Unsubscribe Podcast - How Jiu Jitsu Took Over The World | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 274

Episode Date: July 26, 2026

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I feel so good now. Super man. Three, two, one. It's racially ambiguous. Brandon. His hair is fucking fabulous. Oh, yeah. Welcome to the unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tap, bad electrician, Steve Hargett, myself Donut Operator.

Thank you so much for being here. What's up? Look, we got another Asian in the house. Holy shit. We've been taken over since that last year. Owner operator? What? Owner operator?

No, I said, I'm Donut Operator. Oh. Yeah, he's an owner operator. I can't own owner operator. Yes, his name. Yes, actually. Owner operator here. It's me and a bunch of fucking minorities on this podcast.

The Asians are taking over here. Oh, man. I would like to know while we're talking about it. What happened after the podcast with those sweet Asian people? Wait, hold on. What happened? We had two Japanese, or two people, man, when was Mr. was it Fukunara? Fukonami?

Funaki. Funaki, yeah. Funaki hasn't been to the United States in 50 years. This is a 75, 76 year old man. So why does that matter? You'll see. Okay. You'll see.

So a video went viral. What was that? End of last year, right? Yeah, it was December of last year. And it was a YouTuber Adam that was, he travels the world and he goes to that rural outskirts of one of the Japanese locations, like north of Tokyo by two hours. And this old man is just cleaning his little school and it was like English teaching school. plus a little cafe and he's looking at him. He's like, oh, he waves him over and they just started a conversation and Adam ended up hanging out with him for two days.

And bro, and he came down with his daughter and it was some of the funniest, funnest moments and they are just sweethearts. But they were not ready for anything. Even the daughters lived here for four years, but she wasn't used to. everyone being so welcome, we're like, oh, hugs, all like talking, very loud. It's just like, yeah, oh, yeah. I got to. Oh, yeah. So they come onto the podcast.

The dad starts talking and we don't know where the stories are going and they're just comedy. He speaks English because he's an English teacher in Japan. Yeah. Yep. Because, I mean, the only thing we knew about him is that that thing with his English school went viral. And so we're like, fuck, yeah, let's have him. him, see what he says. Dude, he talked about living in New York, being a taxi driver and getting blowjubs.

And then at the end, he's talking about, I've got a story. Like, dude, this is awesome. This is best part of him. So he lived in New York, and then he went back to Japan. He opened the first Benihana in the United States. And they found. And he actually, they picked him because he was Asian. He's a Japanese man.

He cooked a Japanese of food. Very strong accent. Amazing. And then, yeah, we were just laughing our asses off. So you flew him here to be on the podcast or he moved back here. No, that was even cooler. It was we got extremely lucky. I seen that they just started their new Instagram page for the cafe and apparently doing

really good. So I shot him a DM. I was like, hey, if you're ever in the United States, we would love to have you on the unsubscribe podcast. I think it would be a blast. The daughter, Naniko, replies and she's like, oh, actually my dad's going to be coming, visiting for his 76th, 78th birthday. Next week, we'll be in Texas. It's like, fucking perfect.

Well, whatever you need, we'll buy your tickets. We'll get a hotel. Like, we would love to have you both on. They show up wearing cowboy outfits. Like, they were just having the true teriotypical Asian tourist vibe. Wait, there were cowboys? They dressed like cowboys for this. And now the dad has his store,

the cafe is very America. Like American flags. And Elvis, he loves America. So that's what he wanted to have in Japan. And that's why when they were coming out here, we took him shooting. We took him.

And a homie was terrifying on a gun. So I got that on kind of. Dude, that level of an old 70-year-old Asian man just going in the zone, never shooting a guy before. I'm like, oh, hold it like here, here. It's like, okay, ready. Just finger on the trigger, finger on the trigger, pointing it.

Yeah. And you just, dot, dot, dot, dot. It goes to the 20 rounds. Like, oh, that was really, really good. And I point to the target. I'm like, holy fuck, homie. You just. A zone.

Oh, dude. A zone grouped. Yeah, no strays. Even the range cadre, they were like, what the fuck? I was like, I don't know. And then the second. I feel like there's some stories that he left out. Yeah, right.

For sure. But the, uh, and then they fired. a whole bunch of different weapons had food and then they went and got his first tattoo he got a fucking tattoo what what did you guys do to this can't help it we love bringing on for what was the our new zanagan brought us a toaster yeah oh and they brought us little uh like lucky charms hell yeah lucky charms that's what show brought to what was the tattoo of uh Texas oh just a little and on his arm like right here which i was exposed. I doubt it. It's like a big no-no in Japan still, isn't it? Very big no-n-n-

especially a rural part where he's from. There's like not tourists and stuff. He's probably not going back though. Well, I mean, I'm pretty sure the yakuza's not branding themselves with the Texas outline either. So I mean, to be fair. And he wants, oh, uh, when we go, because we are going to all go there together. He wants us to come stay at his place. But he knows the, the sumo wrestlers that come from the Yokozuna. He's one of the Yokozuna. I got fat people here. Yeah. You're like, I ain't trim. American thing. This is not my vibe.

I'm good. And that was Japan. Steve, hi. How are you doing? Well, I was going to go further into that story. Where are you going to stay? His English school?

Home. They turned it in here. They turned the upstairs into a little, I guess, like a staycation area. What are it called now? Bread and Breakfast. Yeah. The gang teaches English. We are learning a new.

today. So it's a A is okay, but the all make it offensive? Yeah. Correct. English so hard. I mean, they hung out the next day Connor did ask her out on the podcast. Because, dude, her dad, even for the Adam video that went viral, her dad is talking to Adam. And he's like, oh, are you?

you single? He's like, yeah. He's like, my daughter, you should marry her. Whoa. Yeah. And you're very beautiful. You should marry her, though. Then you can have a Japanese wife. I was like, oh man, his dad does not give a fuck. So Connor then asked her on a date and she's like, yes. But it was when we all went after shooting. We all like sat and ate and then they had to leave to Dallas. So that was their quote unquote date. It was fun, dude. Connor got shit right that night and it's hilarious. Shout out to her boy.

He was, dude, he was starting to get there when he asked her on the date. Can I take your daughter on the date? Yep. Dude, when we got to the bar. King of the Hill is, like, really popular in Japan, isn't? And he's like literally the walking personification of Dale Gribble. Like, imagine that's quite the catch over there. They don't understand each other.

But yeah, man, that was a good-ass time. I really enjoyed interviewing those people. Like we were fucking laughing our asses off that entire time. Oh, sorry. Looked over there. I was like, was behind me. Nothing.

Okay, now, now Steve. Yes. Hi. This is your friends. This is Steve, my jiu jitzer coach. Do you live up there? No. Oh, no, no.

He lives in Austin. No, yeah. I actually live an hour and a half away from here. Oh, no shit. Yeah, I was like, oh, I can just drive. Fuck yeah. So if you live. you guys want to come there hour and a half train yeah that's the gang does

jiu-jitsu I've been trying to make that happen for three years I'll go I'll do it we've done boxing out like three times yeah you do some grappling that I'm a grappling a long time six time world champ oh no not me seven time world champion two sorry eight time world champion Steve 12 time He's like, don't do that. So you're a fifth degree, Dan, black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu? No, third. Fifth degree.

Is which he's changing tasks? It's like bartered in the other direction. We cut out all your answers. You're a liar. Steve the liars, what are you going to be known for? I mean, it wouldn't, lying is kind of runs in the industry. So it wouldn't be. It wouldn't be shocking to anyone.

How old are you? right now i'm 42 okay that yeah Asian look yeah i was like i don't be it could be 30 to 60 yeah yeah yeah yeah you have a wise I get that it's because they're sequential yeah they're thoughtful they're thinking they're thoughtful so you're not falling asleep he's just he's a say he's damn you've done uh what jujitsu for how many years 20 yeah almost 20 that's yep dedication to the craft first time I met him, I rolled with him and he goes, your jiu jitzzi's fucking gay.

I like this guy. You gotta be honest. You gotta be honest with people. It's the only way. And you're in guard. Hey. Bro. Your jihitsu's king.

You're the one on bottom. Ironically, that was actually true. So what you, What got you into it? Actually, a friend, it was after I got out of the Marine Corps. Thank you for your service. Doesn't everyone here in the military? Yeah.

That's why we do it. You tried to like pass it off immediately. Now there's two people on the podcast that actually deployed. Yeah. I love thanking people. That's a normal event. It's like, yeah, it's just like, give it to one of them. Double and give it to the next guy.

Double and give it to the next one. I usually just say it was my pleasure. But you work at Chick-fil-A now? It was my pleasure. Okay, so you got Marines. Dang, did you do combatives in the Marines? What's it called? Oh, McMap?

Yeah. Yeah, but I don't know that that would qualify. Not really. Pissed off a lot of Marines, but they're on level one certified. Well, before we got out of the Marines, so I was in 29 Palms, which is sort of like hell on earth. It's a butthole. Yeah, it's just like. But it's good.

What's that? Instructor. Mojave Viper. They had like an urban, they set up like, so after we came back from the first tours in Iraq, they're like, we're not training correctly. so we need to change this so it was part of that first group what were when uh what years were your deployments 2003

10 months and then 2004 and 5 that was the illusion I'm guessing you were pushing there so we were on the Syrian border so it was the invasion was first and then we stayed so Al Nazaria and Najaf like our big ones okay

and then it was on the Syrian border There was a Al-Aambar province, but it was still like Huseba was kind of where everything was happening there. But then they were also flying us to like Haditha, the river cities. Like we're in Babylon based out of Babylon for a little bit. Yep. Like running out of there. Yeah, we were in the Diyala River provinces where I was out over there.

So generally, you were in a different area. Yeah. Beautiful area. Yeah. Were you in the Army? Yes, sir. Oh, okay. So when we went to Babylon, were you ever in Babylon?

So it was an army base, but the Marines were running operations out of there. So when Mattis came up there, they flew us there to guard the base because we didn't trust the army to do that. Got to have a. So there's a palace on top of the hill, and that's where they put us. So every time that you want to go eat, you're like down and walking back up the hill. Oh, God, yeah, that would have been a rough hand to live in a castle. Yeah, on top of the hill. You have to walk up the hill.

But anyways, we had us, we put, we created like a slingshot between the pillars and we're launching things at the Army tents. Because there's nothing to do all day. What can you do? Did I tell you about when we, me and Ethan and Zach went out to Fort Campbell? Uh-uh. So this is a legend. It's not officially confirmed, but, and it reminds me what you just said about not trust in the army. So Fort Campbell, obviously, 101st Army base.

They used to store nukes there. And we went and we toured the, the nuke facilities and like the tunnels and stuff where they stored all the nukes. And that's an episode of Hibisually Fat over on Pepperbox. But apparently back in the day, it's an army base, but the Marine Corps was in charge of guarding the nuke facility. Military history guy. And over the nuke facility was a no-fly zone. We're going to dress Connor for this skit. I don't like this.

No one look at my... I'm not gonna. If my attorney showed up looking like that, I'm going to jail, yeah. I hope the mic picked up my knees popping. Just so you does, it is a very comfortable... Oh, I'm fully compt up right now, dude. I'm fully compt. You can't get more comfort than this right now.

Whether it's workouts, golf, travel, being outside, or weekend plans with the friends just being outside in general. You know how it. is summertime. I love being outside. And every year when summer hits, I realize I need clothes that can actually keep up with all of that. Funny you should say that, Brandon. But refreshing your wardrobe every summer sure can get expensive. Connor, where did you get that sweet outfit, though? Stop laughing. I asked you a f***ing question. I got it at fabletics.com using code unsub. It's not code unsub. Why are your fingers so salty? I went to faptoletics.com slash unsub. to get up to 70 to 80% off.

