Unsubscribe Podcast - 180 - Hollywood Ruins Joker & Rings Of Power ft. Nerdrotic | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 180

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Tara Schmidt, a registered dietitian and host of On Nutrition, a podcast for Mayo Clinic where we dig into the latest nutrition trends and research to help you understand what's health and what's hype. There's a lot of wild stuff out there, so we'll be keeping it science-based, research-informed and practical. Mayo Clinic's On Nutrition, new episodes every other week, wherever you get your podcasts. Their morals are so f***ing upside down, they don't know good for bad anymore. What was the budget?
Starting point is 00:00:35 A billion dollars. Wait, what's white passing? You're white passing, Eli. Wow, I don't like the Jews. Holy s***. Speaking of which, what do you think about the Israel situation right now? Son of a b****. I don't need to start right now.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Hey guys, we are announcing, officially announcing the dates to buy live show tickets. Unsubscribe is going back on tour. Eli DoubleTap's going to be there. Fat Electrician is going to be there. Mr. Angry Cops, Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator, we're all going to be there. Fat Electrician is going to be there. Mr. Angry Cops. Brandon Herrera and myself, Donut Operator. We're all going to be there. It's fucking awesome. Tickets go live on the 11th of this month.
Starting point is 00:01:10 That's Friday. That is Friday. If you don't buy one, you're fucking lame. If you're on Pepperbox or Patreon, we're going to give you guys a pre-sale code on Wednesday earlier than everybody else. We're going to be in Nashville, November 14th. Norfolk, not Norfolk. We fucking read the comments. November 15th. San Diego on November 14th. Norfolk, not Norfolk. We fucking read the comments. November 15th.
Starting point is 00:01:26 San Diego on November 16th. November 17th at the Granada Theater in Dallas. December 4th in Atlanta, Georgia. We're going to be in Boston December 5th. And December 6th in Buffalo, New York. That's my hometown. I'm going to ticket all the parked cars. Hope to see you guys there again.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Tickets go sell Friday the 11th. And we are super excited to hang out with everyone out there. Thank you guys there again tickets go sell friday the 11th and we are super excited to hang out with everyone out there thank you guys so much look out for the dwi checkpoint you want to pop that top i'll pop that waddy ready three two one oh yeah oh mine splooged yeah it do leaks sometimes i do that all the time. It's never happened to me at home. I'm sorry. That's why Sav's so disappointed
Starting point is 00:02:12 every time. I kissed you. You're just so... You're just so pretty. I'll get over it, babe. Just give me time. Just do ten minutes in a Gatorade. Cody, you ready?
Starting point is 00:02:30 I need electrolytes. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe Podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tap, Mr. Nerd Roddick. Hello. Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator, and we're going to talk about how much we love Disney. They're great. And then Chase. They're great. And then Chase now put his face with the... Like a Disney hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:02:52 This is great. Oh, yeah. He's the new Snow White. Oh, that's right. You just got to include the bit from Family Guy. Just don't ride the train ride. Well, we're in a world now like I wouldn't be snow white if i was white but since i'm a dude i can now be snow white as long as i don't identify as a dude yeah yeah that's what we live in brave new world for white
Starting point is 00:03:17 men it's a scary world for life dude it's been it's been a while your last episode fucking killed you're at like we had you at 900 000 you're at 1.1 one point you're about to hit 1.2 yep you're fucking killing the game all right hell yeah thanks to you guys no not that's all you appreciate thanks to shitty cinema yeah thanks thanks to hollywood and the access media for creating this giant void in truth and authenticity that where an idiot like me can have a show with a million subs, which is insane. It hasn't even really set in
Starting point is 00:03:54 yet. You're killing it. You're literally slaying it. Watching your numbers, especially during this, and you're very big on it. You're like, yo, this is dope because of them. You are sorry. The reason and then you're very big on you're like yo this is dope because of them you were sorry the reason the the little sphere we're in this little corner of youtube exists is because well you know us nerds we would go to those stupid nerd websites like cbr and uh uh bleeding cool for comic books or screen rant and like we get legit news at one point like years ago but then 2016 happened and like hollywood completely changed overnight and all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:04:33 like the colliders of the world which is on youtube just got overtly political and then started attacking fans and once you started attacking fans they were done they just didn't know what that they still don't know it at some point. And the fans. It's not good because you hate women. Not because it's not good, but because you hate X group. Tell the fans what they are doing wrong. That always.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Fuck you all. Works every time. And they move the goalposts. Right. So first, you didn't understand it. Right. First, you don't understand it. Like the new one is media illiteracy. Like you don't understand it. First, you don't understand it. The new one is media illiteracy.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You don't understand how good The Last Jedi was. No, we understand that it sucked. And then it was Star Wars was always political. It was always woke, which it wasn't. And now it's just like, well, you're just a bigot.
Starting point is 00:05:21 It just rotates through those. It's a cycle. It's a cycle of retardation that we have to deal with all the time uh i love i love the coping phase you missed the last part the cope phase where it's uh the marvels uh did terrible in the box office why that's a good thing yeah oh yeah those articles are my favorite and it's a good thing is my favorite and i love flipping all using their language against them is brilliant. The latest one right now is with Joker 2, which we're going to talk about. I can't wait. Brandon actually.
Starting point is 00:05:53 So I did not know this. Brandon brought it up before you got there at breakfast this morning. He was like, I got questions pertaining to the Joker 2. I didn't know it was out already. Me neither. And he was showing the post. There's a fan screening that pertaining to the Joker, too. I didn't know it was out already. Me neither. And he was showing the... There's a fan screening that was Monday at time of recording. So they actually...
Starting point is 00:06:11 And I like that Warner Brothers does this. They do fan screenings before media screenings. So the fans can buy tickets to go see IMAX. Unfortunately, they released the movie and it sucked. Unfortunately, they released the movie. Yes. If they had not released it it it would have been better but um you know the people who did have access and reviews what we're hearing from like the hollywood reporters is oh this was a
Starting point is 00:06:33 troll of the fans like it was the troll of the incels and i don't know if you guys remember five years ago when the joker came out uh there was a bunch of media leading up to it saying it was going to cause incel violence to the point where there were metal detectors yeah there were metal detectors and what's funny is like i i saw it new york at the time and i walked through a metal detector what was funny is the actual violence that happened during that time was in a frozen two movie where so so it didn't cause any incel violence at all. So it, and it, and you want to talk about media literacy. If you watch the movie, it's not about incels at all. And an argument can be made.
Starting point is 00:07:13 It was like pre remember this came out a few months before the summer of love. So there's even some Antifa elements in it, right? That's not everything I agree with politically but it's a good movie what's funny is five five months later there was actual violence that the media was calling uh mostly peaceful you know so they were trying to gaslight they they wanted to will that into existence so it almost feels like the director uh todd Todd Phillips, who I like was apologetic for that first movie because of that reaction. And holy shit. I love Todd Phillips as a director.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Like the hangover war dogs. Like this guy's done a lot of cool stuff. Joker. Like usually I like his shit, but I am, I was shocked because I, again, I didn't know anybody had seen the movie yet.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I didn't even know what was coming out, but I just saw on IMDb. It was at like a 5.9 and falling and that for the new joker for the new joker the old joker was that like an 8.4 which like the old joker if you watch that that is it's a great change from they tried something new top philips did and it worked like for that take on joker you're like holy shit okay this is really really dope joaquin phoenix amazing actor get to see what he can do and then you see how dark they went with it with the subway scene or the live talk show host scene you're like yep yeah it was a slow and cool like
Starting point is 00:08:38 nobody wants a joker origin he's never supposed to have an origin i didn't know i wanted the movie but when you see the slow burn, and it actually leads to this really open-ended ending, which is was it all in his head? Was half of it in his head? What's going on? You see the transformation in the Joker, and it was supposed to be a one-off and something you can
Starting point is 00:08:57 debate till the end of time. Not anymore. If you go watch this movie, it completely fucks up the first one. When I got home, I almost tossed my Steelbook Blu-ray in the trash. I'm like, I'm never watching this movie again. Como estas, bitches?
Starting point is 00:09:13 We should have a shot of vodka and beans. Why are you here? When your boy brings the boys energy. Why can you swallow that and not the egg? Right, dude? That tastes like what factory tortillas smell like. Everyone get out of here right now. No, he's not getting hard cut.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That sounds fucking gross. I have a pretty good idea of how this is gonna go. Welcome to my show. Welcome back to Let Him Cook. Without spoilers, can you say like, hey, this was like, so Brandon, this morning you said it was like a musical yes yeah yeah it's a musical with lady gaga which at first when i saw that i was like wow that's
Starting point is 00:09:52 bold i'm holding out i have faith i like the director i'm willing to give it a shot now i'm hearing all this shit i'm like like, I'm not even confident I'm going to go see it. Yeah. Even like, I think the audience and the critics are in a rare agreement on this one, not for the reasons why, but they both pretty much think it sucks. And I saw it and it sucks. And I respect what he was trying to do, but the musical bits are the worst part in it.
Starting point is 00:10:21 They, they stop. It feels like the story is going somewhere. And well, the music doesn't even fit to what's going on in the scene. Usually a musical like tells the story. It's just, we're going to sing some oldies in the middle of the scene to pad some
Starting point is 00:10:34 time. I don't know. And, and I can't tell you the difference. There's different style of singing. There's actual singing. And then there's this like mumbly. It's like a normal person singing a song like
Starting point is 00:10:46 it's like that's what it is it's freaking terrible and uh i think it's a troll i don't know if it's troll the audience i don't know if it's troll of warner brothers it was trolling the the film but like you know this one cost 200 million dollars the other one costs $55 million. 98 went to Lady Gaga. Yes. Fair. And Joaquin Phoenix. They're trolling the investors. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Whatever. They're not going to be trolling the box office because the tracking is horrible for it. So I think it's going to flop. You think they like him doing the dancing scene down the stairs in the first one? They're like, we should make a whole movie of this. Maybe. Oh, I hate Cody. Oh, i hate that that's probably what happened they're like look at all the memes that came from the him this because everyone loves the little version of him oh this will make it viral i forgot it was a little joker meme that was pretty good i guarantee
Starting point is 00:11:40 that's what happened cody yep that's exactly what happened. It's hard to say. Hollywood's blend of retardation and incompetence is unbelievable. Being in charge of a lot of money, by the way. What was the... Mobius is the perfect example. They took that meme. Morbius? Morbius. Morbius.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Morbius. It's Morbentime. It's Morbentime. That was so fucking funny. A meme. morbius yeah morbius morbius yeah morbius let's make different time it's morbid time yeah they took so fucking funny a meme and then hollywood in their infinite wisdom were like oh we need to relaunch this because it's taking off and then they made like 10 grand i think uh i don't know about 10 grand but they didn't make much it was they lost money re-releasing it. That was the Hollywood version of the fucking AMC stock troll. Yeah. I just like Hollywood bought in.
Starting point is 00:12:30 They're like, bro, it's taken off. We need to put this back in the theaters. They won it. And then it's like, well, while they were writing the new Joker, was that not during the writer's strike while they were writing that? I think so. So they were pulling from the bottom of the barrel. I mean, most everything we're seeing was either around that time i don't know for sure but um todd phillips said he didn't want to make a sequel forever and they just backed up enough
Starting point is 00:12:54 the brinks truck with enough money where he's like they suffered from success where it did so fucking well in the box office he's like all right i didn't want to make one but 20 million is 20 20 million 20 million and that's how much joaquin phoenix made i think lady gaga made uh 12 million and they're gonna lose uh tens of millions i'd make passion of christ three if you offer me yeah i'm gonna figure out how to make this script happen just funny fucking jesus coming in like t1000 I'm going to figure out how to make this script happen. You know fucking Jesus coming in like T-1000? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I mean, it could be German Day. I mean, we could do it. Yeah. Right? Schindler's List 2? Yep, $20 million. I'm going to find a way, dog. He's going to kick off the right just to make a way, dog. He's gonna kick off the with right just to make a documentary about it.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Everyone will find a way to make that. Lady Gaga's your star? Yeah, no, it's like, but, but, Schindler's this too. No, Schindler has to be a black lesbian. Like a space witch? Yes. Like a real hero.
Starting point is 00:14:04 A real hero. And a real hero. A real hero. And a real human being. Yeah. I think this is more offensive. I don't know why. It just feels more offensive. I love how you like, who's a Jew? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Lady Gaga. I wasn't even thinking about that. I was like, goddamn it. I was like, Lady Gaga could still be in Schindler's List too. Like, shit, Kevin. You're like, Lady Gaga could still be in Schindler's List, too. I'm like, shit, dude. Accidental. Like, fuck. Okay, this works.
