Unsubscribe Podcast - 194 - I Am The Captain Now ft. DEVGRU Seal Terry Houin & Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 194
Episode Date: January 6, 2025Retired Navy Seal Terry Houin joins Eli, @the_fat_electrician & @habitual_linecrosser to share some crazy military stories! VEGAS LIVE SHOW TICKETS: https://thegundies.com/product/the-2025-gun...die-awards/ Watch this episode ad-free and uncensored on Pepperbox! https://www.pepperbox.tv/ WATCH THE AFTERSHOW & BTS ON PATREON! https://www.patreon.com/UnsubscribePodcast ------------------------------ THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS! PDS DEBT Get a free debt analysis right now at https://PDSDebt.com/unsub ------------------------------ UNSUB MERCH: https://www.bunkerbranding.com/pages/unsubscribe-podcast BUY US A DRINK! https://paypal.me/UnsubscribePodcast FREE TO USE MEDIA (Please tag Unsubscribe Podcast) https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uppmQHMGf8uI2OuOatp932e3S2VGy0PE?usp=sharing ------------------------------ FOLLOW THE HOSTS: Eli_Doubletap https://www.instagram.com/eli_doubletap/ https://www.twitch.tv/Eli_Doubletap https://x.com/Eli_Doubletap https://www.youtube.com/c/EliDoubletap Brandon Herrera https://www.youtube.com/@BrandonHerrera https://x.com/TheAKGuy https://www.instagram.com/realbrandonherrera Donut Operator https://www.youtube.com/@DonutOperator https://x.com/DonutOperator https://www.instagram.com/donutoperator The Fat Electrician https://www.youtube.com/@the_fat_electrician https://thefatelectrician.com/ https://www.instagram.com/the_fat_electrician https://www.tiktok.com/@the_fat_electrician ------------------------------ unsubscribe pod podcast episode ep unsub funny comedy military army comedian texas podcasts #podcast #comedy #funnypodcast Chapters 00:00:00 - VEGAS LIVE SHOW! 00:02:11 - Podcast Episode Kickoff 00:04:50 - Joining the Navy: Initial Thoughts 00:07:41 - Transitioning to Navy SEAL Training 00:13:59 - Differences in Training Standards 00:15:40 - Comparison of Training Generations 00:21:30 - Personal Stories of Resilience 00:24:11 - Mental Toughness in Military Training 00:28:38 - Humor in Military Experiences 00:30:45 - Joining SEAL Team 4 00:32:54 - Transitioning to Development Group 00:36:21 - Challenges of Deployment 00:39:11 - Understanding Military Culture 00:43:00 - Advancements in Weaponry 00:45:04 - Free Fall Experience 00:47:02 - Advancements in Weapon Systems 00:49:15 - Testing New Weapon Systems 00:56:10 - Hostage Rescue Missions 01:00:05 - Skydiving Experience Overview 01:01:42 - Nighttime Water Jump Challenges 01:06:10 - Negotiating with Pirates 01:10:12 - Rescue Operation Details 01:12:02 - Training for High-Stakes Situations 01:14:10 - Reflections on the Mission 01:16:02 - Psychological Insights from War 01:20:41 - The Bat Bomb: A WWII Experiment 01:24:59 - Operation Pigeon: Weaponizing Birds 01:28:40 - Nuclear Landmines and Chickens 01:31:11 - Davy Crockett Nuclear Weapon 01:33:24 - Cold War Air Defense Missiles 01:38:24 - Nuclear Manhole Cover Incident 01:44:00 - UFO Sightings Near Nuclear Sites 01:45:47 - Hypersonic Glide Vehicles Explained 01:47:20 - Guam's Air Defense Systems 01:49:15 - Aegis Air Defense System Overview 01:51:10 - Missile Defense Successes 01:54:10 - Ender's Game and Military Ethics 01:56:50 - Guam's Capture Story 02:00:11 - Guam's Unexpected Leadership 02:02:19 - Military Commanders Arrive Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I'm driving the boat, sir. Hold on.
You are the captain now.
The wind was 45 miles per hour in a tsunami.
Uphill both ways.
How do your balls fit in your pants, sir?
I'm f***ing out. I want nothing to do with this.
We f***ed up.
Hey guys, before this amazing episode starts, we have one quick update.
One quick one.
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So thank you so much.
Now back to an awesome episode.
We're going to figure out why Eli always has me on podcasts
with fucking pipe hitters.
Retired.
I don't let it because I love it.
I'm like, holy shit, we have dope ass stories.
Some pipe layers, maybe.
And especially after yesterday.
Oh, fuck.
We'll start it off right.
Ready?
Everyone get that.
Put it by the mic.
Three, two, one.
Sounds like freedom.
White Claw.
Oh, my God.
Not your thing?
I just turned into... Did my Uggs pop in real quick?
What flavor you got there?
Tangerine?
Some pumpkin spice something?
It's like you're drinking TV static
while someone yells about a tangerine.
That's what it tastes like.
Hide the bourbon
behind this white girl shit oh nick sure did it fuck cody's not here i know hi everyone welcome
to the unsubscribed podcast i'm joined here today by my co-host mr eli double tap our new friend
terry and ethan mr habitual wine crosser and i am nick obviously the fat electrician you look And Ethan, Mr. Habitual Winecrosser. And I am Nick, obviously. The Fat Electrician.
You look gorgeous.
We're on podcast number two for Range Day.
We're just bath-fogging these bitches.
It's fine.
We left a bar of 300 people.
We tried to, literally, we did one round to the bathroom and left.
And it took...
In that time, I managed to drink a beer.
So I didn't even get to the bathroom.
I was like, I'm not making it.
Yeah, just send it.
Yeah. You guys did the right thing. I was like, I'm not making it. Yeah, just send it. Yeah.
You guys did the right thing.
I just like, we're going to stay here and drink.
So I can stay here and drink bourbon or I can go hang out with a whole bunch of 300
people in a fucking room.
No.
That's your nightmare.
I'll do this.
Terry.
Dude, everyone knows the bitch.
Everyone knows.
Everyone knows me.
This is Terry.
Yes.
Nobody knows me, which is nice everyone knows me this is terry yes nobody knows me which is nice oh this is that well that's that dude you ever again as he was saying it's because why are you
putting on like tyler yourself it's all these like the the first and like like tier one individuals
and you guys are so fucking humble about it which is my favorite part but then
also some of the funnest humans i've ever met we don't really give a fuck anymore so it's it's fun
to hang out oh i'm so stoked for this this is like my rule in life is like i've got limited
numbers of fucks so i spend them wisely tell what what you were yeah so background uh grew up in indiana spent where uh up by south
bend a little town called plymouth so i grew up swimming that's what led me to the navy
vice the army or anything else i thought i could be like a scuba diver something cool
and then they tricked me into signing up for this jumping out of airplanes and blowing shit up and
no idea what buds or anything was what year is
this this is so i signed up in 91 and joined in january 92 yeah so like pre pre-alga war i was
seven and i don't know if it wasn't a fucking thing yet www and all that stuff yeah they didn't
exist yet you know 91 i was one i was negative three i was seven yes no i just like that sorry i got kevin kevin's
my peer group no but i mean so what was it like uh because i mean everybody always forgets because
like everybody knows navy seals and tier one and military is so much popular now but like when you
were a kid and you were like gonna join the military nobody knew what the fucking navy seal
was or what an army ranger was any of that so like how did you get to the point where you're like yeah
i'll do that did you even know what you were signing up no because i went in i was telling
i think mitch last night i was like i went in to learn how scuba dive i grew up swimming i wanted
to be in the water i was thankfully mature enough to know that college was not in my near future to be worthwhile.
So I'm like, hey, stay here and do nothing and hang out with the high school girls or join the Navy.
So I went in and talked to him, and he's like, oh, what do you like to do?
Hunting, fishing, shoot guns and stuff.
And he's like, oh, there's a poster.
Like, look at that thing.
He's like skydiving.
I'm like, I've never been skydiving.
I'm fucking 18 or whatever it was.
What about blowing shit? I'm like like sign me up what is it so he's like oh seals here's the thing sign a contract no clue what buds he didn't tell me anything about it he was in the brochure like
get a little pamphlet like 64 weeks or whatever it was no idea like attrition rate or getting
your ass beat which is good because growing up in that farming community, I knew how to work hard.
So when I got to California, it was like, hey, just go do this.
Go do this.
And by the time I realized how much it sucked, like halfway through my.
Oh, OK, cool.
Let's do this.
Farm kids.
Yeah, we're strong and dumb.
Yeah.
Look at this vacation.
You're sending me on.
Yeah.
I'm going to be scuba diving. Yeah. It's're sending me on. I'm living on the beach.
It's in California, by the way.
Living on the beach is awesome.
I was born in California and I moved out to Iowa when I was like 11, 12.
Why'd you do that?
That's like a reverse of being cool.
No, it's way better.
Iowa's so much better than California.
But like the thing, you move out to the Midwest
coming from California and you run into these
farm kids that just go out there and wrestle it's like you guys aren't geared like everybody else
in this fucking country jesus christ those farm boys are 12 year old kids that are tougher than
most of the men in california it's insane like slinging hay bales and picking rocks out of the
field and i did like two weeks moving square bales. Fuck that. They're built different. No. Sergeant Shooty.
The only dude in ground cabadas, whatever they call it.
I did BJJ up to that time.
So those were a few kids when they put me in whatever level one was.
I tapped out on the instructor.
And the instructor was like, what the fuck?
I was like, dog, I've been fighting since I was 10 years old.
Shooty was the only motherfucker I watched an instructor go to pull an arm guard, and
Shooty goes...
280 pounds of just...
Don't.
Nothing but muscle.
And all he did was live on a farm in his entire life.
Yeah.
You're like, Jesus fucking Christ, dude.
So, like, halfway through through you realized it sucked at which point did you realize like because i'm assuming you got shipped off to
basic and you didn't even realize that you were doing something that was like elite or above
average hardness oh no it's yeah you're just like when i so i went in join in january 92 for boot
camp and go to boot camp it's like one or two other guys are in a dye fair program or their EOD
program,
whatever it is.
So we're gonna go do our workouts with the,
the little seals that are on base.
You'll run and do pushups and that kind of stuff.
But it's kind of a little break from your bootcamp stuff.
Yeah.
But you still don't really know what you're signed up for.
Go to a school,
same kind of thing.
Work out with a couple of guys that are in the program. Then you show to california you're like oh fuck what's this this is cool and then
by the time the water starts getting really cold and the sand starts really rubbing your vagina
quite a bit you're like fuck but then you're like halfway through and you already made friends at
this point so you don't want to quit and let your friends down and it's kind of fun it's really
it's hard but it's easy and the fact that oh you're
yeah okay it turns it up just when you're worried for your whole mouth on it yeah
anyway but it's or what we call it it's it's yeah it's like simple but not easy because it's like
every single day like hey we're gonna do this today you're gonna run four miles we're gonna
feed you at this time like you didn't have to think until you got through hell week which at the end of the day is kind of fun when
it sucks really bad and you get afterwards you're like oh it's kind of cool yeah then you start
learning stuff like okay we got got you to the point where we know you're not gonna give up when
things get hard now you start teaching you like teach how to scuba dive teach how to you know the
rebreather the draggers and
then teach how to shoot guns like yeah it just starts to get fun at that point so is there any
like was there a particular moment where you're like maybe the recruiter fucked me up he didn't
really give me all the information i should have lied oh yeah when you show first show up there and
you walk in you check in like seaman fucking who you're checking in for buds and you look out in a grinder
because you checked in at the quarterback back then and you see this dude just getting fucking
worked and like what who are these guys and like that's the class in front of you and you see the
helmets lined up like what happened to those guys like they quit like what happens then like
you don't want to know like oh fuck yeah okay i guess i'm not quitting because this
big strong dude told me i don't want to know 19 at this point yeah i think i turned 19 in buds
yeah turn 19 in buds or something like that there's no internet 19 in a school or something
in 20 buds but yeah still baby that's what i was gonna say because like i grew up my whole life
like i remember when i was in like middle school watching like making the cut on buds and shit so like i've known what this is
my whole life of like known of it so i i can't imagine walking into that situation like not
having seen a youtube video about it or just like oh yeah there's no books there's no nothing i
think the charlie sheen movie had come out prior to that but we watched it in boot camps like the
first time i saw it like oh fuck this is what i signed up for hell yeah this is a shoot through walls with 50s and stuff
like you think it's all the fun stuff when i joined basic i remember going to meps signing
in like swearing in and all that and they're like okay you're going to basic training again
infantry you don't have a choice you're going to bidding don't know that the internet's just now
becoming a thing so it was like like okay
you're going to basic training for bidding i was like oh no do you have like jackson or like i
thought infantry could pick a nicer school i was like oh yeah i knew that shipped out here we go
but it's funny because like i didn't know shit like there's no information out there was no reddit like come full circle my last job was running our pre-buds pipeline up in
chicago the guys kids would come from boot camp come over and they would be in my house for eight
weeks to learn how to get back in shape and learn mentally and physically kind of get ready for it
like there's so much bad information out there on like what, what year is this? Sorry. So that was, I went up there in 2015.
