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Starting point is 00:00:00 The first time I learned about the ATF, I did a show called Narcos. He played Pablo. You have the company that perfected firearms decades ago and has moved on to horse cum. Dude, I can't wait to make my new rap group, Guns N' Cum. Oh my god, the Delta guy gonna spill all the secrets. Ozzy stuck the Mars freaking rover. Sarah! Hollywood stories.

Starting point is 00:00:17 How many kids in that basement? Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Say hi to Eli. He's racially ambiguous. Brandon, his hair is fucking fabulous. Donut, a dark joke disposition. And there's a fat electrician. Welcome to Unsubscribe.

Starting point is 00:00:41 Was that right? Yeah, I'm going to love this. Three. Are we started with this? Hold on. Wait. He's got to get his Yeah, I'm going to love this. Three. Hold on. He's got to get his can opener. Three, two, one. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe Podcast.

Starting point is 00:00:55 I'm joined today by Eli Doubletap, Fat Electrician, AJ Buckley, Tyler Gray, Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator. Thank you so much for being here. We just drank a lot before this. No, never. We're professionals.

Starting point is 00:01:09 Yeah, we totally didn't just film the demo leaving episode right before this. We didn't chug, no big deal. Drink six beers and do a shot about it. I know, I was like, oh, this is going to be a fun one. That was a Godspeed for both of you. We're going to be passed out halfway through the episode. How do you guys feel about Karl Marx? No, I'm just kidding.

Starting point is 00:01:28 No, seriously. AJ and Tyler, what are you guys doing in town, man? Oh, wait. Did you open, Steven? Yes. Oh, you just opened it. Five seconds ago. Did he say all our names?

Starting point is 00:01:37 No, it's a TBI for sure. He said all our names. Hold on. I'm going to put a second Purple Heart on your license plate. That's gone already. I was like, Cody's still gonna do the introduction. It's like Eli's brain is like an Etch-A-Sketch. Is that the Mandela Effect? It was the wrap-up.

Starting point is 00:01:54 He did the whole thing! He did the whole thing! He did everything that's gone! It's like talking to Eli is like watching the movie Memento. It's funny because I remember thinking, wow, Cody nailed that intro. That was a good intro. Cody's intro is done. Yeah, tattoo that. Cody's intro is done.

Starting point is 00:02:11 I just wrote the note for you. Remember we opened the cans, right, when I did my opener? Yeah, cans are open. Remember that time we all silently agreed to gaslight Eli into thinking we've done the intro, but we actually didn't? That was a good time. Go ahead. Okay. Cody, do the intro. Oh, actually didn't. That was a good time. Go ahead. Okay. You did the intro.

Starting point is 00:02:27 Oh, see, now I was- Hi, everyone. Welcome. Dude, I didn't know. No, we know 100% in the realm of possibility. Eli, we did the intro. I don't know. Yeah, join the-

Starting point is 00:02:39 I've been good. You guys should definitely- I know the kind of thing that happened. You literally just gaslit him that you were gaslighting him. Join the military. Oh, honey, you love being gaslit. So glad you can't get a purple heart from TBI, which 100% should be a thing. Not yet.

Starting point is 00:03:00 Is that still a thing? They were talking about it for a while. I don't know if they did that, but they were talking about it for a while. I don't know if they did that. They were talking about it for a while. Freddy brought that up. He's like, why don't they get Purple Hearts for that? I was like, that is actually a really good idea. I'll tell you why they don't.

Starting point is 00:03:14 Because everyone would get one. You'd come out and be like, I don't remember anything. They're like, well, Purple Hearts. To be fair, that's like World War II. They're like, man, so many people are getting shot. We need to change the criteria for Purple Heart. To be fair, that's like World War II. They're like, man, so many people are getting shot. We need to change the criteria for Purple Hearts because everybody would have one. They're like, dude, shot twice.

Starting point is 00:03:34 It's like, well, you still got hurt. That still counts, I feel like. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so we have Tyler's back. Our boy Tyler, the fucking reigning king of the top episodes on Hounsum. That's shocking to me. What did you guys film to have the

Starting point is 00:03:48 raining episode? What did you guys do the first time? Oh, Tyler casually was like, you guys ever seen a CQB AT4? And we're like, uh, what? It's like Thermobaric RPGs or whatever you guys are talking about. It was cool as shit.

Starting point is 00:04:04 And Tyler was like, well, you didn't have one? It's like, yes. Yeah, that's why our face is like. That's not the technical term. That was our joke term for it was the CQB AT4, which is actually a really cool design. It's got a water thing of water in the back. So it basically goes off and the counter charge blows back water. It's a pretty sweet design.

Starting point is 00:04:27 That's pretty awesome. Every 11 Bravo has used one. I forget this short. The shock on his face when a medic from the National Guard never got given a CKB AP for a run. No, I'll tell you exactly why that episode did well. It was because he put the title, Military Secrets?

Starting point is 00:04:51 Question mark, question mark. That's where it came from. With the Delta logo. Yeah, with the Delta logo. So 80% of the views are from China. Oh my God, the Delta guy gonna spill all the secret you guys see any of those fucking shot show dude every year it blows me away that's even allowed

Starting point is 00:05:14 what oh yeah you guys are gonna have no what'd you say i didn't hear so they're gonna kick out uh eli duckworth for uh making glock horse cum jokes at SHOT Show. But they'll allow like 80,000 Chinese nationals to show up and take pictures of all the new products from the American gun industry. Like you straight up will have Chinese nationals all over the show floor. Like taking pictures. There was one dude this year that had a 3D scanner. No way.

Starting point is 00:05:43 Like brazen. Dude, this is a true story i so well i got invited to go run a booth this is uh 2013 14 i don't know in uh at iwa do you guys know what iwa is yep he was like the german shacho um and it was a very advanced pistol that i was at the booth for and and it was it cool. It's a pretty revolutionary design. Anyways, I was there. What was it? Well, at the time, it was the Strike I, the Arsenal Strike I, which has a revolutionary feature, but they screwed up a lot of things.

Starting point is 00:06:17 The pistol's been, now it's being made by, I think a friend of mine actually bought the rights to it. But anyways, it's a very revolutionary design if you look at the way the gun works uh it's got a low uh low borax borax is very actually the lowest there is anyways um and the way it's got a locking a rotating locking block it's a pretty cool pretty unique design and um so i'm working at the booth and i'm like showing how it works i got my little spiel this dude comes up obviously Chinese how could you tell so I've been quite extensively throughout Asia pretty good at wrecking I can I can tell the difference I put it

Starting point is 00:06:56 this way I can tell the difference between Hong Kongese and mainland Chinese some I'm pretty super good what exactly so you're like super racist. I'm super good. I'm super good at it. What exactly are you? I want to call you a slur. So I'm like looking at this guy. I'm like, this is definitely mainland Chinese. This is not even Hong Kongese. And basically, dude, you bust out this camera and just starts like taking photos.

Starting point is 00:07:23 And I mean like taking it apart photos. And I came over and I was like, what? He didn't even speak english enough to like tell me what he was doing and i literally had to get secured to get him away but he was going around just taking guns apart and just taking you know every fucking 400 images of photos so they can recreate it just so next year we can see the same pistol at the holosun booth yeah yeah exactly exactly brand the you did the joke with the ones that wanted your photo well so yeah it's the one that nick uh nick made us tell last year the story where uh we had some like chinese youtubers that came up to us at shot show and like they want to take a picture and like as a joke we're all like tipped as hell so we we uh we go in for the photo and like right as they're taking the picture we go

Starting point is 00:08:06 fuck communism and the guy taking the photo goes deadpan and takes the sd card out of the oh my so we probably got beheaded dude you guys the only time i've seen like they took the the card out of the camera like oh but this year the joke was every time we'd see a group of Chinese nationals, I'm just fucking sick of it at this point. You guys are like, we're basically in a cold war with China at this point, and we're just allowing their people to come in and take pictures of all our new shit. Come on.

Starting point is 00:08:36 Are we trying? No. The answer is no. We would just come up and we'd see a group of them walking by or trying to take pictures of shit, and we'd just lean in next to their camera and go Tiananmen Square. Can we... What do we call them?

Starting point is 00:08:53 West Taiwan. They really like it when you call them that. I just got back from Taiwan. I was literally there in December, actually. You go everywhere. Yeah, I've been around recently I hate traveling but I love it too I know by the time you're calling me it's like 2 in the morning Mike I was asleep I was like midday for me Australia New Zealand we're trying to connect you know it's not like yeah I feel like we brushed over something that I feel like I need more

Starting point is 00:09:26 information on. Kick out a SHOT show for some horse cum? What? I'm not sure. Are you familiar with Glock? I've heard of Cedran. A little bit? So they primarily

Starting point is 00:09:42 make their income manufacturing In Georgia? No. Like what product? Oh, So they primarily make their income manufacturing. In Georgia? No. Like what product? Oh, Dirk Glock. Firearms? Yeah. Would you guess the other product that they're known for selling? I guess it's horse cum?

Starting point is 00:09:58 Equine semen. Correct. What? That's a full ass thing. What? That's a lot of money, man. That's a full-ass thing. What? Yeah. What? There's a lot of money, man.

Starting point is 00:10:09 Glock sells pistols and cum. They don't like it when you joke about it for some reason. We do. No. They legitimately, like, you know, that's like a really higher tier thing in Europe where they're just like, oh, yeah, well, you've made millions and millions of dollars. I guess, obviously, you're going to get into the racehorse game. Interesting. Oh, racehorse cum.

Starting point is 00:10:24 Yeah. So they legitimately have a fucking equestrian section of Glock. That's not regular horse gun. That's weird. Guns and cum. It's the good horse gun. Guns and cum. I can't wait to make my new rap group, guns and cum. That's crazy.

Starting point is 00:10:43 Glock started actually by making knives yep really oh shit yeah so the so interesting story they first made knives they still make the glock knife but on the glock knife is a plastic candle that's uh injection molded and that's why his gaston glock's experience with plastic came from making those knives and the plastic scabbards. He was like, I know plastics well. I'm pretty sure I could make a gun out of it. And the interesting thing I'll say about this with the firearms industry or every industry is, you know, when Gaston Glock was like, hey, I think I can make a slide out of plastic. Everyone was like, that's insane.

Starting point is 00:11:22 A frame has to be metal. Plastic frames will never work. It just goes to show you and Gaston Glock's like, eh, I've been working with plastics for quite a few years. I think you're wrong. And then boom, now everyone, it's like innovation. I'm going to tell you right now, here's a fact about a product. Anything is possible, period. Anything is possible. And anytime any industry in the gun industry is excessively bad at it they and the movie industry is the same they go oh that can't possibly work and then someone goes i think it can they do it it works and then everyone goes let's all do that okay

Starting point is 00:11:56 every fucking brand now to include brands that made only metal frames are making plastic frames but it started with gaston uh glolock all because he was just like, I, I think I can do that. Every time you go to shot show and there's a new Glock killer, it looks exactly like a Glock. Oh, she's exactly the same.

Starting point is 00:12:15 Striker fired pistol. It's like, yeah, no shit. That's like, he came up with that in 1983. Good work. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:21 Congrats. You're half a century behind. You guys laugh, but Sig figured out how to make them shoot themselves. So he's a real innovator here. Their collaboration with Isaac Newton. Wait, who's shooting? What they're shooting? That was a P320 joke, how they just have a tendency to go off on their own.

Starting point is 00:12:39 Really? Man, you can drop. There was like videos. I know. The Taurus was having that issue. Like the Taurus Breda copy. It was like in Brazil. Yeah. They threw it on the ground. It was like videos i know the tourist the tourist was having that issue like the bretta the tourist bretta copy it was like in brazil yeah like threw it on the ground so for uh for fat pews me and pew views show we're doing um a p320 versus a glock 19 and we're gonna use blanks obviously but we're gonna have the loaded gun and we're going to see what it takes to actually

Starting point is 00:13:06 make them go off by dropping them. We have a grain silo that's like four stories high that we're already going to go and throw the Glock and the P320 off of while they're loaded to see if they go off. I guarantee you I can overhand a Glock in a brick wall as hard

Starting point is 00:13:21 as I can. A Glock has three drop safeties built inside of it. It's impossible to make a Glock go off on wall as hard as I can. It won't go off. A Glock has three drop safeties built inside of it. It's impossible to make a Glock go off on accident. It's very well designed that way. God, I have so many questions. What a lot of people don't know is that it's illegal to import. I believe this is correct. It's illegal to import a pistol that doesn't at least have one safety

Starting point is 00:13:37 or a certain amount of redundancies on the safety. Probably, yeah. That makes sense. I know Glock has three the way the pistol is designed that's why it's stupid that glock lost the contract for the new service pistol to whatever they named the p320 it's the same m17 so like m17 beat it out for the military contract for the sole reason that glock refused to put a manual safety on a Glock because it's just fucking quadruple overkill. You know, I mean, so I'll tell you another Glock story because I'm a gun nerd and people

Starting point is 00:14:15 are going to learn something. So Glock, here's the interesting thing. And this is why Glock is Glock is because the reason that he made a Glock was because at that time, again, this is the late seventies, early eighties. And he looked at it and you had two pistols. You had a revolver and you had an automatic, all automatics. I mean, all right. There's exceptions to everything, but most of the vast majority of semi-automatics had a manual safety and there were massive statistics on how many times somebody drew and didn't remember to take off the

Starting point is 00:14:51 manual safety and therefore didn't fire around and were killed. So Gaston Glock being the genius he was, he's like, now that didn't exist for a revolver. You pull out a double action revolver for it, pull the trigger, it fires. So he's like, now who was using revolvers at the time? Cops. Glock wanted to make a gun for the military and law enforcement. So he's like, I want a gun that's semi-automatic, but when you pull it out, it just fires. You don't have to manually train to put off a safety. So he was like, well, why don't I put the safety into the trigger? And he did that so that you could just pull and worry about shooting, not have to extra train.

Starting point is 00:15:33 So really the Glock was designed to reduce the amount of training it took to fire a service weapon in combat. That's why SIG is ahead of everybody in being innov innovators because you don't even have to pull them out they're like they're like how do we how do we one-up glock what if you don't even need to shoot it eli saw the smirk and knew exactly where that was but but so the last part of that is the reason that the Glock replaced, specifically the Glock, replaced double action revolvers for law enforcement is because it was the same in training. You pull it out, you pull the trigger, it fires. There wasn't a need to retrain a department in semi-automatics to replace their revolvers. And that's why Glock, I i mean one of the reasons glock is so prevalent in law enforcement do gun companies do they do recalls then if there's

Starting point is 00:16:29 if there's an issue with yeah yeah so is that is that a recalled gun then clock now well no for the sake for the sake so uh there's been a couple they also have i mean it's not like a jeep you know take your gun to the gunsmith uh they'll be like oh we fixed it blah blah but i mean the reason all the recent ones are like i've seen the videos where it's like a cop just like literally talking to somebody and his gun just goes off and they're like what the fuck oh yeah like in the holster in the holster completely holster gun and he's like talking and it's just like security cam footage and the gun just goes off and clock is like are you sure that wasn't a pager he re-holstered that sorry yeah sig is like he re-holstered that the wrong way wow whoa my bad gaston god rest his name but never let that fly

Starting point is 00:17:19 but it is security footage of it sitting in a holster and going off, dropping, going off. And then people trying to prove it doesn't go off when they drop it and it going off. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was a whole thing. And then they're like, send those back in if you want. We'll fix it.