Starting point is 00:14:35 You've been killing it with everything going on, especially with the content world, because now we have Lord of the Rings. I will not say Lord of the Rings. Yeah, Rings of Power. Rings of Power. Sorry. It's alright. Tolkien. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Watching the last, as you said, have you guys watched the last episode? Just watching the battle sequence. I haven't seen any of them. I haven't even tried to watch it because his video is above my timeline and I'm like, I'm not watching it. You and Critical Drinker tell me what to watch it because his video is above my timeline. And I'm like, I'm not watching it. I'm not watching it.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You and Critical Drinker tell me what to watch. Oh, well, thanks. Yeah. We try to save people time. It's part of our service, you know, of watching bad TV. But, yeah, nobody's watching this. It lost, like, 60% of its audience. If you want a good reference, two episodes of Unsub does more viewership than the entire series right now it's like 900 000 it was at 900 000 for the premiere over uh five days and i'm sure you guys could
Starting point is 00:15:32 eclipse that easily okay the budget the budget was insane what was the budget a billion dollars billion dollars this is a billion dollars and they just had their worst episode for season two it's in total okay okay god i was gonna say so it's like 465 million for season one and then they moved from new zealand to the uk which cost them money and then they had to rebuild all the studio a special uh studio just for it so yeah it's well over a billion because i know they had to buy the rights from the tolkien family they did and it's just some of the rights it's the appendices uh at the end of lord of the rings basically at the end of return of the king uh they can like use some stuff from the books it was the they they didn't they ended up cheaping out on these
Starting point is 00:16:17 yeah they couldn't get the they they could have uh and they didn't for some reason and then they hired a lord of the ring at tolkien expert and then they for some reason. And then they hired a Lord of the Rings, a Tolkien expert and then they fired a historian. And then they fired historian because he was arguing. It's like hey that It's just like the Henry Cavill Witcher thing. Like hey this is trash.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Exactly. This not work. Orcs and elves wouldn't have a the orcs and the elves come together in a battle and have a talk off they have they they parlay they do it it's fucking insane it's like angels and demons sitting down and you know during the battle uh you know during revelations and like having some tea it's like it makes no sense but it's it's i. So without getting too deep in the lore, uh, the last episode was the biggest betrayal because,
Starting point is 00:17:08 uh, and I don't care what their fucking rationalization is for it. They had a Galadriel making out with Elrond, her future son-in-law. All right. Which is going to make dinner at Lothlorien and, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:22 and Rivendell, Rivendell, like fucking like really uncomfortable and um and it's a long kiss so they tried to they tried to like explain no he was just passing or something it wasn't a romantic it was a romantic kiss and that's like I can't even think of a analogy that fits it'd be like uh like Star Wars episode four, having a brother sister kissing. Yeah. But at least George Lucas, like at the time they weren't brother and sister and he changed his mind
Starting point is 00:17:49 later. This is like having the Virgin Mary make out with Satan. I think that's the best analogy for it. It's it makes, you know, well, that would be of her shipping Sauron. Sorry,
Starting point is 00:17:59 I'm getting mixed up, but it's fucking ridiculous. And it got the fandom all pissed off and and it's it was just like the it was the worst offenses against a worst offense i've seen against uh lore in and all the shit i've and i all the acolyte and star wars and doctor who and star trek and everything i've seen that was the single worst thing thankfully nobody's watching it so it's not in the zeitgeist as much as like the acolyte was that was the big one for me because like i i thank god i never fucking watched it but the idea of immaculate conception through the force it's like
Starting point is 00:18:36 okay cool so the skywalker saga means nothing the only thing that made anakin skywalker special special in any way shape or form like other than just being a slave boy that was bought by a 40 year old Jedi which is kind of weird but well that's that's that's what they try to do that's why they you came back from that mission and you bought a child you just fill in a mug the fuck's
Starting point is 00:18:58 that all about what's up you good at speed racing dog thankfully he died um you just made darth maul the good guy he's just saving fucking anakin from trauma that old man just bought that kid yeah well by the time disney's done palpatine is the good guy i'm i mean like did you see the rise of skywalker You know, like I agree. Yeah, examples but the acolyte was so predictably bad and that the power of one the power of two that that witch scene went so freaking viral i couldn't believe it you know i might if you were just taking clips out of the show at the time
Starting point is 00:19:57 on twitter cody what this is because cody like oh you have no idea because i saw this up like i said like i started to like i thought about watching it and then i would just go to your thumbnails and i would watch a couple like a couple of your videos like i'm not watching this shit now i watched that that came across my twitter that that scene and i thought it was actually no no it was again critical drinker i saw the little clip that he put in his video i'm like that that's not edited no that's somebody's final sin final draft yes what's the witch scene okay okay so just like with galadriel making out with elrond these scenes make it past i can hundreds of people i mean that might be a high estimate but we're talking about uh agents executives executive
Starting point is 00:20:39 producers script supervisors uh line producers everything so let's just say 80 people it makes it past 80 people going i have no problem with that you know uh that's why in wonder woman 84 patty jenkins wrote wonder woman dude we won't get into that that got past oh that is true that did happen that did happen uh oh i forgot yeah adriel and elrond making out made it past a lot of people so this witch scene where yes yes, the witches, the power of many, can immaculately conceive identical twins who, as
Starting point is 00:21:12 kids, aren't identical at all. They look like they have different fathers. They probably do. And then they do this communist lesbian space witch singing that they were proud of. They even brought the composer of the song. And when we clipped this out,
Starting point is 00:21:32 so it was just a, it was basically an initiation for these two twins that were conceived by whatever. It's not called the force. It's called the thread. Am I confusing you yet? I'm confused. And they were, they were going to be uh initiated into this uh uh this um you know this group of witches a coven yes but it's basically it's or it's uh the force uh midichlorian
Starting point is 00:21:58 ivf yes without mentioning them like it's again called The Thread, which you don't want to get too on the nose with Lesbian Space Witches, Thread. I mean, do you ever see the poster for the Acolyte, the first poster? It was memed to hell. So it was a lightsaber hilt with blood coming out of it. And you can imagine what the hell they mean. They made it like racetracks. They had a squirrel scraping its ass. because it was a scrape of blood. So it looked like skin marks.
Starting point is 00:22:29 So it got memed to hell. So yeah, so they initiate these two girls and they do this fucking song. And I clipped it out and other people did too. If you clipped out anything from this show, it was getting millions of impressions on X. You were getting about a million to two million views per video yeah that that during that entire accolade series yeah that was a great that was good here wait does just hashtag renew the acolyte i don't want it more than anybody it was such a well the thing was it was such a memeable show because it was so fucking bad for
Starting point is 00:23:01 one you had a manless denberg um who by the way privileged child actress uh daughter of millionaires um who made a diss track against fans after like after that third episode fuck have you seen the diss track no i tried not to click on it the main laughably the main actress made it this thread because the series wasn't like people are like this fucking sucks also your acting is absolutely horrendous you have no emotional range she made a diss track to make fun of the fans of star wars and all of her co-workers were like yes queen like they were all about it was the were thread ever in any of like no no no they just made that shit up dozens of novels that star wars has had hundreds of novels nope no no there's been
Starting point is 00:23:55 there's been space witches but there hasn't been a thread now the space witches come from the uh like outside uh extended universe well from the extended universe but from outside the galaxy and there's some inside the galaxy right depending on book and I haven't read every book but there's people who know it far better than I do but they just don't let us know in the comments they will and I love you for it
Starting point is 00:24:18 but no they made up this coven of lesbian communist space witches and I say communist because that's what they were that it was the whole it was just a freaking communist theme they needed no men they just made some girls uh and played by a manless denberg as i said she she was so great in her role she played two different roles exactly the same way like brilliant acting um and yeah she got pissed. So she made a diss track against fans that got memed to hell. And like the backlash was dying down until she did that. And it just, it went to the stratosphere after that.
Starting point is 00:24:53 It was, it was crazy. Um, it's everyone else's fault though. Yes. Oh, it's the fans. It's always the fans fault when it comes to Disney. Uh, that's, and that kind of marketing comes straight from the top. Are you ready, babe? Let's bring from the top. Are you ready? Babe, let's bring out Big Daddy.
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Starting point is 00:26:36 And people who worked on the show, who currently worked on the show, and fed me all kinds of shit. Oh, like behind the scenes. They were like, dude, this is so bad. What were they saying? I made a video called The Rings of Power, The Making of a Disaster. It came out a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:26:56 But they... Can I guess real quick? Again, this is Eli separated from Holly for 10 years, better of 10 years I think 8 years Chase knows he just came from LA
Starting point is 00:27:11 the level of insanity just guessing on this you will see first off you cannot like it is so hit with the DEI and then they will rewrite shit to it doesn't matter what the mass audience wants it's like how do we cater to a specific audience i think the key word
Starting point is 00:27:32 is new audiences new the modern audience that doesn't exist and then it is catered around that it is how everyone's hired how everything has to be handled on set you it is a multi-layered problem and it doesn't get better any which way and then if you're outside of that you will get pushback instantly like if you voice a reason like henry cal for the witcher like hey hey this this is not what this isn't how this would go what the fuck's going on and then immediate pushback that's probably what happened the entire time or what you heard. What's better than a well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue? A well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue that was carefully selected by an Instacart shopper and delivered to your door. A well-marbled ribeye you ordered without even
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Starting point is 00:28:44 So what i was told by somebody at the time very very high up was the that the marketing that they started the rings of power with that that disney's perfected because it does relate to the acolyte came straight from the top which was go after the fans because when rings of power started casting black female dwarves after telling us they're going to honor the lore, people were just going, excuse me, there were no black dwarves. They dwell in mountains. Tolkien never explained what female dwarves look like, right? Other than beards.
Starting point is 00:29:19 That's it. Which they removed from the, once Amazon came out and DISA didn't have a beard, they actually removed it from the Tolkien Gateway, which is like their Wikipedia. What? They removed it. You think they would have won with them with beards on there? Well, they did it now. So there was a lot of fronting for it, but like the marketing came from the top, which means it came from Jennifer Salke, which means it comes from Kathleen Kennedy. And a lot of this is used through three party, third party companies.
Starting point is 00:29:47 It's not used all the time. There's plenty of people out there who who are who just truly support the acolyte, who can sound pretty loud on Twitter. Same with the rings of power. But there's also an argument to be made that wouldn't it be in the company's best interest to hire a third party company for plausible deniability to drum up what looks like interest it's toxic positivity is the term now but drop up drum up a false interest in something where it's easy like on on x twitter and it makes sense because that's the shit they accused us of back in the day when um it's just bots when you just troll bots russian bots back in those days like what the fuck are you talking about who's gonna i'm not gonna pay money for somebody to downvote captain marvel i'll just say it sucks i don't care if people like it
Starting point is 00:30:34 you're allowed to like shit that i don't like that's fine you should not have a different opinion not to get too conspiratorial but wouldn't it make sense for a giant corporation that pumped 200 million dollars into something that maybe drum up some interest where they're where they know there is none and they knew they knew at amazon they were already in trouble with the rings of power you know what it reminds me about of like genuinely like that marketing strategy it reminds me of a like the book trust me i'm lying by ryan holiday where they would purposely they put up a poster like i think it was like i hope they serve beer in hell. It's like objectively, I think, a trash movie if you look at IMDb.
Starting point is 00:31:08 But he was part of the marketing campaign. And what they do is they put up a billboard in LA and then deface their own billboard so it would show up in news articles and shit like that. So there's all of a sudden conversation started about it. So like you are putting out garbage so that they will throw shit at it and you can throw shit back. And all of a sudden there's discourse. there's actual discourse where there shouldn't be and and there's still i guess a thought amongst the corporations that any press is good press any discourse is because
Starting point is 00:31:34 good discord well with the rings of power in particular an acolyte with the rings of power first season was far more in the zeitgeist and because the tolkien fandom was like fuck no hell boy and that was like 1.8 million viewership first week yeah yeah and then it went down well they claimed like 25 million people watched it worldwide uh but by the end it lost 63 of its audience the fuck do you find these people yeah i don't know where they find them either but like the comment sections and that's where right around where youtube had it was because of the white house by the way but um and maybe disney but they got rid of their dislike button and then they started deleting comments were like this thing sucks so people got smart
Starting point is 00:32:17 and they just started saying oh my favorite part when is when galf said, it's Morbid time. You know, they just started trolling the fucking – and it's been great. And they did it with Acolyte too. Gandalf saying, it's Morbid time. If you want to have a good laugh, go to the Rings of Power season one or Acolyte comment sections on YouTube. It's fucking hilarious. Like people got so creative with that. It's so good. And it was amazing was amazing trolling and they can't stop it so you can't they were just
Starting point is 00:32:50 automatically deleting certain keywords so they're just all right well we'll just roll into it and we'll fucking clown you to your face we don't have to say it sucks uh and that's better you know and because mockery works and it led to the acolyte getting publicly canceled. Right? That should be your next t-shirt. Mockery works. It does. That's a really good one. Mockery works.
Starting point is 00:33:13 It does. Makes somebody feel foolish. That's the greatest. By putting a mirror up to their face. Like, I'm going to use your language against you. And I'm just going to, like, these are the things you're telling me. I'm not making anything up i am just reflecting back what you have told me that you have prioritized identity politics you uh use terms like white passing i was talking about it in a stream earlier today
Starting point is 00:33:36 pedro pascal gets gets cast in everything because he's white passing that is somebody i heard from marvel that's why he was cast as re Richards. His first name is fucking Pedro. Yeah. Wait, what's white passing? What's white passing? You're white passing, Eli. This is a term where we can put somebody in that's diverse, but they can still pass as a white guy by replacing a white character. This is how fucking insane they've gotten.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Right. And they're the ones that i mean they brought back and the media brought back person of color they're the ones who call people marginalized all the time these what we were talking about earlier marginalized people don't know how to use apps they don't know how to use the phone they don't know how to use computer they can listen to how that fucking sound is founding it like finding out about youtube we thankfully have very strong white leaders yeah exactly i was able to drive this yeah you're you're part of mexico you could do more than clean my pool you know i can't yeah
Starting point is 00:34:32 you know eli and brandon came along i was like guys there's this podcast thing i don't know you're not going to understand it at first i'll lead you through it there's this youtube thing you guys can get into and they're like see it's called an app which is short for application how much space is it 50 dollars I can't show I can't show my ID to vote because obviously I'm too marginalized to ever figure out how to get a driver's license. And there's a bunch of dumb, woke, mostly women, white women. And it's in Hollywood. I think this is woke, woke, because apparently it does set up.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Wait, does it set off the YouTubes? I don't think only in titles, right? I think in titles now, that's new. We actually got confirmation of that. If you ever want to know how much back end goes into YouTube videos, it is a lot more than your average person. Words,
Starting point is 00:35:35 searches, what even we say during the podcast, that's why we have Pepperbox. Can I actually say one of my favorites that I've ever figured out, had to figure out about the YouTube algorithm of things you can and cannot say in the inward definitely can't oh I mean good if you want well hard on it's okay buddy yeah I just can't figure out who's in Paris the creator who's in paris man who's in paris somebody somebody somebody's got to tell me no it was uh it was i was doing a video he's like uh i'll turn white for this
Starting point is 00:36:13 conversation it was a uh it was a video about a guy who had done a uh to troll the atf he had replaced uh his arm brace with a fleshlight and basically had written a written a an approval letter to the ATF basically asking for clarification on it. And he had an attorney actually draft up the letter. And I did a whole video basically on it. And the ATF had to reply. But what was the response? I can't remember. Basically, they were like, we were not going to comment on that, basically, because he was just like, I know you said you I can't shoulder it.