So my last three years, 2015 and 2018, I was up there running that school, but there's
so much bad information.
They get there and they start cheating right away.
And they're still in the Navy.
And like cheating, how do you cheat?
Well, there's no reason to cheat in pre buds.
It's like super simple, right?
Anyway, they would like try to cut corners.
I had to drop like the worst week i've
ever had up there i dropped 44 kids in one class because they were that forging their navy pqs
like i cleaned i know how to clean my room and to clean the barracks so i can go on leave or
liberty for the afternoon like they can't go on liberty anyways it doesn't fucking matter why
you're cheating so they got busted the The master chief of the base called me.
So I got to call the master chief of Warcom, like my senior E9 that I work for.
I'm like, hey, master chief, this is what's going on.
He's like, well, what do you want to do?
I'm like, well, right now they're not even in NSW yet.
They haven't gone to BUDS yet.
They're still in the Navy.
I'm like, if we were preaching character and integrity in my in my right mind i can't
let these guys go like it's just not the right thing to do especially at this level like
they've been in the navy of like four weeks or whatever like if we're letting them go with
integrity like basic integrity shit from here it's like we can't do it so it's like fucking
miserable like signing like kicking 44
kids out of this class i'm like one by one i've got to have like how many were in the class i was
like started with like typical class would start about 200 or so that's the seals or the seal
candidates the swift candidates we would have a handful of fleet returnees that are going or
maybe a couple transfer like marine guys that are going to go to but so every enlisted guy
that went to buds at that point came through that schoolhouse.
So they roughly 200. So typically we only lose like
eight to 10 max on like a big class for the pre for buds.
Yeah, I mean, the attrition rate for buds is I don't think it's
changed. Like 1% maybe it's like it's still 80% of the kids
aren't making it through when you went through versus when you're an instructor were the class sizes
different or they was like yeah smaller i think i think we started my first phase with 120-ish
somewhere in that ballpark and we graduated 22 21 22 and 14 of those were the original class that
didn't get rolled back so now they're starting like 180 to 200.
I don't know what it is now, but it's much higher numbers.
When you're rolling those out, what is that like?
We'll go back to like, we would love your entire thing
because that's what we'll go back to.
But with you see it now with like what you went through
and how you're treated versus, oh, this is how it's handled now.
Do you see a big shift from when you got out or is it the same standard?
It's the same standard.
I mean,
and it's funny.
Cause when you go through like hell week is chaos the whole time when you're
going through it,
like,
Oh my God,
what the fuck?
Like shit's going everywhere.
When I go back 20 years later as an instructor or observer,
I'm like,
it is scripted to the second.
Like, okay, we're going gonna have the guys in the water
at this time it's 52 degrees the wind is this they can only be in the water for 68 seconds
like down to the second as a student going through and you don't know this like yeah they can't kill
me no well turns out it turns out it can but uh anyway why yeah yeah wasn't there a kid who
like recently a couple years ago like had a heart attack or something
but i mean for that there's a lot of other shit here that joke's still one over your head
but no but for that one it was that kid had been taking
stuff that he wish he hadn't taken and it was a whole lot of other stuff that was
self-induced and they anyway maybe tried to pin it on some
guys but it yeah anyway it's a big story that i don't want to get in details i don't really know
all the details too much um going sorry going from like a pre i'll say pre-internet seal to
being a instructor post-internet and being popular was do you think that uh access to
information is like hurting or helping the new recruits coming through like do you think that uh access to information is like hurting or helping the
new recruits coming through like do you think you you had it better off not knowing anything
about what you were getting into or do you think they have it better off kind of knowing what
they're getting into i would say yes or no and this is how i'd say is like yes i had it better
off because i had no clue i was getting into and I just sucked it up and did it now the kids like
the access to information like physically and mentally these guys are fucking way out of my
like I wouldn't even probably classify for a for a contract now like we're getting our average kids
coming in at the time was 22 23 60 to 70 percent of them already had a four-year degree they
understood nutrition they understood how to work out like in the 90s we were just breaking dudes because we're like oh fuck let's
just run faster if we got to run faster or run farther that was when it was like drinking water
like that's her yeah i know he said i was like oh that kills people yeah you show up to team four
like fuck we're gonna party till 4 a.m and then get up and run for eight miles or whatever it's
like not smart from how we're like longevity standpoint so
i think today's candidates across the military are much smarter much more capable than we were
age of information it really does oh yeah i mean it's just i mean what we've learned from
like 9-11 just on longevity of the operator side of it is i mean i'd love to have a dietitian and physical therapy
like we got it later on but by that point i'm already broken oh yeah it's like you know rewind
20 years and get that when i'm 21 like hey we're gonna teach how to eat and why macronutrient
like all these different pieces are important and mitochondria like all this crap is important
that'd been awesome actually building like warriors i still would probably
drink the five am but yeah i don't know how to rehydrate it right now you knew you were
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I actually do have a question for you. So my old
platoon sergeant from Afghanistan, he was a ranger
instructor. Now I'm not comparing ranger school to
BUDS or anything else like that, but he said that after a while
doing the job,
you could pick the ones that you were
relatively confident were going to be able to get through.
I would say maybe there,
but in... Sometimes it's... They there, but in sometimes it's like,
they've actually done it where it's like,
it's a toss up.
Cause you look at a dude and you're like you,
I guarantee they're like,
Oh,
he's going to suck at road marching or these things.
I sucked at running because I'm fucking a midget.
Dude.
Like road marching.
Sorry,
short people.
Road marching can suck a cock at 135 pounds.
Like a little Mexicanican eli i was like
18 inch legs on a soft sand i'm just fucking done just go start hammering me because i'm not
gonna pass i was like i'm six two and i'm like stepping it out just trying to get on the road
and the tall dudes are like why don't you just step longer like seven foot tall you're like cool
it's like three steps for one of yours
no but it's and i try not to i mean every now and you would get some you can just tell like
character-wise they just they don't have it for what we need to do but yeah i mean you'd have
these little skinny kids you're like there ain't no way he's gonna stay warm and they pass and then
same thing on the other side super motivated high school quarterback like supreme athlete doesn't know how to fucking lose at things so you know can i tell
a quick story yeah jump in there so come get in there on the mic sit down sit on my lap
so a friend of mine and terry's for instance, the difference between like the Rangers.
This is Kevin, by the way.
Uncle Kev.
Uncle Kev.
He touches me.
No, I don't.
Move your hand.
Maybe touch your arm.
He's like, now my hands are uncomfortable.
The difference between, because most of my career has been working with these guys.
And, you know, the difference between, let's say, the Rangers or the Whiteside Seals and the Tier 1 groups.
You know, there's a lot of examples of it, but a friend of mine, Terry, that was on the green side.
He was at 39 years old, wounded severely in combat in Iraq and both arms, like for instance, one arms,
one arm, 21 surgeries to repair it. So he's almost 40 years old. And so he's on the green side and
he wants to deploy again. He's one of a few set of brothers that's ever been in that.
And he wanted to go back and deploy, and they were worried about it.
And so his deal was, okay, go through ranger school,
and if you can pass that, we'll consider letting you deploy.
And so at 40 years old, after like 60 surgeries he had from his wounds,
he's got more holes in him than anyone in the history of the greenside.
He finished first in his class.
God damn.
At Ranger school.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At that age, after those wounds, he's like three years of surgery and rehab.
And then went back and deployed for a few years before he retired just to show he could do it.
You know, it was like a mental thing for him.
And so, so when asking him, and he's been a friend of mine for 20 years and he looks like a gay waiter
he doesn't look like some you know badass and you know when asking him he's so mad
he's got a little lisp too but he is the most badass guy in the world and he just like wanted
to do it he wanted to prove it to himself and that's what they told him so it's interesting
going from you know like elite groups like the rangers or white side seals to the tier one groups
and the difference you know out of a hundred guys one or two can be here and him at that age went and did it and kicked the shit out of everyone
that goes back into poison and retires and it's like that's how special i think it gets lost a
lot of times i think oh navy seals navy seals that's awesome but going from navy seals to
the next level that's just like one in a thousand and um you know so terry's humble about it and terry's very short and probably
couldn't do it now but hell no i wouldn't want to but it is a i had to join the army it's easier
like how fucking cool that is and you know and i remember this guy who did this he told me he's
like his entire life from t-ball until through rangers special forces until his way to the tier one group was
like he was always the best anything he did whether it was baseball football basketball like anything
athletic track and field he was always number one without trying and he's like always such a badass
and he's like he told me he like, I remember when I went through selection
and then when he was selected and he goes to his group that the rest of his career, he had to try
and work hard as hell to be average. And that's just like, that's those guys. I mean, my entire
career has been working with these guys and they would be great at anything. That's where like you
or any of the other guys, it's like you get to know them and everything
and they're brothers in the NFL
or they're brothers in Major League Baseball
or their brother runs Amazon
or whatever the hell it is.
It's like, oh, these guys would be successful
at anything they did.
And I think that's the difference.
It's physical and it's also cognitive.
But that will to, yeah, I'm not going to quit.
Yeah, I'll go kick the shit out of all these
22-year-old Army guys
that think they want to be Rangers.
Just because you said I couldn't do it.
Yeah, so that's it.
So I think it gets lost, and these guys sometimes are too humble.
And for me, I want smart kids that are badasses
who want to grow up to be Navy SEALs
or I want them to grow up to be in Army Special Forces.
It's great because when you go kill dudes,
we want the best dudes to go do it. Absolutely. It's great because when we go kill dudes, we want the best dudes to go do it.
Absolutely. Definitely mentality.
A bunch of your teammates
have told me the Charlie Sheen
Navy SEAL movie is what inspired
them to become Navy SEALs.
Drinking and cocaine. Why not?
Well,
that settles it for me.
Dude, no, wait.
Hold on. the simple fact
dude
40 years
40 years old
and going through
ranger school
after getting
fucked up in war
not that guy
70
dude I would
hands down
just be tapping
I'm too old
70 holes
dog
no
I'm not waking up
like
you're starving
at 40
it's gotta be something you're bored with
i'll be honest i'd be mad if i got shot the 70th one is the worst you could have stopped at 69
hilarious
thank god
you know god damn it why you put me on podcasts with people like this man
i i was in my chair a couple weeks ago and moved wrong.
And I had to decide between either getting to my truck or calling an ambulance.
My back just locked up on me in my chair in my office.
It's bullshit.
Yeah, it was right in the middle of my spine.
And I was like, oh.
I was trying to reach my phone on the desk and I couldn't.
I was like, oh.
It was not.
No.
And then that. I'm sold, though. it was a not new. No. And then that
I'm sold though. I have a new goal. But as you're hearing
Kevin's speech, so um, how are you? 5150? We can do it. So if
you if you don't know, the first time Ethan came on, this is like
his fifth appearance, at least. The first time he came on, he
was gonna finish out his 20 years and on on the podcast, I
openly said, I'm gonna get you to quit your job and six weeks later he numbers we did some
analytics he's four years out from retiring yeah what are you retiring
still no I'm looking at a bed board they want to open up my other hip they
already opened up one of both my knees I'm like you know what I'm used up I'm
gonna just walk I'm good I'll go make youtube videos i'm not that guy i'm not that 40 year old
like no one's gonna be like man ethan's badass i'm like that fat fuck is funny
you know what's cool too so this individual now retired is a ceo of a company in our rent
our industry which so he retires from that and then goes on to he wants to work in the industry.
And now he's the CEO of a company that helps those guys to do what they do.
So even in that regard, he rose to the top.
He's built different.
He's like, I'm not the cream that rises to the top.
Yeah, I'm the cream that's curdled at the bottom of the coffee.
I slowly...
I know my place in this world.
My point is...
Yes.
I reverse recruited him.
True.
We're going to recruit you and get you to join the military again.
That sold me on it.
I don't know if I could.
I think I might be aged out by now.
They'll make an exception.
Yeah, I was like, don't...
You're on unsub now. Yeah. I don't buy the grandest medals. I don't aged out by now. They'll make an exception. You're on unsub now.
You're on his medals.
I don't saw one of those things.
You wake up in basic.
No.
I think we've got a general coming on soon
that might be able to wave that.
Just to get you back in the swing of things,
we'll have Eli go up, find you in the middle of the night
with a red flashlight and say you got fire guard.
Both of them right there.
Do you know how much money I would pay if we could secretly film him going to just a regular Army basic training at Fort Jackson?
I'll just go to the recruiter and see if he'll sign me up.
At 51?
You know how funny that would be?
Play it dumb during all of the training.
I don't know if my knees can handle all that short little shuffle run crap they do.
We don't say a thing until week
15 when you
actually are on
platform and you have your rack
of medals on.
He's in his class A show
and I'm calling his triathletes and shit.
How are you in boot camp with an E9?
