Unsubscribe Podcast - 73 - TWITCH SCANDALS ft. Klean

Episode Date: September 29, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Everything- wait what are we doing? Everything is awesome! Everything is cool when you're part of a team! Thank you. Wait what are these things? Are we doing what? Are we doing what? I don't remember but I'ma do jello shots. Are these warm or cold?
Starting point is 00:00:12 These are cold. This is definitely... a green. Wow. He's a psychic. That's all that's left. He's psychic dude. It's psychic. It's just like-
Starting point is 00:00:21 It's like reaching into an MRE box and be like, this is... veggie egg omelette. Cause it's the only thing in the fucking box. Dude, those were so bad. Say hi to Eli. He's racially ambiguous and baddie. That guy's fucking ridiculous and donut. It's harder to rhyme, but he's a really nice guy.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Welcome to unsubscribe. Hey, guys. Thanks for watching unsubscribe podcast. Make sure wherever you're listening or watching, whether it's on YouTube, Castro, Spotify, Apple, Google, Amazon, Podbean, Stitcher, or that's all of them. Please leave a comment, like it, thumbs up it, give it a rating of five stars, whatever you do. It helps the podcast out immensely. And Donut and eli will be very happy if you do that and we want to make
Starting point is 00:01:10 happy today yeah for five stars on everything and a comment if there is possible because we need to be at the top donut say something motivating and that's where the you come that is come subscribe I just want to see what the fucking red one is hold on well give me a red wait what's cherry it's cherry no I want no cherry bro strawberry strawberry you gotta do a cherry the white one looks like a shot of cum here you go I got this shit this is exactly what I'll do the cum shot We're doing are we doing a three cummies well it cleans not but I'll do one
Starting point is 00:02:06 With y'all does this count You splatter it Wait oh, oh, it's so jizzy We're doing Calling it Like hairspray it does do no smell its hairspray. Oh straight up actually yeah Hairspray for life, I mean I Love haircuts It tastes like hairspray That was better than the Tito shot we did last 100% I don't know what about the Tito's we drink It looks like you're in a little bit of pain. Honestly like dude look
Starting point is 00:02:54 Get the dribbles out of the cup. Yeah, I don't leave the dribbles. I'm sorry If you if you put your finger in it, you can get the last It looks just like cum, that's fucked up Oh it tastes like fucking hairspray That is very much hairspray What's the blue one taste like? Are we just doing this? Are we doing a taster?
Starting point is 00:03:22 I'm good, no thanks Oh god this one juiced on me It's not come because it doesn't string See this is how you know it's not the real stuff guys is disappointing flood punch in put on epic music go God it's everywhere. It's all over me. Oh, yeah, I gotta do blue Blue doesn't smell like hairspray. You know you should just get a shirt made. It's common Okay, it does you're right. I think that's the vodka that smells like hairspray It's probably just the shitty. It's probably like the shittiest vodka like Where does this come from? I got drunk and ordered three tubs of Jell-O shots.
Starting point is 00:04:05 But from where? I love how it just says vodka with natural and artificial flavors and artificial colors that are approved. They're approved. They're approved. How can they sell alcohol over? So you buy it online and it goes to a service that then delivers it to your door, but you have to sign for it. Which is weird because I didn't get ID'd. Great that I also don't look like a fucking child
Starting point is 00:04:30 The tattoos and beard are kind of a giveaway, but like sir We're gonna need to see an ID. We're gonna need to see an ID that beard fake you look like a child I read on Tarkov the beard was artificial Okay, one last true I mean we opened up a clock It just slides in there so smooth it's like I'm spray they start to taste better everyone I drink You're just building up tolerance to hair spray our hair My god
Starting point is 00:05:03 Yeah, and then bugs in the house Hi everyone, welcome to the unsubscribed podcast Fucking hate you Fucked me up Today, I'm joined by Eli Bubblebath And our good, best, beautiful, water cool Bleen Part of the team
Starting point is 00:05:21 Ooh I just came up with that Dude, you should be a rapper. You just need to make a label now and start rapping. Hi, I'm Batty Reams. Batty Screams. Batty Screams, there it is. Honestly, I'm really mad I didn't think of that sooner.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Also loves cum shots. Batty Cum Shots. You know, it wasn't bad. It wasn't bad. It wasn't good. That's how I like my product to be described. Hi. Ever want something not bad?
Starting point is 00:05:54 It's not that great either. But look, dude, they're red, white, and blue slurp shots. There's a lot of R's on that slurp. It was fucking hairspray. Celebrate America. With hairspray. What better way to celebrate your independence than some cum jello shots? I guarantee this is made in China. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Wait, where is this made? I don't, don't ask questions. Probably not in America. That's what's, where is it? Product of China. Does it say that? Yeah. Imported by slurp
Starting point is 00:06:29 I really wish you would have read that we got gingivitis again Now we know how China infiltrated the United States. Oh God Savannah for them. I haven't had a Whataburger and I don't fast food in general. I just can't fucking have yeah I definitely did have a burger last night Two bites and I was just like okay. That's enough. Did you share my stomach's just like bro? What the fuck we're like punching itself dude motherfucker. What did you do to me dude? I have a Whataburger for shooting out my chest chest i was like oh god what happened to my tongue is pissed right now you got some gastrointestinal issues homie 100 i poop a lot that's good that's what some people
Starting point is 00:07:13 don't poop enough actually like some people are do you have to poop no i just don't know hey guys head over to attareggs.com out of regs with a z and you can check out baddies beard cream beard oil or donuts op donut operators uh beard cream mustache wax beard oils uh they also have an amazing citrus smooth operator uh body wash shampoo whatever you can fucking need pomade which i think ray foundation pomades um head over there use code unsub or come 20 and save a little bit of money on your body wash or hair care products. I just like they do. People still, they're like, holy shit, you guys
Starting point is 00:07:50 make body wash and shampoo too? It's like, yeah, motherfuckers. We make pretty much everything. If you can get the smooth operator, body wash is the best one. You like that citrus smell. I do. Citrus is nice. I like it. It doesn't match my body type. It's not a ginger, I get it.
Starting point is 00:08:05 It's the orange. I'm attracted to orange like it. It doesn't match my body type. It's not my favorite ginger. I get it. Exactly. It's the orange. I'm attracted to orange things. I get it. It doesn't work with my body type. I'm like a sandalwood or. Yes. Sandalwood.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Yeah. Mexican, you are on a highway picking oranges and selling them to me. This is your. This is your scent. Smooth operator is you. Go purchase smooth operator today. My cousin makes it. Hey!
Starting point is 00:08:31 Hi, everyone. I know. I'm trying to get the energy. I was doing other stuff, and it's like, boom! Energy. Jello shots? You're going again? Jesus.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I'm going to do a third one at some point, because I've got to do the red and white. Might as well just get it over with. Yeah, just load it up. We're going to work through it. I've got a lot of complaining to do today and i don't i want to be able to coherently speak about my complaining you know what i mean i don't want to twig baddie's going on another woman tangent oh typical baddie baddie why do you hate him so much i'm just going to complain for an hour about that. You just bitch for an hour. I'm like, wow, this podcast changed drastically. Twitch was a woman.
Starting point is 00:09:13 If there's this woman hypothetically named Twitch. Named Twitch. I would have dumped her a long time ago. She's a bitch. She's very bipolar. She takes your money and takes you for granted. What are we allowed to discuss and not discuss? There's there's there's no like guidelines or TOS like we're going we can talk about everything. Yeah, there's no reason not to fuck
Starting point is 00:09:33 Yeah, I really have no Milk in this fight. I don't think that's the staying milk Come in this fight. Yeah, I'm coming this way. I just put my hand in that You're worried about you wiping it on you when you just drink that shit Skin but I'll drink it on my just inside you oh my god guys twitch fucked up yeah they've been fucking up big time so tonight at 10 i'm glad we got clean on today because i wanted to talk about this and cleans the other big streamer out here in our little group of idiots and recently twitch Came out and made it everybody angry like you know the fucking meme from fallout 4 like everybody never like that
Starting point is 00:10:33 But it's like that. Yeah, everybody literally just like that except for like their CEO We like it Man that strategy meeting. I already know how it went to it's like no one will care Release it at 3 in the morning Make sure everyone's asleep. All right, we're gonna give a little context first. Yeah people listening or know like what's a twitch? I actually remember Has those I remember when I went to my gun store back in Oregon and they had arranged I want to start doing range streams. I was like, Hey, like I stream on Twitch, like blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:11:05 blah. He's like, he's like, is that a fucking drug? He's like, just don't shoot people here. Like, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:11 It just made me think of that. I don't care what you do on your own time, sir. If you want to Twitch on your own time, just don't do it here. Yeah. And not in front of the children. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:11:21 You're Twitching. You're Twitching? Are you okay? Can you see a doctor about your twitchings? Okay, Michael J. Fox, come here. So, the way Twitch... Holy shit! I love those jokes that take a second.
