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Episode Date: March 1, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 He's optimistic and what's the favorite slur right now go. Penis. That's not a slur. Oh, shit. Did you do war? No. Worse. You look like Netflix, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:00:09 The podcast is ruined. Mission accomplish. Say Eli. He's racially ambiguous. Brandon. His hair is fucking fabulous. Donut. A dark joke disposition.
Starting point is 00:00:28 And there's a fat electrician. Welcome to unsubscribe. You can try it if you don't like it I'll finish it for you It's magnesium potassium So it hydrate is at the same time On the count of three We will pop these tops
Starting point is 00:00:42 Three two one What were you gonna ask me about Bushlight? I was gonna ask you your opinion On Bushlight Apple Or Bush Apple whatever it is It's like okay As like a novelty thing If you want to drink like
Starting point is 00:00:59 One or two beers casually But like it's not something that if I was like, I'm going drinking with the boys, get me an 18 rack of bush apple. No, absolutely not. Yeah, I feel like that's a, that's a safe answer. You might have just offended the entire Midwest if you said he didn't like it, period. It's not that I don't like it. It's just like, it's not like you can drink fucking 20 bushlights and you're fine.
Starting point is 00:01:22 As one does. Yeah, it's fine. Dude, it's water. Calm down. Like, you have any bushlights it takes to get hammered? No, but I know that you do. I don't know that I do. Tonight, unsubscribe.
Starting point is 00:01:37 We get Nick shit. How many? Okay, we brought the other two Iowa influencers for junkyard digs and pewv you on and we did more than a 30 rack in two hours. It was quite impressive. I know, it was a table's worth. And I wasn't like belligerently drunk.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Before we get too far, I did Cody's job last time. Do you want to do it this time? No, this is anyone that sits in that's not my job. I'm not doing this fucking job. You're a representative. You're running. to be a representative. Represent Cody. Where's that? Whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I resign already. I resign. Now, somebody takes Cody's job. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined here today by Eli Double Tap. Cody Alfred, myself, Donut Operator, and Brandon Berberba.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Thank you. Thank you. I've been told when I do Cody's job, it's too nasally. Oh, good. Hi, everyone. I said your last name right, right? It's close. awful, yeah. Oh, my bad.
Starting point is 00:02:33 It's all good. Damn it. I tried. You get my first one right. Oh, that's good. Yeah. I can spell that one. Hell yeah. I'm fucking smart one in this year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, welcome, bro. We've had, I mean, we've known each other for a few years now. I think everyone
Starting point is 00:02:51 has met you or talked to you in some capacity for the last couple of years. Yeah, definitely recently. I think we just met at range day. Yeah. We met on an escalator at range day. We did. And I didn't want to be that guy that like fanboys. I'm like, I've seen you on the internet. Nice to meet you. Me and you had the Spider-Man moment of like,
Starting point is 00:03:08 hi, we're both busy. I got to go. Yeah. We had the, we had like the, I know who you are. We shook hands. I know it's like, that was it. I'm doing shit, but I'm familiar with your game. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Your name's not familiar, but your Fez is. And we've been in contact online for a few years actually. Yeah. Yeah, man. And what's really rad is like I always, I was like to tell the internet world like, you know, seeing people's personas on the internet and then getting to like know behind the scenes. Like that's one of the things. Like that's one of the things.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I first asked is like, oh, hey, thanks you messaged me back in the day or I shot you a message. I'm like, did I respond? Was I a dick? You know, like, those are like the first two things. So then I'll know what era of life I was in. And, you know, you've always responded back and always been super kind. And, you know, this, the community of veterans, influencers is a weird name. But the veterans with a voice, right?
Starting point is 00:03:52 The veterans that choose to bring up and not bring down, it's, it's not a lot. It's not the, uh, the norm, you know? And so like, I've always like appreciated that. And it's nice to see because our own eats our own. And there's so many young men and women that watch us. And it's not our generation that's going to suffer. It's these young kids that are looking up for role models in their life. And they see like, you don't have to have stupid videos.
Starting point is 00:04:16 You can just have stupid conversations. And you know, like you can just be bros and reals. And that's what the world's lacking in authenticity. So I appreciate all the conversations we have had. So the internet's watching. Like they are real people. And I'm super humble to be here. And I'm super great.
Starting point is 00:04:30 It was even sicker is like the cross-pollination of like social media followers. Like, oh, when you're going to get on unsubscribe? I'm like, dude, I think I'm going on it. Like, tomorrow. Like, I think it's happening. This has been way too positive so far right out the gate. Oh, yeah. Say a slur.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Yeah. Shit. Like, I have plenty of them. I got to warm up. He's like, he's like, whoa, okay. He's going hard. Right out of the gate. You got to wrap up the engines.