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There's fucking nukees there. It's during the Cold War. Marines are on guard. Live rounds. Fort Campbell got a new officer in charge of the base, a new base commander. Take me up in a fucking Blackhawk or a little bird.

I want to see my base. Okay. Fly me over that part. We can't. That's a no-fly zone. I'm the Fort commander. We do whatever the fuck I want. They flew over.

The Marines started fucking shooting at him. And it was just kind of like, that's what they were told to do. That's. Jesus. And the historian there is kind of like, there's no actual evidence that that happened. And I was like, yeah, I fucking bet because the base commander looks like an asshole. So fast. That's embarrassing.

Why? Did you do that? Why tell them in a quote, I can do whatever the fuck I want to do. Well, we gave them. Marines bullets and said, shoot it anything that flies over. Four stars. Boop. Three stars.

I don't know if you know this. The Marines can't see your four stars while you're in the helicopter above them. Dude, fucking military bases. I do not miss that shit. At all. It is weird. Like when we do, uh, have you, uh, did you watch the Pentagon episode? No, but I heard about it.

So the, saw the, so the cred. Yeah. And you get a like meeting that high rank of people. You have that same. where it's like what the fuck because you've probably never talked to a general in your life maybe one yeah it's right and a lot of people just think you interact with generals or higher ups all the time you know no especially all of us we're we're all e4 we're all e4 mom right the podcast grunts yeah it's like i never i don't think i ever met an admiral in the navy yeah

yeah super rare you're like and then you'll meet like maybe a one star but now we're it's with yeah but it's usually in like a specific setting like i remember general maddus was running when we were coming off of like off a mission or something and he's just like hey remember talks to you for a second like holy shit yeah keep running keep running yeah dude i just see that's the mindset it's like fuck you're running like everyone's licking they're doing the side-by-side runs Like anything so they don't see you. So you're talking to these generals in your thing? Yeah, well, now because they invited us to, we were at,

dang it. $250? No, I mean, even at the 250 retirement for. Randy. Yeah, Randy's retirement. Yeah, like John, General George. So his retirement, hey, do you guys want to come out, hang out? And that's on base and it's this entire event.

But then you're just hanging out with the general of the army. Right. Like, or the sergeant major of the army. And then they're just cool. Like, we're just all bullshading, having fun. And then other people are like, what the fuck? We've had people come out. I'm out.

I'm actually out now. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Fucking. It's just funny because like it's this mix of like people that are there in a professional capacity and we just get invited because he likes us. So he's like having a very professional conversation with like people in uniforms and suits.

And then he sees us, oh, what's up guys? And walks up and like high fives us. It gives us a hug. And they're like, who the fuck are these degenerates? It's so cool. We're fucking pounding beers with them. And then it's like 04 and 05s are the bartenders serving. It's like his aides serving us.

Hell yeah. Like majors and lieutenant colonels is serving for the events. Like man, what the. What the fuck? Two scoops. We're getting stopped at the gate and we're like, yeah, we're here for, you know, the general George's party looking like this. And they're like, no, you're not. And we're like, yeah, we are.

They wouldn't let us in the first time. They wouldn't let us in and we had to make a call and then a full bird colonel comes rolling up in a GSA. And it's like, let them in now. And the fucking dude's like, oh, oh, okay. Instant like. I mean, that is a good point, though. They shouldn't let you in. Oh, for sure.

They should be stopping. They should be not letting you in. Well, that's what was weird. The last one, it was we go up and like, hey, what's up? And we're trying to get to the event. It's just me by myself. And naturally, the Uber can't drive through the gate. So I hop out and I start to walk towards the gate.

I was like, oh, fuck, I need to find my paper. Like, Eli. I'm like, yeah. Oh, you're good. Go on through. I was like, fuck yeah. Hell yeah. It's just a.

weird experience now coming from like enlisted side at a lower level and then you're seeing all that like revenge of the grunts yeah yes exactly and then like the house we run we run the shit now the house they have the party in is general pershing's house up on the hill that every joint chief has lived in since pershing so like they walk in the room and they're like yeah so uh this is the elevator that uh general mccarthy had illegally installed against orders so his mom could live here with him um here Here's the phone that Eisenhower used to answer in the middle of the night to see how World War II was going. Bob Hope tore this wall down. They're like, we call this the Bob Hope room because this window is not original.

Bob Hope said he just wanted a window there, so they grabbed a saws-all and cut one. There's just like this window that's like 40 years newer than the rest of the house. It's like, this is awesome. Oh, man, good old time. So you were in for us. When did you get out? 2006. Okay, so you did it for?

Yeah. Smart. Yeah. You're like, was it 9-11 that kicked it off for you? You're like, oh, I want to join. Yeah, I think I joined in November of 2001. It's like, yeah, we're probably going to go to war.

And you went during that first push with no one knowing what the fuck's going on, which would have been like mop gear sometimes or. Yeah, it's funny because I listened to, no, it was mop gear for, I think, 27 days. which yeah dude the sweat like the sweat but what was interesting was we're sweating through them

so you have your mop suit and then you have your black jacket on and then you take it off at the end of the day and it's wet like this is supposed to protect me from gas the water's going through it just sticky

so then you did that well it was so So I went to boot camp in June of 2002. Gotcha. So our boot camp's 13. Yeah, so ours is, so I graduate high school and then left like two weeks later. So our boot camp's 13 weeks. And then you go home for whatever.

And then we go to School of Infantry. And then we got done with School of Infantry, I think December. and then we went to the fleet and then we deployed like two weeks later. So it's basically like get your shit and go sit in Kuwait. Damn, that's a quick turnaround. We're like, what the, okay, we're over there. Then Kuwait and then, God, you're running the M16A4s.

Yeah. Yep, those big old changuses. And then they're like, here you guys get ACogs. and everything that we'd shot previous was iron sights. Dude, when we got over there and walking into like one of the chow halls and seeing Marines, I'm like, why are they, what,

we still make those? Like M16, but still like it. Like figure it out. Yeah. The Marine Corps, they're like, here's the shittiest stuff,

figure it out. Go clear out a city with a musket. With the fucking foot long. The acog. Okay, there. It's broke. Hey, you laugh.

The Marines got investigated after Fallujah for those acogues, all right? Have you ever heard that? No, no, no. There was a, there was like a legitimate inquiry into the Marines executing people during Fallujah because there was so many fucking headshots. And then the investigation was basically like, no, they keep poking out of windows and the Marines got acogs now. They're just fucking doming people as they're driving by. This is so gangster

So he did After Three tours you said Two Two okay Yeah And these are nine to ten month tours So it was only ten months the first time

Because they didn't have a rhythm yet So You know we pushed all the way to Baghdad Then all right you're done You're going to go home Right So the Marine Corps is an invasion force Not an occupying force

and then they just kept pushing us back longer and longer and longer which was a problem because that's not the group of people that you want to be occupying any city anywhere in the world that's true you look no further than right outside the base is wrong dead broken or pregnant and all the bad guys are dead there's only two things left to do I'm about to get B.A.H. So what was your short? How long was the second one then?

Then it was seven months. Damn. So, you know, Bush is like, the war's over and everyone's like, yeah, we're going back. I did one tour, 16 months. Where? Iraq. Oh, shit. where were you

so we were in Baghdad or East Rashid was our A-O we lived down in a cop It's not the same Okay Because you're on like a nice base with like a chow hall You're using a lot of words in it You're drinking so you get to drink like Yes I again I was in a cob we lived out in sector

I got to rotate every 22 days for showers. Oh, okay. So you actually did real stuff. Yeah. Unfortunately. Okay. You camped. Yeah.

Well, there's a lot of people that were there for a long time. I know. That were on like a nice base. Like our guys would get wounded and go back and be like, this is incredible. You guys got a dominoes? Yeah. I got, when I got shot, I was on a mission next day because I went to the wrong aid station.

Is that your fall or is that the? No, I listen to it. Like, it was. It was a. fucked up day it was mission two we lost two of our own two died six got sent home from a mortar just or uh one mortar just landed right on base shrapneled um and again this is mission two and then they're like go this a station i go there and then they're like what the fuck no go this aid station i'm like yeah that sounds about right i go they do everything i'm like okay well i think you're good i don't have a pat

i was a all right next day just right back at it quavis weren't you shot yesterday How long had you been in? Uh, year, uh, two years leading up to that deployment because we stood up the unit. So it was okay, you see our, okay,

you had a fool. There's a whole turnaround. When we first got to the unit, we had, uh, E-4s as like first arms. Just because it was a brand new unit. We were just, oh,

wow. And they're like, hey, we got to build up this striker unit. then send it over. But when we deployed, it was always, it was the tip of the spear. So it was Eves Rashid. And we lived out in sector and each time.

So we never got to go to. Okay. We got internet once every 20. Why was it so? I mean, that's the way to do it, though, to be honest. Well, you know. It has its perks. It went really quick.

Yeah. I mean, the distraction thing is not good. No. It's not good. So why were you there for so long? Was that just how you guys did your rotations? What year was it? This is the surge.

So 2006 to 2009 is the army. Yeah, yeah. That surge. So you would, they could only put 12 months as how long you could deploy. And every army deployment is 12 months. And the second you land, then they extend you for three months. So you have 15 months. But then I was Advon, which fucking suck.

That means I was out in country first. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I was like, uh, so. That's the worst, too. It's like your second time out and you're just like, this is going to be a long. But you get a 10-day break in between. Dude, I still felt bad for the guys that you're a month into a 15-month deployment, and that's when you're mid-to-relief is.

So like, okay, go home now. So you barely, like, acclimate to anything and then you're back home for 10 days. And then you're going right back. Where they send you home home? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So for mid-tour leave as you get to go anywhere in the world that you want to. Well, I'm Iraq?

Yeah. Oh, shit. Okay. So then they fly you do your thing and then you come back after your break. That's 10 days? Yep. A lot of people went to Amsterdam. Yeah.

A lot of soldiers like, what? I'm not going home. I'm not going home. I'm not going to. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. So it's a completely different like rotation. Yeah.

That's why I was like, oh, interesting, seeing how long you would have to go for. So then it turned into seven months. So the first one was just long because of that. They, at 12 months, it stayed 12 months until I think. No, for us, it was seven months. Got you. Like that was the, that was the rotation for us. Which is smart.

Like that is a, I think that's the six months, seven months. And then you're back and you get it like decompressed compared to 15, 16 months of brutal on people. Yeah. Especially families, dude. Compare that to like World War II. It's just like, Yeah, well, we're going until we fucking win.

We're going to win. I was thinking about that. You probably had no idea. I mean, you're the history buff. What? What was it like back then? Well, it's like, so I mean, I just, I just did a no clue when you're coming back. I just did a video on a guy.

The part that blows me away about like World War II is at that point in time, you have to realize, like, everybody thinks of like the 1940s of like, because you only see videos of like people in cities. Like, you've got a good idea. what like New York City looked like in the 40s, right? That's not most of the United States. Right. Most of the country at this point, especially the further west you go, is still 50 fucking years in the past compared to that.

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that I've seen a car once. There's one rich guy in town that's got a Model T. I'm still riding a fucking horse to school. Like I grew up, I grew up in a log cat. and with no power and no plumbing. And then you ship this guy off and six months later, he's a fucking airborne soldier jumping out of the most technologically advanced plane on the fucking planet. And I think that's a big part of why like that generation just, he never really talked about a service.