Starting point is 00:36:44 But what if it's attached to another appendage? And that was his whole premise behind it. And his picture was really high. Like a picatinny mouth. Oh, he had a picture. He had a picture of a flashlight shoved through a sig brace.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Respect. I mean, I respect the troll. He actually paid an attorney to do it. The attorney reached out later. He's like's like yeah that was the weirdest thing i ever had to write but uh the title for that i found out that you youtube will flag adult toy on titles but it will not flag fleshlight which for me is objectively worse that's way more descriptive but because it's a brand the ai there the algorithm doesn't catch it so i flat out ran with fleshlight and it stayed monetized for a few weeks that's crazy yeah it's hard to figure it out do we like cody has probably the heart well between i always think it's like yeah cody has the hardest version of the back end of
Starting point is 00:37:44 youtube a lot if we can go into it really quickly the amount of work and then understanding the Yeah, Cody has the hardest version of the back end of YouTube. If we can go into it really quickly, the amount of work and then understanding the algorithm, but also keywords and what fucks you. And when the word fucks you is said, it is your video just dies instantly. So Cody's working with like, hey, I have this. I have to put duck quacks in everything. The quacks of justice. Yeah, it's like, wah, wah, wah, I have to put duck quacks and everything. Quacks of justice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:06 It's like, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack. And it's just, please know.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And it still gets demonetized, right? I have a family. Yeah. It's demonetized. So Cody does a video and then it's, you made $0 for that. That is like us going to your workplace.
Starting point is 00:38:20 You work for a day. You say one word that somebody didn't like. And now your paycheck for that day is say one word that somebody didn't like and now your paycheck for that day is deleted permanently yeah like what's it's just really fucking aggravating especially with what they're doing with age restriction now yeah man it's it's fucking it's been weaponized yeah it really has man and it sucks like you said using one word and then suddenly you didn't make any money for a video that you worked an entire day on. Oh, and they have the capability. I know this for a fact to like pinpoint it and it'd be like a, you know, a copyright claim where they go cut out this little
Starting point is 00:38:53 five second bit. Yeah. They can do that. They purposefully don't do that though. So, so they'll, they'll like, they'll take a five second bit. Like if you use something that might've been popular, I don't know, 10 years ago, and then they'll take a five second bit. Like if you use something that might've been popular, I don't know, 10 years ago. And then they'll take your money for the entire video out of a 10 second clip. And they'll give it to that, like that corporate, they'll give it to MGM.
Starting point is 00:39:12 They'll get to Warner brothers. They'll give your entire videos revenue to them because you might've used like a five or 10 second clip. Even if you, if you spoof it, like use, use a ridiculous version of a song or a shitty flute version
Starting point is 00:39:27 or whatever. That's usually what I roll with. The shitty recorder version of it. They'll be like, no, that was our original song. And they'll take the entire revenue from your video from a five-second clip.
Starting point is 00:39:36 They've gotten me for covers. How dare you? Exactly. They've gotten me for covers, though, where they're just like, oh, you're using the melody of a song that we own. Well, you just got hit with going back.
Starting point is 00:39:45 And now with Gun Tubers, it's terrifying because you just got back. Your old videos just got demonetized. And you're not the only one. They're hitting everyone. Oh, not demonetized. Age-restricted. Age-restricted. Even worse.
Starting point is 00:39:56 They'll age-restrict full auto stuff now. And the thing that irritates me is that, look, if you guys want to be honest about this, I will play by your rules. It's your platform. If I want to not play by your rules,'ll create my own platform which i did pepper box so but if if youtube wants to play the the game a certain way to appeal to their advertisers i'm totally okay with that i will play by your rules what i cannot fucking do is create content for what your rules will be in five years yep so like if they if they roll out
Starting point is 00:40:26 new rules whatever as long as they grandfather the old shit fine because like you were the one who confirmed it monetized i had a manual review they said it was okay and then three years down the road you change your rules and fuck me over also being clear on everything they do like communication of how some of these rules change because they won't tell you. No. But you can lose your livelihood over it. Yeah, instantly. And there is times when, like, Brandon, you're at one strike because one video.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yeah. And then you're like, in hindsight, and you own that. You're like, you know what? That's on you. Yeah, like, for example, the Shinzo Abe video. I'm like, alright, as soon as my youtube rep explained to me why i got a strike for that i'm like all right that's fair which that video is now on pepperbox yeah the only place you can see it i think but you own that but that's what's scary
Starting point is 00:41:15 about it is imagine your job whatever you do it is something that gets instated afterwards and then immediately it's like oh your job's gone period and you cannot do it again what i hate though is like having conversations directly with okay so i love being able to have conversations directly with youtube i'm glad that they're open and they're willing to communicate with us like that's a net positive i'm not taking that away from them what i hate is how smug some of their people are when they say like oh no no no we're not taking away your job we're not taking away your job we're not taking away your ability to make money all we're saying is that if you and we're not saying you can't make
Starting point is 00:41:48 that kind of content we're just saying that we're just going to reserve that for an over 18 audience it's like no what you're telling me is that nobody's going to be able to fucking see it it's going to be tanked by the algorithm only people that are signed in and above 18 can see it and so you're taking away% of the fucking views on it, and I get no money. So yes, that is what you are doing, because you are telling me I will not be able to make a career off this. We fixed the glitch, Brandon.
Starting point is 00:42:11 In the same statement, they still say, this won't affect your viewership. That is bullshit. Don't they say it? Just even demonetizing. Oh no, you're 100% right. I'm just getting fucking aggravated. I was like, I'm right, right? Well, one of right right age restrictions you need to be right in your face look so no
Starting point is 00:42:29 the slow man on that no age restricted video shows up unless you're logged in and there's a surprisingly high amount of people who watch your stuff who aren't logged into youtube oh just go search it without logging into the app even if you're a 45 year old man you cannot watch age restricted content unless you are logged in, have a Google account that is verified over 18. Which is all of Cody's content. Being simply demonetized kills. Now, this is the one they claim, no, it doesn't affect it at all. That's total bullshit.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I have so many examples of things going up, and then they get demonetized. It just stops. I think Cody has like the, it's like, this doesn't affect you. And it's Cody's viewers. She's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:10 well, they always say monetization doesn't affect your viewership. Like you said, it's, it's videos climbing, climbing, climbing, demonetized,
Starting point is 00:43:17 no money, no viewership, no money, nothing. There must be crazy for you guys right now. It's getting worse. It's getting worse. That's why I'm glad to have alternatives yeah and it's building those it's not complaining we still love like we still are like yo youtube has provided this amazing experience and a network and everything
Starting point is 00:43:35 we get to do then it's that offset it's like hey do the extra work to build something which then everyone gets to have a good time have fun videos not worry about censorship you all get an amazing experience if you want to pay you still get everyone's content again that's the most important part it wasn't everything's behind a paywall everyone's still we care about you guys that's why it's like hey let's add additional things which is censorship free blah blah blah blah for me the frustration goes beyond that because I think firearm content is just important to have, period. And for me, I do firearm stuff. I do safety instructional shit.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I do a lot of firearm safety, how things work, things that I think are important, especially with culture war stuff. I feel like that's extremely important to have that out there and to reach new and bigger audiences you you do you uh basically disprove a lot of the disinformation about police shootings and different things like that and you give a refined perspective i think there's a huge place for that that's when youtube is important yeah my thing is like it's not just about the fucking money i've made a lot of money that's fine it's not about that for me anymore it's like i, I feel like, okay, could I off to another platform where I get like 5% of the viewership and still make as much money?
Starting point is 00:44:48 Sure. But like YouTube is where the, the popular conversation is. And if we're not reaching that next generation, we are fucked. Like we need to have our voice heard on a, on the open platform of discourse. That's why I love Cody's content.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Cody's content is doing a service to everyone because you still point out like even if it's a bad shooting we're like hey this dude's in the wrong the police officer's in the wrong you still cover that and then you're like hey i'm fucking tired of this this is what makes the good ones look bad it's not like you're picking and choosing you're like you cover both sides and i think that's where a lot of people don't understand is you're not choosing a side you're like you want both sides and i think that's where a lot of people don't understand is you're not choosing a site you're like you want to do the best and you want to present that information without all the hoopla and the the stories behind it's cody here's the stories that
Starting point is 00:45:36 again if you don't know this cody reaches out to the precincts you get all the information you get the footage and then you break it down from a police officer's perspective and somebody that just cares about like hey as a whole i care about everyone america first i want everyone to be like how do we move ahead and you do that and then people still get that gets restricted because violence i i cens my shit as much as the news does that you watch on public TV. Probably more so. Yeah, probably. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I just found out you did cop content. I thought it was just duck sounds. Yeah. Yeah. No, I censor it. I can't even play gunshots anymore on YouTube. That's where the duck comes from, the quack of justice. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I'm trying to... Like, I'm not saying like, hey, every police officer is a great person. No, I'm saying like, there should be more training. Maybe not defund them. Maybe give them a little bit more money so that they can train and not shoot people more. And it's like, no, you bootlicker piece of shit. You love every cop. You love when they shoot the black people, no, you bootlicker piece of shit. You love every cop. You love when they shoot the black people, don't you?
Starting point is 00:46:48 It's like, no, I've never fucking said that, man. No, and the perspective is Cody's just like racist ass. It's like his best friends and business partners are like Mexicans. Your partner as a cop was chocolate. Chocolate, yeah. He lived with, that was your roommate and like yeah that's one of your homies too and it's like oh did you have to use the h word on that really which one homos
Starting point is 00:47:12 there's so many to choose from yeah and that's why it's like cody as and it's it's crazy from the outside perspective watching this narrative that gets built for Cody. Even Brandon. Like, Brandon is an alt-right person. Extremist. I was like, he's a racist. I was like, I didn't know that, Brandon. You know, I made that joke from the very beginning of my campaign when I first kicked that off.
Starting point is 00:47:42 That was what I said before any of this fucking happened. I'm like, man, I just can't wait to find out all the things i didn't know about myself yeah and god damn did i find out some things it's wow i don't like the jews holy shit i either oh no that was the fun part like if you're on twitter it's like i either hate jews or i fucking love them like i'm either sold out to them or i hate them both are apparently it's like what is it not mutually exclusive man god what is the the the principle help me on this uh the cat no okay that was what it was that's what it was during mys it was like schrodinger how did you get that
Starting point is 00:48:25 how did you get that that's what it was during my campaign it was schrodinger's jew i either hate them or love them depending on who you fucking ask on the internet there's so many jokes there never mind no go for it. I already put myself out there. Hang on. I just like you.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Connor. Connor's like, Schrodinger. I'm like Pavlov's dog. Fucking the thing with the cat. Yeah. You're talking about anti-Semitism and then point it at me. No, I'm not, man. Sorry for the unintentional collateral but that's gonna be the new thing on the podcast yeah shrodinger's jew
Starting point is 00:49:13 yeah everyone's going through like all those things from and it's crazy to see i i'm still surprised the podcast gets a pretty weird like the only hiccup we get it's like they're political fuck we don't we've never like literally touched base on politics speaking of which what do you think about the israel situation right now son of a bitch i don't think we're not political to be like well that there's the joke i never talked about any of this shit during my campaign either we never talked issues on here because like it's not the time and place no and everyone's just bros hanging out we're having fun and i think that's that it's breaking that normalcy that everyone's like oh you turn on the internet and
Starting point is 00:50:00 you're like god damn it because everyone starts to go towards that and you're like, God damn it, because everyone starts to go towards that and you're like, I just wanted to hang out with the bros, watch them get drunk or talk about fucking Star Wars, anything, gun builds, whatever we're doing next for content. And that's what people are happy or just laughing at the word retard.
Starting point is 00:50:19 We love that one. Thank God that's come back. Yeah, retarded space lesbians. Can we get back to that real quick? Sure. We've completely... I feel like the internet has retaken retard. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:50:30 We love that word. It's a strong word. It's a strong word. Retard is the hill I'll die on. Yeah. I'm not letting go of that one. I've let go of too much. No, far too much.
Starting point is 00:50:40 And it's healing. And yeah, once we get some more gamer words back uh we'll know we're a proper society again chase is doing timestamps right now god damn it guys i was told you to stop doing this when chase is in the room when we're recording i always just see like the meme of like stress 99 chase is killing. By the way, bro. Just fantastic. Transcript. That's a great way to do that, by the way.
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Starting point is 00:52:23 Oh, Deadpool. Going on to deadpool you loved it but also the story i actually was very interested in your take on that because we all loved it as far it broke the mold for the it broke the the new mold because we got so used to something as you said though you're like the story's just good. It's nothing crazy. Yeah, Deadpool won. Wolverine. Wolverine, Deadpool? Yeah. Your take is it's different from the norm,
Starting point is 00:52:51 where it's like, because it's either hated or loved, but you were like, hey, the story, if it wasn't in this time period, it would have just been a mediocre or a, but it would have been good. Yeah, if it wasn't if we weren't like swimming through like a sea of sewage for entertainment um and it came out like a few
Starting point is 00:53:12 years ago i don't think it would have the impact that it did now it was a complete reversal so everything matters in context the first two deadpool movies i think are better they have more heart you'd say two is better yeah I think two is better than three yes I absolutely do I because because it's more of a Deadpool story Deadpool Wolverine is kind of a gimmick uh a gimmick that I'm used to from reading a lot of comic books it's just throwing in a bunch of cameos it does feel kind of hollow at times but Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds white boy summer by the way white boy summer that's what it was uh carried it with their charisma and it was just and we were waiting
Starting point is 00:53:51 for wolverine to finally team up with deadpool and it took pure desperation for this to happen you know ryan reynolds when he did the announcement trailer was half joking like i got nothing well you know disney had the rights to deadpool they could have made a sequel whenever the fuck they wanted and they didn't they waited five years five or six years five years to to have it done and they had to bring back hugh jackman which shows how fucked disney marvel is and that you know they're bringing back robert downey jr now and the russo brothers and it's because they fucked everything up They fucked up the easiest lay of all time. By wanting to pretty much change out all the heroes. We have like the B and Z team. We have Captain African American coming out in February.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Nobody's going to fucking watch that. Nobody cares. Oh, you don't understand. Indiana Jones is Red Hulk. 90-year-old fucking Indiana Jones is Red Hulk. Wait, what? Yeah, Harrison Ford. Straight up. Harrison Jones is Red Hulk. Wait, what? Yeah, Harrison Ford. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Harrison Ford is Red Hulk. Is Red Hulk. Me and Cody have the same face. We're just... I didn't know. I thought you guys were making a fucking joke. I know that. That's literally what is happening.