Starting point is 00:11:36 It's like, wait, the slow burn. Fucking A, man. So, on Twitch, the way most of us make money Or the way you start out by making money Whatever you want to call it is through subscriptions Kind of like on YouTube Subs are different than Twitch subs A YouTube sub is free
Starting point is 00:11:54 That's like a follow on Twitch But you can pay $4.99 For a subscription to a streamer So you don't get any ads And that's kind of like the appeal of Twitch You help support us, we make money And you don't get any ads and that's kind of like the appeal of twitch you help support us we make money and you don't have to watch ads you also get little fucking emotes and alerts and crazy things happen in the channel when you sub normally twitch offers 50 50 sub split meaning of that five dollars the streamer gets 250 and
Starting point is 00:12:21 the government takes a dollar government can take a lot more than a dollar. And then Twitch will take $250. So $50, $50 because we're in this together. We love our creators. We support them. Without our creators, we would be nothing. And it's kind of been like an unspoken thing where after like a goal for most Twitch partners, which, you know, when you become verified on Twitch, you become a Twitch partner.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And it's kind of like a goal for everybody to get to a higher sub revenue split Which is you you're supposed to acquire 500 individual subscribers that are not prime subs nor gifted And then you get a 70-30 split from that 50-50 yep, or 60-40, and I just recently found out 80-20 was a thing Yeah, there's also 90 tens for some people. I'm sure the 90 tens. Yeah the biggest I didn't know that's that's for like that's like the homeboy homeboy at fucking twitch is fucking somebody at twitch Yeah, it's or something crazy shit man It's totally worth but super worth I mean you make a lot of money like I wish I got a 90-10 split on my subs Holy, dude. I mean the fact that like I know I had the 70-30
Starting point is 00:13:20 I've been on that for a while a year and whatever Six years for me. Fuck yeah, bro. And that was a lot of work to get to that point. You had to grind your ass to the ground to get to that point, really. And that was the next level of the partner. For me, I started streaming in December of 2016. I really took it seriously in 2017, the beginning of that year.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I was the last wave of partners under OG Twitch requirements, which were you had to make 450 to 550 viewers for 60 days straight. No breaks. Then you got partnered. And the only way you made revenue was subscriptions and PayPal donations. That was it. There was no bits. There was no prime.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Oh, yeah. I remember those days. It was before affiliates. Yeah, it was before affiliates. It was before everything. And I did that my first two and a half months streaming, which was pretty unheard of. But that's when I was first streaming streaming tarkov and first parkov had just
Starting point is 00:14:08 opened there's like you and a couple other guys it was like 15 of us that had our ndas lifted i'm the only one who really took it seriously yeah um and so then like once you got partnered you had to get 500 individual subs and then that's when you got your 70 30 split but you had to maintain 500 subs i think for a month or two months throughout, and then you could get the split. And then... ribeye you ordered without even leaving the kiddie pool. Whatever groceries your summer calls for, Instacart has you covered. Download the Instacart app and enjoy $0 delivery fees on your first three orders. Service fees, exclusions, and terms apply. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. Like your rep would come to you and be like, hey, or you would apply. Yeah. Usually if you, well, back then when you got partnered you immediately everybody had a rap
Starting point is 00:15:06 Every no shit every partner had a not know that it was a much small community Yeah, as much as much smaller back there, you know the partner number of partners back when you first got partnered I have no idea but again like I said this house Yeah, this was like back when I got partnered if you had 500 viewers you are a big fucking stream Yeah, the most views on Twitch were like 10 15,000 like that was like the biggest yeah I'm watching shroud being like dude. He's got over fucking 15,000 Yeah, that was that was like holy fuck it people breaking 10,000 I remember when people were breaking 10,000 that was fucking it was a big deal back then it but it was just what?
Starting point is 00:15:40 2017 2016 2017 give or take and And then you know once Amazon came into the picture and they had the affiliate program and then like a lot of people started getting Into twitch because they opened up the accessibility for people to essentially grow There's a lot more tools now than there was back then so much and It that's when everything just started growing and then kovat happened and that's when twitch really fucking Exponentially because everybody couldn't leave their fucking house. They're inside. playing video games ordering fucking doordash and shit everyone was watching twitch streams yeah yeah that's that's when like will blew up a lot that's when i got a lot of growth i mean that's that's pretty much for me yeah pretty much everybody on twitch literally made me a fucking
Starting point is 00:16:16 streamer yeah but so so going back to the split though like that was that was a goal for most streamers because that's a 20 20 more revenue off your subs. And back then, that was the only source of revenue besides PayPal. And that's a big fucking deal. Because a 500-viewer streamer, those guys make most of the money from their whales and the individual subscribers. And they don't really get that many sponsored offers. But once you kind of get to the point where you're getting 2,000, 3,000, 4,000 viewers, you're making more money off of sponsorship deals than you are your subs and donations. Even though you do make a lot Those sponsorships really like start to they yeah it exponentially
Starting point is 00:16:50 Man, it's getting like 500 600 bucks for a sponsors dream. You're talking thousands Typically your CCB is usually the indicator for most companies on how much you get paid So like for me, I maintain like 1200 viewers. So if I was i was getting paid for a sponsor they pay me 2400 it's usually almost double your double your ccb below that like i've stopped taking offers now at this point for the most part just because i'm in that weird middle ground where people are still like oh we'll offer you a dollar or just under a dollar for ccv and i'm like fuck off yeah that's insane yeah so like that that's kind of where like once you start growing when you're cleaning sizes you start getting double triple your ccv for sponsorship deals
Starting point is 00:17:28 Versus under that one viewer we goals one dollar thing that's that's where like subscribers are huge for most of those people because now like I think Like myself. I'm like top 500 us yeah in the United States like that's and there's a lot of fucking streamers There's like thousands of fucking partners. Oh, yeah, and For for guys like baddie like you make most of your revenue from subscribers and people who donate and people support you and so like People like you and there's a lot of people like you who get fucking hit hard by this new split because after you've made a hundred thousand dollars from subs Then you have a 50-50 split after that so if you have you usually maintain like four to five thousand subs which is well over
Starting point is 00:18:04 a hundred thousand dollars a year just from scriptures absolutely you're now you're now taking like a 20 fucking percent pay cut it's like getting a set like working your ass off for a promotion getting that salary and then like eight months into the year they're like oh yeah your salary never mind yeah here's a new one they take it away and that's like think of it like this you now you make your first hundred grand you make another additional hundred grand twitch usually took 70 or twitch took 30 grand from that you made 70 grand now after that next hundred they're like oh no we're taking 50 000 this time you did the exact same amount of work we did nothing else other than made you work harder we're taking more of your
Starting point is 00:18:41 revenue and i think i think the reason why they have that is because they are offering a lot of money for the Ad Incentive Program right now. So if you get over a thousand viewers, you can stream 150 to maybe 200 hours a month depending on your offer, and you'll make 15K on ads alone, outside of everything else. Problem is, most people don't have that. It's true, you have to hit about a thousand viewers
Starting point is 00:18:59 on average in order to start getting that margin. And which is- Your 100 viewer, your 100 to 200 viewer partners that's are getting bro 200 to 400 a month yeah that's it's it's fucking nothing it's just not worth it that's where the sub hits these guys so hard and these guys you know they're like they like i got good numbers i'm on my low end getting a thousand a month yeah like my best one was like 37 and that was me pumping so many ads what like six five minutes an hour seven minutes i haven't i haven't even gotten an offer for that yet the
Starting point is 00:19:31 most i've had is six minutes genicles uh and on another tarkov streamer awesome kind of creator um she had an offer like her offers were like nine eight and seven minutes nine minutes of ads dude and like that's all that's gonna do Do is push more people away from the platform It's not like again like I think the way that a lot of the twitch execs see it is they're like oh if okay if We start pumping these ads down their fucking throat It'll make people want to sub to the streamer so they don't see ads But it's like there's also twitch turbo which they never advertise which is $9 a month you subscribe to twitch And you don't see ads on any channel to bread or YouTube premiums, and that's why it's worth it
Starting point is 00:20:03 The thing is they don't fucking advertisement if you have to find it you actually have to google it specifically There's no easy way to go to the main page and find twitch turbo You literally have to google twitch turbo and it takes you to a page like they really like kind of hide it and they don't Want a lot of people to know about it course which is kind of gonna go away. Yeah, I probably will be I Mean twitch turbo has been around since I started it's been around for a long long time But ads were a lot different back then they weren't like playing them as much they weren't mid roles pre-rolls What about but like okay? So just to summarize here where the fuck we're at right now, so twitch came out with a big Simmer
Starting point is 00:20:39 Twitch to anger I'm angry dude twitch came out with a big, basically. They released it at 3 in the morning local time, so California 3 a.m. or East Coast 5 a.m. And they're like, hey, we know all of you smaller partners have been grinding and pushing for this 70-30 split, this next level, the promotion. The only reason to really try a lot harder, other than your own well-being, which don't get me wrong, we all work, we all want a promotion, we all want it.
