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Episode Date: February 25, 2021

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Mr. Clean Bleen himself. You might recognize him from twitch.tv slash clean, K-L-E-A-N. Streams. Streams. Cleanup guy. Clean. I don't go by that name anymore.

K-L-E-A-N. That's how I started streaming Tarkov, because of you and P-Bro. Yeah. Really? It was Cleanup Guy and P and p bro those are the two like that got me streaming tarkov i used to be clean up guy guys his name and we got baddie streams clean up guy what was your og handle oh shit i haven't thought about that in a while did you have an original before operator yeah it was random CG. Random CG? Wait, for real? Yeah. What?

Yeah. I didn't know there was lore behind Donut Operator. We all have lore, Batty. Okay, yours doesn't count. Gatsu. Was that your AOL.com name? No, it was like Gen X or something. Oh, Gen Cross X.

That was later. But Gatsu was before that. There was J-Trell and Gatsu. Both are... You dirty Asian. Random generated names. I don't know if you can say that without... Random generated names?

No. The dirty Asian part. I'm going to leave that in there. I feel like I can say dirty Asian. That's not a stereotype. But... See, now it's safe. Okay, so say dirty any other race.

Sorry. Welcome to the Once If Guy podcast. Dirty white guy. Now any other one. Hey! Okay, we're going to. All right. Clapping.

Cut that part out. Mr. Bleen is our first guest we've had on the podcast. It's a real honor. Air quote. I think. So, Bleen, first things first, the haircut. What made you do it? My hair is long, and I don't like it getting in my face, so I tied up and put in a top

on it. Is it like, you have it trimmed here, but is it trimmed all the way back that way? Nope. Or is it like a mullet? Nope. Molds are cool out here. Is it a bowl cut like a mullet? Nope. Mullets are cool out here. Is it a bowl cut or a mullet? Neither.

What is it? It's, I don't know, just taper on the side lightly and it grows in. Samurai. It's a man bun. It's a samurai top knot. Come on. No. I mean, it's long all the way back here.

This is what we call, you are fishing for bullshit. Yeah, but my hair sits on the side. Usually it's down, but. This is a new call, you are fishing for bullshit. Yeah, but my hair's just on the side. Usually it's down, but. This is a new fashion that I really, you do look like an old top knot samurai. It is amazing. He is a warrior. It's true.

Anything he's saying, I just need to understand, he's setting up a joke for some bullshit. Do not listen or believe. Nothing's kind. He's the worst. You work out and you're fit and handsome, and I appreciate it. I think you're just used to getting ripped on all the time, Batty, so you just can't be used to anybody actually having nice things.

Batty, you're really pretty, buddy. Pretty stupid. Fucking sick, burnt donut. You're drinking Chilada. What are you drinking today, Dora? All right, guys, so I'm drinking some Chilada Fuego Cool, it doesn't sound like ranch water

There's ranch water, too Ranch water Oh yeah, guys, ranch water And to do ranch water, we have to do our Ranch water Clean Today as our guest, you're talking about ranch water What do you love about ranch water?

It's got 80 calories. It's nice. Quick, clean. Say one word. Ranch. Water is. So. Decent.

I. Want. It. To. Go. In. My. Body.

Very quickly. Thank you, ranch water. Thank you, Ranch Water. Thank you, Ranch Water. We're out of Ranch Water. If you could send us like 300 more packs, that'd be great. We drink it all in a day, every bit you sent us. And by all, Donut had it. I drink it all in a day.

And then in a week, we came back to the podcast. He was like, it's gone. I don't know what happened to it. Donut, we weren't with you for an entire week. John drank. John drank. John drank it all. My 11-year-old drank all my alcohol. I'm just throwing that out there. That picture we took

with Cody passed out on his front steps was real. Yeah, those were empty. That's it. Like video games on this podcast and we have Bleen here. I got something I want to talk about that's huge on Twitch right now.

It's big in the YouTubes. It's relevant. DMCA on Twitch. That was not my favorite band. Nobody... For those who don't know what DMCA is, it's the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, I believe.

Is it getting bad again? you know who you can bring up the topic first because you can blame them fucking Metallica those are the motherfuckers that started it fuck you Lars you dumb cunt literally the guys that started it

back in the Napster days Metallica vs Napster. Started this whole bullshit, which pushed this Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which basically means anybody who has the rights to certain audio music content can issue a strike, whether that be on YouTube, Twitch, or anywhere where your media is available, and be like, nah nah you can't showcase

that anymore because you don't own the rights to that song medium whatever it may be audio music song whatever so recently just uh the other day um i don't remember what it was if it was for the for blizzcon or nintendo's 2021 there was a a big there's a lot a lot of new games being showcased right now well Metallica was part of a Twitch stream where I don't know if anybody knows this Metallica it's it's Lars and Metallica's fault that the DMCA is such a problem now because they fought Napster back in the day for people sharing music. Well, as soon as Metallica started their live stream of music, there

was like two seconds of Saint Anger and it cut. Oh, they got DMCA'd. No. Oh no? Twitch. This is Twitch's broadcast. They cut the audio off so they didn't get DMCA'd on their own channel. Twitch cut their own audio to 8-bit musical, like, Pokemon bullshit.

Bullshit, yeah. So this is Twitch's livestream. There's hundreds of people rebroadcasting this same fucking thing of Metallica playing on Twitch. And Twitch is like, oops, we cut the music. So now you have hundreds of streamers who are rebroadcasting twitch's own feed because they're allowed to and then suddenly everybody's scrambling to mute everything as fast as they can because they're afraid to get hit with a strike because of the dmca three strikes your channel's gone you can't do anything about it gone so dmca is basically just fucking everyone yeah i mean

there's not there's not been that many people have been permanently banned Nobody form but some people have gotten strikes and again if you get three strikes on your channel regardless of the context you're gone Your channel is gone. So I'm gonna say something that That's bullshit to an extent. There's been zero actual twitch ban Yeah, I'm saying but I'm saying there hasn't there hasn't I'm just saying that's what would happen Yeah, exactly. Yeah, if you got three strikes, you're fucked. It hasn't happened yet, but according to the terms of service, if you get three DMCA

strikes on your channel, they have to cut you illegally. Yeah, and that's because, so for Twitch to allow streamers to play whatever they want, they have something called Safe Harbor. It's a special fucking thing for Twitch where if they issue these strikes and there's certain guidelines behind these

behind these strikes where if you get three of them they can just ban your you're gone you're forever or whatever your your channel doesn't exist for these these strikes have to be issued via twitch otherwise twitch loses safe harbor and if you they twitch loses Harbor, they're suddenly open for all of these lawsuits from all of these bands or more likely labels, UMG, Sony, whatever it may be. You just come in and drop their fat cock across Twitch and be like, you owe us $300,000. And it's going to be way more now. And that's the terrifying thing. And I hate it because it's like I see. It's archaic. Yes, and I hate it, because it's like, I see... It's archaic.