Starting point is 00:04:56 You can't just cold start this shit. It's me. Yeah. And we also talk Lots of shit I'm here for it I'm all about the shit talking Dude you're so you're former Marines
Starting point is 00:05:07 If you want to tell the audience A little bit about yourself that Don't know Because I mean we all know But you have a stellar career And you were in for For a little bit too Yeah
Starting point is 00:05:19 Just over 15 years Yeah Almost 16 Yeah so I joined the Marine Corps in 2003 Selfishly I just want to be a scout sniper How old are you? I'm 40 God I look like shit
Starting point is 00:05:28 Holy shit Yeah dude Dude, you look great. Damn. I look horrible. I look older than you do, dude. It's like, I've worked really hard to live as stress-free as possible, right? It's like in the military, right?
Starting point is 00:05:41 Bad job choice before. Yeah, bad job choice before, dude. I want to avoid stress. Marine Corps. Well, I didn't know about stress. I didn't know the word stress, anxiety, depression. Those words didn't exist in my childhood, you know. And so I enlisted in 03 and I was a scout sniper, force reconnaissance Marine,
Starting point is 00:05:58 then Marine Special Operations Command. started. So I started that. I'm a plank owner of that for the West Coast. And then I, yeah, I retired in 2018. I came back from my last deployment. I was the SOTA North Special Operations Task Force, Senior Listed Advisor. And so I came back from that deployment that I spent the whole time watching like Kill TV, like the wall of TVs. And it was actually my greatest deployment because I got to do exactly what we all said when we were the lower echelon guys. Like, man, I wish people just like took care of us and looked out for us and I got to be that guy and you know, Fifer dudes and it's great. And anytime I could yell at an officer and like not care,
Starting point is 00:06:36 A, being a master sergeant, they can't do anything to me. B, I was 245 pounds of like pure just awesomeness, you know, sex appeal. They're not doing it. And I'm Jewish. So it's like they can't like hate on me, right? Because I'm just like, are you fucking anti-Semi bro? Like what the fuck's what's going on? You get to pull out that card. You like, well, well. You take off your small Mitch. Yeah. You know, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Jesus Christ, do you like? I actually had a Yamika. My first deployment was Flujia Iraq. And so I'm 18 years old. And I didn't, I grew up Jewish. But once my grandmother passed away, we did like Christmas. And like, I never did a bomb mitzvina and that stuff. And so like, ethnically not like.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Blood. Yeah. My blood is from that origin, right? And so on my first deployment, the chaplain comes over and he's like, hey, I heard you're Jewish. And he brought me a Passover kid. I'm like, what's a Passover? kit. But all I knew it was... I genuinely don't know what is a Passover kit. So it was like all like kosher meals. So it had like
Starting point is 00:07:33 juices and like it had like a beef stew. I'm like eating like shitty MREs. I'm like I get you're telling me. That's for me? And so it was sick of it. And inside this kit it was like a little like gift box. Inside this kit was a white Yamika. And so I'm like, oh bro, the Iraqis are going to love this shit. So I like put on this like you just taught an entire generation of enlisted guys how to game the system though. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, you get back. Better food. All the Iraqis are terrified.
Starting point is 00:07:59 That's the JTAC for the space laser. Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm like wearing this yam gun around helmet. So like it's like this beautiful white turns to like nasty brown and black and I'm going on patrols and I come back and dude my juice is gone. My beast is gone. I'm so pissed bro. I got raided.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Do Marines are locust, right? Like if you have anything good that's different than what they have, it's gone. You know? Grab the Jew kit. Oh yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 So that was that. But I was able, so my last deployment, I came back and I was having a bunch of, like, telltale signs of, I was breezing over. My first deployment, I took a round to the helmet on my very first day in Fallujah. I got shot in the helmet. Jesus. In my very first gunfight before noon, March. So not very good at it. March 26, 2004.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Yeah, took a round, yeah. I'm like, oh, you sucked. There was no respawn. It was kind of weird, right? It's kind of like, Eli, what you always say is like, yeah, I got the bat at my job award. Yeah. Should have zigged instead of X. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:56 From the game. Marks, Mr. Bad. Yeah, there you go. From the get-go, right? Like, the day just halfway started. And then, you know, there's seven months of that, you know. So that was fun to be appointment on a sniper team. And the first thing that turns a corner is my head.
Starting point is 00:09:08 So I'm, like, always trying to, like, present my body to give them more something to shoot at because I'm like, I've already taken around. And at the time, we didn't really have, like, gear supplies. So, like, I'm walking around the same helmet with a hole in it for, like, a couple weeks until. No shit. That's the most marine thing, I think I've ever heard. And it wrote, did it ride the ridge around? It just. Or did it just stop?
Starting point is 00:09:26 It just penetrated the top lip and then it just stops. It like it bowed in on the inside. And knock your ass down though. Oh, yeah. It was super crazy. I'm kind of breezing over that too. But it's like I had this crazy out of body experience. I remember so we were inside the second floor building.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And my sniper team was ahead of the entire battalion, how a sniper team is supposed to be used, eyes and ears of a battalion. And so on a sniper team back in day, there's four guys. So we had my sniper, my team leader, my assistant team leader, both have a bolt gun, sniper rifle. Then the radio operator myself being the point man have a. have a M16, right, the musket. And so... With iron sights at this time?
