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One of our missiles is called going pitbull.
So it attacks a toddler.
You just see explosions in the thermal and you're like, hehehehe.
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Thank you for tuning in. Welcome, everyone everyone and here's another episode for veterans month or whatever we're calling this brandon what
are we calling this veterans month sounds nice okay we're calling it brandon's month
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i'm still stuck on your smartwatch get a smartwatch get up you're just like
a smartwatch just tells me that
I'm hyper tense all the time
it does it's like you need to calm down
I'm like you need to shut the fuck up
it was supposed to make my life easier
hey you know what
you know what helps somebody who's having a panic attack
being told digitally
you should calm down
I cannot count the number of meetings I've been in just sitting there listening to someone say something stupid being told digitally. You should calm down.
I cannot count the number of meetings I've been in
just sitting there listening to someone say something stupid.
It's like, you need to calm down. I'm like, no f***ing shit.
They need to shut up. What you need to do is just set
like a sort of a ringer alarm for it
where it's super loud. Anytime somebody says something
dumb as f***.
Super loud.
Sorry, I'm stressed.
Fuck.
Sorry, I have an allergy. It alerts me me too i'm allergic to dipshits maybe that'll get me fired quicker like i told my last class of students
they're just like oh you know we can go say this and this sounds like i don't care fire me i don't
give a shit anymore and like it's funny because the place that i work at the academy they straight
up told us they're like look no one's coming to replace you you have to find your own replacement it's like so you
could have just told me i can do whatever the i want from the get-go because that's how i received
it it's like you can't fire me because you can't find anyone to replace me so i'm gonna do what i
want i love how anti-military you went from hua to i'm finishing and retiring to
it's such a fast period turnaround.
I was like, oh yeah, there we go.
You sound like Jack Black in School of Rock where he's like, I'm going to take a nap.
Y'all do what you fucking want.
You know what's funny is I nap like three days a week
in my office, just close and lock the doors.
And I got a couch in there.
It's awesome.
No one's going to interrupt Big Sarge.
No, man.
Fuck, dude.
I just, this is the thing.
I had a, after we had that episode where Nick and you and Tyler and everybody convinced
me to like part ways with the military and it, you know, came full circle.
Sorry, nobody saw that episode.
Yeah.
Yes.
The most watched one on the channel.
Of course.
It's like the monster that's just like.
And after that, I, I like, I have this wall of like accolades.
It has like my MSMsms my rcoms like all
the awards i've gotten from like being a battery trainer and all this other shit and i walked past
that one day and i looked at it and i was like man they took years off my life for like a 50
dollar plaque this job like i was just immediately pissed i was doing the numbers i think we talked
about it's like doing the numbers of your retirement how much is going to be versus just like hey let's just focus on you know a couple do it those few years
just dedicate to your work yeah and the sheer difference you're like okay four years is not
worth four years yeah yeah definitely four years and i i mean honestly i i look back now and i was
like why was i i was i it was like Stockholm Syndrome. That's what it was.
The military is really good at Stockholm Syndrome.
It's not that bad.
You're standing in the rain at 3 in the morning.
You haven't eaten in 18 hours.
This could be worse.
I could be living in L.A.
I don't know.
I mean, that's fair.
You been to L.A. recently?
No, never been.
I don't want to go.
You can't make me whatever you
think it is yeah it's like polka just like reverse every once in a while like every probably every
like year or so i'll think in my head like you know what there are nice parts about la the beaches
are beautiful the weather's nice like you know what maybe if i've got a work reason to go back
i'll go back and then i do and then immediately i'm hit by the reality of like just homeless dicks shit on the street
the world the earth when you're just flying around lax looks like it has cancer it looks like the one
movie they escaped from la like yeah there it is the whole zone down there snake plissken's having
fun we're just gonna rename it to battlefield la yeah brandon and i were in la like a couple months ago and uh we took my girlfriend there and she's like
there's no way there's human poop everywhere like you guys talk about we walk like the one of the
first streets we go down there's just shit everywhere one block from the hotel yeah tent
city like is i just i a lot of places are getting like that my uh little sister she got into a
motorcycle accident she lives up in washington and my mom went up there to be with her she's in
rehab right now she broke her pelvis both hips her wrists like she's she's positive about the
whole situation though we're in washington um everett washington oh yeah godspeed yeah because
he used to be up that way right yeah ever it's Ever. It's like the, it's where the four or five and the fit,
whatever that they merge together.
But it's that it's not a good,
it used to be great.
Used to be.
And then.
Yeah.
My mom,
she flew into SeaTac,
Seattle,
Tacoma.
And she's like,
Seattle's a cesspool.
Like it's bad.
You know,
human feces everywhere,
tent city,
homeless population and
my little sister's like yeah some of the things that people are doing nowadays is apparently
they're taking like rubber bands and they're like shooting needles at passers-by and i was like
i will go to prison i will fucking murder somebody i that sounds like just dude this is a place where
uh it is they have parking outside there was a big issue with these rvs uh they
would buy an rv and just park it in a nice neighborhood just out front in front of the
house and you can't do anything about it so you just have a homeless person or an rv tent well
that's par for the course but the rubber band needle thing is like that's like worse than anything in the anarchist cookbook that's i will darts
you got hiv you got hiv now i got you fucking oh no pull it out
i assume it's just like homeless vagrants who already have HIV.
So it's just like biological warfare.
You think you're better than me?
Dude, the only amount of rage I could ever compare to that,
and it's not even comparable,
but it's about as close as I've ever experienced.
The worst wake-up I've ever had in my entire military career.
I was at Fort Carson.
It was 29 below zero.
We were doing a platoon patrol base
you're familiar with those you got like you and your buddies like a wedge sector of fire all that
jazz meanwhile i had like maybe three hours of sleep max because the the army um sleeping bag
it'll keep you alive in that temperature it will not keep you comfortable like alive is the best
you're gonna get and it snowed overnight and i had my the waterproof cover we call it a bivy cover on the sleeping bag and i remember i opened it and
a foot of snow fell straight onto my face after freezing my balls off all night get like two hours
of sleep instant rage zero to homicide i would have killed everything i i was in ashville north
carolina which is if you know about ashville it it's like the Los Angeles of the Blue Ridge Mountains.
It's called the Portland of the East Coast.
Yeah, it's kind of like the same type of people.
And, like, I was there one weekend.
I was doing a vlog, like, hanging out with my family.
And there was this, like, homeless dude with all these tattoos over his face and all over his body.
And he was just, like, flicking my camera off.
And he wouldn't stop doing that.
And I'm like, hey, back off a little bit, dude.
A week later, there's this big news article
where this cat got stabbed with a bunch of needles like over a dozen needles and it got you know it
died of course obviously and uh it was that dude they put him on the newspapers and stuff so when
all this hurricane stuff happened i was worried about all the residents down there the floods
and stuff but like one of the things in the back of my mind. I was like, really hope that fucking guy died.
The good news is people like that don't have a very long life expectancy.
That's true.
I'm glad.
Hi, it's your boy.
Long time viewer, first time caller.
I'm glad that there's no miscommunication here.
There are, in fact, people in this world who deserve to die.
Some people are like, no one deserves to die.
Well, I can think of a few.
I got a short list.
It's the Bill Burr.
It's like, all right, you could say it's bad, but no reason.
Man, I forgot about any of the training that you do in the military.
It's always that god-awful god-awful
in the coldest...
You were in Korea?
I'm just watching Eli skirt the monetization
symbol right now.
It's like, we're getting close.
Anyway, military training.
I guess that was my fault.
Back to the needle.
Guess some people deserve to die what are we talking about god damn it my bad i got too comfortable here
you're part of it are you taking off your boots cody what like what is the shit military things
you had to do like when you were aor. I forgot about that. Yeah.
I've never heard of Cody's like,
this sucked.
We heard about the PSP.
Oh yeah, never mind. That's some PTSD.
I'm going to cum.
It's on my PSP.
I rewatched that episode we were on where you told that story about
throwing the mattress out and everything.
I was driving back from Houston, I think, and I crying laughing i was there it was just a funny fucking story
don't think about it let's come back to it what was your rate in the navy i don't even know
that did a lot of shit uh i was supposed to be an avionic electronic technician
and then i went to auxiliary security force on Norfolk Naval base for over a
year.
And then I tried to be a seal and I went to a program called the nug program,
new useless guy.
And I did that for a long time.
My command forgot about me.
So it was just like swimming,
working out every day.
And then I went to buds and buds didn't work out.
So I,
I,
my naval service was pretty subpar.
Dude, you got
trapped in that thing that you love
where it's like everyone forgets about you and you're like
I hope the government doesn't
remember me. Because you would have retired
if they would have just stayed there for 20 years.
You'd be like... Your job was to
swim in San Diego.
How awful was that?
It was pretty rad.
He's like, never find me.
Never find me.
When we landed back to Iraq during mid-tour,
it was a sandstorm.
That was whiplash.
No, it's going back.
It is because you just get time off
where you're just like,
I hope this storm doesn't end
because when you land,
they have to fly you in helicopter to your station.
They couldn't take off.
So it's just a sandstorm.
And I'm grounded for like, I think it was 15 days where I'm supposed to be in combat.
I was like, maybe the sandstorm just goes on for like two months.
Your boy skirts two months of war.
And then finally it cleared up.
Like, hey, you're flying out.
It's like, fuck.
Okay.
You know what's interesting is I've never been deployed to a place that had like that wall of sand that sandstorm so
like i did afghanistan and uae and they both happened there but both times i was there i was
in rc south in afghanistan monsoon season i remember standing in the guard tower like begging
the sog sergeant of the guard for my poncho I had built an igloo out of ammo
boxes trying to block the rain and he like runs up the stairs and just throws it at me and runs
back away I'm freezing my balls off but like that happened and then uh in UAE uh we had like our
Patriot site and uh I don't know if you guys know this there's um aside from a sailboat the best known catcher
of wind is the door of a patriot ecs i don't know if you know that and it was fucking pissing rain
and it was it was blowing sideways and i remember i opened the door and there's like a pressure
differential inside and outside the van and it caught the door and smashed my fingers in the
door jam and then yanked my shoulder real hard and i
i almost broke that door i was out i was trying to punch the wind in the face let me put it to
you that way like i was that fucking angry you're like the florida man
how do the missiles work in the hurricane or not hurricane? Or not the hurricane, the sand. Well, I assume you're not supposed to fire them in tornado winds.
You shoot the hurricane with the missiles.
We actually have a setting that...
I was going to say, I guarantee they have...
Because they wouldn't be like, well, the Iron Dame's going down.
The missiles ain't going to stop them.
I assume Tel Aviv doesn't get hit with many tornadoes.
That's true.
But sandstorms. I guess the easiest way to explain it. Tel Aviv doesn't get hit with many tornadoes. That's true.
Sandstorms.
I guess the easiest way to explain it, so we have a gale force authorization inside of our van.
And what that does is,
so the missile has to know where it's going,
so the radar has to tell it where it is.
The missile knows where it is
because it knows where it is and types shit.
Thank you for reciting that,
because I was going to.
Of course.
So the missile comes out.
It's in the tism. You just. Of course. So the missile comes out. It's in the tism.
You just have to do it.
So missile comes out.