Starting point is 00:17:37 If you want. It's just like a known thing now that happens. And all Sig fanboys are just okay with it. It's pretty funny. I don't dislike Sig. I have a couple other guns. It's a perfectly acceptable gun but let's just not pretend

Starting point is 00:17:54 like that's not a prevalent issue. You have two options. You have the company still trying to perfect firearms and you have the company that perfected firearms decades ago and has moved on to horse cum. I don't like that. Which we didn't know. and you have the company that perfected firearms decades ago and has moved on to horse cum. Where do you get all that gun from? I don't know. Which one do you use?

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Starting point is 00:19:28 Unsub at shopmando.com. Boost your confidence from head to toe with Mando. AJ, what is your background and everything? I was born in Dublin. Hey. Hey. Damn it, show's not here. I left Ireland when I was six and went to Vancouver, Canada. I was in Canada until I... Hey. Hey. Damn it, show's not here. Yeah, I left Ireland when I was six and went to Vancouver, Canada.

Starting point is 00:19:48 I was in Canada until I was 17. Then I booked a movie in Vancouver. It brought me down to LA. And then just, yeah, my career just sort of started there. I always wanted to be an actor and stuff since I was five. That was the only thing I ever wanted to do. But I went down to Los Angeles and went out for an audition when i was there we got an agent and uh ended up booking the first job there and then it was it was it wasn 2002. And then I think I hit a bit of a dry spell, lived on my car

Starting point is 00:20:31 for about a year and a half because I was too old to play like a cop, too old to play like high school, too young to play coppering like peach fuzz. I just started to shave. And then it kind of went through this really sort of rough spell got messed up with the wrong people and like everything hollywood's like this pretty flower that just like eats you alive and watch this end you home so then i just figured out i was like should i go home and you know get a nine to five which is nothing wrong with nine to five but like no it i'll just you know can Canada was the issue, not the 95 job. Yeah, Canada was cool back then. But, yeah, and then.

Starting point is 00:21:08 The future 51st state. Exactly. And then I was, it was probably 2007 when things sort of turned around again. I was at like $32.95 to my name. I still have it. I got the bank receipt from Wells Fargo that day. And I got a call. I booked CSI New York.

Starting point is 00:21:22 It was at the time when the CSI New York was the third of the franchise that came out. And then I booked a series regular on that. And then my sort of life changed forever. Yeah, with Gary Sinise was the star of that. I did nine seasons of that with Gary. I don't know if you guys have ever met Gary or ever had him on the show. He's a rad dude, though. Honestly, he is the greatest.

Starting point is 00:21:43 I really mean this. There's not many human beings on this planet that I just – he is the most selfless human being ever. He would do things during CSI New York that there was no cameras there. He would help that to build houses. He would just do things out of his own pocket, and it was never cameras. He just, the amount of stuff that he's done to the veteran community, and then how the foundation is run, the Gary Sweeney Foundation, and that all the money goes to the people.

Starting point is 00:22:12 Like, you'd actually see the amount of how, just everything that he's done and what he represents. He's sort of the gold standard, I feel, of foundations. Did all of that, like, kind of come from the Lieutenant Dan role? Yeah, he was really, he was really, he comes from a military family, and yeah yeah but the lieutenant dan role really did that and he started the gary that lieutenant dan band and then um he i mean every other weekend he's at a hospital or he's at some event or he's at some things you know so i when we got sealed to

Starting point is 00:22:39 him i had called him up it was like hey how do i how do i get really get involved in this like actually in 2008 he sent me he i was like i want to how do I really get involved in this? Actually, in 2008, he sent me. I was like, I want to go overseas. So he sent me in 2008. I went over to Iraq. And, dude, it was crazy. I had no fucking clue what. You went in 2008?

Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah, right when you guys were doing the push to Afghanistan. Yeah, that was still too early. I stayed at Camp Liberty at Saddam's Palace there. I think the three-star general was like General Jacoby, I think his name was. That was early 2008? Yeah, yeah. No shit. But it was crazy.

Starting point is 00:23:12 I went there. We flew into Kuwait, and then we took a C-17 to Delta FOB. And I'll never forget this flying in. We all had a person that was with us, like uh team guy or whatever like this is your your buddy like and i was like oh wide-eyed and this guy's like oh fuck i got this idiot that's so wild dude you're going into a cop like this is serge iraq this is not that's what's more wild to me i'm like oh man no clue and the guy the guy's like uh he's like he's like, are you scared to play flying or anything? I'm like, no, I'm good.

Starting point is 00:23:47 I'm fired up. This is great. He's like, okay. He's like, just get ready. He's going to get weird. I'm like, why? And just as he said that, it did that like strategic dive down to land. Below radar.

Starting point is 00:23:56 Map of the Earth, baby. I was like, oh my gosh. I thought I was fucking dying. I didn't know what was going on. There's like flares going. It's like aliens. And it's like, you know, he's like on the drop ship.

Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah. So we went and stayed. We flew into, we flew into Dunstapob and then we blacklocked to Camp Liberty. And we stayed there. We were there for 15 days.

Starting point is 00:24:19 And then we would go out each day to different fobs and hang for a day or two at the fobs. Some days we got, there would be a sandstorm and we'd have to stay but it was awesome like it was a real really cool thing i remember one of the days going over solder city we uh nice i will never this is like true story i literally pissed my pants like literally pissed my fucking pants in front of a bunch of people

Starting point is 00:24:40 i was so scared i'm such and we're going over in the blackhawk and we had like blackhawks and there's some apaches and we're going over and i guess whatever happened they picked up that there's some radar something was on it and our blackhawk like turns and fucking flares start going and i don't know what's happened on but everything went quiet on the comms and these were they were firing shit dude i pissed I pissed myself. I was like, I thought, and I had like a camcorder, like a tour, like, oh my God. And I dropped him,

Starting point is 00:25:07 and I'm like, I don't want to die. I mean, fair enough. And I'd never heard a.50 cal go off before. Like, this is way before a SEAL team. So I'd never,

Starting point is 00:25:16 I didn't know what the hell. And then it was crazy when we landed, the kid that like shot the gun, he's like, he watched the show, he's like, can I get a picture with you?

Starting point is 00:25:24 Well, he had that Halo looking mask on. Yeah, the big one. And this would be way before Halo, he watched the show. He's like, can I get a picture with you? Well, he had that Halo-looking mask on. Yeah, the big one. And this was way before Halo, but it was just... I was just like, oh, shit. Yeah, of course. And he took it off. And this kid was younger than me. He had some peach fuzz.

Starting point is 00:25:35 And I was like, this motherfucker had balls of steel while I was sitting in the back, pissing my pants. And then I also got... On my first Blackhawk ride, I went to the right side in the back seat. So that air was like, ah, just eating the air. It was pretty painful for, I thought, like, this will end at some point. It was like 30 minutes later.

Starting point is 00:25:54 I was like, ah. When getting off that, when you get off in like Kuwait. Yeah. How hot it is. Oh. The exhaust smell. So we went to. You turn right. There's the Air Force Base. yeah how hot it is oh and we did smell so we we went to the air force base there in korea is where

Starting point is 00:26:10 they had a standout but what i couldn't believe is like we when we landed they had us like a convoy which now from the show uh like where we'd have like the lead vehicle then we'd be in the middle and they just wouldn't stop for anything and i was just like oh my god fucking this is nuts like just just going through all things like passing camels on the road and they pull you to this hotel and there's a TGI Friday and a Starbucks. I'm like,

Starting point is 00:26:30 what the fuck? Yeah. He did say it was an Air Force base. Wow, a movie theater and a pool. What?

Starting point is 00:26:43 It reminds me of, I don't know if you've ever brought this up in a video. No, I think you have. The deployable Burger King. The deployable Burger King? Yeah. Oh, yeah. America has a deployable Burger King that can be anywhere in the world in 24 hours.

Starting point is 00:26:55 That's what we refer to as a tactical athlete. It's a semi-trailer that you can pull out of a C-130, and it's a fully operational Burger King. Oh, that's genius. Somebody's getting money for that behind the scenes. There's still, every once in a while on a road trip, I'll stop and get a Whopper. The Whoppers, like every once in a while on a bad road trip you get a Whopper. Whoppers are still

Starting point is 00:27:13 you shit your pants after, but it's worth it. Just a fucking Whopper or the chicken sandwich, I'll go for it. Could you imagine being an enemy of America being like, oh, I haven't had food in a little while. Supply lines are weak. And then America pulls a burger king out of a plane.

Starting point is 00:27:30 It's like, oh, shit. The king walks out in his costume. And he burgers out to troops. Europeans have to look at that and think that's the most American shit ever. I think I started to bring this up and got interrupted in a previous podcast. But you don't know the chocolate cake story, do you, from World War II? What? I know the ice cream story.

Starting point is 00:27:50 I don't know the chocolate cake. Yeah, there's the ice cream ships. That was with Japan. That was when Japan realized we were fucked is when they found out we had entire naval vessels whose whole job was to make ice cream for the Navy in World War II. That's pretty dope. He's a i i haven't read the actual one because i can't read german but allegedly uh there's like a german officer that they interviewed and they were like so like yeah when did when did you realize the

Starting point is 00:28:16 war was over and he's like we intercepted american mail and like in the mail on the front line somebody had shipped him a chocolate cake and it was still good and he's like that's when we realized that like the american logistics is gonna win this war no matter what we're fucked they just got a chocolate cake to the front lines from the other side of the planet before it got bad in the 40s yeah in the 40s wow yeah how was it like when you started doing that? That is a wild experience. That's awesome you went through that experience.

Starting point is 00:28:51 You signed up for that. You're like, I want to do this. I really wanted to go. I saw what the – I'd seen the Gary Sinise, the Lieutenant Bay. He would throw a concert every year for the entire CBS lot that we're in. Actually, the crazy thing is when we filmed csi new york at cbs radford ended up being the same studio that we we filmed seal team at like so like five or six years later came back at the same stage we were on stage three for nine seasons

Starting point is 00:29:17 and then and then stage 23 we were on that stage for seven seasons. So that studio became like a second home. And, but the Gary Cs would throw a big fucking party for them. And I met a bunch of guys and was hearing the stories. And again, it was very fresh. It was like, you know, and it was, there was. How far into like your professional acting career are you at this time when you went over? This is my first real, like CSI New York changed my life completely like how many years into that oh i'd be so i start i got my first gig on the x-files like season one of the x-files aj's been in a ton of stuff and he looks i can say this he looks i i've i i had worked with aj for probably a year. And then he starts posting clips of stuff he's done.

Starting point is 00:30:06 I'm like, I know. Like, I remember that. That was you? Yeah. He's like Gary Oldman. He looks completely different in each role. Like, completely. Doesn't even look like himself right now.

Starting point is 00:30:19 Like, multiple. Dude, he could show you the role he did on the. Entourage? Yeah, Entourage. Dude, doesn't does he I got it entourage dude he'd you remember his boyfriend oh shit yeah like give me the coke yeah that's him yeah he says post and stuff I'm like I didn't even know that was you yeah he crushed it he looks very different in in each role I mean in CSI NewI New York, he's a nerd. He's literally a computer nerd. I was a forensic pathologist.

Starting point is 00:30:50 Yeah. But I remember the day when they were testing me out for it, and I'm super dyslexic and I have real trouble reading anything. Oh, you'll get along with all of us. And so I have to hear fucking everything to memorize it. So the day that they wanted to test me for the show, they had me come because they were going through lab texts. I was just there to drive the story. I would show up on page nine. I'm out on page 33, 34, unless they let me out of the lab, which was only three times, and every girl I had got murdered.

Starting point is 00:31:18 So it was a sad case. But the first word I had to say, and it was with gary sinise and i knew that this is my test like it's a fill me down thing and so um and and usually i'd have like you'd have like a day or two with the lines to memorize it they were just like come down to the set here's your stuff go so i see this big monologue stuff i'm like oh please god this like make my brain work so for some reason i i when the the first word was methoxydiisopropyl triptamine and that was the word was like that which is basically yes i remember every i remember every day yeah every single big word on that show because it would

Starting point is 00:31:59 haunt me so so i get through i get through this to start doing the scene and i'm flubbing over the stuff and i'm just i'm totally sweating i keep hitting over like thermals and all this other stuff and the director calls cut and i think all right they're gonna i'm done and that uh the showrunner uh panvesa is like she's like hey she's yelling from behind the mom she's like keep whatever that choice you're doing of playing i'm really nervous it's hysterical keep doing that that we love that I'm like oh my god that was on purpose like the character's name was Mac and I've been Mac Mac and I was like so then the writer started to write me mumbling and bumbling through the things as to, we love this dude, great choice. And I was like, it wasn't until like years later, like I'd done, I'm like, guys, I

Starting point is 00:32:51 would actually shit my pants. And they're like, what? I'm like, no, this is not a character. Like I'm still, when you give me big words, I'm really terrified. And Gary, and Gary, years later, I was telling you this yeah yeah gary has this like i had such admiration for him for everything he did on stage as stephanie wolf and like you know he's in forest government tan tan so as an actor it was just somebody that i really admired but he had this thing that in the scenes he would just his character would just stare at you and just

Starting point is 00:33:20 like really just stare so i was like yeah just he looked pissed off all the time and i'm getting in my own head I'm like fuck oh god you hate but Gary fucking hates me Gary seems to hate me so I'm thinking this in my head while I'm doing the scene and then it's just making it worse and I'd always be like see I'm like Gary like I'd stay out of his way and stuff and I told him later I'm like dude I was he's like what he's like you were I'm like I thought he's like no man he's like I was just I was just in the scene looking at he was like and in my mind I'm thinking this character Adam's an idiot, you know, but I know you're not a real idiot, AJ. I'm like, oh, thanks.

Starting point is 00:33:50 Just your character. Let me say, AJ, you really sold it. I mean, really sold it. But it was, yeah, it was, but that show was, yeah, a massive game changer. So AJ, you know, I'll tell this story. So when I show up on the show, sorry, on Siltine, dude, so they're like, hey, can you, they called me up on like a Wednesday and they're like, hey, can you be in New Orleans on Friday? You know, for, I think it was six weeks.

Starting point is 00:34:23 And I was like, oh, shit oh shit man uh you know like i and i had to move a lot of stuff around at that time i had i literally i actually quit a job to to go work on clt which is a whole story in itself but dude they're hitting me up for like i'm figuring out my life like i gotta i literally quit a really good job to go do this which was a huge risk by the way um which i'll just tell that story very quickly, because I think it's important. I got called, I wanted to work in Hollywood. And, you know, I, when I got the, I got a big movie when they called for squad, they're like, Hey, can you leave? Which one? The first one, first one. I'm so sorry. Oh, dude, it was actually awesome. The, they, so I'm friends with David, who directed it,

Starting point is 00:35:05 the air who directed it. I mean, what we shot was an awesome movie. What was edited was not an awesome movie. That's what I hear. Yeah, but I'm telling you right now, I was there for six months filming. What we shot was awesome, a very good movie. What was edited, what was shot was not a comedy.