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Starting point is 00:55:42 But yeah, so Harrison Ford is playing General Ross now. Because William Hurt passed away, so they found an older dude who could die any minute. I hope Harrison Ford lives forever. So they found an older dude to play the Red Hulk.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Wait, is he playing Ross? He's playing General Ross. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, General Ross is the Red Hulk. It's stupid as fuck. He was dumb in the comics, and he's going to be dumber in the movies. How old is he now? 80? 100,000 years old.
Starting point is 00:56:14 I did want to go back to this, though. Did you just hear, eee? I did want to go back to this. I had a perfect comparison for when you're saying why we love Deadpool versus Wolverine so much. Have you ever been out in the woods for like a week? Yeah. And then like when you come back into civilization, you have a shitty like McDonald's cheeseburger. And it's the greatest thing
Starting point is 00:56:32 ever. Best thing ever. I got a great analogy. Have you ever been in prison for like three years? I can't say I have. So I had an omelet at Denny's. It was the best food I've ever had in my life. It was like manna from heaven. Sorry to interrupt. That's probably a much better analogy considering the timeframe we're talking about
Starting point is 00:56:47 since there's been a good Marvel movie. Yes. But that's what it is. So it's in context of like, there's been so much shit. We finally just got something that was fun that wasn't preaching to us or trying to subvert expectations
Starting point is 00:56:58 or replace a character with a chick. You know, we're talking about the Acolyte. That South Park episode that came out. Put a chick in it, we're talking about the Acolyte that South Park episode that came out put a chick in it make it back in the name and game put a chick in the linguine and make it gay and I want it made an instant meme but you know Acolyte being the embodiment of that South Park episode had a lot to do with its with what's going on and marvel recognized it so i talked to people doing this stupid show for my upstairs bedroom it's not a basement although because we can't have basements in texas texas but um it's weird that i've had so many people
Starting point is 00:57:38 reach out to me anonymously like i love what you do bro but we can't say anything or i'll get fired you know and it sucks it sucks that they feel that way because there's people who legit want to make good stuff in hollywood most of the people are just like working class men and women who just want to make good shit and they're who are passionate about good movies and they just want to get into hollywood yeah and unfortunately that's the place that good movies aren't made anymore and they're at the mercy of a bunch of idiots right now and it's corporatism and it's dei it's self-imposed dei um but like marvel recognized like they saw what was going on well i say across the hall at lucasfilm like we're not going to do that anymore well we were when we were just in la see remember
Starting point is 00:58:22 landing in lax oh you're talking about the the witch thing yeah the posters for it's agatha all the way agatha all along yeah all along wait whatever they fucking changed the name yeah we were in la what like three weeks ago something like that and we're like every corridor we went down every wall was painted with agatha agatha agatha agatha agatha like every fucking where we so every fentanyl zombie who walks around el los angeles is gonna watch agatha the the show made for wine moms yeah as soon as you download a disney plus then they can kill you at any of their theme parks legally legally yeah they probably own your soul i mean i'd i'd read all the fine print i didn't check
Starting point is 00:59:05 the pop of meat one of that no not oh pop of meat just did deep dive into all the lot dude that it is one of the best episodes he's done recently because wife died blah blah blah uh and they paid he was like i just want 50 grand they've like i didn't know it was so low yeah dude 50 grand is like that is a layup, legally speaking. Just wait till you see the stuff. Just imagine how pissed his wife would be. 50 grand, motherfucker, I died. They paid more than 50 grand on somebody that broke an arm or something.
Starting point is 00:59:37 The husband paid more than that for his car. So it's a restaurant on a Disney property, so it's not Disney proper. I think it was Reedy Creek is the controversial one that they were suing DeSantis for. Because I think it was the Irish pub. They lost their tax exemption. Yeah. Oh, yep. So it was in Disney Springs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:57 So it wasn't proper Disney, but it was still Disney property. But yeah, they used the fine print in signing up for a free disney plus account that is wild that's some fucking crazy by the way well no i would say that that attorney is probably thinking like this is this is a big brain play and then yeah and then the media got it the biggest media scourge onto disney and then the response was like tough shit that's in the fine print sorry about your wife dude dude. Who owns the media? Oh, that's right. Disney. Oh, thank God. That's where you were going with
Starting point is 01:00:29 ABC. Who owns the media, Connor? Connor, who runs Hollywood? I know his pattern. That's how I'm saying it. It's not racism, it's pattern recognition. It's getting a little hot in there. This is why APAC spent so much against me, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Money well spent. Dude, it caught you out of working in washington man i is one of my most hated cities in the in the country every time i have to go there i'm just most people who like don't get me wrong i've never been dc has this day amazing history like you're just going for the museums and the monuments fucking awesome anywhere else think Fucking awesome. Anywhere else, think about basically a metropolitan downtown area, but with more crime and also on top of the normal crime, there's white-collar crime everywhere. Yeah, it's like Gotham City.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Pretty close, yeah. That's where Batman would be. Yeah. Remember Dave Chappelle's bit about going to D.C. the first time? No. He's riding through there. He says his driver's taking him theory he's like gun store gun store liquor stores liquor store were you taking me there's this like whole all
Starting point is 01:01:50 of dc it's just like back in the day when you could have a gun in dc yeah yeah those are good old days man it's like there's a baby on the street store back when the uh the mayor did crack openly and got re-elected re-elected yeah that is a real thing I am not kidding and he actually ran the city better than it's run now guaranteed yep I'm trying I would trust a mayor that does it openly I know he's not lying he's telling us that he's doing crack Mary and Barry right that was yeah yeah bleep the name actually was a bouncer in DC uh for a few years and was there he told a story of when like Mary and Barry and his boys were there in like a corner booth openly doing drugs. And like his guards had like pistols on the table.
Starting point is 01:02:32 And they were just like, fuck it. I don't get paid enough for this as the mayor. And still, I respect that more than the way it's being run now. San Francisco or whatever that retard is in charge of LA right now, the mayor of LA. Oh, God. I fucking love it. Like Willie Brown, when he was
Starting point is 01:02:54 our mayor in San Francisco, the guy was a gangster. I didn't care. He got shit done. He got some of the power lines buried under the streets. He got us new streetlights. It's like, all right, he's f***ing everything, including Kamala Harris. But he gets shit done. He likes money.
Starting point is 01:03:09 I respect that. As long as you're getting shit done. They had that whole... I forgot about the Willie Brown Kamala thing. Oh, yeah. I've tried to remove myself from politics a little bit these days. It's kind of recharge. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:03:19 She blew him. I don't want to spread misinformation. Apparently, you have no First Amendment right to misinformation according to tim walls and you can't or do that gavin newsome or uh anybody else yeah we can't make memes anymore in california no oh yeah this is the new thing we did not i found out today so it is uh making memes when did this try to get rolled out making memes was a big no-no. That was like three weeks ago. Two or three weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Brandon, did you know about this? It was something about altered images, like AI or things like that. What they were really going up against, and I think they were really pissed about, is that Elon Musk put out an altered Kamala Harris ad. Yeah, Mr. Reagan was the account who put it out, and it was a great ad, by the way. Shout out to Mr. Reagan. But it was AI altered of Kamala's voice basically saying, we're so glad that we've raised the price of groceries
Starting point is 01:04:16 and this, this, this. But it plays out. It's very obviously satirical. Yes. But it plays out like a real campaign ad, and they freak the fuck out, because apparently this is the best political advertising they've ever seen because the political the political
Starting point is 01:04:29 establishment is behind the political advertising establishment is like fucking two decades behind i saw i've seen that from the inside yeah we gotta watch it it was insanity watching and people at ground level or ever like even the viewer you do not understand how shady it is until watching what they were trying to do against you. But even then, I still. I was just like. I'm a single guy. Just one lone dude. And I was winning.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Yes. That's crazy. Because I was like, they spent $12 million to my one, one and a half. And so incumbents have a 97 percent re-election rate i think in this country uh i took mine to a runoff my and and he he won by 407 votes after being outspent over 10 to 1 and that's fucking crazy like that is out of touch from 4chan to make memes for you give them some like gamer subs and whatever speed drinks or maybe some adderall on the side that wouldn't be legal um and you you could win you could absolutely win
Starting point is 01:05:30 the meme election started in 2016 and they're still going now like paid i saw ads again i'm at my freaking gym and i'm like brandon herrera doesn't like the jews no they didn't say that for real but like it was like a dude hates Hates veterans. All day. With veteran guns. Hates fucking veterans. Despite being on a podcast full of veterans. Do military stories. Like, literally the main driving force
Starting point is 01:05:56 of the podcast. And they're like, he hates veterans. Why? Because this two second quote, which a veteran made him talk about. Ripped out of of context so you wouldn't know he was talking about a veteran prevention panel he was speaking at hours earlier but it's such a boomer thing to do i hate to use that term but um like it's it's on heavy rotation on all the local san antonio stations playing in my gym nobody's paying attention to that shit he pops
Starting point is 01:06:22 out a meme for free on X Twitter, and it's going to get a thousand times more engagement and probably influence. If you make somebody laugh, people go, he made me laugh. The crazy part is, too, the amount of older people that, especially I think this is partially attributed to Tucker Carlson moving over to Twitter or X,
Starting point is 01:06:43 the amount of older people I would see at campaign events that i'm talking or whatever and then after we're doing q a i'm just shaking hands whatever people that are in their like 50s and 60s that are like you would never imagine like people that are not in our sphere that don't do social media for a living you're like these people would never be engaging on on twitter and they're like oh i just i love you memeing on x it's like fuck me all right i never would have called that. But that's, it's super cool to see that aging up. It was weird watching Brandon break that cycle of, hey, our demographic is a younger audience.
Starting point is 01:07:13 And then going into restaurants and going out, like whatever we're doing. And then you have like older individuals, like 50 plus. But Brandon, I'm a huge fan. I'm like, yo, okay, this is new new i am not used to seeing this i'm used to seeing cody probably saying it's like that younger audience seeing you pivot into that audience was fucking wild to me which is also like it kind of hurts me a little bit because like i can usually predict if somebody's over 50 and they're coming up to shake my hand in public it's because of politics.
Starting point is 01:07:45 And I get that. That's super cool. And I appreciate them, you know, being on my side and being supportive. That's awesome. But I had a guy the other day that came up to shake my hand that was probably like, I don't know, 25. Came up to shake my hand and goes, hey, man, what are you doing in San Antonio? Like, I'll take it. You didn't vote.
Starting point is 01:08:11 It's your boy, Brandon. Yeah. Been living here for quite a while. A little bit. What, so what, what next,
Starting point is 01:08:18 what's your next thing after like rings of power? Cause we have how many episodes left of that. And then what's your next? One. Thank God. Dude, you hate it so much. My favorite part is, as you were saying, orcs parlayed and then orcs
Starting point is 01:08:32 have families. It is such a shit run. Sensitive orcs that don't want to go to war, that they're worried about their kids at home, little orc suburbs. They're taking little... The orcs are really just victims of israel yeah they're going to they we i got in trouble i think jace put up that episode some of our thumbnails
Starting point is 01:09:00 he's just goose stepping out walking with his hand up at a 45 degree angle yeah like little gore bag wants to play uh you know you know softball with like uh you know human heads but yeah we were playing with our thumbnails for that one and and i went i went light but we had like free more uh free mordor and from the Anduin to the Sea. Oh, no. Okay, so I'm glad we went the same direction. Yeah, yeah. I went with Live, Laugh, Lacerate.
Starting point is 01:09:33 That was the safe one. But yeah, like Suburban Orcs. It's so fucking stupid. Everything about it is stupid. So thank God it's over. It's over after one more episode. Are you telling me they're just like us? They're just like us. Dude, this is what encoded.
Starting point is 01:09:45 This is like no exaggeration. These are they have conversations about worrying about their family. Like orcs are talking. Okay. What was the last one that just happened? You pointed out. Yeah. The last one.
Starting point is 01:09:57 He's like, hey, we can't win this battle. We need to go home. We need to retreat. You know, this is an orc. Are you sure you want to keep fighting? It's like, it's stupid. So orcs,
Starting point is 01:10:08 uh, they aren't clearly defined in Tolkien's legendarium, but it's believed they're a corrupt form of life. That was basically more goth wanting to mock hero, Luvitar. So creating his own life. Cause he was jealous. And yeah, he just tortured elves and men, probably.
Starting point is 01:10:33 And it's a tortured form of life. You know, there's people who say they were grown. No, they're actually, they were created by Morgoth, but then they, well, it's called multiply in the lore. They multiply. And I've always thought it was like little, you know, a brood of fucking orcs and the runts die off. And, you know, whoever, you know, maybe out of a litter, three survive or something like that. And that's pretty much what it is. Because I'm like, I'm not a Lord of the Rings, you know, fanatic or,
Starting point is 01:11:00 you know, I don't have any greater understanding of it or anything. But I always thought they were like. You love it, but you're not watching. They were like the feral pigs of that universe yes yeah i mean yes they come out like they even have that sword for the yurikai or that scene it's like pulling them out it's the fundamental problem with with hollywood right now is they cannot tell a heroic story because they cannot tell and this is legit this goes back to our earlier conversation they don't know their morals are so fucking upside down they don't know good for bad anymore
Starting point is 01:11:29 so they can write uh a movie and release it with wonder woman being a dude and not realize it like what's the problem what that was have you ever seen that no so me okay what is a real thing that happened i thought about that in the theater i was like wait what the fuck yeah okay wonder woman 84 what is a real thing that happened i thought about that in the theater i was like wait what the fuck yeah so wonder woman 84 steve trevor returns the guy from the first movie yep but he's dead kind of and he and he takes a living human being's place he takes his body takes over the guy's body so like we're seeing steve trevor but it's really that dude's body yeah that dude could be gay for all we know. Kind of look gay.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Hollywood. High chance that he was gay. Well, then it was their excuse to bring back Chris Pine is because it's a normal dude possessed by Chris or in her mind or whatever. And she has sex with that dude without his consent. So I'm just using your language against you. Okay. And that's, that's fucking.