Radar acquires missile.
And there's an uplink, downlink, right?
And gale force winds, as that missile comes out, it can shift left or right.
So what it does is it opens that gate of where the missile passes through when the radar acquires it.
So if it comes out and it's pushed sideways, the radar knows where it is.
So it just widens the cone of where it can catch it.
That's all I got, yep.
Okay.
This reminds me of that viral YouTube,
the missile knows.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
The missile knows where it is
because the missile knows where it is not.
We got to tell it all that.
The missile's dumb as shit.
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so all radar does is go left yeah go left go right and then one of our missiles uh it's called going
pitbull for anyone whoever works uh so it attacks a toddler in the ocean
yeah the pitbull swims a mile out to sea to attack its drowning toddler
people are getting angry in the comment section
there's some guys who like radar guided missiles who's like let him
finish the pitbull yeah pitbull owner i can make those jokes fuck you that's my race card
so one of our missiles we got it in the whole way and the other one we so the target
doesn't know the missile is coming because we don't like paint it with anything special it's
called a track wall scan or track wall search it depends where you read it the radar just looks at
the missile and looks at the target and tells the missile where to go and then about give or take i
mean like unclass is like about half a second before impact. The radar goes, you got it. And the missile goes, I got it.
And just smokes it.
Yeah.
Oh, so it's like right up until the moment.
So it's kind of like what the old like wire guided stuff used to do as soon as it like reached the end of the wire.
It's like, all right, I know where I'm going from here and just disconnect.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm not too experienced with wire guided stuff.
But yeah, going pit bull.
But that's why every pilot, including a couple of friendly ones have never survived a patriot engagement yeah we shot down three
friendly pilots wasn't me like i wasn't there i hope not yeah no i like i didn't do it but uh
that's the title of this episode british tornado and that news article
find out something radically new about you you're just like yeah so that's my pst ptsd
those poor children fuck dude those pilots had no idea what the fuck was coming but it looked cool
jesus what was the situation on that though i'm really curious so the imagine so the way radar
works is we're all about to feel really bad about making those jokes now.
So imagine—the way radar works is imagine you walk into a room and it's pitch black,
and you have to figure out who is in there by their sound, how they move, and how they smell.
I got to look at it.
That's kind of the way a radar works.
So, like, if you're an enemy aircraft, you don't want me to know what you are.
But if you're a friendly aircraft, oftentimes you have your identified friend or foe turned off,
and you don't want anyone to know what you are because that's i mean the easiest way to go fuck ups at all you know that's
what they were doing so friendly aircraft went out did a bombing run they were on their way back in
i actually talked to one of the his wingman uh like uh one-on-one i talked to his wingman the
juice was the guy that we killed in the american f-18 that was his call sign juice and uh what
they did i loved his football career you know the whole wife situation that's uh you know well you know you can't win them all
although he didn't in court but so back then our radars couldn't be fan of broncos
fuck i love that god damn it we'll go back to that just the ridiculousness oh man uh so back
then our radars were were good but they're not as good as they are now like i know a lot more
information about somebody we have okay i don't know how much of that i can say but we know a lot
about something flying through the air um and what they did is they dove uh towards the airfield now
when you what it is is it's a threshold of kinematic criteria,
your altitude, how fast you're diving, length discrimination,
all these other factors.
And what the system did back then is said, that's an enemy missile.
The system thought that the pilot diving towards the airfield
was an enemy missile headed towards the airfield.
And back then, operators were trained that the system is smarter than you.
If it recommends something, that's what it is.
Now we know that the system is imperfect.
So operators have to verify everything.
Why did it make, uh, why did they dive toward the airfield?
Honestly, I don't know.
When I talked to the pilot, that was his wingman.
He straight up admitted.
He's like, we, we were instructed to dive towards the airfield.
And he goes to this day.
I have no idea why we did that.
That's very
strange like random and telling at the same time yeah he he doesn't know why uh he explained that
they use conspiracy from big missile big missile big missile go foosh and guy go bye-bye what that's
fucking crazy though when it don't because i'm assuming they knew that maneuver would maybe set it off beforehand or no? This is 2003 and not a lot was known about American Patriot.
And back then, pilots weren't really well instructed on air defense, like American air defense.
They were taught a lot about the enemy.
But then back then, we also didn't know too much about our friendly air capabilities.
The guy came off of the USS Kitty Hawk, which is crazy because my brother served on the kitty hawk it was an old carrier diesel carrier and uh he i've heard
rumors that he actually successfully ejected and then drowned in the lake oh shit don't know how
true that is i've heard rumors of it i i have no idea what the truth is there but they did but they
kind of got us back the air
force got us back because there was a british tornado shot down same situation they dove
towards the airfield and we smoked two british pilots the f-18 dove towards the airfield smoked
an f-18 an f-16 actually saw the radar picked up the radar the radar knew it was an f-16 so it's
like hey i'm gonna leave it alone the f-16 didn't know the radar was the radar it came around behind it and smoked it with an anti-radiation missile
so yeah they kind of got him back yeah iraq 2003 was a wild place for air defense holy
wait hold the console he didn't know his own friendly he just got pinged and so he's like
that's a lot of like taking it out yeah and then oh you land you like
a fucking took out a missile launcher and they're like that was yours that was yeah so yeah how much
is that those things are like 150 million dollars a piece yeah that's a but i mean was it unmanned
uh so the radar itself is unmanned so it's just smoked the radar yeah no
one died in it that's a harder thing to explain they actually got it back up and running in 24
hours i talked to one of the guys that was out there he's like dude if we would have moved that
radar an inch all the connectors would have came undone because they were like just held together
with like bubble gum and like random wires they found they're like but we got it running so i was
wondering because like you mentioned that the the there was talk that the guy had survived and,
you know,
drowned after ejecting.
Um,
how much,
what's the missile payload like on that thing?
Cause I'm just thinking the,
just the raw TBI force of a rocket or excuse me,
a missile going off that close.
If it makes contact with your aircraft,
like that's gotta fuck you up.
It depends on the missile pack three, a Patriot advanced capability capability version three those are kinetic kill tip to tip that's the
way they work yeah of course i had to make a tip to tip joke yep um pack love it too which is what
he got hit with is a proximity kill so as it approaches it explodes like a shotgun shell
through it so there's a distance gap that could be anywhere. Yeah. So, I mean, it's a 16-foot missile moving at roughly unclassified Mach 4,
hitting with the kinetic energy of a freight train going off a 70-story building.
So it's a pretty hard hit.
Like it's a pretty hard hit.
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to an advisor free of charge yeah i was just i was just trying to think of like a scenario where
the pilot if there is an explosive on something like that like even if i don't know like just how
you survive that because i mean an explosive that close even a low much much smaller payload of
explosive well he might have gotten lucky because it engaged him like a missile so patriot engages missiles different than we engage aircraft when
we engage aircraft for various reasons not just lethality and this is going to sound really war
to anyone who's never heard it go on and i can say this because lieutenant commander candeloro
said that we don't very good to point out the exact name go on i'm gonna say the exact name
it doesn't target the aircraft we target the exact name go on i'm gonna say the exact name it doesn't
target the aircraft we target the cockpit it comes down on top of the cockpit so why is that uh
if you can say i don't know if i can say okay that's fine dude that's one of those hard ones
it's like with certain weapons it's not you can't use it on enemy personnel but you can use it on
their armor system, their weapons.
Remember we talked about this the other day.
The chin strap?
Yeah.
I aimed at his comms gear.
Take a look there.
The.50 cal is an anti-material weapon, which is why I aimed for his ear pro when he was turned to the left.
Aha.
The.50, I. Aha. The 50.
I love it.
The M2 was here.
The M2 is the just most perfect weapon system.
Like everyone always asks me like,
what's your favorite weapon?
HLC.
Like if I,
if you don't want me to pick between like,
you know,
handheld crew serve,
anything M2 heavy barrel,
50 caliber machine gun.
It's just,
it's perfection in motion.
It didn't.
There we go.
Doctor.
If you have somebody who accurately headspaces and times that gun, it runs.
I have a confession to tell you, and this may hurt your feelings a whole lot.
Oh, dear.
The newer versions we have in the Army.
They do it themselves.
Shove in, twist, done.
That hurt my feelings.
I know that.
Oh, I'm sorry.
The hours I spent on stupid classes.
And they fire better dirty.
Don't ever clean your M2.
You give it a quick wipe, some CLP, move on.
They fire better dirty.
You want a girl with some experience, you know?
Oh, yeah, of course.
Dude, once I heard that, I was like, get the fuck out of here.
You just have to screw this in, and then it locks in, and then that's it.
Yep.
I'm like, yeah, you don't do the three rotations out.
Look at the window.
Okay.
It's good.
Put in no, no, no, no.
Gage.
And you're doing all that dumb shit just for it to run.
Right.
That, and you really don't need to after, well, you, you don't need to do it every
time after you, you know, your gun where you're like, oh, okay, that one that likes
to be screwed in all the way.
And then you unscrew it three clicks out. Like, if you know gun you know what it likes that's right in the sweet spot yeah and
you try to memorize that sweet spot so you just make assembling and disassembling if i remember i
mean it was 14 years ago i think my my truck's 50 was seven clicks yeah unless she was hot when
she was hot it was five oh thermal expansion that's you got a gun sitting on top of a truck
at 120 degrees it's gonna expand well dude it is terrifying when you use this like the uh mgs system
and then the thermals and how it compensates for like when you're driving at 60 miles per hour
hitting bumps that the target doesn't move when you're aimed at something it's like the vehicle
is like going everywhere and it's just like chicken head,
just gyroscope right onto your target.
That's the same as an Abrams.
Just hold the Cadillacs.
That gun will,
you could turn that tank in every different direction.
That gun's going to stay right where it's at.
And then you see the rounds just like thunk, thunk, thunk.
Boom, boom, boom.
And you just see explosions in the thermal.
You're like, hey, hey, hey.
Because those are the ones that they were,
they were doing the videos of the tanks firing after jumping a ramp and firing in midair because the gyroscopes were
that good oh yeah did you notice if you pay real close attention to that video the tank is riding
a little bit lower after that because those tanks have torsion bar suspension just like
so they have a giant bar that's like this big that runs through the whole hull and there's a
wishbone on either end and and it twists the metal.
That's the suspension on an Abrams main battle tank.
And if you come down hard enough, you'll snap them motherfuckers,
and you've got to pull everything apart.
So it's just like the old school Dukes of Hazzard,
where it's like, yeah, it made the jump, didn't make the landing.
They just rotate things like there's a good commercial beat.
After seven seasons, you've got 300 cars sitting over there on the side that didn't make it.
Yeah.
I've never lost one of those.
I've thrown track back when I was a tanker.
I've thrown track.
My lieutenant, he threw track hard enough, and I'd never seen this before.
So in the track, there's cooling tubes that go all the way through it.
And if you see an Abrams, like, after it's been driving for a while, drive through water, the track will steam because those cooling tubes are so hot.
And he went to pivot steer.
His driver did.
And a cooling tube shot out and stuck in a tree like 50 meters away.
And the track just came apart.
I was like, I have never seen some shit like that.
Like I've never seen a cooling tube shot out.
It ejected straight out like it snapped.