Starting point is 00:35:21 What do you mean? The studio can fuck up a good production. I know it's shocking, but... No way. You've stressed it so many times. What was shot was a lot of good stuff. I mean, dude, they could have edited an entire movie of just Joker and Harley Quinn. Like, they had enough footage to just do an entire movie with them.

Starting point is 00:35:39 So there's actually a scene, by the way, that I'm in that you don't know it but the scene where the Joker goes into Harley Quinn's Harley Quinn's cell there's a guy that opens excuse me the door I like the tail end of the movie yeah it's a very I think it's actually the last scene where there's a guy in a gas mask he opens the door for a Joker Joker goes in and then he guards the door that's me wearing a gas mask. I couldn't, I had to have a gas mask because I'm actually in the movie as a good guy. So I couldn't also be a bad guy. But anyways, I just did that.

Starting point is 00:36:17 Anyways, dude, there was a lot of good, there was a lot of dialogue in that scene just that disappeared. But that scene was shot for like, you know, an hour on screen and it's, you know, 30 seconds in the movie. Anyways, when I got that job offer, call me up, hey, six months in Toronto, can you leave in three days? And I'm like, so it was a big life decision. I'm like, this is the direction I want to go. So I dropped everything and made some pretty serious ramifications to the relationship I was in at the time. And it was like, this is the direction I want to go. And I left and I got, up technically getting SEAL Team, that call, directly from that. SEAL Team happens. And again, I get a call.

Starting point is 00:36:50 Can you leave in a couple days for six weeks? I had a really good job at the time. And I was just like, man, I got to try. I got to try. And so I quit that job and ended up going. My whole point is, dude, if something is what you want to do in life, no matter how good what you have is, you've got to reach for the thing that you want to do. And I can tell you, those two decisions were debatably two of the best decisions I've made in my life, was letting go of what I had to try and grab on to what I want. Everyone at this table. No, on to what I want. Yeah. You know, um, and everyone at this table, no,

Starting point is 00:37:26 I know, I know everyone here agrees with that, but I want to say it to the audience because if those decision points come up in your life, go, just go. Don't be scary as fuck. It's going to be scary.

Starting point is 00:37:38 Don't think too hard. Go reach out towards what you want. And you can definitely fail. Like you could it up, but you'll never regret it. No, no, you can you can it up but when that opportunity comes up again try it again um so the story i was going to tell is dude during that decision time when i'm like i'm trying to like i'm like making major changes to my life i'm getting a text twice a day from the damn producer going hey aj buckley really wants to talk to you. He's ready to go.

Starting point is 00:38:06 He's looking forward to talking to a military guy. He's really high. Can you take a shooting? I'm like, dude, I haven't even agreed to do the fucking job yet. And they're just like, man, he's ready to go. I literally got 10 or 12 texts before I even agreed to fly.

Starting point is 00:38:18 I was in my bathtub coming up out of my bathtub. Yeah, he's like doing breathing exercises. It was bananas. But I show up, man. And yeah, AJ and I just started rocking and rolling. Yeah, we hit it off. Yeah, we hit it off. What was, like, you're like, okay, I'm done. X, Y, and Z flew over, pissed myself flying in Black Hawk and now working with Tyler.

Starting point is 00:38:40 Well, crazy thing. So I started watching a bunch of different shows, and I watched the selection, which that he did with – what was it? It was History Channel or whatever? Was it History – It was like what that Fox show is. No, no, no. It was History Channel. Sorry.

Starting point is 00:38:55 It was like what that Fox show is now. What is it called? Special Forces. Special Forces. So it's the – it was a Special Forces one, but theirs was like the first one. So I was watching it. It was like – and me and my wife were like, oh, this Tyler guy. So I literally, when I first met him, oh, you're Tyler Graves.

Starting point is 00:39:09 He actually knew who I was. The fuck did you do from that show? So I was already fanboying. And then we, I just like, I wanted to, because I didn't grow up shooting guns, really. I shot like a handgun. You already said you're from Canada. Canadians. It was out there.

Starting point is 00:39:25 Well, we had UK first. So then I was with you on the ship that we were out there shooting when the first night I shot the 249. Also, I'm aware of how many Irish people I pissed off by saying that. I didn't want to bring it up and make it more awkward.

Starting point is 00:39:42 For those who don't know, that was a dig. Our owner of this is Joe. She is from Ireland and moved here two years ago. I looked around, she wasn't there, and then I felt like a dipshit. I was like, where's she? She's not here. Where's she from? Is she from Ireland? Ireland.

Starting point is 00:39:57 Her and her husband moved here three years ago from Ireland. Dude, if you ever get a chance to go to Ireland, I highly recommend it. What do you mean? She's from the white part of Ireland. You guys should go do a podcast there. 100%.

Starting point is 00:40:14 Graph shows. You should definitely go to Ireland, though. It is. You will get to the countryside and just rent a car and do the coast. It'll be by far one of the best trips you've ever really yeah you guys should go do a fucking podcast there how long is the drive for the coast around you could do it from here to ireland no no i think you could do it like if are you stopping or not stopping yeah whatever no stop you could you could do the entire coast and it'd be a good trip like it like 10 days and stop at a bed and breakfast and have a day or two here.

Starting point is 00:40:47 But awesome. You go to these tiny little villages, and it's right out of a storybook. But the Irish people are so welcome. They just open the door. As soon as you meet them, they'll invite you to stay at their house. They'll give the shirt off the back to you. There's a Guinness. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:41:04 Guinness is a whole—you'll learn the true off the back to you. Here's a Guinness. Yeah. Guinness is a whole. You'll learn the true, proper way to pour a pint of Guinness. And the Guinness here and the Guinness there taste 100% different. My mother used to pour. The doctors used to prescribe Guinness for the kids. I love this country. If they were lower in iron, the doctor would say, I'll just pour some Guinness in his porridge so they would get Guinness and did you say porridge

Starting point is 00:41:31 what what trial what reason this is our boy Connor Cody yeah where do you go history tism um you know in the cans of guinness there's that little ball at the bottom for um like keeping the foam right like it's on tap that was the invention of the year in 1999 was it really you want to know what it beat out from second place what the internet no way that is i still want to know if you're low in iron so well the doctors the guinness would be delivered with when the uh the milkman would come around and they dropped they drop off Guinness and milk. The Guinness man? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:42:26 Mom's banging the Guinness man. I look a lot like the Guinness man. But yeah, they would pour Guinness on our oatmeal. And then I always remember when we were sick. Never had that before. When we were sick, we would have we were sick we would have whiskey like hot water whiskey and sugar and they'd

Starting point is 00:42:47 wrap us up in a blanket kind of like a hot toddy hot toddy but then we'd be like four years old and like that's why they call it a hot toddy it's a

Starting point is 00:42:53 hot toddler literally wrap a hot towel around their head and give them alcohol it's a hot toddler there you go he's so docile

Starting point is 00:43:01 but next time you have a Guinness and you pour it the proper time to drink it you get like a quarter right and you hold the pint glass and if you when you first pour it you'll hit it'll have like a tonk tonk tonk sound to it and when it's ready to drink it'll go tink tink tink everything just sort of settles in it so and one of the things i'll teach is like when you're over in ireland when everybody's pint glass is about here order the round because

Starting point is 00:43:23 everybody ever you don't buy ever a drink for yourself. You buy for the table you're at. It's just very rude. If you have cigarettes, you throw them in the middle of the table. It's just a very community-based thing. And so if you see sitting down at a table, you buy a round for everyone. But don't order it down here because a proper pint of Guinness takes like five or so minutes for it to settle. And pour it at the thing.

Starting point is 00:43:44 So if you order a a big thing you don't want to break stride so if you're the idiot at the table that doesn't know and it's you're around and you miss thing that everybody's waiting and then you're that guy so you sort of gauge it halfway through everyone's there and comes around and if you have 10 pints of Guinness like you're full but there's less calories in the Guinness than there is in a Coors Light. What? This gave me anxiety about drinking in Ireland. I'm like, man, there's something wrong. Help me out to read the long paragraph. It's my turn.

Starting point is 00:44:10 Jesus. He's drinking so fast. Do I order now? What did AJ say? I'm going to share my breakfast. This sounds expensive. Connor's ashing in the middle. Is that rude?

Starting point is 00:44:26 I don't remember. I remember taking my cousin to, we were in Mexico. We came to visit. And in Ireland, when you're asking, like, if it's a good time, you say, how's the crack? How's the what? How's the crack? So you would say, how's the crack? So if you're out on a night, we were in Mexico.

Starting point is 00:44:40 Crack? Crack. Like the crack? That's a very different question. Yeah. So we were in Mexico. My cousin kept saying to me. Downtown San Antonio. They asked the same question. How's the crack? crack like the crack it's very different question yeah so we were in mexico my cousin kept saying to people downtown san antonio they asked the same question how's the crack how's the crack and people that like people were looking like what and i'm like dude you can't say that we're gonna throw it together and so of course you have a few pints of me hey

Starting point is 00:44:56 who you want how's crack and then fucking like everyone would turn to you like it's like a it's a weird segue it's like everyone's having like tequila and something my cousin would be randomly like how's the crack and everyone would stop me like what the fuck is this guy talking about i've heard show and dave say that before yeah it's like what's the crack what's going on yeah what's cracking yeah so what's cracking but just like but when someone says it late night at a club or walking up to somewhere how's the crack you've seen to the anyone did they teach they'd He would say it to everybody. Me and Trout were just talking about Irishmen going to Mexico last night at 3 in the morning. Oh no. During the Spanish-American War?

Starting point is 00:45:35 There was a bunch of Irish people. This is a random conversation. Anything historical is actually not random on this. Because of him. You literally, am I correct in saying you literally have a degree in history? No, I just read constantly. He's got an intense historical knowledge. Autism. Try to.

Starting point is 00:45:59 During the Mexican-American War, there was a bunch of Irish guys that came over, and they basically got drafted to get their citizenship in exchange. And so they had entire brigades of just straight-up Irish dudes that were getting their citizenship and fighting in the Mexican-American War. There's a guy. What is his name? He's a famous gunfighter. He was one of them. He's my favorite.

Starting point is 00:46:21 I've got to remember what his name is. Oh, my God. I'm going to look it up. You're right. of them he's my favorite i gotta remember what his name is um oh my i'm gonna look it up but he he got drafted i don't know i think he volunteered actually for the american war he was irish and he became this like i think it's i'm gonna look it up go ahead sorry no you guys go ahead anyways all these irish dudes uh all these irish dudes were uh in a unit together it's like they're all from ireland getting their american citizenship or whatever and they go down and start fighting the Mexicans and

Starting point is 00:46:45 after a little while they're like wait is this history or no this is real life I'm sorry I didn't know if this was current or historical I got confused I was like wait a minute are we talking about today I still want you to tell your Fortnite.

Starting point is 00:47:07 All these Irish dudes get over there and they're like, you guys are Catholic too? Fuck, tortillas are awesome. They literally ended up switching sides and started fighting for Mexico. And the Mexican-American war. There was a huge Irish population in Mexico

Starting point is 00:47:23 because of it. That's why. What year is this? Mexico. In the Mexican-American War. There was a huge Irish population in Mexico because of it. Actually, there is. That's why. Holy shit. What year is this? Mexican-American War. 1800s. It's around the Civil War. It's close to the Civil War. Oh, wow. Robert E. Lee, I think, was a colonel in the American military during

Starting point is 00:47:39 the Mexican-American War. It's just after the Civil War, isn't it? It's just before. Late 40s, early 50s? I think so think so I'm gonna find that dude story there's someone oh actually well uh canelo is that there's it there oh yeah canelo literally so as brandon wants me to tell you my conspiracy theory over here so you know how like a lot of uh military games were actually like kind of secretly covertly aided by the government for like making the army seem cool or like we're gonna make arma so they know damn near how to pilot a drone out of the gate when they get to covertly aided by the government for making the army seem cool or we're going to make Arma so

Starting point is 00:48:26 they know damn near how to pilot a drone out of the gate when they get to training. Shit like that. They made an entire... When I enlisted, there was an entire first the army game. Yeah, exactly. I have a theory. I think Fortnite was invented for ICE. Please elaborate.

Starting point is 00:48:42 If ICE busts in to deport a bunch of Mexicans and they just start building structures really fast so you can't get to them. They want to be prepared. You've got to know how to combat that. Just picturing my people. We're here.

Starting point is 00:49:01 How is that physically possible? Are you harboring enemies of the states beneath the floorboards this or did the enemies of the state just make this house if they were under the floorboard you'd fucking know you know that Putin had

Starting point is 00:49:21 like the world class not world class but like the highest category of Russian Arma 3 players simulate the invasion of Ukraine. I did hear about that, I think. Oh, I did not know that. How'd that go? Not according to plan. Turns out expensive. What do you mean you want me to program tanks from world war ii in the modern

Starting point is 00:49:46 warfare game i remember everybody was just like it's not gonna happen it's not gonna happen oh russia's going into ukraine it's not gonna happen we saw the headline they're like russia just moved up a shitload of blood reserves to the ukrainian border of like blood donation like blood bags like that we're like that's it's probably gonna happen i think it was like a couple days after that did you see that there was a headline i saw yesterday where uh zielinski was saying that he they've only received 78 million of the 100 oh sorry 78 billion of the 17 billion that we've said. They don't know where. They never received it. Oh, yeah, they're casually missing 58% of it. Yeah, they're missing $100 billion.

Starting point is 00:50:31 It's also a crazy way of saying thank you. Yeah, I was just like, what? It's a fucking bad day to be a Twin Tower. I was like, what the fuck? The government accidentally gives me. I'm going to pee. Great exit. The government accidentally gives me... I got a pee. Government can accidentally give me 50%. I'm like, you know what? Thank you.

Starting point is 00:50:52 That is crazy. It was during the Biden administration. At some point they said like, oh yeah, well, we accidentally gave Ukraine $5 billion more than we meant to. It's like... But you're not due to get it back? I mean, dude, anyone who's dealt with the IRS, it's like, you know, you're like, Hey, you guys, it's like it. The, the government waste is, is, it's unfathomable. It's like, it's like the military.

Starting point is 00:51:16 Tyler, what would you know about government? That's the thing. It's like, I always tell people, I'm like, dude, look, you can say what you want, but I work for the government. Like, I know how absolutely insane it is. I've flown on planes with millions of dollars of cash that were just freaking. A handout. That going where? I have no idea.

Starting point is 00:51:36 It's crazy to me. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's, dude, it's, it's, it's, it's the stuff I, I'm just, I'm talking. So that episode that we did with the- Yeah, I said it when we were on the plane. I said it. Remember I said I was like- What a fucking crazy thing to say.