Yes, and I see both sides of it. It's like, you're an artist, you're a creator, and you want to get paid for your content. But,

on the flip side of that, like, I don't play top 100s, period. Never. Now, all my music is metal, metalcore,

rap metal, like, just anything that aren't on the top 100. And people are like, like yo what is this what is this now those names constant now that's all that gets pushed because these people that already they don't their songs getting played on the radio they're getting played everywhere so getting viewed on these streams doesn't fucking hurt them in the slightest it's like if i watched

a video if i watched a youtube video on just chatting and had donuts video get that's like donut fucking going after me and suing me you should go after him i mean yeah i would we can't talk about that right now we're in a legal battle so but it's that it's that mindset where you get so pissed it's like no these people can't play my music because x y and z and you're like and then all the streamers were scrambling to figure out most just stopped all together it's like oh i'm not streaming music yeah period just a couple of my friends i mean even shroud uh most i've talked about it like he does not play music on his stream at all it's silence it's it's literally just silence or if the game has music, you'll listen to the game's music. But if the game's music

has music that is kind of, you know, the game has the rights to use it. Yeah, Cyberpunk or GTA, people have gotten DMCA strikes from music

in Grand Theft Auto 4 because, you know, people do GDRP and stuff like that. It was, Dr. Lupo, there was one scene and I want to say

one of those games. Oh, not Left 4 Dead, but the zombie apocalypse with the plant people. Last of Us. Last of Us 2. Last of Us 2. The radio kicked on, and he just muted it because it was a song, and it was a clip he played. And you're like, he just instantly cut that song out because of that one thing. So it's like, as a streamer in a big time

when you're that level and you're just worried about one strike yeah your whole career could be jeopardized jeopardized from that and it's overnight which is fucking terrifying you're like ah oh i'm sorry i don't i don't want to do this even like dmca strikes i mean not dmca but strikes in general i mean you get a deal with that yeah a lot with quite a bit What I mean going on you to especially on YouTube strike apocalypse happened what like started like five years ago? Yeah, it was bad to me. There are people that were humming songs like the tune the songs and they were getting hit Yeah, it was insane for a minute there the YouTube algorithm is the scariest fucking thing I've ever seen Because you can whistle something and they'll be like oh wait. That's someone else music yeah all right we're done yeah YouTube just fucked us right there there's uh what's that one dude he make he's he did that skit where he's like hey anybody need a knife like that that guy

he makes his own music and he makes like a bunch of skits on YouTube and he got his own music claimed by somebody else like he literally made his own music false claims somebody else. Like he literally made his own music, false claims, dude, they don't matter. Own music. And like these fuckers striked him and like, Hey, that's actually,

it doesn't matter. But he's like, no, like I literally made all of this and I recorded me making all of this, like on the, on the fucking piano and shit. And then you just strike me for it. Hi,

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playing a live... That's like, as you're saying, it's like Metallica doing a live concert like, Twitch, are you fucking ready to fucking go? Clipped. Gone. No sound. Audio. And it's just like overdubbed of that and you're like, why can't we hear them?

Oh, well, like, yeah, they play it, but they don't own technically the rights. Twitch is afraid to play Metallica on their own broadcast with Metallica. Like, Metallica, it wasn't like they were streaming a video. It was Twitch's fucking channel. Yeah.

Streaming Metallica live for the for twitch and they're like twitch is live metallica's live it's been three seconds boom immediately switched to 8-bit audio like twitch switched the audio on their own live broadcast that's how fucked things are you think that was an automatic response yeah I think there's somebody behind the scenes they already knew that was going to happen we're going to play Metallica we got to cut all of this though

the clips are all over Twitter it's wild absolutely fucking wild even more so most of the clips on Twitter now are just the 8-bit audio people are afraid to play the first three seconds of the clip which has metallica playing state anger because of dmca now twitter strikes on twitter are so bad people are getting their twitter accounts deleted because of twitter because of audio strikes like sharing a clip on your twitter

account well can get everything just wiped and for a lot of people that doesn't matter you don't understand but as like a streamer a youtuber as somebody in social media as networking wise like this is huge for a lot of us and just have that shit ripped away and wiped is like it's pretty fucked so before you guys what years did you guys start streaming? 2017? 2016. 27, 2018. Yeah, 2016. So I want to say this was right before that period was,

I know Evo and Twitch went through this, Nintendo had a big DMCA thing. Because the way Nintendo looked at it at first was like, oh, why are we letting these people play these video games live and watch them a story be told we can just dmc that this is just a copyright they're copywriting or stuff they're showing yes no games yes and so that was like nintendo was like i don't know so evo actually went on hold for a year that's why smash brothers if i remember right didn't get played for a full

year or two because of the fear of dCA against Nintendo being broadcast without the right. It's wild. Because if you look at it, music and video games are no different. It's an art form. It's content. Exactly. And you could have, imagine if PlayStation 1 did it. It's like, no, you can no longer stream our content live without us having a cut of the pie.

And that's how fast, that's what's terrifying about it. Because it's like, right now it's just music. So it's a central thing. But it could expand. It's a slippery slope. And that's what's terrifying with all those type of things. It's like, I mean, we say music but it's movies, it's video as well. We just don't look

at it as movies because it's been so harsh on video for so long we don't count it. You can't stream whatever movie you want anymore. That's not a thing. No, not at all. Music is just the next strike. It's the next frontier for it.

We went from movies not being able to stream or video of any kind really, unless it's a game, to now music in that game. Like you can't play, like God fucking playing metallica on streams basically like saying shoot me in the foot but now you have games like grand theft audio that have an in-game radio in that in-game radio for grand theft audio you bought the rights to something that now can't be played on the now whoever owns like dmca exception shit yeah dmca there's layers behind layers wild where's fucking wild. Where does it stop? You have background sound.

What was the big one that recently happened a couple months ago? It was like car audio, like car sounds in the back of... Oh, yeah, no, there was literally like certain engine revving and or tire screeching and or wind sound. Wind sound.

Wind sound. Getting claimed for DMCA. It's like, oh, you got striked because of wind sound default claimed for DMCA like it's like oh you got striked because of wind sound default one or something like that and it like literally people own the rights for literal audio samples oh this is actually something that's really big in the lo-fi industry too because I just made a record label with my friend it's called Kyoto sound we like you know promote really like indie lo-fi artists cuz that's k-y-o-t-o kyoto

which is all i listen to in the background on my stream by the way nice because i made that playlist originally just to help artists out for free and it got over like 140 000 followers and i helped build people uh careers in the lo-fi industry just by being able to plug them in the algorithm and i just i lost time to listen to submissions and get people so that's why i hit up a childhood friend who's also a producer. And I was like, hey, man, can you take over this playlist for me and turn it into something? Because I've literally been using it as charity work basically for years.

And so we're actually using it to try and make a platform where people can listen to Lo-Fi beats and not have to worry about DMCA strikes. But something that's kind of sketchy about Lo-Fi is that people steal samples from each other all the time. And those original samples, you can, you can, they're in so many songs, even apparently a lot of my, the songs that I added to my playlist have a lot of unclear samples.

Oh yeah, absolutely. And you, you, you can get in trouble for even potentially listening to that sample, even though the song's probably fine, that sample plays, you're fucked. Three seconds. Yeah. Your song's gone fine, that sample plays, you're fucked. Three seconds. Yeah. Your song's gone. That's all it takes. And, you know,

when it comes to lo-fi and stuff, it's really, really tricky to find, like, legit original samples nowadays because it's so filtered. There's so many different people stealing from each other and just using each other's work.