Let me tell you a little story.
You ever hear of blue to green?
What are these tridents?
Patrol sergeants don't even have deployment patches.
They don't even have the last nine minutes.
They got chaperones.
They stay in the parade.
Once they see the...
He walks in and they all just look at each other.
We fucked up
everyone's terrified it's like uh undercover boss
would be so funny
you're clean-shaded you're like i fucking hate this i probably look like a baby like i've had
this beard for years i I probably would look young.
You're 35.
It's your first time through basic training.
I just made an age cut off.
You're a line cook at Waffle House.
You just had a divorce.
You're looking for a new start.
The judge gave me two options.
I'm specific, man.
I'm the oldest guy.
Dude, I remember
those 35 year olds in basic
I've said it dude I got the luckiest
basic training like period
joined we had
40 people 42
28 of them were E4s
because they were all college grads
so everyone else was
like an E3 so the drill sergeants
at the end were like
y'all really squared away.
Thank you.
That was it.
Like, we had a radio since week three.
They would let us walk.
I remember going to meds at basic and they're like, oh, the kill zone.
I was like, what's a kill zone?
Like in the middle of the aisle where you can't step. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, wait, you can walk in the middle of the aisle where you can't step i'm like what the
fuck are you talking about like wait you can walk in the middle of your barracks like yeah
like you guys don't have a radio either they were looking at us like what would you guys fuck up
yeah we had no idea and it was just a wild thing meanwhile i'm at fort knox kentucky with 120
retards man like i swear we were on Red Cycle the entire time.
Watching other plus two and two.
And I was like, why is music playing at three in the morning?
You look out, it's like lights are turning on, turning off.
It's like, oh, they're playing games up there.
They earned something.
Oh, dude.
Now, when you did, you were Buds.
And then what group
did you go with? What team were you initially?
Yeah, so graduate buds went to seal team for back in I got
there in 90 October 93 I believe it was. Yep. So deep for two
points South America. Awesome time like South American and I
use is awesome. Serve hang out locals dollar was strong. So you
could take all your local dude you're training
to dinner and drinks, and it was like
30 bucks or whatever.
Oh, dude.
I love South America.
I don't know about now, but probably worth
going back there now. Kevin, I'm sure
there's something down there we can go kill in Ecuador.
Animal-wise.
Animal-wise.
That was the look of somalia you're thinking of oh if nick nick was finding out we were going
to south africa he's like we're going to africa next year nick's like to hunt pirates i'm like
what that is a thing yeah Yeah, I'm aware.
That's why I said it.
Yeah.
Kevin, stop nodding.
Kevin's got, I got to vote.
The game kills people.
Here we go.
Pepper boxing spoofs.
I think Disney's going to get mad
when I steal the Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack.
Just the outfit.
You gotta have the eye shadow
and the whole thing.
A six chamber,
blackout, trifold hat.
Jesus Christ.
Every time I feel like we've peaked on Unsub,
I come back for another episode.
Nah, we'll fuck that line line we're gonna go even further so you were still team four out the gate and then
you worked up to how how many years until where you landed so five years and at that point my
list went up i'm like okay get out i guess i never really thought about making a career of it and my
girlfriend then my wife now she's like well i'm not still yeah no no it's awesome that's she's she's awesome but anyway that's a yeah it's like
trooper well i'm not going anywhere i'm like well if you're not going i guess i'll go re-enlist
and if i re-enlist i'm going to try out for this development group thing she's like what is it
like fuck i don't know but it's funny because i think i was telling one of the guys earlier
like my first and second platoon chief are both from there, but they never really talked about what it was,
what they did, anything else.
It was just kind of understood that
you do your time at Team 4 for your first
deployment, and then you try to go to Green Team
and keep progressing on.
So, again, no idea what I was really
getting into other than that's just the next level
to go to. So I went to Green Team
in 98.
They said it was cool yeah
it's fortunate because i didn't really know what to expect so i had no expectations of what i was
getting into i just showed up and did the work and was like kevin saying i was average at best in green team but i
was i didn't fuck anything up i didn't no safety violations i didn't kill anybody so i made it
through it was average at being point zero zero percent of the top yeah dude all the guys like
my old first aren't it was until uh some of the cat guys came out we were training at the other
ranch here and they just came out and were like
oh they were fans of content
I was like oh I think my old first horn
he made he did a long
walk and like who's your first horn I was like
oh CJ and they're like get the
fuck out you know so I was like yeah
he was like first horn in nine years
like he was with
second bat and then just like
sped through everything so train us up
and then out and then when he the stories they were telling me i was like i did not know that cj
that is a different cj than i knew it's funny because i did two deployments and this is like
pre anything really going on other than you know we're doing fit or foreign general defense
training locals do a little bit of counter-drug stuff,
but not anything crazy.
I'm like, oh, I'm pretty cool.
I know what I'm doing.
I've been in for five years.
And then you show up over there, and you're like,
your peer group at that point, you're like, oh, fuck.
This is like the cream of the crop.
Some of the guys I had in my green team were just absolute legends.
I'm like, like i gotta really step
up my shit like i thought i was cool at team four but like not here always a bigger fish
yeah oh yeah and i was and i was the youngest guy in the class so i was the baby how old were
you at this point uh 25 okay how long have you been with your wife uh so i've been married 26 years i think you got kids yeah so i mean you were cut out i think
i got you we're in that ballpark we're over the 25 year now yeah so i mean you were you were
top top of the line everything by the time the internet was around and before anybody even knew what that was it is there a
point where your wife and or your kids like turn around wait hold on dad does that well it just
kind of grew they grew up like that so my wife she's from that well it's not from that community
but we started dating when I was a team four so she's just been around seals in that community and
other girlfriends why so she just understood what was going on.
And when 9-11 kicked off, it was a whole different world.
Like we didn't have kids at that point.
So it was like, hey, I'm going here.
I don't know when I'm coming back.
And she just got in that cycle.
Like, hey, every nine months, Terry's taking off.
And then we had our first kid.
And I would come home and I would try to be the best that I could when I'm home.
And then I'm gone for 200 days a year or whatever it's going to be from training and deployments and everything else.
It's super strong lady and super awesome.
And I'm lucky to have her.
I mean, we had struggles like everybody else does.
But yeah, I think I was lucky because I was gone so much that by the time she got tired of my bullshit, I would leave for a while.
Then she said, okay, come back home.
And I come home, I piss her off again.
I'm like, oh, I'm gone again again but you being home is her deployment yeah exactly yeah
but yeah this i don't know where i was going with that but yeah so it's it's
i don't know where that question was but yeah oh i just like i mean was there ever like so
your wife knew but i mean when you started having kids like was there a a day where one of your kids
was like oh shit my dad's way cooler than i thought
it's funny because my girls are never impressed like dad's dad like she knew what i did and my
friends and those poor boyfriends yeah i was about to say, I was going to go to school and they're like,
we just don't talk about what dad does.
And it was funny.
Cause like my daughter,
she was probably third grade or whatever.
My wife tells the story.
She was at school doing something and it's like,
okay,
what's your dad do?
It's like,
well,
we,
we don't talk about dad and teachers are like,
oh,
dad's an asshole.
We probably beat the wife and her divorce or whatever.
Like,
then she's like, okay, how how and then eventually my daughter's like dad's in Iraq killing bad guys or whatever and
she's like oh okay we're just not gonna ask her it's funny because there's a bird I drew
really great just don't talk about where dad goes or when he's when he's gone well that's what's
crazy is a lot of people like we had you when you guys deployed, even when I deployed, it was such different ops.
Versus you didn't get the chance to.
You couldn't say when you were deploying at those first year, like first year or two years.
Well, with her, I could.
The only one that was different, our first Iraq deployment, was, so 03, everything kicks off.
We four deploy.
Our green brothers over there, they're doing a different mission than we're doing the wmd stuff that was probably the only deployment for like 60 to 90 days to where
we didn't call home the command people would keep them involved like hey the guys are deployed
everybody's fine like they would keep them up to date but that was probably the only window of out
of the 26 years that i didn't talk to her at some point
and like and she didn't really know what was going on i mean obviously watched the news
she knew what was going on but she had no idea like really where we were but outside of that it
was once a week or once every couple weeks like whatever i could we'd call her emailing we had
emails back then i wasn't i'm not that old but yeah so it's not safe also yeah so but it's
funny i think asl yeah and i think the best thing that she ever did was she never got sucked into I'm not that old, but yeah. So it's, but it was funny. I think,
I think the best thing that she ever did was she never got sucked into the
whole wife's network.
We call it the pink squad and whatever you want to call it.
Like the bitchiness, like, Oh, my husband did this.
And like, she never put up with that bullshit.
She's like, Hey, she had her friends.
She made really good friends with other Navy wives that were not in the
command.
So she just didn't put up with that bullshit,
which saved me a lot of problems.
We call them dependopotamuses.
Yeah, dependopotamuses is like.
No, my wife's hot.
So she wouldn't.
It's that FRG group where you're like.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
My wife actively, like every time anything happens at work and like they do mandatory
funds, she either A, doesn't show up up or b she like goes out of her way
to the minimum yes goes well like she just tries to make it miserable for everybody else there
like it'll be for the kids and she'll like go and take all the pizza and just walk away
she's like you make me be here i don't want to be here get your out of here yeah holy shit it is
when um after you got there after like running there's so many questions like
dude all the different stuff oh dude i just love it like i get so excited with this shit because
we don't get to talk about it much it's like we were talking i was telling nick i was like again
you were telling about like thermobare grenades and then at4 thermobare thermobare at4s we did
not get to discuss that last time i was like i, I've heard of the CQB AT4.
I'm not familiar with the Thermobaric AT4.
Yeah, I was on that podcast too.
There's a Thermobaric one.
Yeah, I was like, bro, you guys get the coolest fucking weapon platform.
Yeah, you want to drop a building quick, launch one of those things through the window, and the game is over.
But I mean, that's, you know, I was telling somebody that's like, poob.
What's the new one? but i mean that's you know i was telling somebody that's like our new our new merch for the podcast is going to be a cartoon drawing of the at4 and it's going to say i have the talking stick i have the talking tube like the old uh australian like ring things
yeah yeah wow you better send me one yeah i mean drop a
building with an at4 it's fucking awesome when did you first get introduced to this weapons platform
that one that was a big on the breacher side of it i never got to shot shoot one child one
shoot one i don't know you tell us you're here for the right right either can be right to us
yeah so i never got to shoot one but some of the other guys did.
That's probably
I was in Iraq when I first saw it.
That's probably mid
5, 6, 7, somewhere in there.
Somebody will fact check and be like, this is when it was invented.
No, no one in this community
would be like, that dude's a hero.
I'm going to be honest.
Knowing this random shit's my job,
I've never heard of it.
Thermal Mercury T4? No. honest knowing this random shit's my job i've never heard of it thermobaric 84 no um to give
you an idea i did a video on now you got me a question maybe this is a different rocket you
let me know if we have to cut that out but uh i probably need to say whatever some of you'll
fact check and maybe oh no that was a curl did they make a carl maybe it was that i don't know
do you remember uh have you seen the hellfire missile that's just kinetic with the katanas in it huh they make a hellfire missile with no ordnance and it just
has eight katanas that flail out and it's just direct impact for when you want to hit
one dude like literally like front seat of a car one car with no casualties or whatever it was uh
we killed some uh caliban leader yeah he was out on his balcony yeah he
would go out on his morning balcony every morning to drink coffee and just right on his
just like a manhole cover 1.3 yeah razors just katanas and i did a video on it and it was never
on wikipedia or anything and like four days later it was on Wikipedia. So Thermal Barrel Grenade coming soon to Wikipedia.
Thermal Barrel ATM.
They were like, get it.
Yeah, what's Brian doing?
Do we need those legalized?
Yeah.
It's wild, all those different weapon platforms.
Uncle Sam goes all in, man.
Some of the shit we make.
The shit we started making after 01, we first got over.
Like Predator, like all that ISR shit.
We didn't have any of that stuff.
01, 02, 03. It's like, what's in there i'm best guess we'll figure it out i know units today that if they got dropped in a foreign country and said all right here's a map you need to figure out
where the hell you're going they would shit their pants oh yeah that's yeah it's terrible well
it's good from the fact that we have that technology and we can leverage it to keep guys as safe as we can,
but it also bad.
Like,
Hey,
if the Chinese knock out all our fucking satellites,
how are you going to fucking solve the problem?
That's over dependence.
That's a wonderful point.
I was working with,
we trained to that now with the guys.
So it's absolutely,
it's good.
Oh,
man,
bro.
Yeah.
That all.
Well,
not now.
I'd be like,
I don't remember.
I was working with an ASVAB. I could do that all day. Well, not now. I'd be like, I don't remember. Does it look any different than a normal AT4, or is it just the round inside that's different? Now you got me questioning. That was a long time ago.
I had a lot of drinks on the side.
I didn't want to find the difference between the two.
I'm sure there was something on the side that says,
don't fucking drop this.