I was just going to ask, is that bad for it to rapidly cool
apparently
I guarantee somebody has died
by that
the squad of guys that were pinned to that tree
it's just a formation
the dude kebab
in the pine tree
just lower the tank
sorry I think a tank did it The dude kebab in the pine tree. Just lower the tank.
Sorry, I think a tank did it.
You just shot a cooling tube at us.
Dude, like tearing track off is for the people that don't know it.
I've never had to deal with it.
I've dealt with like changing a tire, a striker tire and that's still got 200 300 pounds or something honestly so aside from the weight of the track itself the abrams has
really really cool tools and they work most of the time we have these things called track jacks
and what they are is they're a hook on both ends they weigh like 25 pounds and you put those around
the cooling tubes when you're trying to close your track put one on the inside one on the outside and then the slave receptacle on the back of the tank
you have an impact that plugs into that you just and it pulls the track together and then you put
on the end connector it's actually pretty cool oh it's just like my uncle uh when he was you know
trying to change the uh the main springs on his car and his axles just like doing clamps on them
oh shit yeah just like staggering those and just like compressing it that's that's working hand grenade
scary yeah no he didn't live very long I don't know why I can't imagine he may or
may not have a strut like impacted so sternum I don't like doing struts man
another terrified it's just an act of hand grenade you like cinch it down like
ratchet system you're like what's the pressure rating on this thing i don't want to be around this
there's some guys are like it's not that bad they have like a like a snap-on 700 wall mounted like
compressor that they use and i was like yeah if i had that i wouldn't be nervous about him either
but i'm here with a ratchet strap and a prayer what's what's fucking interesting though about
the abrams is uh is how much you're
not allowed to work on them i didn't know that until like some friends of mine that i talked to
like they they used to run the abrams back when the marine corps had those but they didn't have
the security clearance like if they needed to do something with the armor or something like that oh
yeah you can't you can't touch that because that is so classified yeah you tear open the armor
it's like you put a tarp over it and you call General Dynamics. They come out and f*** with it.
Like the engine and shit, that's all us.
But, yeah.
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Okay, so I didn't know that.
I know it's like reactive armor plus everything else.
Probably very bad for you, armor.
So an average Abrams doesn't come with the reactive armor.
That's part of the Tusk set.
Tusk is tank urban survival kit.
Okay.
My tank didn't have ERA, explosive reactive armor.
But the standard armor...
Do you know what reactive armor is?
Dude, it's fucking...
I would love to have been in the pitch meeting for reactive armor.
You just sit up and...
So, basically...
Ready to go?
People started penetrating people started penetrating
tank armor with things like shape charges and whatnot so like you have an rpg7 where
basically the front cone of it is just copper yeah of course fucking yeah yeah it's just
liquefied by the high explosives which then creates a jet of liquid metal that penetrates
a hole and pushes explosive through that hole and uh into the cabin and you know fries everything
cooks the guys inside so reactive armor is the idea that how do we beat fire fire so the armor
on the tank explodes the other way yeah it's literally like it takes the explosion to go oh
something's exploding sets off the explosives in the armor to try to redirect and basically
weaken that jet of metal.
Which I would just love to have been in that
pitch meeting where the guy's just like,
I know how we beat that explosive that
just hit our tank. What if we make the tank explode?
The other way. Hundreds of
bricks of explosive with metal plates.
That's the most American thing I've ever heard in my life, dude.
As they're saying,
you have stacks of just
essentially C4 facing outwards.
Like Claymore's just that way.
It sounds like they're bringing in J.J. Abrams.
How do we beat these explosives?
Explosives.
And linch flares. I don't even know which country
came up with explosive reactive armor.
It had to be us. I want to say it was us,
but I see a lot more Russian tanks with it than I do
American tanks. They probably adopted it afterwards. I want to say it was us, but I see a lot more Russian tanks with it than I do American tanks. They probably
adopted it afterwards. I think, was it T...
Well, it would have been like the T-80s or
90s. When did that first come into play?
I actually come to think of it. That does sound like a very
Russian thing. Now that you say it out loud.
That's, yeah. We want armor
that explodes outward. Here, we try
on Igor first. It's almost like we have a...
Like, imagine if it's reactive chestplates.
Oh, God, yeah.
Works very well for tank,
not very good for even.
Dude, it's...
We have a...
At the Fort Sill Training Support Facility
at the Air Defense Artillery location,
they have...
I don't know what it's called exactly.
It's a tracked Russian vehicle
that has quad 20 millimeters on it.
And it's like one of their anti- has quad 20 millimeters on it and it's like they're
one of their anti-aircraft guns i didn't realize how shitty russian equipment is because like right
next to it is an m bradley linebacker it's an m6 bradley linebacker which is a bradley designed for
anti-air instead of tow missiles it's got stingers on it and you go over to the bradley and you knock
on it it's like solid like it feels like you're knocking on concrete it does not give you go over to that russian thing it's like it's made of like
rolled aluminum it is just so just shitty i'm like the survivability that's awful no wonder
they think the bradley's fucking amazing it's not built for it no people are replaceable in
russia remember that it well there is and and you know it sucks but like to prove that every
military has that is how much is the person worth versus the equipment?
And what is the manufacturing capacity to replace the person versus the equipment?
And that's unfortunately the devil's arithmetic for certain things like that.
I think the U.S. military, I remember reading somewhere, and it could have changed, is they value a human life, like a soldier's life, at around $90,000.
Which, I'd take that.
You know, I'm good with that. Me being worth about $90,000, I I'd take that. You know, I'm good with that.
Me being worth about 90 grand, I'll take it.
I learned that in Fight Club.
That's him.
Brad Norton's talking about like the car manufacturing company
because he works with insurance companies.
He's like, well, if the cost of doing a recall
is more than just paying the family off that died in our cars,
we just don't do a recall.
Holy shit.
That's a fight club.
For a second, I thought Cody was talking about he joined a fight club.
I was like, what?
I'm talking about that in my fight club.
Plus B equals C, then like, okay, we're not going to recall the cars.
We're okay with the casualties.
And you know that's a real thing.
It is absolutely a real thing.
100%.
Someone has to do that math.
Also, I found out who made the first reactive explosive.
Excuse me, reactive armor.
Austria.
Oh, excuse me, Australia.
Huh.
You know, Australia, they get, hold on, they don't get the credit they're due.
You know, they also came up with the cardboard drones that are used in Ukraine right now.
They made cardboard drones.
They're like a couple hundred dollars a piece. They're full of of explosive and they've been using the shit out of them on russia
the ukrainians have cardboard like they come in a kit like you're putting together a model airplane
no shit and it's just fly explosives and they just made a cardboard made a cardboard so i don't know
what the returns are on a radar from cardboard but like i mean if it's two a couple hundred bucks to
make they charge what even charging a grand for they sell them in a pallet like like flat box together and you just grab one
and like dude it's so wild the australians are like the devil's origami we can't pay these
soldiers to do this i got an idea okay there's this elementary school right down the street
we just do arts and crafts once a week.
We pay the kids.
Make sure the crease is nice and tight,
Betty.
Whoever gets the most gets $10.
You have kids racing to put these things together.
We'll be fine.
You're getting a pizza party.
It's like the perfect
weapon. We have designed
the perfect system. Good have designed the perfect system.
Good effect on target, Alan.
Apparently, they were trying to defeat Japanese 75mm hollow charge shells
that were being used against allied tanks in the Pacific.
At 40s, this happened?
1944.
Did not know that.
I would have not guessed that.
I would have guessed way later
yeah no that was
that's I learned
something new today
where it was I
learned something new
today too and so
did you hopefully
unless you're Nick
Nick probably knew
this no you know
what I got something
that Nick doesn't
know I learned
about something
recently and I
because I do a lot
of my research for
like my USA versus
the world series and
I was doing research
on yeah right
we're the reigning champions right now, just so everybody knows.
Watch you by underdog.
You want to make a bet on World War III?
I sure as shit do.
The over-under.
So, the Brits.
I didn't know they had this.
And I love that I get to use these words in succession together when I describe this.
I love the Stinger. Let me first start I describe this. I love the Stinger.
Let me first start with saying that.
I love the Stinger missile.
It's a great shoulder-fired missile.
It's a solid missile.
I mean, it does good effect on target.
They're affordable.
I like it.
I love it.
But the Brits, they came out swinging.
They have something called the HVM, and I love that i get to use these words the hvm is a mach 3.5 shoulder fired
rocket that or excuse me missile that locks on and has three tail stabilized explosive
fragmentation darts inside of it why what is it used for aircraft apparently you yeeted out of
mach 3.5 and you can find pictures of it got three metal explosive darts in it that are
like this long are they like stagger stacked in it no they're all three together like this
yeah it's like a giant flechette that explodes i do you turn me on brother that's metal as
i was reading about i was like yeah uk that's what i'm talking about well the the real question
is did they give a thousand of them to a CIA operative named Tim Osman?
I don't know how many of them they even have.
If you don't know that joke, Google it.
I'm going to be assassinated.
It's when Brandon died yesterday.
You guys know that, right?
You get that, right?
I don't know that thing. You get that, right? I don't know that one. Oh, yeah, that was the CIA
handle that we gave to
Osama Bin Laden back when he was working for us.
No shit. Yeah.
Whole Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, all that.
That's when Rocky 3 came out.
Oh, I'm sorry, Rainbow 3.
Was it Rainbow 3? I never noticed that.
I have the dishka from that movie.
I have the rubber dishka from that movie.
Oh, I was like, how the f*** have we never fired that thing i was like oh i've got it i've got a dishka but i don't have
the dishka from that movie okay uh i was like that dish is actually hilarious because uh they
had no idea what a dishka was didn't have access to like cloning it because it's during the cold
war uh so they just had a rubber replica made of an M2,
and they just added the finned barrel with the big anti-aircraft sights and the muzzle brake, and they're just like, good enough.
Fucking nobody will know the difference.
That looks like a dish gun.
Government work.
Good enough government work.
Clap their hands off.
I didn't know.
I would very much like to see that someday.
Come by the shop.
All right.
When it's not flooded.
Yeah, that's fair.
So let me preface this by stating that I thought long and hard about this,
and I didn't want to, like, it was a moral dilemma for me,
and I may have made, like, legitimately need whistleblower protection here.
Not the podcast for that.
I mean, we are good people.
You want me to leave it alone?
No, you go.
I don't care. So I just want to leave it alone? No, you go.
I don't care.
We can.
So I just want to know what the fuck.
Something happened recently.
We all end up dead.
They kind of turned me.
And now I'm like, all right, something's got to be said.
So I don't know if you know this, but in Oklahoma City, two Afghan men who showed up during Operation Afghan Welcome or Allies Refuge or whatever they called it that week, right?
The people we brought in from Afghanistan, the 130,000 of them.
Oh, this is right during the ending of
the plot.
I have a guess on a year.
This is this year.
Oh, really? Oh, shit.
I don't know what you were about to give us information on,
but I'm like, Oklahoma City.
I'm like, oh, no.
So, in Oklahoma City, they were...
I was like, oh, shit. you really might need whistleblower protection
yo so these two guys were just arrested by the fbi because they were planning with isis k which
is the isis that's in afghanistan to shoot up voting booths on voting day oh i saw that yeah
so that was this year.
