I was in New York City on 9-11. No shit. I left at 3.30 in the morning. I was in New York City on 9-11. No shit.
Starting point is 01:58:45 I left at 3.30 in the morning. I had just got through seeing Michael Jackson in concert. And one of the producers of Michael Jackson's album was friends with a friend of mine. And he was like, man, let me get you a room. I'll put y'all up. I was like, no. I was with a flight attendant, and she had to get back to work. So I was like, she's flying out of Philadelphia at 11 o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 01:59:04 So we're leaving my apartment, going to the airport. And I was mad at her. So you dated the right flight attendant. Well, I was mad at her because she pulled the, I'm kind of dating somebody. So I took three women to the Michael Jackson concert and had zero sex. And so I was kind of mad. I wasn't talking to her. And so we're on,
Starting point is 01:59:25 we're on the drive to the airport and where I live used to be on the, the path where they circle around, you know? And so I'm listening to Howard Stern. They're like, all flights have been grounded. And I looked up. It was a beautiful day.
Starting point is 01:59:38 Perfectly clear day. Temperature, no humidity, beautiful. And by the time I got the Consulate Hawking PA, I had turned around because the towers had already collapsed and we went back to the hotel now i'm stuck with a uh and we're still really good friends but i'm just talking about how i felt at the time now i'm stuck
Starting point is 01:59:54 with this woman that won't have sex with me and she can't leave the biggest tragedy of the day yeah the biggest tragedy of the day no but uh there's there's there's other things i just can't think of right now but the most emotional rage my biggest god damn it harry potter oh yeah yeah that little thing oh yeah so i always relate 9-11 with with harry potter because i was in the eighth grade and the first harry potter book had just come out and so like we're reading the first harry potter and everyone's so happy about reading it and then we look up on one of the TVs they would have in the class and the fucking second plane hits the tower.
Starting point is 02:00:48 It was like, so I always relate 9-11 with Harry Potter. I remember being, I was in first grade when that happened. My fucking teacher, or my principal at the time, wheeled in a fucking TV into the room and was like, he literally did the detective movie shit it's like you're gonna want to see this brandon's like that's a circle a rectangle brandon being his young terrorism yeah yeah that was yeah that was that was my first grade experience he's coloring i know it's like coloring like this no no hold it like this
Starting point is 02:01:23 brandon's coloring like this at this age. Look, I wasn't that fucking dumb in first grade. Oh. It's kind of wild. God, that's wild to think about, like five years old. Goddamn box cutters. Seven at first grade? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:37 Six, seven? Yeah, about six or seven. I was born in November of 95. That's crazy. November what? 20. My dad's the 10th oh okay well my dad like i like to fuck with my mom i'm like your birthday has killed elvis presley babe ruth and aretha franklin holy shit i mean she's got a pretty good one my birthday finally got one i got jerry springer a couple years ago april 27th jerry springer's dead yeah yeah it's
Starting point is 02:02:05 like we all have our autism his is dates man yeah he just you know every fucking date i like yeah you're like my yes you know we're very thankful we got brandon out of the 27 club yeah oh i was fucking with you for a solid year i was upset yeah i did i ever tell you that? No. What? So you know the 27 Club. Like a lot of celebrities and like fans. Oh, yeah. Amy Winehouse. Jimi Hendrix. Kurt Cobain.
Starting point is 02:02:32 Like a lot of people died at the age of 27. Jimi Hendrix fucking. There's a whole list of people, like notable people that die at 27. And so like I wasn't in the best place at certain times in that year, but I just kept fucking with him, especially when we were in Vegas. I just kept betting on 27. I was paranoid the entire year he was 27 years old,
Starting point is 02:02:53 just looking at everyone. I've got a good thing going. I'd fucking die, dude. I wouldn't leave you guys on purpose. Brandon, why don't you do it? Did he give you soft kisses are you kissing them homies i picture you everyone knows you fucking comfortably in bed and you're like you're gonna make it to 28 cody or brandon
Starting point is 02:03:19 just a little gentle forehead kiss it's not gay if it's with a business partner. Exactly. That's what we say all the time. I know. That's the motto of the podcast. Say your joke. I was just thinking my fucking dad's birthday got the edmund fitzgerald but we had a great
Starting point is 02:03:47 song out of that oh yeah gordon lightfoot i love it yeah fuck yeah i told you classic rock that's my thing or classic or 70s music you know in general there's there's only a few artists that like when they come on i'm not trying to see what else is on the station it's like i'll i'll go back and forth but gordon lightfoot's on uh goddamn wilson phillips or debbie gibson i'm i'm in there i'm dialed in i'm 80s but um but yeah there's only there's only a few but gordon lightfoot is one of my favorites that was one with my dad like uh the the edmunds uh fitzgerald when that that came on he was just like, son, this is real music. Just turn it up.
Starting point is 02:04:26 Fucking great song. You can talk to me in six minutes. Roger, dad. Cody. Do the deed. Are we doing it? Yep. All right.
Starting point is 02:04:36 Guys. Wait. I haven't given the final. Oh, shit. I got it. Holy shit. You have more things? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 02:04:44 I was happy with this. Well, I'm taking that one back home. That's ours now. I got guns and knives and... Okay, y'all can have that motherfucker. That would go framed on the back. No fucking shit, right? I should have thought clearer
Starting point is 02:05:03 before I brought that in. You're not leaving with it, just you know that's ours now all right so this is your copy this is your copy right here but i've included a very special special gift it is my dad's 1982 83 hunting license holy he's dead so you can't get his autograph, but that's his signature right there. And that's for us? This is for you. Oh, my God. Yeah, for y'all. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:05:32 Oh, holy fuck. Bro, we got a fucking... That goes on the fucking... That goes on the wall. That's a shadow box right there, dude. Thank you. Shadow box, that under it. Holy shit.
Starting point is 02:05:43 Boom. Oh, that is a shadow that's very cool and he was hunting files in 84 i couldn't get you that one that wasn't an official permit seriously thank you so much for that that is that is incredible holy fuck that's amazing thank you dude i figured it i mean dude y'all paid tribute to my dad on the 40th anniversary on Father's Day. So, you know, I felt like that's something that, you know, y'all are obviously, you know, gun lovers and advocates for safety. So, yeah, I thought that would be like a little special thing to bring y'all. Dude, that's incredible.
Starting point is 02:06:19 Thank you. Thank you so much for that. Really. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you so goddamn much. And thank you for coming on. Thank you for sharing your story with us as well. you for having me it's a pleasure we're gonna close out but we're gonna do an after show cody's gonna close us out though and then we're gonna have
Starting point is 02:06:32 a little more fun well everyone thank you for joining one of my favorite episodes of the unsubscribe podcast today i was joined by eli double tap jody plushie brandon herrera and myself donut operators check out the after show on patreon let's go did he say it wrong though he said plushie okay i wasn't sure wait there's an after show it's like it's like 10 minutes so where we do karate yeah yeah bye guys and that's how it is you won't know my name will you see my face you won't know my name will you see my face Discover the magic of BetMGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out
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