Because imagine leaving that from your parents, farmers, that don't even have electricity in their house. And you come back home like, what was the war like? And it's like, how do you explain to somebody like that without a TV? There's these giant fucking plane. and there's fucking guns. We're flying to the air and a tube. Like, how do you even begin to explain?

It's sci-fi to them. So, like, that's the interesting part to me. But the dude I just did a video on, he, he's in Bible college trying to be a preacher. He gets drafted his junior year. And he, like, shows up. And they're like, all right, if you want to be artillery, go over here, medics, engineers, infantry. He doesn't even know what the words mean. Yeah, exactly.

He doesn't, because, like, there's no T-Berry. nobody's seen, you know, saving private Ryan. He has no fucking clue. So he's like infantry, infant. That sounds babies must be able to do it. That sounds easy. So he goes to the infantry part. And he next.

Give me a baby. Just break it or take care of it? Next thing he knows, he's at fucking leading a platoon. And they're like, yeah, we're sending it to the Pacific. He's for the army. And they tell him they're like, all right, you're spearheading this amphibious landing onto this island. You're going to be the first one fucking there. So be ready. And he fucking Higgins board the fucking door drops on the Higgins boat. And he goes running out fucking

guns blazing. But like nobody's shooting at him. He's like, what the fuck? And they get on the beach and there's just fucking dead Japanese dudes everywhere. And they like start getting a little bit of, they get like a little skirmish or whatever. And then like they find out, oh, the Marine Corps got here seven months ago. It was fucking Guadalcanal. And the Marine Corps already been there for like seven months. But he thought it was like the moment. So he's like, okay, change of plans.

We're shipping you to a different island. They ship him to New Georgia, which was basically Guadalcanal 2.0. And he fights all through the New Georgia campaign, which was fucking brutal. His platoon gets fucking cut. His battalion gets cut off and surrounded for 30 days straight. No food, no water. He loses like 60 fucking pounds. Comes back, gains weight in the hospital for like two months.

they send him back out, gets surrounded again on the fucking island. Yeah. And comes back, gets fixed up. And then while he's back at Guadalcanal, which is an airfield at this point because the U.S. controls it. And it's like a major hub. They're like, we need people with extensive jungle combat for a top secret mission. And he had like just gotten a letter from back. He got two pieces of letter backdated 14 months.

One was from his parents saying they were getting a divorce and the other one was from his fiancee saying, she was leaving him. He's like, fucking, I guess I'll go. Man, imagine that. At least I got mail today.

Yeah. So like his life. Go out there and kill some people. So he volunteers for it. They don't even tell him what he's doing. There's like, get on the fucking boat. I stick his ass on a boat.

He like goes to a Pacific Island, then a Pacific Island. Then he's in Fuji. Then he's in Australia. yeah, he's like, where the fuck are you guys taking me? Then he winds up in India. Again, imagine somebody from the 19, this dude grew up in. Did they have units or the whole unit's going or he's just?

No, they took volunteer only. So he just volunteered with whoever the fuck else and they were making a new unit. And next thing he knows he's in India, again, dude from the 1940s that grew up in a log cabin in Michigan and you show up in India. He's like, he in his memoirs he talks about like the street vendors and like everybody's poor and begging for money. He's just like, what the fuck is going? on. He's like, they kept putting us on these old-ass trains. The British built a hundred years ago. He's like, I don't know what the fuck is going on. Then they wind up at the Taj Mahal, again, dude that grew up in a log cabin in Michigan. What the fuck? Like, do that be wild? Yeah.

He don't even know. But he never even seen a picture of it. The first time you see the Taj Mahals in person, like, oh, wow, that's cool. All these poor people built that big titty building. This is impressive. Like, wow. So then they end up like training more in jungle warfare. And it was like, what, what exactly was the mission? He's, he was one of the first guys to be a Merrill's Marauder. Have you ever heard of that? No.

Merrill's Marauders would go on to become the 70th Ranger Regiment. Oh, okay. Their first mission was 3,000 guys that had exclusively volunteered were going to walk from India into Burma like 500 fucking miles. through the jungle and then just conduct guerrilla warfare against the Japanese and help out China for I believe they were in combat for seven months straight and their only asset was just go in the jungle fuck with the Japanese whenever you run out of food, water and ammo call us will air drop shit to you and he lived in the fucking jungle for seven months.

Yeah. So it did that and then like the war finally ends and he goes back home and gets to finish college, but it was like, literally just like it goes back to college. Do that walk again, you're walking. Didn't we? They covered, it was like a 30 day. Just if you were nonstop, it takes like 30 days to walk that. Now, I'm, not this.

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We come around the backside and fucking sandwich them, and we're waiting for the Chinese to basically push the Japanese out of this village, and then they're going to fucking mow them down on the way out. Chinese weren't fucking getting it done. And they're like, if the Chinese can't push them back, like we're just sitting here doing nothing. It's like these guys are shooting this way,

pushing these guys into these guys who are going to start shooting. Correct. Nice. Yeah. Ambush. The Chinese. The Chinese weren't getting it done. The Chinese weren't getting it done.

Geometry of fire. So the Nise go out and they like tap the enemy phone lines and find out there's a big ammo dump in this village. So then they called in a fucking airstrike and blew the whole fucking thing up and basically just scrambled everybody and mowed down absolutely everybody. It's it was bad. So then after World War II, he finishes, becomes a preacher for two years and then goes back to college. goes back to college. He comes a preacher for two years. Always.

Then he gets reactivated to go to occupation duty in Japan. And he's like, can I be a chaplain now that I officially have my degree? And they're like, no. And he's like, fuck. So he goes back in his infantry. How much time has transpired from? Like five years. Okay.

So like five years later. From trying to become a priest to killing all these people going back to become a priest. and then well he talks about having to go back to bible school his junior year and he's like yeah i didn't fit in anymore i go yeah i bet it's a bunch of fucking homeschool kids and you've been running around in the fucking jungle for three years murkin dudes what's up fuck heads yeah yeah a little different yeah different perspective on life yeah and uh so then he fucking goes he's on occupation duty in japan and they get a hold of them they're like fucking north koreans attack the South Koreans, grab your shit.

We got to go up there and handle it. Don't bother packing your personal stuff. It'll be like a week. It was not a week. Korean War. Yeah. So he shows up. He's one of the first dudes.

He shows that he's one of the first dudes at the Pusan perimeter, which is like when North Koreans had pushed them all the way down to that little tiny chunk at the bottom. He's there. And he gets sent out on guard duty. And they're like, just defend this perimeter. It's a safe area. Nobody's coming. He gets all his guys.

say he's got one platoon. He gets all his guys set up in like fortified fighting positions and they're just fucking chilling hanging out with the boys. What rank is he now? He is a captain at this point. Okay. So he's a captain. He's in charge of this platoon. And he's like through the field go, it's fucking Korea. You can see 20 miles away. He's on Bino's and he's like, there's a whole fucking formation like a hundred dudes coming towards me. And he's like, he gets on the radio. He's like, I got a hundred dudes coming towards me. Oh, they must be South Koreans. This is a safe area. They look the same. They get closer.

He's like, hey, they're carrying Japanese rifles, which is what the North Koreans are carrying at this point in the war. I know what they look like because I fucking spent five years fighting them. It's a safe. It's a safe area. It's not down. And he goes back and forth with the fucking HQ like five fucking times until they're literally shooting at him. So they start returning fire. He winds up getting shot, runs back to the aid station, gets a fucking tourniquet put on so he doesn't bleed to death, goes back out.

And his, his platoon ends up killing, I think, 400 guys and repelling an attack of 700 dudes. And he gets shot like multiple times, ends up in the hospital. And while he's in the hospital, the standard operating procedure is if you're in the hospital for 60 days, they send your bass back home to America. Day 59, he gets orders to go back out. You're good. That's like, that's an extreme version of your story. Yeah. And that dude, this is funny.

Goes back out, fights through the rest of the fucking Korean war. and then I'm not it's an hour and 20 minute long video so I'm literally hitting you got to go watch it yeah it's not even out yet but it will be by the time this podcast comes out um he fights for the rest of the Korean war goes back writes the fucking handbook on guerrilla warfare tactics and like a bunch of infantry shit at the Pentagon and then he's like I want something different I want to do cool shit he's like I'm sick of walking I want to be airborne he's like 42 when he gets airborne certified and then they're like well you're airborne now you want to be a green beret fuck it why not yeah because a green beret at like 45 and then he finishes out his career by going to vietnam where he

advised lay oceans on how to combat communism for 36 months oh so you see i he's a green beret operating he's basically macfizog i'm assuming live out with the people showing him how to they got the chaplain thing out of his system Oh, no, no. No, then he went on to be the, um, the YMCA, uh, religious life on campus head for Texas A&M for 13 years, went back to being a preacher. God, that his circle. His nickname is the fighting preacher. Is what they called him.

He's got a funny, when he was, uh, when he was at New Georgia that first time. So they get surrounded that first time for like 30 days. He recovers. They go back out again. They get surrounded again. but this time his unit has a couple of like native guides with him and the unit it was all guys that were already previously surrounded so they like knew the game yeah get so like they were literally out there just stealing all the rice that the japanese soldiers had on him after they killed them

and then the natives were being like oh if we use a bark from this tree it tastes like chicken like they were having like fucking master chef competition so you can make the best fried rice eventually they started to run low on ammo so they sent him and one of the guides out by themselves to like probe the enemy line and find a spot they could break out. And him and this guide, Beattie is his name. They go out and they walk right into a fucking ambush get lit up by machine gunfire. And they like fucking high tail it out. They dive into the swamp.

They hide in the swamp for a while until they think they lost him. They get out all covered in mud. Adrenaline is so high. He's like, we need to see if we got shot. He checks Beattie, get all the mud off him. Okay, he wasn't shot. He checks himself. He's got a fucking bullet hole in his helmet.

Didn't hit his head. Fucking went around the world. Didn't hit him. He's got another bullet lodged in the heel of his boot. His wristwatch got shot off. And he has like two more bullet holes in his clothes. Everything fucking missed him. His native guide, indigenous guy, then asked him because he's like functioning as a chaplain to these guys also at the whole house.

So like everybody knows he's very religious. Beattie, the native guy, is like, your God must be really. powerful. And he's like, how can I like worship this God? And he's like, yeah, man. He does this like, except Jesus is your Lord and Savior, blah, blah, blah. Like, you can be a Christian. Yeah, no problem. And he's like, okay. And then they like say a prayer together while they're still behind enemy lines like on the side of the swamp. And as far as this indigenous guy is concerned, he's now a Christian. Oh yeah. Which from his perspective, he now thinks that he's fucking immune to bullets. And he starts fucking singing and dancing loud.

as fuck behind enemy lines and Logan is like bro shut the fuck up it doesn't work that way so he's like created a situation for him if you think about it fucking dude of course he was like you're just indigenous so he's a little Chinese

Chinese or at that time whatever that Pacific Island was yeah just you're covered in mud you're looking at this white dude that just everything missed you're invincible yeah oh my god he has a fair Good God, look at him. Can I also be Christian? Yeah, baptized in the swamp water Holy shit, I feel so good now. Super man. And then he's like running, shooting, comes

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You can't make that up. Well, I love those stories. And again, though, the mindset of that where you don't, you have a. Mission, yeah, but it's a very broad mission. You have to get here. Yeah. And then what? People are going to try to kill you along the way.

You might find random shit or link up with other things and you're just like, I guess. And this is all like 20 year olds. Yeah. That's what's crazy to me. And then it's a 30 day, 60 day. Like how long were they at like the Battle of the Bulge? No, I don't know off the top of my head. You're just freezing.