Starting point is 00:51:50 I was like, I never flew with this much money, but remember you and I were talking about it. But my point being is just what I saw personally, not what I've heard or heard secondhand, let alone thirdhand, just what I've seen personally in Afghanistan and Iraq, it's the craziest. It's just we hand out money like it's water. It's crazy, crazy, crazy. And I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. And I am very happy with somebody coming in to reduce just the absolute waste because it's taxpayer money and that's not okay.

Starting point is 00:52:30 Somebody that's had to actually run a business and make a profit for a couple decades and know how to do it, that'd be cool. If I have to hear one more person that can't spell the word tariff have an emotional crisis about tariffs, I'm going to lose my mind. But whatever, what do we do with that Canada or Mexico? That's the new me. Somebody replied to my fucking tweet about the

Starting point is 00:52:52 tariff thing. I was just like, man, it feels like Trudeau is just doing as much fucking damage as he can before he leaves. Somebody's like, I don't want to be too harsh with my words here, but I just, I feel like if we keep going this way with American Canadian relations we won't be there when you need us and I'm just like not

Starting point is 00:53:13 that we haven't been on the same side on a bunch of stuff but like was he need is a strong word yeah speaking from the Canadian perspective yes yeah oh that changes things yeah like Mexicans are pissed. Yeah. With Trudeau and Canada, it's changed so much. I used to love going back to Vancouver and working there, doing all this stuff. But even just to see. Vancouver.

Starting point is 00:53:38 Just for reference, Vancouver is fucking wild. If you live there, the cost of living is insane. It's the most expensive city in the world. Dude, it used to be so beautiful. People cannot people cannot get into the market young people cannot buy houses they can't the rent is in like everything about it is so is it the price to go when you go film there uh and just you'll get like you always know because you have you'll have your per diem what they give you when you show up to to film and you'll go go go stock up the fridge and you will go to like a regular like they have a safeway up there you show up to film. And you'll go, oh, go stock up the fridge. And you will go to like a regular,

Starting point is 00:54:06 like they have a Safeway up there. You'll go to a regular Safeway, which is like a grocery store. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One pack of cigarettes. Yeah. Oh, for a hundred bucks Canadian, you will get maybe five items, tops.

Starting point is 00:54:18 And it is not good. And beer markup is like, you're paying almost triple even for like foods. I mean, I remember being a kid and like buying books. I'll just give you an example. You buy a book or a toy. At least when I was younger, it was always like this. Everything you buy had an actual price tag on it, right?

Starting point is 00:54:37 And on the price tag was cost and then Canadian. I just remember being a kid and being like, well, I'm glad I don't live there. Like everything's 20% more. Imagine having to pay in CAD. Savagery, right? And the sad thing is like Canadians are awesome. They're great people.

Starting point is 00:54:58 They love their sport. They love their hockey. They're very patriotic people. But it's been really sad just to see what bad management can do in there and just how there's no way that they can get out of the position that they're in. Every time I get upset with Canada, I see immediate footage of farmers from Canada blowing manure onto government buildings. I'm like, never mind. I have confidence in these people. We're the trucker. We're the trucker.

Starting point is 00:55:24 Yeah, the trucker thing was that was crazy like those guys like the canadians are awesome they are awesome it it and and they that that whole thing with what they ended up doing to the truckers after where they yeah they were like freezing their bank accounts and stuff that was just like such overreach i mean trudeau is on tape saying when somebody asks like what's one of your favorite countries and he says china he says that on an interview like you're like what how can why would anybody compare canada you know i feel like it's the same as the united states where like you have people in the rural canadians are fucking dope oh yeah yeah yeah awesome people that live in the fake world that is a big city yeah and they think they know how the world works it's like homie you live in a illusion

Starting point is 00:56:04 how he feels about canada is exactly the way I feel about California. I grew up in California. I was born and raised in California. And California in the 80s and the 90s was fucking rad, dude. California was awesome. But California, I grew up in Bakersfield, though, by the way. Bakersfield, California is basically, if Bakersfield, though, by the way. Bakersfield, California is basically if Bakersfield, California switched places with Austin, Texas, the United States would make sense, more sense. Because it's true. You mean Little L.A.?

Starting point is 00:56:35 Dude, Bakersfield is the country music capital other than Nashville. So it's like Bakersfield, Buck Owens, Dwight Yoakam, all those things. So it's like Bakersfield was like Texas and California, the oil industry was one of the main reasons why. But yeah, I used to go to the drug, Long's drug store and there was a pistol counter from here to the wall. It was huge, you know, it was just a very different place. And just seeing what California has become, you know, in the last 20 years is just just it's sad it's honestly yeah i mean we we left the we left five years ago four four and a half five years ago and just to see what like and it i like california and and that just that whole los angeles it's such great memories for me because

Starting point is 00:57:22 it gave me the start of my career i remember i have so many moments in my life that were life-changing moments as a young man in that area and then just when you go back and busy when we're filming when i flew back to the last couple seasons and just to see because you'd get an airbnb or whatever it is and you would just and there wasn't there was so many years like when i was living out of my car, I didn't feel unsafe. You feel unsafe at all times. There's an edge that comes over you. Do we used to film?

Starting point is 00:57:54 A lot of people don't know this, but I'll tell you. It's a fact. We filmed a third, which is a lot. We filmed 130-something episodes of SEAL Team. Debatably, a third of those were filmed in downtown LA, which you wouldn't expect. But we filmed about a third of those in downtown LA. And, dude, we filmed in some bad areas. Like, we filmed in an alley where they were, like, throwing shit on us.

Starting point is 00:58:19 Oh, yeah. Literal human shit. It was crazy. I mean, we've seen quite a lot of things. But, dude, we'd film in areas that you know security would have to escort you you know to the car it was that bad and dude downtown was just out of control we had we had a guy in a tent i remember max and i were in a tent he's just pounding's like we open the trailer

Starting point is 00:58:47 usually it's the other way around he's in a blue tent on the other side of the gate he's just sitting there and i'm like i'm like max is that is there like a fan of yours or something he's on some drugs and he's just fucking i mean max is a good looking guy i get it i get it i get it i get it with you on film going for the first time to LA. Oh, okay. Not pounding you. I was like, you caught on. There's cameras in the unsum house. No pounding of the bishop. It's a different show.

Starting point is 00:59:11 Going to LA for the first time. And your reactions of Hunter Street and downtown LA. It's a fucking dump, man. Oh, yeah. It was never like that. That's one street from, what's the? Rodeo? Skid Row. Skid Row. No, dude. It's one street from, what's the? Rodeo or? Skid Row.

Starting point is 00:59:27 Skid Row. Skid Row. And not the 80s band. No. No. Much better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great band.

Starting point is 00:59:34 18 and Life, classic. Dog eating a rat. It was, yeah, people. Almost got eaten by the dog. The zombies. The fucking fentanyl zombies. Oh, yeah. But you see what happened in San Francisco?

Starting point is 00:59:47 Have you guys been to San Francisco before? I have, but I'm not going back. I'm going in two months. I shot a series up in San Francisco, and it was terrifying. It looked like an old video game that you play. Narc. Oh, my God. It's classic. looked like an old video game that you play and you're like... NARC? Oh my god! All the needles falling out of the person

Starting point is 01:00:10 when you shoot them. You gotta get NARC. Eli, you need NARC as an arcade game in here. Oh yeah, that's a good arcade game to put in the background. You shoot them and the freaking money and drugs are falling out of them. I think there's an actual app.

Starting point is 01:00:25 This is a Nintendo game. I think there's an actual app that they have where people have actually shit and you can track it. It's like the human tracker or something like that. It's glowing. It's just one big pile of dots where people

Starting point is 01:00:41 look. We took Cody's girlfriend to LA because we did like a movie premiere like i don't know six months ago or something like that and she thought we were kidding but it's like we were in la walking the street for maybe 10 minutes where it's like oh first human yeah oh yeah and she's just like no no we weren't exaggerating it's literally bad dude everything changed i mean look it was on a decline but dude covet is when everything yeah hard hard change i mean it changed overnight you know most small mom and pops shut down it was like 70 percent i had we had a bunch of friends that lost like like generational restaurants that were just gone with dude but i mean the homeless stuff was out of control but

Starting point is 01:01:21 again it wasn't that you know suddenly the restaurant owners are on the street it was that what they were tolerating and i'll tell you the the craziest thing and again people can say whatever they want i was there i saw it yeah i was there when they changed i think you had already left i was there when they changed the law to allow the under thousand dollar oh yes i was there oh yeah and i think it was in altsons. Don't quote me on that. But I think it was in Albertsons in, what was the name of the area I lived in? Studio City. So it was in Albertsons and Studio City on the corner of Ventura. Albertsons is like a grocery store? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:01:57 It's Safeway. Same. Same thing. Normal grocery store. Not super cheap. Not high end. Just a normal grocery store. So they just changed the law.

Starting point is 01:02:06 I was there. And again, I'm not exaggerating what I'm about to say. Dude, you just see person after person come in, grab a handful of food, and just straight walk out. Not even run, just walk out. Dude, not run, not even be, I mean, chill as a cucumber. Grab a freaking, grab a thing of food and just walk out. And I remember seeing it for the first time and being like yeah you know wait what you know like my brain's processing and then i figure out what

Starting point is 01:02:31 it is and then i started getting like dude and again i i wanted to like hurt them you know what i mean then i'm like then you'll get arrested then you'll get arrested and it was like this weird struggle that i had where i wanted to do them physical harm, which, by the way, I know is not the correct action to somebody just stealing food. But it's fair to be angry when you live your whole life following the rules and then you see somebody brazenly break it with no consequences. Yeah. I mean, honestly, if they would have grabbed it and did some effort running, I'd be like,

Starting point is 01:03:02 okay. Just pretend like it's not okay. Just pretend like it be like okay you're gonna become a vigilante riding the New York subway and I just it was really frustrating what's crazy is at the time they had like one security guard and then over over time, you know, within six months, they had six. You know, because they couldn't, you couldn't as a person stop. And a guy tried to pass this law in California, which to be fair, I do understand what his thing was. He didn't want, it was a law which got a lot of shit. But I actually agree with the guy's intent.

Starting point is 01:03:42 And even though it was a horrible idea, but his intent was to pass a law so that bosses wouldn't force employees that weren't security people to stop theft, which made it, it was like, but he went about it in a very stupid way, which was, it made it like illegal for non-security people to stop theft, which was a horrible idea.

Starting point is 01:04:03 But again, I, I do when stupid, you know, politicians, you know, I look at the intent. There's none of those. Yeah. I'm like, okay. What a hot take.

Starting point is 01:04:15 So that one, I'm like, okay, I see the intent. You know, it wasn't a ridiculous intent, but it's ridiculous in how it's going to freaking play out. It's like a road to heaven paved with good intentions exactly exactly and so you know it's just like dude my you know in the past I used to in the early 2000s I used to have to go to Portland dude Portland used to be a beautiful amazing I love you for you there oh dude yes done great Oregon County Fair I not like a big deadhead thousand and ten was the last time I was in Portland, it's done. Green Bay, Oregon County Fair. Not since 2010

Starting point is 01:04:45 was the last time I was in Portland. It's been a long ass time. Post 2020, done. Infected with homeless. Well, I mean, during the Summer of Love, a lot of that was based out of Portland. A lot of the people that were throwing IEDs and shit.

Starting point is 01:05:00 Well, they would go in and they would just find a house that somebody wasn't in and they would just take it and the people would come back and they couldn't get them out of the house. They would just move in and there was nothing they could do to get them out of the house. I was like, what?

Starting point is 01:05:15 Damn it, now I need... I will say it was one of the... It was a Twitch channel that popped off. I forget. It was an Asian dude and a squatter tried to take over his house. Bro, that was one of the most hilarious things I have ever seen because she wouldn't move out. And he's like, okay, fine. He just invites Twitch people to come.

Starting point is 01:05:35 He sets up alarms for if you do donations or subscribe. Blair's music. Oh, dude. To her room because he's like, fine, we'll all live here. Because he can't legally evict her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, oh, we'll all live here. Because he can't legally evict her. So it's like, oh, well, let's have fun with it. So he's calling the cops and he's like, I just gotta walk this floor and he's just

Starting point is 01:05:51 hitting her door with the mop. The cops show up, they're like, are you? He's like, I was just she pushed something under the door. I was just cleaning my house. And the cops are like, God. Fair enough. Dude, they would not touch her. But she's the one that would call the cops 12 times a day. You know the cops thought it, God. Fair enough. Dude, they would not touch her. So they were just like... But she's the one that would call the cops 12 times a day. You know the cops thought it was hilarious.

Starting point is 01:06:09 Oh, yeah. That dude made thousands of dollars because then it started bringing in hundreds of thousands of views and donations on minute-to-minute music. That is a dude taking lemons and making lemonade right there.

Starting point is 01:06:24 Good on you. You've got millions of people. I will rent out property in California because the laws are so disproportionately weighted to the tenants. We lived across in Redondo Beach, right across from the Redondo Police Department. And because of the show, the cops had recognized us. Literally across the street. It was literally right there. It was right there.

Starting point is 01:06:52 Yeah. And so I became good buddies with a lot of cops. And there was this law that was passed. It was like no bail, no jail. So they were arresting the same. Hold the fuck. Like, you don't have to post. No, that usually means jail.

Starting point is 01:07:08 Yeah. So if you can't have bail, you're out. No, you just you would. You basically go in. You didn't have to take you down. I think they don't need to post bail, nor are you going to jail. They catch a guy getting arrested. It's basically catch and release.

Starting point is 01:07:21 They bring him down to the thing. They take his picture and let him out. And four hours later, the same cop is picking up and the same dude again break it into another so so you can rest him like four times a night if you want to see some fun videos so i live i live currently in orange county look it up it's insanity it's it's called catch and release so if you want to look up that's catch and release i'm more confused and I'm very angry but I'm more confused than anything

Starting point is 01:07:47 the cops would say we're so frustrated because we're literally picking up the same person and when they're taking the picture they're flipping off the camera it's the same thing on the southern border right now like well hopefully not anymore you just saw it all the time I talked to a lot of those dudes

Starting point is 01:08:03 Rocco on the show talked about like vincent vargas on the show was like yeah dude yeah yeah his book is amazing dude he would say he's like you what you can't touch them and if they cross you you can't touch them and then it's a it's you get in trouble if you because if you touch them and then they they get they leave your custody or they go back or whatever that's's a federal investigation. So they let them pass. And Rock was like, yeah, we're literally just like. He's a great dude. Oh, I love Rock.

Starting point is 01:08:30 He's in Texas. Yeah. Isn't he? He's moving back. Well, he used to be Border Patrol. That's, you know. Dude, when we were in Columbia, this is a true story. When we were in Columbia filming, which was in spring, right?

Starting point is 01:08:40 April. Yeah. April. It just so happened, which like, what are the odds? We're in Columbia filming. And it just so happened, what are the odds? We're in Columbia filming and it just so happened, I start seeing these dudes and I'm like, you know, same recognize same.