Starting point is 00:21:04 That doesn't matter what your job is. And they're like, yeah, we're never going to do that for anybody again. That's done. That's gone. Nobody's getting a 70-30 split. And if you already are contracted with a 70-30 split, so like people like me and Clean who have already done that work, after you make your first hundred
Starting point is 00:21:19 grand, you're now no longer getting that 70-30 split and you're dropping down. You may be like, well, that's a lot of money. Why are you complaining you complaining well because i worked my fucking ass off to get where i am and to suddenly have my salary if you will granted we're all contractors or subcontractors uh to have that cut fucking sucks yeah it's it's a big cut um it's just it's just a bit disheartening just because like you get like you said a lot of those guys who've been working for that they've been trying to get it and now they know there's just no chance in hell that they're ever going to get it. It just kind of sucks because that's just like a low blow.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Because again, if a bunch of people walked out on Twitch and just stopped streaming, the platform would die. Absolutely. It would die. And they've been working in the red. And if you guys don't know what that means, essentially when a company works in the red, they're losing money rather than profiting money. They've been working in the red for, I want to say, two to three years now.
Starting point is 00:22:05 It's been a while. Yeah. Yeah. And for whatever reason, Amazon just doesn't really care. Well, they own the live space. Yeah. It's a weird one when you're like working in the red. A lot of companies will project, hey, we're in the red because business reasons.
Starting point is 00:22:19 That's what companies do. Yeah. And then because YouTube, they didn't like for fucking a decade and a half. They're like now we're in the red You don't make money You two ain't struggle. Yeah, that's true It's much better off. I mean YouTube really could come in and swoop in the whole live streaming space But they just don't have the tools yet. They don't have the discoverability yet like it's It's just it's not it's it's like they could get there, but it's gonna take a lot more work
Starting point is 00:22:43 Well, it's it's what you design that app off of or the program. When you initially start it, you go to Twitch to watch video games. It's like Facebook gaming or Facebook streaming. No one fucking cared because Facebook was meant for old people or checking on family. That's about it. So that's what I would go to Facebook, Twitch, watch my buddies. Yeah. Game, game, game, YouTube, watch fucking videos.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I'm not going in. I don't like watching live streams on YouTube for whatever reason. I have a weird. Yeah, game, game, game. YouTube, watch fucking videos. I'm not going in. I don't like watching live streams on YouTube. For whatever reason, I have a weird dissonance. Yeah, no, I agree. I think that's a lot of people. It's just that the live stream experience is not the same. Twitch has just been doing it for so long. It's very authentic, and they just have a formula that no other platform has managed to recreate yet.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Properly, yeah, for sure. And then you have, I mean mean even look at instagram right now has decided not to be pictures anymore it's tiktok 2.0 yeah it's like reels i hate instagram right now is the worst they're like tiktok and that and we'll mix it together pictures don't do good here do this instead and you get to watch we've just got shitty fucking reels and then the pay on those the reels pay is the worst pay you up oh you got a million views here's 20 bucks 11 million views for 1200 youtube money if you got 11 million views that's like what uh a hundred grand yeah it's like a hundred grand yeah
Starting point is 00:23:57 depending on how many ads you run the most annoying shit about this like instagram tiktok real shit is now i see a lot of companies, like, you know who the fuck you are. They will now take a photo, turn that photo into a video, and post the photo. So it's like a four-second long photo. So it shows up for real. I fucking hate it. I hate it so goddamn much.
Starting point is 00:24:19 It does work. That's literally why they're doing it is because it fucking works. And they're like, okay, well. And they're trying to push the real algorithm, so it's gonna it's gonna catch once they get enough you know content out there eventually the algorithm is gonna pick it up and say we're gonna take a photo platform turn it into tiktok poorly and not reward anybody for it i will say reels if you're not shadowban or it's a crazy watching like savs reels on how those work is she's like hey the video is still growing because when that
Starting point is 00:24:45 one video would do the fart one was like 200 000 yeah she's like oh it's still growing on instagram that was gonna we knew that was gonna be the lowest platform for it that 900 000 it you know you post a reel or a video two days it usually disappears it peers out yeah if you're not shadow banned and you have like just like what she does where it's that half half i've showed you guys like you get to see how the split is on followers versus non-followers that uh look at your stuff ours i guarantee clean you probably are the same because you post gun stuff i post the thing is my instagram like i post maybe like once a month i'm really bad at instagram i just like hey i got a new gun or here's me shooting a gun it's like that's it like
Starting point is 00:25:24 yeah it's just i don't really take it that seriously but you get like brandon and those guys and you just get to see this and it's fucking mine it's a sliver where it's like hey here's your literally two percent non-followers will see it hardly gets out there yeah so then half your followers don't get fight yeah that happens a lot too yeah sav half half non-followers will follow she's like's like, yeah, if I do a hashtag, it will bring in like 20,000 more eyes onto it. I'm like, if I do a hashtag, it'll be like 100 people seeing this from the hashtag.
Starting point is 00:25:53 It's like they obviously have certain people listed, like you said, a shadow ban, where it's just like, oh, this person, we don't want a lot of people seeing this, so we're going to kind of pull them out of the algorithm. And I've dealt with that with Spotify in the past. I actually owned one of the biggest Lo-Fi playlists. I think I told you guys about this, but for the viewers who don't know what I'm talking
Starting point is 00:26:12 about, it was called Lo-Fi Chill Hop. And I listened to it all the time on Twitch and I would get emails from producers who were like, hey, I found your playlist. I could get some promotion. And I didn't charge them anything. I'd be like, hey, if I like your music because I listen to this for myself and my viewers, I'll put you on my track. Literally why I started doing Batty Radio.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah. Straight up Spotify custom playlist. Yeah. Same thing. It's awesome. And so I remember this record label wanted to buy my playlist off me when it was at 130,000 followers. They offered me like 40K and I told them, no, I'm good because like it felt really good
Starting point is 00:26:40 knowing that I could give producers free promotion and literally give these guys careers. Like I've actually gotten lo-fi producers like they're legitimately like three four hundred thousand like monthly listeners now um and they started off of my playlist and after i refused this record they're like no i'm not gonna sell out to you like i like doing this because it makes me feel good and i like helping people made him hangry oh yeah no these guys got fucking pissed and like they were like emailing me like you need to sell to us this now I'm like no like fuck you like I'm not giving you my playlist And so they started making all these bot accounts and reporting the playlist
Starting point is 00:27:10 Yeah And then what it would do whenever or what you can literally a non verified account can report any playlist and say oh This is sexual or racist or blah blah blah it removes the image the cover The cover image the description and the title Completely and it just deletes it all. So when you see your follower playlist, it just shows up as a blank space. And you don't know what it is. And what that did, after enough time,
Starting point is 00:27:32 completely unplugged me from the algorithm. I would grow three to five hundred followers a day on that playlist without promoting it at all. It just grew on its own. The algorithm took it and just fucking skyrocketed it. And I got fucking sick of dealing with it because I'm like fuck these fuckers just keep reporting me and Spotify just isn't doing shit I eventually
Starting point is 00:27:49 gave it to a high school friend of mine who happened to be a lo-fi producer I'm like here take my playlist use it to make a label and he has a label now it's called Kyoto sound which is great and he makes like cool lo-fi tracks and stuff but what's funny is like since I gave him the playlist it's been stuck at 138,000 followers and has not like gone over 140k in like two or three years just because it's completely out of the algorithm and a lot of companies have these back end doors where they can be like oh let's just pull this out let's pull this out he can't get in this algorithm here and like they do this on purpose because like let's be honest a lot of people are fucking shady in these corporate businesses they do things to line their pockets yeah i don't know what you're talking about. FanDuel Casino's exclusive live dealer studio has your chance at the number one feeling,
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Starting point is 00:28:58 nice love them they're people too yeah man it's just it's it's fucked up and i mean i i feel like especially after covid like a lot of people kind of woke up to a lot of like oh fuck people aren't actually looking out for me oh these corporations don't give a fuck about me oh the government doesn't really care about me either and like people are like hmm this shit smells like shit so crazy man yeah yay twitch dude going to the the way and twitch is kind of taking shitty which is kind of taking that route as well I mean, but the thing is though I've never felt like I have ever been like shadowban on twitch that even though I do gun stuff I you know very open about my political beliefs
Starting point is 00:29:36 I'm not a political streamer, but like I like to let people know like look if you watch me I am influencing you whether you think it or not if you choose to spend time watching my stream and you spend time here You are going to get influenced by me and I let them know like hey This is what I think about this what I think about this Just so that you know who the fuck I am So you know who you're spending your time and attention to because when you pay attention to someone that is Currency your time is currency your focus your time is your most So like I like to be very open about who I am so that people know who they're paying their attention to.
Starting point is 00:30:07 And I've alienated a lot of people from my content just because I don't know if I agree with them. Like I don't care, but if you can disagree with me and still hang out and watch my stream, like I have a lot of respect for that because that goes to show that- Crazy concept. I know right? Disagreeing with somebody and still maintaining friendships? Weird! Fucking weird!
Starting point is 00:30:24 You need to agree with me or fuck you, bro. Yeah. No, it's actually fucking wild. But, um, Twitch, I've never felt has, like, shadowbanned me or anything like that. Like, they're doing good. Like, they're very fair. Like, they're very fair, but it's just like, what they're...