Because I know that the CQB one had a water charge on the back
that would take care of most of the back blast.
You were learning all this random shit.
It is one of those crazy things,
because it's like what you guys do.
Another random fucking thing.
Did you do Halo while you were in?
That's why you're so short.
Dude, this is the heart.
He wasn't this fine.
He used to be a lot taller.
It is the craziest thing to me is your Halo school.
If people do not do a wind tunnel or know the training,
and you trained on a wooden board and it was right yeah
you're like spinning around little skydiving bro like this is the only thing i could never
understand it was a wooden board and they're like no higher push push your dick into arch it
and then they're like and i'm a fucking plane yeah no you figured out yeah how how the because
it took me three days of tunnel time to figure it
out and i was just slamming against the fucking wall you're special time tunnel time it's fine
this is not tunnel time they just chuck you out and you're like yeah back in old age we we end up
in like so i went through free fall in green team so we had the tunnels and all that kind of stuff
but yeah i remember the old guys like on my little skydive board like oh we're gonna do a formation and they're scrolling around
like a little creeper for under your car because when's it it's a lot more difficult than you think
yeah until you get the feel i mean once you get the feel of it then the easiest thing in the world
then you strap a lot of shit on and i'm short and i'm small so you start strapping all the shit on
i got like little hands sticking out trying to fly yeah i'm like you get little hands in my feet hopefully i'm falling straight i can't tell
we had when we did free fall we were with um clint trials clint was part of uh you know clint
we were jumping with clint and his team was there so like it was his first jump since the incident and i hop in i finally barely floating
and then clint is in the tunnel with me he's like wow this is and clint don't have no legs
and he's out flying me i was like you're cheating first off way easier with no legs
and he's just like we like doing twirls i I was like, God damn it, dude. It's the hardest thing in the world.
I love that you know Clint.
I thought it was awesome.
Love him.
Yeah.
Clint is where Clint's supposed to come on, too.
Oh, that'll be fun.
We'll have you on with Clint, too.
Why not?
You know, it's just.
It's just all the dudes.
Let's get Clint, Marcus Latrelle.
Yeah, when Clint comes on, it's like, hey, what'd you fuck up to lose your legs?
What'd you do wrong?
No.
When he landed,
he flared too early, so he
had a fall. I was like,
not good. We're going to do it again.
I've got to re-record that. He's like, fuck you, dude.
We got
thermal barrack grenades, thermal barrack AT4s.
What other exciting
shit did you get exposed to oh man i mean all the advancements of like weapon systems and
ammunition like all that stuff was driven from the the special operations side so you name it like
what was i mean if you i mean you were there for the period you were in you saw a pretty rapid
advancement and i was i was very lucky on my timing so i came in in the 90s nothing's going on
got to learn how to be a seal learn how to do my job well before 9-11 kicked off so by time 9-11
kicked off i'm in nine ten years in the navy i already know the job so now we start adding
complexity of now we start adding complexity of,
now we're in fucking Afghanistan.
We don't have X, Y, and Z,
but we're just figured out.
Stress level is good.
And then a bunch of awesome appointments,
slowing down, getting into the leadership position.
And as everything kind of starts slowing down in the world and changing to whatever we got today,
it's like, I'm out.
Time's up.
I'm old.
I'm good. Yeah, like my timing wise is awesome
i got to see the heyday of of all that stuff yeah you got to see i get to do my job you got to like
war as fuck like i mean initial push that was there's i don't get into like dick measuring
content like i mean don't get me wrong i was in afghanistan but i was at rcC. South, so I don't mess with people who've been to R.C. East.
R.C. South, yes.
And people who did initial push into Iraq or Afghanistan.
I'm like, nope, you're dick bigger.
South was sporty for a while, depending on where you're at.
I was 10-11.
Oh, 10-11, yeah?
Yeah.
I mean, it was more IEDs than direct contact.
There was a lot of IEDs down there.
The guys in the East were getting hit every time.
Yeah, it goes 6-7.
We started really pushing on them.
It was fun i was part of that big push that obama did to try to like end the war where
they just threw like what is it 15 20 000 extra troops in afghanistan i was part of that and
that was fun that entire like the surge and you're just fighting it you're like hey oh oh this is
poor um i got dibs on that one it's fine this is not a word was it were there any new like weapon
systems or
equipment that you guys had to test out that you just absolutely hated and they were trying to make
yeah like the whole fucking thing was so luckily like where we were at like eli loves the scar
talk about it yeah i hate it we broke they sent us 12 of the tests and we broke every single
one of them and the folding stock you're like like, with the stock open, it blows up, and springs go flying.
You're like, what the fuck is this thing?
I love the government.
It's government approved.
Yeah, so that was an old SOCOM project.
We fell under SOCOM, but we didn't have to follow there.
So we went the 417 route with H&K. H and K, but yeah, like outside of that, we, we had a lot of flexibility on what we used,
you know, within, within the law.
Right.
But yeah, we get the, we got the pick stuff.
Got you.
Yeah.
You got to pick stuff.
Like, like the whole 300 black guy was like, Hey, we have a, a problem.
We need to solve this.
So we go out to industry and like Uncle Kev helped to solve that problem of
subsonic heavy. Cause five, five, six subsonic just doesn't work. Right. So we go out to industry and Uncle Kel helped us solve that problem of sub-sonic heavy,
because 5.56 sub-sonic just doesn't work.
Were you part of this conversation where it was like, hey, we have the MP5 SD, we have
9 mil, we have all, can we even say that?
Okay.
I don't know where we're allowed to talk about your comment.
Apparently you said something wrong.
I know.
I was like, wait, can we talk about that?
No?
Yeah.
Okay.
I was like, bleep it.
I think you're trying to take a drink at the same time.
But it is.
It was so like you had like 5.56, HK, 4.16, 4.16, whatever.
And then SBDs or SDs.
And then you have approach with 300 blackout.
Right?
You were part of that.
It came from a problem set of needing a very quiet solution to a problem.
556 is not there.
One of the guys in the office was talking.
John needs to come down here and do this stuff.
Talking about history stuff.
John knows all this stuff.
He built all my guns.
John, you're welcome on here.
Yeah, so the Whisper stuff.
It was combat development.
Yeah.
He works for us now. Yeah. Oh, fine. Kevin's just hiring the Whisper stuff. It was combat development. Yeah. He works for us now.
Yeah.
Oh, fine.
Kevin's just hiring the best of people.
That's why I love it.
But it was a problem.
We needed a subsonic solution to kill bad guys.
The HEK MP5 9mm doesn't really do it.
5.56, you can't slow down enough to be subsonic and still be lethal.
So some of the guys were talking about Whis about whisper and john was talking about this and they and it's about the same time kevin was
looking at it and it just happened to be like the perfect storm of we have a problem they're
they're flexible and fast enough to solve this problem and it gave us the 300 blackout which
everybody in the world has now right yeah so it's stuff like that it's like hey we have an issue go out to industry and solve it how was it we're never really forced to like
socom tried to force that scar on they did on the white side guys but we never had to deal with it
and then how was that dealing with like the like the honey badger essentially when it was just
because we didn't know civilian market didn't know for how long yeah the honey badger went to the
green guys we just we rebuilt just essentially m4 uppers or we bought M4 uppers in the 300 Black House we just swap it
out like hey I got my recce gun now I got my my 300 Blackout upper or whatever it's going to be
just plug and play and it's I think you were talking about it Kevin it's like you went from
an eight pound five ounce uh mp5 to a 5.5 ounce yeah so there's only on the blackout you could as a sniper a recce guy
up front you could load top five rounds subsonics and if it shit goes south just roll right in your
supersonics and you have a round this fucking is this how people feel when i talk about missiles
because i'm like so you guys are the science behind your tism is tickling and i'm just like
i'm so happy right now and bullets and subsonic and supersonic i just
because you're and then what year this is getting developed like where you start rolling it's like
10 10 11 something like that yeah we used it it's gonna take over real fucking quick and i guarantee
it was awesome especially because like our main our what from the national mission force our main
job was hostage rescue at sea so if i'm climbing over the side of a ship and there's 500 people on board,
now I've got a 200-grain bullet that's going to go through a person,
but it's not going to go through a wall or anything else.
I can address an issue up close, not worried about what's necessarily behind it.
And then having rounds bouncing down the steel hallway like a 5-5-6 round.
And really extremely loud in those environment.
I'm assuming not the ear pro days that we have now.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, yeah.
Suppressed everything is the way to go now.
I'm still in a steel suppressors when I was younger.
Cause my ears suck.
The funny part to me that I'm still hung up on is like,
I can't fathom the level of bad-ass you have to be for the United States
government to trust you to change
the uppers and calibers and different bullets they're in a different military yeah the average
the average entry would never be allowed we got this knock on wood I don't think we ever blew up
an upper we can fund some of those development like hey 556 is great for a lot of stuff but like the
old green tip bullets or fmj bullets just don't fucking work on people like so let's develop a
bullet that fits into the gun like we got a 77 grain like 70 grain like all these different
variations of 556 that came out over there like the gray much more lethal yeah yeah i didn't know
those were a thing until i was handed a lot of grit for like huh
those are now thank you yeah and that's what you know came into the short barrel 308 stuff was
in iraq this was 0506 we're in and out of vehicles like panders or strikers or whatever it is and it
is literally like maybe you feel like a dismount right so we've got sr25s which are awesome guns but
they're long as shit like i can't get in now that effectively i need to still kill people 500 yards
so we just started chopping barrels like john's like oh here's a 12 inch barrel try that and
we're not allowed to do that with our yeah so we went through a bunch of different variations and
then like okay the sr as awesome as it is it's not going to be that solving that short barrel gas gun 308 that gives me that.
Well, what this does now.
But back then we were just experimenting and that led into the 417, you know, the 308s and all the other shit that came out of that.
Which bleeds over into the civilian market all the time. Going back to the ocean, there was a movie about your stuff.
Are you allowed to discuss any of that?
We can hit the high points.
High points?
Yeah.
How was it?
Did you like that movie?
I keep saying I got to go back and watch it.
We're talking Cap Phillips.
I was part of that.
Thankfully, I love that.
Of my almost 30-year career,
there was two missions where we brought Americans home
that I was on.
Captain Phillips won,
and then Jessica Lynch was the other one.
I was part of both of those.
You were part of Jessica Lynch?
One of the hundreds of people there.
Holy shit.
Oh, yeah, now I'm playing.
One of the hundreds of people there. But all the stuff that we do that's exactly
that's exactly why we do our jobs like our job is to bring americans home right number one like
kill bad guys are awesome but if if there's a chance to bring an american home we do that
yeah so captain phillips i was forward deployed to uh eastern africa doing some work over there
small team of guys and my boss calls me i'm i'm in another over there. Small team of guys.
And my boss calls me.
I'm in another country away from the rest of the guys doing some work for some three-letter guys.
And my boss calls me.
It's like 8 o'clock at night or something.
He's like, hey, are you watching the news?
I'm like, no, sir.
Obviously, I'm not.
I'm working at the bar or wherever I was at.
So I get back to the hotel, turn the news on. I'm like, oh, fuck news on like oh fucks i call them like do i gotta come back like what's going on i was like
no let's keep an eye on it there's nothing we can do at this point there's too far out to see
fast forward like 5 30 in the morning phone calls like we need you back here now so i don't know if
you guys have ever been africa but it's not easy to get from one country to the next
So all the time it's one of our big Nick
fastest Toyota
Meet me on the street and fly me the embassy
Can I say the movie quote without you like, you know murdering me here real quick? i said lucas wife's like a box of chocolate
you ain't got no legs i am the captain no i'm just one sure if it's funny i get that meme every year on my birthday it's awesome
i got good friends
hard hard time so yeah so it takes me like all day to get back to the embassy get in there get the debrief and
luckily the rest of my team like my team like six guys or they're doing a brief they're they're i
got my cct and my pj, they're briefing the Bain Bridge
because we're going to jump in, sit down, do the whole thing.
And my boss at this point is like, hey, all we need to do,
or your job until everybody else gets there,
is just to keep Cap Phillips in the boat out to sea.
Don't let him get to shore.