And if you are in that world, it's crazy. Like, if you give me VFX, if I watch TV or if i see uh a youtube video that has like visual effects in it i know the exact like andrew kramer stuff because you have to buy that he's not going to get like like blood splatter in vfx i know it's a cross blood splatter like i think i just did a video about it yeah and you have these are specific ones that do these. And there's only a few.

It doesn't matter if it's movies, gaming, whatever. You're like, holy shit, I recognize that same blood splatter effect. It's been eight years, and I'm seeing this across multiple games. It's like, it's the same effect. It shoots across and makes an X. And you're like. And the one that goes up and down. Yeah, exactly.

It's wild. And the one that goes up and down. Yeah, exactly. It's wild. And muzzle flash. I can tell you the smoke wisp one is very specific and I know when I fucking see that on TV or in a movie. The same shit that I use in my effects sometimes where I get on YouTube and I'm like, smoke effect.

And there's a green screen behind it. That's what major video game and movie companies are using that oh yeah so they got to say people who's i'm an idiot fucking in texas behind a computer who's like oh yeah i just want to use a bang real quick how to do vfx whether it's uh 3d rendering modeling whatever i grab if you know how to use google that's where you don't need to create and make every single thing you do. You, you learn to fucking use these free fucking things and make it look better. That's the only thing that difference is like, I know at time and then I make it blend better.

So it looks more organic. That's the only fucking difference. I'll add layers onto it, but it is the exact same effect. And if Andrew Kramer, like I have the license to it, like all the teams do, but most

people fucking don't and if he just went through and dmc striked like a majority of youtube boom he's like hey did they pay for this let me see the license no they didn't knock them too because that's where dmca gets terrifying it's like what does the art where can you stop at like what you can start claiming yeah period imagine like donut like if you got the username or it's like donut operator now they can't say that and then you'd like donut strike anybody who makes a joke about cops exactly if there's a donut in a video oh no cop and that too related that's mine now strike all your adsense goes to me and you're like donut business and then you use all thatSense to YouTube because you made it.

Donut Media takes it from me. A gun joke once. That's what's terrifying too, man. Me and Brandon Herrera, who just came in a minute ago. He's going to be on the next episode. Woo! We were talking about how one day, they're just going to delete our channels. They're going to

be fucking gone. Absolutely. Just because we like the Second Amendment, we like guns. YouTube, Eli Double Tap does not like guns. Anything about that. Batty streams on YouTube. I hate firearms. They are terrifying things, guys. Why?

Oh, my God. I don't need to own that. Thank you, Glenn. They make up new policies every day. YouTube could just be like, we don't, Glenn. Dude, they make up new policies every day. Yes. And YouTube could just be like, we don't want guns. Dude, I couldn't imagine. Brandon and me.

I'm waiting for Twitch to do that. We would all be gone. Because I know there's the whole HR 127 getting proposed right now and stuff. And I'm really waiting for the next big thing to happen on the media about gun control and stuff like that. And I'm one of the only streamers on Twitch who does gun stuff, as well as you, Eli. I think you were the first one. Yeah, no, I don't know anybody else

who really would consistently go to the gun range and stream on Twitch, because everybody was afraid. I mean, the only reason I started doing it was because you could do it, and then whenever it was like, you can't do that, I'm like, Kling does it. That's always my answer. I asked Twitch, I'm like, hey, I read your terms of service,

and here it just says you can't threaten yourself, other people on your stream, or your viewers with knives, firearms, or weapons. It doesn't say anything about you using guns on stream the way that they're intended to use in a safe manner for training. And I asked Twitch about this, I'm like, is this okay? And they're like, yeah, it's fine.

And I'm like, you sure? I'm like, yeah. And usually a lot of people freak out because back before Twitch was actually uh bought by amazon and they had their older terms of service just justin tv yeah justin tv and stuff like that uh there was a a guy named like rice gum or something and he was like threatening people with a bb gun or something i remember he threatened people with a bb gun or something on his stream yeah and and that and he got banned for it and ever since then people were like oh you can

never show guns on stream like because like i used to when i started playing tarkov i had like my ak behind me on my wall people were like dude you need to put that gun away you're gonna get banned this and that and i'm like no no i've read the terms of service like it doesn't say anything about like if i have a gun on my stream like yeah if i'm pointing at myself and being a retard like yeah okay yeah i might get banned but it's just it's just on my wall for for looks that one guy i love we live in the age of information and it's still all information is treated like panic no it's it's treated like the playground was like bro i heard if you speed run this game you can get laura croft naked hi there i'm ryan reynolds and i have a list of

things i like to have on set it's just little things like two freshly cracked eggs scrambled with crispy hash brown sausage crumble and creamy chipotle sauce from Tim Hortons. From my rider to Tim's menu, try my new scrambled eggs loaded breakfast box. And then everyone just takes that to heart. Wait, I can- Guns are bad. You're saying I can see triangle titties right now. I'm saying I've heard my uncle works for PlayStation. It's because Twitch, YouTube, these big media will not put a line in the sand

where what you can or cannot do, whether it's YouTube or Twitch. Be fucking clear with us! They will not, but they won't because of that reason. If they're clear, they suddenly have to uphold their own standards. If shit is shady,

if shit is unclear, if shit is that's lawyers by the way lawyers are really good at writing contracts exactly man like if they're if they keep things kind of oops wishy-washy they're allowed to be like that's okay that's not okay nobody can fight yeah they well yeah it's it's all based off context at that point i mean but that's the problem you can't even say Twitch put out their huge thing two years ago. Last year. Context is king.

Hold us to context. Everyone's like, here's the context of this. Why are these people banned? Why are these people not banned? It still doesn't matter. The girl literally Oh, the asshole girl? Show her...

Holy shit. She opened her pussy on stream. Like, literally opened her pussy. Like, just straight up... Just to say OnlyFans. Like, check out my OnlyFans three-day band? One day. No, it was 24 hours.

Was it 24 hours? A 24-hour band. What? I didn't know about this. We've had a friends band for way less than that. That's what I'm saying, man. It's,'s like insane that like twitch is like hold this to context you can just flash your straight up fucking goddamn cervix and it's and it's a one day ban that's where and that's where it's like you see who's like running in there like oh uh well and this isn't a thing against

titty streamers or girls on this stream like there i that stream. There's another girl that's a huge streamer when it comes to body painting. And she upholds every single standard when it comes to Twitch's body painting standards. She doesn't turn on her stream until she's covered her nipples. She's already done all of her painting and everything. And then suddenly Twitch is like, no, we don't like what you're doing. Here's a fucking week-long ban. You know what happened? She went and fucked one of the moderators.

Dude, like, that's it? Like, what the fuck, man? Sorry, Twitch, we love you, dude. We love you. That one, Linity throwing her cat. And then there's that other girl who kind of just, like, tosses her cat aside and she gets back to her game. And that shit gets banned for, like, two weeks.

But Linity's like, nothing. No, but Linity, like, in the difference of that situation, like, Linity was, like, aggressively throwing her cat situation, like Alinity was like aggressively throwing her cat. That was the one that spit alcohol on her cat. Yeah. And again, vodka. Nothing happened.