Starting point is 00:30:38 I mean, fair... Okay, hold on. I'll say fair in terms of, like, they haven't shadow banned me. They haven't, like, stunted my growth or anything like that. Because I get a lot of viewers from Recommended. I get a lot of viewers. I can see my statistics. Like, I know I'm getting natural traffic to my stream.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And that's good. And I know that hasn't been hindered at all. But what's going on with the subsplits and, like, all this other shit. And, like, not really. Like, they're like, we care about creators. But, like, they do things they don't care about creators it's like the whole reason the sub thing even came up was because like the largest user poll on twitch is like there's like forums basically where you can vote or be like hey we need an answer to this or why isn't this happening we want changes to the
Starting point is 00:31:18 platform this way where they say they're listening to people and they'll make changes based on these votes and there's like 22 000 fucking people on the platform mostly partners were like hey we need to answer this like this subsplit thing you twitch has the lowest subs revenue split of any platform it's 50 50 youtube 70 30 fan house 80 20 fans lee is like 90 10 only fans 80 20 uh patreon is 88 to 95 on the user side that's imagine that's like taking a contract from okay a lot of people if you just get into the business or you're just getting fame or fighting or music it doesn't fucking matter when you have shady um agents shady businesses that's what they look for is the dudes that don't look at the contract the verbiage is hidden on how they say shit i've seen this a lot and when you get these contracts
Starting point is 00:32:12 they go as i always say it's like 10 i was like you can get fucked if you're getting more than 10 from me as an agent unless you're going above and beyond and you're doing fucking content and you're setting shit up then i'll be like like, okay, let's like 15, 20. Yeah. I will never do it. I've done 18 once. I will never do it again. No.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And that's why you're like, holy shit. But now think about that. These people are just twitches. Hey, you get 50, 50. You do all the fucking work. Hey, clean. You get 70, 30. You get 70, 30 after you put in this bunch of work.
Starting point is 00:32:44 But it's 30 still a fucking shit that's a lot that's a lot and then on top of that it's like hey guys you want to come to twitchcon they're they're not even fucking flying their big streamers out for the shit or they're making them pay for the reason why people even go to twitchcon is because of the streamers they don't want to talk to twitch executives they don't want to talk to twitch staff they want to see the fucking creators that they watch every single day and maybe shake their hand and be like hey i love your content thanks for being there and let me watch your stuff and whatever and so that i can say hey thank you for taking the time to watch my content and support me man it's great to see you like you know stuff like that put a face to a name
Starting point is 00:33:21 and name your face yeah absolutely for sure um they'll come at him. Yeah, give him a come shot Shaking babies, she's just called these guys. She's just called these cummies now. Yeah, you just take off a plane What's gonna take you to do a commie? I know I'm not doing come on. Do you want to do a commie? I'm not gonna do a three commies. I really don't really don't want to like it shit comes from China There's probably some like color dyes in there that give you autism and like fucking Asperger's like I'm not gonna fucking I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna fuck my Joe is actually the real MVP of today's episode. Hey, guys. Head over to BuggerBranding.com.
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Starting point is 00:34:31 all the research. No, he's not. It's going to charity. Of course, he's going to charity of this year. So go and check one out before they're gone from the store. But yeah, but Twitch is just dropping the ball so hard. And everybody's been looking for this like 70 30 split or like an answer to it. Because even worse than the 70-30 split, it was an unspoken thing. We weren't allowed to tell people we had a 70-30 split. Yeah, they always told us to kind of keep it on the table. Don't tell people like, you know, this is something that.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I just found out this today from both of you. Yeah, when I got my partner or my partner manager. Yeah, your rep. Yeah, your rep. Yeah, my rep. He basically told me like, hey, like, here's something that you can work for. But like, this is only something that we tell people internally. Like, we didn't have to sign an NDA, but just like, hey, like, don't talk about this salary. It's literally a salary.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Don't share your salaries. Always show your fucking salary. You're only helping your corporation and fucking all of your friends and you. Yeah. But yeah, they said don't tell this. So like everybody's like the numbers of what you had to do have always kind of been like, well, it's 500 for 60 days, 90 days
Starting point is 00:35:36 maybe. And they were like baiting people. And like if you ever applied for and didn't get it, they'd be like, yeah, we don't ever do that for anybody. Well, I was going to say the only way that you ever get it is through your partner rep you never got it there's no official way to apply for it no there was now so towards the end there was there was i didn't apply through the partner support oh because there's literally a revenue sub split category interesting i didn't know that it was uh like so a little after i got it because i i ended up
Starting point is 00:36:03 getting a partner rep and he he brought it to me i was like this fucking this is amazing because i was doing really well yeah yeah amazing he's actually probably going to come out soon he like he always keeps seeing our stories he's like he saw us like with the miniguns and stuff at the range and he's like he's like bro you guys just do that and i'm like yeah that's kind of normal for us like we'll have a helicopter fly in and like shoot miniguns and it's like it's normal for us. He was telling me we've both been talking to him trying to get him to come out. Yeah, he wants to. He wants to really bad. He's actually
Starting point is 00:36:29 he really wants to do like some kind of like paintball airsoft event or something like that, which would be super cool. Just use fucking let's get what are they called? What are they called? The CO2 cartridge fucking rounds. Sim munitions. I mean, we could probably do this at the ranch. That would be fun. Like do like a twitch.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah, you've been shot with No, I don't know if some gamers would be down to do sim runs though cuz they get them what's Yeah, exactly yeah, they'd be fucking perfect they'd be done have you seen how fast clean can shoot I want to see somebody get peppered by this mojo. That dude went eight times before he goes, ah! You get to see the difference between, it's like, okay, I'm going to shoot, and video game man, I need you to run out. I'll provide covering fire. Boom, boom, boom, boom. They're just going to stay behind the tree.
Starting point is 00:37:15 No, they're just going to follow. They're just going to give those rounds and whiz by like, nah. Nah, this is a safe tree. I'm going to stay my ass right here. Bro, back last time I ran SimRounds, a buddy of mine, best SimRound fucking story, holy shit. We had a bunch of new guys come into the scout platoon,
Starting point is 00:37:33 and we had the guy running the drill. His name was Kidder, amazing fucking dude. And he was teaching new guys how to pie a corner properly because they were fucking it up. So he would just sit there with a Cimarron pistol. And first part of their body, he saw he would just pepper the fuck out of them. After, you know, you were done, you would clear your gun. Then you turn everything in.
Starting point is 00:37:55 This one dude went to turn in a fully loaded round of the chamber pistol. Here you go. Pointed at him. Finger on the fucking tree. Here you go. So, of course, he fucking chews him out. Tells him, you know, figure the fuck out. Come back. Fuck yourself. Comes out. Drops the mag fucking here you go So of course he fucking chews mouth tells me oh, you know figure the fuck out come back fuck yourself comes out Drop the mags. Oh, you go handsome
Starting point is 00:38:11 This dude threw him to the ground and just started racking every rep put the mag in racked every round into his Story I will live on in my brain forever. I've met some fucking dumbass people in the military straight up. I'm like, why do you have a fucking gun and why did we approve? How do you get past training? We called them drivers. You're like, okay, so we'll take that. Here's some keys. Here's the key
Starting point is 00:38:39 to the padlock. You're gonna drive and sit in that car. Okay, roger that fuck man jesus fucking christ dude that's crazy twitch twitch sucks because you got like they've been fucking up on a whole bunch it's also long beach griffey's uh video he just did about that because you got like oh my god that person had a word slip Fucking banned for life you you were fucking on camera seven days Here's shit on Twitch episode.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Here's shit on Twitch round two. So a chick got caught fucking live on stream. She was drunk the first time apparently, was what she said. And you could see her just kind of wiggling. And if you looked past her, there was like a glass door. You could see this dude's leg like this. Dude, there was the reflection in the glass door. The glass door.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Of just her getting railed the fuck out. And it's like, like okay so she got banned seven days for blatantly fucking on stream live gaming or talking and chatting unbanned after seven days comes back does it again does it again all while her growth went from three to four hundred followers she's at 15,000 followers now see like twitch just really needs to draw the fucking line cuz spray well and that's it they'll never fucking do that cuz it's like girl this sprayed fucking vodka in cat's face throwing cats then you have the flip side where
Starting point is 00:40:18 it's like some dude can barely do something it's like instant banhammer and then flip side now is fucking oh gambling is really bad we can't show this to children hey let's let's pull up any of the twitch girls and let's watch some ear licking for two hours this is such a fucking
Starting point is 00:40:37 tricky thing like I don't give a fuck that people are doing like bathtub and hot sauce make your money the ear licking ASMR. Like I've literally sat down and watched it. Just for science, right? Absolutely. I hate ASMR.
Starting point is 00:40:53 So God, it makes me cringe. I hate it. But the way it's portrayed, it's very sexual. It's literally a blow job. It's very sexual. I was blown away. Like I have no issues with ASMR in general. I have no issues with girls dressing the way they fucking do on the platform.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Go for it. I can wear a tank top. You can too. I don't give a fuck. But this blatant over-sexualization is wild. It's softcore porn in some cases. That's the thing. It's edging. You're like, oh, I can almost see a n cases. Oh well. That's the thing. It's just it's like edging like you're like
Starting point is 00:41:25 Oh, I can almost see a nip And that's what people like because it's like you can't see the whole thing Teenage angst there's actually this I kept getting this one like a hot tub streamer recommended to me and every time I Like who the fuck is this I keep getting everybody. I'll check him out click on it. Nothing's on stream She's literally standing off camera the entire time Then she like will get on camera for like five minutes and go off camera again And then like that's the whole thing and it's just like that's what people want cuz they're just waiting for like let me see you in a bikini like
Starting point is 00:41:54 Would have been like and then he like when he comes onto the camera like This took I'm like, huh, this took a different turn. Can we just watch it and do it? Hot tub streamers are like jacked, just lifting weights. It's so weird that Twitch is okay with such an over-sexualization of stuff. Because it's not a gaming platform anymore. It's really not. It's a live streaming platform now. So it started as games.