Starting point is 01:08:52 I'm like, these aren't normal gringos. I'm like, these are federales, right? And I just start seeing these guys. I'm like, dude, these guys are in government. You know what I mean? I could just tell. So we finally approached them. Turns out that while we happened to be in Columbia, the whole cast is at this hotel.

Starting point is 01:09:10 They're having this. And I mean, we're talking FBI, DEA, agency, every three-letter agency. NSA. All the guys that were there at Jan 6th. They're all there. I love this guy. They're all there. Who said that? they're having a uh what's it called they're having a conference to basically try and figure out what to do with the border and this is in

Starting point is 01:09:36 again this is this is in april so it's like there's stuff on the news but like no one knows you know it hadn't really all come out yet and I just went up to him I was like hey dudes you know you guys yeah and I started talking to him like hey like no shit what's going on right now like legitimately and they're like bro like this is what's at forget all the politics and everything this is what is happening and basically they're like all the and it was oh sorry let me be clear we're in colombia we're not in mexico we're in colombia and what it was because the through the colombian channel and through everything it was the cartels were bringing all this not just drugs but actual terrorists through and that's what the

Starting point is 01:10:16 conference was was trying to figure out a solution and then and it was probably also talking about the venezuelan gangs at that time you know so, so it was, and he was just like, this is what's happening. And so I was like, okay, that's, you know, it's officially, officially going on, not unofficially. It's weird too, how much like you do not hear about it in mainstream news, but like the amount of people that you are for sure confirmed terrorists caught on the border. And that's what they told me in April. So I knew then from the horse's mouth, they're like, this is what is actually happening. It's not being reported.

Starting point is 01:10:52 Here's why, blah, blah, blah. And it was really interesting. It's eye-opening on how much is not. Oh, dude. You know how most government people, like FBR or whatever, they always downplay, like, oh, it's not that bad or whatever. This dude, point blank, blank was like it's so bad right now yeah yeah yeah like he i was like oh when somebody

Starting point is 01:11:10 says we weren't talking like politics we're just talking you know bros you know yeah it was uh good let me tell you an fbi story by the way so i don't think i told this one last time no i didn't i didn't even know part of this of your life. I happen to be... Tyler has a lot of different... I have a lot of random stories. So I happen to be... Tyler's just a regular infantry dude. It's crazy he got to do something like that.

Starting point is 01:11:33 With a CQB AT-4. No, so I have one of those regular infantry. Exactly. I happen to be at the FBI Academy. And for, I don't know, like, I don't know, was there a decent amount of time? Three weeks. 25.

Starting point is 01:11:52 Just hanging out. So this is before. This is during. I was doing some training stuff there. I can't. Not secrets. Details. It's a long explanation to explain it

Starting point is 01:12:18 um and so anyways i was there at the fbi academy and they had a graduation happening at the FBI Academy. So I go to the FBI Academy or I go to the, I was at the Academy and they're doing, I forget why I was there, but it was at night. And it's like they had their graduation and now it's literally they're like after party for all these new FBI agents. And there's like, you know, 50 of them. I don't know. And dude, they're doing karaoke and like i just sat there and they're like getting hammered and doing fbi agent karaoke all brand new agents and i'm just like watching them get up and do karaoke and i'm like i'm never gonna be able to take the fbi seriously i'm just watching them all hammered,

Starting point is 01:13:06 like fucking slobbering all over each other. My graduation was one. What specifically is FBI agent carryover? I remember the songs. I just remember seeing all these... I just remember my I'm like my image of the agency is like forever ruined by watching these just

Starting point is 01:13:29 drunk agents slobbering all over themselves it was like 10 years ago you guys remember that video of the guy from the wedding reception the FBI agent that did the backflip and his gun falls out oh yeah it goes off and then he goes to grab it and accidentally fires I forgot about that oh yeah I forgot about that one Yeah, I forgot about that one.

Starting point is 01:13:45 He got in trouble. I would assume so. It was a P320, it wasn't his fault. They do that on their own. I'll tell you another FBI story because it's really funny. I don't think I told this last time, but this is a true FBI story. There's a lot of type stories. I have no fucking clue. Well, this one's great. I was with a good buddy of mine, Jack Osborne. And I was guarding him. We just talked about him. We were just talking about Jack. Jack's a great dude.

Starting point is 01:14:10 We were literally on. Like two hours ago. Two hours ago. Oh, really? Because Jack texts Demo that he wanted Demo to wish. Happy birthday to his dad. To Ozzy Osborne. And so Demo was like, oh, got it.

Starting point is 01:14:24 And they stacked up pallets of water and Demo ran through it. He's like, yeah, we sent it. And then 10 minutes later, Ozzy sent a video back. Ozzy sent a video back. He's like, fuck it, whatever. Dude, Ozzy's a maniac.

Starting point is 01:14:37 Like, I'll tell the Mars Rover thing. Oh, okay. Yeah, I will tell it. What the fuck? What's happening? Ozzy, so let me tell you an FBI agent story about my friend Ozzy Osbourne that involves

Starting point is 01:14:50 an astronaut I'll tell them both quickly so basically please elaborate in f***ing detail I don't know if you've looked at the duration of this podcast so far but we got time

Starting point is 01:15:04 so Jack's like hey dude and i've been friends with jack actually jack and i were roommates i've moved into his guest house for like i don't know a year and a half and great dude his guest house great great great shooter too great guy great guy i mean dude jack can tell you some stories i mean jack was you know partying at like 14 years old on sunset with paris h and do he's got some crazy stories he put it this way he was in rehab at 18 but um so Jack's like hey dude you wanna you want to come you know guard Ozzie or you know my dad and I for the show that they were doing called the world detour which I don't know if you ever saw it it was a

Starting point is 01:15:44 great show on Nat Geo I believe don't quote me on it maybe Discovery I don't remember and basically it was just them doing it's just Jack and Ozzy driving around basically doing learning history and kind of doing cool stuff I don't know how else to describe it and uh and Ozzy by the way Ozzy is a huge military history fanatic by the way like ozzy loves military history i remember showing up one time ozzy opens the door and he's like i'm watching vietnam and hd and we go inside and jack and I watch freaking Vietnam in HD for like four hours with Ozzy. And like he knew his stuff. But anyways, so I was like, sure, dude, I'll come.

Starting point is 01:16:31 And, you know, I was doing Bodygurning at the time. I'd come too. So now I'm Bodygurning Jack. Dude, dude, like I'm Bodygurning Jack. So you should absolutely have jack on the show he can tell you stories 100% blow your mind white sabbath so um so basically freaking the i'll tell the mars one because it's pretty crazy so when the the guy who ran just stop just go uh what's it called the houston houston we have a problem nasa the guy who ran nasa at houston i guess was a huge black

Starting point is 01:17:12 sabbath fan so somehow they got in contact you're gonna say nazi but he's also mad operation paperclip that's more on the covert so then your name's uh convention center so he invites ozzy and jack to to houston to the the nasa you know whatever the space center i think it's called the nasa space center down there basically carte blanche dude do whatever you want and film it so they do all kinds of stuff we got a great tour jack and i literally talked to an astronaut for like two hours it was awesome it was a great i learned a lot well one of the things they had ozzy do was drive the mars rover and i'm not joking they put ozzy osbourne in control of the mars rover on mars no sort of oh no no it's here right so basically i didn't know if it was just like

Starting point is 01:18:03 remotely piloted Oh, no, no, it's here, right? So basically I didn't know if it was just like remotely It's cold I'm believe it was called the Mars rover if it wasn't then that's wrong Yeah, but it's this vehicle built for mars it's not a it's a drivable it's actually more like and we can look it up on the episode or you guys can but it's basically the mars truck it was a truck designed for mars when humans are there oh and they basically don't like the curiosity no no not curiosity i think they called it the mars yeah but it's actually like a an suv mars. I forget what the name was. And they basically had built, you know, outside, they built this, you know, four football field size area that had red dust and rocks. And it looks like Mars. And obviously, you know, they built it.

Starting point is 01:18:56 So they put Ozzy in there. Now, the best part is I'm not in the vehicle. In the vehicle is like the guy who knew the vehicle the best, Ozzy and Jack, right? They're all mic'd up. We up we're you know 200 yards away they said they could go over anything and I'm standing with like six engineer straight-up nerds from NASA right that like built the thing and the producer and you know a couple other people and we're listening we can hear everything and it's like yeah so this vehicle is incapable of getting stuck

Starting point is 01:19:25 all right and the business we call this and that's the thing is this whole sequence was like it was planned i was there dude this sequence was not planned they were like it's it's it's like the unsinkable molly brown this this vehicle cannot get stuck etc it's got six wheels each one's independent suspension each one has its own front and reverse and they just they're going on about how what an engineering marvel this vehicle is right and so i can just picture ozzy's like okay challenge accepted right and these engineers are like whispering yeah yeah he's gonna you know there's nothing it's it's unstoppable it's the best thing ever and they're just whispering in the background some they let and that guy drives around a little bit then they

Starting point is 01:20:08 give the controls for ozzy i shit you not for whatever fucking reason these guys put in this area a rock as big as this fucking table just in the middle of the fucking thing now aussie starts driving about 100 yards away from it how fast does this thing go uh not fast but not slow you know it's like maybe 15 miles an hour don't speak fast enough for you to know where this is going i'm watching it drive and it just occurs to me, he's going to head straight for that fucking rock. Right? Now, it's also pretty obvious to me that no one had ever headed straight for that rock. Right?

Starting point is 01:20:55 It's there as like, hey, that's an obstacle. Obviously drive around it. Right? No one's like, that rock is not there for you to drive around. Right? It's obviously that everyone goes around it. You would obviously go around it right no one's like that that rock is obviously that everyone goes around if you would obviously go around it well you tell ozzy that thing can go over anything he's gonna freaking go over it so he's driving straight at it and it occurs to me i'm like oh shit this is not gonna work out well the engineers in behind me as it gets about 50 yards away, are like, he's not. No, no.

Starting point is 01:21:27 And I'm like, oh, yes, he is. Dude, he hits that thing straight on. It starts going up and you just start hearing the whispering. Oh, it'll be fine. Yeah. Oh, this is going to take that. No one's ever went over that before. Yeah, but it's designed for it.

Starting point is 01:21:41 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he freaking goes up on it and then he gets on top of it and then nothing and dude the panic starts very slowly it's like one engineer going it'll be off in a second it'll be off in a few seconds right and it just starts building and like over the course of a minute you just hear these engineers go from like absolute confidence to absolute panic they're like oh my god you're like no way did he like and by the way i'm missing a piece i should have said in the beginning in the beginning it i forget how much but it was like a crazy amount of money like five billion dollars that they had spent on this vehicle right it was an insane amount of money

Starting point is 01:22:32 right dude these guys just start freaking out he's on it for you know i don't know i just have to watch the episode he's on it for like two minutes and ain't moving at all and it's this huge boulder it looks ridiculous it's just like balanced on top of it meanwhile one of the doge guys is watching this podcast just like mars truck no go right and so long story short they finally freaking you know he has to give control over to the engineer and that guy like adjust the pressure deflates the time i mean he it literally was on there for like three minutes and finally he got it off but dude like ozzy stuck the mars freaking rover no doubt about it i watched it happen it's like it was a great episode dude

Starting point is 01:23:16 you gotta see it um so the fbi story real quick i think that was a secondary yeah yeah that was all in build-up right all right so the FBI story is we're at the FBI so somehow Jack couldn't and the producers convinced them to go to the FBI again random so I'm at the FBI Academy again this is what like Quantico yeah yeah and we found out when you're friends with certain people. Yeah, you can go anywhere. We're all choice here. Redacted, redacted. We're at the FBI Academy and they're doing all this different stuff.

Starting point is 01:23:55 They showed some history stuff, the guns, all this. And now we're at the, which is pretty famous, which is the FBI's quote unquote Hogan's alley. So it's like their little tactical training portion, which is very world renowned. Right. And, um, so their, their shooting instructor starts or this guy starts doing this briefing and he's like, yeah, so, you know, this is our Hogan's alley is basically they were showing like the FBI's training process. Right. And they start saying like, okay, so this is our Hogan sally it's very famous and this is like the hardest part of the shooting call for the fbi which which is true um or at least i'm told and then he and he's like you know and this is our lead shooting instructor now here's a huge

Starting point is 01:24:35 mistake that he makes he's like this is our leading shooting instructor he is the best shooter at the fbi like he's the lead shooting instructor. Nobody could beat him. He's just amazing. Then Ozzy Osbourne beat him. No, so then they go. So then he goes. You're not far off. So then they go. Who here? Now we're going to do a little bit of training.

Starting point is 01:25:05 Who here wants to volunteer? Well, it's Jack and Ozzie are the only two people on the show. So Ozzie is like, Jack. I want to shoot the big gun. It was pretty obvious to me that no one on the show briefed the FBI that Jack is a great shooter. Oh, he's a really good shooter. I've shot with Jack a million times in fact Jack and I that's how we met we met shooting on on the range so Jack is a really legit shooter

Starting point is 01:25:34 he's also really good at jujitsu right so and to give reference when you're a decent shot how many rounds have you probably shot in your me Me? Oh, I don't know. I literally used to shoot a thousand rounds a day. That's no joke. When it was free. That is the big indicator. Free. A certain time period of his life, it was a thousand rounds

Starting point is 01:25:58 a day. I used to shoot a thousand rounds a day. Yep, that's true. To be fair, I'd rather spend the money as a taxpayer making sure you can train with free ammo than five billion dollars on a truck that gets knocked over. Ozzy Osbourne

Starting point is 01:26:13 crashes into a rock. Don't get me wrong, I love crazy training. Yeah. But I don't want him driving the Mars. If they were smart over the episode, they should have played Crazy Train over the freaking thing. They could have got the license. So basically, it was obvious to me that no one told the FBI

Starting point is 01:26:39 that Jack is a really good shooter. So Jack's like, oh, I'll do it. And I mean, dude, if you could have seen the, it's on camera, but the FBI, the agent that was like the shooting instructors, dude, he was just so, so confident. You know what I mean? Like, oh, this Hollywood, you know,

Starting point is 01:26:57 music royalty, rich kid, I'm going to smoke this guy. He's like, so they get Sims pistols, Sims clocks, right? And they're doing four, again, I got to watch the episode i don't remember exactly but i'm sitting there oh here's the critical part for the sake of the audience simunition like sim oh yeah sorry so it's it's a um i believe they were using glock 19s if i remember correctly using it was either sims or ftx for its workforce i don't remember but it's basically shooting a paint a plastic paint bullet for like a return so the gun and they fucking they do hurt but they function it's a real gun just has a sims barrel um and obviously sims bullets right and uh which have a generally a

Starting point is 01:27:38 well it's a unique casing but it's a plastic bullet with paint in the plastic and, um, or a variation depending on the brand. So they get the guy and I, I'm with the lead producer and I just like see this and I just saw, I based everything. First of all, I knew how good Jack was, but I saw the FBI dude, his overconfidence.