The bulge was huge though. Yeah. It's massive. Are you talking about the 101st getting surrounded? Yeah. Like when you're cut off and then they're cut off for God. Like, I mean, months at a time sometimes. Fuck that.

Then you have stories like that where it's absolutely crazy. Hey, so you should look into, you were talking about Guadalcanal. Yeah. So our company was Charlie. Oh, really? Which is the company that fought off all the Japanese. Yeah. Henderson.

Yeah. Yeah, so it's like the only company in the Marine Corps that has two guidelines. How does half of that make you feel? Because they, well, you don't, you just by luck end up there. No, I was saying Japanese and Marines. Oh, right. The fuck of you. Inside of Steve, there are two wolves.

One of them thinks it's kind of fucking based. That just went right, right over my head. But that's a but look at you should look into that because that's actually interesting that's an interesting story so that those like with bass alone or with edson's raiders no so the so charlie company gets left alone here and so this is where the Charlie comes in interesting they get surrounded by however i'm not a history buff yeah you can figure it out a lot of people yeah they kill them all They repel the attack.

And then the next day, so Charlie is spelled with a, instead of IE, it's like EY. So it's like a white flag that has a skull and crossbones. And then it says, Charlie. So then they fly this flag. And they repelled the attack and they like kept Guadacanel. Fucking crazy, dude. That's all those stories. I'm just like, what the fuck?

What the fuck? So you got back. You did your thing. And then you're like, well, I'm going to get into Brazilian jih Tijitsu. No, so I got back, got out in 2006, and then I went overseas and worked in Southeast Asia. That's a long story, but my dad was pretty connected in the military and government out there. Okay. And when I got, so I was raised over there, and I was raised in Thailand.

And my dad worked with the military. It's a consultant in that area. So when I got out of the military, there were a lot of opportunities because there's a lot of conflicts in the south of Thailand, Philippines, obviously. There's a lot of shit going on all over the world. So the people that he kind of came up with were now running the country. Oh, shit. Okay. So I had an opportunity to go over there.

And then I worked in that region for almost six years. Nepotism. It's the best. And then, you know, I'd be there probably 10 months out of the year back here a couple months. And one of my friends was like, hey, you should go try this class. Walked in. Did you do any like Thai kickboxing or? Yeah, I actually started that when I was a kid.

Oh, okay. Yeah. That's gangster. Dude, those are, those kids are monsters. Yeah, it's. But when we, so when we were in, this is Marine Corps for you. They would have like, it's called pancreation, but it's basically MMA fights where you don't punch in the head.

Oh yeah, it's like the old Silva Vandrelay. But there's no like head punching. So like Camp Pendleton will just have like, all right, you want to fight? Let's make brackets and everyone could just go fight each other. This is that like bass root and why he did palms and would really good at liver. But here was like no face, like no strikes to the face, not even like. like open. Yeah, have you seen some of the yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, when he's like, they're like

he'll, I mean, you're punching them in the face. Yeah, it's, it's a punch. Yeah. At that point. Uh, but then, you know, I'd, oh, this is great. Sign up and then some fucking dude would take me down and I had no clue what the hell was going on. You probably solve this. I should probably figure this out. I'm good right to tell I'm here. Yeah. I don't know what to do with my lips because they grab everything.

So they have a little bit of that in the Marine Corps martial arts program, but didn't really have like any training. Awesome. And then that's what got you into like Brazil Jiu-Jitsu. You just fully went into that. Well, no. So then I started training and then they're like, hey, you can compete in this. It's like, that's incredible. And then you just, I think it just gives you something. Well, there's a lot of things that are similar to the military inside of jiu-jitsu. Like one, it's hard for everyone. So it's like, it just sucks, right?

There's rank. Yeah. Yeah. You can just look at somebody's uniform and immediately know things about them. Oh, yeah. And me. That is a nice part about the military where it's like, yeah, it's a little, Small wiry dude.

Oh, shit. Little small wiry dudes got multiple bronze stars with V device. All right, never mind. The most dangerous dudes, they always look unassuming. You're like, what do you do? Terry. I can't talk about it. Yeah.

Terry. Yeah. Terry is a great example. Kevin came out here. Kevin's the owner of Q. He made the Honey Badger. He made 300 blackout. He came out here and we did a podcast with him and it was great.

and then we had a party, a pre-range day party for Cody and Brandon's range day. And that party was going on. Eli's like, we got to come back. Me and you were going to film one with Terry. I was like, who the fuck is Terry? And Terry was like one of his friends that was just sitting on the couch watching the whole time is, I don't know, 5-8. Oh, he's 5-6. Five-six short dude, kind of built a little wide, just looked like a normal country boy, like completely unassuming.

I was like, okay, who the fuck is, who the fuck is Terry? He's like, oh, that's the guy that they sent in to save Captain Phillips. Oh, shit. Terry's Oh, all right, yeah Now he's couch surfing Yeah, Terry's Stacks bodies, got it

Hearing him tell those stories were Crazy So he's one of those shooters He was the guy that led the team That Halo jumped into the ocean Got picked up by another ship And then tracked his ship down And then waited for all three pirates

To have their heads in a porthole at the same time. That's crazy. Just woke up from a nap when he killed one and hearing his perspective on like he's like i don't know i was doing special force of shit and i jumped into the ocean got on a boat and the captain of the boat's like all right what are we doing you're the captain of the boat now he's like i don't fucking know i'm gonna the captain of rank it was nothing to me i don't know where the fucking boat is that's incredible and he woke up from the nap he talked about he's like yeah i was waking up from a nap and then walked up like stress and then the guys were like hey um

Shots coming up. Well, that's dead. But that's why, like, our military training is so good. Because you're just, you're just training again. Yeah. It's just real shit flying back at you. All the time. All the time.

It's like nothing changes. Dude, those, uh, so. What? When did you? Did you just fully go into it out the gate or? was just like oh with the competition and then I'm dressing camaraderie you felt no well it's actually funny now because now we have eight schools and we actually have like a company but when I started it was like for me so I never I like I kept going probably because of competition but I never

thought of like I never wanted to teach people it like I never wanted to have a business like I a job which a lot of people I think of the industry don't. So like after actually after I won a world championship at Brown Belt. So do you know the ranking system? Yes. It's like white, blue, purple, brown, black. After that I just like stopped training. No shit.

Yeah, because we lived in like the desert in California. So there wasn't really like higher level guys. I think I was just kind of athletic. I don't think I was really good. And just like, like the fight. So I was like, I'm not going to have a chance as a black belt. A lot of the people, that's what's hard. I forget which.

It's like one of the Shodokon original Japanese guys that brought martial arts to the United States. It was one of his disciples. He just did not have any equals at his gym. And he was fucking talented. But in that area, he was just, he hit Pinnacle. And then he just was having a hard time pushing himself. because all the other guys left. And then he declined without those dudes that would really push him.

And he's like, it sucked that that happened. That's why they came to the United States to have more people. Yeah, but it's so funny though, because like now I think then, like, so even inside of jiu-jitsu, like, so I got my black belt like eight years. And then I just kind of stopped training. And then my brother got me to train with who, who's now my coach. And these guys are like the most legendary brothers in like competitive jujutsu.

But it's not even just about competition. It's actually like the mentality of training. Like I never knew how to train. Yeah. I would just go into the gym and fight every day and like that's how to train. But now like especially being older, if I decide to compete again, like I know how to train, I don't need to have like guys that are equal to me to. to improve. Does that make sense? Yeah. There's like even inside of that it's like even inside of that art, there's a lot of confusion. Like most people don't actually understand it.

And it's a really good point because you can over train people don't think about that even working out. You can just over lift and then your body's like I'll train with you guys and just like not really be in shape but like still beat the shit out of me. Yeah. No, but. But. But. It's like you it's so it's like really it's more about like efficiency. Yeah. Right? Or like being able to survive. So like I can let Nick like literally beat the shit out of me and like I can still keep going. Like I can still survive or like not be submitted. Try to beat the shit out of them until I get tired.

So it's like what's more what's more powerful I can submit you or you can do nothing to me? Yeah. To harm me. I've tried. Which ones. I've tried. Asshole. Just give up.

There's nothing worse than like he's like. He walks into my gym for the first time. He's like, what do you? Like, we do like six minute rounds. He goes, oh, just turn music on. All right, go ahead. Attack me. It's just like me dead 10 minutes later.

Breathing out of every orifice of my body for air test. It doesn't start until you're tired. Like your technique doesn't start until you're tired. So it's like, okay. That's a good way. Who's the other one athlete that says that. It's like I don't count it until the bird. and starts to happen lifting weights.

Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali with pushups. There it is. Yeah. Muhammad. Oh, push up. He doesn't start counting pushups until he's at like at muscle failure or whatever. Yeah.

I mean, well, because at the end of the day you have to, it was actually for fighting. It wasn't for competition. Yeah. So you don't get a timer. Did you get a timer in war?

Yeah. Stop. Pause. Yeah. 16 months. I'm hurt. 16 months. That's that.

That's. I'm hurt. That's been going on for too long now. Let's just take a break. Which actually, didn't they do that in like World War I or? Two. No. When were they like,

All right, guys. Time out. Oh, that was, okay. That's even more fucking wild. Yeah, but even didn't they stop at night or.

Yeah. I mean, there's all these. Celebrated Christmas together. And someone's like, maybe we should just not follow those rules. That would be so unnerving though. like middle of fucking trench warfare and you're like ding ding ding ding time watch me yeah

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Wait, when did he fight? Well, he fought. Bam's last fight was two months ago, months ago? No, dude. It was Saturday night. Oh my God. He won. He better have won.

Knock out. Yeah. And he was facing the other guy that hadn't been. No, 100. Yeah. Another, the champ at the next weight class up. Yeah, because Bam's going up. This is his sack.

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That dude, I'm... So he doesn't fight like a Mexican. He fights like... He's one of the most technical aspect. It's like Lomachenko with power. Yep. Because he's, dude, how he level changes, and then how he sets up his other punches.

Because he is actively looking... Mexican is... He said he goes into the flow state. He's like, I don't even remember knocking these guys out. I cannot wait for him to fight Monster Yeah that's what we're talking about With the weight classes

Yeah we'll see I don't know Because it is how much more weight So I think you'll probably fight I mean that's what he wants to be honest It's a good heyday Yeah I mean it would be Yeah it would be the best It would be the biggest fight in boxing

Which is ironic Considering that he's 118 pounds Yeah But yeah so you want to at 112, 115, just one at 118. Boxing white classes are crazy to make. He's three pounds. That's why you get his pack, yeah.

But then it's like, but then, but it is. So let's say he probably weighs 128 when he fights, right? So he weighs in at 118, weighs 128, weighs 128. But then like, in no way he could come in at 135, like, just come in. I mean, that's a big, like, it is a big difference. It's a huge difference. So, I mean, because Bam's small. I don't think anyone thought he would progress that, like, quickly through the, but he's

26 years old. I don't think he'll fight much longer. He's a, like, knockout power. You have to watch. Yeah, you have to watch. This guy is ridiculous. Dude, I love how he, like, he, fucking, he switched stances too. He's like it.

He switched stances like it. He just makes these guys look stupid. And they're champions. That's something of the most demoralizing thing. I just think it's funny that the boxing guys hired the jiu-jitsu guys for security. That's all I'm saying. I just think that's the funny part to me. Dude, that's fucking crazy.

My coach Daniel, he's huge fan of Bam. Yeah, because he's from San Antonio. Yeah, and Daniel's good boxing. I'm thinking, like, just listening to, like, his interviews, I think the next fight will probably be another 118, another fight. another fight at 118 probably to unify and let them see how it feels and then like you're probably looking at the big one.