Starting point is 00:42:22 It was always about gamers. And now you have the just chatting. You have the hot tub stuff you got like the gambling it's like it's it's just live streaming now it's just whatever you can stream within the terms of service that's allowable yeah that's wrong we don't know what the fucking terms of service are or what's allowable well that's the thing it's because they're they're always i don't know why the fuck they do this and like a lot of people are so confused like this girl literally getting obviously fucked on stream like that should not happen ever Everly like it that should be come back from that you shouldn't that's the thing like you fucking should it
Starting point is 00:42:52 But for whatever reason they're just like ah you know It's fine. Well three-day ban no big deal somebody fucking like a wheel spin. They just walk up to like Seven-day ban okay okay we're good next person it makes me wonder if they're like doing this on purpose to just piss people off or if there is somebody who's like oh yeah it's fine you know it's no big deal and then somebody like you know
Starting point is 00:43:16 like some fucking dude says like a racial slur who isn't even the streamer on the stream and then they get banned for it like i that's like this happened with asmongold he was playing mmo some dude like said the n word or some shit and he like in his stream said it not him to be very clear there's like another person in the game that he was playing um and he like rolled his eyes and like muted the dude and that was it
Starting point is 00:43:38 but twitch banned him for a day because he didn't like condemn him for it and they're like oh you should have said something you should have been like racism is bad blah blah blah blah but it's just like why address it yeah like why exactly why address it just it's like oh fucking some other dude who'd say something on the internet that he would never say in real life because he's a fucking pussy because that's how most gamers let me give him a let me give him a platform now and then address that name and everything now everyone knows yeah exactly yeah exactly, exactly. We shouldn't be putting this shit on a pedestal. I can understand wanting to make an example of people. I get that.
Starting point is 00:44:10 But at the end of the day, it's like if he wasn't focusing on it and making that the narrative for his content, he should never have got a ban for that. But then you have other people who do the same fucking thing, but way worse, and they don't get banned.
Starting point is 00:44:21 That's what happens. It's very double-sided. It's very two-faced. And that's what a lot of content creators want is we want definitive rules. Like if you do this. Can we do this or not? Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Can we do this or not? If I do this, will I get banned? And it's just like, there is a lot of favoritism and shit going on. And like, there is even huge streamers who obviously bring a lot of money to the platform that have obviously broken TOS, that have other people who aren't as large
Starting point is 00:44:44 got straight up banned for it, but they don't because of who they are and the connections that they have at Twitch. And it's a lot of, a lot of the world is it's just who, you know, who, you know, and how much money you bring in. Exactly. Like fucking, uh, Gasly Maxwell, she got sentenced to fucking 20 years for child trafficking. Who's your fucking clients? Oh, guess what? Doesn't fucking matter because they're all fucking politicians and rich people that nobody's going to figure out who the fuck they are Because it's who they know. Yeah, that's the world. It's great Hi, everyone
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Starting point is 00:47:46 No, it's a strawberry jelly. But for real, go check them out there. They're fantastic. They're super comfortable. Gambling on Twitch. Which I don't think, I was like, gambling is a fucking... It's actually not banned.
Starting point is 00:47:57 It's only websites that are not registered through the US. So you can still gamble on Twitch. You can roll slots as long as it's registered in the US and it's US based. So, for those of you, it's registered in the US and US based so bird isn't you know again? And not in the twitch loop recently there has been a big scandal on Twitch There's a group of larger streamers from different frame groups whatever. This is it's like it's like it's a click of streamers
Starting point is 00:48:18 Yeah, click of streamers and and one of them Has been scamming his viewers, lying to his friends, and just cheating money out of people. Bro, I was surprised by the number. Over $300,000. I was thinking like five grand, ten grand until I read that. I was like, dude. I was like, how the fuck does this do? Slicker, right?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Yeah. Can I squeeze this and just like pop it in your mouth? Please don't. Please. Just on his face. I don't. Please. Just on his face. I don't want you to bust on my face. I'm sorry. You don't want some cummies?
Starting point is 00:48:50 No, I don't. I don't want your jello cummies on my face, homie. But this dude has been doing this stuff for $300,000. And this clique of popular streamers decided they're going to either go on strike later in December when it's like big ad money time for twitch or we're gonna ban gambling and a lot of these streamers really rallied behind this ban gambling thing and this is probably the fastest twitch has ever it's really true I've never seen them like be like oh fuck it was like a week and a half maybe less than that which
Starting point is 00:49:21 came out put a letter out being like hey we're gonna ban gambling asterisks little star kind of and then they go on to say well we're gonna ban gambling if it's not registered in the u.s if it's not legal in this part or if that website's not technically allowed because a lot of streamers were using these pseudo shady gambling websites and let's be real gambling's bad don't fucking waste your money. It's stupid, but people do it and they were doing it to lots of viewers And some of these people were doing it using websites or being sponsored by these gambling websites to stream it Where they weren't really losing money? Obviously some people were losing lots of money like yeah, but But I mean it's it's it's like exception. I was gonna say it's like it's it's like it's still real money
Starting point is 00:50:04 But it's like because of them getting paid by the sponsor of the gambling website Anything that the loss is actually just gonna get reimbursed in the first place. They're just doing it for the views Yes and then there are also another flip side the other flip side of that is the Websites can then control the winning chances of a streamer so then that streamer has a higher chance now What's that do that influences other people? To think they can win more money when they're good. Yeah, I heard that too both like look you're like I told you my neck was all fucked up Pop your back
Starting point is 00:50:35 I'll shoot you with one of those things Like this and then you hold it yeah But but yeah they get that, and that puts in people's heads. It's like, oh man, you win a lot on this website because they're watching their favorite streamer,
Starting point is 00:50:52 gambler, whatever, win, and it's like, no, no. No, the house always wins. Yeah, no, they do. Just at this moment,
Starting point is 00:50:59 that guy is losing. But he's a part of the house, though, because he's getting paid by them. Exactly. That's the whole point. So these big Twitch streamers rallied behind, you know, bad get it off twitch was to an extent. Yeah, gambling's fucking battery So twitch came out with a big press release saying yeah, we're gonna ban gambling and asterisks not all the websites just some websites
Starting point is 00:51:18 meanwhile like sports betting and all this shit is still like slots like you can still gamble on twitch as long as it's just a Certain website it was wild they banned like a handful of websites and all these streamers like we defeated gambling on twitch like motherfucker you did nothing oh there's a high five twitter people we win meanwhile i hate people so Meanwhile, none of them are trying to get other streamers a higher subsplit. None of them are trying to figure out why Twitch is drowning their viewers in ads. None of them. Justice Warriors is what we call it. Oh, my God, dude. It was painful.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And all of this is just because one dude who got a bunch of leaks of him scamming people. And that's why people wanted gambling bad. Because of one person's gambling addiction of him fucking Other people over not because they cared about the platform because they cared about the viewers It's because one of their friends looked bad And they wanted to save face and they decided let's rally to ban gambling because gambling addiction is bad and blah blah blah blah blah It's like now you just y'all that was your boy, and you're just trying to cover his ass And I will say trainer was cracking me though fuck
Starting point is 00:52:21 It's funny, bro. He's your train has me To the next shit storm I know I got caught gambling and Then all of his friends rallied about how gambling is bad and we gonna stop it and then train comes out and just ruins people Dude train was train was Jesus Christ walking in and watching Train is a lot of gambling on stream. Also. I will say He talks non-stop about you can't win like this. This isn't real Transparent he's very transparent and open about a lot of it. He doesn't really at least this is my perception He doesn't seem like he's trying to deceive people. Yes. He's trying he's very open about it And this released the man this opened up a whole new fucking can of worms
Starting point is 00:53:13 Yep, the crew of some of the biggest dreams on Twitch Like hiding sexual assault allegations sexual harassment allegations, whatever the fuck it was I've heard 18 million different things and that came out one of those guys ms ms kiff just admitted to yeah there was a discord call that was leaked uh i was actually playing with my guild in this mmo that i've been in and they were talking to me about it and they gave me the tldr but basically like that this dude you are so 27 they gave me the gdlr i'm like oh yeah that's what that means. I have an old man like, what's clean fucking saying? But essentially
Starting point is 00:53:49 there was a Discord call that was leaked and I think it was like Train and Mizkif, Asmongold and XQC and somebody else, I don't know. I think it was those four. I didn't watch it. Somebody just told me so it's kind of hearsay. Apparently
Starting point is 00:54:04 Mizkif was like, oh, this guy who's also addicted to gambling basically great buddy who is you know like some girl who's like on roofies or was passed out adriana or something just in case grape it yeah but grape grape but grape. Wait, not that way. Grape. Grapefruit. Grapefruit is somebody. But apparently some streamer who was best friends with Miz, Miz Kiff, assaulted in some way this other streamer, this chick who was passed out or on drugs