These guys, then you find out later on down the road, they weren't properly vetted. And here's
the thing. I was in the G cell. I worked in the G three, uh, during operation Afghan welcome at
task force picket. I was privy to a lot of information. Now during humanitarian missions,
you understand that there's a lot of people that come in and there's a lot of diseases that come
in. Like every other day it was leishmaniasis,
uh,
smallpox,
like pick a disease aside from like polio.
It came through our borders.
Just so you guys know,
the part that I have a problem with is I was watching the United States
government hemorrhage about a million dollars a week per base.
There was seven bases doing this simultaneously.
Okay.
So there's that seven mil a week,
seven mil a week. Seven mil a week.
We did this for six months straight.
And meanwhile, so this was at 35 million a year.
Something like that. I have no idea.
How is it?
In this time, we found.
27 weeks.
They got free housing, free medical, free food, free everything, taking care of them by the U.S. government.
But they didn't want to follow the rules.
We paid contractors to clean the latrines. me yeah we paid contractors uh to clean the latrines three times a day and they were still shitting on the ground next to the
latrine um so like okay i get it there's some things they started making shanks and stealing
from each other like there was a lot of bad shit that happened but the problem that i have is we were a million dollars per week and there were
seven of them seven bases yes 28 weeks or 27 weeks times seven million 189 million yeah
yeah what the so that's how i know the government now brent's like oh oh yeah fuck that's how i know
the government doesn't care about homelessness because if we could do that for 130 000 people at the drop of a hat why can't we take care of our citizens that way just
the problem i have is and i was kicked out of this meeting i was well i was assertively
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every single day we were told yeah we were told every day that we were not allowed to stop them
going anywhere which is fine humanitarian thing but then we would get notified about a
couple times a week of walk-offs people who just walk off the base and never come back and i was
like i asked the question i said hey we have customs and border patrol here if they want to
walk off the base and not go through the fingerprinting and processing background checks
everything else just have customs and border patrol arrest them and send their asses back
like they don't want to follow the rules. They can leave.
I was told to leave that meeting because we had to allow them to walk off the base.
So there's people here from Afghanistan who were allowed to walk off of those bases and were never vetted, never went through health care, never did anything.
There's not many, but there are here.
It would be just let them on and off with no.
They would let them leave, completely leave and never come back.
I have a, I have a story that's associated with that. Actually, just something that I've, I've heard from, and I didn't know the context until just now when you told me, uh, was, you know, friends that I have that, uh, you know, active duty that were told that basically like, Hey, these guys are your responsibility.
You got to like, just basically put up with them for a while.
Like you have these, you know, 20 dudes you got to gotta watch and whatnot and they were asking him like can we go to
walmart he's like no he's like but we need cell phone like the fuck you do yeah and basically
just telling him like no sit down like i'm not taking you off walmart like i don't even like you
here i i that was and this is while you were over there this is no this is while i was
in virginia in task at task force pickett yeah you're hearing everything i was watching it all
come in yeah watching it all come in and i was just like i and i bit my tongue and hats off to
the 26 mu the the marine expeditionary unit the 26 mu because those guys showed up and they were
i don't know if mu has ever done a humanitarian mission but like i was in the g cell
and they're like yo sorry you need to go down there and tell the marines to stop drawing ammo
we're like they're drawing ammo they had like convoys lined up they're like we need 50 cal
we need five five six seven six two and i was like guys this is humanitarian they're like so we can't
have bullets so less 50 cal got it less 50 cal more 240 they just got to make this humanitarian guy yeah the marines and then
it was just don't get me wrong there was there was absolutely good people who came through our
borders there was absolutely people who wanted to go through the unprocessing become an american
citizen you know do everything the right way and get an opportunity here so i would never want to
which we love and that's the thing it's like everyone is on board for that thing because there was a lot of people that got fucked over that did help a lot of individuals overseas.
There was a lot of dudes.
They risked their lives and their families' lives to help us.
And then they still got fucked over in the long run.
Like, who's the boy that got?
The Terp?
Yeah.
There was a couple of Terps.
And then the one dude that just saved... Sniper guy.
Chris Kyle?
No.
Jake Gyllenhaal?
He was played by...
The other movie.
Oh, you're talking about Lone Survivor.
Lone Survivor.
Marcus Luttrell.
Marcus Luttrell.
Oh my god, why the fuck Mark?
I don't know
i forgot his name i was like are you talking about the guy richie movie like no mark uh but that's
like that whole thing with that dude that found him and went through that entire process and now
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I'm going.
What's interesting is I saw that movie after Afghanistan.
Great movie, by the way.
Highly recommend it.
Wonderful movie.
I'll never watch it again.
I was like pouring sweat, like leaving the movie theater.
And it was fucked up because I could understand the Afghans because they were actually speaking posh too in the movie and that is the only instance of posh
toon wally i have ever seen a posh toon wally is pretty much like a posh toon saying i will protect
you no matter what and what he did for marcus latrell is an example of posh toon wally i've
never seen it in any other example that's's the only example I've ever seen.
Them actually following through.
Them actually following through with Pashtun Wali.
Sorry, a little cultural thing, but yeah.
No, that's really interesting.
Yeah.
That's wild.
Your side story with Marcus Luttrell.
Who were we talking to?
We're Marcus, or who's Marcus's brother?
Morgan. Morgan.
Morgan Luttrell got on a plane with a guy.
Yeah.
I told you.
Oh, yeah,, Oh yeah.
You're talking about that.
What?
Oh God.
A guy didn't realize he was talking to Morgan,
Marcus's twin brother.
And it was claiming to be Marcus Latrell.
What?
Oh,
you didn't hear this?
No.
What the fuck?
To be a fly on the wall,
bro.
And the guy was like,
and by the way, Morgan Luttrell is not
a nobody either. Also, he looks
just like him. Yeah, he's like
identical twin in this dude. I thought this was
Marcus Luttrell.
But yeah, it was like,
oh, please tell me about Marcus.
Tell me about yourself.
Oh my God.
Oh my God. Oh my God.
He's stolen Valor.
So fucking weird where it is that next degree.
You're like,
surely they're not getting,
Oh my God,
they're going this deep into that fantasy world.
You know,
it's crazy.
Oh,
go ahead.
No,
no,
no.
What's crazy about it.
And I've never really ran into somebody.
Well,
okay.
There's one guy I knew who stole valor, but like, it's the guys who served like six months
to three years who were like, you're a discretionary.
Like they freak out.
And the dudes who all did like 10, 15 years were like, you're an idiot.
And just roll out.
Like it's all the guys who've been in a long time.
It's like, I, you're stupid.
Yeah.
I don't care.
We've seen that one at the plane.
That's the only time I can think about. Stend a sternum.
What?
What's the guy talking about stabbing people?
Akio, I know. They taught me how to
kill a man 16 ways.
Cut a man, stend a sternum.
And you're like, this is
weird for Brandon.
I know it was for the live shows. The live shows.
Oh my God, yeah. I just sat next to one of them and i was like i'm like dude i've i've spent a lot of my
life around people that have actually done shit like that none of them talk that way
not a single one like dudes who have seen the the worst like most abhorrent shit like the
medal of honor recipients are like the chillest. Yeah.
They're like super laid back.
Like they're not like don't produce cortisol anymore.
That's I mean,
I've,
I've said it's really hard for like stress levels are what you go through in
life.
And then that's your reset to your stress level,
your reset to your stress level.
And then you go through that so many times metal of honor recipients where it's like so like you're like man like mine takes a lot to
like kick it off but then i meet other guys like dude but they're all very just like
they're very just go with the flow you see they don't quick to anger griff
yeah like you're hearing griff stories and you're like like that was the first time i was just watching brand like oh yeah so that's just crazy dude like he's and he's just
such a chill guy he's remarkably chill he's talking about um what what helicopter was it
was a black hawk or is another chinook i think chinook chinook landing on vertical mountain
sides and it's like for they're jumping onto a uh they're using a like a fence to hop on
right like a wooden fence or a concrete fence and they were just leveling it right there and
it's the blade is right next to the fence line or whatever and just like you chinook pilots
those guys like this is the thing everyone looks at a chinook and they're like it's not as cool
as an apache it's like it's faster it's more they're like, it's not as cool as an Apache. It's, like, it's faster.
It's more agile.
Like, you think it's a school bus with two rotors, but that thing.
But they also crash a shitload more, right? He was saying, too, for every man that jumped on, they would have to fuel a dip for the weight.
And so the pilots were so badass, they were accounting for every dude that jumped on it just to keep it stable for every guy to get on.
And, again, the rear rotor is one foot away from like a stone wall dude he's like yeah they're loading up the
second back because he's part of second back they're hopping on like
you're like but just imagine the confidence of like yeah if that hits there probably everybody
in here's dead we're good i know like that's it that's insane man like this
well like uh i mean you see it sometimes in like the navy i don't know if they use the if it's
called the chinook or something else in the navy but like where they put the belly of the the
helicopter in the water and a boat just drives into the back you ever seen that shit that's
rad they drive they drive the road boats just like right into the back oh so like seal teams are like just hopping yeah yeah like the dude in the back is
standing there in ankle deep water just like flagging them in in a chinook that's hovering
yeah dude it's insane yeah and the the crew guys inside the helicopter jump to the side
ribboat just shoots up into it and they go boop off into the distance that's just wild to me is that mindset of like all that and we're here we're lucky enough to do this yeah and then i'm like man
are doing that on the daily and you're just like fuck i just like missiles
i ain't retarded i just like rockets
it's just wild yeah so much respect for anyone's that do that because. I just like rock it. It's just wild.
So much respect for anyone that do that.
Cause I'm just like,
God.
And the shit that they're just like content with.
It's really interesting is have you ever,
well,
I mean,
even,
even all you guys,
the stress that you're used to is like perspective to what job you've done.
And my wife,
I love the woman to death,
but she does not handle like unknown very well.
Yeah, I got you.
I got you.
But like when something's unknown,
she's like wigging out and she's like,
are you stressed at all?
And I was like, I mean, I am.
It's just, this is what I do every day.
So it's just the way it is.
Like, I never know what,
what the fuck is going to happen.
I walk into an office.
They're like,
we need this,
this,
and this done before you go home.
I'm like,
cool.
All right.
That's also why it's cool working with like the chill military influencers
because they have like,
they are used to that.
Cause like a lot of the,
the life that we live is,
you know,
you don't know what you're doing next week.
Yeah.
There's no way you can know.
Like you just have to kind of go with the flow. That's why I think
a lot of you guys are so good at it.
That might be it. Maybe we're broken.
That's what he said, Eli.
That's not what I said.
It's not what I said.
Brandon's like, I didn't say that.
Veterans are broken.
He's like, no!
I'm going to put that on my shirt.
It's just going to be a picture of Brandon
that says, vets are broken.
You guys are good at dealing with the unknown.
All right, CNN.
I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
I did not say that.
I did not say that.
Who's that peckerwood down in town
who blows the glass?
Oh, shit.
Treat him like Jerry. Treat him like Jerry.
Treat him like veterans.
Here, I got something that'll lift your spirits,
because I always try and learn about new missiles when I come down here,
because it's always interesting to see Brandon's eyes get real wide like,
what?