Starting point is 00:10:01 We had ACOCs. We were the only guys that hit ACGs. We actually filled the ACGs on that deployment. They started issuing it out to the Marines. You know, this is like back in the day where we were the only ones that had radios and seven bravos. And then the Grunts had like one Paranite vision for like 12 guys, one radio for... And it's a monocle.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Oh, we felt they got one eye with one eye. It was a two into one seven bravo where like, is that a car, a building, a dead body? or dust, definitely, rectangular. I'm not really sure what that is, right? It was all Marines were just doing a potato sack race. They're just sharing the monocle. Which is why a veteran with a sign had to raw dog the donkey story.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Yeah. Just pure moonlight. Dude, when we would get, when we got to Iraq, I remember going Chowall finally and then talking and seeing Marines was like, why y'all got fucking M16A? Toos. With the triangular handguards. Like, what do you mean? Like,
Starting point is 00:10:56 Brave. Huh, wow. Yeah, so we had brave like they had a choice. I know, we get paid the same. And then you look at Air Force, you're like, we get paid the same.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Get paid the same, better shit. Yeah, we actually had A4s on my deployment. And then I remember seeing like my first M4 in like combat, like in the real world. I'm like, bro, can I hold you your gun?
Starting point is 00:11:17 Like, that's how like, like, googly eye I was. I'm like, I'm here walking with this like musket, right? When the man with the rifle goes down to one with the ammo picks up the rifle, continue some fire. And it was, it was just, it was fun, bro.
Starting point is 00:11:28 You're 18 and you don't know anything. And then I found out really fast how quick life was. So I mean, this, this, this guy in the black man jam. I run across this, across this rooftop. And I just start shooting. And so I'm dumping now, but now we're taking machine gun fire. So like my two snipers are like sprawled down on the ground because they can't really interact. They got a pistol and a bolt gun with five rounds, right?
Starting point is 00:11:50 And I'm shooting. I run out of ammo. My radio operators on the other side of the window. pops out to shoot and I'm reloading. As soon as I reload, I pop out through the window and it's like lights out. And I still remember to this day the like oxygen getting sucked out of my life.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Like all the air getting knocked out of me. And then if you guys ever played a video game where you got too close to a wall and like glitched and you saw like a top down view so I had this like crazy out of body experience. And this is 18 years old bro. I don't know shit from shit. Hey Ontario.
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Starting point is 00:12:57 I didn't do anything in school. You know, I was just waiting to go to the military. So it was like all these things of like what I wasn't going to get to experience. Like love, you know, sex, you know, steak again. Like this shit that was in my future that wasn't even real yet. And I ended up getting the typical story. You hear this like white light.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Dude, I literally get sucked back into my body. And I wake up in the prone position convulsing. And my assistant team leader is on the prom. And he's kicking me. So my convulsing was actually him shaking my body vigorously. He's like, are you fucking dead? We just say it blood. Like are you fucking dead?
Starting point is 00:13:30 I'm like, I'm like crying and laughing at the same time. I don't know shit from. And they're like, get on the radio. Call for backup. My body fell by our only radio because it's by the window. And so you know how like we talk on transmission?
Starting point is 00:13:43 It's like, hey, how's it going? Break. So I'm going to go do this later break. I'm like, War, Hammer, break. This is break. Grimp, Reaper, break. Like every two words was a break.
Starting point is 00:13:52 It was like the most fucked up comms. And needless to say, like, we got to hold of nobody. And so we're like, we got to get the fuck out of here. So we crawl out this room, get down to the bottom floor, set up comms again. I'm still appointment. So now I'm like in that rear security watching the breach point, the front of the store. And I see all these heads walk by this window. I'm like, oh my God, they're coming.
Starting point is 00:14:10 You know, they're coming to like see their kill. And it's this unfinished building. You know how like unlike America, right? There's no like loans here. So when money stops there, they stop destruction. Right? So they're in an unfinished building. And I see this shadow come walking by.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And I'm a scared shitless. I'm in this little bathroom. My buddy's trying to set up the radio. My heart is pounding through my chest. I'm like, dizzy. I'm crying still. I don't know anything. And I see this head.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I just like muzzle thumped this motherfucker. Because I got to like see what's going on. And muzzle thump one guy. This guy, he didn't have a gun as this older dude. And then one guy turns into like six guys just coming to her house. So like instead of them like letting them walk by, we're like grabbing them and bringing the bin. So like my snipers have them all like gunpoint with.
Starting point is 00:14:52 their pistols and shit. They're like, we're gonna get the fuck out of here. You know, it was like, it was like a scene from the office like, like, what the fuck do we do now? Yeah, what the fuck do we do now? And so then we're like, let's hotwire a car. So we go out there and we don't know what the fuck we're doing. So we break a window and apparently you can't just break a window and there's the keys don't aren't magically there. It's like, we're like, we're gonna heart wire a car. Oh yeah, that was done this. Yeah. We'll figure out. We'll figure it out. Thinkly it's not stressful right now. Yeah. All of our years in business on the internet, we've all used Shopify. I've used it for merch and my skate shop and a couple other businesses. I will actually agree 100% on that. Everything we do is run through Shopify. Even bunkers run through Shopify. Our shoes, which is a separate company, is run through Shopify and they talk together
Starting point is 00:15:41 because of Shopify. Shopify runs the world. Did you know Shopify will actually help you design a website also, Cody? I know I didn't know about starting an online store when I started my career online and Shopify just made it super super easy for my dumb brand. Bring it what happens if people haven't heard about my brand though. That's actually easy, Eli.
