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Episode Date: June 9, 2025

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Say hi to Eli He's racially ambiguous and random His hair is f***ing fabulous and donut A dark, doped disposition And there's a fat electrician Hi everyone, welcome to the Unsubscribe Podcast. I am joined today by Eli Double Tap, Dr. Alex Miller Colonel Butler Brandon Herrera myself don't an operator Thank you so much for coming. Hi welcome everyone guys Damn good beer do we're excited to have you excited to be here. This is your first time it is I feel Dr. Alex

Fine, here's how here's went down. I said to General George, hey I'm going on unsubscribed podcast and he was like yeah great Alex is going with you. Super serious like you're not going alone. Oh yeah. He didn't trust you. Well Alex really knows what he's talking about. I kind of know. No I just use very fancy words and people trust me. He's a doctor. He gave you the, you got to bring your little brother. If you go totally flat. Good.

You're taking Alex with you. Yes, sir. Of course. Yeah. I'm surprised they like, how was it after the first episode aired for you guys? Was it the Pentagon? Yeah, the Pentagon one. It was like super positive response on eyesight and you actually were like holy shit this is a lot of positivity oh man yeah well I mean you guys bring a

very positive vibe and you know that's one of the reasons we love you that's one of the reasons your fans love you that's they bring the positive yeah we just got lucky yeah I don't know I I mean, you stay generally, you know, you like, you stay positive and it's just, first of all, it's a great freaking pod to listen to, but, um, so what was your reaction from the Pentagon? There were the haters. They're like, what are you doing? Uh, I got, I got a funny like team's message.

Are you promoting drinking in the Pentagon? I was like, uh, I don't think it needs to be promoted. I was like, wait, are you talking about the podcast or in general? Cause I have been known. But the forward thinking people are like, I'm so glad what you guys are doing, you know What what they see you guys do for the community for people interested in the military for just people Interested in general It's great. Yeah, I think it was a blast. I mean that was one of those staple like we still talk about that

It's one of those weird Holy shit. That was a thing I'm not surprised that there would be people in the pentagon that would be talking down about it but at the same time it's a It's quite an interesting thing considering just a few months prior, you know Every the entire world got to see what the medium of podcast did to I don't know. Let's say a presidential election That's right and see that power and go nah know, let's say a presidential election and see that power and go, nah.

But it's probably not it. Well, yeah, definitely not it. I guess, nah, that's not going to last. The other part is- Can we do more print media? All of it, long form, like newspapers. Just being able to communicate, right? So normally the Pentagon doesn't talk to the people.

We talk through all kinds of spokespeople and, you know, they sort of hear about it. So for leadership just to go, hey, I'm going to, I'm going to, we're going to have a conversation. We're just going to tell you what we're thinking. We're just going to be very open. That is antithetical to how a lot of bureaucrats were raised and being able to go from the chief and the chief spokesman and like people on the staff down to every private, every sergeant, every officer in the army go, Hey, here's what's happening. Unheard of. So the reaction from the force was they also want to drink white cloths, but it was, Hey, that's an awesome message. Thank you for doing that.

Yeah. Yeah. That's all. I mean, even from all of us, it was that standpoint and seeing behind the camera, because you did have specialists that were laughing in the background and you got to see you guys going to get to see them. But in the background, by the way, it's just an awesome experience. And one we will always remember. And I mean, you Google like fat electrician first person to drink officially. And that's like staple and AI now and everything see now dick slammed it We didn't know he's racing Did you see that with that part? Oh, yeah

The big announcement if I knew it was that special of a thing, because I knew it was like, oh wow, that's really cool that we get like a waiver for it. But I didn't know it was like first officially drank consumed alcoholic beverage in the Pentagon. Minus all the hidden speakeas. I don't want to rain on anybody's parade, but it's probably not the first alcoholic beverage consumed in the Pentagon. Officially. Officially.

Like signed off on. I mean, there's like, there's, there's a, what like you mean we were supposed to ask social occasions and stuff there. The process exists, but it was certainly the first one doing a podcast in Pentagon and on, you know, drinking a White Claw during a podcast. Anyway, I'm a spokesman. I can make it the first of anything. If you get an error.

Yeah. But I was, if, if we knew it was that special of an occasion, we would have probably chosen something other than a White Claw. I would have maybe like brought some, I don't know, decent bourbon or something for everybody. I actually, so the feedback, I, I did get some shit about that. Yeah. White claws really. And then I guess I said, I love the smell white claw in the morning. So people go to bed back to me. That's funny. I mean, Alex is a big white claw guy. So he was like, I'm soft and supple.

We, I mean, we probably would have got out like a bourbon of some type and then been completely shit wrecked by the end of it because we would have finished it. We should have got the bourbon. It would have been a very big race. Nick is still just slamming it. That would have been a harder exception. We're only drinking three bottles of bourbon. So, you know, I had to, remember I had to count the number of white cloths,

which we miscounted, but. The only person to ever say eight. The special eight pack. So what is it now after that, it's like, okay, hey, do we normalize that? Or is that like more people at the Pentagon podcast? Well, like podcast, anything at the Pentagon is like, okay, hey, let's start introducing this media for the military aspect of it.

Um, so we haven't, uh, but general George is like, we, we just made a big announcement. I hope, you know, we're going to talk about that here today, but we just made a big announcement, probably the most fundamental change of our lifetimes for the Army. And General George is like, get me on a bunch of podcasts. And Secretary of Justice goes right behind. And so, yeah, he that's the way he's thinking, at least, and, and we're trying to help him. But look, one of the reasons I'm on here today is to try to set the example for people that do my job. You're allowed to literally the first first thing in my title is public. So public affairs officers be public, talk to the people, talk to the media. You know we've got public affairs very senior

ranking public affairs officers that you can never find a quote from them or you can never find a place where they've ever been public and they keep continue to rise up to ranks. And that's not the whole job, but that's certainly part of the job. I mean, literally it says it in our job title. So one of the reasons I'm here is like, try to set, set the example for the whole field. Get out there, talk to people. How the hell do you do a public PR job and not

public? They put their bosses in front. They're like, I can't answer this question, but you know, General George can or whatever. And he keeps us close enough where we can answer any questions. Alex has been for the past week and a half, he's been on the hill answering questions to Congress as a representative of General George. It's been very fun. I've enjoyed every moment of it.

It's been terrifying. Sorry, I would not do that. Like that, I got to speak from somebody else and if I fuck up, it's for them. So that's a good point. That's something that we're always afraid of is, hey, what if I'm wrong? Okay, there is this very bad sort of mentality that you can never be wrong, and that's not true. So one of the things I actually learned from Dave was if you're wrong and it's not on purpose, it's okay, we can fix it. If you don't know, that's the problem. And I think that's what Dave's hitting out. Like a lot of the public affairs and I'm a technologist, right? So

And I think that's what Dave's hitting out. Like a lot of the public affairs, and I'm a technologist, right? So my job is to make sure I know and help. People who are uninformed are the ones that are not actually helping. So if they don't go out there and they say, hey, this is why we're doing it, then they're afraid to be in public.

They're afraid to get out front. And then they put their bosses in a terrible position because then they go, hey, my boss knows, and we don't know if that's true. Yeah. I go on a bath for true. Yeah I go on about for days. Yeah. Go on. Well the other thing is like we get and this is like traditional media but we get we get plenty of questions right to the Army and everything is email you know

everything is some curated response via email and there's a couple of great public affairs officers who you you know, I lean on and as soon as some, as soon as we get any question from the media, pick up the phone, go meet that person, explain all contacts. You want to talk to me on the record and people are like, you mean my name? Sure. I'll talk down the record. It's just super surprised.

But, but we should be proud of the stuff we're doing. I mean, we're doing, especially now we're doing some frigging amazing things. And so I'm like, yes, on the record, let's talk about it. Let's, you know, give me some of your time. Cause I'm going to tell you what the army's doing. And, uh, I don't know, we're doing good shit. So I think that like Brandon coming from your side, was that ever scary for you? It's like, Hey, I'm going, you spoke for yourself that entire campaign.

So it was always, oh, yeah. When I, when I did the politics, yeah, not really, just because I, I don't know, it's, it's a very similar culture where people are afraid to not know things. And so I, I, I did my homework. Like I knew a decent bit about what I was talking about, like the major core issues. And I did something where most people do their little stump speech and then they leave. I did like five minutes of this is who I am. This is what I think. Do you guys have questions? I did almost entirely Q and a, which I thrive in that.

Cause I just, I feel like it's people stop paying attention after five, 10 minutes anyway. And then if they, they engage back and forth and you're actually answering questions and not ducking them, that's way better. And I wasn't afraid if somebody would ask me about some particular agriculture bill that I wasn't familiar with, I'd be like, hey, I don't know the answer to that question yet,

but I can find it for you. Like this is broad strokes, this is what I believe, but I'm not familiar with that particular bill. Would you mind telling me about it? Yeah. And it's- Something they taught us a long time ago, or at least they taught me a long time ago, but I'm not familiar with that particular bill. Would you mind telling me about it? Yeah. And it's something they taught us a long time ago, or at least they taught me a long time ago,

was one of the most powerful things you can do as a leader is say, admit you don't know. Because too many people, you get into the bullshit cycle. It's like people will just make up answers if they think it's what you want to hear. Yeah. So it's been good. I think it helps people trust you too.

Agreed. Yeah. Where you're just like, I'm not afraid to admit that I don't know the answer to that. Especially about like niche or complex topics. And that's what, so Dave talked about like this big announcement that we did as the army, there's a lot of complex topics in there in terms of things that we're going to stop and things that we want to do and like the technology ecosystem and

how we want to engage and like how we actually take care of soldiers. Some of it, like we have a lot of good data and analysis. There's a reason why we're doing it. We know this. Some of it, there's unintended consequences that are going to pop up. And frankly, the secretary and the chief, so secretary Driscoll and general George have said, we're going to fight through this. Sometimes we're something's going to pop up, we'll figure it out. And that's why, again, I've been on the Hill for the last couple weeks. I'll be on the Hill again tomorrow. Some of it's just explaining to our board of directors, Congress, hey, here's what's

happening and why. And oh, if these things happen, we'll figure that out. You could overstaff, you could wait for it until you have every detail, all the answers, whatever. Secretary of Justice General George said, Nope, let's go public. Let's go to the Hill. We're making these changes and, uh, and there's still plenty of things that we need to figure out.

So we're figuring them out. That'd be the hardest part with that is in the military side, some of that stuff is outdated and people hate change. That's the one thing I do remember is changes, terrifying in the military. And it's like, no, we need these very ancient equipment. We'll just keep it going and spend way too much on it. But you guys are actually the first ones who are like, Hey, let's. What if we didn't?