Like when Aegis shot that missile out of space last time.
And so it's fair to assume that Uncle Sam has put nukes on everything.
Literally everything.
Nick talked about the shoulder-fired one.
What's that?
What the fuck is the name of it?
Oh, God.
The Davy Crockett.
The Davy Crockett, yeah.
We've put it in surface-to-air missiles,
like the Nike Hercules, the Nike Spartan, the Nike Zeus,
and, of course, the Sprint missile.
Pause.
Cody, do you know what Davy Crockett is?
I have no idea.
It is, think of Fallout, the shoulder rocket the shoulder man the fat man they we made one of
those in real life in the 60s oh yeah oh okay he did talk about this i watched one of those videos
yeah it's not shoulder fired but like they shot it yeah yeah oh it's a jeep one yeah oh yeah not
shoulder fire but it was like a mount they had to obviously made that like fallout, had to have made that based
off of the M28, M29 system.
Yeah, like it's fucking hefty, but
it's wild that you're on.
It's wild. It's a man-made
nuke launch like that
when you say that statement.
I think the thing about it is that you needed
to fire it from the back of a Jeep because
you're not in the safe distance.
No, no.
So we've done, let me me see we've done that we've done surface to air we've done air to surface we've done bomb drops we've done intercontinental ballistic missiles
long-range ballistic missiles but i just learned and i didn't know which is really surprising because i'm the missile guy from 1967
until 1985 when it was in use we had an air-to-air nuclear rocket which was considered short-range
air-to-air it's called the genie 2 i did hear about you've heard of the genie 2 yeah i want
to say nick mentioned this i don't know where i heard of it's a rocket they strapped to the bottom
of a plane and it's like there's other planes and you fire a nuke at them and just hightail it out
and just i because i think that's why we did the nuclear testing on whether or not like an explosion
would set off another nuke is because uh that was our way of taking out like if there are planes
coming to nuke the country yeah we would send it at them and just kind of nuke the area and take
them out of the air that was the theory with surface to air.
And yeah,
I'd never heard of the genie.
Somebody in my,
in my stream,
I was like hanging out.
They're like,
have you heard of the genie too?
And I was like,
no,
let's see what this is.
You always tell me,
look up all sorts of stuff.
And I was like,
we made an air to air nuclear weapon.
What the fuck?
DARPA man.
Dude,
DARPA,
DARPA be DARPA.
That's what they are.
It's just a room full of engineers.
Skunk works with more cocaine.
Yeah, that's all it is, dude.
Dude, DARPA, we were talking with a Mexican space cowboy,
and he was talking about DARPA.
Tejano space cowboy?
Tejano.
Mexican.
Whatever.
Same thing.
Close enough.
Brown space cowboy he for uh the prosthetics because he has a full prosthetic on his arm he talked about darpa is the first one to implement for uh all the
special forces guys to keep them in combat they're like no you don't have to get out here we'll build
you limbs that make you faster stronger or whatever dude that's insane they're um on fort
sill the the ait guys who are going through 13 Bravo,
which is the cannon crew member.
They're the ones who throw heat, the 90-pound rounds.
They're working.
They have a couple of models.
I don't know if they're fully functioning.
They're out there with exoskeletons that help them fucking lift 95-pound rounds
and heat them all day, which, I mean, don't get me wrong.
There's going to be some vets who are like, that's going to make them weak.
And I'm like, but it could make them faster yeah it's like edge of tomorrow
shit yeah they got it's strange man we are in the future like sorry they are finally caring about
their backs yeah finally dude not service related you know the big rucksack we get like the big one
the large ruck yep oh wait the big green or the
big backpack the big backpack one okay yeah so the ruck that we get i went to go to cif because
when i was going to go to another school i had to draw gear and i was like hey i need a large ruck
and they're like we don't issue those no more because it's bad for people's back i'm like
took you 15 fucking years yeah they don't issue the large ruck anymore because it's too bad on
your back uh the after the alice pack it was oh yeah it was right alice was like still uh metal frame and then
it went to the plastic frame yeah i forget what the frame's called but wait they don't they don't
issue them anymore because they're bad for your back what do you carry now uh they have a medium
ruck which is oh it's money honestly i love the damn thing. It's good for like an AG bag.
It's good for like a radio bag.
It's good for everything, man.
Like Mystery Ranch?
That shit's dope.
Mystery Ranch?
I'm not familiar.
You know Mystery Ranch?
Oh, that shit's like kind of higher end, but it's fucking nice.
Don't like the tri-zip one?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, it's part of theirs.
I'm so pissed right now.
Do you know how much dick the Alice Pack sucked?
Dude.
Cock walking. i can remember bucket
i went to school on port brag dude yeah all i had to carry books in your dad's like i ain't
buying you a backpack i can remember 15 fucking bucks at the surplus this carries more books than
one of those shitty spider-man backpacks dude i can I can remember being in Afghanistan and you put the bag, the
ruck on the ground, you lay in it, buckle
yourself in, and three of your buddies help stand
you up because it's so f***ing heavy.
Like, I can remember that.
Alright, we need to buy some of those new packs
that I really want to just f*** around with them.
The medium rucks? Let me see if I can find a picture of them.
Dude, I've never heard of them.
We got those originally, we got those medium rucks in Afghanistan
and now they're standard issue.
We just had giant ones that you'd have to pack.
Dude.
I bet it's something that's in Tarkov right now, whatever he's going to show us.
100%.
That's it.
Super comfortable.
Medium ruck.
Oh, that looks way better.
Oh, like even how it's designed on the back.
Yeah.
God.
It's partitioned.
And like, dude, it's money, man.
Those are.
And that can carry 35 pounds so your
eib would just feel way more comfortable yeah beating these things i mean they got waste packed
or the like dude they're they're really good we use them those were our ag bags in afghanistan
because they issued them and then when we got back from afghanistan they're like we're taking those
back and then we had the large rucks and now everyone's on the medium ruck so now you just
get an assault pack and the medium ruck you don't get the large ruck anymore but you still have to deal with the military
at the end of the day it's still military you're like sweet look it sucks less but it still sucks
yeah and that part hasn't changed i see my buddies they'll facetime me uh like i talked to
sergeant major the other week and then i've talked to first my friends are first aren't now and like sergeant majors which is wild to have
when i was in everyone was like privates and specialists and now they're first
if you just don't get caught long enough you're fine yeah that's really all it is
and my buddies are like out in korea like shout out to holly he called me on the field in korea
and he is as old as me i was like fuck that dude dude
it's you're you're 39 you're still having to wake up at 5 a.m 6 a.m get the privates out like march
with them and you're out and you're out in the field i have to get up at 5 30 in the morning
to make sure other grown men dress the same as me that's that's what i meant my life ain't bad
that's how i always self-reflect on that i was like
you know what life ain't too shit i straight up told my wife after i uh get out i'm like i will
never watch another sunrise ever again and she's like why not i was like because i've watched it
every day for 15 years it's not here just like i hate that thing just warm up oh, it's not. You're just like, I hate that thing. Just warm up.
Oh, now it's got thermoversion.
It's going to get cold as fuck for like an hour.
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Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. Standing out there like trying to grade a pt test where the ink in my pen is freezing i'm just like
this because like our pt uniform is made out of grocery bag or some bullshit it doesn't stop
anything by the way everyone in the army is like we need new barracks the mold is getting bad and
the army's like new pt is coming 2025 so we We've spent $2 billion.
I love the military
mindset on some of this shit, especially when it comes to
military spending, because it's like, I'm all
for cutting spending where it
makes sense. But it's like, oh yeah,
I want to make your life better. Here's a
20 cent pen.
By the way, later today, you're going
to be firing a $175,000 rocket.
Yep.
You want to...
Did you hear about...
We don't have enough money to fix your knee.
Here's a javelin missile to fire for training.
It's like...
Did you guys hear about Boeing?
Someone audited...
Boeing's been in the news a lot.
Shit.
I am not... they just got yeah exactly
cuts back your heads down um they just somebody audited the u.s government which they always
do and found out that the u.s government paid boeing an eight thousand percent markup on soap
dispensers for aircraft like the little like you push with your hand, 8,000%
increase on the
price, which makes total sense, because that's
kind of like the standard markup for all military
shit. We have
in my system, we have a
computer mouse, like a Logitech computer mouse. It costs
like $7 at Staples. How much
do you pay for it? $748.
That's why I'm excited for
what Elon was talking about, the Department of Government
Efficiency. So Doge.
Doge.
But like little shit like that where it's like
that's weird because American Airlines who
flies God knows how many flights
every day figured soft
soap is fine. Works
just fine. What's the
there's a phrase for that for like they've had it
for like a hundred years the military. It's like the $500 hammer or something like that. Oh, I, there's a phrase for that for like, they've had it for like a hundred years, the military.
It's like the $500 hammer or something like that.
Oh, I don't know the phrase for it, but I've heard that a lot.
Like you spend like a thousand dollars on a hammer and it's because they filter all that supposedly.
It's like the pen.
Whatever we spent, like for NASA, it's like we spent millions of dollars to create a pen that writes in space where we could have just got a pencil.
Or, you know, an iPad nowadays.
Mytism took over on that one.
There's actually a logical reason for that.
I learned this.
Did you know that?
Please tell me a pencil versus.
Yes.
A pencil is made of graphite and lead.
Graphite and lead, as you're writing with it, flakes off.
In a zero-g environment, it's flammable and conductive.
Very, very dangerous.
So that's cool.
What about a highlighter?
We're fucked.
Kill him.
I wasn't even asking questions.
He shitted me.
I was assassinated by Boeing
because I asked about a Sharpie.
I know Elon's going to come up
with something like, you know, a pin
in space travel. He's going to call it the pin 15
or some shit like that.
Of course, of course. I guess
wasn't it Elon who like, he wanted
to name, he had the Series S,
the Series E, and then
the X, but he couldn't do E because I think
Mercedes had the Series E. I think it was Ford?
E-Class probably. E-Class, yeah.
Because, yeah, so.
That's why it's the Series 3 now, so S3X.
So, yeah, because he's a grown man child.
I love it.
S3XY.
Oh, I forgot about the Y.
Yeah, so he's got the model S-E-X-Y.
So sexy.
I got to use the little air defender's room.
I'll be right back.
Dude, I love it we got like dude this is my happiest month right now because it's like all the homies are coming in we got either before or after we're gonna have
clint romache on which medal of honor recipient our homie like we're so fucking i've never met
i know dude that's what i'm so excited we We were catching up today, and he's just so stoked to be on this month.
He's like, fuck, yeah.
And he's just excited to hang out with everyone.
That's awesome.
I'm not.
I always forget how much he hates the government until we hop on a phone.
I'm like, this is a dude that he's allowed to feel however he wants towards things.
Is that sure?
It's like, I'm anti-government but i work for
the government like that whole thing i've you seen the dudes like that are hopping out of
bradley's with that t-shirt yeah yeah like yeah it's our boy right dude something i've always
want to see that like i read in books back in the day is like the only person that a president has
to salute is a medal of honor recipient it's like love to see Clint in the same room with Trump or someone like that.
They have to salute.
Get around with this, man.
He's such a good dude.
He loves manual labor.