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Starting point is 00:17:13 They're like, yeah, well, we were shooting at that building and that building. We were in that building. And so at the time, there was a lot of speculation that I got shot by 556. And so I don't really care what I got shot by because at the end of the day, my helmet saved my life.
Starting point is 00:17:26 If it was 556, what a blessing for a green tip to not go through my helmet. Green tip being armor piercing, obviously. And I'm just so grateful, but that was like the beginning of it and it didn't even end there. So I linked up with the Grumpletoon.
Starting point is 00:17:39 They gave me, linked me up with a cormon. I get a mochran in a cigarette. And then my Delta Force is doing a cordon down the road. They're like, hey, sniper security support outside. by these railroad tracks, I'm like, so I'm on point, dragging my gun and my assistant team leader come up to me. And he's like, this is when people were built different. He's like, pick up your
Starting point is 00:17:58 fucking rifle. I'm like, oh my God. So I'm like, okay, you know, I'm not a robot at this point, but like I need encouragement to like kind of survive because I don't really know where I'm at. We get down to our sniper position and I just, I'm by the railroad tracks. It's like you can pass out now. And so I just passed down these railroad tracks until like the op was over. I remember the, it was like the APCs or the striper position. striker vehicles. I remember the striker vehicles come up to the objective, Cadd Desert shit, and then it's like, I'm out. I get woken up, and I ended up getting pulled out that night. My platoon commander, he's like, hey, I'm going to send you back to the
Starting point is 00:18:32 rear to get checked out. I'm like, I'm not going anywhere. I'm staying here. And he's like, listen, we're only setting up mortars tonight. We're all pulling out tomorrow morning. You have my word. You're going back tonight. So I go back and sure everyone pulled out. So basically as far as excuses go for leaving the op, getting shot in the head, pretty good. I would But you know, it was crazy. There was a lot of guys. There was a lot of Marines shot. Like, there was, I forget his name, but like the two assholes because he got on OIF one, he got shot cheek to cheek. So on the fluidia deployment in OIF2, cheek to cheek. So he got like double tap both deployments all through the ass. I don't know how that happened. And so there's a lot of guys
Starting point is 00:19:09 just literally walking wounded like dead guy, dead service members, dead fighters, wounded fighters, wounded Marines, that was a very common thing in a very short 24-hour period. And so we ended up pulling out of Fallujah for a week. They come up with a game plan, then we go in, and that was when, like, really all the, just the horrible stories you kind of hear of, like, the brutalities of war. That's really all kind of kicked off.
Starting point is 00:19:30 But this deployment that I talked about, my last rotation in 2016, I saw a lot of tell-tale signs of, like, just my TBI catching up. I was constantly tired. I was always taking these little ranger naps and shit, and I was super, I was stressed eat Oreos. My wife would send me these, like, amazing
Starting point is 00:19:45 care packages and it was like, you know those like seasonal Oreos, like whatever flavors. And like she made these like mason jar cakes. So I like share with my homies and like, but then I'm like, wait, I can dip this in this frosting. And that was like my stracy. When I'm waiting for this nerd in Arizona to like turn a predator 180 degrees to destroy a target, I'm like, he's not turning it fast enough. You know, or like I'm yelling at a fucking lieutenant colonel who's too scared to wake up a major at the siege of soda for the sedative, right?