It's way more brutal and a lot of people think. They're just like, oh, they're just moving up weight classes. That's how you see world champions fall off because they go to the wrong weight class. And now I'm not as fast. And I rely on my speed. And now where I'm used to being able to move,

I'm getting tagged or age all. so we'll determine you start seeing people find off. Doesn't limb, like, reach start to really play a big advantage to? Like, if you're going, if you're not naturally that high in weight and you start fighting people with a lot longer arms, like I feel like that's what we saw last night with Toporia versus Gagy. Gagy had so much reach every time he tried to come in. He was eating jabs.

And his homie wasn't moving his head. Yeah. Face to fist style. I would agree with that. But, like, you would know just from watching, like, this guy is, different. They don't know where he is. Like the way that he moves is like it's and he's he's always close.

He always finds a way in. He's a slip stance where it's like, hey, I'm over here. Now I'm switching position. So I'm back to orthodox tagging you trying to turn into him. And he is knockout power, which at that way class, that does just get hit. And they're like, uh, he fought. So there's a, he did another big fight in Phoenix. So that's where he won his first.

title so he's been fighting like most of his big fights there but there was another boxer Estrada you remember he was like so he's been the champ for a long time Mexican fighter and Bam fought him when he came up to 115 I think and in in Phoenix and he stopped him I think in the fifth round with like liver shot like writhing in pain on the like but you could see from the get-go it's like this is over yeah Gagey almost got taken out by liver shots. Dude, I actually saw that highlight. I was like, dude.

Did you guys watch the fights? Yeah. Did you watch it? Yeah. So good. It's poetry. Again, no head movement. You couldn't have wrote.

I was talking shit about the UFC card. I still, the card was like, ma' overall, but you couldn't have wrote a better, if you would have wrote that main event, people would have thought it's fiction 100% like five to one underdog American going in against that was that was he five to one five to one five to one underdog no respect going in against a foreigner fighting on American soil on America's 250th birthday and the American goes out there and just beats the piss out of oh okay until he what you make a grand okay nothing crazy the uh yeah

that's funny because it's kind of like the built for war thing right like okay you're going to come out and just stop this guy it's kind of like the strickland thing like oh you're just going to come out and stop him like strickland are like gachs he's been knocked out but not in the first round or second round or no you know it's like maybe in the last second of the fight yeah that was with the max hallway he got close just it just in poor you knocked him out too i think those are the two oh okay But he's in America. Later, yeah. Yeah.

You just got those, the skill levels. And there is where, oh, this fighter can beat this fighter. I didn't see Macachov was like, there's levels to this. Well, you could tell, like, and I was texting Connor the whole time the fight was going on. And I was like, the longer this fight goes, the more in favor of Gagee. Just because, like, this guy's, I don't think he's ever went out of the first round or second round for a fight. And he's going into the third, fourth and fifth round with Gagie, who pretty much exclusive. He lives there.

Yeah, he lives in like deep water. Yeah. Yeah. Like, dude, we're just going to get the shit kicked out of us. One of us is going to. Nice fuel tank. I have a nuclear. Yeah.

Reactor just runs. I text, uh, I text Connor. It was like the third or fourth round when, uh, Toporia took a shot and tried to take down Gagy and Gagy, and Gagy, you can literally look, he takes his shot and Gagy doesn't even move. He just looks down at his waist. is like and then fucking sprawls and makes him eat it i was like this fight's over it's like when well there's two so one is like when connor mcgregor shot on nade diaz yeah you're like okay

this is this is over yeah and then uh when chimae of pool guard yeah didn't he just like uh i have to get this to the round things are not going well i'm going to get down do it the Dang it. Fuck, my brain just. I'm surprised they didn't stop the fight or his coach let him go back in. That was fucking bullshit. It should have been stopped. I was going to be so mad if he lost because of the doctor thing.

Oh, when the doctor, you can fucking hear it. They're like, bring the doctor out. He just said he can't see out of his right eye. They bring the doctor out and you can see the doctor go, fights over.

He can't see out of his right eye. And then the ref comes out and is like, I'm going to let it. go. And even Joe Rogan and DC were being like, well, this is kind of bullshit because they just let him rest for an extra 60 seconds when he was fucked up. And then he came back out super freshly. And I was like, this is the Tim Kennedy fucking scandal all over again. But what do you, but what do you think what do you think that is just bad judgment in the heat of the moment? I think it, I think it was a hundred percent that the ref was under pressure of he did not want the

main event of this historic fucking UFC event to get stopped due to doctor stoppage. Oh, okay. I 100% think that's what it was. But Yeah, you're not allowed to say I can't see. And then they, yeah. Yeah, it's fine. Let him go.

I'm sorry, that's like literally the one thing they're looking for. Can you see? And he's like, can't see anything out of my right eye. Fuck it. He's good to go. Then his face just gets turned in a fucking hamburger. He looked like Jesus from the passion of the Christ. his face was fucking mangled dude you're like oh oh you're going back out as a

like if i was in his corner i'd like dude good job just throw that down there's post-fight interview was hilarious because he's like i knew he's like and you could see it because he had his uh his eye was bleeding first and he's like i knew i was going to win as soon as he started bleeding because and i was watching in the fight too and i I remember seeing it. As soon as he was bleeding, he kept doing this and looking at his glove and then going back to fighting and then doing this. And he did it like 10 times. And he's like, he's like, oh, he doesn't like that.

He's such a pretty boy. He's worried about his face right now. He's like, that's when I knew it was the turning point. I would have been staying on that right side. I'm like, I'm going to work on this side of your body because everything's gone. Just getting punched in the face over and over. It was a good. I mean, that was a war.

and then who are they complaining about for elbows and punches in the back of the head they're like oh because there's a bunch of shit going on right now I don't remember that was a real fight that clip was fucking nasty though man it's just back of the head like seven eight times and they're like they're not stopping the fight I was like I don't know on that one it's always back ahead is a dangerous place to get hit I mean everyone knows that and they were just letting it slide because he didn't even get told stop pretty much right I was watching I didn't think it was yeah I thought it was like kind of the side i mean i thought it was to this area of the head which is fine i mean it's

literally well i don't know what the definition of the back of the head is it's i always thought it was the the triangle right where the spine connects to the bag of the head and i thought he was doing a decent job of avoiding it like i watched it live i didn't think anything was too egregious well i think it was coming this way too right yeah it was coming like it wasn't straight up and down it was like a straight up and down thing which that whole the elbow rules fucking stupid to begin with it's second. Which one? The 12 to 6 elbows. Oh, that it's not allowed.

Yeah. Do you know why? No. Because back in the day when UFC was like brand new and coming up and John McCain was hardcore against it and they were like struggling to let any states even let them hold events. The boxing commission was in charge of like coordinating with them to make the rules for MAA to bring it mainstream. And one of the dudes at the boxing commission who knows, fucking nothing about fighting outside of boxing, went to like a martial arts demonstration

to learn more, which good for him. That makes sense. At least he's trying to learn. I'll give him credit there. But he goes to like a fucking crotty demonstration. And one of these fucking crotty black belts does the fucking 12 to 6 elbow and breaks fucking 15 landscaping bricks with it. And he goes, oh my God.

We can't allow these 12 to 6. elbows. That's where that rule comes from. Imagine he hits a head with the head eyeballs hitting the crowd. I told you guys that was dangerous. The headless corpse as he chugs it off.

Yeah, it's literally where that rule comes from. Insane. Well, it's probably the same as the heavyweight rule, right? Like some of those things probably existed. Like, okay, we have to cut it at 265 because every everything over is too dangerous. What?

That time you were like, you're $100. Yeah. Figure it out. Just don't bite each other. Pretty much yet. Yeah. Back in the day, yeah, you could just, because you could attack the groin at the gate, right?

Yeah, that one dude is just straight up. Yeah. He had caught a submissure. It was just punching him in the dick. That elbows. Well, even horse was like pulling the one was pulling Kimbo's hair and like that one. Yeah. Like got a haircut after that.

Dude, that was back in, man, those old, and old UFC was crazy because it was just, you bring it on Don Fry is one of my favorite podcasts we ever did. Oh, really? Is he, is he in Texas? Arizona. Oh, okay. He was out in Arizona.

And he, but he came out here and he is exactly who you hope he is. He's every bit of who you hope is. It's just slamming whiskey, calling people queers. That's awesome. Dude, that's Don Don. He's like, my wife. have was like dude he's like have the one with the big tits make the drink bro all right yes don't fry we're at brunch we sit down to brunch and eli always orders like

fruity drinks yeah and cody's drinking manmosas which to don fry looks fruity also yeah so cody orders a manmosa eli orders whatever fucking pink fruity drink he gets i'm not drinking at the time and don fry's like talking what are you queer like talking like talking to i like And this little, like, bubbly waitress. And he's like, can I just get burb-you-got, you got bourbon? And she's like, yeah. And then she, like, pulls up her menu and she starts reading off, like, all the craft drinks that have bourbon. He's like, sweetheart, I just, just bourbon.

And she's like, oh, okay. And she, like, goes to walk away. He goes, making a triple. I don't want you to wear your shoes out. She's walking away. He's so funny. Oh, my God. Such a good old boy.

What does you do? Don Frye. He does Don Frye. He's Don Fry. There you go. He's like a legendary character just roaming around the map now. Just being himself. Yeah, 100%.

They just record him just saying quotes now. That's what I need. Yeah, and it works. I mean, his channel's doing quite fine with that. Don't be a... He needs a bobblehead with just like... Yeah, he doesn't push it. Vahed.

Oh, Don Frye. So what is, now, do you like boxing, UFC? What's your favorite shit to watch? Are you just, do you do? Yeah. You're like, eh? No. What do you, any sports you watch?

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Yeah, and more. More. More. More coming soon. Jeez. But it's, but the gym thing is interesting because I think, when you start looking at like like everyone here is fine right so when you think of like martial arts i think there's a misconception of you see like oh jujitsu is good for like us because we're like

strong or athletic and like really it's better for people who are not that yeah right well the probably the biggest like when i started when did you start 21st 2010 okay so about Same period of time. A little different paths. A little bit of training trajectory. But like when you come in, it's like you show up, someone's going to try to kill you. And then if you're, you know, tough enough, you stay. If you're like, oh, maybe this is good for me or, you know, okay, I didn't like that.

So it's not like the environment isn't really set up the right way for the people who probably need it the most. That makes sense. Right. So like I would have never thought to put my, I have three daughters. I would never thought to put them in jujitsu the way that I learned it. Right. Now they do jujitsu twice a week. They also do cheer and whatever other things, but like you will do that.

So I think when we looked at it or when we started, it was like, well, how do you create the environment for those people to be able to benefit from it? Well, that's hard because most of the industry is like talking about steroids. They're like people. It's like it's so not what martial arts is supposed to be. like the Japanese way, right? So it's like kind of this like, it's kind of like a thug, fight sport. It's very much.

It's, I mean, there's obviously different out. Every gym has a different vibe. Affidiation. Yeah, exactly, exactly, right? That's, which is crazy. And then what's funny is like, I was a consumer. Like I said, like I'd never really wanted to teach. And then, uh, so when I started training again,

I'm already a black belt and there's a guy named Salo Hibero. And if you look, this guy is intense and he's insane. But he has such a good way to think. Right. So when I start training, he's like the nicest guy. And then he's like, okay, let's train. So we train. I think it's like there's a timer.