He's up in North Dakota, and he does public speaking
and then working with some nonprofits
for ones that make a difference.
So just talking about Clint Rose. I would love to meet that guy i would like i'm sure he
doesn't want to talk about everything that happened i just he seems like a really cool
dude him and marcus latrell yeah oh dude all those guys are you've met marcus right i met
morgan i don't know if i've i don't think i've ever met marcus in person yeah oh well no we did
at the one oh that's right yeah yeah well in charlotte that's
right yeah i was like wait i was like oh fuck yeah he was up there talking uh during that event
and we were just going through everything we went out to some like yeah he was actually he was really
he was a really kind dude he likes to go over speaking time but he was he's but he's just
really motivating like a really like down-to-earth dude he like i've seen some of his speeches and
stuff and he's like very direct forward like motivating type guy like you know what's interesting is and i i don't know
how true it is um secondhand story so um my squad leader uh staff sergeant casey grukowiak um he
passed away in afghanistan but before he passed away we were sitting there in in spin kolache it
was the first time i ever had rounds whiz over top of my head.
It was an American 50 count, believe it or not.
Smartass Taliban got in between us and the vehicles on the road, shot at the vehicles, and then ran away.
And so they were shooting at us on the far side.
How did that happen?
Dude, it sucks.
Dude, the sounds.
That was the first time I ever heard hisses, and I hit the dirt.
And Casey, he was laughing at me.
He's like he's like
long those weren't even fucking near you man yeah they're not i don't care bro um brand's like what
the but i've experienced it in a much less stressful environment but i know what it sounds
like i don't know what it feels like but sergeant g was part so he was ranger qualified he was a
former ranger instructor as part of one
of the ranger bats the dude like i swear he had to pay doctors to be able to deploy with us because
his back looked like a roadmap of la like his spine was dude it was just destroyed but he was
okay dog when he was a young private apparently he was in the ranger bat that went to go find
marcus and all those other guys oh shit and he was the
platoon that actually found uh he was telling me about it was like some waterfall somewhere in
afghanistan there was like a cave they got some afghan dude out of there and they found a bunch
of like seal gear and that's where they actually found uh lieutenant murphy was in there that's
what he told me i don't know how true it is but i was like because he was telling me when he got
back there's a there's a book called a seal seal of honor or um it's it's the one about uh lieutenant murphy not marcus
and uh he's like dude i was going through a bookstore like years later and i saw that
lieutenant looking back at me from the bookshelf and he's like weirded me out man he's like i had
to buy the book and he's i read through it i read it too it's it's okay as a book like it's
it goes over a lot of like with the family experience with, with Murphy's
family before it really talks about what he experienced.
So yeah, I thought that was, that was wild, but yeah, he was, he was killed in Afghanistan
Monday, August 30th, 2010.
Oh shit.
And then they found all his, his.
Like his gear.
And I guess they found his body.
I don't know if they found like the other three
guys in the team's body or just his uh he didn't really elaborate on that but yeah he was part of
the ranger bat that went and found him that's wild because that was like that just a shit yeah just
shit sandwich and that's what happens a lot of the times you either have helicopter go down
or mission and how they push towards objective getting rushed and the guys fighting back or
marcus's case like all that
he went through like on his own and then being taken care of yeah however that story plays out
and you're just like jeez he said that while they were there uh trying to find those guys like
because they had like a patrol base set up and they would go out in different directions and
try and find them like every day and uh that was the only safe place for like chinooks and shit to
get like resupply into them ammo and everything he goes we got so used to like as the sun would go down
the fog would roll in the taliban would hit us he goes we got so used to it we had just pre-plots
we're like pre-plot alpha zero zero one zero zero two zero zero three five four effect and
yeah he's like it got just so common the taliban pushing us when the sun went down the fog rolled
in that's what you do when you read about um like even what uh clint went through and that amazing idea for a ford
operating base like dude in the in the valley in the valley like surrounded by all sides of this
hill so you're just like i ambush site one i just like when i when i read that and when i watched
the movie which i think they did a great job on the movie i don't know how clint feels about it i think you're fire on yourself
like that's that man that's a strictly american mentality like you look at the war in ukraine
and everywhere else like no one is like okay we're being overran let's attack like that is a strictly
american thing like all right we're being overran give me two guys we're gonna go kill everybody
let's do this and clint fucking did that like that's who is it it was a chest chesty puller we're surrounded
they won't get away now yeah and it's still it's like even on uh what's it we are soldiers where
they landed in that it's like what's all the guys like russian broke uh broken arrow like broken
arrow and then they fight back because now now they're like on equal fighting terms.
You're like, y'all are psychopaths.
A good kind of psychopath.
Have you ever studied?
Fire on yourself.
Anyone ever studied Operation Anaconda?
No.
So Operation Anaconda was the first major engagement between U.S. forces and the Taliban in Afghanistan.
This was after, of course, the 12 Strong.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12 Strong.
Also wild.
Yeah.
They figured out that like a bunch of Al-Qaeda and Taliban were in the Shikot River Valley.
And they were.
That leads directly into Pakistan.
So their goal was.
It was like a hammer and anvil tactic.
Is the Afghan army was supposed to cut them off from one direction.
And the Americans were supposed to push into them and just kill everybody.
So they couldn't fucking escape.
They thought there was like 200 Taliban in the the valley turns out there was like a thousand uh and they had like artillery and mortars they had a lot of so the 10th mountain
lands in and just starts getting hit like from all directions the afghans being the afghans
abandoned the mission because they're cowards sorry i'm just gonna call a spade a spade and
the like it's
really weird you see any other military in history experience something like that they're like we
need to evac we need to get the fuck out of here now and the 10th mountain was like we're digging
in and we're gonna kill them they dropped so much ordinance the topography of the shikot river
valley changed like 200 missions a day for 17 days straight that was in one of the documentaries
wasn't it i believe uh i don't know if operation anaconda was in one i don't remember just updating
a topography map yeah well it don't go as high yeah there's also new craters everywhere yeah
you're dropping like 500 pound jdams just one after the other they apparently they were carpet
bombing with b-52s as well like holy shit they were getting ordinance like they were putting in work
that's like the epitome of target rich environment that's what that is like shooting all directions
good just i guess wild so how'd that end up playing it out playing out the eventually they
gained fire superiority and they started bounding up, and the Afghans came back.
And some of the Al-Qaeda abandoned.
They left, but most of the valley was completely wiped the fuck out.
All the caves were closed.
They had nothing left.
They wiped out a shit ton of Taliban.
Bomb the shit out of them.
How much time did you spend in Afghanistan?
I was there 2010 and 2011 so from
june july 2010 to june 2011 i did 11 months okay that's when iraq afghanistan was more popping off
because iraq war has been on the decline and then it was in 2014 i think isis like started 12 to
maybe 14 yeah it was i was part of that big push that president obama wanted to do to do to like
finish the war in Afghanistan.
So there was nowhere for us to stay.
We just showed up and they're like, we're going to put a cop there.
So we're living in a school for a week while the Seabees are putting together a cop for us.
Yeah, we did that a lot.
I lived in an Afghan dude's house for seven months.
Yeah, the video is on YouTube.
You can look up Afghan cribs.
I've made a video called that. It's on YouTube. You can look up Afghan cribs. I've made a video called it.
It's on YouTube. Welcome to my crib.
Right here.
This is where 30 guys sleep.
We all shit here.
This is my sugar daddy, Muhammad.
Dude, I love that in the video, like I'm walking through, like pointing different stuff out. And you see like a Bunsen burner on top of a propane tank.
And literally four inches away is a bandolier of 40 millimeter high explosive grenades.
Just four inches to the right.
And I'm like, this is what it is.
Right here we got on top, kitchen.
Boom, boom, boom.
And the grenade's right behind it.
And it's soldiers and war doing that video.
That was a good time, man. that was home for a while man like we'd be sitting there and because we had no running water no electricity our bathroom was a hole in the ground but like
every three or four months for like an hour and a half we would get electricity like we'd all be
just chilling out playing cards with like you know a bunsen burner or something and all of a sudden
there was a light in the compound that would come on and we'd be like,
and just everyone scrambles to the chargers to like charge your,
your cameras and your laptops and just try and charge everything.
It's like, God, I don't miss it at all. Period.
I'm glad that face over, especially at my age. I'm like,
what I tell it's interesting. Cause I did that.
I did that before I came over to ADA and a lot of my ADA soldiers, they're like like you know what i what i tell it's interesting because i did that i did that before
i came over to ada and a lot of my ada soldiers they're like you know i wish i had those same
experiences as you and i like the way i look at it is i wouldn't trade those experiences for the
world but i also don't wish them on my worst enemy like it was you know experiences may vary
depending on where you are in the world at what time of the you know history but yeah you're
thankful for you can learn from it without
wanting to relive it yeah yeah somebody's like you want to go back to afghanistan nope like it's
it sucks though because like even for you as an iraq war vet um you see like world war ii vets
and vietnam vets and they like take them back and they you know hey we had an op set up there and
they're like pointing shit out and we'll never be able to do that yeah good that'll never happen for one they landed in the
first world country you there's a starbucks on the corner of normandy now like dude i will say
what is wild there's that i forget the guy's name he goes around and eats food he has like
the iron stomach he goes to like even India. He eats everything that is
offered to him on the street foods. He will
eat it. Really cool YouTube channel.
But he's like he gets deathly ill sometimes.
He voted Iraq
and then watching his Iraq
video because he went as of like a year
ago to visit Iraq and
interact with the people
and eat the food.
And he put them as like some of the kindest people he's ever met.
And then you see them like offering the shirt off the back.
Cause you did have Iraqis that would take care of you.
And you showed up to their property.
They like offer you tea and everything.
And you're on edge.
Cause you're like,
I don't know if he's playing what side he's playing,
like blah,
blah,
blah.
But is he luring the end versus,
is he being nice?
Yeah.
And the dude,
some of those dudes that were like the kindest people, you be like they're like no neighborhood is good mister mister it's
all good and you look look outside and there's like 18 craters like we have a definition uh
different definition of good but i'm gonna listen to you like they offer you chai out like the ones
that did drink the story that griff told the other day where he's just like the guy he was in with that ran the bed and breakfast, the coffee shop or whatever.
He's like, sir, you might want to stay for your coffee for an extra hour or so.
And then he heard an IED go off right outside.
Yeah.
He's like, oh, you're good.
Yeah.
And I was like, you're good, Mr. Griff.
And that's the thing.
We're going back there.
It's watching that dude go back there.
He's like, man, these people are amazing.
I'm going to eat the food.
Versus when we were there, it's just like, ah, the fear of walking on that street.
If you just dropped me off, I was like, instant spike on.
Every pile of trash makes you have a heart attack.
You sound like a former Detroit police officer talking about going back for the pizza.
You know what's funny? My brother is a cop in detroit this is very familiar he's only had to get administrative leave once when he fired his
weapon oh really that's yeah i don't even know the circumstances of what exactly happened but
he like called my mom was like yeah i got into a shootout they got me on administrative
leave for a couple of days until they figure out what the hell's going on i guess i guess every
time an officer shoots in that department like ia has to i don't know maybe you would know like
similar to every police force do they have to investigate it depends on the department agency
and everything man like sometimes you have a civilian oversight board that can decide whether
your shooting is good or not which is weird
because they've never been cops before but so people have no experience get to decide if you
did the right thing yeah yeah exactly exactly that's dope that's another reason chicago's
gone down hills because they have a civilian oversight board that's insane that's why cops
in chicago just like they just fucking stay out of it now they stop policing because they stop
policing dude it's like i They stop policing, dude.