And soldiers don't hate change. No, so like, why are we still doing this dumb shit? Uh, so they're ready for the change and, and, uh, that's what's great about it. You know, when we go, we were just at JROTC, was it last week? It was last week. Last week. And man, the soldiers out there, because we gave them all the new shit and they're like, this is freaking awesome.

They're figuring out, they're teaching us on how they're going to use it and what's good, what's not. So they're ready for change. It's, you know, we talked about a little bit last time The defense industrial complex the big primes the congressional districts those folks don't want to change, you know, there's interests that they're trying to protect and It's money. There's lots and lots of money involved. Yeah Yeah, and and like one of the good one of the coolest things I got to see is, um, I went down to

JRTC, um, down in Southern Louisiana early, just so I could be embedded with first brigade 101st for a little bit of time. Um, I showed you the infantry squad vehicle. So that, that new thing, that's a, it's a general motors defense. It's a Chevy Colorado that's been militarized with a Hendrick chassis. It looks like the warthog from halo. It is awesome. Wait, what? So it really did. Yeah. So, right. So that's bad ass.

It's a troop carrier. You see a code? Yeah. You showed it to me a minute ago. There's a, there's a five seat variant and a nine seat variant. Dude, that would do good against IEDs. Well, do you have any bad habits? Yeah, I've had bad habits. What are we doing it now? Yeah.

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They just go so fast. But like, it's supposed to replace the Humvee. And my dad got fielded Humvees in 1988. Like as one of the first units. But we're still building and buying them now. And we just want to replace it with cooler vehicles that are super light, super cheap. So we pay about $ for those, 150K. These probably rip compared to, if, no, okay, so,

for anyone out there, Brandon, have you rode in like an actual like up armor and Humvee? Yeah. Err. Just like a turtle. Oh dude, like zero to 60 in I think eight hours. Yeah. Four guys maybe. Yeah. Like this. It feels like you're entering the atmosphere

Once you hit highway speed it is The worst thing in the world the strikers are faster How much does the the army pay for a Humvee like a shitty Humvee like that? I think it's 300k Yeah, it's I remember without the up armor. Yeah, the coolest thing is I got the drive with the convoy going from Yeah, it's I remember without the up armor. Yeah, the coolest thing is I got to drive with the convoy going from Alexandria Airport to the box on the interstate and you just see a line of those and it's just it's just paratroopers like some Of them are under nods. Some of them aren't like it's just guys driving a truck because it's a Colorado that's been militarized yeah, and we can pump them out and they come off the same production line as the normal truck and

They're easy to get they can be repaired anywhere in the world And we don't have to keep the 40 year old thing just because we kept buying it better vehicle for half the price Yeah, yeah, and and we're not we're not fighting from the infantry squad vehicle. We're just mobile. We're moving around the battlefield The whole the new battlefield calls it calls for a mass mobility, right? So if you you can see everywhere on the battlefield, if you can see, you can hit it. And so the survivable thing about the battlefield is by staying low, low signature and moving very fast. And that's why we have these, that's where we're fielding these vehicles. So you can, you know, we're going to put this across the whole division.

You'll be able to move a division. You guys are just watching. Yeah, we're watching the robotic ISV. Oh, yeah, so so we took that's a cool story So we went to California we went to the valley and we said hey It's what if we took one of these companies and we gave you an ISV could you turn into a robot in ten days? And that's not a that's ten days and they said we'll see what we can do and once we got it We were like we don't know what to do with this thing So we went hey, let's just let's give it to a unit. First, we're getting 100 versus going to the box.

Give it to them. They'll figure it out. First thing they said, I love them. Cause it was the exact same idea that I had there. Like, we'll put C4 on it. And when you use it as a breaching asset, and I was like, yeah. Cool. It's a remote control bomb.

Me thinks whoever was in the one Oh first at the time played a lot of Battlefield back in the day. Me thinks you're right. Well, the problem was I was like, it's the exact same thing I thought of. Oh my God, don't blow up my vehicle. And they came up with some cool things. They did resupplies. They had it go through Wadis.

It was just a cool experiment to watch a robotic vehicle and us enable that. Yeah, they fit on the back of a Chinook. You can sling load them. So that's cool. Right in there. That's gangster shit. It's almost like we thought that through. Between client meetings, managing your business,

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When the Hurricanes hit North Carolina last year a lot of the roads washed out and like North Carolina North Carolina still home for me So it was it was personal humvees couldn't get there and the National Guard has humvees and the guards doing amazing work all over the world. Um, but the ISVs could. So we deployed the 82nd and the 101st for hurricane relief and, and their ISVs were the things that could get them there. Put a bunch of paratroopers together, give them ISVs and give them Starlink. And it's pretty amazing.

They can solve anything. Yeah, that's what we did in North Carolina. Like find people, it was awesome. We had like, the strikers were way faster than the Humvees. That's the one thing I drew. And you're looking at how much does a strike weigh? 120,000 pounds? Oh, it's more than that. With all the up armor and all the reactive armor and everything. Like 200,000 pounds. Like fat bitches.

But they ran. Like you could run. But they had great personalities. Oh yeah. Not the ones in Austin. Yeah. Get inside the torta. Yeah.

Oh. Back door opens up. I love those fucking things. We gotta have fun with them. It's like, yes, yes. The no utility waddling vehicle. Yeah. I'm still talking about the Striker, right?

Yeah. The Striker. The Striker had a big following of contractors, FSRs, what, field service reps. And so we had, it was, you know, it's contract madness. We had all these contracts built. Yes, we'll buy a bunch of strikers, but who's it? GD or who makes them? Yes. Yeah. General Dynamics, uh, fields a bunch of contractors

with them. And so we can't fix our own freaking vehicles. So, so let, and let me give you an example. So in general, George tells a story very eloquently. Um, if you wanted to weld something to your striker, let's say you wanted just like a new ruck mount or like put your AT-4s on the side of it. Non-commissioned officers can think of anything. Like let them fuck with the striker a little bit. You can't. Like you legally can't because of the contract that we had. So if one of your maintenance guys who is a certified welder and a mechanic cannot weld to the side of

that because of a contract that we signed, probably right at the start of GWOT. So is that why I remember when they added the V-mount or the V-holes? Yeah the V-holes. So one of the issues when these first hit is IEDs they were soft underarm or so you had the birdcage on the side it would stop RPGs that's about and some IED blast but underneath was just a problem. Well, because if you know anything about directional explosives You basically just created a bowl to absorb the IED instead of deflected. So you made it worse essentially and they had Into a shape charge. Yeah

So we had to actually bring them on base and then they were down for I think it was like a week Well, all the units or our battalion had the V-holes put in. So it's like, hey, look, they take blasts better now from underneath. You don't have to worry about that. But that was months into the deployment. And it was- I didn't realize that we couldn't touch them physically.

That's why we had to drop them off. Which is also why when you put the bird cages on there or like the bag of bolts, you'll hear that term now for like the drone problem Most of the solutions that our soldiers come up with Given like the boundary condition you can't weld on this is you're super simple Like here's literally a sandbag full of bolts So that if something explodes the kinetic energy goes out through the bolts because we can't weld it We can't put new stuff on there

That's why we would wrap it in the netting. So no shit. So we just put yeah, and then we put the Bulletproof glass on the side exactly I always wonder why we did that shit Sounds like we're just soldiers that makes sense I was like, wow, we're just soldiers. That makes sense. You shot the problems, given the condition. We would just put bulletproof glass where the VC would stand up and do patrols, because you're just like at that.

And then you would just do a camo net wrap around the top. It's like Pope Mobile light. Just put the bulletproof glass in there. It wasn't meant to stop anything. It was just so if you're getting a sniper, hopefully they can't see your silhouette through the sniper net and you're just you're still like standing up in the hell hole you're never down you have four people up at any given time when you're riding around so you're just like oh we'll do this and then we'll look around and that's it but you do a

sniper net around it and just hope for the best all this so Raytheon's arrow stays green Sniper net around it and just hope for the best all this so Raytheon's arrow stays green Which brings to our sponsor There's a cut I mean, you know, it wasn't it was like a minute in before we got into the the interest in congressional districts and stuff. I mean, like something we need to talk about. It's true facts. True facts. So that's the stuff I'm like, yeah, I tip my hat to all y'all for doing that shit still. I don't know how you guys do that. I'm not addicted. It's fine well, so we Can quit any time along we've been trying general George in the you know year and a half almost two years

I've been the chief we've been trying to cancel stuff trying to cancel stuff and You know secretary Driscoll new in Administration come on board and he's like we're canceling it just do it And you know, you've got people we want to we want him to make informed decisions We're like, okay, but you know so-and-so is gonna be super mad This congressional district is gonna be affected You know, we're gonna have to explain this to Congress gonna have to do this gonna have to do that And then there's a trade-offs and he's like, nope screw it. We're doing what's right for the soldier first time and we're not gonna fucking change

I'm not gonna back down. I'm like Okay, I'm in I'm in so because I mean in your career How long have you ever seen that before in what third 20 25 30 years? No, I mean No, I was a real soldier before this so So I haven't been in Pentagon that long. But I'll just use the example of canceling the FARA, what does that stand for? Oh man, Future Attack Reconnaissance Aircraft. So we canceled this billion dollar program.

My brain is full of memes and acronyms. About what, eight months ago or something. Oh yeah. Yeah and Instead of taking all that money, you know billions of dollars into the future and and That's a hard thing to cancel. So credit credit to our last set of bosses but instead of taking all that money and invest in it and stuff that we know soldiers need drones and you know Network drones robots, AI robots. We put it back into our old ass helicopters because the farah was going to be made in a certain congressional district. So we'll yes. So we traded we cancel we cancel farah because that's what's

best for the future of the army. So we're all celebrating, but we're taking all the money and we're putting it into old ass helicopters. And so that was a trade off, right? That we do. And this secretary and this chief is the trade off is going to the soldier. So that was great. Seven billion dollars that we wanted to create to buy all the Gwiz future stuff to make sure that soldiers had the best stuff and six point I think like six or six point eight of it. We had to go back and reinvest To make sure everybody was whole and when you say Gwiz It very technical term. So things like we know that FTB drones are all over Ukraine. We've seen them in Gaza and in Israel.