Starting point is 01:12:24 So he took control of somebody else it's like ghost where it's taking yeah yeah i don't remember it was actually him or it was just like a perception of him but they brought back chris she sees him as occupying another dude's body she she doesn't see chris pine she sees that dude we see chris pine we see chris pine and she that's worse that is objectively worse yep this is like date on a whole nother level yep so yeah that gets past them so you know they're trying to adapt tolkien which is you know there's shades of gray in it for sure but it's it's evil is clearly defined oh yeah there's good and there's evil and just like star wars evil and good are clearly defined, but now those lines are blurred because there can't be evil.
Starting point is 01:13:05 There's only oppression, you know, and it's just this belief system and it doesn't work. It literally doesn't work for storytelling. You can't tell the hero's journey anymore. And that's, you know, kind of a tried and true thing that has worked for thousands of years, you know, the hero's journey. Like, what is it, a St. George story or, like, basic storytelling elements like that just don't work anymore. Yeah, you have three arcs. You have, like, there's a formula, two stories. And you can change the formulas around, but you need, you can't have, like, that weird gray area unless you're doing, like, a series. Like, Berserk does a good gray area.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Yeah, yeah. But it's also fucking 20 years in the 30 or 30 years in the making but there's still a through line yeah of like hero like griffith griffith is the perfect example of fucking pure evil and how they manipulate that and then yeah a song of ice and fire is shades of gray all day long and it's got feminist themes in it but there's still classic fantasy in it and a through line it'll never finish so i can't call it a through line but whatever um and and they know they can't do that anymore because a lot of people in the past the mask came off in 2016 so a lot of people in
Starting point is 01:14:17 the past who wrote batman actually thought batman was a fascist so there's a lot of people who wrote superman who thinks superman is a fascist they like to use that term a lot because they learned it in university not realizing that they work for giant corporations who are in league with the government which is actually fascism so that's my favorite part of that yeah where they're just like we're fighting the system it's like the the system you mean the giant mega corporations that all agree on the same fucking thing like you're you're not fighting the norm if all of the corporations that you claim to hate agree with you uh yeah dude if you want to read really good stuff right now because how big japanese anime has
Starting point is 01:14:57 got right and then you have that pushback from our side we're like they're sexist look at these big titty bitches and the japanese are like we do not care the bigger titties are said we make titties bigger next time god bless the Japanese I don't think the other sides phrasing it quite that way they're like look at these sexist with their big titty bitches. I'm sure that's what they're saying. Not like you are. Haven't you seen underwear in the store? You can buy underwear from a vending machine.
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Starting point is 01:17:14 What's the movie with, new movie that just came out. You just reviewed it. More. Not Joker 2. What is it about? Am I racist? That one. Am I racist? Oh, the Matt Walsh movie.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Dude, apparently, you're like it's hilarious dude everyone is fucking loving this it's one i want to watch i think we should go as a i think you should i think my favorite is uh when uh matt walsh goes on uh instagram and twitter and screenshots and posts the uh the reddit threads of movie theater employees that are trying to sabotage people from watching it they're like we purposely like we make sure there's a glitch in the machine so people can't buy tickets or like shit like that movie theater employees are genuinely trying to sabotage them yep i'm not surprised that's a badge of honor in my opinion yeah and i think he's he's played it really smart i mean like uh i've i've disagreed with him in the past about gaming and
Starting point is 01:18:03 other things and even anime. He's got some pretty horrible takes when it comes to that. I'm curious. I don't know if it's the troll or not, but gaming and anime, what was the take? Oh, he is,
Starting point is 01:18:14 basically it's all demonic and satanic. And it could be a troll. Daily Wire. I don't know. Daily Wire. Yeah. It's those hard ones where, and this is my favorite part is, I think that's a retarded take if it's not a
Starting point is 01:18:27 troll, but you don't, you're not like everyone at this table. Here's the craziest. I think it is. Hey, have your own beliefs. We don't care.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Sure. Like, just don't force it on everyone else. And we're, it's when you're a political part of the point of it was like, he just basically said they were satanic. And, and what we talk about in our sphere a lot is you don't understand the,
Starting point is 01:18:50 the power of the gamer. They get a lot of shit. They're called incels or call of the scrap. That's a lot of people who consider themselves gamers and fans and nerds. And yeah, it's 55 year old adults sitting in a room surrounded by fucking action figures with no shame to my game whatsoever and you need to understand that that is a huge part of american society uh is pop culture and to just go it's just a bunch of fucking incel it's like that one
Starting point is 01:19:17 who came out on twitter and said gamers are the most unattractive person it's like well for one check your mole and uh number two uh you don't know what you're talking about you don't know how what what is a gamer you know they have this stereotypical thing and that's the nerds have had and gamers have had to deal with forever but they have massive power the lions do not concern themselves with the opinions of the fours exactly so you don't have to like it you're four with with my glasses on with 2020 vision okay um so they have lots of power but also it's just regular people there is no specific gamer or nerd that's that's the whole point of it and you don't have to like the shit you can think it's satanic i don't give a but respect that people like it yeah don't put that
Starting point is 01:20:08 don't put out mass things like alienating something because you don't like it and you just put out a mass to hundreds of thousands of people where you're like gaming satanic or it's evil or this is how you corrupt children because i can tell you look at the difference between each one of us and then all of us are fucking nerds at the end of the day we might play different games but everyone still is hardcore gaming nerd anime manga comics like it doesn't matter i mean eli will have a a detailed business conversation and then immediately after he'll ask me so how far are you in red dead 2 i was just about to say that probably a chapter five chapter five i i i am in saint denis right now so we're chugging along that's a game i actually know
Starting point is 01:20:51 massive gamer me for sure no i play like five games in my life but um am i racist red dead's the first red dead i played a lot like that red dead two i hated it in the beginning i it took i took a five-year break off Red Dead 2. I turned on my PS5 for the first time. I haven't played a game on it, but I hooked it up and turned it on in my home theater. Wow, can't wait to watch Joker 2. Maybe in a year I'll play a game. What I call it is my Crunchyroll machine.
Starting point is 01:21:19 There you go. Because my TV can't have Crunchyroll. So I plugged it in downstairs really this is now crunchy roll there you go that just sounds awful am i racist um is legit funny and like and needed you know just like uh what is a woman uh this one has far more impact at least on my sphere because it really does peel back because it's you would think it goes one way it's mostly white women mostly white women and some greedy black women um who he pays and he shows you how much he pays for these interviews some from like fifty thousand dollars and they don't say shit they don't know they do they know because he is showing yes his perspective he's pretty he's
Starting point is 01:22:01 pretty transparent with like well they don't know he's Matt Walsh. One group figures it out, and this is where he comes up with his disguise. And I don't want to ruin it for you, but what he exposes is the DEI race grift industry, the race extortion industry that's prevalent through our school systems, our government, fucking sports, corporate Americaica it's poisoned all of it down and it's not about race as much as anti-white it is anti-white so that um there's a celebration of diversity i'm going to paraphrase the quote at the beginning from the book oh what's his name i forgot what his name was the guy who wrote the book uh how to be an anti-racist a quote from the book is what opens the film which is the best way to fight past um uh oh shit what's the term he used the best way to basically the best way to fight i'm he used a different word but i can't remember because i'm old uh the best way to fight oh the best way to fight past
Starting point is 01:23:05 discrimination is present discrimination is it i'm thinking michael moore off the top of my head no it's a black dude because i remember like i remember in a foreclosure in fayetteville back when i was doing like work that kind of work i just found a michael moore book and i can't remember something about like just basically hating white people just funny he's a fat white guy if i looked like him i'd hate white people. Just funny. He's a fat white guy. If I looked like him, I'd hate white people too. Fair enough. I remember reading through it and like reading his book.
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Starting point is 01:23:50 He's a retard. Objectively. He is. I'm shocked he's still alive, to be frank. Yeah, with that help. He was famous from Roger Mee back in the 80s, won awards and stuff. And yeah, he got this far being a complete retard. But they like,
Starting point is 01:24:08 that's one of the statements you said. It's like the film opens with that and you have a person's like, Hey, how do you get rid of racism? You've more racism apparently. Yes. But then he breaks down all the behind the scenes of everything where it's like,
Starting point is 01:24:23 Oh, Hey, look, look, look how crazy these people are. We'll go with a dinner with him. We'll talk about him at, um, I mean,
Starting point is 01:24:31 multiple occasions. I didn't know he, I wasn't sure how he paid them. I, I know he was like behind the scenes. He just pretended he was his character, but then they opened up because of that. Right.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Yeah. And it, it was really good at what he does it's deadpan humor but it's not really combative it is he will just ask a simple like he'll draw him in a little bit um my favorite part is um the woman who wrote uh uh white fragility i'm blanking on her name now too because i'm getting old. The main girl. Yeah, the one at the end. He paid her like $15,000.
Starting point is 01:25:10 The one he got to pay reparations to his producer. He fucking... Did you not know that? She literally whips out her wallet and fucking pays him money. Like cash? Yes. Like cash to pay reparations. insanity d'angelo i can't remember name right now it sucks getting old but um the important part is that's right i couldn't remember schrodinger's jew uh yeah thankfully trout did yeah he's got it all um he he asked her about like well you know what do i do about mansplaining
Starting point is 01:25:49 and she starts explaining it and he interrupts her and mansplains her about mansplaining and it was fucking hilarious uh that that's like and it's filled with that and then he also goes to like a southern town and he goes into a bar with a bunch of fucking bikers and stars and bars and he talks to a guy who's like yeah my dad was a my dad and my grandpa were in the clan he's all but i'm not racist no he's all none of that fell down he's all no i judge a person based off their based on their individuality after their character martin luther king said this guy who's a who's a son and a grandson of clan members so it's and then he goes to other parts you know he talks to an immigrant he's got like 57 grandkids um and
Starting point is 01:26:32 he's like no i love this country this country is awesome and mlk would be a radical radical right winger today if you just look at the the idea just on his views back then like based off of like the idea of like be considered. Yeah. Yeah. Like just be. Yeah, exactly. He would be considered by the left wing.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Like, excuse me, you think we shouldn't judge people at all by the color of their skin? Just the content of the character? What the hell are you talking about? That's racist now. What are you thinking about the institutionalized racism, though? Yeah. And that's what's crazy. Like he deep dives into that.
Starting point is 01:27:02 As you say, he goes into the deep south and where you would think you would see racism like i don't give it's i don't give a fuck about that it is the context of your character it's like hey let me see okay i don't there's way more everyday racism in our big cities than there is in any part of america yeah uh you go to middle america like well people don't travel anymore. They just don't. They don't leave the cities. I saw more racism in San Francisco than I ever saw anywhere. What's that quote by our boy
Starting point is 01:27:33 God dang it, Huckleberry Finn. Sound of a bitch. You could just call him Jim. Mark Twain? Mark Twain, holy shit. But that is like, if you want to defeat racism, it's essentially travel. Like go out, explore, meet others. That is how you defeat that.
Starting point is 01:27:53 And that's what you see is like, oh, when you explore a lot of different areas, urban areas, suburbs, or rural, if you get away from the ideology that's mainstream and you're like oh these people actually have content character like that's why the group of friends i have i'm fucking not white i have the best group of friends and no one we don't bring up race other than jokes just because it's funny oh we bring up race a lot but it's all only in the context of jokes yeah like nobody actually thinks less of anybody nobody actually like nobody has those deep-seated resentments anywhere that like would make you not talk to someone like that's fucking crazy to me you want to like if like our biggest thing is like work hard be successful figure out a way to overcome obstacles you do that i will praise you till the end of time. If you're a piece of shit, it doesn't matter what color your skin is.
Starting point is 01:28:47 I don't give a fuck. Except Cody. He wants to fund the police. Don't get me started on them policemen. Punch him, Brandon. He's been resisting for far too long now. Come on. Go for it. It's right there. You know you want to.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Watching this shit, my my friends get online is absolutely ridiculous on twitter or hearing that back and it's like racist piece of shit i'm like who the guys that are highly successful because they just work and they do whatever like that's they they might bully on twitter i laugh at it that's great content to me i'm like hit hit hit pass that you guys are working so fucking hard that's what i appreciate from my friend good morning dude they're killing life they're employing people it doesn't matter they're not racist pieces of shit they just work hard they might joke or they're uh they offer a different perspective on certain stuff but it's not based off of fucking race it's just based off now how you feel i think we're just in the death throes of that industry it's like that one company that is basically the
Starting point is 01:29:55 um the dei you know barometer for video game companies that like they come in and they'll help rewrite oh sweet baby inc yeah thank you i think we talked about this last time you were on i don't know i can't remember i think we did but like yeah that was that was exactly it but like those those people that just know that this is an industry that enough people care but we need to make sure that we're not you know x y and z and like it's just it's it's fading out of vogue and i don't think anybody actually genuinely gives a shit. So one of our friends, he didn't realize DEI actually, he just thought it was for race specifically. And then when I told him it was for sex too, he was like, wait, get the fuck out. That sex representation too.