It's like, ugh.
I mean, Cody has a good, I mean, you're going to know that best, but the idea of somebody telling you your job, it's no different than the rules of engagement overseas.
When it's like, I've had weapons pointed at me and you're like, oh, they're not shooting, so I'm fine.
And I had to program that in my mind.
They're allowed to do this.
That's hostile intent, not hostile acts. Yeah. yeah and tell they shoot i cannot react or anything i love that they
made that such a big point of like black hawk down where it's like where they talked about how
bullshit the rules of it wasn't an action movie they made the the point to say how both the rules
of engagement were and like oh well the clinton administration and their infinite wisdom has
decided not to give us you know air support not to give us anything for this mission so good luck
boys yeah and then it's like oh they're shooting at us no it's still a whiz okay now they're
shooting at us because that sounded for there was a giant 800 skinnies with ak's coming at us in the
middle of the street not great this or not but they're not because they weren't getting fired at you
cannot fire back i've been in many situations and you're just like ah i still get emotional
i still get emotional when i see randall and uh or randall and sugar uh was it sugar uh gordon
and or no randall sugar and the delta boy yeah the delta guys and that that whole like last
stand they had like, fuck man,
two landing and be like,
they're like,
you know,
this means there's no support coming.
It's like,
yep,
we're good.
And then they're still like,
nope,
drop us off.
I'm like,
are you,
we need you to confirm over radio that you understand what you're placing
yourself into.
We understand both of them,
but I will say their KDR is pretty.
Yeah.
They ran out of ammo before they went fucking down so like their kill death ratio is and they did say yeah that's what's crazy they saved one individual
from that they ended up yeah they ended up finding was that michael durant was the name of the pilot
they ended up finding him he had a broken back and some other got him set up mp5 if that's how
that played out and then or that's how and michael uh talks about
it's like mp5 and protect ran out and then they just took him hostage one one of my friends
growing up his dad was one of the pilots during that operation that's that's man he had some
fucking stories yeah dude wow like that mini bird would just what i think it was like 2 000 or 10 000
dead oh we lost 20 that we lost 20 or 22 soldiers
american soldiers let's consult the nightmare but i mean that's also like consultant 18 or 22
but that's also like 75th 75th is like used to just like you put them you hand them a shit
sandwich and they're gonna make it into a three-course meal like 75th just that's what
they're built for like point new hawk is a perfect example of this surgical hammers with your car as we said it's like surgical hammers
so battle of mogadishu uh 1993 american casualties and losses 18 killed, 700 wounded per Red Cross, 315 killed, including 133 SNA troops, 812 wounded per SNA.
Other estimates, 300 to 700 killed.
That's a pretty good kill-death ratio.
I'm telling you.
75th is there to put in work.
They're not there to fucking play.
When I came to Fort Carson, I can't remember the guy's name if you guys remember his name please let me know
it wasn't actually featured in the movie uh he went he came down to fort carson like spoke to
a bunch of us in like an auditorium um apparently he was in mogadishu and got separated from his
unit and like ran out of ammo and was like going building to building trying to get back to his guys and apparently off like five or seven dudes with an e-tool like oh fuck yeah i don't know who
this guy was but it wasn't in the movie and this guy was like yeah that's that's just what happened
he's like i ran black on ammo pulled out the e-tool and i just started chopping my way back
to my fucking guys chopped my way back dude that's such a cool thing to say that's just such a crazy thing to say
off the cuff
just the action to be like
black on ammo
we're putting
we're putting a handle park
and the E-Tool unfolds like this
so he's just like got it
and the next guy's like hello
just cracking with the E-Tool
I love that mindset of like obviously next step
that's i i i don't know like i've never gotten formal like e-tool weapons training but does
the 75th get e-tool weapons training like i've like i'm fucked with bayonets and basic training
and but like no one's ever been like all right you're gonna thwap this right in their coconut
and kick him in the nuts like i i have no idea like that's when your caveman brain kicks in
you're like big object what makes the grass grow blood blood blood girls are and you have to do
those dumb stuff great great great great great great great great great grandfather knew how to do this so uh it's in the dna dude that's like what was my biggest fear is like getting lost from your element being by yourself
at that time that would terrify the fuck out of me like i can't imagine that i imagine you're just
like oh anyone around me wants to kill me now like Like, you have no idea, and you had to make it back to your unit
in the midst of gunfire and war, and you have an E-tool.
That's terrifying, but it's also probably the exact amount of adrenaline
you need to cleave five people with an E-tool.
Yeah.
That's not even understanding your own strength.
I guarantee that first thing, he's like,
and swing full force, like the head's like chopping.
Just took a chunk of the skull off.
Also, they're like 95 pounds.
Yeah, that's fair.
Four died by heart attacks.
Can you imagine like you go to your house
and there's just like hacked up dead bodies
and there's some just blood covered American
with a shovel just like,
all right, I'm a leaf.
Open the door, close the door.
Yep.
See you later.
This is your house now?
You walk in and then walk out
and say, God, I didn't drop anything.
Were none of those open?
No.
These two weren't.
Nice.
And the two, they're empty.
Party foul averted.
Oh, Brandon, you ran into an issue today.
Which part?
Do you want to talk about that which part
your shop flooding oh god yeah oh yeah i wasn't going to talk about it but i can like it's you
know really minor issue considering what we talked about today on the podcast fuck me
but yeah no the uh the shop got flooded i mean it's awesome not in minor our uh yeah we came
back over the weekend like our ac had a bunch of issues
and uh we just came into floor soup as it melted the all the ceiling tiles and it just spilled out
all over the goddamn floor so i've been dealing with that is it was it just like one leak or do
you even know or was it like the whole roof is fucked i think it's the rocker switch or whatever
is like the shutoff switch for the drip pan that turns off the ac unit okay if it's flooding but the guns are okay right the guns are
okay don't give me a yeah yes the guns are the guns are fine i would like to see the babies
yeah everything's good but yeah no we uh we had floor soup when we walked in
and uh yeah so we had a tech come out and unfortunately i hope he's okay it seems like
he's okay uh he fell off the ladder i'm sorry wait but are the guns okay the guns and the tech
are okay yeah he apparently had the guns he had to get taken away by ems like it was bad like he
fell fell how far did he fall that's like i don fall? He wasn't on the roof or anything. He was just up in the ceiling.
So thank fuck he didn't fall on asphalt or anything.
What? Did it slip?
Don't know. I just get that phone call.
I'm like,
I have like eight things going wrong
in one particular day.
And then I just get that call. I'm like, great.
He was like a licensed you know guy right who has
insurance luckily i don't own his ac company and i don't own the building i rent so i'm good
all right yeah that's right i need you to sign this sir it just says i don't own this
but i'm like it's still like, it sucks, but it's like, ah, well, God dang.
She'd have them on the next episode.
The joys of people are like, oh, well, wow.
You look so much older than, than how, uh, how old you really are.
I'm like, yeah.
The joys of business ownership.
Fucking stress.
Fucking awesome.
Thank you for that.
Why you look so much older than your age.
I don't know how to take that.
I don't appreciate it though. I don't know how to take that. I don't appreciate it, though.
I just got my first gray pube, so we're there.
Years ago for me.
Picking them out of the beard.
Oh, fuck.
Old gray bush over here.
Old gray bush.
Gandalf the gay.
Gandalf the gay.
My gray bush.
I was kind of hoping that bald this would work its way down but
my white pubes that's called dht brothers sorry you're stuck with that for life oh damn
how wise are you oh you kill a balrog now you have white pubes yeah only my pubes turned white
well that won't be a problem with manscaped that Chase just put in right now
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underhand
we're just starting using shouting out code
I've tried underhanding so many ads
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Dude you guys you gotta hang out with Posty
Do you want to talk about that?
We don't have to
Oh you guys got to hang out
Dude he would have been the coolest guest to have on this podcast
Not the other thing
No that's why it's just the Posty night.
You guys got to hang out with Mr. Posty.
How does that happen?
He just hit you up one day, I think, on Instagram?
Yeah.
Yeah, Posty hit me up.
And he's like, hey, dude, been watching you and Brandon's content for a while.
You guys want to come hang out in Austin?
Am I going to say no to that?
We would just randomly start talking to him at like three o'clock in the morning.
You'd hit me up.
You're like, hey, dude, Posty wants to FaceTime.
Like, I'm up.
Dude, that's so cool.
Like, this is the thing.
I'm not a huge fan of rap music in general.
You know, to each their own.
But like, I see the way he interacts with like fans and everybody else.
And he seems like just a genuine human.
Dude, he is a
sweetheart the guy the the famous person that doesn't realize is he's famous that's awesome
best way to describe he's like i'm famous what thank you i think he's he realizes that he just
doesn't care no he's just so thankful for just on stage that's like the watching that show and then
how he presents himself to his audience, how much he truly cares.
It's fucking mind blowing.
Like that for the live show that motivated me for our own chicks.
I'm like,
that is a performer. And that is,
that's the level that we should be at.
That is how you thank your audience.
That's how you present yourself to your audience is so awesome.
In between every single song,
he would stop and be like,
I love you guys so much.
I love everyone that's here, and I appreciate everything you guys are doing for me.
Like, between every single song.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so fucking much.
Like, that was everything.
And it wasn't just like, thank you guys, appreciate it.
It was like, you could tell, like, he was like, a couple times he's almost like choking up talking about it.
It's like, he's just hearing this crowd response.
He's like, thank you so fucking much.
That's awesome.
And he's also a big gun guy. So, I mean, that's right up y'all's alley. He is an autistic gun guy. It's like, he's just hearing this crowd response. He's like, thank you so much. Awesome. And he's also a big gun guy.
So,
I mean,
that's right.
If y'all's out,
he is an autistic gun guy.
Really?
Yeah,
dude,
he is a gun guy.
Like study level.
Like,
yeah,
he was naming calibers.
I'd never heard of.
That's awesome.
Fucking serious.
That happened.
I,
I peace out that conversation.
Cause he's talking to Brandon and I'm like,
I,
I have no idea what he's talking about.
And Brandon was trying to keep up with him like he's hammered wait can I tell
him about very helpful but no help straight up like it like the guy one of
the first conversations we had he's like oh yeah oh you like gun here you go and
he shows me the picture of his pop like what the I'm like oh you're you're in
this to win this like you're actually a gun guy
but no he's just super rad super chill yeah everything you think you know on that degree
like yeah dude that guy like he you know what's funny is uh i think i was like two podcasts ago
i think he was you asking like who would you like to see on this podcast i think he was just asking
the cameras and i was like man post malone like that dude would be fucking awesome like he just he seems
like he just wants to hang out like drink and just be chill with people definitely yeah
we we hung out until like i think seven in the morning yeah we got back to the hotel yeah
it was a good time man it was it was it was super chill environment. Like we went to the VIP thing. There was like 30 people there.