Being able to just buy those and like stand up production lines because most of the stuff they're using overseas are Chinese parts and we can't buy that. We don't want to subsidize the CCP. So how do we like buy in America or build in America? Like standing up investing in the American industrial base to do that. Buying things like ground robots. So if we like I don't want a soldier to ever have to go through a breach first. That's silly. Like we all know what the fatal funnel is. We all, hey, let's trade blood for steel and make sure it's their blood. And like, let's spend the money and buy the robots to do that. Let's make sure that all the combo kit, because we've all had like a 117 golf fail on us or a 152, like how about we just buy the right things and we outfit the rest of the army.

Get smaller plates so that you're more maneuverable. So that, cause like we all had plate carriers cause the IBA with like the Spaulders and the crotch pad and the like looks super cool, but like. I never put that on. I was like, man, I look so dope right now. I'm like, I'm gonna get Eli with the mirror pick. I'm fucking so hot right now. I'm like I'm gonna get Eli with the mirror pick Fucking so hot right now. There's some so sweaty, but the cockpad I would always wear well Yeah, did you protect the crown jewels that was doubt it?

We never want to bring my shoulders you don't want the biceps not important this If this is gone I can still you I didn't even wear plates I just If this is gone, I can still. I didn't even wear plates. I just wore that. Just to look old. If I die, I die. But like the level four armor, it's very heavy. But like, how do we get the smaller ones?

Like, how do we invest in that in the materials and the compounds? And how do we buy that at the army scale instead of just spending money on stuff we don't need? I'll give you another one. So we always talk about FARC because that was a multi-billion dollar thing. But there was this other system called the shadow developed in the heat of the shadow. Yeah, that sounds super familiar. The UAV.

It's like this long. The big ass motherfucker. Yeah, we do. We tried to chuck one. You throw them right? No. So that's the Puma and the Raven. So you're thinking Raven.

So Raven was like this. Puma was like the shadow was like white as a table and it was it had a rail and you had to like yeet it off to get it to go. So your thing is, so Raven was like this, Puma was like this, Shadow was like, why does the table? And it had a rail and you had to like yeet it off to get it to go and or it had to have a runway. Yeah, we like dude, we chucked one and then it ate shit. And the problem is they could hear it too. So you would see like FMV. Wait, the they could hear it too. So you would see like FMV.

Wait, the enemy could hear it? And they'd be like, you'd see like two dudes walking and all of a sudden they'd be like, they stopped running. So last year we were going to spend $77 million to keep those things alive to pay for 53 people. Oh God. And we were like, Hey, like this seems like low hanging fruit. What if we just didn't waste that taxpayer dollars? What if we just didn't?

What if we bought quadcop waste that taxpayer dollars? What if we just didn't what if we bought? quadcopters for a couple units Everybody lost their minds 500 like how much is a fucking drone? Okay, so the American major. Yeah So like one of ours very hardened like GPS did not like you can do these things will fly anywhere They're almost quiet So I like you could fly it over there and you couldn't hear it here Like it's actually super quiet the ones that we buy. They're 30 to 50,000

Yeah, but they're they're EW hard so you can't you can't jam them They call them like all the lessons we learned from from Russia. Yeah But even even is that that's still that place ten times less than the other stuff that we're buying and it's gonna come down with higher production so yeah, of course That's fucking wild cody. Do you want better sex? I love better sex Do you want to start having better sex immediately can our new sponsor Adam and Eve help us with that? That's right. Jump your girlfriend's you want better sex? Start over. Who needs a real person? The best way to get started is head on over to adamandeve.com right now. Oh this website's so great! Adam and Eve is offering 50% off just

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Still that nice ten times less than the other stuff that we're buying and it's gonna come down with our production. So yeah, of course That's fucking wild And again, how much were the originals? So we were gonna buy we were just gonna spend hundreds of millions we're gonna spend 77 million dollars for 53 maintainers yeah like around the world and speaking of maintainers what was the operational readiness rate Alex the highest it had ever been was 53% so only 53% of those drones were capable of flying at any one time because the maintenance sucked on them. Anyway, the flying lovebug. That's as quiet as they are? Yep. And you can see, like, you can see where he launched it from. These are literally like DJI drones.

Hey, hey, they're not DJI. They're whatever they are. Well, not only do we want to not subsidize the CCP, but there are very real scenarios where potentially having Chinese supply chains are a bad fucking idea. Yeah. Go figure. Maybe like not our enemy could be controlling the supply chain for all the stuff that we would use against not our enemy.

Yeah. Especially if they, yeah, nevermind. Yeah. We forgot terrifying with those things. That's the one thing i will say like watch it we watch front like the frontline combat footage that is the most terrifying thing that has been i don't think anyone's seen it going that way yeah 70 70 percent of casualties right now in ukraine russia are from drones yeah it's scary you'll see the guys just sit there and

they'll see the drone they'll'll just accept it. Mm-hmm Yeah, and they're shooting down half of the drones are shooting down are their own drones because there's you know We don't have mechanisms right now to do airspace management and figure out Like if you're if you're an impjeman and there's a drone flying over are you risking it pretty sure I'm gonna shoot it Yeah, unless you know specifically as you're drunk and so I can't even think of that. There's not like blue force trackers being like hey, this is when you're in your battle space You know exactly where it is But instead of developing like these big standalone systems where you need a truck and like a big server and satellite To figure all that out

We're building apps To be able to do that. You said apps? Apps, yeah. Everything is app. Everything, this kind of sounds, you know, there's an iPhone. You don't have 11 iPhones, do you? To do 11 different things?

So, in the Army, we have 11 iPhones, but they're not just iPhones, they're trucks by themselves with servers and groups of soldiers that have to run things. Our army, what we're invested in now is everything is application based. Application based and sits on one network so that soldiers aren't lugging around a whole bunch of shit and we don't have extra soldiers doing all this extra stuff. Sorry, we had a separate conversation. No, we were just showing cool stuff.

Showing me the battle space with the Tracks that try to try to manage all of the drones and the airspace you're on patrol and you're like, well, is that mine? I don't know. It's one of those I hope Three gun shotgun. Yeah. Oh, that's been one of my favorite things is the return of the combat shotgun. Number one, number one drone killer. Yeah, because there was a while where there was a legitimate conversation where it's like aside from breaching, does the shotgun still have a role? I remember that conversation. And then here comes DJI or well. Well, these ones are.

Yeah, we're shooting a shotgun as probably DJ. Are they still using the OG? for Whatever the army's new shotgun or is it going towards like that? Three-gun style because I figured it'd be like a three-gun style shotgun So it's just speed ready high to capacity 12 rounds And and long barrel because yeah, I think you can't have a short barrel and maintaining a level of accuracy and they're using birdshot right And no light of shit really Bert shot long barrel because yeah, like you can't have a short barrel and maintaining a level of accuracy and they're using birdshot right. And the lightest shit really?

Birdshot. Interesting. I heard, I heard a conversation and I wasn't sure if it was true or not. They said they were using buckshot cause a birdshot wasn't doing enough damage to the drones, but I'm not sure. So it depends on how close you are. And this just gets into like weird mechanics. Um, if you think about like how cheap some of the drones

are, if you can just knock off one of the rotors, you, you, it'll fly off and just crash out. If it's super close and you can actually hit it with buckshot while they're maneuvering, you just kill it there, hit it right main body. But the birdshot gives you a higher probability of hitting one of the rotors. Interesting. Oh shit. No tech. I love it. Right. Well, I mean, one of our- It's a new battlefield. Yeah, one of our guys, and he's super smart,

E5 type, just like, hey, how I would count our drones is, if you look at a quadcopter, you got four very powerful electromagnets on there, and it's the rotor. Like, just throw ferrous sand at it. Like, just like, T-shirt tube, sand, and it'll suck it up into the motor and just chew up the motor.

That's very that's smart right. Soldiers come up with good shit all the time. A bad shit. T-shirt tube drone. T-shirt tube. What is actually for you what is some of the dumb privacy you had to deal with some dumbass soldiers dog Probably not right for for public Yeah, public affairs talking shit about his You gotta love them though, right? Very good. Yeah shit about his you gotta love them though right all of them so much it's all very good yeah there's a well you guys had burned alien when we were independent

yeah yeah major he was he was my first arm when I was coming commander oh no shit man we had some good times we had some good times yeah he was a great guy dude all those guys were fantastic. Yeah, it was still the who's the individual with that was like stacked. He's like scuba combat or halo. Mullin X probably. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was the one Captain America. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I was like, that was my first reaction seeing the stack. I was like,

Jesus Christ, there's a good word over me and Cody. I've just like Instantly he's what I like he's also just he's very well spoken So he was one of the guys that we went to the hill as we rolled out this army transformation thing so what one thing I appreciate about the team that we have between Mike Weimer, the Sergeant Major of the Army, the Chief, the Secretary is like, the team is just so high performing. Like you have a bunch of smart people who have done a lot of really cool stuff. And he's one of them. Those guys are like the entire chain of command seems extremely stacked for our very overqualified, which is fantastic.

I was not expecting that. Like period, period. It was an awesome change. It was like, okay, these dudes. And even a Roe Machais speaks so highly of General Jorge. That's what he calls him. He's like, what's Jorge doing? What's Randy Jorge doing? Would love to know the context behind that.

I think David and I can do that once. I would love to know the context. I think David, I can do that once. Well, there was, he just had a, uh, a grand kid. And, uh, so there was about 24 hours where I was calling him Gigi. Hey Gigi. And he was like, no. Okay. That one's done. Yeah.

But Romeshare speaks so highly of him as a leader. He's like, that dude is one of the first dudes or one of the only dudes that had his back, even when they got into that, I think when he got into that battle space, he was one of the few leadership that was like, Hey, this is a stupid fucking base. Yep. Yeah. Keaton. You know what Keaton it's in the bowl.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. General George was like, this what why yeah why and then so like now it was Strategic until it wasn't strategic. That's right. And that you know at the time a bunch of he was Colonel George Yep, and there was a bunch of generals that were like, what are you talking about? Colonel? You can't you can't move those those operating bases or outposts and He was like just did. LOL. Yeah literally the deal with it sunglasses. So but that's what he's doing now you know you can't you can't cut that

program just did. That's where you can't cut that program. Just did. That's where you're wrong, but go ahead. Bludge this. It was funny, because you talk about your team and like the team that you've got, like the guys that are just, you know, very well-spoken, very articulate, and you know, good people to have with you

shoulder to shoulder in the Capitol. We saw a couple pictures of you guys in the Capitol having to go before Congress, and you guys looked like you were having a fucking ball So The I have had to do and the other person that's not here is Colonel Molly Salisbury So she's been about battle buddy on the Hill. And all of us have known each other for a long time from some other units.