Yeah. This other girl, like, uh, she got banned because her cat walks across the desk. She just goes like this. Cause it gets back to her game. Alinity literally like,

cat over her shoulder. Eats her cat. Like she literally like, fuck you. Eats her cat. And then curses at it. Twitch is saying context is king like

motherfuckers if you want us to hold you to that standard maybe maybe uphold yourself to some kind

of standard but this is why they don't do it it should be I mean but that's the thing they won't until social media

holds them accountable like oh where'd Hasan go what happened there that motherfucker dropped off the way I used to hang out with him at cons Music is a good dude. He's great dude and the guy who realized oh, he's rapey as fuck Tell me I'm wrong. I don't know this story. I don't know his son was he was a twitch Okay, not that one. He's Anabi's a great fucking dude.

Okay, yeah. Hassan, we were talking about Twitch. You said Hassan. I actually hung out with Hassan like three years ago. Once, yeah. Two years ago. Yeah, I would hang out with him

and a lot of the other Twitch staff homies. And, you know, he's always a cool dude, but apparently like he was like sharing private information about female streamers with other people and doing a bunch of really shady things. Oh, what are you talking about? You know, basically like, hey, if you don't do this, I will ban you.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's power hungry. Yeah, just really not okay behavior for a person in his position. And he just went, he just disappeared. Just dropped out of the map. Nothing happened. No negative contact. He just disappeared.

Twitch let him go. And he was like... No, I didn't hear about that story contact. He just disappeared. Twitch let him go. And he was like... No, I didn't hear about that story with Homeboy just disappearing. But it's also the angel. Well, he's not the only one either, man. There's so many people. There was a few people on Twitch. And I'm sure there's also ones that people don't know about as well.

The best way to do the internet... If you have internet dramas, fucking don't say anything, shut up, disappear. And then it's gone in a week or two. Yeah. Because it's the internet cycle. It's literally like, ah, and it's gone. Dude, I remember so... Before, Batty?

Go. And you're saying like Twitch should be held to standard. It's like people, when they like yeet a cat, both should be on the exact same band schedule. It's like seven days, seven days, right? Yeah. Exactly. Batty, like with Slush passing out drunk on camera? Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay, like, I'm not going to disagree with you. Like, Batty does it. No. One, two. How much of a band did slush get? A week, I think.

No, no, his was a three day. Was it a three day? So Slush was already on his third fucking strike, though, is why he got into a bad one. So for everybody who doesn't know what happened, me and our buddy Slush Puppy on Twitch. Go give him a follow. Great guy. He's Australian. He's a cunt, whatever.

Huge cunt. Giant. Me, Slush, you, Eli, and I think and i think kings oh yeah we're all drinking we're having one of our nights where we get shit cocked on stream and everybody left and it was me and slush and i was like i was hammered i was drunk and slush was well beyond comprehension at that point i was like bro i'm ending you should end too he goes no I'm good 20 minutes later this motherfucker slumped over at his desk

snoring passed out fucking hammered drunk this dude first off started shit talking to me I was like ha ha you blacked out on stream bitch how many drinks you have oh my god I would never do that I was like uh huh

uh huh oh you'd never do that. I was like uh-huh Oh, you'd never do that. He's trying to make fun of me and then the next day. I get a text from baddie slush got bait Yeah, we did a mana potion night where we're just doing shots to drink man a man a For all my nerds just doing shots to drink manna potions. For all my nerds out there, you had to replenish our manna. And Slush lost that fucking game. But it was really, I guess, he had hurt his back. He was also on some muscle relaxers and shit. And he kept talking about being on these different pain meds while also drinking.

You don't want to mix those. While on stream. That's the line. So if everybody doesn't know, like a month later, old baddie decided to go out. I just love it. Yours was out on your front or your back fucking porch. So I used to do these streams where I would just go out on my porch and grill and drink. They're good.

Far too much. And I don't remember what was going on. I was clearly in a bad place. But I had this giant mug that was sent to me by one of my mods. It was a bad dragon. The company that makes the dildos. Dragon cocks and shit. They sent me a mug.

But it was like a fucking big ass mug it was meant to hold like half a handle like whatever 200 300 milliliters of whatever like it was a lot of booze so i poured uh i did a jamo ginger but it was like half a bottle of jamo and a mug and i didn't realize it until like i finished the mug i was like well half the bottle's gone i'd been grilling dogs and burgers that night so i poured the rest of the bottle in when i finished that one and then i drank an entire bottle of jmo uh black and like it was like 45 minutes an hour god yeah it was i was fucking hammered and then towards the end of the stream i was like man i'm just gonna

take a nap i just and my mods everybody's freaking out they're like dude you're gonna shut the camera off i'm like nah and i just curled up and you know i messaged you like 30 times because my mods were like message batty call him right now i'm like calling calling calling calling calling this call through and i was just like and i think the only reason i didn't get banned was because I was like, I'm going to just take a nap real quick, and you're allowed to sleep on stream as long as you're not in a category. You pull yourself from a category, you're allowed, like a lot of streamers do it. That scares me.

Not just chatting. Just like nothing. No category. Nothing. You can do that. You just press delete and then press save. You're good. That scares me because I wake up sometimes and I'm completely nude.

Dude. I fart. I get boners. Because I've seen people who stream themselves sleeping. There's no telling how I'm going to be in the morning from when I go to sleep. So to continue on this, it was like 5 a.m., 4 a.m., whatever. I've had 300 missed calls. My mods, everybody's calling me. So my mods have access to my stream stuff.

So they pulled me. As soon as I was like, I'm going to just take a nap. They're like, oh, fuck, dude. He's hammered. They pulled me from the stream category. So I was in blank. And I was just me just chilling for like an hour and a half. Just sleeping, curled over.

Out on my front porch and like, you know, the background is the sun and shit. It's starting to rise. I woke up at like 4.30, 5 a.m. And I was like, looked at my phone because I was getting calls still from Donut, from everybody. And I just went, nah, fuck that. I put my phone down and walked my ass inside went to bed stream live everything going all my mods were hanging out until like 7 a.m the sun had come up i panic woke up dude i've never had it's been a minute since i woke

up like where am i you know like i know that feeling yeah like usually it was like back when I worked like a regular job and I was like fuck I was supposed to be at work four hours ago instead it's like fuck I was at work oh no why am I here I woke up in my own bed going how did I get in my bed I don't remember

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Outside of my box, there's no shirt. I was like, camera's on. Slammed the laptop shut and went, fuck. I just love you were like an RPG character just starting his giant endeavor in life. It's like you have that wake up. The sun is setting. It's like, you have that wake up, the sun is setting, it's like the hero arises. It's like,

does the hero accept his quest? No. You just go to bed drunk. Dude, I slammed the PC, knocked over the camera, went back inside, looked at my phone.

I was like, oh no. Cause dude, not two weeks weeks three weeks earlier i was just shitting all over slush puppy for passing out drunk on stream and then i fucking did it and nothing happened to me though like i didn't like i'm not like a smaller like i had like 400 fucking 500 people watching you sleep watching me pass the fuck out drunk they had hosted rolly and then rolly stream ended so it kicked back to me and my mom's like what do we do what do we do it was chaos and this is the most terrifying moment it's like waking like the mana potion

night's like waking up and i'm just like all i remember is i wake up in bed i'm like why why am i how did i get here why am i in bed uh-oh uh-oh do i want to watch this vod because i'm about to delete it dude the key i've learned if you delete the vod before you end it doesn't save any of anything after so if you delete the vault like you know that 45 minutes into your like I'm gonna get drunk tonight delete that vod it will not save any of the rest of the night a vod by the way is the recording of the city on demand yeah that's a video on Twitch it's your mistakes for the night so like that's what I've learned to do if I'm gonna get shit cocked dude I'll be like hey party pineapple can you delete that

vod for me real quick he's one of my mods i can you just delete this right now i need to add him as a mod he's i'm wearing one of his shirts today party i just love that's pretty sick he he's such a good dude too party pineapple i remember i will always remember that giant raid in tarkov where you gave me a bag nothing Oh, dude, yeah. Nothing but pineapple juice inside it. And then another bag with nothing pineapple. You know how those old bags you could stack and then resell? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The infinite stack, he would do that for like 30 fucking bags.