Starting point is 00:20:15 these higher echelons of strategic, you know, operations because the general sleeping right now, I'm like, bitch, wake his ass up, bro. Like, are you're that much of a, like, and I saw so much bureaucratic red tape, you know, I was, it was super terrifying. And, you know, people say like, well, that's why I don't promote. Well, you don't promote because you're f***ing selfish, right? Like, you don't promote because you like comfort. But then when someone gets in charge you that you don't like, that's your own fucking fault, right? And, you know, I promoted very fast. I was actually, I picked a mass sergeant of 10-a-half years. So I promoted extremely fast. in my community and taking over a company was a very big like it was a big deal you know there's only
Starting point is 00:20:51 16 company company operations chiefs in marslock at any given time and once you do that position like once you take out four teams and country i mean you're kind of a made man unless you fuck up you know and i was managing every seal every green beret every marine raider both in iraq uh jordan and lebanon at the time so it was a very big operation yeah and like you know i looked a certain way so i already had this like counter stigma against me. But that was my whole Marine Corps career. And so it was just like, it was great to be able to shine, but not to shine for Cody, but to shine for like my people because, you know, I always looked up to the good leaders and the bad leaders in the military. I'm like, I'm never doing what that bitch did. You know, I'm going to use that next time I have to
Starting point is 00:21:32 give a ass chewing, right? Because it was just like, it impacted me in a positive way. And the military is already so toxic and everyone's already so serious. I'm like, why are we doing this, right and when I saw how these officers that are in charge of lives were more concerned with their face value to their higher superior it really like um it's just disgust to me bro so like I just completely came unhinged and I gave that deployment everything I had I came back and they're like hey I want you be an opt chief again I'm like fuck you dude like I'm done and I didn't really know why I was done my attitude was kind of going south and uh I thought I was a good Marine like I always took care of the guys and girls, but like I was, I was just kind of toasted from it all.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And I'm like, this. I've never taken care of myself. I'm finally going to do it. So I ended up taking over a position at our schoolhouse, our Marine Raider Training Center. And I get, I get this orders to go to. It's called Intrepid Spirit. You guys probably heard of that. We call it the pseudo-tbi clinic, but it's really all-encompassing for everything.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Is it during, you know, can you have this while you're in service? It's absolutely while you're in service, yeah. So most guys and girls, when they get out. So like, I think they do like even people that deal with like amputations and stuff like that, right? Absolutely. There's rehab. There's all sorts of different therapies and modalities there. And but generally what happens, unfortunately is like guys and girls when they're retiring, they'll go there for their two week mandatory thing.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Get all their stuff like, you know, identified in the medical record. Then they retire. But when you do that, bro, as you guys know, like once you're a civilian, no one gives a fuck about you. You know, so like I always tell guys like you got to, you got to give a fuck about you while you're active duty because you have front of line privileges. You know, you get, no other time can you walk into a, to an aid station, be like, hey, I need to see the dentist and the fucking neurosurgeon, right? You can't do that as a civilian. You're dealing with the bureaucracy of the forgery that exists. And the hard part is, while you're in, though, a lot of the time it was frowned upon to go to the age station.
Starting point is 00:23:23 And that sucks. And you're like, that's awesome to hear your leadership. It's like, that's a fuck up right there. These guys are screwed once they get out without this being track record. I mean, once you got shot, you didn't even get to go to the aid station, right? No, I went to the wrong one. So, dude, it was mission two, and then it was wrong aid station. We went back.
Starting point is 00:23:42 We went to Charlie Companies because we had just, we lost two guys that day. So Bravo Company, we're all like scrambling. You went to, you went to an out-of-network provider in military. I walked over and I'm like, hey, I needed to see a medic or something. And they're like, oh, what the fuck? Are you even with us? I was like, no, I'm with Beko. What the fuck are you doing?
Starting point is 00:24:02 Well, I got shot. Oh, my God. Sit down. of, go here. And then they sent me to another aid station. That aid station wasn't even part of our brigade. So then they patch me up. And then I'm on a mission the very next day.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I was like, oh, cool. Here's what we're doing. It's only leaking a little. It's just the bruise all the way around my leg. My buddy Kodoka, I've told the story where he got shot in the head on third mission. Or we're just pulling security. And he just draws, boom, sits up. He's like, oh, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Bullet rode the ridge of the helmet kicked out. A-okay. Insane. Yeah, that's all I was like, did it stop or did it actually ride the ridge around? We seen it go through one goggle. He had to wear them, I think, half through the deployment. Didn't get a trade those out. But they did let him keep it when he got out.
Starting point is 00:24:56 That's, that's, yeah. Yeah, it's so nuts. I do this like, go ahead. Yours had to be like a direct impact if it didn't. It was direct, yeah. There was a lot of cases on that deployment where it would ride the ridge. It would go in and kind of skirt the guts of the helmet and come out or the skirt the skeleton and come out the other side of the skin, you know, but not pierced the skull itself. The Army soldier had really good accuracy.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Oh, bro. It was a green. So like that only headshots, you know, like only head shots. Well, they did have acogs. I was saying some ball knowledge there. It's an indoor boot camp, bro, 500 yards with iron sights, bro. You know, like, that's every Marine, no matter their job, they can shoot 500 yards of iron sights. I don't know, they still do iron sights.
Starting point is 00:25:40 They could do optics now in boot camp potentially, but I mean, I'm a cook. I can shoot you and kill you at 500 yards. I'm a grunt. I can shoot you and kill you at 500 yards with multiple shots. Like, that's this most savage thing about the Marine Corps. So like, whoever that was, good, friendly or foe, bro, they were like, I'm getting headshots today, dude. They're trying to level up and get that prestige on their gun. It was a really white terrorist.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Yeah. The gold tiger stripe came out and all that. Why is this fucking guy's head right there? What an idiot. I'm like, how am I supposed to see? Like, I'm what I'm supposed to do my job? Well, a lot of people too, they think like, you know, armor being rated to a certain, you know, oh, it's this caliber.