Starting point is 00:54:37 or roofied or whatever the fuck it was. Dude, it's a mess of who said, who said, you know. He said she said, yeah. And then Miz tried to cover it up being like, eh, it's not that big of a deal. It's a mess of who said who said you know he said yeah, and And then Miz tried to cover it up being like it's not that big of a deal I yeah, you know baddie over here. Just great new people. No, it's not a big deal. It's okay We're just gonna cover up from no. I'm just being very clear a lot of cameras. I know it's sarcasm I'm being totally sarcastic. It was me
Starting point is 00:55:05 It was me I did it okay, but like it's just like it's to me like okay Like I would I would help my friends out with fucked up stuff But if my friend fucked up or if I fucked up and did something really bad I would want to be called out for him you like hey you fuck kind of gotta own your own shit exactly drop the ball That who just fucking came out with that who's the guy that played Punisher? John dropped the ball that uh who just fucking came out with that uh who's the guy that played punisher john berthold berthold him and then uh he just interviewed transformers shiloh bluff and shiloh bluff oh yeah that is such a good i don't know if you guys listen to admitting too he's like yeah i fucked up like blah blah blah and john was like yeah and i'm holding you accountable yeah they fucking had a good discussion on that podcast and it it's fucking good it's how shit it's like a dude
Starting point is 00:55:49 admitting to what he did he knows his faults and you want to learn from them and then the good friend is like hey man like that's why you're here i'm gonna keep you accountable i'm gonna call you out on your shit and let you know like hey i think you're fucking up and i'm gonna be honest with you because i care about you not that all i care about you let's pretend none of this happened here it's sweeping over the rug sweep man this is great would you put that there that will never come out to fuck us over yeah but the thing is is when that happens all that does is just expose like it's bad yeah no it all it does is like and that's again this is one of the reasons why i'm so transparent about myself online is because i never want to be caught like, Hey, look at cleans fucking
Starting point is 00:56:26 skeletons because I show you my skeletons. I'd let you look at them all the fucking time. And my skeletons really aren't that bad because like I said, like I'm very unapologetically myself and I have nothing to hide from you guys. But some people aren't like that. A lot of people are very deceptive and they want to maintain a persona, especially online because they want to make sure that people see them a certain type of way. They only show them this much of their personality,
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Starting point is 00:57:10 With all of the mysteries that life has to offer, a few certainties can really go a long way. Subscribe today for the peace of mind you've been searching for. Public Mobile, different is calling. And that's just like celebrities are like that, politicians are like that, anybody who is seen in the public's just like celebrities are like that politicians are like that anybody who is seen in the public image is like that not everyone but you know i just i try and do my best
Starting point is 00:57:31 to not be a part of that category because i want to be transparent yeah you're the same way transparent with everything i'm doing how i feel everything because all that ends up happening is what's going on right now like oh so and so tried to cover up allegations Oh fuck That's not a look good at that doesn't look good at all Fuckers are coming out being like I knew about it. Fuck this guy's like bro. You knew about it Why do you fucking say that? That's because people do things for clout when they realize oh fuck there's a mob out there chase. Yeah, fuck that guy Like you know, here's the torches and big Hashtag I helped wait wait which part did you help it's fucking absurd man and now all these massive streamers are at each other's throats they're all
Starting point is 00:58:14 like here are some dms where this guy said the n-word and we're leaking it now in 2017 it's like who cares at each other's fucking throats just trying to be like who can cancel who faster God it was that's that's what happens though when you're part of that cancel culture bullshit. It's literally cannibalism They cannibalize themselves they can't oblige themselves their money It's uh it's like what's that one space movie with the little blue guys not going and they just fucking like rip them apart I'm trying to remember what that movie is you know what I'm talking about though right the little cute blue aliens and they cannibalize the weak one Wait, what is that? Yeah? No fuck that movie is. You know what I'm talking about though, right? The little cute blue aliens and they cannibalize the weak one Wait, what is that? Yeah, no fuck. I know you guys know what I'm talking about It's it's like some fucking cool like funny space movie. It was really dorky
Starting point is 00:58:53 It's like something of the galaxy or some shit. I think Was it no the hitchhiker guide that might wait hitchhiker I think that actually check your guide of the Alex I've seen it once I've known it might be that but you guys know what scene I'm talking about though They're like, oh look at the cute little blue. He's like limping and the other ones like oh, they're gonna help him They rip them apart. That's fucking cancel culture. That's like if you yeah Yeah, if you yeah, yeah that to it I mean
Starting point is 00:59:20 It's just like as soon as you start to abide by those rules like you are also could be a victim of those same very people like you have to be very careful and like it's it's honestly it's scary like uh the worst i've ever tried to been canceled was the like tarkov community when the like oh yeah all that other happened and like i was open about i was honest i was like yeah i up like you know i trusted the wrong people and listened to the wrong people and made the wrong choice and like'm like, my fucking bad. And I've reconciled with that. And I've made amends with the people that I fucked over.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Yeah. And we're on good terms now. Yeah. And like, you know, it's fucking, I don't know. It's, it's weird. If you guys want to know about that, I think it was actually the first podcast. I talked about it on the first podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Yeah. We brought it up. It was like episode 11 or some shit. Oh man. This is, oh fucking, we forgot to say this is gonna be the last episode We film here is it are we sure 100% I've it done this weekend We have a studio guys. It's actually right next to cleans house. It's kind of cool. We're neighbors. Yeah, we're neighbors now I was like, I think it's by I think I text you guys
Starting point is 01:00:17 I was like, I think the new studios right by Colleen's house. I was like I haven't been here I was like, I think he's in this general air. No, it's literally like we check the maps It's like a block away. Oh shit. It's literally like coming shots right there. Oh, that's fucking dough. Have you seen it? I saw some On Eli's Instagram my Instagram we've leaked a couple actually the unsub Instagram We've leaked a couple little photos of the the new set getting built. It's not 100% there yet, but um Yeah, almost. It's cool. It's so close. I cannot wait to move some of my dragons over I know random random thing did you guys see them millions of moths or butterflies?
Starting point is 01:00:56 monarch butter Is this no dude? Have you know have you drove the back drive Spring Branch right now? If you want to see fucking chaos, it is the locust. Oh, I'm so sorry. They start in New England. I used to see the beginning of it up in New England and they go from New England all the way down to Mexico.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I didn't realize we're like right in that path now. That's crazy. I was driving out. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? There's so many. I'm like, what's going on? You walk out and one's there and it's like, we fucking like there's so many. I'm like what you like walk out and ones there It's like we will blot out the sun Yeah, that's fucking a wild I was like what the fuck is all over because I took the poor shot on No, that was like ah it's a nice day. I was like no no no no no no no no no no no
Starting point is 01:01:43 I just be like it's like worse than rain dude and the grill No, you fucking monarchs Fuck you bugs, but spring branch hold when you're out in those country roads, bro. It is Is it crazy? Oh it is insanity. I left my house today, so I haven't seen the butter There wasn't actually too many around here, but if you go like on the highway near the H-E-B There's they're fucking everywhere really I can't wait to leave and just drive over butterflies It is bad II think of just it's like wall you're just hitting walls of monarch yeah Yeah, oh you think it big oh yeah, they're like this big no shit. I don't know why the fuck they don't fly higher
Starting point is 01:02:24 I'm like nah Oh, yeah, they're like this big. No shit. I don't know why the fuck they don't fly higher. I'd be like, nah. Let's just go like five feet higher and not get decimated by everything. But they're just like, nah, bro, let's fly next to the highways. This is a good trail zone. And you just kill all of them. Oh, those little fucks. You can go out and see my car. It's just splattered right now.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I can't wait. I'm excited. There's a lot of them. It is a fucking metric shit ton. I'm't wait. I'm excited. There's a lot of them. It is a fucking metric shit ton. I'm like, oh, clean. What fucking MMO? I've been reading. I hate when I go online. Yeah, more online.
Starting point is 01:02:54 No, life in a game like mother. I watch. I was watching you play and I was like, oh, could this be the one? I was like, no, I will not do it. It's kind of sick, though, because it's like full loop PvP like so for example like the economy is really cool And there's no fast traveling You can go to one side of the map go to a vendor that has specific items
Starting point is 01:03:14 You can take them ferry them across the map assuming you don't die and sell them for like four times the price So it's literally like Silk Road like you can oh my god Dude like the economy is so complex like I got lost in fishing for three days because I was like oh fishing whatever Dude this fishing game is the fishing minigame of this MMO is one of the most complicated I've ever seen you can fish the depth You can fish during certain times of the day using different size hooks and bait that will get you different types of fish that are worth more so that's see these are okay The marketing thing just discussed i was just
Starting point is 01:03:48 reading a story about an everquest this is og this is 99 in 2000 i didn't realize a lot of those peoples that found the exploits to make money and buy and sell stuff from vendors and the markups they just hire a lot of those mmo studios just picked all those guys up and keep them employed. This is since 99. So apparently during this, there was this quest, an EverQuest, where it was like, okay, if you go across, you ride the boat, you do this, you can buy stuff, and then you have to ferry it across, trade it for something else, and then the final guy gives you money for it. They found a network chain.