Starting point is 01:28:00 And I just went to the producer and I go, mark my words, Jack's going to beat this guy. And they set up four drills and I don't even remember what they are. They do the first one. Dude, out of four drills, again, you know, clock the show for accuracy. From what I remember of the four drills, Jack won, I believe, three out of the four. And the one, if I'm not mistaken that the FBI

Starting point is 01:28:25 agent one he cheated how do you cheat he shot try to remember but he did something that wasn't in the rules I don't remember what it was but it was like I don't remember what I remember watching it and being like that that wasn't in the rules right but this again the one he won after he lost then he started getting panicking and worried and then he started cheating but the other part is the other best part is one of the four drills I think on one of the ones he lost the FBI agent shot the cameraman yeah with Sims with with the sims bullet a regular out Rusty God Shoot the cameraman

Starting point is 01:29:23 Miss Jack went wide and shot the cameraman but yeah so super easy when you have it done jack crushed him in the drills i and again i don't even remember exactly what they are but jack crushed him and i was just like i was like dude this guy had no idea what he was getting into dude jack trains a lot so it was uh it was pretty funny but that was my uh i mean look man it comes down to it's like you know you're talking law enforcement federal law enforcement um you know anywhere in my experience it's like dude you you gotta be humble and just because you got three letters behind your name or just because you were at a certain unit or or agency or whatever

Starting point is 01:30:05 dude it doesn't make you better than than anyone else you know what i mean every case every person every situation is is unique and individual and dude there are good people in you know the higher you get to in the more prestigious units or or three-letter places the less bad people there are but there's still bad people there's good people and bad people at every unit every agency you know whatever and just because you're in a place that maybe has an elite you know name or title or image it doesn't make you better than everyone else and anyone can be you and there's someone always better the vast majority of the the friends or the people that I've met that i have been part of those like tier one units and stuff like that there are some

Starting point is 01:30:49 exceptions don't get me wrong but like those are usually the most laid-back chill guys they don't have a bunch of shit to prove yeah well it's you'd never know yeah i mean i i mean i i know you know one of my one of my best friends i mean dude he is the baddest dude in the world he's done everything and that's a you you would if he was he'd never wear a shirt that says strong like whiskey no but if he was here you guys you guys would have no idea. He's just the most chill, non, you know, it's the people that you think are, you know, the best among us are the people that you never expect. Warrior's heart owner. Like, perfect.

Starting point is 01:31:37 Yeah, Tom's a machine. Dude, Tom is one of the most unassuming humans you will ever, ever meet. Yes, this is true. And then you talk to him and you're like, oh, yeah. I had that moment last time I was here. With who? We got done filming one podcast. You're like, yeah, we're going to go to the pre-range day party for like 30 minutes.

Starting point is 01:31:57 Then we got to come back and film a podcast with Terry. And I was like, okay, dope. Who's Terry? And he's like, oh, it's that guy right over there that was like watching the whole previous podcast. And I was like, okay, dope. Nice to meet you, Terry. Blah, blah, blah. I come over here. Who the who's Terry? And he's like, oh, it's that guy right over there that was, like, watching the whole previous podcast. And I was like, okay, dope, nice to meet you, Terry, blah, blah, blah. Who the fuck is Terry? And he's like, oh, he's the guy that saved Captain Phillips.

Starting point is 01:32:11 Oh! Oh! It was so chill. Like, we hung out with him for the entire fucking day. Didn't know a damn thing. Like, obviously, you could tell, like, from the look of the guy. It's like, okay, he's, like, been there and done some shit, but, like, he'd never be the one to tell's like, okay, he's been there and done some shit, but like, he'd never be the one to tell you.

Starting point is 01:32:27 No, Tom, Tom, Tom is that way. I mean, I was in, you know, in,

Starting point is 01:32:31 uh, we were in the same, uh, military. Well, yeah. I'm trying to do no shit. When you break it down,

Starting point is 01:32:42 we were in, you know, a smaller unit together, is what I'm trying to say. We high-fived each other in the hallways. Well, we were in a smaller unit together, is what I'm trying to say. We high-fived each other in the hallway. Well, a lot of guys you don't see because you're on opposite places, and you just never see them. But Tom, he was much closer than other people were. So I saw firsthand. I mean, he's the baddest dude out there.

Starting point is 01:33:02 And again, you would never expect it in a conversation with him. But he's just he's the baddest dude out there and uh again you would never expect it in a conversation with him but he's he's he's a machine i i did to be honest though if i'm being perfectly honest while i was there i thought tom was like i'm like this guy's way too chill like dude tom is you know what i mean like yeah i was like he chill honestly i remember back then thinking man why is this? And dude, I was young fucking, I was, you know, a young moron. But I just remember like, how is this guy so stoic? You know, I remember thinking that back then.

Starting point is 01:33:34 And then when I was at Warrior's Heart and I was actually talking to Tom and I kind of talked to him about it. Then I was like, dude, I didn't know because I didn't. I'm like, I didn't know that you got sober. Like I think in the early two thousands, if I'm not mistaken. So I'm like, I didn't know that about you. And that would have, to me, that kind of solved that stoicism mystery of that time. Like he had already gone through so much personal development, so much personal growth. He was already on like another Zen level. I hadn't even... I didn't try to help others.

Starting point is 01:34:06 Not only was I not there, I hadn't even been an asshole yet before. You know what I mean? I still had to become an asshole and then achieve some level of personal growth. He had already been through the whole thing. So yeah, he's a great dude. He's a super cool dude.

Starting point is 01:34:21 With you, AJ, with your side, what was one of the stories you've heard Tyler or another person tell where you're like, Jesus, fuck, what the fuck? Can I say this real quick, though? You've got to understand, he tells me stories.

Starting point is 01:34:42 It's not me saying stories that he's like, oh stories that I'm like that he's like oh that's crazy combat story I hear his Hollywood stories bro and I'm like that's the craziest shit I've ever heard my stories are stupid compared to his stories

Starting point is 01:34:57 fucking Hollywood stories how many kids in that basement no way how much for hot dogs How many kids in that basement? No way. How much for hot dogs? Oh, burn. No. This one time, Tom Cruise, he bought a $20,000 coat rack from Wayfair and got a coat rack. He was so pissed.

Starting point is 01:35:21 Those Denny parties were crazy, bro. He basically, like, lived entourage. Oh, no. I crazy, bro. He basically lived entourage. Oh, no. Am I wrong? No, it was a crazy dude. House in the Hills, eight chicks in the fridge. A single man's dream. Dude, he has the craziest stories

Starting point is 01:35:38 you've ever heard. Ever heard. And that's why I like... He didn't geek out to my stories. I geeked out to his stories. I'm like, that's so cool. I remember when I met my wife oh dude I say please tell this story I said I was like I was listening because I like knew she was gonna be the one I was like listen it's probably um probably gonna hear a lot of things I think people are coming up and say stuff and she's going like well you know know various different stories happened and i go i just want you to know all of them are true she was like everything and then are you gonna tell

Starting point is 01:36:10 that story well yeah then she goes to goes uh there was this one girl or there's a somebody was saying there was like yeah one time aj came out at a party with just a hat on his his hammer and uh was walking around and and she looks at me i go that's that's true babe i did that and she's like well it sounds like my husband it was like will you tell at least a version of your meeting meeting your wife story oh yeah yeah that's easy yeah this this this story defines it on the hammer story so this story defines AJ. We got the hat on the hammer story. This story defines AJ. So I just wanted to, well, the hat on the hammer, I just wanted to see if I could carry a Stetson and walk into a room,

Starting point is 01:36:52 and I accomplished the mission. I'm in Connor's face right now. Connor's like, huh. What he's not saying is it was a small Stetson. Yeah, it was one of those ones they put on monkeys. No, it was that Turd Ferguson hat. Hey! I'm Turd Ferguson.

Starting point is 01:37:12 I've got a few cocktails. But no, when I was in Vegas, I hadn't really slept the night before, and I was going to my buddy... Why not? What's that? Why not? That's gambling. We literally... It'd be like that. that it'd be like we just went to bed

Starting point is 01:37:27 last week at like six in the morning from gambling and so it went right to the i was wearing a suit from the night before because we had some other dinner thing that we went to it wasn't really that i'd wear suits a lot but i just had been wearing it and i was like fuck it we're going over to this it was a wet that wet club it was a wet republic republic yeah so i was like i was with my buddy i'm like i don't know that one let's just let's just go to the actual uh the pool i'm like let's not go back to the room it was at another hotel i'm like well i'll just buy shorts there so we stop by like store grab some short stuff show up to the thing the party's going and as i walk in i see this smoke show in the hot tub in a yellow bikini.

Starting point is 01:38:05 And I'm like, oh, my God. That girl is so hot. And I am in that zone of, like, zero fucks. You're a machine. You're, like, in the zone. My eyes are bloodshot, but I just saw her, and I was, like, talking to her. So the waitress was going by. I grabbed, like, two Coronas.

Starting point is 01:38:19 I jumped in the hot tub, fully dressed in my suit. Like, shoes, everything. Got in beside her. And she turns around. She's like, what the fuck? She's like, why are you wearing a suit in the hot tub, fully dressed in my suit, like shoes, everything, got in beside her. And she turns around, she's like, what the fuck? She's like, why are you wearing a suit in the hot tub? I'm like, why are you wearing a bikini? And I handed her a beer and I ended up wearing it. And then we were together pretty much ever since.

Starting point is 01:38:43 That was my entrance. And truthfully, if I had not done that, I don't think I'd had the balls to go up or catch her attention. She was like, okay, all right. And then that was,

Starting point is 01:38:53 so that's how I met my wife. I haven't told my kids that, so we've told them a very different story. But one day they'll hear that. How old are your kids? I got twin boys. They're six.

Starting point is 01:39:03 Turn seven next month. Yeah, that's a little young for that yeah my daughter's my daughter's uh uh 11 so yes they get the disney version right now the disney version versus the original german fairy tale i have a funny story with tyler when uh so when when you go do the show uh when it when it after gets picked up after uh um so you shoot a pilot you don't know if it's going to get picked up so you go away for like a month rarely do pilots get yeah it's super rare and um we knew that we had had um uh uh like a good shot but you didn't know there was all sorts of things and it was like yeah it was it was all this thing like

Starting point is 01:39:42 it does the audience want us there was three shows, military shows that were coming out that year. So I had to, we finally get picked up. We had to in radio city music music hall where they do the announcement back then it was called the upfronts and all of the fucking press shot there. Like all the press from around the world. And the studio has a day where they introduce the cast to the world. Right. And this is huge.

Starting point is 01:40:04 This is stuff you dream about as an actor. Like when I was on CSI New York, I was number eight on the call sheets. has a day where they introduce the cast to the world right and this is huge announcement this is stuff you dream about as an actor like when i was on csi new york i was number eight on the call sheet so i never got to go on the trips it was basically one two three and four that would go or it'd be one and two so this is my very first and you know 25 years in the industry at the time or 22 years in the industry i was part of this and i was like oh this is like and i remember even like reading i was like it got emotional like this is like, and I remember even like reading, I was like, I got emotional. Like, this is like, wow, this is finally happening. Get to Radio Music Studio.

Starting point is 01:40:31 And I remember Les Moonves, who was the president of CBS at the time, walked by. He's like, AJ, good to have you back. I was like, dude, you remember my name? I'm like, holy shit. This moment is like, couldn't get better. So they have us there an hour early for a tech rehearsal just to walk through. So the cameras catch us, all that. Tell us how it's going to go because it's live and all the people are there.

Starting point is 01:40:49 So I'm like, this is great. You have my publicist with me. We're all high-fiving and like Dave Boreanaz goes out and Dave Boreanaz, blah, blah, blah. And turns out- The guy from Bones? Yeah. He's the lead on the show. And they said, when you walk out, you're going to hit this mark, audience and press.

Starting point is 01:41:03 It's like the photo line, take, you know, there's a thousand pictures all the camera crew you sort of wave to them and then there's the audience of all the press and you turn around and there's like a 15 foot screen with like action shots of you from the show yeah it's fucking cool 15 by freaking 100 feet so radio series are called the Beatles have played there like Zeppelin everybody so I walk out and this is rehearsal and this is rehearsal, and I do the thing, and they're saying, there's going to be pictures here. Now turn, look at yourself up there. And I look up, and I'm like, hold on a second. I'm like, ma'am, just so, that's not me.

Starting point is 01:41:35 That's Tyler Gray. And they're like, who? I'm like, same shit. There's a two-minute action reel. Not one of them is me. It's all him. And I'm like, none of those are me. And it says, A.J. Buckley.

Starting point is 01:41:51 It's all him. Every single one. It's all him. That's genuinely very funny. He's the other beardy head guy. What about when you waited for it on an actor and the action reel is nothing but you and your name? Here's the best part.

Starting point is 01:42:08 So my partner's like, we have to fix this. They're like, okay, we'll try to do it. And they come back, we don't have enough time, but we just have to be able to fix it. I'm like, so I'm going to go out on my biggest moment of care, and it's fucking Tyler Gray? It says over, and they're like, sorry, it's nothing. So I literally introduced the world, and they're like, there's this video of literally,

Starting point is 01:42:21 I walk up, AJ Buckley, and it's like, Tyler, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee. That was it. That was like, I called that was it I was like I called him a lot he's like you motherfuckers he's like what there's been many times where people have asked yeah we're twin brothers me and Cody

Starting point is 01:42:37 we are actually born in the same year but they also say to be perfectly honest with you dude I honestly I told them yesterday. I literally didn't know. I thought... This is a true story. No joke.

Starting point is 01:42:50 I thought Donut's real name was Brandon Herrera. He did not know. I had no idea it was two people. I had no idea. I just... You know, I don't... In your defense, they were literally wearing the same shirt today. Like social media, I just didn't know. I never... I don't, I'm not. In your defense, they were literally wearing the same shirt today. Like social media.

Starting point is 01:43:06 Like, I just didn't know. I, I, I never, I don't usually, I'm very bad at YouTube and all that stuff. I just didn't know. And then when you told me, I was like, oh shit. That makes so much sense. Two different guys. Well, I had never seen you guys in the same place at the same time. Just saying.

Starting point is 01:43:24 Fair enough. Like on a podcast. Yeah, well, I'd only met him. I'd seen you once in passing. I'd literally met him once in passing. And it just wasn't a long enough conversation where I really clocked. I never saw it, frankly. But we get it so much in public.

Starting point is 01:43:42 Just like, oh, are you brothers? Or that sort of thing. It was literally Shasho. We've told it before. But it was a guy walking past Brandon. Brandon Cody guy walks and says

Starting point is 01:43:58 hey to Cody, like hey, I appreciate all you do in Texas and blah blah. Because he said he shouted like, Brandon, Brandon and walked past me and I'm just like, I just hang back and go this is hilarious basically gets his selfie, turns, looks at Brandon and be like

Starting point is 01:44:15 oh he said oh I mean that's great, that's awesome and like Cody gives me the challenge coin, he's like I believe he meant to give this to you wow yeah that's my god he must have felt like a asshole pretty much just like me that's hilarious it's it's funny to me like we we just fucking leaned into it man it's like what else can you do yeah yeah i mean we i kind of the same with him and i we didn't really see it and then it happened quite a few times where people would like, you know,

Starting point is 01:44:47 call me AJ or vice versa. And then like he said, we just started going with it and, you know, introducing ourselves as twin brothers. Cody's gone a step farther. He just has started to accept it. Like when people think that, yeah.