Starting point is 00:26:18 It's supposed to, you know, it'll stop the bullet, you know, blah, blah, blah. They don't realize, okay, no, it'll keep you alive. Yeah. But you're going to get fucked up. Like even body armor, I mean, let alone helmets. I mean, that's an entirely different ballpark because, again, you're dealing with like TBIs and stuff like that. It's crazy. work. Yeah, it's crazy too because like, so throughout my career, like I progressed from the
Starting point is 00:26:38 infantry, which is the backbone of the Marine Corps, the fuck is the most savage people, force recon, Marsok. And then like, as I progressed through these different jobs, everyone's like helmets, ball caps, nothing. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you guys, dude? They're like, and everyone's like looking cool. I'm like, man, you guys look sick as shit, but you're an idiot. I'm always wearing my helmet, bro. Like I, I mean, to be fair, once been twice shot. You're going to be the drippiest corpse. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I was terrified to not wear my helmet. Like, if there was ever a lesson, like, that's my wooby blanket, dude.
Starting point is 00:27:09 It was like my security blanket. I needed that thing, you know, and then my armor got smaller and smaller. I'm like, oh, I don't need these extra large plates. 255 pounds. I need to move faster. Give me these medium ones, you know? Like, it's just covering my kill box. The heart plate.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah. My muscles will stop the bullets. Dude, honestly, that was my mindset. I'm like, I'm going to be the biggest, baddest motherfucker, Marsock. And if, you know, if I would go to a door and I was to take shots, I want to be able to push through the threshold so I don't fucking caused a, you know, a disaster that doorway, you know. And that was my mindset. Not saying it was, you know, I never got to do that. Thank goodness. You know, you know, but that was my mindset. I think it's a lot of mindset. We all have to have to have to be the baddest motherfucker in your world
Starting point is 00:27:48 to do a job that there's only one thing that matters. Are you going to do it or are you not going to do it? Well, I mean, even doing Mar-Sox a wild, because how many years did it take you to accomplish that and go through all the training and the school? So that started in. So Marsock started in late 2006, if you're on the, I think, on the East Coast and like 2007 on the West Coast. And I actually just got, I got back from my second infantry deployment. We did Operation Still Curtain, which is a really big endeavor. And I'm like, dude, carrying all these like heavy as shit. I want like light guns and packs.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And I'm going to go try out for force. And so I tried out for Force recon. And I was actually coming back from Airborne School. And I got back. And they were like, we're no longer Force. We are now Marines Special Operations. British's battalion. I'm like, what does that mean? They're like, everyone, stop growing, stop shaving your, your faces and stop getting haircuts and wear civilian clothes. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:28:43 what the fuck? Are you serious? Where am I? And they're like, we're going to give you guys cards. And if anyone has any issues, you tell them to call the number in the back. I'm like, bro, this is sick as dude. Like, winning. That lasted like two days, right? A little bit longer in the two days, but definitely not a weekend. It went straight back to like Gestapo. Oh, they let you taste it. They, they're like, freedom. You will eat the cat poop, you know? It's like you want a ham sandwich on Survivor. It's like this could be really cool for 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Yeah, they definitely pulled a like Houdini on us, you know, and. I just thought the government of my mindset. It's like, this is going to be around for years to come three days later. Yeah, we need you to shave. For the Marines having the like the, I don't know, the general consensus that they're slow to change. I feel like they change shit like that all the time. where they're like, well, now we're getting rid of tanks. Also, we're getting rid of the scout sniper program, but not really.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's going to be named something else and kind of functional a different, but they're still going to have snipers, but kind of sort of not the same. And then like what you're saying, like, did they go back on the tanks thing? I don't think so. It didn't. They got rid of their tanks. Yeah, because one of the boys that, you know, works for me at the shop was a former Marine tanker guy.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Yeah. And he was very butt hurt as soon as he was. Last I knew, yeah, the Marine Corps doesn't have tanks anymore. The sniper thing was so stupid. I actually was fortunate enough to speak. at the last Scal Sniper graduation in East Coast. And it was like a really big honor, you know. And I heard rumors, I don't know if it's true or not,
Starting point is 00:30:10 but I heard rumors that the general was a like a lower ranking officer at the time when those Marines, when they remember when they pissed him the dead Taliban and stuff like that. Yeah. And so like he was like butt hurt from that, you know, that disgracing this. I'm like, but then I'll go back to like the history of World War II and the Marine Raiders and the Marines out there like,
Starting point is 00:30:28 no shaves. Well, Cody, because they didn't have water. Well, bitch, I was in Iraq with no water and you made us shit. You know, like, so... I don't know if you've seen Japan in the areas around it. It's surrounded by water. You know, like, dudes wearing, like, ear necklaces.
Starting point is 00:30:40 It's like, what do you expect? You're taking a bunch of, like, normal people and you're putting them in completely abnormal situations and you want me to play rules of engagement. I mean, look at the painted Japanese skulls, for example. Trophy skulls. Have you seen those? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Like, the pictures that wives would take with the skulls that their husbands would send them of dudes they killed. Like, they're, like, posing with it. Like, back in the 1940s, when it was like, it was a hassle to get a picture taken. And they're like going to a photographer, like posing, like, look at the guy that tried to kill my husband and he killed him instead. Like, it's fucking crazy.