And, uh, the security came around a couple of like two in the morning,
three in the morning. They're like, Hey everyone, you got to leave now.
You got to leave now. Post is like, no, Brandon and Cody are staying.
And so we sat around with like maybe eight or nine people in a circle where
they're us and the girls, his close friends, stuff like that. Yeah.
And, and they like, they threw on the dj there was from
like country music rock and posted just singing all the like all this early 90s country music
we got to hear his voice sing that country music we're like this is another show this is awesome
we were just all like it was like an invisible campfire dude we were just geeking out the whole
time yeah yeah oh yeah you were there too you got groped by the whole time. That was no DJ. That was Posty playing that from a cell phone on a Bluetooth speaker.
We were just boys
hanging out.
Yeah.
Oh yeah,
you were there too.
You got groped by him.
Yeah,
he f***ed me
and I wanted it.
I'm so jealous.
Why don't we get that?
More of Post Malone
and f***ing grown men
and less of Harvey Weinstein.
Bring what we want.
Fuck it. You hear me post less diddy parties more posty parties
that's what you mean
it was rad man
I'm so jealous but I'm so happy for you guys at the same time
that's awesome
it's just good to actually know like behind the scenes he's the same fucking guy
that's for sure
100%
I will say I love that musicians that are fucking guy that's dude that's for sure 100 i did dude i will say i
love that musicians that are talented at that level because that's what war snob does the same
thing they just sing and it's beautiful to hear you're like i'm getting a private show with these
these pipes right here and it is absolutely just astounding you're just like wow okay well
they're singing it was just surreal because it really did feel like just hanging out with the boys because i mean it was like three o'clock in
the morning we're all just hammered singing 90s country music around an invisible bonfire it's
like one of my favorite memories now that's pretty cool i think the closest i ever got to that is i
repaired tech nine's van years ago i was like 17 years old he came to denver and my buddy ray uh i don't really talk to ray no more
but anyways ray was opening for tech nine and he called me my dad was like a junk dealer i mean he
has just a whole bunch of shit in our like huge acre lot and he was like hey man you got a mirror
and i was like yeah what kind of mirror he's like one like this like takes a picture of a van that
was like side swiped and the mirror was ripped off like one of those truck mirrors i was like
yeah let's do it no problem dude and he's like all right i'm coming to get you we went there look i'll be
honest with you i had no idea what tech night looked like i was like there was like black dudes
everywhere i was like which one's dead like i'm sorry man i didn't know like i'd listened to him
before but i had no idea who the fuck he was this dude what are you insinuating yeah i'm sorry man
i just jammed out to the music, bro. This dude came in.
He was like six foot a thousand, like 700 pounds, enormous black dude.
And apparently the backstage pass was like a sticker and gave me like the sticker and
I repaired the van.
And then he turned around and in his back was tech nine.
Tech is not very tall.
He's not a big dude.
He was like, I mean, I want to say he's like five, seven, five, nine.
Like he's not a very big dude, but he's super thankful. Super nice. He's like, you drink free everything you want all night. I was like i mean i want to say he's like five seven five nine like he's not a very big dude but he's super thankful super nice he's like you drink free everything you want all night
i was like 17 i was like fucking cool let's do it dude that's right like that was awesome bro
uh but yeah that was the closest i've ever gotten anything like that i never i'm so jealous of you
guys but at the same time i'm excited because the closest other than that i've got two of my own
personal concert was a homeless person screaming at the top of their lungs at like a street sign
Well, I was waiting on a train sounds like Austin. Yeah, we had to experience that a little bit. Oh, yeah, God
It was it was dude. That was funny. We walk backstage and your girls like Rogan's behind us. Oh, yeah
Yeah, cuz I was like we were looking at him from far away we're like
It might be Joe like the the physique and everything like that yeah it kind of looks like joe rogan but like the last
thing we want to do is like go to a vip and just start bugging people like hey man picture yeah
but i'm sure literally our first interaction is i asked for a picture with you well i fucking like
you know we're in the same industry like i i like you now i love you
now thank you but no i like legitimately it was just kind of weird because it's like as soon as
i heard the voice i'm like oh that's joe rogan what do how do i act on this i don't know what
to do with my hands when he first saw us he's talking to everyone up there and he sees did you when he's no he saw us
and he goes
no i didn't see that wait oh what poster just did that oh i thought you're talking about joe rogan
he does this yeah okay that i do like no i don't remember when joe rogan acted like a
no no that was it was kind of funny because i didn't know if we were you know impeding on No, I don't remember when Joe Rogan acted like a f***ing... No.
No, it was kind of f***ing funny because I didn't know if we were impeding on anything.
Yeah, because we were trying to stay in our own little corner with everyone.
There was a bunch of people out there.
We were just like, we'll stay to ourselves and not run over and try to get a picture or anything.
That's a wonderful time to be alive, though, that YouTubers are rubbing elbows with musicians.
I mean, Joe Rogan, he's also... I mean's a podcaster i don't but he started out as tv i don't know where you would put ufc and he's a
jack of all yeah he's all over the place like like each thing he does is just this touching gold and
being at that spot of number one where you're like joe we're coming for you that's the goal
at least here if we get two or the top five
we get put on seven the top five i'm happy which by the way please rate us highly on spotify on
apple apple podcasts that really helps us a lot literally just reviews and uh five stars
if not eli and brandon and cody have all told me i cannot come back yeah that's true sorry if you true. Sorry, if you want more misceltism, you got to fucking read his eye.
If you want Northrop Grumman to assassinate us,
you're not going to have him.
Well, I mean, for context, though, Posty is like 29.
Is he?
Yeah.
He said it on stage.
He said he recently had a birthday.
Or was it his birthday?
Or something like that.
I think he was just saying his age.
I don't know.
Because the one time he was like, so I'm 29 today.
And everybody thought it was his birthday.
So I started singing.
He's like, I didn't turn 29 today.
As of today.
Bad verbiage.
Okay, here it is.
Dude, I just love people.
My thing is he grew up around YouTubers.
He grew up in our, I mean, I'm fucking 28.
So it's.
Okay, no, you're older than me.
I was going to say, I'm not the oldest person here, right?
No, that's me.
How old are you?
I'm 37. Okay, yeah. I was going to say, I'm not the oldest person here, right? No, that's me. How old are you? I'm 37.
Okay, yeah.
I'm actually second youngest.
I'm 34.
Yeah, dude.
It's a new wave too.
I mean, you're looking at people.
When YouTube started up until like 2016, 17, everyone was watching YouTube videos on mobile.
That was 95% of content of YouTube was consumed on mobiles.
And now we're in this direction where it's like,
like pre COVID 50 50.
Yeah.
It's now like you have TV for long form.
People are like pulling it up.
I watch now like Papa meat or what?
A lot of those things on TV when we're eating now.
I'm like,
exactly.
That's your back.
That's your background music.
When you're just like cleaning or like cooking food or something,
you listen to her friends on the fucking TV.
And we never do.
Think about that.
We went from computers.
You'd only watch it on a computer.
Crazy idea to watch it on a phone.
Then it went strictly mobile.
And then you started targeting mobile.
And then, guys, remember this crazy time?
Vertical.
You were called a retard if you filmed vertical.
Yeah.
For a long time, it's like, you idiot.
You piece of shit.
Why would you film
vertical and then that took off because of tiktok um i was like i don't want to talk about my
vertical videos and now you're horizontal now i'm horizontal yes yes and now we're like then now it's
it's we're consumed on tv which is a wild thing people like put on you you the podcast for two
hours and they're just like it's the new tv
like because you get to actually choose what you like and it's aging up like our parents are now
watching youtube tv yeah well i mean the other thing is it was also really strange to me because
like you know i started out with tiktok and you know instagram reels and all sorts and then i got
into youtube and i was still doing the vertical and this beautiful human over here i was i was
like a 90 solution and then
he's like have you tried this and i was like fuck let's do that and now it works so now we got the
horizontal and i remember after i posted the first video i was so nervous to post that first video i
didn't want to tell you i didn't want to tell anybody i was so like i was like it's longer
than i normally make i hope it's funny enough like i hope they enjoy the characters like i was and it wasn't and you failed immediately you know the vj hurt right yeah of course and it
fucking crushed and then i remember somebody like tagged me on twitter they had it on their like 65
inch tv and it was one of my characters and i was like dude that felt so good like that was such a
cool feeling i was just like god that's awesome that i get to make people
that happy well speaking of which can we talk about it now yeah where can people now find you
oh are we talking about that should i say it i'm just obviously we're not gonna ask a second
question uh i have an exclusive series along with all of my other long form videos coming
to pepperbox and probably by the time this airs,
it'll be there.
Won't it?
Yeah.
Already on pepper box.
We got you in the long form.
Yeah.
You're tackling.
I love that.
Once it's always,
it's safe for Nick's.
It's like long form.
Once you taste the long form and then you're like,
well,
fuck the short.
Yeah,
it is like instantly.
You're just like,
boom,
boom,
boom,
boom.
I started like,
and I got a little bit
faster at it and like that's i mean ultimately it's it's it's time like that's that's what i
mean even with you guys it's time because like you all have editors and stuff like that and i
was like i'm one of those i have such a tism i want to do it myself before i tell anybody else
and i think that eli appreciates that and i like i started figuring it out and i started getting
faster at it and i'm like okay now I can coach someone else how to do this.
Once it starts doing well for me, it's free up more of my time.
So that way I can do something else and create more.
And like, but right now the army, Jesus, Uncle Sam sucks.
My asshole is all callous.
It's all just fucking.
It's like my knuckle.
It's just my knuckle.
Fuck.
It's like elbow skin down there.
If I were to like
skydive naked, I would whistle.
Okay, let me pretend I'm like
dude.
There's a new shirt
to do butthole callus.
It's a metal.
Yeah, just that.
I don't feel anything back there and that's what's
oh man what is it the green weenie rarely comes lube oh dude it never comes lubed i just i'll
be sitting there minding my own business doing like answering emails and here comes uncle sam
with that schlonger just bouncing around the corner like damn it damn it. I've never met somebody who's like, It's like Slenderman.
It's just a big uncle,
cryptid Uncle Sam.
Cryptid Uncle Sam in the woods in his pinstripe red and white suit.
Just General Millie.
Just peeking out from trees.
Just a silhouette of
roll sleeves and a top hat with a baseball bat
hanging between his legs
we're gonna have to get Nick cryptid to fight
Uncle Sam cryptid dude
let him retire
did you hear about Nick's cryptid?
no
go on Cuddy
imagine Nick going through the woods with just a wife beater on Nick's cryptid? No. Oh, God. Go on, Cuddy. Oh, no. So, imagine
Nick going through the woods
with just a wife beater on and nothing,
like, no pants, no underwear, anything.
Full Winnie the Pooh. Yeah.
Just chasing you through the woods. Just shirt cocking it off.
I just like Winnie pooing it.
Oh, my God.
I love, like, when women do that, it's like a flag
over a conquered castle wearing your shirt.
When men do it, it's like a flag over a conquered castle. When men do it, it's like,
you're just a gay wizard.
I love the two images side by side. It's like cartoon drawings.
It's like, gay wizard.
Conquered castle. Both inappropriate.
You're like, holy shit.
Well, brother, we're going to go to the after show if you're down everyone
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