Starting point is 01:44:57 It's like, Oh, Hey Brandon. He's like, yes, I am. And we'll have a full conversation answering questions for me. Jeez. You guysez you guys are pretty

Starting point is 01:45:07 I mean but you do different things but I guess you're together sometimes my favorite is still somebody at Shosha him thinking he was Brandon somebody thought I was Brandon in front of Brandon

Starting point is 01:45:23 this is the first time we were all like this. Slightly different. He looks very Herrera-ish. The far more Aryan tattooed guy. Thank you, thank you. My son loves you. I love what you do for Texas. And at that moment we were like, she thinks he's Brandon.

Starting point is 01:45:41 Us three are having this conversation. I have to ask. he's branded okay so we all us three are having this conversation on the side more like i see yeah she does okay i have to ask i have to ask just because i don't know and i don't and i'm not i'm literally not saying this jokingly what do you do for texas uh so i ran for congress oh no shit yeah okay yeah san antonio to el paso that district awesome so just big in like the two way politics and just like the conservative politics in general oh cool yeah yeah that's awesome was it your first run yeah yeah i've never never gotten into politics uh ever before i ran against

Starting point is 01:46:14 the incumbent here in uh well i mean that's a rough one but he put it in a runoff it was a it's a district where it's like it's a Republican district like a republicans are going to win in this district But I primaried him we passed the primary so we in Texas runoff state So if you get below 50% you're put into a special election with the the people that came in first and second So I I forced him into a runoff election where he spent a out spent me ten to one to try to keep his job And how much? We still were within 1%. How much money was spent? I don't know, 12 million, roughly. Wow.

Starting point is 01:46:51 He had to slander me in the town I live in. You're like, okay, how about this? Next year, you give me 8, and we'll call it a deal. That's cold. I just won't run. A crime. Can't do that. Less.

Starting point is 01:47:04 Scriberies. Brandon's like, I'm not doing that. Politicians would never commit crimes. Some of the funniest political ads you've ever seen in your life are against him. Cody has a mailer that got sent out to everybody

Starting point is 01:47:20 in the district of a cartoon with Brandon's real face on it of a dude wearing an enormous cowboy hat is Brandon Herrera's all hat, no cattle. That's the whole thing. It was so bad. Oh, and it was,

Starting point is 01:47:36 some of them were so funny. Like there was one where it's like, Brandon Herrera doesn't understand Texas. Cause he's not blah, blah, blah, like a bunch of like crazy shit. But it ended the ad with some of the

Starting point is 01:47:46 clips from my YouTube like years ago where I was doing a skit and it's me wearing like the coke dealer shades like with like my face full of white powder like they literally included that at the end of the ad I'm like this is actually so funny

Starting point is 01:48:00 that's the sign in there let's go Brandon let's go Brandon and now it's good. Yeah, politics is good. That's the sign in there. Let's go. Let's go, Brandon. Literally. Let's go, Brandon. And now he's currently in consideration to be the new head of the ATF. Are you serious? So the story about that, RFK had a website that he put up right after Trump won. It was Make America Healthy Again.

Starting point is 01:48:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was nominees for the people, where people could nominate their own, like, basically for people they thought would be good for certain cabinet positions. I had nothing to do with this, but somebody threw my name in for director of the ATF, Bureau of Alcohol,

Starting point is 01:48:37 Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. It got more votes than any other single nominee on the entire website. Wow. Really? And it became a legitimate conversation for a minute. Wow.

Starting point is 01:48:49 That would be awesome. For a minute? Though the thing I said at SHOT Show, I've had to come up with a canned line. It's going to be a really funny story when I can tell it. Okay. I like it. Okay. That's fair.

Starting point is 01:49:02 Yeah. It's a weird thing. I'm sure you guys... Yeah. That's fair. It's a weird thing. I'm sure you guys. Yeah. That's fair. Then I got bored and made Tony the most dishonest politician. I actually made a joke. I just realized that I made a joke on the interwebs about this,

Starting point is 01:49:18 and I just didn't realize it was you. Somebody had. I didn't even put it together. It was you. But it was like I realized now it was like Brandon Herrera for for Brandon Herrera for ATF director and then I had this is probably when I hadn't I was confused on and then I looked at I'm really you too I don't I never watch YouTube so I'm just so bad at it.

Starting point is 01:49:45 But so anyways, then I went to your page. I'm like, oh, that's obviously a joke. This guy's a huge 2A guy. So then I went back and I posted, yeah, it would be awesome on his first day that he makes himself unemployed. Basically saying abolish the ATF. I thought it was a good joke. I thought it was funny. I thought I was joking, but I was just stating the obvious.

Starting point is 01:50:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah. On his first day, he makes himself unemployed. That's the end goal. Yeah, that's funny. I mean, you know, it's like... I mean, you'd never have a director of the FAA who fucking hates airplanes. Yeah. Dude, I...

Starting point is 01:50:23 Who's their interim guy? So, Steven Dettelbach just resigned. Yeah. I did. Who's their interim guy? They just sit down. So Steven Dettelbach just resigned. Yeah. Um, they don't have, so the ATF is a weird case for like at the last like two decades there, I think has been more time where there wasn't an actual confirmed director than the times that there was.

Starting point is 01:50:39 So like, it's been a lot of acting directors, um, but not a lot of actual, like Senate confirmed directors. I mean, do the ATF, I, you know, I've had an interesting experience with the ATF. I've been interviewed by them twice on, actually three times, but on just random stuff. It's just crazy what someone says something, and the ATF's like, hey, what's the deal with this? And you're like, I don't even know what you're talking about.

Starting point is 01:51:07 But, um, what's interesting to me about the ATF is like, I've each time I've had to talk to them in my experience with them, as long as you're like, just, you know, it's like dealing with cops, you know, you're like, Hey dude, this is what it is. Like, they've been really cool every time I've had to deal with them. Um, but also because you know i'm not doing anything wrong and i just you know tell them uh uh you know i'm able to be very honest but in my experience and i think it's probably what you're what you're getting at it's like it it matters more where they're from because like an atf field agent from hawaii or new jersey is going to behave way different than one from Tennessee or Texas. Because all of my field agents, anybody I've ever had do my interviews or whatever, they've always been rad as fuck.

Starting point is 01:51:57 I've been lucky. I've been the same. I've had a good experience when I've dealt with them. In my experience, the ATF, it just comes down to anything with the government. As long as you're paying your vig to the government, you can do what you want. As soon as you freaking try and go around them, that's when they ask you. Punishable by fine means legal for a fee. There you go.

Starting point is 01:52:22 My dealings with ATF, they've been cool with me and I've had really cool agents. Um, and it's just like, but again, it's, uh, it's scary because you know that if you get the wrong experience, they can put the hammer down on you for things that really are, you know what I mean? It's to justify their budget or whatever the fuck. It's a scary situation to deal with them, even if you're not doing anything wrong, because you know the power they have. And that is where I think, as a government,

Starting point is 01:52:55 if you're not doing anything wrong, you as a person shouldn't have that fear. That's my opinion. You know what I mean? If I'm not doing anything wrong, I shouldn't have the fear that, and I don't care who it is, federal law enforcement, law enforcement, if I'm not doing anything wrong, I shouldn't have any fear. And the fact that we do in our current society, because of the amount of power they have and what they can do, I think that needs to change in my opinion.

Starting point is 01:53:18 And I hate that because of politics, you get the Janet Reno's, the Bill Clinton administration, like that sort of thing, where like, even with Waco, it's like he could make the argument. It's like, yeah, we probably should talk to this guy a while ago. But he even said it like in the VHS tapes, like the David Koresh. He's like, I go jogging every morning. You could have like, I have a good relationship with the sheriff. You could have talked to me at any point. Why did this become a siege where you have to fucking bake 20 kids alive?

Starting point is 01:53:53 Like that's absurd i i mean i've watched quite a lot on on on waco i mean you know or do you know that they had an undercover agent i've heard that no it's i mean it's a fact yeah that's a fact like and what i did an undercover an undercover or a ci no no under straight up undercover in the in they had an undercover agent in the church so dude i mean and in two from the things i've read i wasn't there i actually had a friend that was uh an atf agent at waco and dude he told me some bananas stuff about uh just a bunch of things about how crazy that situation was. I can only imagine. Dude, I mean, just stuff that he told me. I was like, that is unbelievable.

Starting point is 01:54:30 But the point being is, you know, in that agent's defense from what I read and watched, you know, he himself was like, dude, what are we doing? It's truck month at gmc tackle the open road with added confidence in a 2025 sierra 1500 pro graphite at zero percent financing for up to 72 months with an available 5.3 liter v8 engine 20 inch high gloss black painted aluminum wheels off-road suspension with available two inch factory installed lift kit plus a towing capacity of up to 13 200 pounds you'll be ready for anything this truck month. Truck month is on now. Ask your GMC dealer for details.

Starting point is 01:55:10 What do you mean he's like? People don't know how crazy it was. It is. People are shooting machine guns from a helicopter into a church. The whole situation is bananas. And the more you learn about it, the more bananas it is. The first time I learned about the ATF, I did a show called Narcos.

Starting point is 01:55:28 He just dropped out. I didn't even know you were a Narcos. Season one of Narcos. He played Pablo. So did I. When we first got the script and we started, when I was cast,

Starting point is 01:55:43 that was the story of how the ATF was formed. Their interrogation, or their investigation of Pablo. And then one of the guys that Boyd Holbrook played, that was like their first big mission where they're flying over and getting... The, like, reconnaissance stuff. Reconnaissance sort of stuff. But going over there and meeting some of the original players in Colombia. Because we filmed in. Medellin.

Starting point is 01:56:09 We filmed all over, but we were in. Medellin. The other one. Cali. Bogota. Bogota. Which I don't know if you guys have ever been to Bogota before. It is.

Starting point is 01:56:19 I can't sleep there. It's like the altitude every time I lay down. It's higher than Denver. By a lot. Yeah. By a lot. Awesome. Awesome place but um the guy oh no yeah yeah true doesn't involve a hat no there was no hat oh no no uh that's worse yeah yeah yeah, it was crazy how like what that whole time of that agency and what they sort of went through and what they were up against with Pablo and the trade.

Starting point is 01:56:53 Are you talking about ATF or DEA? The ATF. Oh, okay. Because I would have thought DEA. I didn't know ATF was involved. Yeah, ATF was involved. Because this would have been what, mid-80s? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:57:04 Late 80s by the time. The ATF had to fight the hippos. Ah, fair. Yes. It was like, yeah, it was probably all branches. I think it was like, from what I was, and I could be shitting the bed on this, but from what I was, this is like one of the first big missions of, of that entire team. But to see the people on the ground and what happened there and like that, just the technology from where they were then to what everybody has now, like with those planes that would go over and.

Starting point is 01:57:32 Dude, surveillance as a whole took off during that time. That was when we learned. Yeah. They were flying over with these planes and just sort of picking up. And listening to people based on the sound of their voice, which is fucking crazy. Dude, I'll tell you, I'll tell you a Columbia Pablo story.

Starting point is 01:57:49 So when I was in – well, first of all – Who the fuck are you guys, man? So when I went to – well, first of all, when we filmed in Columbia for SEAL Team, we filmed in one of – now, granted, when I say one of Pablo Escobar's's like houses dude he probably had 200 houses you know i was a billionaire so they turned his plane into an airbnb yeah yeah yeah that's crazy yeah but we stayed we we filmed in one of them but anyways when i was in um when i was in uh medellin we just my buddy and i at the time were like dude let's like let's go check out some pablo escobar shit so too we went to his gravesite.

Starting point is 01:58:25 We went to the neighborhood where he dealt drugs, which is not a place to go today, let me tell you. That was a bad idea. Yeah, it was really dangerous. And then, we went all over the place. Let me go to the place where somebody who dealt drugs could get so

Starting point is 01:58:41 powerful he became his own government. It was really dangerous i don't think we fit yeah it was yeah it was really dangerous but anyways we ended up going to um if we like paid this guy like a bunch of money and was just like uh you know there's no ubers taxi app we're basically like take us where pablo was killed and that was like what we said and he's like uh okay so we go to this um place and then we were like we got let out spoiler alert i'm on season two and he was wrong and then we're literally with broken spanish we're like where did pablo get killed and dude we probably asked 10 people and they're like, you know, finally we get to the spot. Right. And I look up and, and, and this is the house. Now, first of all, the house

Starting point is 01:59:32 that he was killed on no longer exists. And it's, uh, it's been, I don't know if the whole house was torn down. I don't remember, but the exact spot is, is different. Right. And so I looked up images and I was, you know, matching it and everything. And we figured out we're standing across from where he was killed. And I'm there. Now I was a sniper for years, right? And I'm there and I'm like looking at this house and I'm looking at the image back in 90, whatever it was, three, whatever, or two. And I'm like, I'm like looking at it, I'm looking at it. And then I'm reading the account of like how he died. And I'm looking at the it and then I'm reading the account of like how he died and I'm looking at the location

Starting point is 02:00:08 and then I look around and I'm like this doesn't fit like this just doesn't fit there's no way he was killed by the way the account says because I'm standing here looking at it I have also been to Dealey Plaza

Starting point is 02:00:24 laughter so says because I'm standing here looking at it. I'm looking at the train. I have also been to Dealey Plaza. So basically I'm there and I'm like looking around. I'm like there's no way the official account and so anyways I called somebody that would be in the know and they were like, they were like, yeah, like, what do you notice? And I'm like, well, there's, there's no way for a person to shoot from to do what he said. And they're like, so what's the only option? And I'm like, I said something and he goes, you don't need to ask any more questions and i was like okay so i'll just say

Starting point is 02:01:06 without explaining it if you go there and you look and you read the official account you'll you'll put together there's only yeah we're gonna totally i'm not gonna explain. I'm just saying you'll figure out what must have happened if you go there. The train doesn't support the official account.

Starting point is 02:01:36 I said I've also been to Dealey Plaza. Well, that's going to be coming out soon. You missed a golden opportunity when you were on the phone. Next question, did JFK's head really just do that? So first of all, or not first, but second of all, like, dude, I read this thing recently about JFK,

Starting point is 02:02:00 and I'm like, there's no way that's true. And I look it up, and it is true. It's like, I didn't know his brain was missing from the National Archives. Yeah, that was weird. I was like, what? That was like a legit thing. His brain was stolen

Starting point is 02:02:15 from the National Archives. Look it up! Some guy who signed his fucking guest name as CIA. He's like, John Smith agent. John. But dude, look it up. His brain

Starting point is 02:02:32 was basically went missing from the National Archives. Out of the back of a Lincoln. Lyndon Baines Smithson stole his brain. But you know what I'm saying? My point that I'm making is the you know, the conspiracy of JFK. I mean, you hear this from years.