Starting point is 01:30:36 It's like, yes, females to males and all that. And he was like, I did not know that. What the fuck? It goes way beyond race. Yeah, he did not know that what the it goes way beyond race yeah he did not know that anti-traditional what would be deemed as traditional and we could do air quotes on that but um yeah chase blake out this name was the one he didn't know it was race-based he or a theme like sex-based he was like no uh because he works in la he's done the hollywood thing like he's still there actively he did not know that part and once he was filled in on that,
Starting point is 01:31:06 he was like, get the fuck out. These dumb white bitches need stuff. Is that why they're making all the video game characters like Frumpy and Fat Town and shit like that? And they're all flopping. Star Wars Outlaws, which has a frumpy ma'am solo
Starting point is 01:31:22 that we call it. Ma'am solo? It's underperforming so much Ubisoft had to go back. They had board meetings about this. Then there's Concord. I don't play any of this. There was Dustborn. Concord time? Bro, $600 million.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Sony, $600 or $700? I don't know. Concord, this is over $200 million. We'll just say that. Half a billion dollars. Half a billion dollars half a billion dollars eight years in the process sony releases this and they they fucking pull it off the shelves in two weeks two weeks i've never heard of it what the fuck yeah 600 million dollars to be a star wars franchise for them oh because they put like some rappers and shit into it too they did
Starting point is 01:32:01 so much 600 million dollars is supposed to 400 million dollars dude and pulled it off the shelves in two weeks this was supposed to be an ongoing series this is like mario or sonic the hedgehog like because well i think well i think that the ultimate irony is that all the the dei industry that it has become is making like racism sexism whatever the fuck it's making it worse because like for me like if you put a gay dude in a movie i don't care that's not my first thought right but it's the radical over representation where it's like all right it's this percent of the population let's say two percent versus it's ten percent of tv shows or movies or whatever it's like the only
Starting point is 01:32:41 thing i'm thinking about is how it is an industry in hollywood and that drives me fucking crazy because i just want to i'm not a hater enjoy i want to enjoy i want to enjoy games i want to enjoy movies i want to enjoy tv shows if there's no nothing to hate on i'm not upset we talked about connor last night i said it's like you want to ruin terminator 2 you want to ruin alien aliens it is sarah connor or fucking um ripley going girl power during the movie they got perfect female power strong female character and you're like that is a bad thing without literally did that in dark fate they brought sarah connor back to become anti-natalists they killed john connor in the first five minutes a young version to go back in time and kill him and then they make sarah connor this bitter bitch who thinks that the only reason we
Starting point is 01:33:30 carry babies is just for them it's like what the f**k you were like the baddest ass mother on the planet which is so good yeah we never thought about sarah connor anything it's like that's a strong female like that's a badass character they earned it like fucking ripley had alien sarah connor had terminator they had one movie to we we saw them adapt go through trauma grow become a badass and everybody's like cool dope ass character that's awesome no one argues if you did a female punisher do that if you just put like a female punisher but made it like ripley or sarah connor and never talked about the female part of it you're just like this character went through this and you're like dude female punisher you'd be like okay it's a side branch but they don't talk about that you could live
Starting point is 01:34:14 with that and you'd be like you know what that was a dope role they fucking crushed it but now uh because it's some becomes such a trope to just gender swap male characters and then make the women just act like dudes. It's actually affecting things that might not be that like Furiosa. I still think it should have had Mad Max in it. I think a Mad Max movie should have Mad Max, specifically when it's called a Mad Max saga or whatever. But that being said, the movie was good. It was a good movie, but you've got to see on the flip side what happened because everyone's so did you watch for heroes yeah yeah yeah dude it was good
Starting point is 01:34:51 ass fucking good it was the prequel to the new tom hardy mad max yeah but nobody watched it because nobody wanted to see it and they were just thought it was going to be more girl boss shit although it wasn't and everyone's like and it was a good movie and that's what flopped hard right now yeah and that sucks because that was a good like everyone was like that was a actually good it was actually good i tried to save my review it's still flopped though it's still a big flop and then uh you know they're they're doing a lord of the rings war of the war here i'm i'm the only one who's gonna care about this is the movie so it's it's from warner brothers so let me give you a little lore on this rings of power got got their rights from the tolkien estate outside of warner brothers who still have the rights to distribute
Starting point is 01:35:35 lord of the rings and part of the hobbit right so they can only tell a little bit of the story warner brothers recognizing that amazon was fucking, decided to whip their dick out and go, well, we'll pull from the appendices, too, because we can. And we're going to do War of the Rohirrim. So when I heard it and we're going to do it anime, I'm like, fuck, yeah, let's go. Then they're like, yeah, we're going to take an unnamed woman from the story and make her the main character. We're like, like fuck not again which they're doing so if you see the trailer and you see a girl named harrah she doesn't have a name harrah uh she's mentioned in one sentence and it's supposed to be the battle of what names helms deep
Starting point is 01:36:17 helms deep that's what it's supposed to be about like a battle that gives helms deep its name it's about helm hammerhand but now it's about his daughter and not him. So I actually, I saw that trailer when I went to go see a movie a couple of days ago. And I'm, I was going to ask you about it. Cause I was wondering like, what the fuck is this?
Starting point is 01:36:34 Is this actual like Lord of the Rings lore? Cause I wouldn't know. Nope. They had their chance, but it's more like current day. We've talked about this before. It is all anime shows books they hand you what to do to be successful if you just copied that yes we've talked about multiple times we're
Starting point is 01:36:55 like if you just went like cowboy bebop if they would have just been like oh this is an anime that they've got 24 episodes on if they would have just taken the fucking anime One for one. Exactly. One for one. Episode by episode and just did that beautiful formula that they had going for fucking the past 30 years
Starting point is 01:37:17 it would have been cool. Before it came out the actress told the fans to fuck off. That never works. That works really good. What's a good movie that's done that? What's a good example of a movie or a TV show that has followed through? Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Peter Jackson trilogy takes liberties, but it captures the spirit of the books. It's the greatest trilogy ever made. He does his little swaps where it's like you have from... They skip stuff um what's uh they're like all-powerful guy what's his name god damn it why can i not remember tom bombadil they were like okay this doesn't add a lot of stuff but they're like this doesn't add
Starting point is 01:37:56 to the story and then there's book fans out there like put in tom bombadil i'm with you but like books are better the books are better but p But Peter Jackson's trilogy is perfect because it captures the spirit. Like, there's closer adaptation. If you want to do comic book adaptation, not fantasy. Sin City is the greatest adaptation I've ever seen of anything. It's page for page, panel for panel, the comic book. And it did very good. And it did so, so good.
Starting point is 01:38:20 I haven't watched that in forever. You remember Sin City? I saw it years ago yeah frank miller it's freaking brilliant really good you know dune did all right i was gonna say dune what do we think about dune dune is the hardest thing because you have directors that's why it took so long to come to fruition is because a lot of people are like, yo, this is fucking hard to turn into a movie script and be where you can digest it. It is a undertaking to do that.
Starting point is 01:38:51 And now they have these, how they're doing it's great. They're like, hey, let's build these magnificent sets. Let's have the actors, let's see how we can fucking make this happen on the big screen. And they killed it in my opinion. Yeah, I like
Starting point is 01:39:08 both movies. Cody hates them. No. Okay, they fucked up Shawnee. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, she's... Zendaya is the worst thing in it for sure. Without a doubt. They almost had the chick fucking Wednesday. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:24 I just saw. I sent that to you the other day uh jennifer ortega yeah yeah jenna ortega they were about to make her chani in that for even though they wrote no it would have made it better because they wrote chani in there as like a vindictive bitch where she's like no you're taking another bride but in the movie in the book sorry in the books uh sorry, in the books, uh, like Chani stays by his side the entire time. She's like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:39:48 I understand. You have to take the emperor's, the emperor's daughter on as a wife, because that's going to make you rule the universe, but I'm still your lover. And they stay together. And he pushes, he pushes,
Starting point is 01:39:59 pushes the emperor's daughter to the side. He's like, go over there and do your fucking thing. I'm hanging out with my Chani, but in, you know, in the movie, she's like, I'm there and do your fucking thing i'm hanging out with my chani but in you know in the movie she's like i'm so angry i'm gonna write a worm i'm gonna go do this worm thing now me dude i love dude cody's one thing he will die on fucking dune he oh boy you get so fired up about dune you're like reads all the books like knows the lore to a t i don't even know the like the next movie is
Starting point is 01:40:27 basically the last good one before like it goes off the fucking rails yeah yeah it goes off the rails here soon 10 000 year time jumps and shit like that yeah there's there's so the next movie that's going to come out it's going to be like probably like a 30 year time jump oh really yeah yeah i hope they bring back uh oscar isaac yeah he just plays this the same guy they're bringing back somebody spoilers they bring back a character who's dead oh yeah there's a reason for that though okay i can't explain that no i know how i know how is it or is it yeah okay yeah i can name the race who does it but i'm not gonna spoil anything chase you might have to that part or you can just read the book that's 50 years old yeah i'll spoil the shit out of a book you know
Starting point is 01:41:18 it's so old you're like but people don't read books. Which, by the way, I don't know if you guys know Dune-inspired Star Wars. I'm just throwing that out there. Yeah, it did. A lot. Dune and then Gates. Dune, Saturday Morning Serials, Lord of the Rings, Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon. Before, before, before. What's the first one?
Starting point is 01:41:41 Dune. Akira Kosoa, Toshiro Mokume. Oh, Hidden Fortress. Hidden Fortress. There we go. Yeah. That's like the old. the first one um dude akira uh kira kosawa uh to share oh hidden fortress hidden fortress there we go yeah that's like the old it was a hodgepodge old dude i know i'm like what is the oldest representation it's like dude if you want to share uh kira kosawa if you want to see craziness watch that dude do movies in the 1930s i think to the 60s if i remember right and he was the first one to do moving camera sweeps all that stuff but these are like 8 000 pound rigs on tracks this is when it's like and they're moving everything having everything move at the same time and action, you have all like hundreds of people moving or running up and doing the
Starting point is 01:42:27 actions. It is fucking crazy. And especially in black and white, it's kind of like those old, like the, the 10 commandments and shit where like they have a wide shot of people in the market. There's a thousand people in the market.
Starting point is 01:42:39 Dude, Lawrence Arabia is fucking great. It's cinematic master. Yes. It is 10 out of 10 film. Bro, guys, you could pull that up in 4K right now because how it's filmed. There's a whole video on it on YouTube because how it's filmed. It looks better than any movie made today.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Really? And this is like fucking – when was that filmed? 60s. 50s, early 60s. Yeah, like 58 or 62 something like it was a stock of film they used and uh even like the transfer doesn't do it justice like it still looks better in film but it's one of the best it might be the best shot movie of all time dude it is like i don't know for sure when you see the stills from it, you think it is shot today for how high quality. The 4K is pretty good.
Starting point is 01:43:26 It is insanity. And then what's the one movie where, like the drowning scene, people are actually dying? It's one of those old films where it was. When they ride the horses off. Ten Commandments. That's when they died, right? Yes. Ten Commandments.
Starting point is 01:43:42 People died in that fucking shit. I didn't know that. I was like, that's a long way from just using real human skeletons in Poltergeist. Ten Commandments, people were dying on that during the flooding scene. Yeah, Noah's Ark.
Starting point is 01:43:56 People are dying. That's fighting for their lives. Like trying to swim up. Three people drowned. One had to have a leg amputated and almost a dozen suffered broken limbs and other serious injuries shit that's authentic seriously dude what if you watch one of the extras who survived the flood scene was allegedly john wayne no shit no shit dude the flood scene is amazing and now because they're like action, you see people like, whoo, whoo, whoo.
Starting point is 01:44:27 They're like pushing people down. And you see like a scramble to survive. And there's people like drowning each other to make it out of that scene. John Wayne killed three of them. What's funny is that this is like an era in policing and detective work where they're like, damn, I wonder how we put this together. they're like we have it on film all right enough with that high tech nonsense yeah the idea of having a video of it is like yeah i love og filming but fucking like you have the 70s version or 80s version of dune and then the proper version yeah well they had
Starting point is 01:45:01 the 80s version then they had the um early early 2000 2000 yeah the early 2000 series on sci-fi network which followed the book more uh i liked it it was fine it was cheap but it was fine i didn't know it was like a sci-fi series that they had sci-fi originals kind of sci-fi original something they had out there for a while never heard of this i remember watching sci-fi originals when i was a kid like like Minotaur the movie and shit like that, where it's like B-movies, but it was so violent and gory. I was like, oh, fuck. This is awesome. They almost showed a titty in them.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Yeah, the chicks were hot, too. That helped. TV-14 titty. When those came out, I was like a full-grown adult. We were teenagers. Brandon wasn't born yet. Them titties on CBS or whatever channel it is, TNT at that time. You're like, yeah, fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Dude, I love that Princess Cyril on side boob, dude. It was so good when I was in high school. So highly specific. When DVR came out, that got paused a lot. Yep. That TiVo, dude. Yeah, TiVo dude. TiVo.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Holy shit. So Cody's is, what is your favorite book series? Do you read, actually, we have Dune. You, I know, like Star Wars more than Lord of the Rings, correct? No, I like Lord of the Rings a lot more than Star Wars. My bad. I couldn't remember. So that's your peak.
Starting point is 01:46:25 And then have you read Name of the Wind or any of that no yeah i i conan would be second robert e howard's conan if you want to do yourself a favor name of the wind okay i'll check it out i promise you or read that and be like eli thank you this is why isn't released book three yet it's been 12 years well i i like i like a song of ice and fire yeah yeah i i like that book series a lot too all right that right now is that is that book ever coming out no yeah i'm saying george just put up a blog post that sounds grim is he dying uh it sounds like he's kind of giving up it It's like he's... Something happened with HBO with this series behind the scenes that he's pissed at him now.
Starting point is 01:47:09 There's still more shows coming out, but it seems like it kind of like all the gas is out of his tank right now. Listen, he was alone in a cabin at COVID and couldn't finish. And he's been writing the book for 13 years. So no, it's not going to finish. And there's also a bunch of side projects and shit. Yeah, he's been writing the book for 13 years. So no, it's not going to finish. And there's also a bunch of like side projects and shit.
Starting point is 01:47:26 Yeah. He's just distracted. He just needs to be honest with people and say, I can't finish it. And then fucking hire a ghostwriter. Nobody will care. I won't care. I'd rather have it finished than not finished at all. As a Patrick Roth is for a name of the wind.