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Starting point is 00:33:03 Wait a second. Are those white socks? Hey, you piece of shit. That's why you're dying out there. Literally verbatim. Verbatim. You know why you guys are dying out there? Actually verbatim.
Starting point is 00:33:12 You know why you guys are dying out there? Because you're wearing white socks. You're fissioning me. So the Marine Corps has this rank called First Sergeant. And First Sergeant's the Marine Corps are like officers in the military. It's 50-50. It's really hit or miss, right? Enlisted men can be molded and groomed.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Officers are just groomed. That's really, yeah. They're just groomed from the get-go. and that's okay, right? But first sergeants, especially in the special operations community, they're not organic to that organization, so they come from the big Marine Corps. And how Marsuk is,
Starting point is 00:33:42 Marsac's one of the most amazing units of Marine Corps has to offer from our support enabler and obviously our team guy and girl staff. And they're just so capable, but the problem is is we hamstring ourselves. And so they bring in these outside entities that are like, I'm going to make a name for myself because everyone's trying to,
Starting point is 00:33:59 everybody wants to be the general staff. Everybody wants to go to that next level where guys and girls in the job, they're really concerned with, yeah, they want to promote, they want to progress, but they really cared about the mission and the men, right?
Starting point is 00:34:08 Like, what they're there for. And when you get these first charges in there, I remember being in a firefight, and I was in Mars, like I was being a firefighted on my second Afghan deployment, and we're on this hilltop, and I was at this place called Fod Robinson, and that was like the O.K.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Keral, everyone came out to Fod Rob to get their combat action ribbon because we were always shooting. Like, it was always happening. And our command leadership came out there, and they're like, you boys need a gunfight, We just like obviously not talk on the radio.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Like, all right, they're gonna just, they're gonna come up here eventually, but we don't have to like speed this process up. And so they ended up coming up there and they're like, did you boys call this in as a tick? And we're like, fuck no, man. This is a little skirmish, bro. Tick being a troop in contact, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:34:45 they would actually just trying to get their cab. Yep, dude. And so what happened was they're like, and this is verbatim, did you gotta just call this in as a tick? Therefore, they would rate a combat action ribbon, right? Cause it'd be an actual, you know, you know, notified. I'm like, no, this is a skirmish, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And he's like, he was pissed. Then he looked down at my sleeve. And so on my pocket sleeve, I had a radar patch. He literally tapped it and flicked it. He's like, no unit patches. And then they left. They don't care about you. It's just a job for them, but this is a whole another fucking world for us.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You know, like, and that's the problem I see in like the warfighter community. It's like, why are we here? Why do you train me to say, die, motherfucker, die, butta, but a jam, you know, stabbing things with a freaking K-bar. on the end of your rifle, you're training me to literally be a fucking killer. But then you say, hey, but I need to be a tap dancer on this deployment. Funny thing about Fallujah, there is, Felujah was the craziest, scariest experience I've ever endured in my life. Traumatizing, I've never seen more death and destruction.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Like so many fucking bodies, I've seen ancient bodies fly up from the sky from bombs, dies eaten by dogs, like stacks of human bodies, just decaying in the streets. Like, it was fucking insane, right? And what's funny is before we went on that deployment, we're actually training for this thing called Saso. I believe it stands for security and stability operations, basically like martial law. And so we're training for this like, Halt, who goes there?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Where's your ID at? I'm the sergeant of the guards. You know, like this like super generic TV stigma of what a military person is. And that's what we're training for. Then we go to hell's kitchen and we're like, oh my God. You know, it's essentially like, if it has a pulse and a gun, It's dying, right?
Starting point is 00:36:32 Like it's like it's free game. I don't think he's going to give me his ID. Yeah, I don't think he's going to play nice, you know? And it's just... It was the scariest part was that mindset and that train up to it's like, yeah, we're going to pull in vehicles. You're going to search them one by one. Oh, now they're just created V-bits. And now they're just blowing up as they roll in.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Okay, now we're just going to hand this off to the AIA. Yeah, you know it's stupid when the people you're fighting are like, they're so dumb. I'm just going to walk from my house, wave at them, to this book. where all the cachets at because I know they're not going to kill me. And then when I get to my cachet, I'm going to go kill them. And like, we literally will watch this. And it's just like, why am I here? I know they're bad. I've stalked them. I have pictures of them, right? But they don't have a gun in their hands right now. But I know as soon as I lose sight in five seconds, they're behind that bush where I'll lose contact because they'll hit the trench. Next thing, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:22 I'm taking rockets and RPGs and machine gun in like a matter of moments. And I think it's a great example, too, of what people talk about now and, like, in regards to, like, you know, the United States versus, like, let's say, China or Russia, where the United States doesn't do things militarily, because of political will or, like, oh, we're holding ourselves back. Other people don't do it because they can't. It's like, China's not taking Taiwan because they can't. Russia's not taking Ukraine because they can't. Like all the, all the people on Twitter that are like, so if I'm understanding this, this means that, uh, if Trump can just go kidnap Maduro, then technically Vladimir Putin can just go kidnap Zelensky. And it's like he's been trying for four years. What are we talking about? Yeah. He physically can't. They've been doing like tried.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Dumb spy versus spy shit trying to do that exact thing. Like it's physically are incapable. Whereas the United States is like the thing we're held back by is we've made our own rules arbitrarily for our people. We could if we wanted to. If we wanted to right or wrong. I mean, I mean, you got to all in lease. Everyone's on a leash Marines.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Everything. It's like, And it sucks because when you're actually in war or just going back to with bad officers. It's crazy. The missions they will, the predicaments, they will put soldiers in just to get a medal. Bro, it is the metal, dude. How many men do you lose? Oh, that's a silver star.