So you're just searching, searching. It was pineapple juice. So you're like in Raiden and you're like, why am I searching through pineapple juice right now? Jesus. I did a bag full of mayonnaise last week on my raid. We just did that. Yeah, we did the bag full of mayonnaise and we got fucking murdered.

Oh my God. That's what Tarkov has turned into. It's just people not giving a shit anymore. It goes through those cycles. You have like a... It's 30 days. It's about 30 days. 30 days.

That's when the game is really fun game Just why nobody's running best in slot gear besides the fucking most ridiculously sweaty players wait mark 18 through 3-8 Lapua semi-automatic fucking bullshit Okay a shotgun like metal bullshit anyone It goes from being like a fun like hardcore survival game where like there's scarcity and people like need things to like they're just being An overabundance of money and things and there's just like the 1% of players who are super rich And then you got like the 99% of people who are just trying to scrape by and they're just still doing the scab runs and stuff And you're one of the first clean it out. Oh dreamers. I ever watched playing Tarkov

Well, I mean, I mean not to toot my own horn, but I was like the first person really there was you and two other guys It was Rhino something Rhino crunch streamed at first. I streamed the day after he did but then he quit. Who was the third guy? I honestly don't remember. I mean there was three of you fuck, but you were the only one that is Like me and a bunch of what they called emissaries in our because I was the emissary I'm just saying at the time yep Our job was just to basically promote the game and just get it out there and get people to know about Tarkov, basically. It's basically like a free PR position for them. And I did a great job marketing for them

that they hired me to eventually be official, like public relations for them, you know, official PR, a part of their marketing team. What happened there? There was a hiccup. Oh, what happened there? What happened?

What was that? Mr. Marine, what happened? Mr. U.S. government working with the Russian government. What was wrong with that? Please, spy. I was in the Marine Corps Reserve at the time, and they hired me originally to be their United States representative. So it wasn't a PR position originally.

And they were like, hey, we want you to get licensing agreements for firearms for our video game. And I'm like, okay, sounds easy enough. They're like, you're a Marine, you're perfect for the job, you'd probably be able to talk to these weapon companies really well. I had no idea that that was against the DOD to coordinate foreign agencies with domestic firearm manufacturers.

I had no idea. Hold on, one more time. Can you just put that one more time? That word right there. One more time, What was that? Connecting what? The DOD what? So it is against DOD policy to be a member of the DOD and coordinate foreign agencies

with domestic fire manufacturers. I did not know this. While you're in the Marine Corps Reserve. So wait, I didn't know this. You're a spy for the Russians. Basically, you're a communist. I'm going to go spin guess helicopter up right now movie with Nicolas Cage Lord of War which one national treasure he is Lord of War okay can we hold the Lord of War was it still branding it's on oh I don't know he was

okay but the thing is I never broke the law because I never actually got any... You didn't make a deal. I never made a deal with anybody before I figured that out. So I had somebody tell me like, hey, bro, you can't do this. You're part of the DOD.

And I'm like, I can't? And they're like, no. Was it a Twitch chat that kicked you off? Or what gave you the... Who gave you the insight? Fuck fuck what was the moment you shit your pants i'd never shat my pants because i know i never broke the law i was just like oh fuck i was like oh dang it like this could have been really bad i just picture cleaning in a c-130 with a bunch of ak's bringing him to russia like wait what this is illegal guys we gotta turn this plane around what's going on right now brandon herrera gave

me all these the ak guy akg 47s and so i i told battle say i'm like hey this job you gave me is actually illegal in my country i can't do that. And they're like, oh, that sucks. What about Black Arms Deliver? Are you sure? And you bring us AR-15. Please give Arrow uppers. 338 La Pua. And so

at that point, they're like, all right, we'll move you to our PR team, and we'll have you do public relations and help us with networking and marketing for contractors and streamers. Just hang out, play lots of games. It'll be good. No transaction. Legal. Take American Guns sometime.

Pretty much. We'll pay you in Ruples. You'll get Schmeckles. Ruples, the diamonds. You heard of Legend of Zelda. Bitcoin, 700K. I don't have a lot of money right now. Rain. Rain, good, and Tarkov. You'll like it. Bitcoin 700k. I'm learning a lot of money right now. Rain.

Rain good in Tarkov. You'll like it. Yeah, right. You'll love sound. Sound good. Everybody's really salty about Tarkov. God, fuck it, that rain, dude. It's been going on for like three weeks now.

Dude, the amount of salt. I've seen Twitter. I've been playing different video games. All the biggest streamers will not play Tarkov right now because of how long and how loud the rain is. It's so dude you can't do anything you can't hear things it's just like it sounds like you you stepped into a kitchen with 400 cooks cooking bacon all at one time guys i i'm gonna yeah just screaming in your fucking actually this next segment i'm gonna do audio we're just gonna do a little and then I'm gonna overlay the bacon going through this next

conversation okay help okay don't know what i mean clean wait clean where is your wear about that okay that narrows it down i'm not overlaid bacon noises during that entire so you have the idea of how bad the rain is in that game it's escape from tarkov again by the way for those of you that don't play it yeah nikita and it doesn't it uh it coordinates with the rain in St. Petersburg? In Russia. It's been raining the entire time. Super great. Love it. Super happy.

It's funny that we know when it's raining in Russia because fucking Tarkov. There is a fine line between realism and fucking annoying. You want to make something as like... It's a game! All right, dude. All I'm saying is, like, with the SKS and the Mosin and stuff, you should be able to just drag bullets into it when you're not in-game.

Instead of taking the magazine out of the fucking gun, putting the bullets in the magazine, then putting the magazine back in the gun. Dude, why are you pulling the choke cap off a fucking shotgun to load it? It's technically the magazine, guys. Shut the guys fuck up it's got a goddamn tube why can't you why can't you right-click the tube and empty that magazine why do you have to pull the cap or the tube itself to load the gun so works this is Tetris of first-person. I'm angry. I'm so mad. I will go on the biggest canvas on this camp.

On what you were saying. There's a point where realism needs to just stop. They're already getting to that point. BSC's getting to the point where they're going to be, you know, really making some major overhauls to the game and hopefully actually making some real changes. But they have a philosophy that they want to add things that are realistic as long as they apply towards the gameplay like a 338 lapua semi-automatic fucking ar see what people don't realize though is they're actually going to switch up a lot of

shit about the gun stats and mechanics like the way the weapon resets and stuff like that eventually like that thing will be terrible for close quarters because you'll sprint with it it's going to go like this and then it's going to come back up like this. Real slow. Where now it's just like, it's literally 200 milliseconds. It's instant. Yeah, it's instant. It's the same for every gun in the game. I don't want to tell Donut to go pick up his 300 Win Mag AR.