Starting point is 02:02:49 And yet I never heard about the missing brain. I'm like, dude, that's a big piece of the puzzle that supports the fact that something happened that we don't know. Are we going to get into the JFK thing right now? Well, I think we're already in there, buddy. All right. I think when he said JFK brain, it opened the conversation. Do we really want to when he said jfk i mean look i'll say this i'll say this about it when i watched a recent like when i watched a recent i don't remember the the name of this documentary but i watched a documentary on on jfk again this was like three years ago and it makes a case on who killed him and i was like

Starting point is 02:03:28 it makes a case on who killed him it's a pretty solid case dude like which one it's the one that base it doesn't say it but it it basically details his connection to the mob basically says the mob put him in office basically explains the connection with jfk and the mob to cuba yeah talks about the bay of pigs and like that whole thing the narrative that they like i'm like okay a bunch of pissed off cia boys that got well well see but see that's the thing is it it it basically says look the cia was pissed the mob was pissed the crazy connection that i thought was pretty damning and this was just my personal feeling on it was the guy that killed lee harvey oswald again if i'm wrong don't quote me was a straight up mob hitman yes yes like not debatably not conspiracy theory-esque, like cut and dry a mob hitman.

Starting point is 02:04:26 So then you go... You didn't know that, Eli? No. Dude, like, that's not a conspiracy theory. That's like just a known fact. That is a known fact. That is a known fact that the guy who killed Lee Harvey Oswald was a mob hitman.

Starting point is 02:04:41 Fact. So once you put all those facts together, you go, okay, dude. There's a lot more, in my mind, it was a lot more of a clearer picture. I believe the mob helped him get elected. Oh, dude, I absolutely believe that. What did his wife say to his wife? She said, I want them to see what they've done to Jack.

Starting point is 02:05:03 She wouldn't take off her dress. I remember seeing him. I'm like, why would she say something like that? They're like, who's what they've done? Who are they? What they? And then you got LBJ and the governor. Because she wouldn't take the blood off.

Starting point is 02:05:13 She wore the dress, everything on her. Fucking good on her. They're on Air Force One and LBJ. And fuck, I can't remember his name. But they're throwing each other the fucking okay and wanking at each other. Dude, that's, see, that's another part where you're like, whoa. You don't know this? No, I don't know this.

Starting point is 02:05:31 I've done zero. The only thing I know about the JFK assassination is that it didn't happen the way they said it did. There's like four theories that I'm like, oh, those all kind of hold their own water a little bit, but like the official story is so bad. This has nothing to do with cameras. I mean, dude, again, though, as a sniper, dude, every time like sniper stuff comes up in the media,

Starting point is 02:05:51 you know, I know enough to... Did you fart? Yeah. But I know, I know... The hatred in your voice. I know enough to like, you know, I know enough to comment, you know what I mean? Like when the, the secret service happens stuff, I was like, Oh my dear God.

Starting point is 02:06:09 You know, I just, you know, I did it for, you know, almost five years. Like I, you know, I, I know long range or that job, you know, not, I know well enough. I hate how much you now believe shit. It sounds like you're... Joe Shmoff, you do. He's like, I watched a couple videos. I shot 10 rounds. No, I mean, but it was a job I liked a lot.

Starting point is 02:06:32 So, you know, I studied it pretty in depth. And I remember years ago, like when I first started, I just remember thinking about like Lee Harvey Oswald, you know, like the, for lack of a better term, the logistics, I don't know if that's the right word of those shots. And it just, with everything at the time and the rounds and the timing. And I remember shooting a bolt rifle at the time and just being like, dude,

Starting point is 02:06:57 either this dude. And I don't mean, you know, look, he's a session, but I mean, technically I'm like like either this dude was a savage like just really technically proficient ripping it or the story is not true you know and i and i'm just saying that was my takeaway from doing the logistics of and then looking at the the the angle and the freaking distance and the moving target speed and i'm like i'm not buying i mean even the governor standing where in doubt it was in dallas right where yeah there's yeah do they have do they have it all marked out still like can you see where no no because they got rid of one of the buildings i believe well no they still have the uh like they mark it in the street there's like a real like i thought something changed though that if i'm not mistaken something changed and the reason i'm

Starting point is 02:07:49 saying that is i think something changed and again i could be wrong but i thought something changed so that they couldn't recreate it perfectly so the book where the book repository is still there um and it's funny because they have a plaque there on it where like it's like a thing no matter how many times they replace it people still carve out with knives allegedly like we're lee harvey oswald allegedly it's like fucking yeah yeah but uh yeah there's there's a there's a lot of shit about that that's just kind of sideways what's on like your level of proficiency and still saying it's like man that is i would have trouble with that or could you replicate that for yourself where you're like i can do it but maybe like one at 10 times i from what again it's been a while i don't

Starting point is 02:08:35 remember there's two perfect shots right i from what i remember from what i remember and again it's been a long time but again there was at that one point where I looked at the data and then was like, oh, let me try and replicate this. And again, obviously, I wasn't in the same location. I wasn't at the same distance. But I just remember at the time looking at everything and thinking, I don't think I could do it. You know what I mean? I remember being pretty good at that time and thinking i don't think i could pull this off and and again i from what i remember i remember thinking maybe in perfect conditions maybe after a couple rehearsals you know if it was not

Starting point is 02:09:15 but but but i remember at the time thinking well he did hit i mean he hit the governor that was the thing the governor even was like was throwing shade on the official story he's like that didn't happen that way oh really like one of the one of the two guys who got shot he's like that's not lower back it was almost like the governor was like daddy shot in the face uh so allegedly two allegedly two but supposedly three yeah and how different is uh the bolt action back then to like a bolt action there's something else if i'm not mistaken harvey oswald i think he was left-handed really there's something weird that uh was using a lefty rifle no i'm trying to remember but there was some factor

Starting point is 02:09:59 again i don't remember what it was but there was some additional factor of his of him manipulating the gun I don't remember what it is I I shot a bolt-action gun left-handed what the we have you know it's way weirder because all Oswald was right-handed but had left master I and shot from the left shoulders oh that's that's what it was there you go we're that's what it was. There you go. That's what it was. So if you're right-hand dominant, if you're right-handed, you will still train right-eyed dominant, especially sniper position. He had LBJ whispering in his right ear. He shot right-handed still with the left shoulder?

Starting point is 02:10:41 He's shooting what he's doing. Right-handed, left shoulder, left shooting what he's doing left right-handed left shoulder left eye oh i hate that so personally personally so this is now what i remember that's what's being said i'm pretty confident i could be wrong here they didn't see him fucking shooting i'm pretty confident that if he was left eye dominant i'm pretty confident he shot it left-handed which means he would have to manipulate the bolt. This was what I recreated. He would have to manipulate the bolt over the scope racket left-handed, which I used to shoot a bolt.

Starting point is 02:11:18 This is why I remember it. I used to shoot a bolt gun left-handed because I'm left eye dominant. So that's why I remember he was the same as me. And I remember thinking, dude, shooting a bolt action, a left, a right-hand bolt action left-handed adds quite a bit of effort. Not only does it add a ton of effort to go over the bolt and rack the bolt. So that adds a ton of time, but much more importantly, if you are right-handed shooting a bolt gun you can fire right and you just go from the trigger up back down you really don't break or move your position very much so it allows you to stay boom boom

Starting point is 02:11:59 left-handed now you're going boom you have to break completely off the scope racket and then come in and completely reacquire your target. For the speed of the follow-up shot. There's no freaking way. And again that's that was the part that I was like there's no way. I heard one thing that I found out after I made my that's your thumbnail right I made my game video. I was made aware the JFK narrative. Operator comes clean on the JFK assassination.

Starting point is 02:12:50 LBJ did it, confirmed. Listen up. You're not a clickbait, not a sexual. The FBI will come to my door again. And they're like, fuck you watching karaoke. It's literally just like the meme of like, you, you look through the little like porthole. It was like, and it's cash the tell.

Starting point is 02:13:10 I think on that note, Trav's going to close this out. But before Trav closes this out, where do we find you beautiful sons of bitches on social media and TV? I'm just at AJ Buckley, AJ Buckley. And Instagram is probably the best way. And then our new Two Fake Seals is a...

Starting point is 02:13:29 Two Fake Seals? The one thing I meant to ask about before we started the podcast. Two Fake Seals is our new podcast and show that we just started releasing, which is basically about... It's just AJ and I. The genesis of the show was when the China blues over our house in South Carolina in my neighbors think they kept calling the chain blues You see from the backyard with me so that my neighbors recall all the Chinese guys, holy shit, he's holding a hat up.

Starting point is 02:14:07 Very impressive. Can we get an Eli Holry shit real quick? Oh, shit. But the neighbors kept calling me going, like, AJ, what do we do? What's going to happen? I'm like, dude, I don't know, man. I'm an actor. They're behind you. People just assume

Starting point is 02:14:25 because I play Sonny Quinn and I'm a Texan on the show that I have all the answers and people generally in our neighborhood will still call me or in general be like what's going to happen I'm like I don't know dude I sit in the trailer I wear makeup I have a stunt double I drink a latte like I'm not the It's going down the run into your house

Starting point is 02:14:41 and like what do we do That's another show a full onon another tv show an up-class neighborhood where an actor that played a navy seal becomes the badass i think it's called galaxy quest which is a great underrated film fantastic well we came back and uh i was like talking to tyler i'm like dude you should put the post seal team we should have you actually taking me out into the real world. And cause you're, you know, been a survivalist,

Starting point is 02:15:08 reading books in this and prepping and stuff since you were like 10 years old. I'm like, and we'll just go across and you'd fucking teach me how to do all this shit. And we'll stop off and talk to preppers and, you know, just learn shit along the way. And then Ty was like, we should call it two fake seals. I'm like and then we googled such a good and then uh and then we we um we ended up working with ford and and at total off-road and they're building the big we actually pick up the big richard in baton rouge yeah uh two days yeah so we go pick it up drive the the truck the tremor

Starting point is 02:15:40 um to uh to total off-road in south carolina Carolina they're gonna do a big build on it and it'll be a mobile podcast yeah we'll be driving around so come through here again with yeah we'll have we're gonna have like the toy trailer that will pull it and that'll be the studio that'll be the studio in the Little Richard and then you'll have the it's the bill that they're doing on the some of the stuff that the early it's crazy it's pretty so it's gonna be cool and then each at the end of each season will raffle off the bigger it's the bill that they're doing on the, some of the stuff that the early, it's crazy. It's pretty, so it's going to be cool. And then each at the end of each season, we'll raffle off the big Richard,

Starting point is 02:16:07 that'd be Richard, big Richard 2.0. Um, so, and really like the whole overland community and stuff. I really love it. Off grid, overland,

Starting point is 02:16:15 like self reliance. We just, we basically want to freaking do that. We love. Yeah. Yeah. But we want to take the, you know,

Starting point is 02:16:22 kind of the, you know, prepper used to be, dude, I've been a survivalist nerd since I was a little kid. Gun fanatic, and I've always been that guy. And, you know, COVID changed things. Because COVID, it was like, oh, you were a weird survivalist prepper person.

Starting point is 02:16:34 Now we're cool. And then COVID, dude, we became cool. Just like, dude, I was a Star Wars nerd when it wasn't cool. Guess who it is? Totally. I had, I shit you not, I probably had 100,000 rounds in my garage. I got 1,000 guns. I mean, crazy.

Starting point is 02:16:53 And then I'm like sitting there and I'm like, toilet paper. I didn't see this coming. I'm like, I have everything, but I didn't stock up on toilet paper. Such a mild concern. I was like yeah I mean true I was like you know 100,000 rounds means you have your neighbor's toilet paper exactly the point is

Starting point is 02:17:13 you give me your toilet paper we can cause 100,000 rounds guess who's king of toilet paper now motherfucker what am I going to eat in the apocalypse your food I was like Todd when we were just discussing

Starting point is 02:17:29 ideas of the show I'm like well what were we doing he's like no one's going to go out to the woods so I'm going to teach you how to like survive in the city I'm like well we do he goes we're taking over a fucking Walmart that Walmart is going to be ours survivalist situation I'm like dude I'll take over a Walmart I'll be the king of Walmart

Starting point is 02:17:44 a solid concrete building with three entries dude I can hold that I can hold that with my homies and then dude you want cereal deal with the king of Walmart king Tyler whatever king Tyler

Starting point is 02:18:00 king of loss prevention but so we went on full circle you want to take my cocoa puffs You're not going to have the $1,000 shopping list. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like Count Chocula, you know? So it was just one of those things where people now know it fires. I mean, dude, part of LA burned down. So the point being is what people thought was impossible

Starting point is 02:18:26 they're now seeing dude anything can happen so just that mentality you're no longer the weird prepper people realize that anything can happen at any time and i think people are ready to start listening how to take care of care of themselves and not be in a position where they constantly have to rely on other but, let alone the government. But also, too, take it, take away the doom and gloom from it and really play into the comedy of it. If they're laughing, they're listening.

Starting point is 02:18:53 Not make it so serious. That's the show. Have fun. Take the piss out of me while I make a complete ass of myself and do that. Even today, where we're talking about how fun it's going to be just to like go do that we want to go do like and go you know like kind of like what you guys yeah that's what you guys really inspiring create you know create you know monetize your hobbies and just take what we like doing we're

Starting point is 02:19:18 doing the show because it's what we like doing we like that space we like learning new products great companies great people and and that's what the show is and then traveling around the country of me learning the stuff on the way well we have that sort of as the viewer will be through my eyes learning how to survive in the real world and great ideas like that's a fun idea yeah it's like we're psyched so yeah really really really excited to do it and honestly thank you thank you so much for having us, man, because you guys are legends in this space, so it's really awesome to get to meet y'all and be here with you.

Starting point is 02:19:49 We're legends. You guys have the best stories. I think we're going like, we're still playing. Have you ever heard of this guy called Ronald Reagan? We're like, oh, fuck. Tell the fucking story. But yeah, on that note,

Starting point is 02:20:07 check us out at TwoFakeSeals on Instagram. And then my Tyler A. Gray at Instagram, or on Instagram, whatever. And again, as AJ said, thanks so much for having us, guys. And it's absolutely awesome to come onto the show. You guys are crushing it, and we really appreciate you having us. Any day, all day.

Starting point is 02:20:26 It's been a genuine pleasure to have you guys. This has been fun as fuck. Awesome. Thanks, guys. JFK, question mark, question mark, question mark. It was the driver. See you guys later. We're wrapping up.

Starting point is 02:20:37 Thank you so much for joining us on the Unsubscribe podcast. I was joined today by Mr. Eli Doubletap, Mr. Fat Electrician, Mr. AJ Buckley. Thank you. Sorry. Mr. Tyler Gray. We got... Donut Operator. Donut Herrera.

Starting point is 02:21:00 Brandon... Donut Herrera. There it is. Thank you. And I I as always am Donut Operator or King Crowd depending on who you ask thank you for joining us

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