Intel officer, special operations background. We grew up together doing all that stuff. But we had to go do the House Armed Services Committee. I'll be with the Senate Armed Services Committee tomorrow. The House oversight for the hack and the sack. So Armed Services Committees and it was great. It was great. So the members have actually all been like super supportive. The members of Congress, the elected members of Congress have all said,

okay, like I understand why you're doing it. You clearly have a lot of passion here. You've clearly made some decisions. It's clearly the right thing of passion here. You've clearly made some decisions It's clearly the right thing for the army like right thing for the army right thing for the country Okay What we've been doing is going and briefing the staff So the professional staff members who help write laws, right? So it's like anything They're the ones that are putting pen to paper and then taking it to their bosses and then the military

Legislative assistants who are sort of like supposed to be their, their connective tissue to the military, they're the ones that, that think that they're going to grill us and like, Hey, what are you doing? Why? And have you thought about this? And those engagements, some of them have been great because we've been priming the pump on some of these things for a while. Some of them have been straight up knife fights on like, you can't do that.

And we're going, Hey, we're doing the right thing for soldiers. Like you cannot tell us to keep buying these things just because we're going to tell you, no, it's not the right thing. We're going to try a whole bunch of other things. It's been Franklin. Like I know 10,000 ways that are wrong. I haven't found the right thing yet, but all of these things are wrong. You have to give us the freedom to do the right thing for soldiers. So that's really been, it's been a weird dichotomy of, hey, the members are all like, go forth and do the right thing. The White House has said, go forth and do the right thing. The SecDef has said, you will do the right thing. And our leadership has said, here's what the

right thing looks like. And just, and then working through the people's representatives has been, has been a fun challenge. I'm really glad you brought that up because I think most Americans would be shocked to know how much of the country is run by unelected legislative aides. It's terrifying. What do you mean by that? It means, so you have a member of Congress, okay, he goes forward, he does the votes, whatnot, but the actual bills being written, different committee stuff, all that's done

by like eight to ten people in his office That are there to read through the bills to write the bills whatever they have more power than you would ever fucking think That's why it was so important I was warned like a if I if I got the job like you need to pick these people fucking carefully because they run Your office. Mm-hmm. And that's not something I think most people know and they know the system They know how to do it, you know, this is very something I think most people know. And they know the system. They know how to do it.

You know, this is very complicated bureaucracy and, um, and you need people who know how to get things done within the bureaucracy to do it. And so, you know, you can't, I was reminded by journal and general George, actually, you just can't burn it all down. You have to make the bureaucracy work. You have to force it to work. I know it was my plan too. But yeah. Um, so I face value, at face value people see what we're doing and they're like,

of course, yeah, modern battlefield, Ukraine, Israel, we're seeing it all over the world. Of course, modernize the army, transform the army, stop doing old dumb shit. So it's just a challenge. It's been interesting to educate people. The army, the oldest service, 250 years this year. Birthday coming up. We have the smallest budget of any military department. So there's three military departments, Air Force, Navy, Army. We have the smallest budget. So we represent 21% of the defense budget. That's it. What would you attribute that to?

Um, I think that there's more expensive projects like aircraft carriers. So yeah, so, um, okay. So just to get technical on how we do things like the Navy and the Air Force buy platforms and then they man platforms, they buy boats and they put people on boats. Ships, the army. No and they put people on boats. Ships. The army, no. Don't touch those.

Yeah, don't touch our boats. I'll stand up for the Navy. Don't touch our boats. You flip it. The army builds formations and then we equip formations. We buy stuff for our par troopers. And therefore the way that we argue for a budget is just we have the smallest one We don't have huge capital assets like a aircraft carrier like a zoom wall like a b21 like the f-47 So the way that we do it is it's just differently the second part of that is it's really hard to describe The scale of the army without sounding like there's too much army. So the Navy says, hey, we have 300 some odd hulls, like they count it in terms of ships. The Air Force says we have X number of tails. The Army says we have a million people. That sounds like a lot. Well,

that's the entire guard. That's the reserve. That's the active component. That's literally everyone. Well, so during GWAT, we started saying, well, we have 50 some brigades. That still sounds like a lot, especially when it's, you know, 6,000 pissed off soldiers who just want to go do, you know, wreck things and do the things for the country. Hey, Brandon, do you have Cash App? Brandon, I asked you a f****** question.

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So the way that we fight for the budget is a little different. Um, and the way that we describe it as a little different. And then we focus so much on stuff that we sometimes just get wed to this stuff. So we get wed to humbys. We get wed to the M4, which I love, like M4 is great. Um, and it's just, it's a different battle when we go to the hill and say hey we want to really change. Yeah but to be clear this change and we're not unsubscribed for this reason we're not asking for any more money. Yeah we've got a budget and General George

and Secretary have been like we don't want more money guys we'll keep the money we have we just want to be able to spend it more efficiently and in an efficient and responsible way. Which, and what they mean by that is... So you get restricted on how you can spend that? Yeah. So, oh, let me tell you, we get restricted. Yeah. Budget lines? Yeah.

Back in... Wait, they gave you the money and they're like, mmm? No, they give you the money and then across I think 1900 budget lines it used to be six we get told exactly how to spend every dollar so if you're a budget nerd the army's budget this year was about 185 billion dollars which sounds like a lot because it is it is a lot of money yeah 55% of that immediately locked it's mill pay sift pay so we want to make sure we pay our soldiers make sure you pay your civilians another 25% of that is immutable it's congressional direction It's mill pay, sieve pay. So we want to make sure we pay our soldiers, make sure we pay your civilians.

Another 25% of that is immutable. It's congressional direction. You will spend this money in this direction. The rest of it is what is our spending money. It's our discretionary funds. So that goes into like the programs like Shadow, programs like Humvee, programs like Nixon Squad Weapon. But that was planned five years ago. But it was planned five years ago because we had to guess at what we wanted to spend in this year. And then, so the budget line items, it's a technical term. So think about if you're at your home. I'm sure you planned all this five years ago. Exactly.

We were so far ahead. We were like three years ago. It's like, we've got the Pentagon in 2024. There you go. And if you need a new camera, obviously, you'll just say, I'll buy one in five years. Yeah. But you'll plan to buy the thing that exists right now

in five years. That camera. Yeah. That one. I'll budget that. Every good company is revered on its ability to maneuver five years at a time. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. Flat and fast. But it's wild. It is. And again, 20% of the budget is just going to be like, Ma, fucking guess, dude. But it's surprising how much the American people don't know. Like they think that we waste a lot of money and we do. But it's because we don't have a lot of these guys for that part.

I don't do it. But the thing about, you hear the stories, like the Air Force just got caught up in this weird thing about the soap dispensers on the C-17s. And they were just like, we were paying 1700% markup on the soap dispensers. Well, that's because- Wait, what? So this is a real thing.

Are they good? Um, no, they're the same ones that you find in like the fucking Bucky's bathroom. It's the same soap dispenser, but because of the way that we are told to spend our money, someone had to plan that and all of the engineering overhead to design, oh, I hope I can screw these two things into the C-17 that gets added to the cost. So by the time that we have to buy it, this might be three bucks. If I go to the gas station, it's going to be $300 because of all the overhead that we add. When we talk about, Hey, I want to spend my money better.

It's I literally go, Hey, I can buy that on the consumer market. It's probably okay to use it a couple of times. I know that I'm taking risk. I just want to spend the same dollars that I can out of uniform that our soldiers can in uniform. And when you hear about the $700 hammer or the $500 toilet seat cover, like all of these like terrible military procurement stories from the 50, 60, 70, there's a reason it's not a good reason, but it exists.

And that's what we're trying to burn through and break down. That's where you get that bag of bolts. It's like one good reason, but it exists. And that's what we're trying to burn through and break down. That's where you get that bag of bolts. It's like one of those running. Soldiers find a way. It's like Jurassic Park. Soldiers find a way. Because of all the dumb conditions that have been put on us, instead of just going,

hmm, that seems like common sense. Let's just fucking do that. But even the justification where you're like, well, consumer market is, we're taking a risk. It's probably, you know, it'll probably be OK. It's like, well, in some scenarios, it's probably better. And even if it's not better, maybe it's just on par. So 2000 percent more efficient.

Yeah. And it's available right now. Not five years from now. Yeah. Yeah. There's kind of three categories, right? We just we were emailing about this this morning. There's you can buy it right now and it's it's close enough good enough for for military use you can buy it and then modify it just a bit so that we can use it in a military way that's like the isv like chevy colorado adapted for military use yep or there's long lead time like uh like our next generation tank

i haven't seen any, I don't know, I haven't been to all the places in Austin, or in San Antonio, not Austin. Not Austin. Not Austin. Would recommend avoiding. But anyway, I haven't seen any tanks for sale, so we have to develop that out.

That's gonna take some time, you know, to develop the next generation tank But drones there's a lot of them around and we can use some right away or just modify them a bit to use them so anyway, it's him with like the laser weapons and Microwave weapons, which we definitely won't use on people. That's a Geneva Convention thing Microwave weapons? Yeah. Yeah.

So there's it's a brain. Yeah, I don't know about this shit. Like you haven't like opened your microwave and just turn it on. No, I did the quick classification check. You said there were microwave weapons and Alex went. Yeah. Those would big gangster. I mean, they originally rolled them out

for, I think, crowd control, right? No, so the, we didn't. That was definitely like a Homeland Security thing. Like we're actually- The history of microwaving people. Yeah, it's, no. No. Have you ever seen that?

No. Here we go. It's like eyeballs explode. No, too high. Yeah. Popcorn. That one's a little dumb. No, these are for like counter drone. So, too high. Popcorn. That one's a little dumb. No, these are for counter drone.

So think about like take two of your safes, put one next to each other, and stand it up so that you can just blast it and fry the electronics if they're coming in. And the scary thing for me, and I won't give away any TTPs, because that's terrifying, is you're in a base in Iraq, or Iraq, Syria, or anywhere else, and there's a bunch coming you just flip it on and all the electronics fry and they just Fall out of the sky like that's that's Nirvana

HBM high-powered microwave just takes a lot of power. You know some privates gonna be cooking ramen noodles on that Hold his hand. AHHHHH! A little higher! I don't think I can! A little higher! It's like my dad used to tell me stories, he's like, Hey Private, crack your mask. He'd be like, Hey Private, hold up the ramen. If it starts boiling, it's fine. That's right, I wouldn't trust anyone.

You walk in front of people like- Private's the most dangerous thing in the world. He's like, Oh, why does it hurt? Oh, I guess it doesn't hurt anymore. most dangerous thing in the world. It's like, Oh, why does it hurt? Oh, I guess it doesn't hurt. When did you go to basic then? Um, wow. That's how old you were aging me.