Starting point is 01:47:40 It sucks. Cause those he's only done two books and then a side story, but those two books his first book he released in 2008 and then it took 2012 or 13 for the second book and we're waiting for the third book at this point the first book he was a national bestseller george r martin was like hey this is the best author i have ever read in my life period so he was like acolyte just shot through the roof second book everyone praised even higher than the first book and he was like cool and he just is like i was almost done and then i hated it so i deleted it and i restarted from the beginning wow we're 12 years into book three and it's the final and everyone's like bro just finish the fucking
Starting point is 01:48:26 series how old is he he's not in his 70s is he okay he's good read the book series though like everyone will swear by that series as some of the greatest writing you'll ever see and you read it and you're like holy fuck
Starting point is 01:48:42 here's 900 pages here's 1400 pages and they are. If we can go back to Game of Thrones for a second, the thing that pisses me off about that book specifically is that he had the best case study you could ever have for an ending, period. Mm-hmm. Where the fan base reacted to a massively popular TV show. And he goes, all right right don't do that you could literally just take your fucking pick of any of the reddit fan fiction on the internet yeah and just build your book around that around some of the more popular theories of what they wanted to happen and you can't go wrong
Starting point is 01:49:17 i love that idea where you're like delete delete okay we're changing everything that we just seen didn't work for game of thrones who knows he might be like a stephen king kind of guy where he can't end a fun uh he can't end a fucking book yep where he can come up with intriguing settings and you read his other work he's not a child uh happy endings or good endings or he's like he's a tv writer uh and i would say like a lot of his stories are very twilight zone-ish they have a a morality tale they end pretty dark somebody usually dies and like that's the ending we saw in game of thrones season eight that's the ending like bran will be king uh denarius will be dead and john will be beyond the wall i think those three things are absolutely going to happen now how they got there completely different because half some of the
Starting point is 01:50:10 people they showed are dead in the book some of the people are still alive they completely there's other giant storylines they just like the fucking zombie mom and things like that lady stoneheart is a huge i think think, personally, my theory is Lady Stoneheart has something to do with the resurrection of Jon. So why people are really frustrated is... He's a good arc, actually. A Dance with Dragons ends with Jon bleeding out at Castle Black. So it's when he gets the assassination attempt,
Starting point is 01:50:42 and he's just dying. That's where the book ended. We know where the show went, but with the attempt and he's just dying that's where the book ended we like we know where the show went but with the book he's still bleeding uh denarius uh flew out a marine and she is like half naked with drogon surrounded by dothraki and like that's where we've been sitting for 13 years waiting for something to happen uh in the meantime he's written a couple of other books started a bunch of shows written a bunch of blog posts including the giants it's like finish the fucking book dude like or at least tell your fans who deserve this kind of an answer like yeah i'm not gonna finish because uh yeah a lot of people got invested in it so when you start a fantasy
Starting point is 01:51:22 series and you go this is going to be one of seven books, that's your promise to the fans. Then you do owe them something because they made you really fucking rich. So you at least owe them honesty. I'm not saying. You don't know. You don't even know them a time frame. No.
Starting point is 01:51:36 But if you say you're going to do something and then you don't do it, that's pretty aggravating. Yeah. Follow through. That's why I like you. The biggest thing you never make a promise you can't fulfill yep oh what god imagine if he's got a fucking uh not a he's got a gag order with hbo where he can't go against their ending that would be crazy not i hope he didn't sign that either i hope maybe he changed his ending completely maybe he took notes and just scrapped the book i don't i don't know know that's just a random conspiracy theory i came up with now but fuck that dude anime writers so um god dang it hunter
Starting point is 01:52:10 x hunter author i forget his name so what he did he was like hey just in case i die here's the three endings or four endings that i came up with he just so if he died because anime artists die manga artists die well yeah because they work themselves to death so and the ending so he released four and he's like hey this is one of the four endings just in case i die but it's like i will fulfill that storyline to get there just not telling you how we get there so just in case i die but there's your ending good to go and everyone's like okay cool and then it takes a truck month is on at chevrolet get zero percent financing for up to 72 months on a 2025 silverado 1500 custom blackout or custom trail boss with custom trail bosses available class exclusive duramax three
Starting point is 01:52:57 liter diesel engine and z71 off-road package with a two-inch factory suspension lift you get both on-road confidence and off-road capability dirt a two-inch factory suspension lift, you get both on-road confidence and off-road capability. Dirt road ahead? Let's go! Truck month is awesome! Ask your Chevrolet dealer for details. You're referring to release like a few chapters. Everyone's like, god damn it, dude. Release more chapters. George R. R. Martin, perfect example of taking goddamn forever to release anything, and you know it's going to be better than what is shoveled out for HBO. Much better. It'll be much better. Because, I mean, just everything just fell apart so fast. You have the, what are the brothers that wrote?
Starting point is 01:53:41 D&D. D&D, yeah. Dan and... Dan and dave dan and dave are they brothers no not brothers they're sorry that's my bad dnd that when they've they've said oh well we want to cater towards uh nfl crowd and moms that's how we're writing the last few seasons and that's what they did spectacle they went in the spectacle and they got away from you asked you asked about their that's how we're writing the last few seasons. And that's what they did. Spectacle. They went into spectacle and they got away from, you asked,
Starting point is 01:54:08 you asked about their faces right now. This is on camera. Them saying, yeah, they also said themes are for eighth grade book reports. And there also didn't want to do the magic. They also chose not to use lady Stoneheart, but the reason,
Starting point is 01:54:22 you know, you asked for a good adaptation. The first four seasons of game of Thrones are are great adaptation of the books you know what that reminds me of that reminds me of like the conspiracy theory that i'll be damned if i don't you know somewhat believe that next year the chiefs are going to win the super bowl with uh travis kelsey still dating taylor swift they're going to propose on the field and then nine months later announce a baby which is going to cause birth rates to increase within the United States and prepare the next generation for World War III. I hope this happens because then we can document Unsub as predicting future like The Simpsons.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Unsub goes into history. Brandon Herrera is. Not my theory. I just read it and I was like, fuck. It's believable at this point. It was that idea, so I see where you're coming from. It is the idea of how Jon Snow got positioned at the wall. So you had, right before that scene, the Dothraki and the, what are the other, the hard fighters?
Starting point is 01:55:24 The something-less. The dickless guys. Oh, the Unsullied. The Unsullied, there you go. Dickless. Unsullied. So when they, Jon Snow walks up, they're just murdering people that
Starting point is 01:55:38 went against the Queen. At the very last episode? Yeah, and Jon's like, hey, what are you doing he's like they went against the queen and he's just fucking murdering him he kills the queen and they're like let's bring him to let's bring him to trial let's bring him to justice yeah let's bring him to justice and then the people that never came from westeros are like we send him to the wall they don't know what the fucking they don't know what a wall is. They have no idea what that punishment is. And they're like.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Well, Tyrion basically picking the king was. I mean, he was a prisoner at that time. It was so stupid. Everything about it was stupid. Anyways. Stephen King is a. Stephen King. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Cody hates. Like, you ratio Stephen King so many times times i saw that i saw you i saw you do that i like such a fucking he said something or something you said you wrote an orgy scene with 13 year olds you fucking freak or something like that i say that well because it's the whole thing he does it all the fucking time and like back in the 80s and 90s it wasn't as much of an eyebrow raise as it is now, I guess. But it's like,
Starting point is 01:56:47 Steven, why do we really need this underage sex scene? This is a fucking, this is a nonfiction book about something where that didn't happen. No, I'm Stephen King. Listen, I can do anything.
Starting point is 01:56:59 I won't. He was better when he was coked up. Did you write the mist? I did. I'm not hating on his other work, man man i love a lot of his horror stuff but damn did he have to write that scene in there that means a fiction writer sitting in his room late at night coked up and he thought man what if these kids each other it's a great idea all of these underage boys this underage girl ran a freight train right through her
Starting point is 01:57:28 let's go I we talked about this yesterday not that let's rewind what are we talking about anti-semitism everybody wants to be
Starting point is 01:57:44 terrifying we're stressed right now what are we talking about We all have our areas of expertise. Drown went on a date at Stalker. And I sent a photo apparently like a week or two ago. Didn't remember that. But then I photoshopped your date and you looking at the screen going like this. The screen's here. So I was like, oh. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:58:10 And I just put fucking. I hate when you type in gay on Google. No girls come up. It's just dudes. I was like, well, yeah. Well, it's based on your previous searches. It's Taylor. No, I showed you Google search.
Starting point is 01:58:27 Google's not. So I'm like, gay. First image popped up. I'm like, okay, well, we're saving that. I was like, please, Savannah, do not walk up on this. I'm going to Photoshop this real fast. Send it to Trout. Nobody ever looked through Stephen King's or Eli's browser history.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Ever. Trout and his date took four hours to realize what was on the screen. Because I always feel if you do proper Photoshop, they don't know what is Photoshopped. Wait, he's pulling it up right now. I got to see this now. Yeah. It was blended that well that you had no what did you say what was your response to it you were like that's weird eli sent that i i texted
Starting point is 01:59:14 well i texted her and i was like hey it's kind of weird that eli sent that picture he just sent us the other week again and then like we're we just moved on with the conversation then like yeah like three four hours later she's like my god, did you see the fucking screen? Oh god. I thought it was... Again, four hours to get to that point. I was proud of that one. I thought you were just being weird.
Starting point is 01:59:45 You said four hours? They didn't respond for four hours. Oh, I thought you said you spent four hours working on it. I'm like, Eli, Jesus, I always struggle. If that's four hours, I was like... It's going up in the meme loop, I guess. I was just hoping. I was like, Sav's going to walk in on me being like...
Starting point is 02:00:00 She's on the gay part. She's like, babe. Not again. I'm like, I promise next time I'll stop. So I was like, cut, cut. This is the last time I'm working on something. Why do they look like Brandon and Cody? Well, the first response is, is that you and Cody on the screen?
Starting point is 02:00:24 My goals are beyond your understanding. I was like, hey, hey. Really good Photoshop, though. Yeah, really good Photoshop. That's not a real picture at all. Grab my hand.
Starting point is 02:00:40 All right, one more time. Last time, that's what it looked like. I don't know what's gayer, the white claw or looked like I don't know what's gay or the white claw or that I don't know dear god I was like this is great we're gonna do this from now on okay so what next projects
Starting point is 02:00:56 are you working on oh actually you're gonna be on you might be coming to pepper box yeah oh that's a huge thing yeah yeah you don't have to this is congratulations no it's not no like i dragged my feet on stuff you actually told me about it before but uh hell yeah i'm gonna be coming on pepper box uh in a month or two hopefully and uh yeah the the next project is getting through the rings of power and then it's kind of quiet uh for the rest of the
Starting point is 02:01:26 year as far as uh you know like gladiator 2 but shitty tv is kind of done i forgot they're making a second one i could imagine gladiator job having to get through the rings of power because you watch them from fucking start to finish yep twice cw shit out something before the end of the year there'll be there'll be some there's a venom movie there's like a couple superhero movies coming out yeah uh and then captain african-american in february but um yeah the rest of this year is uh kind of chilling uh going on vacation are you also upset that bucky didn't get the shield yeah because they absolutely that's what it was supposed narratively that's what was supposed to happen. That's what happens in the comic books.
Starting point is 02:02:06 Me and my girl actually recently just went through the entire MCU again, like just rewatching the movies in the timeline order. There's like a movie I skip here or there because I just don't fucking care to watch it again. But watching all the little subtle hints that they make that Bucky is going to get the fucking shield. Bucky is the linchpin for everything that happens up to infinity war not like all the civil war stuff it's all over bucky not that i don't like uh sam
Starting point is 02:02:32 like he's a great character as falcon yeah but like it was just it was such a fucking rug pull because like bucky's like canonically supposed to get the shield they make like they make nods to it all throughout the entire mcu and then it goes to falcon i'm like so here's the underlying bigotry of i don't i don't know if low expectations is kind of the right term but i'm going to use it anyway um you have sam wilson who is a black superhero who is marvel's second black superhero after black panther a uh a seminal character second i thought he's first second he's the second black panther was first oh you mean in the comics in the comics yeah you got it got it so he is the second black superhero that marvel had that people had to follow they made amigo of
Starting point is 02:03:16 him when i was a kid i remember having my my falcon so pretty seminal character and i like him in the movie yeah he's great he's fun if he was leading the avengers as falcon nobody have a problem but you have to make him for one it's such a cheap way to do it but you're giving basically the black person the white person's hand-me-downs and this i'm taking this from eric july uh my friend eric july so you're giving the black person the white person's hand-me-downs because the white person's more legitimate. Because that costume's more legitimate. When Falcon is a legitimate character on his own, if you want to make him better, do what they did with Iron Man.
Starting point is 02:03:54 Iron Man was never an A-list character in the Marvel comics. No, he was fucking secondary for a long time. But he's A-list now because they made him into an A-list character. You can do the same thing with Falcon. But if they made Falcon lead the Avengers right now as Falcon, I don't think anybody would have a fucking problem because he's been there since what? Winter Soldier? It would be better.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Putting him in this hybrid Falcon he looks like a fucking downhill skier. He looks like Frozone from The Incredibles. He does. And then if you want to think about it if I was drawing the comic, I'd go, well, how does this work that a guy with
Starting point is 02:04:27 no powers is wielding a shield with wings? What if he fucking throws the shield and it clips one of his wings and he's got no power? He dies in a plane crash. He dies. Like, and he's not a super soldier, so he doesn't, he shouldn't He's a human. That's the crazy part. He's a regular human.
Starting point is 02:04:43 He can get broken pretty easily. You know, Bucky superpowers. He's got crazy part. He's a regular human. He can get broken pretty easily. You know, Bucky, superpowers. He's got superpowers. And the arm, you know. This dude's fucking normal, though. As you're saying, it is that. Hey, we have to make him Captain America for whatever reason instead of, hey, we can just make this dude as bad as... We need a black man as Captain America. Let's pick that Falcon.
Starting point is 02:05:04 What's the black one that's not called black something? Falcon. We'll do that. And they built it up. Bucky is literally the equivalent of Captain America. They're both the same fucking age. They grew up together. They both have super human serum, like all that shit.