Because when they're out there, I have a self-contained little problem in a boat out to sea don't let him get to shore because when you're out there
i have a self-contained little problem in a boat we know what we have it's control it's a little
bit of variables but it's it's very dealable or doable or whatever you want to call english it's
not my i need another one you were the captain now i was like i get this man yeah yeah whatever
it is i might steal one of your white claws yeah yeah fired up there you're senior but uh yeah so we get over there we do the debriefs we get all the way back across
there jump in the jump in the plane fly the coast get all our gear parachutes guns all the stuff
we jump in the airplane and we fly out at this point it's april i think it's april
so april in indian oceans there's a lot of thunderstorms
so you just gotta dive before it so then one of the number well there's a lot of rules i broke but one of the rules was in normal military free fall you have to be able to see the dz and when we're
jumping into the water i have to be able to see my ground crew so we're out there we're buzzing
out and we're like essentially the max range of what
this aircraft will do pilot comes on we do a couple passes i've got the sensor operators in the back
and they're like we can hear the guys on radio because we can we're talking to them we know
they're here somewhere we just can't see them physically and then we're doing a pass pilot
comes on say hey we've we're about then go on fuel we probably did another pass and then uh then we're gonna have to come home there's we have no other options and about that
same time he's he's telling me that on radio clouds break a little bit i see a wake sensor
operator slings it over a little bit and i just see the tail fan of the bainbridge i'm like
fucking and matt's on the back we already got the green light to go because we know we're close
i'm like go so we
just run out of there as fast as we can to skydive in and everybody's safe and we made it to the boat
and what's the winds and like you you're saying we're like 4 500 feet or so like we're low oh
it's a low it's a hug it is a fucking pop it like literally you're dropping up yeah yeah go down so
i don't know what to do okay just for Just for reference, if you're doing this commercial, you're jumping at like 15 to 20 and you're
almost going to have now.
Yeah.
And you're opening at 5,500.
What he's saying, you are jumping out and going like this.
Okay.
And we're 1,000.
Was it?
No, this is free.
This is 1,000, 2,000.
Yeah.
It's not the Marine Corps or the Rangers
or any of that shit.
Dude, this is like you're jumping out
the back. You're not hitting
the slide. You're hitting the slide in a media.
Just one, two,
wave, pull, everyone get in formation.
Holy shit.
Terry, where'd you land? In Indian Ocean.
No sharks.
No sharks.
Why didn't you land on the boat?
Because the boat hurts when you're skydiving.
The water is soft.
It's wet.
I like the wet stuff.
The wet stuff is nice.
No, no.
I'm terrified of the ocean because I watch a lot of documentaries.
You think, middle of the goddamn night,
in a storm, I'm going to land in the Indian Ocean.
We'll see.
How do your balls fit in your pants, sir?
Like, man, no, no.
You couldn't catch me?
Nope.
I just myself.
Fuck it.
It's not a seal no more.
That's not me.
You just run out.
You're like, look.
Not doing it, man.
Man, damn it.
It's funny because, again, like the rules that we maybe bent a little bit.
So I had two Army guys that were with me in East Africa,
and I chose not to take them, and I get shit for us all the time
from the Admiral now and some of the Army guys.
And my justification at the time was these guys didn't have all the gear they needed.
We were jumping into the water at night. They never jumped into the water the gear they needed we were jumping into the water
at night they never jumped into the water at night and had never jumped into the water period like
it was stacking and then our parachutes are out of date like there's a lot of like stacking
compounding factors that like that sounds so good like i just we're bending enough rules that i know
the guys i've been training with where we can solve the problem, but now bringing in two guys that are unfamiliar with a lot of this stuff
and the gear shortage and fluting, like, it just wasn't there.
So I got a lot of shit for that.
But, I mean, it's probably the right call.
Like, the last thing you want to have to worry about is trying to help some dude get better.
For what we were doing, the problem we were solving,
I had three other team guys, two other enlisted team guys,
a J.O. a jo this knew the command
myself and two air force guys cct and pj so like for what we're doing like just keep the boat from
going to the beach as we were fine yeah i get shit from it but anyway where i was oh so we get
get picked up gun on the bain bridge and i'm a e7 i think at this time. And Jonas is an E04, brand new to command.
We climb up, good talk to the captain of the boat.
And he's like, okay, senior chief, what do you want to do?
I'm like, well, I don't know.
We're going to keep the boat.
He's like, how do you want to do it?
Not realizing what he's asking, he's like,
I've been told that you are in command of this boat.
So Jonas and I, we're in command of this boat so jonas and i are we're in
command of the two naval assets that are there so you're the captain now i was the captain
and i quickly advocated that back to the captain i'm like well what would you do sir he's like i
would probably do this i'm like that's pretty good idea i'll trust your judgment on this but it's the most interesting thing
hey bro what would you do yeah i'm like let's fire up the navy guns let's go
this thing take the ocean canoe that way
with all the other going on he tells you that you're like how the do i answer this i
don't i know nothing about a navy ship other than it floats. And it's gray
and there's a whole lot
of miserable mothers on it.
I'm not that kind of Navy.
I don't know.
There's a whole big tuna can
full of miserable dudes.
I guess,
yeah.
I'm going to come,
right now,
I'm sorry.
You're going to be a meme
on Reddit.
Oh, I'm sure.
Oh, dude,
this Reddit's going to love this.
I don't go on Reddit,
so it's fine.
No,
you think it's not a thing?
They're going to love you for this.
We're going to mean the fuck out of it.
It's not real people either.
That's the name of the podcast episode, though.
He's the captain now.
He's the captain now.
Don't even put my picture on the thumbnail.
Don't even put me on
there anyway so we so we so we commenced to keeping the boat from going going to shore and
work through and it's a we're talking i probably shouldn't use names but
we can believe it well we lost him in extortion so it doesn't really matter
awesome dude awesome dude and all those guys are awesome but off off track now. But anyway, so we get up there.
We spend the next, I don't know, felt like three days doing it.
It was probably like a cycle of darkness, but we got there.
It's night.
We got the ship.
We're moving around.
We're essentially playing cat and mouse.
It's like, I'll use these big-ass fucking 8.6 bullets.
So this will be good.
I can't see it here.
That'll be the lifeboat, and then this will be good you can't see it here that'll be the lifeboat and then this will be the big shit all we're doing is like keeping them pushed out to sea
they'd go around us and come back around we would move the boat around and just like keep
keep them to our it was a starboard side at that point just keep them out to sea just keep working
around they would slow down and we would spin back around like this is that one of you like this bottle breacher things it's not mine but no you like
crane oh no we actually thought it was he like cranes and he was like knock off
dude you like also really good yeah we kept doing this kept doing this now we're in the daylight
they're getting pissed off they're out of cot because they chew the cod all the shit all the time and they're out of cot they're running out of gas
they're getting pissed off and at the same time we're talking to our negotiator in new york the
jttf guys they're talking to the tribal leadership on the on the beach doing all this negotiation
like hey we just want the captain back i don don't give a **** about the boat or whatever else. You guys can go do whatever you want to do.
So we're working this, and throughout that course of the day,
maybe later that day, they're out of cotton.
Their batteries are running low on their radios.
So we work through the negotiator.
Like, hey, let's just resupply you.
We don't have cotton, but we can bring cigarettes, new batteries, all that ****.
They're like, okay'll we'll do that so my team we dress up in a little blue coverall navy not dungos
because they weren't dungos at that point but blue coveralls shove our shit down in the corners of
the boat and we're just like easing up to the back of the boat because we don't know where captain
phillips is this is post him jumping out of the boat, trying to get away at night.
So they've got him in there somewhere.
We don't know where he's at.
So as we pull up, they crack the thing and come out.
They're all potted up.
Their eyeballs are all bloodshot.
So they open the door.
He comes out, get the boat we're talking to, and we're easing up. And then from my position in the rib, I can see Captain Phillips on the front left side of the boat.
He's like rigor taped or flex cuffed to the boat or to the seat.
Like, okay, perfect.
They're not going to untie him to do whatever.
So I know wherever we're doing, where he's at.
And it was super sweet because as we go up there and we're talking to those guys
and then we tell the captain, like, hey, Captain,
the guys from Virginia Beach are here.
And like his demeanor
just shifted like he understood with all the stress that he was going through like what that
meant so it's super cool we did this pass it off we fly around we use the helicopters to kind of
keep the boat and all the stuff that i don't even know if the helicopters were in a movie
but so we launch helicopters that kind of keep them pushed out for a little bit i actually don't
think the helicopters were.
I've never actually seen the entire movie.
So somebody down below, just correct us on that on the movie.
Thank you.
Like, subscribe, hit that bell notification.
Yeah, all that stuff.
More of Terry.
All that stuff.
So anyway, so then later that night, you know, the cavalry shows up.
So the other squadron shows up.
And it's funny because I know I've been there long enough.
I know what's happening.
Like they deployed everybody to come do our first at sea hostage rescue.
That's exactly why we are who we are.
And the captain calls me.
He's like, hey, so how's it going?
I give him the debrief.
He's like, okay, cool.
He's like, what do you need? I'm like, in my back of my mind like they're taking over but i'm like i'm
gonna pull one i'm like you know he sent me like six snipers i think we got it fairly under control
and we'll just we'll we'll be done with this by the morning he's just laughing but he's like ah
okay terry that's cool but we're we're sending a true plus and they're taking I knew they were
but I was like they want shot I'm gonna see if I can stay in charge of this thing but they
they came over later that night we debriefed them gave them the video told them exactly what you
know all this stuff like what's going on and at this point my guys have been up for a while
so we're like okay let's go these guys here they have it take a nap whatever else down our gear
i don't know how long i'm asleep not not long but you get that kind of like
i wonder what the fuck's going on go by and as i'm walking through the the little back area
like here stage i'm like i don't see anybody there's like nobody's in there i'm like what
the fuck's going on so i just happen to grab my nods in my helmet and my gun i'm like
just natural i guess at this point.
Go out to the fantail, and everybody's lined up, and the boat's undertow, and it's dark out.
I see these guys laying down, and my buddy, he's the troop chief for the sniper guys.
He's like, oh, perfect timing.
We need, why don't you jump in here with this guy?
Two guys per at this
point we'd already pulled one of those one of those guys off that stabbed himself so we got
three three pirates captain phillips boats under tow it's at night and like everybody's online it's
like okay what are we doing it's like well they're just like playing poppa weasel we get one up
and two up then one will go down another one comes it's like this whack-a-mole shit it's like if we ever get them like all three when we left africa that was the or we jumped in that was our
kind of our roes like if you can guarantee 100 that you can solve the problem you guys can solve
the problem so i lay down and i'm probably not very long there and it's like all of a sudden
like this guy's up that guy's up that guy's up everybody checks in like we're good right all right three two one boom problem solved guys slide for life down in there rescues captain
phillips and the rest is a movie holy jesus it's like perfect time like it's funny because
it's it's funny your entire fan base is just gonna be bro that is the client this on some has been for a long time it's funny because i'm fan base is just going to be... Bro, that is the quiet this on-set has been
for a long time.
It's funny because I just happen to wake up
and I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
I better grab my gun just in case.
I'm on a boat. Why do I need my gun?
I just happened to luckily show up
at the right time and they had a spot for me.
You're just like, stress out.
Time to off some pirates.
But I mean, yeah,
everybody there
was awesome and I'll probably get shit
because like oh fuck we were there
and it's funny because
on our side of it internally to us like
the squadron shows up and everyone
wants to admit that we were there before
them so like all
the different stuff is no
mention of us or anything else
I love how you're so good at your
job that you just kind of like casually glossed over the whole three shots on three different people on a moving boat to another moving boat.
And the problem was solved.
That's a lot of variables for one.
That's what we train for.
I mean, we train it and we learned this over the years.
Like we train at such a high level that no matter what happens on target
or whatever is going on, it's less than what we train to.
So it's like, oh, not really stressful.
Like, okay, lasers.
It's fucking night.
You got nods.
You just hold a laser on a dude's head.
It's like, are you guys ready?
Okay, yeah, let's go.
How far of the shot was it?
I mean, I've drank a lot since then.
So somewhere in that 50 to 75 maybe that's still a damn good shot like that at night with i mean
it wasn't it wasn't i like how are you down yesterday you were now but you look kevin you
could hit that it's like standing pistol and pistol shot. Yeah. It was offhand. It was fucking Lamping it. Eyes closed.
Yeah.
It wasn't a difficult
shot at all.
And that's what we
trained.
We trained that shit
all the time.
So it's like
three,
two,
one,
execute and
done.
Dude,
that is
the fuck.
When you bring up
Jessica Lill.
No,
it was a thousand
yard shot.
That's what we're
going with.
Look at 2,500 meters there canadians
the wind was 45 miles per hour in a tsunami uphill both ways terry had just left the boat
because the wave hit so hard i was a captain of the boat
we're gonna have it animated like like a nightmare not uh the night before christmas
with uncle scrooge he's grabbing a candle but it's terry with his knobs
you make that shirt send me one
holy shit but it's i mean it's awesome because that's exactly what we trained to
do at at the command i was at and had an opportunity to be there and i just happened to be
luckily enough that i was there waking up with my guys and it just happened to be
from well from day one even before we jumped in it's like it could have been anybody. I got lucky it was
my team. Yeah, 100%.
You guys made that effort. And then
you met Tom Cruise when you saved him.
Yeah. Why? Wilson. Wilson is awesome.
Yeah.
Then everybody
clapped.
It was crazy.
He invested in a fruit company
you don't have to worry about money anymore
a box of chocolates was all good
it was cool because after all the debrief and everything else
we had to go back to Africa
we jumped back on the Bain Bridge
and then he goes with us because he's got to go back
get debriefed and then fly home
so I spent the next day or so with him
and he's all wigged out right
so we're playing monopoly i'm like he's like oh it's like just having the conversations hanging
because i know he's fucked up like i've already been on enough deployments i know like stress
level like where is that are you like trying to let him get the blue hotel i know what ptsd looks
like that's such a i'm sorry i didn't want to put him in jail. How did...