Oh, that thing's fucking heavy, bro. Like, dear God. Like, they skipped from 5.56, 3.08, straight to 3.38 Lapua. It's truck month at GMC. Tackle the open road with added confidence in a 2025 Sierra 1500 Pro Graphite at 0% financing for up to 72 months. With an available 5.3 liter V8 engine, 20 inch high gloss black painted aluminum wheels,

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best close quarters guns in the game. It's stupid. I mean, I was saying that when they came out. Why was that not a bolt gun? I could see it being a bolt gun. Yeah. But, I mean, it's just, Battle State has still so much shit to do, and the game is so immensely complex, and there's so many fucking things that are

interconnected. When they try and change one thing, it will break so many other things. Oh absolutely. Especially with all the movies. I will give that game is it's a lot more complex because of all the moving pieces with the different types of round for a single weapon. You have like five different rounds for like a 5-5-6.

Oh my god. How many 9x18 rounds are there? Uh 13. They're all pretty much the same. That's one caliber. There pretty much three that are good but everything else is useless well the thing is but like they all are like within the difference of like two to three points in terms of damage yeah it doesn't matter which is really marginal after the first three days of a wipe it doesn't matter yeah nobody uses 9x18 unless they're just trying to meme and shoot people in the legs yeah and that's the thing is so you have all these little things but then then they're like oh we'll just do a 338 lapua and it's no different than

cod if they do like that shit faster could you put a 338 lapua on screen right now compared to like a 556 or 70 by 39 like showcase the size of that it's a big ass. Like people joke. So as somebody who owns a 50 BMG, people ask, when are they going to get a 50 BMG to Tarkov? Constantly. I'm like, well, there's already a 50 Cal in Tarkov

because it's the. Machine gun, the mounted. The Ash 12. No, the Ash 12. Well, the Ash 12 is a 50,

but it's more like a 50 Beowulf. It's more of a 50 Beowulf, 50 AE. But it's still big. It's like, those rounds are about this big. Yeah. Like with the cartridge,

they're huge. They're fucking. The difference between a 50 BMG 50 AE. But it's still big. It's like those rounds are about this big. Yeah. Like with the cartridge. They're huge. They're fucking. The difference between a 50 BMG and like a 50 Beowulf is. Cartridge and the length of the round. We're talking like 700 grains of gunpowder versus like 300. Like, yeah. It's a lot. We're talking punching a fist size holes in your chest versus like just a poke, a finger hole in your chest.

We're talking about... The force behind some of these rounds, specifically a 3-3 at Lapua. It's getting hit by a Kia versus getting hit by a train. Even then, you don't... This is what bothers me. A lot of people will come at me

and be like, well, there's armor out there that can stop a Lapua. Armor that will stop a 550 BMG. Yeah, but you're not going to get up. It's liquefying your insides behind that armor. That's what people don't get. It's like, there's armor that stops it.

They don't understand pressure versus, like, or foot pounds of pressure versus, like, a penetration. Yeah. Like, it drives, it's insane to think about getting hit in the chest with a 50 BMG. Well, it's like making, it's the people that also have the idea. It's like, why don't you make a t-shirt out of Kevlar? Because that's still resting against your body. Your ribs are all broken. Your lungs have collapsed.

Yeah, it displaces all that energy. Same thing with 12-gauge slugs. Exactly, exactly, man. You get hit in the chest with, even if you're in a level four plate, yeah, the plate's going to stop the slug, but your sternum is going to be fractured. It's like, oh, suddenly your insides are backwards. It's going to suck.

It's going to fuck you up. It's just shattered. But then you go up to somebody in Tarkov with a 12-gauge shotgun and blast them 10 times in the chest, and it does absolutely nothing to them. I hate how weak shotguns are in that game, man. Unless you shoot people in the legs.

Well, actually, if you're able to identify, because me and Nikita actually went back and forth for like two weeks trying to buff shotguns with Buckshot. Nikita, by the way, is the lead developer. He's the COO. He's the chief operator. Of Escape from Tarkov. Yeah, for Battlestate Games.

And so we went back and forth for a long time about shotguns because I told him specifically, like, pump shotguns with Buckshot are useless. They don't do anything anything and what would happen when you aim at a wall like 10 meters away the the spread of the buckshot is just like it's like all over the place it's all it opened up eight feet a lot of times this bug is still in the game you'll literally have a perfect circle sometimes so your point of aim is in the center you literally have a circle of buckshot it's like a perfect circle and i'm like why the fuck is this happening? This makes no sense. But, shotguns with buckshot are actually pretty decent. If you can see a dude without a helmet

and get within 15 meters of him, headshots, easy as fuck. One pellet hits the face, they're dead. That's it. That's why the KS is so good. Yep. Because, I will say this, as much as we joke about the KS-23, which is like... It's a four-gauge shotgun. That thing's fucking huge. It's a 6.71 or something American gauge. Huge!

It's a six-gauge? Yes, it's a six-gauge and American gauge. It's huge. It's a 6.71 or something American gauge. It's a 6 gauge? Yes, it's a 6 gauge American gauge. It's huge. It's huge. It's fucking two times the size of a 12 gauge. It's a big ass fucking shotgun. That's our magnetic gun. I'm trying to, I'm literally working on getting one IRL right now.

Have you ever shot a 10, who's shot a 10 gauge? We used to have one. It was called the cheater gun when we, so I grew up shooting skeet. That's how I learned how to shoot. Those, the recoil on you yeah dude holy shit your shoulder brute like that's i can shoot 12 gauge when you do three gun you run 12 gauge all day long right of it 10 gauge is the only time i remember filming for the tv show and i had to shoot the blanks for the 10 game now blanks are what suck because

you're stuffing the end of it and you're shooting so you have a lot of fucking recoil that is the only time in a gun where they were like oh we only have like 20 more takes i'm like okay can we like not fucking that do it in the next five and they're like is it bad like i remember pulling my shirt down and it was just black and they're like holy fuck, bro. I was like, this does not feel good. Like, ever. Period. I was like, please, somebody else just try to shoot it. I remember one of the dudes, he was like, it can't be that. Like, oof. He was like, oh, wow.

Okay, yeah, Eli, we need to get this on these takes that we're doing and not just be wasting takes. I was like, dude. Sorry, my shoulder's dislocated right now. If we just pop her back in, I got one shot. It's a huge shotgun. Six gauge.

Six gauge. It's like a 6.21 or whatever, 7.1 gauge in American. It's used by FSB units just to clear houses and shit. We need to blow a hole in the door and the door behind it. This is if there's like elephant terrorists.

Yeah. Big giant terrorists. Titan terrorists. These elephants work for asses. We gotta kill this family of elephants. It was one shot. It's a nutty little shock and I think they developed it in the 80s.

Yeah, it's old. I don't know if they really use it anymore, but they have it and they add it to the game and, you know, just basically one shots the legs, which, I mean, they add it to the game and, you know, just basically one-shots the legs, which, I mean, honestly, it should.

It absolutely should. It should do that and people hate it because they're like, oh, Ria, I have a five million ruble kit and this guy killed me with a hundred thousand ruble gun.

It's like, well, fucking, you suck. Stop letting him get so close, bro. Yeah, stop letting that guy get close and stop being so garbage. We murder people with that so much. Oh, my God.