Starting point is 01:04:25 They built a guild for it, and the quest was fucking easy, and they and they're like oh we can make a shit ton of money on this it was they were running the operation for two months before eki was like yo hold the fuck on how you guys this rich like you guys are really fucking rich compared to everyone else and like yeah and then they looked and it was like fucking 60 people running this operation yeah it's like a big trade route bro and then they looked and it was like fucking 60 people running this operation yeah it's like a big trade route bro and then they were like oh we gotta and they just like everyone logged on one day and it was like this quest is gone they just fucking canned it and they were like oh because everquest we've discussed it there was 16 000 quests never discovered during its original time because there was 16 000 16 000 quests never discovered an OG because this is a
Starting point is 01:05:08 Predates the internet so everyone's just like it's always word of mouth Yeah, so that's that's what mortal online is too at the same way So you normally like with Elden Ring like there's like soul farm guides There was like build guides like they get it ruined all the discovery because people just watch these YouTube videos and run to the sword Get the moon veil or whatever Yeah, fuck but in this like people like don't want to share shit like there's alchemists who have potions that they only make for their Guilds oh, that's fuck. There's there's four four types of fish that have still yet to be caught in this game There are like many many many secrets that players keep closely guarded to themselves, and they don't want to fucking share with anybody
Starting point is 01:05:41 You don't that's all it's all bit clean dude. It's fucking fun. Okay. I'll try it I'm gonna try it. It's it's it's like it's fucking cool, and there's so many different ways to play So if you want to be a mage for example, I do like we got one thing we do So one thing So one thing is like my wizard hat one you can So if you want to be a mage like it's actually a fuck ton of work like one of the books to become like a necromancer Yeah, six thousand gold, which is like a lot of fucking gold. Yeah Real life gold. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 01:06:13 You're in real life quest you're like oh man this game sucks Six thousand pieces of Roman gold But no it's cool. I've actually like taken the deep end in that MMO and like I have a guild now and We're we're growing and it's just it's a lot of fun, dude It's a really cool game and it's full loop PvP. So you can fucking kill anybody anywhere take all their shit You take all their shit, dude. I miss it's fucking cool, bro It's like it's a it's a true sandbox in this VoIP So did you meet like all these interesting characters and like all these random people like it's it's fucking really
Starting point is 01:06:47 Clean bro Final Fantasy 11, I mean it was like EQ and Final Fantasy 11, and I remember What was that? Oh the fuck it was a level restricted patch Prometheus I think or something it was everything reset to 30 for this one raid So you now everyone's going back in gear and getting the best level 30 items It was a hawker knife and I was like oh I know that exact spawn pattern to a tee of how that guy and those hawker knives were like $2,000 I Controlled the entire fucking market on that server. That's Midgar's or I was like
Starting point is 01:07:26 Oh, I can fucking go here. I know exactly their spawn pattern where they were just getting this one I went from like 2002 I had him selling for 60k apiece and I had a metric shit ton of those bitches I just Every five minutes and then it was a 30 minutes and then a six hour window and I just turn on on those winners clock Kill the placeholder. Yeah, did people do that in the same game to there's time. So there's world bosses Yeah, there's world. Yes. There's world bosses doing the dungeons are actually so fucking sick Like I just did this necromancer dungeon, which is their newest one and like the level design of these dungeons are fucking There's literally a part in this dungeon where it's an Indiana Jones fucking like in this room. No, no, no
Starting point is 01:08:03 It's an individual it's an invisible visible fucking invisible bridge. No, no, no, it's an individual, it's an invisible bridge. And it took people a week to figure out the pattern to get across it. And you have to find the pattern and you gotta work as a team. One person has to be the anchor, then you follow up and you have to go through.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Dude, it's fucking insane. And if you fall at the bottom of the pit, there's actually a way to get into the pit. And so there's players who would actually sit there during the first week of the dungeon. People would fall. They drop their loot. They take their shit and fucking leave. So you can literally go down there and collect corpses.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Like, the game is actually insane. A corpse collector. Dude, the bosses are on timers and people do the same shit. They got the bosses on timers and they build, like, houses and stuff right next to them. And so, oh, boss is here. And they'll, like, go to their house, kill the boss. You can build houses? Yeah, you can build strongholds, houses, and you can upgrade them.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Eventually, they're going to have sieging. So so you're gonna be able to raid players houses and bases There's gonna be territory control so you're literally gonna be able to own cities and territory and blacklist people from entering your city So if you go to that city the guards will just fucking kill you you can't go this is ever quest No, it's literally ever quest 2 and they're about to go on UE 5 in like 3 to 4 months I see this is what I've missed like I will always fangirl i'm gonna throw up reading these old eq stories this last couple of days because on the fires of heaven shout out to all the fire of heaven bro the amount of times you've talked about these fires of heaven's cunts like i still go on their forums that's it's so rare but like listening to the old stories where it's like oh man remember there was no maps back in the day
Starting point is 01:09:25 and it was just like well so that's running through fucking it was like oh stay on the roads kind of but then people were like no those roads it's a random dangerous road bro and it would be like oh man this is such a beautiful and you didn't realize oh i worship the wrong fucking god for this neighborhood so it's like man and a rook so gangster in the guards he's like boom he just one shot you your corpse everything stays there in that guards like I protect this corpse now Yep, so you're like level two and you're like well Yeah, and like the map in that game is huge it takes like three hours on horseback to get from like one side Well, maybe not like ever quest. It's a huge well the thing is it's only one continent
Starting point is 01:10:05 Now there's four more continents coming out. Oh, it's like ever dude It's it's so right now that the current content takes about an hour no boarding no porting at all You can't the only fast travel that you can do so the only fast the only no there's no boats yet But they're gonna add that wizards. Yeah, you can be a mage there fast travel as a wizard Can you do that's the magic circle bullshit actually yes, so you? specific areas You can kind of go wherever you want so you can become a spiritist which takes a long time to do and you can actually Get this portal go into the nether and you can fast travel through the nether and you can do this as a regular player
Starting point is 01:10:35 So when you die you turn into a ghost I did it and what you can do is you have you go like a certain speed in the nether and there's priests that you Can hop to so you can go nearest priest or home priest when you do nearest priest It'll take you to another priest you kind of like fast travel map that way But you cannot move any items while doing that unless you have high level spiritism which lets you like move like a little bit Of gold and stuff like that. Can you charge people to move stuff? Yes So I had to do this off stream I had all my shit and like these northern towns
Starting point is 01:11:04 And I wanted to move to this like eastern town and we had like 2,000 gold bunch of armor items We had to get a caravan we had every single town We had a scout have to scout out like a kilometer in front of us to make sure we're clear I did this all off stream dude. It was fucking intense fucking Yeah, dude cuz the stream snipers are kind of bad in that game because it's one server. It's one It's one it's one server, but the thing is the community is about anywhere from like when i started playing it was like 800 to maybe 1100 players now it's like uh 12 to 1500 on its peak um it's one world one server like the developers have this philosophy it's like one
Starting point is 01:11:37 world one server there's no shards there's a there's a starter zone called haven where you can just kind of like learn the game, level up your character and stuff. And like, dude, it took us three hours, but we ferried all of our gear and everything to the other side of the map and we could have gotten wiped and lost it all if somebody jumped us. Like, it's not safe. Even in the spirit realm, if you're moving gold, which is the only thing you can move,
Starting point is 01:11:58 another spirit can come in, find you, kill you in the spirit realm and take your shit in the spirit realm. So even then, it's not safe. I love it! It's like Ultima Online. It is, dude. The developer's literal passion is like,
Starting point is 01:12:11 this is Ultima Online 2. That's his goal. It's like EverQuest, Ultima. It's the OG. And that's what sucks. It's like, because the one I really want is Pantheon, and it will never come out, because that developer team is just like, all over the place.
Starting point is 01:12:22 They're like, eight years later, we need more money. It's citizen almost done and you're like you pieces of shit and they still do monthly streams and stuff showing the content this month they showed like a dude t-posting like look at the new character models wow i'm like bro it's 2022 this looks like 2010 video game it's bad but yeah no i i i it was actually funny because like i put like 300 hours in like a month and a No, it's 2022. This looks like 2010 video game. It's bad. It was actually funny because I put like 300 hours in like a month and a half. Just real quick. No, no, no. We got to talk about that number.
Starting point is 01:12:53 We got to talk about 300. Most people put 300 hours into a game in 8, 12, 8 months. Okay, look. It's kind of my job to play video games for a living. Wait, what? You game for a living? Yeah. It must be easy. It's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:13:03 It can be stressful sometimes, but it's pretty cool like I just forget sometimes that it's a it's work And I just do it too much like I streamed a hundred and eighty hours in like two and a half weeks three weeks and like I took I took two or three days off yesterday Fuck you two hours month is a lot for a streamer. No, it's a lot the most in terms of like ad deals I've gone is 176. I haven't done. I haven't gotten any more than that I keep mine between 80s the night to be transparent They offered me like 18 K for 176 hours out on top of everything that it makes Okay, okay
Starting point is 01:13:41 And what I did what I do is I grind for the first like two three weeks in the Last week I just I chill out once I hit my number. I'm like I can breathe on a fucking chill absolutely relax Yeah, I'll be a bigger streamer. Yeah, you guys have fun with that. I played Wars I played I played it yesterday to do this. It's super good, but I fucking hate cod gameplay so much I can't stand people jumping around corners every fight. This is This I fucking hate COD gameplay so much. I can't stand people jumping around corners every fight. This is still- I fucking hate it, dude. It's slower. It is slower. It's slower?