It's like five minutes or whatnot. So I just kind of avoid like the fight. So like this guy's like seven time world champion. like if I survive this is good and survive is like not engage so like the timer ends and he's like keep going he has like crazy voice right it's like keep going like shit no there's no time with it now so eventually like you know mouse be chokes me he's like oh you don't spend a lot of time there huh no actually actually almost not right so then then i start training with him because i'm like okay I'm not learning.

There's something I'm missing in what I was taught. Right. And then for three years, I'm training under this guy. He lives in San Diego. I live like almost three hours away. And every time we train is like no time limit. Basically until he's tired or bored. I don't know, whichever comes first maybe.

But I'm thinking, okay, I'm a, I'm a Brown Belt World Champion. I'll probably be okay. And like, I might as well be you training with him. There's just no, like, it's not even close. So I think that part, I'm like, I remember one day he's like, you think that just because you get your ass kicked, you're getting better. I'm like, yes. I hope.

Why am I here? But inside of that, like, I learned a lot more about, like, they viewed jiu-jitsu as marketing. like they wanted it to change so when you're trying to so we always say like we see something wrong with the industry and want to change it like that's hard so you think oh if I change things for the better people are going to be on board with it no right the opposite of that so it's like it's very time-consuming right that and then I have three kids like I used to love sports then they started teaching me about

politics and I'm like no thanks It's funny enough. And then it's like, yeah, I'll watch it. Like I watch boxing when I'm sitting in ringside watching title fights. That's a different situation. But yeah, at home, I don't. Interesting. I don't really have time for that.

I still like your mindset on martial arts because it is a, when did, like, 1930s or 40s is when it was like... Jiu-tzu? Everything, like the belt system. even because I didn't realize the belt system was that more of American thing. It was like here. It was like the karate kid movie that turned karate. I mean, karate existed prior to that.

But like it was literally the karate kid movie that made martial arts mainstream and like really brought about like the we're going to have 30 separate belts just to make money. Well, if you go back far enough like one, it's Japanese origin. Yeah. So let's like start with that. So it's jiu jihitsu, not Brazilian jiu jiu juts. that's what we teach. Okay. But also like if you go back far enough, like Teddy Roosevelt was a huge thing.

He's learning jujutsu, right? And it wasn't, he wasn't learning Brazilian jiu-jitsu. He was learning jiu-jitsu. Which came from, right? Judo to jiu-jitsu, right? It was like judo then- So it was jujitsu first. Interesting, okay.

Right? And it was basically like, how do you fight without the sword? Because it was the samurai. And there's people that are much. better. I'll destroy the history and all the history busts will call me out of it. I can do it. It's, but it's like really, that's where it started. Now, there's a pretty big Japanese population in Brazil, right? So it goes over there.

Now, around, I want to say around the same time period, judo starts, Jigoro Kano is the founder of Judo. And he's trying to create something that's, they're able to put in the education system. It's like judo is in the education system in Japan. It's part of it, right? So this was educational. And it started with jujitsu and then there's, you know, a couple different types of judo but judo became more standing oriented. And what giigoro cano was saying was, well, you, it's all about efficiency.

And if you want to be good at standup, you can't be good at standup and you go to the ground. It was his part, right? So you have to be smart with how you use your time. That's why for like when we talk about jiu-jitsu, Jiu-Jitsu is about efficiency. So really, the longer the fight, you'll see who's the better practitioner. Right? So you start looking.

So I think judo had its, like the Japanese culture is a lot more geared towards, like, honor. And now it's an Olympic sport. And this is an actual sport. So the ground kind of got ignored a little bit. But then it also ended up in Brazil. And I think a part of it, too, is like socioeconomic. Like if you look in Japan, they have like, like the Kodokan and they have these big academies built for judo and it's something that's part of

the system and there's money a lot of their world country right and then in brazil you have you know smaller places that are packed with people who love what they're doing but there's not enough room to do stand-up like stand-up requires room so if you're all if there's 50 of us crammed in this living room and we're going to train we're not going to all wrestle like nothing's going to happen's too dangerous i think there's a part of it that's that but then also the gracy's did a great job of like branding it and then the ufc and so i think like and the way that they popularized it was like basically going into gyms and beating the shit out of people so i think like some of that mindset like that's why it ended up being what it was it's like this toughness

kind of idea so i think with us it's great because we have people that are like the best in the world some of the best in the world but then we still say like hey the martial arts mentality is important. Like this mindset thing is important. It'd be very different if like we're terrible and nobody could win a match and we're like guys, the fighting part's not as important as like the development is what matters.

So there's like there, but again like a lot of that stuff. I mean, even the industry doesn't provide jobs. Like there's so many things that are wrong with it. That's like we're trying to look at this whole thing and say like, well, how do you change something? It's a, right. Dude, it would be extremely difficult.

As you're saying, even hiring or creating jobs for that because hard salary and now you're basing that off of how many students you have and you're like hey Steve I can pay you X amount to come do this well you can solve so like the economics can be like the economic equation can be solved

oh yeah what I like what I figured out I think with the team is like we have to create the military like there has to be a way that say this and won't come out as well like there needs to be an indoctrination process and then like that's why I cut my hand or

I need them to believe in not being a shit bag before I get yeah you have to like you because it's it's their like what happens when you go to boot camp oh you get fucking demoralized yeah they break you and then they teach you how to like you know

be human in their form and I love martial arts because of that respect thing that's why like the kiddos my kiddos still putting well not riding right and right and's like no thank you daddy I do not want to punch. I'm like, oh, yeah, got it.

But why don't you put them in jiu-zitsu? Ryden's autistic autistic. Like, he does, he will not like, he would be so good. He would not want to make eye contact. You're like, stop. Stop. Yeah, but like, but like what? Chalking you out.

No, no, but like what? Because like, we have a lot of autistic kids that, that train jiu-tzu. He's, so. So it depends on, yeah. Yeah. There's different levels to it. Yeah. There's obviously like, yeah.

That's a level. You can still train. I can still talk to people. I can shower sometimes. But yeah, him is like, but the respect that they learned from is what I loved from when I was young. And that's what I took to the military and then learned that in the military. But it's the one thing I truly appreciate it was that respect. And you're like, okay, walk in, bow, do everything.

Yeah, yeah. Some of those like traditional martial arts. Well, some of those simple things are actually like humility. Yeah. Right? And if you look in the world today, it's like, where do that go? But it's funny that you talk about that though, because there are kids that, like, we do have a lot of kids that are autistic in our programs. And it's, my wife was mentioned it like a couple years ago.

She's like, there's like a significant amount, right? Like much more than you would imagine. But what's funny is there are some kids that like this they would struggle with the conversation and did you see them train? You're like, dude, just keep doing that. Just like, just you know what? And then they get done and they like because everything's for some it's all about like order in a specific way for like repetition for most of them. Right. So it's like you know, it's like you get done.

You shake the hand like you tell your partner to thank you. So they just like mawle some kid. And then they get done. They just like grab their hand like shake. it. The other kids crying. It was like, no, no, we're supposed to follow this process again and again and again. Ryan, okay.

Thank you. No, but it's great. It's great. And like you never know, because isn't it like there's something that gets their attention, right? Oh, yeah. That's what you're looking for. What's the one young guy? He wears glasses.

He's like, I'm autistic. And he's world champion. Oh, Mikey Musamechi. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. For sure, that's who you're thinking of. Yeah.

Small guy, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, I'm just autistic. It's like, yeah. I picture that dude just like, you're awkward. I just think he, that's like, I just want to. Jiu Jitsu.

It's so. It's so embarrassing. Is it? Like, I, yeah. Interesting. It's like that's the guy. Like that's the guy. You're like, we should promote.

This is what we should use to promote. Like that's a market. That's, dude, zero chance. That's the industry's fault. He's the only guy that good. He's the only guy that good, not trying to bang his female students. That's true. That's true.

Yeah. But it's like, that's the thing you want to use to like draw people in. Well, that's like Victor. Like, uh, my partner is not that kind of partner. I know where you want. but he uh but like you've trained with him yeah he's 6 5 260 he's enormous he's like the guy is like the american dream but i came over here and he was 19 years old like lived in the gym like won world championships like no money like figured it out was really hurt wasn't going to be able to go

keep competing like got healthy we started the business now he's a business owner he's made a bunch of money on the mat off the mat but he doesn't like he just lives his life like he's not you know autistic or making you know just doing weird shit he's actually just like helping develop other people like he spent what a week or a few days yeah he's up in for a while like he was on underwhelming podcast with us taught taught kids teaching kids classes teaches all the kids are like His hand is like this like. Bro, he grabbed my collar on my gea.

It was like from here to here, from pinky to index knuckle. Yeah, he's huge. It was insane. When my daughter was, so we've, I've known him, see, almost 10 years now. So my youngest is 10. So when she was little, everything was like, is the Ferris wheel as big as Victor? Oh, wow. I'm like, well, just imagine.

Yeah, I mean, it makes this big. And it's like, it's like, is the airplane is, is the airplane as big as Victor? I'm just a little bigger. I'm just picturing him palming your head. No, it's literally it's like, he's enormous. But he's not, you know,

and it's like he's a difficult matchup for like even the UFC. They just recently had a, they had a, you guys don't do UFC stuff do you? You're not sponsored by UFC or not yet. Go ahead. So they had like, so Victor's normal life,

like just got married, you know, has his, routine, teaches, runs the businesses, develops other athletes. His coach is a world champion also, our coach is a world champion also. And the problem is all these guys that are,

you know, making autistic videos and they're being promoted. Like he just malls them. No shit. So it's not like good promoting. Like I messaged the matchmaker and was like, oh, you have Victor's kids like two guys he submitted fighting on the card and then they won't put him on like he it's hard for him to get matches because it's not it doesn't grab attention and then he's

going to beat you got you right so it's like a difficult but in in his mind or in our mind like the business will be so much bigger than you know the short-term success these guys are going to have making their weird videos right makes sense so it's but the trend but now that's the guy you're going to put as like every you should try jiu-jitsu you might end up like this guy like yeah i think i'll kids and karate. That makes sense. That would be frustrating from the marketing standpoint because you are, it's kind of luck of the draw to.

Like, unfortunately, if you're this Victor skill level and just being able to dominate, but he doesn't really care about how he presents himself on social media. No, it's the opposite. His is like martial arts, like what he's doing. Like it's, it's not positive. Yeah, yeah, exactly. What gets clicks and then what we'll get shares. If you actually went and looked,

because we had a meeting at the beginning of the year where we were talking about not even using Jiu-Jitsu in any of our, like, messaging. Because if you look it up, it's like some dude beating his wife or like, I'm serious, dude. It's like, you know, what's his name's girlfriend? Like some dudes on the run.

It's crazy. Steroids. Like the best person in the world saying, well, if you're not using the steroids, you're cheating. You're cheating yourself. Yeah. Right?

It's like even I've heard that. That's what you want to, that's what you want to be putting out there for, you know, so it's like that's the part that's difficult. And then, you know, so. I have to do this. Do you know the history of Jujitsu? I do not to. You would find it interesting because you're all into Japan. It's if unless it was during the, what it would be.

Samurai. Yeah. So then it would have been judo and. So it was Jiu Jitsu. It was J.U. It was J.U. Not J.I.U. It was Jiu. Jitsu Kaysen. This is not. I haven't validated this to the degree I do with a fat electrician video. So if I fuck this up a little, I'm sorry. This is my current understanding. So samurai basically functioned kind of like feudal nights. Like they just worked for different showguns, right? So between the samurai, there was like that professional, professional understanding of like, hey, me and you were homies. but you serve this shogun, I serve that shogun. We might end up fighting each other one day,

even though we're cool and it's not personal. Right? Oh, okay. Yeah. So there was always that understanding. So a lot of times that samurai, like, went to war with each other, at the end of the battle day, they would go out in the middle of the battlefield and have, like, dinner together.