Yeah. Uh, 1997. I mean, that ain't bad. I was 12. Thank you. Yeah. Two. Yeah.

Oh my God. Congressman. Maybe. Yeah. I were you? Oh my God. Congressman. Maybe. Yeah. I think it was like one and a half. You're already an Admiral? Kind of. This is freaking Colonel. Brings a little diaper.

Like a temple of prestige. I know that. Wait. It's like, it's kind of like having your grandma on the podcast. How's that? Having me on the podcast. You were two when I was, anyway. You're old.

It's a weird one. You're a Nazi. You're a Nazi. You're a Nazi. You're a Nazi. You're a Nazi. You're a Nazi. You're a Nazi. It's like it's kind of like having your grandma on the podcast. How's that having me on the podcast? You were too when I was wondering where you were going with that. I'm like, ah. We were like, dude, you set this joke up. How old are you, Cody? I'm 37. That's pretty good.

When you were in the military, did you do infantry first or what was your first? Oh, dude, you had. I was an infantryman growing up, yeah. How was basic? Well, I was an infantry officer. So, coming out of college. Yeah, sweet, great time. Yeah, actually, I just hung out with my buddy. So I went to like college camp with him, advanced camp,

then band camp, band camp, band camp. Yes. Then then officer basic, then ranger school, and then first duty station. I just hung out with them last weekend. Junk a bunch of beers together. But yeah, we had some good times, man. Do Ranger School is, have you guys heard any Ranger School stories from any of the guests yet? Nah, from the guests, no. Did you do one recycle or some recycle?

Oh, I did some, yes. I dabbled in a couple different phases of Ranger School. Oh, you did a repeat cycle? Oh, I did some. Yes, I dabbled in a couple different phases of Ranger School. Yeah. Oh, you did a repeat cycle? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, this is what I like to say.

So, I eventually went straight through. This is the PR skills coming up right now. I didn't learn this in Ranger School, but um. I got extra schooling. I'm more trained. When I finally restarted, then I went straight through. So what's does that count? Yeah.

Yeah. So winter school you had to it. So you just did the one in Marie, like they probably have no do you guys have a baseline of your school? I read it from Matt's book. His stories from that, but that's about it. Yeah, I graduated in December, so I was a winter Ranger. Sleepy, you get no sleep. Tell people, like explain, because I think you got a lot of people, you're eating what,

two MREs. Do you get the two MREs or so one? So we got, we got two because, um, do you, uh, this is, this goes back a ways in 1995 or something like that. There were a couple of guys that died in Florida phase. Oh, no, sure. I didn't know about that. Yeah, they got hypothermia. Basically, you know, you combine, uh, being totally physically, uh, beat down with lower temperatures and water.

And then, yeah, we lost a couple of guys. And so they- Swamp face. Yeah, swamp face. Yeah, because you're wet all the time. So they changed it anyway. We got two MREs, I think, in Florida in the mountains. But the choice always was, do you sleep or eat? And I remember waking up after 40 minutes

with my open MRE in my lap and saying, damn, I really would have liked to eat. Just to, but instead of how to sleep. So. Cause you guys are averaging on like, uh, two hours. Yeah. It depended, uh, when we were out in the field. Yeah.

Cause it was, it's a cycle of, you know, field problems, kind of learning stuff in the classroom. And it is actually a school. It's not just a complete suck fest. Um, and so, yeah, we were probably two hours of sleep sometimes, well, oftentimes, uh, quite a bit less and This is for 60 days. Yes, 62 days or something you lose a bunch of weight you you know, you're under not only physical stress but mental stress and

It's a leadership school. So you consistently put into leadership roles where you're like You know all these people that are sucking as bad as you where you're like, you know, all these people that are sucking as bad as you, now you're in charge of them, and you have to go really far that way. And so you gotta figure out a way to, you know, use the process and lead these people to success. And yeah, it was a good challenge. Just like we do in the Pentagon.

No, but you try I love how positive you try. I've never heard someone say well, you know For scale I think it was this so I don't want to put words in his mouth But if I recall correctly, I think it was swamp phase Matt said that he had a fucking flesh-eating Bacteria all over his back or something. They had to hide because he didn't want to be recycled Well, yeah, you're up against that You know you got a little limp or you got a couple of problems and you don't want the medics to know about it because they're like, that could get worse.

You're out. Rocco did, he got knocked off during a raft and dislocated his arm and just faked his arm being in place for the remainder week, I think yeah and he made it all the way through until afterwards and they went to salute and he's like wait soldier what I'd like to say that tab is worth it that like long-term damage to your shoulder but you know why like let's be honest like those are good times when you you know pushing yourself to about it positively? Like, let's be honest, like those are good times when you're pushing yourself to the physical limit and you're sucking, you're out there with your buddies.

Public affairs. Yeah, no, I actually, you know. Would not do that right now. Even for a YouTube video, you could send us for. Would you not? Fuck. How many days would we do that for? Like for content right now? In our positions in life, three days? I'd do it as long as you guys? Fuck. How many days would we do that for? Like for content right now?

In our positions in life? Three days? I'd do it as long as you guys did it. Nice. Yeah, cool. Hey. Hey. Which I know caps out at about 40, 48 hours.

Okay. Carrie's like, I'm done. It sounds like you guys are throwing down the gauntlet right now. We can, actually, just had a great idea. Work with Ranger School. We can get you guys in. Do like a Ranger School thing.

Unsubscribe, go see Ranger School. 62 days. 62 days, that's a pretty good thing. Ah, that'd be so good. Dude, Brandon gets an actual tab without being in the military. That's so dope. You survive all of it, redrop out, Brandon makes it through in just a hard ass. I think I found my new career. Here's an alternative.

Army birthday, we have a... Here's your turn in less than papers. Best squad competition. We should talk about EIC guys. Best squad competition. We should talk about the EIC guys. Best squad competition on Army birthday. So the morning of July 14th. June 14th. Oh, excuse me, June 14th.

We got you. We got you. We got you. We are. Yeah, everyone's going to show up on July 14th. We've got a best squad competition and we're putting together teams from, you know, maybe What's the competition? I can't tell you.

It's cross-fitting. How much do you mean like coloring in the line? No. It's cross-fitting. I mean, it's climbing ropes. It's, you know, some team. It's physical competition, obviously. Hey Brandon, you ever wake up in your bed feeling like you just fought in the war?

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Sleep better, stay cooler. We got marksmanship. Yeah. It's just not on the national lawn. Yeah, it's on the national lawn. So it's a, they get a little weird about them for some reason. Yeah. It's sensations of that overhead ball throw.

Not anymore. Not since January. No, just kidding. Just kidding. So anyway, you're invited to put together a team. How big does the team have to be? I think it's five. Anyway, I don't remember best of what.

I think that was an even number. Let's bring unsubscribe and then Matt Frazier I was just gonna say bring it up for him get all the points That's perfect. Yeah, Matt. You're coming. Well, they're good team events Yeah, we just pay five of the top world cross Masks like you can't kip anything. Because you're Matt won how many CrossFit World Championships? Five. Five of them?

Yeah. And he would get so, dude, that's not human. Well, you know, the X-Men were a team and I don't think Professor Xavier was doing any wall climbs. Well, you can't look at him and be like, hey, walk it off, Charles. And he's like, no, I'm not doing that. I'm doing that. I'm doing that.

I'm doing that. I'm doing that. I'm doing that. I'm doing that. I'm doing that and I don't think Professor Xavier was doing any wall climbs. Well you can't look at him and be like, hey, walk it off, Charles. Beast, help me up! There's three stairs! I don't think he was doing the 10k portion of that. Well, I mean, he's got the little cheer. It just takes a while. Could he move things with his mind or just read minds? abortion Could he move things with his mind or just read minds and make both do things he could yeah Why didn't he like move his little?

Kind of drag Feeder always It's like... He's just the... the... the tops of his feet are always bloody. What the hell? It's terrible. Charles! Handicap jokes. No, it's mutant jokes. Yeah, I see.

God damn it. Well, that is worse. I wonder Magneto hates us. I'm the guy that gets it. They're not handicapped, they're fucking mutants. Hahaha. Hahaha. That is an accident.

Hahaha. Aww. I'm going to my childhood. Hahaha. And the 90's kid comes out. Do you guys regret coming on yet? Not yet. Never. Let's keep going. Alright. And the 90s kidding you guys regard coming on you Let's keep going. All right, let's go deeper. Oh

Yeah, we have the fucking the army 250th coming up we're all doing we were still figuring out what we're doing there Yeah, we have a stage For me. So you're asking there's time Asking and telling because I got told one thing and I'm confirming. Yes Stage. Okay. Yeah, what would you like us to do on that stage? Just do it just do what are we doing an episode do an episode out there live episode we can do that Yeah, I know they wanted to plot to a stranger school I could do an hour range school. I'm fine with that. If we get tabbed after an hour, no one will judge us. You're, you're a battalion guy there, right? No, uh, two ID. Two ID. Yeah.

Yeah. Korea. No fucking Fort left. Do you want a drink? You can get up. Yeah, you're in uniform. Yes. You asked me to wear this, by the way. I know. I was like, you were like, do I wear this or this? I was like, the class Bs.

I thought they were the green stuff. I was very off on that one. This is our pinks and greens. Throwback. Pink and greens throwback Pink's and greens yeah old World War two they call them pinks and greens for whatever reason and Alex probably knows what reason Because he's the chief technology officer so I assume he knows those ones yeah, and this is our throw you something. Yeah Four five years ago, yeah, yeah shit. Yeah so off of all of this shit anymore my

No, we got with army we're gonna do a Whatever you guys had scheduled and then a live show I think they were saying YouTube the youtubers talking about Hegseth being on oh, yeah, great And I was like yeah all the guys were like yeah, that'd be a good episode. They'll do yeah decent Yeah, right. He said yeah, okay But then getting you guys to rotate up and then however else we treat the 250th

We're just gonna have a blast cuz it's gonna be blessed you guys are giving us a lot of free reign so we can ask them to what they want to see this is the way to do it free rain we trust you guys we'll see how long that last Brandon but no I mean so the army's turning 250 years old that's doesn't happen every day. And it's pretty cool. We're going to have a massive parade downtown DC. That's a whole that's a whole thing going on right now in the media. What are they saying? There's, unfortunately, because we live in such a politically polarized world right now, they're making it all about the president.