I'm just...
I'm just... I'm so curious
about how that trainer thought. Like, you watch it.
He went through a traumatic experience. Like, his life
has changed forever. You can tell the dude's fucked up
and you're like, Monopoly.
I'm still having a lot of fun with the race car.
You can make a lot of sense.
That is all you get.
It's... All it was is, like like keep his mind off it and let him just, we're just talking.
We're just like two dudes hanging out and talking through.
And then my guys would cycle in and spend some time with him.
And I got him on the phone with the psychic back home and working through some stuff.
But as we get him back, he goes home.
And then like two months later, we got our sealer in and he shows up with his wife and I'm there with my wife and
my kids and they all get, go hang out with Captain Phillips and we're like, Oh buddy,
or where were they?
And I haven't talked to him since then, but it was cool.
Cause he got to come back and meet all the other like community around what we do.
Is that, Oh, I thought you said something horrifying psychologist i've ever met terry holy shit
dude i am just like i didn't even know about the lynch thing like yeah
talk to some guys who were on the other side of that because it was an air defense unit so i'm
an air defender um that's what she was part of she's part of like some log five or third logics or what uh well
it was a logistical group but yeah they were but they were they were with uh one of the air defense
units but one of the guys who teaches at the thad schoolhouse was part of her unit and was there but
apparently there was something happened obviously that they got off on their own and everyone else
on the convoy went one way and kept on going and her and everybody else went
the other way and that's how they got ambushed with the convoy split it split because all the
dust kicked up somewhere he was telling me about it and it's funny because like looking back and
understanding what happened there just like the wmds right like oh there's wmds everywhere and
you go like where the fuck are they same thing with her like there's 400 feddine fucking fighters
and he should go to the hospital and there's there's remnants of them with her like there's 400 feddine fucking fighters and he should go to the hospital
and there's there's remnants of them being there and there's planting cells and all this stuff but
they weren't there so we planned for what we knew at the time not the story that we got the same
thing with like her getting an accident and people getting killed like it's the story that the
administration put out with the best knowledge they had at the time was not actually what happened what and she'll tell you she went on to uh i think
she was on andy's andy stump's podcast and kind of like her perspective what she knew happened
by what was released this 03 like we don't have like when we went in there it was we went in early
the recce team they flew us in and we're like living in the fucking with the
marines and this is the first time i ever met a marine one star in the shitty desert of iraq
sand blowing living out of a tent underneath a vehicle like in a junkyard launching howitzers
we get out of the humvee and there's a one-star general there like who the
fuck he's like this is my unit we're killing dudes the hardcore general out there just like
i fucking love you guys and we base everything for her off of just human like we don't have isr
we don't have signet or any of the stuff it's like people coming in and saying hey i saw this
or i saw this and it's funny i got to get a picture to her i don't know her but because we
drove by that that room then when in that podcast she talked about being in a little building by
herself for like 12 hours we drove by that building because we heard that something was
there drove by there's no there's nothing going
on so we're like oh man that must not be the right one so i got to get her that picture that
building but she most likely was there when we drove by by herself so we get over there just
hide that man i mean it's it's it is what i mean we didn't know anything no that's what's wild
about that time frame of those humans human intelligence. Like who's special, like special in Afghanistan.
Like, I don't like you.
So I'm going to make up some story about how much of a
terrorist you are.
And the agency is going to give me a bunch of money.
And they're going to, my friends are going to come kill you.
Like Mr.
Mr.
This is very good neighborhood.
It's like IDs everywhere.
And you're like, so it's like very unreliable.
And it's like single source, like the worst kind of stuff.
So it's like, yeah, well it doesn't look like anything everyone's keep on looking and that's which led you know the
doctor kind of led us to the hospital and that all worked because we hooked them up with the
camera and we yeah now we know what's going on no shit so you made a human isr
you said you hooked him up with a camera so like you said it's not it's not a gay guy
getting airmailed off the building i'm sorry that i had to explain that to everyone here
i got a really puzzled look.
Just go ahead and cut out how long that pause was.
No, you can leave it in.
It shows you.
Leave that in for sure.
You actually, for the podcast, you trained up on a new...
I did.
I did.
He was so excited.
What the fuck, Terry?
I was so excited.
I'm super pumped to hear what you have to say after Terry's story.
Yeah, of course.
How many people did you say?
And everyone's just going to fast forward
until Terry starts talking again.
I love bombs. They're awesome.
So, everyone here,
I assume everyone here is familiar
with the Bat Bomb, right?
From World War II.
Say you're not.
Did we say Bat Bomb? The Bat Bomb. bat bomb right from world war ii that we you did a video about say you're not what we said bat bomb
you can teach him because mine's not the bat bomb but here we go america weaponizes everything i
really love this dentist in world war ii ted devs start again today we're talking about the bat bomb
i didn't know i was like one of the
foremost leading experts on this on accident
so in World War II
they had this really unique
problem they had all these different programs trying
to develop essentially a weapon of mass
destruction at the time you had the
Manhattan Project over here
and then you had this other extracurricular
project where we were going to
strap napalm bombs
to bats oh fuck i'm in because the japanese lived in houses made out of paper and wood
so there was genius there was a dentist from kentucky who was also a part-time inventor he
had previously invented a fried chicken vending machine. Clearly a genius. Why am I first hearing about a fried chicken
vending machine? Bro, I got you.
We were living in the future back then, man.
We gotta go back.
We have so
digressed as a community.
So he gets this idea of like
this is going to be brilliant.
We're going to strap incendiary grenades
to bats and then
we're going to drop them off over
japan right before dawn and the bats are gonna go and they're gonna roost in attics in any nook
and crevice that they can possibly find and then two hours later the incendiary grenades are gonna
light up and it's gonna light the whole city on fire and burn that bitch to the ground i'm in
yeah i like it so he writes this down in a letter and sends it to the government never
would have made it anywhere but this dude just happened to know FDR's wife sends it directly to
the first lady she gives it to her husband and her husband forwards the letter to military
intelligence I don't it I can't remember the exact quote, but it's something along the lines of him telling his generals, this is not a madman.
I think he's got a perfectly good idea.
We should look into it.
So they start developing bat bombs.
They end up harvesting thousands of Mexican free-tailed bats from a cave right outside of San Antonio.
There's just thousands of these motherfuckers because they were the best bats that we could find apparently they make up a bomb that essentially looks like
a large colander that when you drop it it just kind of like opens up and all the bats fly all
over the fucking place and they go to test it and i'm so intrigued right now this is how we felt when you were talking yeah so they
they go to test it on this airfield out in the middle of the nevada desert and the army is running
the program at this point in time and they drop all these bats off and they're like bad news we
forgot we forgot to take the fuses out of the incendiary bombs so they almost burned the entire airfield to the ground
they blew up the general's fucking car so the army is like i'm out i want nothing to do with
this it works it's like proof of concept right right there was one marine general that heard
about it and just fucking showed up uninvited and he's like this is dope so he assumes control of the program i love marines dude yeah and uh
i saw the crayons are fucking awesome i did a whole video on it but like
literally if we if the manhattan project wasn't done in time and we resorted to bat bombs it
would have been like 12 times deadlier than the atomic bomb was just because it would have
like we killed more people in incendiary bombings in Japan than the atomic bombs did.
Think of the psychological factor.
Bats flying in with bombs?
The drone stuff now. Here's the thing. They wouldn't
even know it was bats because it was literally
just like they'd... Their house would just combust.
And it would literally just be the
whole city or town would burst into
flames at dawn. That is
horrifying. Hurry, shit!
There's a fire everywhere
everyone's just in terror after that moment there was a program that actually predated that and it
showed some promise and this is the one that i found out about oh no um and it was originally
it was called operation pigeon and then it was changed to operationCon, which stands for Organic Control.
What they did... America weaponized everything. We created GPS before
GPS. So what they would do
is they built a bomb
and the explosive was in the middle of the bomb
but in the nose they would have one to
three pigeons that had...
Three pigeons?
One to three is what I read.
It's like there was three and they would
teach these pigeons they would show them one is done like a picture of a uh of a target and every
time they would see the picture they would get a like a grain or something like that if they pecked
at it so at least a pellet yeah and eventually they train these things one of them was like
pecked like 10 000 times in 45 minutes and what they would do is steer the bomb onto target
as it was falling out of the air.
So they were using pigeons to create
glide bombs.
This is a real thing America did.
The three pigeons were averaged
out amongst the three,
so they would average out where the pecking was
to calculate the best
out of the three. It was literally pigeon democracy
on who we were going to fuck with a bomb.
I'm not going back to boot camp, but I wanted this
program.
It's so fucking cool.
Holy shit.
Off the podcast, and I can get it to
Chase or whoever's editing this,
you can see the video footage. They
recorded the shit of the pigeons pecking
at targets. It was actually
highly effective yeah it
showed real promise like there was a guy who was a behavioral scientist who like came up with the
concept it was like no no we can use pigeons and it it was pretty effective and i don't i didn't
get to why they canceled the program maybe you did uh but they said that it eventually moved on
to the bat bomb and then of course the manhattan project i did a video i forget why they canceled
that product they brought it back after world war ii for something else and then they just
microchips caught up and we went to guidance that way but yeah it's really hard to make money off
pigeons yeah and mike tyson was gonna be pissed i mean
he's gonna hit us so we'd cancel it yeah so that was the one that i learned about i was like we made a pigeon bomb like we it was just i googled i got bored and i was like weird missiles
and like all the rest of them i've already talked about so that was the only one i was like huh so
then i started googling pigeon bomb and i was like well let's see what this thing is all about
yeah i learned about the pigeon not something you want to do on your work computer no no
well i mean for me though being in the missile space they'd probably be like no he's doing
research and then it's fine and he's good yeah dude holy shit i love these are always my favorite
it is like hey we're learning all new tech across the board this is from you to you to you i'm just
like holy shit if it exists america either has or will weaponize it at one point in time.
We've tried everything.
I think the last podcast I was on, I was explaining all the things that we've made nuclear.
Literally everything you can think of.
America's made it nuclear.
From artillery to rocket launchers.
Britain made the nuclear chicken-powered landmine.
That one I didn't know about.
Yeah, Great Britain
made chicken-powered nuclear landmines.
You have to open up way more
than that.
I had a cold drink that I haven't
known about.
Terry, do you know about this?
No, I'm not familiar with the foul
landmines.
Or missiles, or rockets, or missiles or rockets watch out it makes a really big boom yeah anything anything bird related i'm not familiar with well
just so happens i'm an expert on aviation ordinance apparently avian um yeah great
britain was like i mean we we got to stop the stop the Soviets if they come rolling in with fucking tanks. We made a nuclear landmine.
The problem is that the tech is kind of faulty.
We don't just want to have it short out being cold and wet underground if we bury it and randomly having a nuclear explosion go off.
So what the fuck are we going to do?
So they basically came up with a plan.
We're just going to dig the holes.
We're going to have the landmines there ready.
We're going to keep them nice, dry, safe, out of the ground.
And then if the Soviets come rolling up, we're going to throw them in the ground, and then they're just going to be on a delay.
But it wasn't close enough.
Like, it would still – there was an air possibility that was – it was too great.
So, like, we've got to figure out a way to keep this warm
and when we can't have like a generator running to have power down there batteries weren't good
enough at the time so they're like i mean what if we just put chickens inside that motherfucker
and kept them warm with body heat and then when the chickens died the bomb goes off
so they just figured out how long a chicken could survive inside before it suffocated to
death and the body went cold.
That was the timer for a nuclear landmine.
I'm not sure I'm on board with that one.
That seems a little...
They weren't either.
You decided not to do it?
What's in your museum now?
I'm not with a nuclear landmine.
It's a giant landmine.
It's a fucking monster.
It's scenery bats.
That's fucking awesome.
You draw the line at nuclear chickens. It's a giant lamb. Incendiary bats. That's awesome. Yeah.
Are you drawing a line at nuclear chickens?
Nuclear cocks are not what I want to get to.
Are you familiar with the atomic artillery?
Atomic Annie?
I think so.
Okay.
That's the thing.
Spin me up.
Spin me up.
No.
Are you big fan of what?
Davy Crockett's the handheld.
The Davy Crockett's the handheld.
Do you know the Davy Crockett?
Holy.
Oh, man.
Dude.