Starting point is 02:05:17 It's the same picture. And they built it up. They nodded to it. And then they fucking had some. It's his story of redemption because he was used as a sleeper soldier assassinating americans and all this and for him to take the mantle like it meant something yeah sam just like hey you know he was hanging around as like their little buddy and then he just gets promoted why not because he's powerful he's not like particularly smart strategy he might be a good leader if you show that later. But he doesn't have any money.
Starting point is 02:05:46 And Falcon and Winter Soldier, he gets denied a fucking bank loan. And he gets... He does. There's a scene where, because he's black, he gets denied a bank loan to buy a boat. Oh, yeah, for a secondary business for his sister. Pepper Potts. He doesn't know. He didn't know Tony Stark was dead at the time.
Starting point is 02:06:04 He doesn't know a few people that are probably really fucking rich. Despite being an Avenger. Despite being an Avenger. Holy shit, I forgot about that. David Hall can get into fucking Harvard. Yeah. Falcon can get a fucking loan for a boat. I forgot about that entire sequence where it's like
Starting point is 02:06:20 he was an Avenger. He fought along all these people and then he can't afford a boat because they... He's black. He can't get a bank loan. That's the equivalent to being a pop star in that universe, right? You're one of the most famous people on Earth.
Starting point is 02:06:36 Do a YouTube video that will pay for every bill you... Dude, GoFundMe. Everybody pay for every bill. I saved your ass in the battle world and it's not just like having a medal of honor or something like that like in the fucking like spider-man movies as soon as tony stark dies like there's murals everywhere of iron man like it's a very public zeitgeist like these are the heroes yeah dude i forgot about that and then yes he just
Starting point is 02:07:00 handed the shield and you're like yep brother So what you're saying is the Marvel Universe is pushing Black Man down. Yes, they are. I mean, they wouldn't let him get a fucking boat. They wouldn't let him get a boat. And they had to hand him a costume of a character he doesn't even fit the power sec for just because they wanted to have a black Captain America.
Starting point is 02:07:19 And if that's your only reason of doing it, then that's kind of fucking racist, if you think about it. For just a half a second. You could have had a very powerful movie. only reason of doing it then that's kind of fucking racist if you think about it for just a half a second you could have had a very powerful movie and that's the best side it's it's not the approach of like oh that's racist today that it's like no it's more racist to feel that is how you make that movie happen versus hey look watch we can do a movie separate build this guy's lore falcon movie make they did a falcon series do a
Starting point is 02:07:45 yeah make a falcon movie that's all you need to do i while i didn't really like the writing for that show i do like the banter between bucky and falcon yeah i think they are very funny so like together so here's the racism why not just make a solo falcon movie with a black start well the reason is they know it wouldn't sell and they don't want to put the investment in it to make it sell, which would be good writing. It's much easier. Hey, let's put Captain America's clothes on him, on the black person, and that'll sell the movie. I mean, think about that a little bit. If they were really about this shit, they would take Falcon.
Starting point is 02:08:23 They would put the top notch writer, a top notch top-notch director, and make a Falcon movie. And it would sell. What is the dumbest part is- Marvel fans would have no problem with this. No, everyone would fucking love that approach. We've talked about it multiple times. It's like, hey, why cater or force this audience? How can you tell me a Falcon show or movie wouldn't sell, but you're making Agatha all along?
Starting point is 02:08:44 Are you fucking kidding me? You're spending the same amount of money on a Falcon show or movie wouldn't sell, but you're making Agatha all along? Like, are you fucking kidding me? You're spending the same amount of money on a TV show for something nobody wanted. Panther was a great example of like, look how good that did. And it wasn't creating a new thing. It was like, hey, like Black Panther. Of course not. They took the plot for Lion King. Established character.
Starting point is 02:09:00 Took the plot for Lion King. No, established character. It is 100%. As soon as you realize that black panther is the fucking lion king with michael b jordan it's kind of great it's a it's a super mid movie but like at least it was like it was a character that i read when i was a kid and i liked a lot i i uh actually i liked it a lot more the second time i watched it uh i thought i think the cg is dog shit it is um but it's at
Starting point is 02:09:26 least it has a good villain and chadwick boseman was a really good black panther yes is the best version of it since civil war but he was a really fun and they should have recast him instead they exploited his death and uh didn't put black panther in the black pan well the black panther wasn't in the black panther sequel but they made him a skinny little girl at the end of the fucking movie it was such it was such a bait and switch and terrible and and it pissed off all the black panther fans they're like we should they did one chadwick bozeman wanted them to i never saw the second yeah don't don't yeah wakanda forever it's yeah they destroy it well not only black panther they destroy namor namor is so fucking dumb in that movie they got rid of he's no more who is it he's no more he's uh they make uh prince
Starting point is 02:10:13 namor who like if you look at him in the comics like if you're gonna say if he's another race probably asian that'd be probably my guess is asian uh they make him into like a mayan god but he's a mutant and they can't say submariner so they call him namor and uh it's it's i can't really express how not the character it is it's so fucking bad and it was done for identity politics that was his new name it's not his dead name don't say his dead name i can't it's your god that's true i shouldn't be dead naming you fucking name more i'm a bigot so because uh he went through that's the one he died before that one was released or like halfway through filming or like at the beginning no he died he died before he died before before it was like he was he was dying when he filmed um endgame his scenes for endgame yeah which also shout out to
Starting point is 02:11:07 that dude because that is holy shit yeah he did never said a goddamn thing like i didn't even know he was sick yeah literally it was it was that and then passed and everyone's like holy shit he went through all this without saying a thing and then that got him more respect for all the roles he did leading up to that. And then you have that turd that fell right after. And you're like, my God, this is an easy layup at this point. Well, dude, it's like filming our little things that we do. You know, we'll do like two, three-day film days. And we're like, fuck, we're wrecked.
Starting point is 02:11:40 That dude went through that whole movie like dying of cancer and just held up as a champ which explains why like his his bit was short like outside of the cg suit and everything but still like colon cancer is very aggressive from my understanding like that's one of those like you find out you have it and you die yeah that's what killed my dad so it's brutal it's brutal to watch so like he had major balls for like the way he went about it and stuff never announced it to like nope and that's what's crazy you have different and if you announce you have cancer you'll never get like push back on like from anyone unless you're a boogie that is a very good example that is how you don't announce
Starting point is 02:12:28 but if you're like filming stolen cancer yeah literally stolen cancer and then get a fake tattoo get a fake, uh, my mom used to twist my tipples. That's a great clip. No, uh, my, my good friend Mahler,
Starting point is 02:12:52 uh, from EFAP has a, uh, nice long video about the lore of boogie that you need to, they did a great episode on it.
Starting point is 02:13:01 Cause I have never watched a second of boogie content outside of the locale podcast same yeah i did want to ask though like uh what your opinion was because like i have mixed feelings about it i had a i had a i had an opinion when it was first announced and now i'm like kind of second guessing it your thoughts on rdj being the new doctor. Because that is... It probably was shocking to me. I was told this three or four months
Starting point is 02:13:30 before it came. You knew before? I knew. You didn't tell us the whole time. You whore. This guy keeps secrets like a mother... Big studios. If you still talk to him... Prison Tommy a couple things you can
Starting point is 02:13:46 trust him don't bend over for the soap he ain't no snitch yeah um so uh i yeah i found out about it there's some other things i found out that that i can't say but um yeah so i knew can you tell us after uh yeah i can tell you when we're off there yeah absolutely absolutely so um like details about like what's behind this and all this uh like the whole i think some of the details got out like they they bought a house to have the meeting with robert downey jr in so they can have it just completely outside of any other so they can try to keep it as secret as possible. I thought they weren't going to say anything. It was supposed to be a surprise in the stinger after the fantastic four.
Starting point is 02:14:32 That's what it was supposed to be a surprise. I don't even know if I should be saying that, but whatever. So yes, he's going to show up at the end of fantastic four is showing up. Yes. Or excuse me, that's coming out next year.
Starting point is 02:14:40 He's not in the fantastic four, right? There's, there's pieces of him. There's pieces of it. So it's at the fantastic four right there's there's pieces of him there's pieces of it so it's at the stinger it's at the end end credit scene that's where he he's gonna show up so um yeah i found this out months ago and i'm like and uh i was asked like what are people gonna think i'm like they're gonna go fucking nuts but i think ultimately it's a ballsy decision because you don't bring
Starting point is 02:15:05 him back as Iron Man, which would be dumb at this point. Although they should have never killed. Killing Iron Man was fucking dumb. Was just dumb. Really? Yeah. I think it's a terrible idea.
Starting point is 02:15:13 I think it's a kid. If they closed it off as a whole and there's somebody right off into the sunset, you don't have like, well, for one heroes don't die. They always get brought back to life. But like,
Starting point is 02:15:24 I am of the belief that you need to continue making iron man movies it's not robert downey jr owns the role sean connery owned the role of james bond but guess what you needed to have roger moore afterwards you need to recast it that's what i say and it's not going to be as good that's fine well i feel i feel like they softly did that through spider-man yes through like the the whole like oh we need to like the next iron man like because that becomes like a thread through the spider-man movies because he feels like he has to be the next iron man i think the future of cinematic universes will be one-off things where you recast the main character and like it won't
Starting point is 02:15:59 be like james bond it won't be clearly defined canon but it's all the same story that are just individual movies that's how it works it's worked for james bond because i can see both sides like where as like brandon is you're saying i feel like if you have rdj die you're like okay hey like conclude that story rdj didn't but iron man did rdj came back because the way they're going to present it is he is Victor Von Doom and he is going to be a variant and they're going to use the guy who saved the universe
Starting point is 02:16:33 and Victor Von Doom is going to be the one who destroys it because Fantastic Four is in a different universe. Which also if you like Doctor Doom is the one dude that has the he's the only one that can actually pull together in his vision how to not have the end of mankind happen. And one of the, I forget which one it is.
Starting point is 02:16:55 He is the only one that knows and predicts the future. It's like, hey, this is how mankind has to be done. Dr. Doom is the perfect, for those of you normies, he's basically melded science and magic. He melds the two together. Gangster. He's the best Marvel villain, period. End of story. Better than Thanos, better than fucking Galactus,
Starting point is 02:17:16 better than everything is Dr. Doom. So that's... When that was announced, it did what it needed to do, though, because it stopped. It got people interested in Marvel. Like, whatever side you were on, you weren't going, man, it's another stupid, woke, intersectional Marvel movie. It's, holy shit, Robert Downey Jr. is coming back, and they're bringing back the Russo brothers to direct. So it was a clear, like, we fucked up.
Starting point is 02:17:41 We're going to try to fix it the best way we can. It's probably, it doesn't do for legacy like this doesn't fix problems down the road because robert downey jr is fucking old um and it is a risk because you like he's not gonna play dr doom forever and you're gonna have to actually recast dr doom at some point to get us a proper dr doom but um for the time being i don't feel like rdj is too old to be a proper Dr. Doom, though. I mean, he's... He's supposed to be a contemporary of Reed Richards.
Starting point is 02:18:09 Reed Richards is old, too, though. Like, Pedro's not as old as Robert Downey Jr., but he ain't young. How old is Robert Downey Jr.? He's in his 60s. Is he really? Yeah. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:18:19 60s, 61. And then how many years it takes to make... I think Pedro's like 45. I saw the pictures of him where it was like lack of Iron Man. Like, he he's that's good pedro's like 45 but they're supposed to be contemporary i i do like oh god i will i will 59 yeah that's insane i'll die four years older than me i the i i don't think there would have had nearly the the emotional impact there that was expected out of end game.
Starting point is 02:18:46 If he didn't die. I loved that. So as somebody who like Iron Man was like my first entry to the MCU, like that was, I remember watching it in theaters and like, that was my first superhero that I was like, Oh, this is cool as shit.
Starting point is 02:19:01 When he died during end game, like that was actually fucking emotional for me like it's kind of gay like to get attached to like a fucking you know comic book character i mean you're looking at what almost 15 years at that point yeah it was over 10 years of my life that like looking up to this guy is like okay he was a a weapons dealer you know super smart fucking engineering guy like solved all his problems through this like we're talking about brandon or rdj or uh we're talking about iron man are we super successful handsome guy almost won an election pretty big youtube channel you can see why i'm like i identify with this quite a lot but i was like yeah but the problem is like then you're you're stuck with if you're going to bring
Starting point is 02:19:44 iron man back you have to do some finagling and some stupid shit which they do in the comics is terrible listen they've killed iron man in the comics before and they've gone back in time and brought a younger version back i'm just glad they didn't they're they've decided it was a bad idea to go through the uh the higher iron heart direction because dear god i was not looking forward to that iron heart comes out next year fuck well they've delayed it so many times they have so it's actually been completed for two years me and cody are looking at each other like what's iron what's iron heart it is uh a black female iron man to the point where they relaunched it in the comics and they called
Starting point is 02:20:20 it iron man they called the comic iron man after they killed uh tony stark was god 2016 17 tony stark died or he died in captain marvel's fault it was 2020 i think right it was 2020 it was it 29 it was 2019 because it was right before 2019 okay yeah in the movies in the comic oh i'm sorry sorry in the comic books it was i think 2016 maybe sooner doesn't matter so they bring in ironheart who's a 15 year old re re williams is a black girl who's smarter smarter than reed richards smarter than sherry uh smarter than uh tony stark who's dead fucking course and they still called it iron man so they can sell it as iron man but he was just an ai in her head while re re williams uh steals his uh his glory and that didn't last long so they created iron heart and that lousy that horrible fucking costume you
Starting point is 02:21:15 saw in wakanda forever which you didn't see uh that's what it is it's like i saw it's like it's a it's fucking terrible. It is terrible. It looks like fanfic. That's what a lot of this stuff has turned into is fanfic. So, yeah. Ironheart being kicked out. They're kicking that can down the road. Like they delayed Agatha as long as they could.
Starting point is 02:21:36 They're delaying this one. And they're trying to like spread out the shit so they can put in some more good stuff in between the shit. Problem is it's still shit. God bless it. I love Disney. I do too. They're fucking retarded. And they're going to guarantee that I have a job for at least a couple
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