And we're really, really trying to make it all about the army, because it's the army's 250th birthday. And the president will certainly be there. He's going to celebrate with us. We're doing a big-ass parade, I'm telling telling you like a massive parade in downtown DC, which the president will reside over and it's going to be super cool. Yeah. Yeah. Excited about it. What are, uh, what else can we do?

Like for the two 50th, I know anyone doing that one. I want to go. Nice. There we go. So the owl, yeah. Owl. Oh, there we go. So, yeah. How? Yeah. No, the, the two 50th.

It's what we'll go. We'll show up. We'll have our events and then people are coming out as the general public allowed to just come hang out. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, the first part of that day, June 14th, we'll start out with the best squad competition. General public allowed there there watch out. That's like

9 a.m. To 11 I think something like that. That's Right there on the mall in DC June 14th, and then we'll go into like an army festival kind of thing We'll have a bunch of old stuff that we're cutting out there People just allowed to hit with hammers Wait what? No, it was obsolete equipment. I think that is a fantastic idea. We can shoot drones into them.

See how they survive. We'll see. Same time. Same time depends on what you bring out, because good luck denting a Sherman. Yeah, that's true. Actually, that's like cool. Like, we're not getting rid of Shermans. We're gonna actually gonna bring them back.

So many. What's old is new. And so we'll have Army Festival. That just like if you can imagine like a county fair or a fair down in the mall, you guys will be there. You know, stuff for the public to do. And then that'll transition into the parade that evening. Think about 4 p.m.

The parade goes down Constitution Avenue. The president at the end is going to enlist about 200 new recruits into the army. That's when Brandon signs up. Uh-huh. That's when Brandon's going to be there. Army, not Navy. Brandon, you're going to hate your paychecks. He's resigning his appointment as an adjutant. So, uh, that's when Brian is going to be there. Army, not Navy.

Brian, you're going to hate your paychecks. He's resigning his appointment as an admiral and resigns his fucking. We should trick Finn and adjoin them to army. Hey, I, I, I'm a prisoner of what I do. I was like, how old is that dude? Cause we could use, you know, we can use editors and like, I, I'm a prisoner of what I do. I was like, how old is that dude? Cause we could use, you know, we could use editors and like, so. Fen being an editor for the army would be a crazy plot. So good. We need good editors.

Um, and then, um, and then, uh, and then, uh, fireworks and, um, and that's like the army birthday day. And then there's a bunch of stuff surrounding that. I want to have fun with it though. That's where I want, like you can go get smoked by angry costs. Cause he's going to be there. You just have a line where he smokes like 15 individuals at the same time. Rotate through. Oh, he'd have a blast where he smokes like 15 individuals at the same time. Rotate through. Yeah.

Good to go. Oh, he'd have a blast with it. Yeah. Oh, rich has a good time interacting. He's still a drill sergeant. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's great. He popped up like people are cropping him into other videos. He popped up on like a random Instagram thing I had yesterday. It was just like him superimposed and BDU and I was like, Oh God, where is it? He's in everything now. How is it working with soldiers like with that kind of following and you have to, is there any dealing with it? Cause that's a dude that has like millions of followers now and he's a drill

sergeant. We know he gets kicked off of right. Or being a drill sergeant, he gets like instantly like, what do you mean? Like,? Like he's been on what one time he got showed up to duty the other his into NCO IC or whatever the commander of that unit knew who he was and they're like No, we're not gonna have like them like the recruits are gonna be like that's the guy from YouTube I like as he's like why is he fucking them down? Yeah I know recently it was it was kind of like a courtesy thing because it was through all the Buffalo school stuff Oh that would know that so that's different. So that was a courtesy. It's like hey take a day off But when he goes to his active duty status, I don't know if I've ever heard him talk about that

Yeah, so he'll get like removed from it one was for He got in trouble or they tried to have one I knew about yeah, they're like what he's saying this stuff He's like what I smoke he treats everyone very equally doesn't care about like female male It is yeah, you're private and you're a soldier and you're an idiot at the end of the day So I'm gonna smoke you yeah Same and that got him in trouble and that's where he was like, what the fuck is this dumb shit? you think it's related to what he does on YouTube or you think it's because we get people in trouble for doing dumb shit? I don't know cuz this one was I think was two females complained. Yes, I'm not mistaken that it was like, you know

Sexist or whatever it was. Yeah Get your ass on the ground or something. It's like well, well that was sexual It's like no he was telling you something like get your ass on the ground or something. It's like, well, well, that was sexual. It's like, no, he was telling you to get your fucking ass on the ground. And then they know him as a normal. But they know him as a drool sign. They know him as angry cops too. So he gets still that push back even as a police officer.

He's talked about it. That would have been like Cody being, dude, as big as you are as an active duty cop right now. Yeah, I wouldn't do it. I left because I started getting followers. I don't want to be a cop anymore. Yeah, I paid way more and people don't spit in my face. This is rad. I don't have to. Well, I mean, I gotta pay them. I didn't like that pronoun. I thought you said you guys were friends.

Well, I mean, you guys didn't get the white shirt memo. Yeah. said you guys were friends. Well, I mean you guys didn't get the white shirt Did you guys actually pick different no, we just we showed up to brunch today and both went Mixed it up a little bit. I didn't we did no the same color. The brothers got dressed this thing. Mom dressed just this white. So you asked how's it working with the active duty guys? I don't think it's working great. I think four or five of the big names kind of centrally working at Fort Cavazos What is it for that I was fucking very confused that Mexican which is where it's it's here. It's I know it's Texas but like some city in Texas Colleen Yeah, Kelly, it's like two and a half hours. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna it's up like, but like some city in Texas, Colleen. Yeah, Colleen in Texas. It's like two and a half hours.

Yeah. It's up like between here and Dallas. Yeah, we're in the same state. Oh, no shit. I thought Hood was way further away. I don't think so. Might be thinking about Bliss. Bliss, never mind.

Bliss is like eight hours. And it's over near New Mexico. OK, buddy. I'm retarded. So we have them. It's OK, we accept you. I don't know why or how they're at Cavazos, but we have them there.

I think they were there. And then we just run them together. But they're not working for public affairs. They're like public affairs adjacent. And so I don't know. All I know is like when we're doing good stuff, we just changed the Army fitness test. I'll go to them and say hey change our army fitness test here's the here's why

we change it here's you know what what we're saying about it you guys want to do something please it'd be great it'd be helpful to us and there were times when and I don't know if we named names or whatever some of the guys came back to me and said here do you want to see it before it goes out and I don't know if we named names or whatever. Some of the guys came back to me and said, here do you wanna see it before it goes out? And I'm like, I don't wanna see this shit. Because if you start worrying about me reviewing it. Now it's on me.

No, no, I don't care. I'll take all the risk. I'll take the risk saying, I'll take the risk saying I purposely did not review it. But, um, I always say this, like when people making videos and stuff, you know, you have a van go, you have a painting that you're very proud of. And then, uh, 16 levels of supervisors start putting the Post-it notes on the painting.

They're like, well, can you add this? And, you know, maybe you could make that shade a little bit darker because we're all super experts. And then you end up with new Star Wars. And then you end up with, yeah, yeah. There's a Star Wars thing over there. Bring back Jar Jar. Okay, please don't. That was a bad joke. I regret that immediately. I'm like, these guys are the experts, obviously, like, based on their success and what they,

you know, what they're, they're shown to be able to do. And I trust that they have the Army's best interests in mind. And so please just go do, don't ask me to fuck with your thing because it's not going to be better. It's probably going to be worse. So anyway, we need to give them the freedom to do the stuff we need to empower them and we would really, really like to keep them the freedom to to do the stuff we need to empower them and we really really like to keep them in the army

But there's a lot of money out there and it's you know, the army's still Requires a bunch of stuff from you It's still like a dumb bureaucracy oftentimes and so We got a we got to try to sort that out a little bit better We're real not really different than any large organizations, whether it's corporate government Yeah, you get an entity to a certain size. You're gonna have bureaucracy that just fucking sucks which which is weird because in World War two like we had we

It was the threat was existential. So we brought in people who we didn't think were normal for the army like Oppenheimer Like to do the Manhattan project. we brought in engineers to do something wild. So having people with unique skills that aren't resonant sort of at large, it's not new. We're just treating it. People get concerned and they get sort of weirded out. Social media, that's a skill. And you guys know, we talked about it a little bit, but but this morning like what you do is unique and difficult and it's not It doesn't scale very well. So bring those people then same with like technical expertise same with engineers

So it's it's not something we haven't done before It's just people are uncomfortable because it's different and one of the things that Dave's really good at and I would say even if it Wasn't here is just sort of going. Yeah. No, that's bullshit. We're gonna do it anyway Let's talk about the tech guys real quick. Without naming names. Okay. So we've got- Did you want to throw somebody under the bus real quick?

No, I want to like- I was like, can we name names? No, like I want to like applaud these guys because they're amazing Americans. I warned them first before we named names. So anyway, on the Army birthday, we're going to commission four high-level tech executives from companies that you'll, you know, very familiar companies.

And these guys came to us and they said, hey, we see what's going on in the change and everything. We want to be a part of it more than we are. And we want to prove that we're a part of it more than we are and we want to prove that we're part of it by wearing the cloth of the nation and so they're not doing it for the pay fellas. So now they're all we're gonna commission them as reservists on June 13th and wait they're actually so they're in the civilian side already doing very very well there yes tech executives like, they're actually, so they're in the civilian side already doing very, very well. They're tech executives. Like they're joining the fucking reserves?

Yep. Dude. Brandon's one of them. Yeah. I'm gonna go get another one. I'm gonna go get another one. Names, names. That's why he's going to Rangers school on the 14th.

I'll see y'all motherfuckers in 62 days. He's waiting to get shipped out by himself. He's like, oooooh, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, but it's super cool. motherfuckers in 62 days But it's super what do you mean activation Hopefully if it's right here. Brought to you by Butler. Not endorsing any... Yeah, I'd just get you fired real quick. You're going to Klandathu.

I saw one sitting over there, so I was like, oh. The US military does not endorse any brand of ball shaver. We accept all the ball shaver. So we're going to commission them. We're going to direct commission, which is an authority that Congress gave us several years ago, as cyber officers because they're all tech executives and we didn't have, they're not gonna be cyber people. Like they're not gonna be doing like offensive or anything, but that's the right place for them.

So it's one week in a month still? So this is the weird thing. So they have to do, it's actually not one week and a month. It's a number of hours a year. Hours a year. And what we're going to do is frankly, and all of us do the same thing. If we give you a hard problem, because what we're going to allow them to do is go to a unit, go, Hey, what is the hardest thing that you have? Let me help you think it through.