Batty got me into it. I'm like, this is so fun. Dead, dead, dead. I wiped a team. That's also a huge problem with the game is you invest all this money in gear and armor, and then you have some guy with a Mosin who just kind of claps you. And a lot of the people who get upset about that, they kind of hide behind their gear, and they don't really realize. They hide their skill behind the gear.

Yeah. Absolutely. Well, that's because Tarkov's the type of game where it's like if you have the better armor better ammo better helmet like you're going to win a majority of most smaller caliber rounds you're gonna win you're just you're inherently better at the game right there but like if you have a good player who has less you can outsmart people and win like i mean i i got second place in docs like uh tournament using nothing but the mozen the goal was to make as much money as possible okay mozen all i did was i fucking killed people i looted and sold everything and i got second

place for using nothing but a mozen fuck it was the most boring thing i've ever done in my life i love the mozen that's my actually i take that back i've done some really boring shit one of my favorite clips of you though i remember you were on reserve and you were in the train station and there was a guy with a fucking I remember you were on reserve and you were in the train station. And there was a guy with a fucking giant fat kit, several million dollars. And you had a pistol. And he just turned and sat there for a second. And you had a little 9mm pistol.

Yeah, he had a visor on. You hit him in the ear. Yeah, and he had contacts. And I'm like, oh, his ears are open. I'm like... One 9mm shot. And you had a giant kit after that. I mean, that's the thing about Tarkov.

The game is all about information, not really raw skill. You've got to pay attention, man. Yeah, you've got to pay attention to shit. It's all about the information, and it's how you use that information to your advantage. I mean, yeah, there's raw skill, but out of all of the games out there, Tarkov, in terms of actual gameplay, is one of the easiest FPS games out there. The game carries you so much. People don't really realize.

They get very intimidated by all the information, all the gear, and all this stuff, but it's like, dude, you get a gun with a recoil, 60-round mag, and some decent armor. Especially sound, dude. You can literally, yeah. As long as you listen. Yeah.

Oh, I sound horribly crazy in that game, but, like, it's an easy fucking game to play. The recoil is less than Call of Duty. The recoil is non-existent. Yeah. You have initial burst, and once you get through that first quick quarter second, it's flat.

You know, honestly, like, the vectors, everybody's using the vector right now, right? Oh, oh my god. It's so nasty. I keep seeing all of these highlights of these dudes, like, oh my god, this guy's so sick looking. He has 50 round vector just melting people. I'm like, that's not cool.

Like, he is using the easiest gun in the game. It's, it doesn't, it, like, it's, it's not cool like he is using the easiest gun in the game it's it doesn't it like it's it's not like it's like people are like jerking themselves off like oh man i'm so fucking good and people are jerking off the streamers who look look how good he is and it's just like bro he's using nothing but the best in slot gear that makes the game easy as fuck to use yeah that willers guy it's so easy and it's just like's a good transition to Willers and why we hate him. Fucking Willers. We were watching that clip last night. Was it where Willers jumped off the roof and killed a four-man?

Heavy four-man. Yeah, in the dorms window, right? Yeah, he just shot him through the window. Because he plays it like Call of Duty. Yeah, because you can. You can play the game like Call of Duty. Once you figure it out, that's... Because the game's advantage is desync.

You move faster. The game's netcode is is garbage since you literally move so fast in that game There's zero inertia so you can strafe like this and because the game's netcode is absolute shit You only see people for like 100 milliseconds like there's got okay. He's gone. He went back around. He's already killed you Yeah, and he's already fucking cuz he saw you standing still at the end of a hallway for a second while he bobble-peeked somebody. Yeah, he bobble-peeks you or they stutter-step on you and they get peeked and managed and they win. That's why I play so aggressive when I run the Chaos 23 as a meme now. Because it's so much fun to go against the most geared players with a shitty shot. I say shitty. The best shotgun in the game.

Yeah. And I'll just sprint at motherfuckers with a shotgun rip their legs off even more so when it's a full team yeah because they only hear their own teammates i really i really we need to get together and make a skit of tarkov of the expectations of reality of what tarkov dude could you imagine trying to pick somebody irl no it would be so funny because like i can already imagine like walking through a field and like we're like you know all tactical with our guns and shit looking around patrolling properly And then you just got bunny hopping and just

Daddy pops out screaming with a shotgun Yeah, just yeah just jumping around So ridiculous like some shit like it would be good content We're gonna tango north and then like you're all dead from a shotgun blast to the leg yeah It's it's just like the game labels itself as like this hardcore, realistic shooter, but that's not how it's played. I know the developers, though,

they... They wanted the best. They're trying. Yeah, they want it to be the best, but like, they... You can have idiots like us. Yeah. They're gonna break the game.

Yeah. The thing is, is like, I know Nikita, like when he watches, say, Will, or like Landmark, or any of these like,

you know, Chad streamers play the game. I know he doesn't like it. Yeah. He looks at that... That's not what they want. He's told me that person, he Chad streamers play the game, I know he doesn't like it. He looks at that. That's not what they want. He's told me that person. He's like, yeah, I don't like it. I don't like that this is the way people are playing the game.

And he's like, this is our fault. It's because this is the way we've designed it. It's hard. The developer skills are brutal in Tarkov. Yeah, they're fucking broken. They're so good. You literally play the game more. Again, I hate the fact with Tarkov, even though I'm trying to be an MMO.

And with MMOs, if you you dedicate time you should get the better grind time you should you should be able to benefit from the grind however with Tarkov because it's an FPS game you play the game more you and you're good at the game already the game carries you even more with these skills and with the better it's like you're like again like beginning of a wipe happens usually these streamers most of the time they'll get level five armor level five helmet and then they just do not die for

just steamroll yeah they don't die for a week because they know where to get the best gear they know where to get the good good ammo and they just shit on everybody with their

macros and handguns and people are like oh my god he's so good looking at him I'm like no look at his alt advisor he got shot in the face 15 times he would be dead if he had

any other piece of gear on but that armor is carrying his ass right now. We can get there quick because we play more. Yeah, exactly. Oh, why, by the way? How do you balance that, though? Well, I mean, it's really easy.

You just don't spawn that shit at the beginning of the wipe. Literally, like, no level 5 or 6 armor at the traitors. No level 5 or 6 armor spawns in the game at all. None of that spawns. None of it is acquireable until 30 days into a wipe. Then once it's 30 days into a wipe, then you slowly add it to the traitors. You slowly add it to the traders, you slowly add it

to the loot economy, and then it slowly filters into the game over time. So that way, like, beginning of wipe happens first 30 days, the best thing you can find

is level 4 armor, level 4 helmet. That's it. Slow things down. Slow down progression. Slow down progression massively. A wipe, by the way, is they completely delete

your character every couple months to make it fair for everyone. I would say every month. It's like every six to... Every couple months. Nine months?

It's two to three wipes a year, maybe. I'd say two a year. So people start building up this super chat, amazing gear, and then they just delete your character entirely and everyone starts over at zero. But that's when the game's the most fun. You actually need shit. You actually are going against not people running the same gear

every fucking raid with the same ammo. Because that's what it is right now. Dude, early wipe is the greatest gameplay in Tarkov. Yeah, it's funny as shit. I love it. It's awesome when you find a gun or some barter goods or whatever, and you're like, oh, this is sweet. And then late wipe, you're like, eh. It doesn't matter anymore.