Do you like history? Do you like history? Ohett's yeah do you know the david crockett holy oh man dude history do you
like history oh dude i'm fascinated by like stuff like this when guys are like deep dive into
subjects have you listened to that electrician i did just oh dude you're gonna go through his
videos like nick is it's one of the few content creators where it's like you're just you're hooked hooked and it's like okay well
40 to an hour of my life is now locked in i'm just gonna come down iowa we're just gonna like
sit and drink beers and talk bring it fucking bombs i got uh i got one of the best trick shot
guys in the country 30 minutes from my house we got a little gun show for pepper box you can come
out you can show us how to shoot we'll do all kinds of trick shit you know kevin you can come bring all your cool guns it'll be a great time yeah but uh
no whenever you want but uh the davy crockett is it's a recoilless rifle that shot a 55 pound
atomic warhead and it was mounted to a jeep so the strategy was literally roll up in a Jeep, plant that bitch,
fire it and drive as fast as you can.
But the operators realized that they weren't in the safe radius.
So they were just like,
where's my question?
We're just going to fire it while moving and keep going.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's one,
but then you have atomic art artillery,
nuclear artillery,
atomic Annie,
and there's videos of it.
I mean, it's from 29 miles away, and it hits, and you're like, oh, that wasn't that big.
And then the fucking screen just goes white for four seconds.
It's the biggest explosion you've seen.
She's barked at Fort Sill.
I actually took a picture in front of it for him.
So that was the right one now.
Yes.
My favorite part of that story is they made three
of them they fucking lost one for like 30 years huh and forgot or like didn't know where the fuck
it was somebody left it off the checklist they thought well they thought they thought find it
later i was like i'm gonna just scribble it in that's a little yeah lazy so many people on toronto were like where's that i
don't know i'm not doing hands across fort lewis today we're just gonna say it's good well they
they did they thought the one that was on display was the actual atomic annie which was the only one
that was ever actually fired at some point somebody got sent out to check the serial numbers and they didn't match.
In like the 80s.
Like 30 years after the... Could you imagine being the E4 just on profile for being a shit...
Go check the serial numbers on all the shit in the museum and then they didn't match.
How many times do you think he read that number?
Bro, he had to sit there all fucking...
Come over here.
There's no way that's not the number, i would have literally just like yep this thing weighs a hundred tons how
the did it get swapped i would have scratched out whatever number is scratched out and wrote
those bitches this is what it is now turnover time you're in charge not happening there's the
there's the atomic ante and then for air defense we've
made air defense missiles because during the cold war our theory was that uh if the russians had a
whole bunch of planes or bombs coming at us you could just fire one missile yeah so we built uh
the nike hercules and then the nike uh zeus and then the nike spartan those are all nuclear and
then we built the air right yep
surfaced air and then we also built a sprint missile yeah they're all nike uh the sprint
missile which was america was like how fast do we want a missile to go as fast as you can
fucking make it and it did mock 10 and under 10 seconds in 1964 like they had to put explosives
on the door on top because they couldn't build a mechanism to open the blast door fast enough to
let the missile out so So they just had C4
and they're just like, we're going to blow the doors open and this
missile's gone. It would start
glowing as it's going through the air because it was
combusting as it's ripping
through the air. That's awesome.
America builds such cool shit.
It's like our solution every time is
explode it to open it.
Can we bring the Department of Defense
back to the 60s?
I'm telling you. Make it awesome shit again?
You ever heard about like, do you know about Operation Chromedome?
Oh, I love Operation Chromedome.
Great, great one.
Oh, fuck off.
There is some interesting, after Chromedome, there is some interesting air defense news
that I can actually go over with you guys.
Some newer stuff.
So we'll jump out of the history.
I'll go to some newer stuff.
But you do Chr dome was literally just they were putting up
multiple b-52s for like was it 15 years yes it was like 15 years free because it's constant flight
yeah constant flight because the theory was like if they launched an intercontinental ballistic
missile and they theoretically they have the capability to take out every american airfield
so we're not going to be able to retaliate so the only logical thing to do is to have multiple b-52s with nuclear
ordnance doing hot laps around the entire continental united states and canada 24 7 for
15 years straight holy shit and if they ended up launching nukes they're like cool beeline straight
to russia return the favor yeah that was the plan the entire time. And that's where... Sounds American.
There was multiple times
where a B-52 went down
causing a nuclear incident.
We dropped him in Greenland. We dropped him all over
the world. There was one where...
God, it was the one that I did with Brandon over...
I think it was Greenland or
Denmark. We've had a couple
in the United States.
It was in North Carolina.
But the one that
really fucked up and people
got irradiated, it was really bad,
was one of the B-52
pilots was like, it's fucking cold in here. I'm just
going to open the exhaust vent directly from
the engine bay and caught the upholstery
of the cockpit on fire
and burned the fucking plane down from the inside.
And they had to bail out and ditch nukes
in the ocean.
And they weren't supposed to be
in that area at the time.
And Denmark is like, what the
green, whatever the fuck it was.
You're not supposed to be here.
And we're like, I mean. Yeah, we're America.
Yeah, but whatever.
So we do something about it.
Besides the fact, there's nukes over there.
Yeah.
In the water.
Mark,
it's on the map.
I think the U.S.
is just like
20,
29 nukes.
We are.
Yeah.
And we got fucked up.
Can't go there.
That's our snap.
He just said,
yeah,
the U.S.
has misplaced
29 nuclear weapons.
I believe it's 29.
That's it?
Yeah.
That's pretty good
record overall.
Yeah.
I'm thinking about
all the other shit we lose i mean there was one
that blew up in arkansas like not a nuke well this is actually proof to show you how stable
nuclear weapons are the warhead ended up like 700 yards outside the gate of the base when the
missile itself which was liquid state fuel leaked and then just went off and it literally just
exploded in the ground blew off the blast door and then the warhead itself ended up outside the gate of the base arkansas 1974 yeah we're gonna talk about
explains a lot about arkansas yeah we're gonna end up talking about the manhole cover oh god we are
the fastest object known to man dude i love before we get into that my favorite part was
homeboy tried to do a mathematical breakdown.
And then they commented, like, no, not today.
You fucked up X, Y, and Z.
And he's like, I didn't account for rotational.
Like, it's like, this is not a true story.
Because if you do it, and then he just accounted for it as, like, flying, like, actually a dome not spinning. He did the calculation if it was entering the Earth's atmosphere and not leaving it which drastically changes it because
atmosphere gets weaker as you leave not stronger so it like completely inverted
the equation so it was ever so much of the movie where how many knowing dick
skin yeah do that again let me stand up although he might kill me
Silicon Valley my boy that's one of the best. The dick to stroke ratio?
Oh, no.
But have you heard of the fastest manhole cover ever to exist?
No.
Tell me all about it.
I'm going to let Nick.
He tells the story way better than I do.
I love this because now nobody cares about me.
Oh, everyone still cares about you.
You're still the captain.
Absolutely.
So, you know, Cold War era.
We're testing out nukes.
I'm going to do a reset.
Go again.
Today we're talking about the nuclear manhole cover.
So basically, there's these scientists.
They're doing experiments.
And they're basically dropping nukes in the desert in Nevada.
And they're exploding them in the atmosphere.
And the people near that area understandably were like hey what if we didn't detonate nukes 60 miles from my
fucking house you know i'm kind of concerned for the health reasons and the government's like don't
worry we've done the research you're fine hint they weren't uh they're called downwinders they
got paid a lot of money by the government a lot of them fucking died um but regardless the government's like no you're fine and they're like i still
don't trust you and the government's like fine we'll quit detonating nukes in the atmosphere
and they're like and and in the desert they're like fine and in the desert and in the ocean
fine we'll quit detonating nukes in the ocean too so the government's like okay
here's the plan we're not
gonna lie we're gonna dig a big hole and detonate them underground what could possibly go wrong
you know what's better than having a firecracker go off in your hand having it go off in your
closed fist and what you know nothing could possibly happen um so they go they dig a five
i believe it's 500 feet deep hole and they took a
nuclear warhead and they were, they wanted to test the safety mechanisms to make sure
that they were going to function properly.
Allegedly.
Um, I think there's a way to test safety without actually launching a nuclear warhead.
Not in this time frame.
Not with some fucking E9s.
What the hell you know?
Not with the budget we got, hom so they privates walk towards the blast good so they uh
they bury this nuke and then they stick a 2 000 pound slab of concrete on top of it with a hole
and they detonate it and fucking straight blue flames launch 800 feet into the sky and they're like
huh neat so tomorrow they're like we should try it again this time we'll put a band hole
let's do it again this time we're drinking clearly we left our hand open a little bit
too much we got to make sure it's closed really tight next time.
So they go back the next day, same size nuke, and they put a 2,000-pound slab of concrete on top of it again. Then they get a 2,000-pound manhole cover that they bolt to the fucking bedrock to try to contain this blast to get the readings from it.
And then, you know, for some reason, for science, they also got a high-speed camera, the best one they could get at the time. Thank God. Pointed readings from it. And then, you know, for some reason, for science,
they also got a high-speed camera, the best one they could get at the time.
Thank God.
Pointed it at it.
And the nuke went off again.
The safety mechanism did not work.
And what had happened was, with a nuclear explosion,
it gets so hot so fast that it vaporized the concrete instantly
and created super hot gas which rapidly expands
essentially turned the planet into a fucking potato gun and proceeded to yeet that manhole
cover about 155 000 miles an hour that's the minimum speed because they only captured the
manhole cover in one frame of the
high-speed camera so they were able to do the math on like to to not be in two frames it had
to have been traveling i believe it was 155 000 miles an hour let's recreate it mocked
there's somewhere out we've started an intergalactic war because that
is still going somewhere out there in
the cosmos there's definitely left atmosphere absolutely yeah that was gone there's a debate
in science oh this is the math you guys are talking about yeah yeah america put the first
man-made object into outer space being this manhole cover before the ussr did sputnik
and they argue over whether or not it burnt up in the atmosphere or not but you did the math it was a second to break out of the atmosphere and moving at that speed and it's like i don't
know if it had enough time to burn up and most of it turned into like just a molten slug that's
going right towards mars yeah that's easily mock 40 or 80 because i mean the carmen line which is
the the notionally agreed upon like edge of space is 100 kilometers up but 150 000 miles an hour you're looking at uh what was it 986 what is mock
one mock is uh uh 740 miles an hour give or take i think uh again yes exactly so you have something
in the one once it hits the atmosphere now you have less resistance. That's why
the individual that jumped in the highest
skydive ever from the free fall
was from space. That dude
hit up to, it was like
900 miles an hour or something
which terminal velocity for a human
once you've stabilized.
Yeah, like homeboys
falling like 800 miles an hour and he's just like oh like he goes into it's hot in a spin yeah and
he catches himself and then his speed finally because he's yeah the atmosphere yeah the same
principle with your fake russian hypersonics i just want to point that out to you because they
don't have a power descent now let's talk about hypersonics so what point do we launch this
hunk of molten steel into space the aliens aren't like slow down guys
we're gonna come visit real quick and you guys are starting to get out of hand a little bit
the amount of ufo sightings that are around nuclear test sites are staggering
like pay to hunt a pirate was
hey aliens pay to come down and watch how stupid the u.s people are they're using those in their
atmosphere what the fuck yeah like back off there those launched shit at you you know it like you
never told you know aliens gave us that technology right you know what i mean like you know what i
mean it's like uh so you use your like... Here, here's some fireworks.
What's the Greek Sisyphus with fire?
Oh, yeah.
It's aliens.
Do it.
Give those monkeys nukes.
Just see what happens.
Just see what happens.
See what they do.
Holy shit.
Get out of the way.
2,000 pound manhole cover.
That's probably as close as to light
speed we've ever been yeah that's the object i think i think the only thing faster is one of
the shuttles we sent out like finally reached its max cruising speed and it's it is faster now but
that was like fairly recent oh jesus it might be like voyager or something yeah i think that's it
yeah that was anyways uh nuclear powered anti-air-to-air
missiles, I think you were trying to talk about.
So there's the nuclear-powered
one. Well, that was a theory.
Yeah, the SLAM. I thought we made that.
I don't think we ever fully built a production
model where they have small nuclear blasts
as the thrust.
Yep, I've heard of those.
That was actually the original
like, hey, how do we get faster? This is the way we'll explode spaceships. Oh mean that was actually the original like hey how do we get a
atmosphere faster this is the way we'll explode oh that's not the one i was thinking of yeah are
you thinking of that one the slam missile is the one that's uh nuclear propelled and it basically
goes up into the atmosphere and just does hot laps around the planet in perpetuity for like
50 fucking years and then if we ever needed to call it down it would go down and just smoke whatever we needed same principle as the chinese dfzf they're a hypersonic glide
vehicle that's they fire it up it goes however long it needs to be it stays in orbit perpetually
as long as it needs to and then because it's a hypersonic glide vehicle it dives and then kind
of flattens out and uh at a lower trajectory similar to a cruise missile profile and because
it's moving so fast like cruise missiles by and large are usually pretty slow like 500 miles an hour like about the speed
of a regular like fighter aircraft but the dfzf hypersonic glide vehicle claims never been
detected by any american or nato sensor uh because they don't really test them very often uh claims
to be able to travel like nap of the earth or map of the earth whatever you call it
over mach 10 so imagine a cruise missile profile which is hiding on the far side of the planet
because if you think it's flat your parents are related uh and right now and so that's that's why
cruise missiles are so dangerous as they hide on the far side of the curvature of the earth or they
use mountains which we call mass terrain or buildings or whatever and they they sneak up
on you that way that's why cruise missiles are really,
really dangerous to air defense systems.