And everybody, all the ethics lawyers were like, Oh, they're going to help their companies. No, they're all billionaires. They're literally billionaires already. Their companies don't need the army's money. So no, they're not gonna have insider trading issues. They just wanna be there and be like, hey, how can we help you solve your problem? So 200 hours a year.

And frankly, what we're gonna do is we're gonna count it. They go and spend a day with one of our units and they go home and they're like, hey, I'm gonna think about this and like help you out. That counts. I mean, we'll get thousands and thousands of hours They're these guys a lot of that because they already in bed with us there So we're gonna commission them as lieutenant colonels. We get the SEC DEF approved it Congress is tracking They started as lieutenant colonels. Yep

Well, they're of that they're of that age So five weeks a year is essentially what you're asking from them. Basically. And just, just, just. Dude, can we be lieutenant colonels? Jesus, Eli's just like twisting that screwdriver and figuring out where to put it. No, that's for all of us.

We all become lieutenant colonels. It is funny, though, that you mention that, because you're like, these are already tech billionaires, whatever, because people have the concern, like they're going to pad their own pockets. I don't think those people have ever met anybody who's reached the $100 million line. No.

Because like, maybe you take out like some bankers and real estate people, whatever, like those types out of the equation. But like the people who made it by building a product just because they're smart guys and they just want to solve problems, they're built different. They are. That's right. And I had an opportunity to, so I know all of them personally, which is,

I'm very thankful that I get to like know these people and work with them and help solve problems. I spent hours with them in a van going out. We took them to NTC, like the greatest place on earth, Fort Irwin, California. And it was just one of the greatest times. We spent three hours going one way, three hours going the other way, just going like, hey, how do we think about this problem? How could you solve it? They just care about America enough to go, I'll do this.

Yeah. So it's very cool. That's a nice little teaser for June 13. So what's on the horizon for you guys after the 250? Just back to work? Back to work. Yeah, we've got a we've got a what I call in the infantry consolidate our gains and consolidate reorganize. So once once we go through kind of the budget cycle and cut all the stuff and we're reinvesting it and then so we've got to move the army to to reorganize based on that and to change

our training and our doctrine based on all the new stuff. Yeah so so through the rest of the summer the thing we keep mentioning and no we actually actually haven't talked about it is the SECDEF signed out a memo called Army Transformation Initiative and told us to do things. Yeah. Like consolidate two of our four star headquarters, consolidate some of our forces command with some of our Army North and Army South. So the rest of the summer is working through how do you do that mechanically? Like where do you put those people? Do we keep those people? Because like the other thing the

President and the White House and the sect effort saying is slim yourself down. Like the headquarters have gotten too bulky. There's a lot of fat to be trimmed. Thinking through how do we do that? And then frankly, and this is like the unromantic, unsexy thing from the Pentagon perspective, how do we set some of these things in motion and just let the army function and make sure that this stuff's there for them?

For them being soldiers in units. in motion and just let the army function and make sure that the stuff's there for them for them the being soldiers and units yeah it's kind of a big deal we're cutting uh a bunch we're cutting a four star headquarters actually yeah one main four star headquarters we're consolidating a bunch of commands uh cutting 40 plus 40 plus general officer positions. So General George has really been doing this since he got to be the chief, but the secretary of defense gave us the directive and the kind of permission to do it. And so we're leaning out all the top heavy stuff in the army and getting the um, getting the numbers back into the force.

You know, so you have non-commissioned officers and you have soldiers into formations and not surrounding 4-star generals somewhere. I bet you could probably help with some of the budgetary issues and whatnot if you guys just did an auction on the Millie portrait. Ooh, yeah. No comment. I would be very curious to see what that would sell for. And I know it's sitting in an office somewhere. So you want to talk about a tank?

No, I had to. I had to. Sorry. No, but like the other cool. I'm not expecting that. No, but there's a lot of other cool stuff going on. So like the headquarters stuff, that's all like bureaucracy stuff. Um, if you want to know the cool stuff, the army's doing, like we're going to do

live fires on the new tank, like I'm going to go to Detroit in July and see live fires and like, how do we do that? Um, we'll drive it in December. We'll do new rocket tests in July. We'll do, um, fly our new drones all through the summer. Like the army. Can we be part of any of that? Is it public?

We need to bring it out. Yeah. It will figure it out. Not open to the public, but you know what I mean? Like, yeah, like it's not classified. And, and I love being able to tell taxpayers, here's how we're spending your money, here's how we're spending our money. We're doing the right thing.

So yeah, like it'll be on our dime will fucking fly out there if you give it I'm talking about like with like with like the tank stuff. Yeah, we'll still fly out. Oh, yeah But if you let us shoot that shit, that'd be awesome No The USA shit where it's like, oh we went to Sudan and spent two billion dollars on male circumcision. God, man, I really just fucking hate the IRS. I see a tank blow up some shit from a mile away. I'm like, I could pay a little bit of taxes. We'll think about this.

This new tank is kick-ass. It is. I don't even know what the new one is. So it's called the M1E3. E3P. So the Abrams. The Abrams is an amazing tank. Yeah. It is the best main battle tank in the world. You definitely can. The M1A2V3, like the Abrams. When I saw it, it was like hidden in a tent. Yeah, I know. Is that it?

No, that's a webpage. Yes, that's like the mock-up. Um, so like one of the things that's about that is it has an auto loader. So how do you take like the same way that your, your rifle, like you pull the trigger ones and it cycles, like right now inside of an Abrams fucking pull it and it do literally open their hands. So what if we just automated that so we'll start doing that the to my understanding the soviets were we're super big in the autoloaders right yeah russians got really good at it yeah but that was one of the weaknesses of their tanks is that the

autoloaders basically you hit anything into the turret and all those rounds go off and it'll fail yeah holy shit the camera's on that bitch yeah so I'm assuming that's a solved problem in this Yeah So that's what we're going through testing on so that like if you if you take a round like the main battle tank should be Able to tank a round right and and not Self-destruct so yeah, well the Soviets weren't very good at that part true lol But that wasn't in their budgetary

The reason they have so many cameras is what what if that tank was also like, I don't know, optionally manned? What if it was a robot itself? And what if we had, I don't know, like F1 seats in there that were comfortable to drive and you could have software driving it for you and help you so that you don't have four dudes in a big metal box that have to crawl at the Back of something catastrophic happens. That's why I was like so a lot of the you were even saying with breaching It's like hey, we can just have something An object. Yeah, no object breach and then you don't have to worry about a soldier getting yeah fucked up Yeah, which we've done by the way the remote breaching no shit. so have you heard of the Mick Lick mine? I'm gonna assume mine clearing shoots that big charge. Yeah And then blows up. It's like a big thing at deck court essentially exactly exactly so right now Soldiers drive that up there you drive it up to the lot to the minefield

Yeah, and you have to clear the mine and everybody knows where you're going and everybody's shooting at you Yeah, so what if you just had a robot do that or even better? What if you had a robot drive up and like a bunch of small drones come off of it, go find the mines because they can have a camera and you just go boop and blow up the mines. So you actually have something like what if we just didn't put soldiers in really shitty situations all the time? Cause we have robots to do it for you. put soldiers in really shitty situations all the time because we have robots for you to think i want me shields that's where i was well the russian army has some new openings they have five rounds and one rifle and you just figure it out it's funny though it's an important point though because it's funny

though it's important point though because at the end of the day right as savage as we are human beings are you're not wars are won by putting soldiers in the mud it's on taking and holding terrain yeah so we still need it all this drones and robots and stuff and all this stuff that this guy's like developing in his evil bedroom at night or Evil And better That's my thinking space Anyway, it's not it's not gonna replace. I have a lot of

Soldiers on the ground and so so our stuff is built around getting soldiers in the position to take and hold ground. But not making them do the shitty jobs. By, by not, well, the dangerous ones. So like, what's good at dull, dirty, dangerous. Um, that's what robots are good for. And all the things that like soldiers

will always do dangerous things. Like we expect them on behalf of the country to do like terrible things on our behalf. Driving. Finding every port-a-potty possible. Like Kuwait does. Kuwait's a terrible place. Like what if some of the things that we know, we know that we can stop that. What if into the breach, into the first dude in the door, what if that was a robot every

time instead of just one of our guys? That'd be cool. Right? So second guy in isn't soaking up all the fire because the robot's gone. And if the robot blows up and dies, okay-hmm Okay, like Wally like we'll do One oh, yeah. Well, I mean according to my Marine Corps friends the first guy ends usually an m67 frag grenade There is that what if the robot threw googly? with googly Hey, shit ass. As-la-va-le-co. What is it?

Fucking Craighead? Hello, Muhammad. But we're just sweating. So, but what's replaced with sweat? What's replaced with pride grenade? So we are sending now a drone in, you know, like,

like, like, like, So, but what's your place? So it's culture. What's your place? So we are sending now a drone in, you know, like the, the high end special operations units, Baghdadi, others were killed. The drones are going in first. Oh dude, is it? Yep.

Dogs with cameras. Yeah, actually one of my buddies was on that raid. Like yeah. Cool story. But yeah, they were on that and the dog because the way they actually pivot they said the dog died and dog was fine yeah the work yeah fine and the robot dog no the dog dog dog dogs yeah camera drones explosive drones yep send it all that shit this is regiment doing some of their FEV stuff where that's their shoot house.

And they literally flew the drone in and then cleared it. No shit. Whoa, whoa, that's fucking dope. Cool. So it's just a little drone that goes in first. And think about it, you put a nine banger on and the like you don't care about the drone coming back but you fly a nine banger in and you clear it and the first dude in like everybody's before the first guy breaches. Like we could do that every time. That's like wow yeah uh Baghdad he clapped himself off before. Yeah because he was

a pussy. Yeah yeah. So you got like dollars and everything from it. And then that's the one I showed you about earlier. Like that's the ISV with the, like all the gun mounts on it. Show him that that's his wheelhouse. Oh, that absolutely is just Warthog-esque. Hey, right? Like I'm like, where's the Gauss cannon? But you know, the Rangers have to, have to like, gun it up and I'm like, it's not for fighting from guys. No, it's a, it's a true transport.

It gets you there so you don't have to walk in 12 miles. Lots of guns on it. So is every acquisition process as fucking, as much of a shit show as the NGSW program? Yes. That's not fair. So, so it's super easy to shit on acquisition people. There's a lot of really good ones like our acquisition.

Alex used to be an acquisitions guy. No I'm qualified as an acquisition professional. He's got the acquisition fab. Yeah, it's like PowerPoint Ranger. So like our acquisition military deputy, he's a three star, he's phenomenal. I've worked with him for a decade. Like he is a change maker. Our current principal deputy for acquisition, you just came from Congress.