It's not worth it. It doesn't matter. Throwing away M4s and shit. I think that's why iRacing is a good example of this. You have your different leagues that you can race in, but my favorite leagues were the ones where you couldn't customize your vehicle. Everyone had the exact same car layout across the board, so it's all skill-based at that point.

There's no like, oh, my car is set up better. Because you'd have the cars, and when you got more in-depth with those, that's when you're like, suspension, toe angle. So everyone's like oh the mechanics really know how to tweak that to the best of their abilities but when you have just everyone has to drive the same car that is when it's like now it's the driver that matters exactly and those are the best races because everyone was just everybody has an even playing field and that's that's the problem with tarkov is because like you got the people like me or landmark or

will or even Batty. We've been playing the game for so long. We know immediately where to go to get the gear. We know immediately what to do to get the good stuff. I intentionally, the first 30 days of the life, didn't use level 5 or 6 armor at all. Just because I wanted to feel like I was threatened. Because I knew I could go into the raids and run around with the best gear and not die, basically. But I didn't because I want to be scared for my life life i think that's kind of fun that's exciting that's more fun i do

i agree it's exciting it's like absolutely it's the positive and negative emotions not just like oh i'm always gonna win you know what i mean it's it's it's it's exciting knowing that there's a possible chance of loss you know and uh you know tarkov's just one of those games where it's like it's it's gotten so popular like I remember streaming that game to 100 people for months. Yep. Just 120, 130 people.

Clean up guy. Yeah, man. And now, that's why I started. I feel it. It's one of the biggest games on Twitch now.

Like, well, not even on Twitch, the gaming industry. It's one of the biggest games. Like, everybody knows what Tarkov is. Most people who play games now

have heard of Escape from Tarkov one way or the other. Oh, yeah. Guaranteed. I mean, this year alone has made it a staple in the the shooter the fps yeah oh yeah i mean i honestly i'm really looking forward to this year because i know how much 2020 last year yeah yeah well yeah but the

same thing i mean this year the drops event this year and all that like they hit 300 000 co-current players and all that you know they they release a major update, they break it. Or they break their records. But I'm really excited for this year, though, in terms of games, because of Tarkov having an impact. I'm really excited for new FPS games coming out, the new Battlefield coming out, a lot of other tactical shooters that I

know have been paying attention and be like, oh, Tarkov, what's this game doing? I'm waiting for somebody to make a legitimate competitor in Copycat to Tarkov. a competitor Tarkov That's what I want. That's what a lot of people want. That's what a lot of people want though They want that because Tarkov, you know, we love that game to death. It's still it's flaws. It's got it's got its flaws You can't be competitive. Yeah, no, but that's the thing people make it a competition that like I've literally like I love landmark He's a good dude. I've never had anybody asked me only PMC kills

I have until that fucker started putting that shit in his title literally i've never the four years i've been playing tarkov i've never had any clean how many pmc kills you got it's because they just want to compare me i hate they they compare stream for the raid tony by the way they do all this shit and they jerk them hey remember that time they jerk the stream donut killed you Tony I did I did tell you in dorms second floor with a VSS But thank you for the raid the other day Tony's always should be a PMC killed one People turn into a competition and it upsets me a bit just because, like, Tarkov to me is like a hardcore, like, survival game where, you know, you're trying to tear it out of the survival category and make it the next Call of Duty.

Exactly. People just want to see Twitch fast-paced action. Whenever they change the game to slow things down, to make it like an actual, you know, hardcore, immersive, realistic shooter, people cry about it. Like, when the wait system first came in. Oh, my God. I loved the wait system. People cried. They were fucking slowly tearing it back. People cry about it. Like when the weight system first came in. Oh my God. I loved the weight system. People cried.

They were slowly tearing it back. It was so punishing. Yeah. Because it was so punishing. You couldn't bring in 560 round mats. It's like motherfuckers didn't understand what it was like to carry 100 fucking kilos of gear. Yeah.

Like fuck you. I should be able to run around and jump. If you're bunny hopping across the field sprinting for 10 minutes straight, fuck your ass. You've never done that. You've never done that before. It's not fun, man.

Bringing in a thick case. Dude, right? In their backpack. Cases and bags. Fuck that shit. But they'll say, like, oh, it's a video game. It's a video game. It's like, no, like, yes, of course it's a fucking video game, you retard.

But they're trying to give you an immersive experience so that we can get sucked into what it's like to be in a real battle situation. BSG has said this many times. They want people to kind of suffer and not have that much fun because real war isn't fucking fun if you've actually ever deployed. Weird. Eli. Weird. You have a purple heart, right? I was bunny hopping all over.

Okay, that's what I thought. I was like, shut the fuck up. My bad. I was like, IED. We have three soldiers here who never deployed. Eli's seen combat. And Eli, he's full of shit. Yeah. Eli had a thick case in his backpack. Eli's seen combat. And Eli, he's full of shit. Yeah.

Eli had a thick case in his backpack. That's what I walk in. He had as many HP that weighs eight kilos. You know what I mean? I was peeking real quick. Jiggle. Jiggle peeking. Terrorists.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. That's enough of that. That's enough of the podcast today. We got to cut it. That's it? That's it. That was a good one. That was a solid one.

That was a whoo. I can't wait to just mute clean the entire time. I'm so sick of hearing him. Beep! Beep! He lives in Colorado, Oregon. Everything's okay. Go follow the podcast on YouTube. No, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, clean, where can we find you?

Oh, it's good. It's way better. You can find me as clean as clean. K-L-E-A-N I-S-K-L-E-A-N on Twitter and Instagram as well as twitch.tv forward slash clean. Bam. Clean with a K. Look it up. And then Batty, where do you find- Not actually clean with a K because when I say that, people are like, you mean actually

like clean like with a K? That's like the whole name. Like, no, motherfucker. Like the word clean, but instead of a C, it's a K. I forgot people would actually do that. People are dumb. People will actually do that. C-L-E-A-W-I-T-H with a K.

Clean, but instead of a C, it's a K. Figure it the fuck out. Steven with a P, okay. Oh, bro, I have that struggle all the time with my name, because my name is Stefan. And people are like, how do you spell it? Is it like Stefan or Stefan? Can I call you Stefan from now on?

I like Stefan. Stefan. Yes. I actually tell you Stefan from now on? I like Stefan. Stefan. Yes. I actually tell girls my name is Stefan sometimes. Oh, I mean, absolutely you do. You have the hair of a Stefan. You have Stefan hair if I've ever seen it. And it's really sad that my name's Stefan after one of my dad's ex-girlfriends because

his girlfriend was named Stephanie. You've got a girl's name, bro. My dad told me that and he was going to give you- Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. We're going to save this for another podcast. We can't let everybody know why his name is named after one of

his dad's ex-girlfriends. On that bomb, Michelle. Batty streams at battystreams.com. And then... Donut. Baba weba. Baba weba. Guys, thank you so much for this episode. We're going to... Next time. Maybe. I don't know. We'll see. Love you.

Stitcher, Podbean, Castro, Apple, Google. Castro, Podbeans. Castro, Podbeans. I don't know which camera we're looking at, but I'm just looking at all of them. I stopped. I'm just looking at Eli. you you you you you you you you you you