Have you ever done anything on rapid dragon?
No,
no,
but I know we've,
we actually,
there's a newer design.
You may want to do something.
Have you seen the revolver we made for hypersonics?
It's in the back of a C 17.
Oh,
I have seen that.
Yeah.
They built a revolver in the back of a C 17 that like a parachute drops,
a hypersonic missile drops out, takes off, and then it just rotates another one into place and that's
out of the back of a c-17 fuck yeah because america america right there dude we are so
dangerous so but the uh like who wants to fuck with us i don't know why right now that i'm like
huh right now uh in like the air defense space guam is the most heavily air defended location on earth
like anywhere in the world guam is it and i think it's because the u.s is worried that like china
wants guam so like there's ages ashore there there's thad there uh there's um oh god there's
in risk of tipping over i have no idea but we did you guys got it i like it yeah we do we need if you
need to explain that joke and it's actual it was a congressman congressman congressman
very well educated and he what was the question he asked about the guam the island i think it was because of
u.s forces on guam if we staged too many there it would tip the island over
yeah islands are floating like this it's just like god damn it it's not
that's your i just like there's like a military four-star general like
is that all right where's aspen kutcher at I just like, there's like a military four-star general, like...
Is that real?
Where's Aspen Kutcher at?
Am I getting fucking pumped right now?
That's who you voted for, yes.
Pull that up, because it is literally like a four-star general, like... It was like a Senate hearing or something.
My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated
that it will tip over
and capsize.
You're fucking with me, right?
This is a retarded question.
No, Congressman, there is no possibility
that the West Coast is the city of the island,
don't you?
Sorry?
Like an ice cube.
The ice cube flipped over
politicians never cease to impress me
but they also
this is something I found kind of interesting
so they have the Aegis ashore there
and Aegis is hands down
it's Skynet
it is the best air defense system in the world
and I say that knowing I'm a patriot guy
Aegis it's a bad bitch
there's a reason the
hoothies aren't defeating it right now it's in the red sea and it's just stop it stop it
fucking keep your missiles down like they're just playing with you at this point um but they took a
mark 41 vls the vertical launch system that sits on the ages uh one of my favorite vertical launches
yeah it's all the big cells that have the missiles in them okay not quite as sophisticated as the back of the toyota lander
and go bang i hit ford's lord assist
jesus so they they took one go ahead i was gonna say i'd pay money to give them a vampire system
vampire that i'd be all about when i get like level four cancer and it's like it's gone
fucking load me up i'm working everything i feel like we could probably cure cancer if we just went
to the dod and asked him to okay here's the deal i need you to make really tiny cruise missiles
that'll attack cells that we can inject into people people
My ass is on fire, what the fuck? No, that's when the DOD comes back. Are the cells
brown?
How much oil do the cells have?
The cancer's over.
It's over.
Here comes Halliburton. Oh man. so the mark 41 vls which they have standard missile twos threes uh and sixes in there's no
logic to the naming convention because threes reach further than sixes which reach further
than twos it's fucking weird but they put standard missile threes in there,
and they were able to recently annihilate,
quite literally and effectively,
a simulated mid-range ballistic missile.
And they did this on purpose,
because Russia fired that mid-range ballistic missile
that hit Kiev, and Russia's like,
we're the best ever.
So the U.S. was like, cool, we're going to show show you that it's not and they fired one of those at guam and aegis smoked
it 200 miles away from guam because aegis is a bad bitch um by the way google says aegis's maximum
range is like 173 miles so i guess that's gonna get updated on google here yeah lucky yeah uh
and then lucky shot what they did also is they took it.
It's sitting.
It's cool as shit if you see the picture.
They took the VLS, and normally they just have it sitting upright,
which is how it is on the ships, and they tilted it,
which doesn't seem like a big deal until you realize that tilt can probably
give it an extra 50 or 60 miles of range because instead of going up and over,
now it's just going over in that direction, which saves a lot of fuel.
So we just be doing it.
Like that's what Uncle Sam be doing all the time.
That's a dude.
It's more terrifying.
How do you feel about like how you see warfare now
where it is drones?
And that is where you,
that is where PTSD is coming from
is just that sound of death.
Like I watch that shit on all the different feeds,
like conflict observer and all this.
I'm like, that would be fucking scary.
Just following around, just stalking you.
I see you.
There's nothing I can fucking do about you.
There's some 14-year-old Russian that grew up playing video games.
It's like, fuck you, America.
I'm just going to fucking murder you.
There's no value in life.
He's just like, oh, wow, this is how video games work.
I'm going to do it.
It's scary as shit. It is a complete disconnect because you're not pulling your trigger you're not doing anything you would have a screen separation exactly what he's been doing
since he was five playing video games yeah and there's no emotion there's like a screen's a
screen whether it's a video game player or a person to him it doesn't matter and they just
thermal ones are the scary the scary part with
that is in theory like if you were actually gonna like do drone warfare like that on an industrial
scale like if america launched that program you could literally or anybody yeah you could literally
just like to eliminate that entirely it's um you remember when they did a death by firing squad in
ohio like a couple years back it was like the a death by firing squad in ohio like a couple years
back it was like the last death by firing squad the dude requested it but the way they did it was
they had five shooters with high-powered rifles they were all going to shoot center mass one of
them had a blank and they didn't know who it was that way all five shooters could tell themselves
they shot the blank yeah it was like when you would originally when two people would pull the electric chair exactly it was hey one doesn't do
it that way no one suffers the consequence like ah that weighs on me it is oh one of us killed i
don't know who did you could literally have one drone pilot out of the 50 playing arma 3 and
everybody gets to tell themselves i'm playing the video game these aren't real people it's like you have a red enders game exactly same concept same fucking idea and
if you don't know an injury's game it is the entire spoiler alert it's like 30 years read
the goddamn yeah at this point uh it is children's soldiers are like they're they're going into this
military school at the age of five they're genius geniuses. And by the age of 12, they're disconnected from everything.
They're working with their unit, and they're playing war games.
But they're also playing this simulation with ships that they get to maneuver around and fight the enemy in this video game.
And they do this for years until the final.
Ender's looking around.
He has all his team
the dragon team around him basically he feels like he's on the final level yeah he's literally
going into this this is the final level all the adults and generals are watching i gotta pass this
fucking test and it is okay we're gonna do this oh fuck he this is the only kid that can do this
again he's 12 years old and finally he's like oh i'll sacrifice all these by pinning one ship in the middle that has this
device that will kill everything all the other ships will protect it and it will hit the planet
and then this d device will destroy everything around it consumes all life and then they hit it
and then everything dies and then the adults are freaking
out and the kids are like ah we won takes a moment like the kids are like what the are going
on the dots are crying they're weeping they're giving the kids hugs and then he finds out it's
like hey those were actually soldiers and that you were playing those were sold or fighters yeah yeah
so that is the moment it was like you killed all the aliens but you were playing those were soldier fighters yeah yeah yeah so that is the moment
it was like you killed all the aliens but you sacrificed all those people without knowing it
because you thought it was a video game at that moment and that is like and it hits ender and then
they have like multiple stories that roll out from that it is oh shit great book dude such one of the
best books i've ever read yeah that kid's like the trauma he goes through and he doesn't know it like he's just a tool for the government and they don't tell him any of the trauma he does and
then finally at the end of the book he's like uh this sucks i just he exterminated an entire other
race yeah yeah yeah yeah xenocide and you fuck. It's such a good book series.
Ender's Game is good. Ender's Shadow, I personally think, is better.
That's the second one. It's about being a speaker for the dead.
It was okay. I wasn't a huge fan.
But yeah, the series is pretty good.
Good book.
If you haven't, like, it's a good...
And it's like a high school book.
It hits fucking hard.
But it's brutal. Like, don't watch the movie. The movie's ass.
Yeah.
About Guam. Can we tip it over yes guam is the funniest way america's ever
taken over a country ever so i did a video on it i i know you haven't seen it um i'll recap it
um if you've already seen the video sorry you know how this this is gonna be worse because i'm drunk this time and i haven't read it in six months um so basically japan took over guam
from america during world war ii and america goes or sorry no way before that sorry spanish
american war spain is in control of guam america enters the spanish american war they send out
a bunch of ships to go capture guam from the spanish because we're at war with them and we
want to capture all the territory like the Philippines.
And they sent out this massive fleet.
They're supposed to go back to the Philippines.
Yeah.
Put a kite on that bitch.
We're going to sail across the seventh sea to go fuck people up.
Right.
So this group gets a special mission.
They're only supposed to open this letter after they get out to sea.
They're like, hey, you're making a detour.
You got to go take out, capture Guam and then to the philippines and capture it so they go out
they get to guam there's this massive fort there's supposed to be this entire spanish armada there
these guys got to go fight everybody's pumped and they get there it's foggy they can't see shit
and they're like they see a ship off in the distance in this fog and they're getting closer
they're getting closer it's a japanese ship and we're totally friendly with them at the time so we're like what the fuck
so they get closer and there's this massive fort that's supposed to have all these cannons
so they just start opening fire on this fort the fort's not returning fire
the fuck so they just like kind of sail right into the harbor and the captain's like
drop anchor i guess so they drop anchor and they're just chilling they just like kind of sail right into the harbor and the captain's like drop anchor, I guess.
So they drop anchor and they're just chilling.
They're like getting boarding parties ready for their whaling boats to sail out.
And they see what they assume are troops forming up on the beach.
Like, okay, we're going to fight them on land.
Get ready, boys.
And then these guys hop in canoes and start paddling their ass out to the boat.
And they're like, what the fuck is going on and they get out and it's a whaling boat that comes out
to the ship that has all of their government on it except for the governor and they're like
hey what are you guys doing and they're like uh we're we're at war capturing your island and they're like what apparently spain just
fucking didn't tell them that we were at war and they had no clue and they're like they originally
came out there to apologize because they thought when they opened up fire on that fort they thought
that they were doing like the fire the cannons as a salute for entering their port and they're like
oops sorry for that yeah they're like sorry we couldn't we couldn't return your salute we don't
have any cannons or gunpowder functioning right now and they're like oh but you're you're like
the whole government they're like yeah pretty much except for the governor cool you're our
prisoners now they held the prisoners they sent like one guy back with a
letter to the governor like hey we're running this bitch now this is mine yeah and the governor's like
forced to surrender so then the captain's sitting there like what the fuck do i do
i captured this in minutes a country yeah like a country and uh there's like a couple of spanish soldiers there's like
20 spanish soldiers they all surrender they take them there's like a local militia and the captain's
like the national guard can go home i don't give a shit just off and then one of the spanish
soldiers is like actually i'm from guam and i'm part of the militia and he's like fuck it you can
go home too that guy lied he just kicked out of it so he bounces he goes home
there's this one another boat comes up and it's like the local merchant tycoon that runs like all
the business on the island and he speaks perfect in english they're like you're white what the
fuck's the deal what explain yourself he's like oh i'm an elevator operator from chicago and they're like what he's like yeah i married
some guam chick and we moved out here and now i just kind of like run the business side of the
island and the captain's like well what the fuck do we do and he's like you know what
and like shit's getting rowdy like the sailors were expecting a fight they didn't get a fight
now they're like they're buying monkeys from the locals they got monkeys on the boats and shit
buying bananas and all kinds of crazy shit going on the cast sailors i gotta get to the philippines
to go capture that and he's like fuck it american dude congratulations You're the president now. I got to go. And he just dips and leaves.
And just like the one English dude is apparently running the country now.
And we just don't show back up for like six months.
We show up.
They're like, we just showed up to get coal because they were coal burning ships at this point in time.
And the captain that's just there to get coal and refuel shows up and there's like a civil war
about to break out between the faction that's now being run by this one ex-american dude who
thinks he's in charge and the rest of the people from guam and they're like about to have this huge
fight so he comes in like no no the Americans
in charge take all their guns alright we're
going to leave again and just
for another six months
it was like a year and a half before
they sent out and had like a military
commander in charge of this
island
so yeah that's how we got Guam
that explains a lot about Guam
but it's still not going to tip over, right?
We're safe now.
Yeah, we took all the monkeys for the counterweight.
We're fine.
The monkeys are going to do the counterweight.
All the soldiers on the other side.
We have monkey ballast.
Holy shit.
On that note, we're going to close this episode out.
That has been two hours?
Damn.
Dude, yeah, that was more than two hours. Holy shit. Dude, Nick, close this episode out. It's been two hours. Damn. Dude. Yeah. That was, yeah.
More than two hours.
Holy shit.
Dude,
Nick,
close this out.
You beautiful zone bitch.
I'm Cody today.
You're Cody.
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Super ugly Cody.
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dude truly thank you i was fucking like very rarely are we just so
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