He's a change maker. And not to shit on the guys, but the process itself. Okay. So we're changing. We are changing. So during her was Asian of needs. Well, yeah. So, so during GWOT, we had like a way better way to do this. If you were like, Hey, I need something. We were like, yeah, why wouldn't we buy that? And we just bought things. So we bought a credit card, like, right.

Yeah. So if it was card like right. Yeah. So if it was legal, moral and ethical then it's legal, moral and ethical now. So what we're doing now is instead of like, we do this stupid thing where we have a requirements document and somebody who's making up words and they sound really cool and the documents like this thing and nobody ever actually reads it. Um, and, and I mean that and everybody probably just got really offended. I don't care. Like nobody actually reads those things.

So what if we just said, Hmm, it should work. It should probably do like these things. It should work. It should work. It should probably do these things. Describing like outcomes instead of three pages. So for, so for our command and control stuff and everybody here has seen tack or itac or atac

where it's literally like an Android app on a phone. So as we redo all of our command and control things, like we just said, hey, what if commanders could see to their unit from a tablet? What if we could just see everything from a tablet? Like build the architecture that does that. Because I can see everything on Google Maps. I can put tabs down. Like we know the technology exists.

Like the unit did this a decade ago. It's simple people can already use it. Yeah, exactly. The UI is already like, if you've used an iPhone, you know how to drop pins. Like everybody already intuitively. That's right. It's the reason why the baseball grenade.

Like exactly. Yes. Yeah. So if we told industry, pins like everybody already into it's like the reason why the baseball grenade like yes, yeah, so So we told if we look for industry Well, like 97% of kids coming to the army have never thrown a baseball. It worked in World War two. It did Yeah, wait, what? Oh, wait, pause. So let's go back to the afternoon. Okay So what if we just told industry like the best of industry? Like the companies that we have working on the first tranche and I can say this nobody should get, like the best of industry, like the companies that we have working on the first tranche, and I can say this, nobody should get offended, like the Palantir, the Andrals, the Microsoft, the Googles, the Kavini's, the Sierra Nevada, like what if we just said,

hey, it should sort of work on a tablet, figure out the rest of it so it doesn't suck. And we just let them sort of work together, like literally set it on a table and go like, here's what it should look like, here's how we should work. It should be as easy as we give it to you, it's on an iPhone, You figure out if it's something doesn't work, you tell us and we'll fix it. What if we just did that instead of this whole bullshit process that takes seven years and you are like out of the service by the time we give it to you. It's almost like how the hellfire or the drones where it's like, Hey, just give them to a give them an Xbox controller.

Yeah. And then these kids know how to do exactly like there's a reason that companies design the way they do for our everyday lives. What if we just did that? So we did. So we put some of these guys on contract. We said, get around the table, figure it out. Four months later, they came up with the first prototype. We took it to NTC.

We gave it to an armor formation. So we gave it to a bunch of tankers. We gave it to a striker unit and we said, does it work? And they went, this is way better than anything because they could See themselves they could see the enemy they could task each other They could talk to each other and it was super simple So we told him hey like don't watch pred porn all the time Like that shoes up all your bandwidth and we know we all like watching the strikes but like like don't do that

Yeah, and they went okay The option to? Yeah, like you can- Oh, that'd be a harder one not to watch. Well, like it's like, it's the bad habits of GY. You're always pulling in. You're always pulling in.

Like you could see footage. You had access, so you watched it. Full motion video. It's just like. Oh, they're going buzzer on. They're going buzzer on. Um. So, so we said like hey what if somebody's

hiding all the bad what happened my frame rate yeah like what are those three guys doing over there so yeah what's gonna happen to the go so so and then what if we like said hey there's Starlink antennas and Starshell antennas, we could give you bandwidth. So we let them iterate on that for a year. And that is going to replace all of our command and control systems. So all of the, like the fire systems, which we've had those for 30 years. It's really good at what it does.

What if it was just like, there's a target, I don't want to strike it. What are my options? Or what if AI was like, hey, there's a target I don't want to strike at, what are my options? Or what if AI was like, hey, there's a target, you can strike it, here are your options, here's the best one. It's AI saying, and here's the best way to fire at it. Yeah, and so you don't go all Winchester on everything. Yeah, but just to describe what the old fire system was,

it's standalone boxes, standalone computer boxes with its own satellite trailer with you know it's every single thing we have is a standalone system that requires men maintenance the whole thing and now what if every app on your iPhone I had to give you a new iPhone like that's the thing yeah you had to have a carry like 17 different iPhones just a like function in life I love the AI process of it because then it is no different than chess AI. It's like, hey, here's the greatest move that you can do. Here's the second best, here's the third best. It's just doing that for you. But there still needs to be that human touch to it to be like, hey, okay,

let's do this one. And it's not magic, right? So like there's, like we have had some of the best technologists in the world because when we first tried this, so that that process is called weapon hearing. It's like how do you match the thing that you want to kill with the thing that can kill it? The easiest answer for AI upfront was like everything gets a tomahawk. Like tomahawk tomahawk. Like you'll definitely kill it with a tomahawk. Like one tank tomahawk. Tomahawk Thomas like you'll definitely like a lot like Once you develop the meta If it ain't broke Well, then we were like a hundred percent results. What if we didn't have infinite Tomahawks like what if the game shark wasn't on? Pitcher that fucking meme video of like the nose of the aircraft going, oh. And they're like, oh, no more Tomahawks, SM3. It's like, what if we didn't have that?

So it's like, how do we train these things so that they actually do the things that are useful? So if you actually have what's useful in a fight. Um, cause not everything's going to get like Tom Hawks and everything's going to get a B2 strike. So it's, it's training and then some stuff should lots of things. We're just going to glass it. That's one of my, my personal favorite upgrades in this administration is the fact that the President of the United States will post on social media just through the official White House account flat out just thermal war porn.

Bro, that was the most wild thing to see. It happened again this week. I didn't even see that, dude. Oh yeah, he basically just like, oh, these are 10 Somalis that were a problem and now they're not We send out the group test cuz it's like yo, and then you check where it comes from and you're like Pull that in from the internal network, they could just go to Twitter. Yeah, or to social That's a valid target

But but like How do we recover from this? The AI stuff, though, is just there's one more level on the targeting. Because like, what we're seeing, there's a little more sticking out of a thing. And so human eye, drone footage, you might not pick that up. But AI is like, no. Yeah, so that bumper's an enemy bumper. And so human eye, drone footage, you might not pick that up. But AI is like, no, that bumper's an enemy bumper. Like two of the exact same thing.

They could be Hylexis, they could be BTRs, they could be whatever. But what if like, what if I was just like, now my AI can go, hey, that's the one you were tracking. Like that specific dent in that specific place, that's the one that we were looking at before. This is the same target. We can track it all the way through. Dude, people we were, we talked about the other day with the

chess AI and how it can develop. Someone got caught cheating in an AI term at a low level and they're like, well, I didn't cheat. And then who was it? Who was it? Loop? Oh, yeah. And it was like, which means Wolf in Italian.

Does it? Yeah. I just retired a guy named Pete Lupo. Oh, I didn't even know that. Just so you know, now you do, but cheating on a, like chess is the easiest thing to catch and when a dude is the AI will give you every strongest move. And then if somebody else does a dumb move, then it's like, Oh, well, here's the next best move for that's calculating everything.

As you said, at this level of the degree. So that's where human error is not going to catch that, but AI 100% is going to catch that and faster. And, and yeah. And it's a, it's a scale thing, right? So everybody AI is like a buzzword. Everybody loves it. And we use it all the time.

Like I don't, I used to know how the algorithms for ways work and I just stopped caring because it works enough for me. But that's a version of AI. It's terrifying. It is, but yeah. It's like Skynet's on the way. And I'm like, I for one, welcome our glorious robot overlords.

Please don't kill me first. I definitely also welcome the American version more than the Chinese one. Yeah. Totally. People act like if we don't, people act like if we don't do it, then nobody else will. They're absolutely not like the social credit scores are real thing. Like that is all facial recognition tied to like your personality. I'm safe my eyes.

How do you get your score up? Just ask me. Just want to know it. If you have to, if you have to social, how do you get your score up? I'm just asking. I'm just wondering. Anyway. If you have to ask, you can't afford it. Social media is how you get your credit score. Social media score? What is it? Social credit score. Yeah.

We'd be good. I think. No. It's not that kind of social. No. It's not based on fall. Fuck! We're screwed!

How good of a citizen you are. Oh, no! If you spit on the sidewalk, you might not be good. Oh, no. We're screwed! Like how good of a citizen you are. Oh no! If you spit on the sidewalk, you might not be good. Oh no, we're fucked. We're definitely all going to the Gulag. I'm gonna find the best rock. If you've ever, uh... If you've ever compared glorious leader to Winnie the Pooh, you fucked.

Glorious? Okay, well AI conversations done I actually think you guys have to actually get this wrapped up first up where do we find well army army or where do we find the Pentagon go army.com yep that's the easiest way army spokesman like what's our website do you know every the best Army spokesman. I'm like, what's our website? Goarmy.com. Army spokesman. Goarmy.com. Goarmy.com. Anything else you guys want to say while we still have you here?

Thanks for having us on, honestly. What you guys do is unique and it's certainly important. It's just a group of dudes that sit around table and BS like any of us could, but then you stumble on some really important things. And so like you did in Buffalo and, and, uh, things like having us on. We really, really appreciate that. And I mean it from bottom of heart and from the secretary and chief. Uh, thanks. Appreciate you guys a lot.

Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Can I, can I be like a zealot for the army for a second? The, I want to reiterate, like we have a bad ass army. Like we do everything everywhere, every day on every continent. Like people don't understand the global response force for the world is 18th airborne core, the immediate response force for the world is 18th Airborne Corps. The immediate response force for the world is 82nd Airborne Division. The Homeland Defense Brigade under 10th Mountain is under 4th ID, is 2nd Brigade. We are the Corps of Engineers, National Guard does all of the humanitarian assistance.

Like your army is responsible for literally everything, every day, every mission around the world. And that's like, that is why it's certainly why I get up every day and go to work It's I know it's same for Dave. I know it's the same for general George. I know it's the same for secretary Driscoll But as we think through what the future of the army is we are literally thinking every mission every day every hour every continent And I'm thank you guys for letting us have a platform and sharing it with you We appreciate it. Thanks for making the trip guys. You guys are here. Cody, do your job. Bye everyone. Thank you for coming to the unsubscribe podcast.

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