Starting point is 01:14:08 This one is a bit a smidge slower. We're talking about Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2. It just dropped. The beta's live right now. The guns feel so good, but holy fuck. And if you use a Chronus, but the controllers, do you see how- Amos is just OP, dude. Dude, bro, it is like, bam! Like, snap, and it tracks the character right now.
Starting point is 01:14:26 I had to switch to PC only because like, I could tell when people were aim assisting me because I'm like, bro, how did he fucking just flick on me when I saw him two seconds earlier? And it, Batty, it track, like, you can be running and the aim assist is like, snap towards head, track with it.
Starting point is 01:14:40 I remember seeing a thing about running with aim assist. Everything about the new COD's amazing. Sound, immaculate. Animations, amazing. I've heard the sound is unbelievable. No, everything is so good. Everything is so good. I just- I remember seeing a thing about everything everything about the new cods amazing sound immaculate animations amazing sound like Everything is so good. Everything is so good I just the guns building the guns the gun the guns been things cool, but Tarkov fucking did that already like no Well, they just copying Tarkov. They're doing you have to open the boxes apparently now for the ray. There's doing raids and everything Yeah, they have the DMZ mode that's coming out
Starting point is 01:15:00 But of course it's not gonna they're not gonna show anything until release because they want to like edge people Until release and I just hope like it is cool but the thing is i don't like cod gameplay and the only thing i dislike is the jumping that's the only thing i'm a movement well the movement isn't super bad like yeah people move quick but it's just like when a dude can literally jump in the air full recoil shoot you in aim while falling like that kills it for me because every single fucking fight is a dude jumping around a corner I don't care about the slide is how I know cleans never been to war so that is how we entered in I'd like go Smith jump
Starting point is 01:15:41 It's just it's just it's just too fast for me But again the game is so high quality and like it's really and a lot of the animators who work for Activision watch my stream A lot mr.. Blindside, and I'm trying to Troy Irving. They're both really talented animators They worked on a lot of games and Activision Recruited them and they do there they if you press I the inspect animations have you seen them? Oh, go press I do do to mag check you like checks the chamber and stuff It's like any like he like pulls the Glock back and then taps the slide like it's super. It's really do the animations are Really good. It looks really good. I didn't want to because right now to play you have to buy the beta
Starting point is 01:16:14 I got a free access code just ask A bit I probably could I just Fuck I just don't like caught gameplay because it's too fast. Maybe I'm just old I like the more slow methodical stuff like the fastest I like my gameplay is maybe like insurgency sandstorm or something like that Yeah, I like that pace, but it's just like again It's just like I don't like a game where it's like m4s and tactical stuff, and then I see dude just like It's like flying around. I'm like what the fuck fuck is going on? I'm big on John. And I forgot how much that, uh, cause right now in war zone, when we go play wars and
Starting point is 01:16:47 I do like that quicker element because now how we play is very much rush, rush, rush. It's like team, team, team, team. We're trying to stack as many kills as possible. And I jump, I'm like, I don't know when I remember old videos. I never jumped fighting games. You're a big, no, no, you don't jump inviting him. No, no, no. This now I'm like, Oh, I build my hip fire weapon. And I, I and I Xexon those guys were like you build your gun to hit fire my SMG
Starting point is 01:17:09 I'm like yeah, I don't hit fire so op Do you can hit fire and you play against controller player you just jump behind him and yeah? You can lock that bitch on and then slower. I pull out my gun then run aim do that Yeah, I love it being able to like mount on what I put my hand in the come again Dude it is a trade-off where it's like you're trying to find this nice Speed as you're saying it's like is it too fast is it yeah So I think on warzone on the big maps you need that little quicker pace on short maps And it's like it the games way too fast It's like it's just all every stream of like a good player to watch. Cause like I'm friends with some pros.
Starting point is 01:17:45 It's literally like high ready, sprint, jump, high ready, sprint, jump. And that's all they're doing. Like every angle there,
Starting point is 01:17:50 they're doing the fast sprint and then they jump and then they do it again. And then they jump. They jump corner clear. Yeah. And then they, I didn't know there was a high, you have to double, you have to double tap shift.
Starting point is 01:17:59 It's really weird. Or you can go in an option and just turn it on. Yeah. And which is the dumbest thing possible. You're like, why wouldn't that just be on yeah, so there's two sprints you have this This is a race print yeah, yeah, and you're ready sprint You can get perks to make it last longer a little faster and stuff, but it's just like it's just too fast I fucking hate it. I think I'm just getting old I guess but no you would love now
Starting point is 01:18:19 That's where you get to see like where warzone and whatever call it. Do these brains are they're like we need to add this shit it's serpentine is the dumbest shit ever that's the one i think yeah zigzag and you take more bullets as long as you're zigzagging you can get shot more yeah it adds to your damage resistance and you're like why yeah why is that a good idea like ever why did that pass qc where you're like uh-huh quality quality here we go and yeah. Well, I mean, they have innovated a lot though because one thing that they did too is they have a lot of FOV control. So if you didn't check, you can actually make your gun further away from you or closer to you. So you can make like, it's your view model.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Yeah, you know, absolutely. But they added a lot of inverse kinematics to the arms. So it's a lot like Tarkov with this procedural animation going. The arms are actually connected to the third person model. When you see people reload, you actually see them take their magazines out and do the full animation that you see in first person in third person doesn't cotton before is like you'd see them reload They're just like Just they're just like wave their hand like that and you wouldn't see anything animate
Starting point is 01:19:13 And so like they really have like a bar combat reloads They only on last mag or if you have a side of hand So if you have side of hand your guy changes animation animation And he'll do like the like the flick animation whip just sure he's like they like take out no It's it's based. It's based off the perk and whether or not. It's the last round okay, or last yeah, yeah, empty bag Which is pretty cool. I mean again. It's it's cool, but it's just like I played it for four hours I'm like man. I don't fucking game. I can't Person one mode wild to me dude. It was so cheap. I literally I mean it dude I literally have a shotgun I would stand on a corner, and I could see around the corner like your third person one mode was wild to me too. Dude, it was so cheap. I haven't seen it. Dude, I would literally have a shotgun. I would stand on a corner and I could see around the corner.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I'm like, oh, you're third person. Oh, it's PUBG. Yeah, it's OG PUBG. Exactly. And even wilder. The dumbest shit in the world. When you aim in the third person mode, it goes to the first person. So it's kind of like SOCOM.
Starting point is 01:19:58 You ever played SOCOM? Yes, it's exactly like old SOCOM. Yes. God, SOCOM's a PS2 fucking blast. SOCOM 2 on PS3 was a fucking great game. Exactly, yes, so comes a ps2 fucking To on ps3 was a fucking great game. Those are all Classic games got our good so calm and that's what the USP got fucking crazy Mm-hmm. Yeah, I was talking about like that game. Yeah, I think you care the USP is there it was like your primary Yeah, or second fucking crazy that they do that it punch in and punch out
Starting point is 01:20:23 Jarring yeah, you're like, I mean first. Yeah, it's it's really weird like you don't even really need to aim You can just hit fire people yeah, which is yeah, you just need to strafe and wait for third person You're just pretty good at just you can third Yeah, you can you can use you can you can hit fire because there's like a shady reticle like a big reticle Mm-hmm, and then when you zoom obviously goes to your sights, but yeah, I don't it's on it try it out It's it's weird, but it's also at the same time kind of fun but it's also bad because people just abuse the camera and they it's just it's a pub g literally I don't know how they thought anything would happen they're like pub
Starting point is 01:20:53 g what'd you do in third person mode let me just stay here and then get this rock and elevate camera and wait are you prone on a roof or something nobody can see you you can see all around you gain information hop up shoot a guy. Shoot a guy. Go back prone. It did. Like, it's essentially. It was really weird. Yeah. It's like. And that's why I like first person games.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Is because if you want to gain information. You have to. You have to literally move yourself. Exactly. You got to expose yourself. Which is great. And that's why. Like, I played DayZ exclusively in first person.
Starting point is 01:21:18 I never played third person DayZ. Just because people like lay on the ground. The amount of times I saw that. When I was playing DayZ. Somebody just. Just rotate. Just rotate. And the camera would spin with yeah. Yeah, it just it doesn't look good at all Thank you for watching the unsubscribe podcast as always we have myself Betty streams Eli double bap and Our good friend clean donut should be back next week guys. He's been traveling a lot. Yes. We all miss and love donut
Starting point is 01:21:42 So hopefully next time you will have our beautiful baby boy donut back in the new studio in the new studio I'm so excited if you guys haven't already go ahead over to patreon and look for unsubscribe podcast and you can check out the after show where we just take cum shots for the next half an hour
Starting point is 01:21:59 attack on riding that was my favorite comment someone said they called it attack on riding because I was comparing how Raiden runs. He's like, he's a titan. I was like, oh my god, he is a titan. That's so fucked. Oh, I got, wait, I can pee too, Batty? We're going to cross streams?

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