Because, like, we're off the clock. Well, and also, so I can piggyback, just add into it. One thing I do know, which is fucking wild. Same idea. Like, it's wild to, oh, we're going to. going to have break bread now after we've been fighting all day. They would also, this was more before the 1400s. Was it not Bishuda?

I forget, though, what is it called the fighting style with sword? Whatever. But you would have these armies, like facing off, and then usually it was like, they just challenge one at a time. You would have just two dudes fight one at a time and then kill, and then the next one would go in there and kill, or I'm guessing that's part, of it was. Oh, so it all happened at dinner.

Oh, okay. So like, jiu-jitsu, while they're going to dinner, obviously, like there's a lot of the time there's like the professional courtesy. Like,

I know Cody, we're fighting on different teams, but like, we're going to hang out tonight and we'll go back to work tomorrow. There's also situations where it's like, I know Cody.

I don't fucking like Cody. I kind of want to kill them on the battlefield. And whenever you, so they would go to have dinner. And whenever you go to dinner, it was like the big thing of like, hey, we're off the clock.

If you draw your sword, everybody's going to fucking kill you because we don't do that, right? Like you're breaking the code. So nobody could draw a weapon. So if you had a disagreement or you wanted to get in a fight with somebody over dinner, you would have a wrestling match. And jujitsu and like submissions started to develop under the ideology of, okay, I want to fucking kill Cody. I can't do it right now because everybody else will kill me.

But if me and Cody wrestle tonight and I break his fucking arm, tomorrow when I catch up with him on the battlefield, then I can cut his head off way easier. And that's where like, submissions started to come in. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to maim you right now

so I can fucking kill you tomorrow. And that's kind of how much of that. It's a solid fucking plan. Have the story of the last samurai? No, that's Tom Cruise. We learned, last samurai,

it's weird that we were looking that one up, I think, right? Dude, my samurai is awesome. French, but Tom Cruise is based off of a French. guy instead. Yeah.

Boo. French. Bo. The store is completely different then. There, uh, well, it follows like a lot that happened. Just they were like, well, we'll just put Tom Cruise in a French guy at little bighorn. The French. We.

One of the most famous samurai in Japanese history, he's called the Cowboy Samurai, because he adopted, he would carry. 38. Hell yeah. And a katana. Fuck yeah. So this is 1800. Japanese people want to be cowboys

since the beginning. And the one thing he would wear and cowboy boots. So he'd wear his normal kimono, the garb, and cowboy boots,

leather cowboy boots and that. And they actually... Are you for real? Yeah. Oh, there's a statue. How do you even know? You know anime is in real life,

right? This is... I love the cultural admiration between America and How do he even know that cowboy boots existed? The Americans. He bought that.

Like, so he was the one. He was like, hey, I don't like what's happening right now. We have to, uh, we have to build. Which part did he not like?

Um, he was seeing what was happening over like the colonization. Oh, okay, okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Religion. All that happening. He was against that. So he's like, no. Then he teamed up with the guy that was in charge of the Japanese Navy. the time and they were we should wear cowboy boots it's like yeah like dude we got to get mad drip so the kids like us more sacamoto remor like sacamoto romewra real ma rio ma

that's that shows like an anime it's an anime it's an it's a bad he's just shown a Cowboy beep up. Is it a comic book? There's his statue, his famous statue, and his famous statue is the cowboy boots are on there. Oh my God, he actually has a cowboy boots. Oh, wow. He's the second most famous samurai.

Who's first claim? Miyamoto Musashi. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. The most successful one. Yeah, the one that never died. He died an old man in that time frame. He would accept all the challenges.

This is what lived on the mountain. He wrote an entire book on cutting people's heads off. Is that the guy that used the stick to kill people at first? Yep. Okay. At fucking 12. He was like 13 or 12. Yeah, 13 or 12, he killed that first samurai he killed.

A famous samurai? Yep. Yeah. He picked him up and slammed him on his head and then beat him to death with a stick. Dude, I was expecting. Yeah, I was just listening to it the other day. 12 year old, he, a famous samurai at that time. What were you listening to it on?

someone was telling the story on YouTube oh wow yeah it was uh he was like I want to make a name for myself 12 years old he finds the guy the guy swings at him first and he just dodges it picks him up slams on his head takes a wooden a wooden katana and just beats his head in with it holy shit this kid just did no 12 year olds today are saying they want to make a name for themselves

bring a stick to a sword fight and he did this dude had a poster he was challenging any samurai in the area and so the 12 year old is meyamoto seeing that oh cool I'll do it And the guy's like, fucking kid, what is he going to do? And then he proceeded to crack him in the skull, knock him down, and then bash his head in until it was nothing. And he's like, okay, and left. And then he just continued to do that.

And then his most famous battle with Yojiro was showing up very late. He was like showed up three hours late to this duel. And you got to remember, like, this is old Japan. So respect. Is that why you do this for me? Yes. It's three Miamota throws it off, dude.

It pissed. And that's how we won that fight. Homie was fucking pissed. Because it was a three-hour and homie rose his boat there. And while he's rowing it, he carves one of the oars into a giant boken stick. It makes it even longer because Yojiro used a... That big bat thing.

It was. Like in the dodge... They're choosing their weapon. Yeah. Oh, and he was like, I'm going to use a boat or. And this is his last battle. And this is the most, this is the other, the greatest samurai of that era too. So these are the two best fighters in the world.

It's pound for pound one one versus two. Yeah. And fucking homie killed him with an oar. He's just waited. The level of disrespect on that one. You know what? He wanted to shave. He showed up.

Dude, it's all about respect. fucking pissed because again he pulled up he's like didn't take a shower didn't do the traditional I'm fighting for my life he was just a scrub like I'm gonna rage this guy and he was like you're fucking late did a day he's like okay and then he's even more pissed because he has a wooden boat this is crazy he moves to the side and just wax the dude as hard as he can in the head and then one more time it kills him and then just bounces out it gets back on his boat oars back to his little home and then I'm gonna ascend into yeah and that was his 60th to he did 60 or 64 battles to the death that's

crazy was that one the the one where the guys students were centering around watching too and they just watched them get beat to fucking death that yep yep I like I get asked all the time like are you ever going to run out of stories for your channel and have to quit I was like no like I might have to expand outside of America but I'm definitely not running that stories I could look into bro like I went down like Vlad the Impaler Radical the other day That dude fuck shit I'm trying to find this guy

The guy that Dracula is based on Oh wow Yeah it's just like That's hilarious There was a plastic model gun kit Three assassins came in And his wife's like Do you hear it?

He was staying out in Tokyo Or whatever was called at that Edo And he actually used the fucking Pissonser pop, pop, and they're like, what the fuck?

Yeah, because he was like, I'm a sore, but it's all closed. Well, I could just shoot people. It's way easier. It's on air dice.

I fucking love that shit. Write it on your tombstone. You never run out of history stories. You should like shit like that. But tell like Vlad, Cody, if you want a savage, Vlad the impaler.

It's literally just like, the Ottomans are coming with a map. massive army to kill us in Vlad, basically the king or whatever of his area is like, I'll fucking handle it. I know how to handle this. He goes out kills 30,000 Ottomans and then impales them in a fucking, basically makes a forest of corpses. Right in the booty.

Impaled. Wait. Yes. He learned impelling in prison right when he was lucky. How did he, how did he go about this? He fucking killed a bunch of people with his army. Oh, okay. And then...

How many people were in his army? They were, like, vastly outnumbered. But like, fuck tactics. They won like this victory and then just took all the corpses and impaled them along the road that the rest of the Ottomans would have to fucking come through. So, like, you're going to walk through a forest of all your dead friends if you want to come fuck with me again. And it's like, damn, dude.

That's what that army... The psychological warfare is real. Yeah. That's what happened. The next army. That's why armies are like, yo, we're not invading them. Like, fuck, no. Because one of them went over that hill

and it was just 30,000 impaled people just as far as I can see and you're like, oh, I'm not... Yeah, we're good. We'll go the long way. How much we didn't pay? I'll go around.

We don't need this. We'll just put an X right here. Didn't find anything worth value actually in that part of the world. Bad some of the people didn't die right away either. That's the fucked up part. If it didn't go completely through you or not through your heart,

they'd be alive for a couple days. Just strap some more. waits to the ranch. That was probably intentional. Yeah. That's demoralizing. So it was, as a teenager, Vlad was held by the Ottoman Empire as a political hostage during that time period. That's how he learned how the Ottoman military culture and the harsh punishments.

So that's how he learned impaling, which is why it was that fuck them up because they're like, oh, shit, he's doing. Oh, wow, we're assholes. we do this usually oh god but yeah and then Dracula that's that's the man that came wait so how did it turn into Dracula that's just the inspiration for Dracula

god I wanted one of my favorite quotes ever is this photo just that old art me that's incredible you just eaten a piece of pizza and some beer right there on the table dude get back to impaling his real face

I don't like I mean, she's like, chopping off and body parts. One of my, I don't even know who said it, but like one of my favorite quotes of all time is what makes you different is what makes you dangerous. There's a thousand kings called the Great.

There's only one king called the impaler. Like that goes hard actually. Fucking terrible. Oh, man. Cody, how you been, buddy? What you've been up into? Super duper, not much, man. I like your new merch.

Oh, thank you so much. Crime is fun. I've been doing a lot of that. We're going to two episodes a week. A lot of the crime or? Yeah, man. I do like crime history, kind of like how he does military history now.

And then, uh, he said, it came out different. He was like, crime is fun. I've been doing a lot of it. I mean,

I bet it is. Well, yeah, like, so my main channel, I do body camera footage. So when I run out of footage, I go out and find homeless people and I get them LSD.

Yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like the cops veins are made a copper. I'll get my hatchet It's fucking great footage There was some short I saw I don't know if I sent it to you or not

But this dude is just walking around With a wheelbarrel Full of handles of like cheap vodka With machetes duct tape to him And just handing it to homeless people Around What a patriot dude, man He's making so much content for me

It's outstanding All the homeless people are Thank you so much man Is that chaotic good or chaotic evil you're giving stuff away they get a handle and a machete it's literally a handle a vodka with a

like a shitty Walmart machete duct tape to it he's just walking or handing him to homeless people on the side of the street pretty great he always leaves before the fighting starts chaotic he's fucking bullshit I said he always leaves before the fighting starts it's bullshit

he needs to monetize that quickly. Remember bum fights back in the day? That's what I'm saying, man. Stick around a little bit, you know, add a paywall and then machete fights. Funny is troll-marked a all time when they brought him on Dr. Phil. Oh, yeah, the bum fights guy.

Yeah. Yeah. You know bum fights? I know bum fights. They brought the dude that did that on Dr. Phil. Okay. To talk about it. And he walks in dressed like Dr. Phil and he even shaved this part of his head bald

with a mustache. And Dr. Phil's just like, just get out. He goes, why? He goes, get out. He goes, I do the same thing you do. I bring people in bad circumstances on and I record it to make fun of them. I'm no, you're no better than me. That's the best.

And like Dr. Phil kicks him off the show. It's insane. Wait, it got recorded. Oh, yeah. It was like an episode. Yeah. You can pull it up on YouTube today. It's like, it's a top tier troll moment.

What are some of the stories you're working? recently done. We released UFC fights today to go inside with the fight that was last night. Yeah. Well, yeah, the ball fights too. What about them? Just UFC guys who have gone to prison. Oh, that's a good one.

There's no shortage. Yeah. What's his name? You could go into jihitsu guys next. That's true, too. There's a lot of those. What's one of your favorite new ones you've done? We went over what's his name that chased the guy in his truck and shot him because he actually assaulted his daughter.

He just got the guy that just got released in February. He got paroled out. He's the one that's trying to run for. Wait. No, no. I talked about that one too, though. That's coming out next week. Next week is vengeance stories.

So yeah, that guy ran for sheriff and he's fucking, he's about to win. He's going to the general in November. What was the background story with that one? This one, he called a guy who was trying to get a 14-year-old daughter and ended up smoking the dude shot him. like I think 16 out of 18 times. He fired at him. And so he goes to jail for a little bit. And they let him out on technicality,

like mishandled evidence or something like that. And he ran for sheriff and he fucking won in the town that he's in. It's a good story. We need to get him on here. Oh, yeah. Oh, I think I can't remember where he lives. Yeah. It's not a, it's such a text story.

It's a feel good story. Oh, dude, it's so good. And I would love to get him on here and talk to him, though. We were talking about it on kind of consensual stuff just like this. I think that I think that juries should be allowed to issue a new verdict. Like you've got guilty, innocent, and I think the third verdict should be kind of fucking based. We're like, we know what he did was wrong, but also I like that shit. Broke some laws, but it was right.

Yeah. What he did was right, but he broke some laws. There's something. The end of the day. No tears are shit. This is the good kind of bad. We'll allow it. Imagine the emotional damage.

He has to. He killed somebody. Yeah, it was, his name's Aaron Spencer. It's out of Arkansas. That sounds right. He just won the GOP nomination over a three-term incumbent sheriff. Oh. Whose office had arrested him on murder charges.

The people have spoken. Yeah. I wonder what that sheriff's thinking now. He's like, fuck. He's coming for me. Yeah. Oh, man. So what's the one?

Wait, that's not, that's different from the UFC guys. Yeah, that's different from the UFC. I'm talking about a, no, no, that's not the UFC. And that's the one coming out next week. I was just talking about vengeance stuff. The UFC got, what was his name, Velasquette? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was just about him.

That's one of the stories I talked about today. Also based. Yeah, chase a guy down and was shooting at his truck across like three counties. Yeah. What happened? What is he in jail right now? I think he's out of it. out February.

He's got out. Okay. So he's out now. Good. With his family again. God, that's a hard motherfucker. Yeah.

What are you thinking? I'm be honest. Imagine the balls on that. Although. Like, yeah. World heavyweight champions kid. Yeah.

Probably didn't think that far into it. I've. He's just, yeah. It's just another. I mean. Oh yeah. It was with Kane.

It was his four year old son at a daycare. Dude. Oh, yeah. fucking ongoing nuclear. But what ended up fucking him up to is he probably wouldn't have had such a long sentence, but the dude of his kid had his mom and dad or stepmom and stepdad in the car with him. So his parents got called up in the chase in the shooting and then the stepdad ended up getting shot two or three times.

So it became attempted murder. Yeah. So it wasn't just the peddough in the car. The first attempted murder would have been okay. Yeah, it probably would have turned out. So he needs patience. He's going to be alone sometime. Yeah, the stepfather was struck back on fire.

Yeah. Damn. How long was he in jail? He wasn't, a couple years, I think. God damn. Imagine being that guy's stepdad.

You received a five-year sentence. The shit your step kid got you into. What's happening? Oh, the world. One of the greatest heavyweight fighters of all time is chasing us with a gun. Why? Great.

Well, I don't know. Why is he so mad at you? I can't tell you right now. Fuck yeah, he only did 11 months got a five-year sentence and did 11 months and paroled out in California It's been going on for a while, right?

Yes, it's been going on for a minute. Yeah, the trial lasts a fucking forever. Yeah, I didn't know about the other dude getting shot. Yeah, the step-down. That had nothing to do with it that got shot, so that was the big thing in that one. Dude, what the fuck? Also, what the fuck?

This is when I found out from Demetrius with our mutual guy we both know, and it was that he had been arrested for CP and we're like, wait, what the fuck? I was like, get the fuck out of here. He's like, yeah, shit, you're not. You know he's in jail right now? This is a mutual friend I grew up with great, like great home, came from everything,

and then had terabytes of CP. Yeah. And I didn't know. I was like, oh, yeah, we just knew each other, which also extremely wild that. Immediately started distancing yourself. Oh, he was in. Joe. Demetri is the one

that, yeah, that's what? He was like, have you heard? I was like, about what? And he was like, brough, bro. I was like, get the fuck out of here. I text the friend group that all from that small Indiana town and they're like they didn't know. And then they were because they all grew up together.

So it was fucking weird seeing that shit. Especially when it's a nice home. There's weird people out there. What are some of the other UFC? There's this Russian guy. He fought in like one UFC fight. And he ended up going crazy and robbing mobile phone stores. And then he went to the crazy house and escaped from prison for beating someone up. And he went to the Polish border. I think it was Poland. And they tried to arrest him. And he started

they found out he had a bunch of Nazi tattoos. And he started screaming, I'm not a nationalist. I'm a racist. And so they arrested him again. And then he got out and got this group of dudes together that didn't like prostitutes and they would go to brothels and beat the fuck out of people and it was it's a it's weird and he spent like two years beating the shit out of people like pimps and and people who go to brothels and yeah man people that went to see prostitutes he didn't like any um there's all bad yeah it was bad so he's in jail now yeah he's in jail now and he might be out now have you looked into uh lee murray um why do i know that man what did he do he was the guy that knocked out Tito Ortiz

in a bar fight? Yes. A British guy? He's in this one. The one we're released today. Oh, okay. Okay. What's his story? It's actually kind of funny. So he's a... He was like a gangster criminal. Yeah, he ended up, he did a heist.

Yeah, like the biggest heist in history. It was like 30-something million dollars. Holy shit. He's half Moroccan. They're like he's half in Morocco So he fled to He fled there Yeah

So then they're having parties Now they're they get away with the crime They're in Morocco Correct me if I'm wrong I made this They're having all these parties The neighbors call The authorities that they're gay

Which is illegal Yeah he stole 53 million pounds It made it back to Morocco Which is non-extradition Yeah no extradition And then it's like And then, yeah, hey, there's, there's some gay people next door. Partied a little too hard.

And then... What are they doing? Gay shit. Watching it is that so mad. I didn't know that part. That's hilarious, though. I looked into it. I didn't see that these dudes are just being almost next door.

You got to look into this. But yeah, he went, so the Moroccan government ended up arresting in 2010. Send us them to 10 years. How do you get caught? I got to find that. But yeah, he ended up trying to escape prison and got 25 years. So he's still in fucking jail.

I just picture them like, they're just rolling. He bought a UFC and then he had like visa problems, you know. He was like stabbed. Like the guy's story is crazy. Yeah, he got stabbed in the heart before his robbery. And he lived. They ended up. Howlough?

He was not. in the heart. He got stabbed in the heart. I don't fucking know. It's weird. How the fuck do you live from that? The, uh, this is a puncture,

small puncture. Oh, that, wasn't that bad. But he famously knocks out Tito Ortiz in a bar fight after, uh, outside, after like a UFC.

No shit. Yeah, Matt Hughes or somebody, somebody talks about it. And not, I'm gonna have to look. Is there a clip of it or just, no,

no, it's just a story. My favorite thing right now is watching Tito Ortiz. Speak. Oh, thank you. You watch that contest? Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's, yeah, it's unbelievable. You guys know what we're talking about. The fact that they give him a microphone and they're like, you know, you should interview fighters. Parent should outlive their kids. It's like, you're like, what, Tito? You can't even remember the things he says. No, because I want to outlive my children. It's like the biggest quote on there.

You've done it again against Andro Oloski in three minutes and 34 seconds. Let me tell you how you're feeling right now. I stay in shape, man. I stay in shape. I eat well. You know, I don't drink alcohol that murder when I was in my 20. I take care of myself now. Now it's about my kids, you know, I want to live.

I want to outlive my children. It's course, man. Of course. Or is it just yourself and Chuck? Well, it is just to be myself and Chuck? Buddy, on Saturday night, those little blue eyes are going to be sparkling even more, man. Just wait and watch. Just wait and watch.

This is my kingdom. And on Saturday night, I'm going to roar. Some jackals like this guy, Joe. The pee, sarnan. He sounds like biting. You know, lastly, Chuck feels like he stole your thunder and this is sour grapes from you. Like, uh, it's personal because you're jealous of him.

How does hearing that out of his mouth fall on your ears? Jealous like him. This guy can't even put a plain sentence together, man. Are you kidding me right now? He's reaching for, he's reaching for those grapes. He's trying to make his wine. and the wine's already signing like a violin

with that cheese and wine Tom what is it? It never stops. It's every single time they put a microphone in front of them.

And the best is Chuck Liddell anytime they're on screen together when Tito's talking just watch Chuck's face. Chuck's like he's like, yeah, he's actually trying to understand him.

I only took one. or two shots to the face. I still think. It's probably Chuck's fault. That's why he's like, yeah. That's why Brandon isn't with us right now. He said Chuck called him at 2 a.m. the other night. He's like, come to the fight, movie.

It's like, okay. I guess. I'll get on a plane, Chuck. Oh, okay. Do you know the Pat Militage story? I don't know. You know what Pat Militj is? Yeah.

It's like OG, like one of the first, I think it was like the first MMA jam down in Davenport, Iowa or whatever. He's got this crazy story about how he had like, I don't know if he had a fighter, if he was coaching fighters, but they'd won this fight. And it was like in Davenport when he was trying to do like, you, MMA leagues where it was like you had a team and you had a lightweight, a lightweight, a light, heavyweight, a heavyweight.

And it was like this team versus this team. Yeah, a duel. Yeah, basically. But wasn't that called something like IFL or? I think it was IFL. Yeah. So he was doing, he was doing that. And it was in.

the Quad Cities, Davenport. So he's like a legend. Everybody knows who he is at this point in time. And they go out to the club after the fights. And some dude wants to go outside with Pat Militage. And Pat Militage is like, he's a big dude, but he's an unassuming guy, relatively speaking. And Pat's like, uh, fucking sure, dude. And he goes outside with this guy.

And the other guy then proceeds to tell him, do you know who I am? And Pat Militage is like, uh, no. And he goes, I'm Pat Militig. Oh, that's the best. And Pat pulls out his driver's license and hands it to him. And the guy looks at it and fucking frisbee's at one direction and runs the other direction. I have been caught. Damn it.

The odds of that. The best compliment you could possibly receive. Do you know who I am? Oh, shit. I hope he chases that and not me. Dude, well, we can move on to the after show if you boys are ready. Sure. Do a quick one.

Well, first off, where do the people find you? It's the same thing. Just whatever the fuck we want to talk about. Oh, is that the pepperbox thing? More slurs, yeah. Ah, okay. All the slurs. Where do the people find you?

TFI experience is our website, Instagram, and then I didn't know it, but it's Steve Hargett underscore TFI on Instagram. Perfect. And then those are your main. And you're going to, we're going to train. And we're going to train. We're going to try and we're going to try. We're too close to each other to not make that happen. I'm 100% down for that.

We can do a crime as fun episode. Hey. Let's go fight the homeless. Those are walk-in montages. They're just leaning and they're running up, punching them in the face. We're jujitsuing the homeless in hazmat suits so we don't get. hepatitis. Seriously.

Cody. Close this out, you beautiful son, bitch. Thank you guys for joining the unsubscribe podcast. I was joined

today by Eli double-tap. Nick the fat electrician, Steve Hargott, myself Donut Operator. Thank you so much for being here.

Okay, bye. M-W.