Starting point is 00:38:44 A night raid up a river. They will do a mission based off a fucking river raid just to get a silver star. That is a fact. What? That is a fact. Oh, dude. Oh, yeah. You, the fastest you learn how.
Starting point is 00:38:56 expendable you are and no one gives it is being in the military and being like the front lines it's like trying to hit an achievement in a video game yeah well i mean the the example that comes to like literally like oh we could this level could be harder if you want to and we'll give you fucking bonus points on your xbox score like that's literally what it is the example that comes to mind is like the very end of world war one where like there was a ceasefire agreed to like all the terms of surrender were already put in place it's like okay nothing we do now will matter when it comes to diplomacy or the reason we're here. But we're going to do one more fucking push anyway.
Starting point is 00:39:31 It's like how many 19 year old kids fucking died because some general wanted to make a name for himself. That's it, man. I remember it was that same second Afghan deployment. There was, anytime they're like, hey, there's a company up coming down. You know you're fucked. Right. Like, you know you're fucked.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And this whole deployment, the team that I was attached to, we're just doing disruptive operations. So our whole mission was a flying with 160th, you know, set up ambush site. in the Taliban's backyard and just literally pick fights why the commandos would come in because commandos, the Afghan commandos and the Marine commandos were too much shit and it was like losing that that face value
Starting point is 00:40:07 of like Afghans, fucking up Afghans. So they like how can we de-escalate that? How can we not put them in a kinetic situation? And so they would put us in the kinetic situation. So when the command of the Afghan commandos came in, it was like, hey, like we're here to help reinforce your village, bring stability, blah, blah, blah, blah, and you know, create it like a militia.
Starting point is 00:40:24 And so that's what they did. but that was our whole mission was just a fight. And they were like, all right, there's a company mission coming off and we're already doing pretty crazy, hilarious shit, like in literally like out where the only bad guys live.
Starting point is 00:40:38 So there's no IEDs because we're in their backyard. And no paperwork. Yeah, no paperwork. That's just right there. And they're like, they're like, all right,
Starting point is 00:40:45 you guys are going to patrol. So the commandos just came in. You guys are going to patrol behind the commandos. And in three days, we're going to resupply you with ammo and water. And then you're going to go to this bridge. We're going to be on the other side. Then you're going to walk across the bridge.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And when you get across the bridge, then our EOD tech is going to go across and then blow it up. I'm like, just blow it up now. Like, why are we doing this? Why? And then why the fuck would I walk behind? Like, why would I walk behind an already advancing force, which is already technically proven and tactically proven where they're already emplacing like IEDs and fighting positions and booby traps? Right?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Because they're like, let's go see what happened here. Why would I go do that? And luckily, I had a team commuting. Commander Matt Manukian, unfortunately, he was killed by, he was murdered with an insider threat on the next deployment. But he was a team commander actually was. If you don't mind back, an insider threat? Insider threat. So basically what happens in the special operations community, we work a lot with our partner force. So in Afghanistan, we work with the Afghan National Army and the Afghan Special Forces in the Afghan Commandos. Well, in certain aspects, we give them
Starting point is 00:41:51 access to our operations center. We give them access to like our joint buildings and facilities because we're by with and through with our partner force. You're building relationships with the country. And so what happens was one of the commanders came in with Afghan and like killed three of our Marines with 1911 and then ran out in. That happened numerous times, multiple bases, but that's also the problem that you have when you give us more rules that I can't, that I can't even adapt because you're not on the ground. It's literally the scene from Blackhawk down where it's easy for you to say being, you know, how many square miles up in the sky. You know, it's unforgiving down here. You know, there's always someone who doesn't know what the dust tastes like when it's mixed with blood and like that dry, like dehydrated spit that are calling the shots.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And that's okay. We all have a place in the pecking order in our roles of responsibilities. But like, you know, if you have a business and business is going good or business is not going good, are you not going to go see and investigate what's actually happening, the ground truth? And there's just such a disconnection because it is a political war. It's really war is a fucking shame in the first place. It's a political war. And then it's a, it's this self-merit, self-looking ice cream cone. You know, like there's, I remember I've worked every tactical position and like joint billet.
Starting point is 00:43:06 And I remember being at the siege of sort of, which is a combined joint special operations task force. And that's a mixture of like army, air force, navy, Marines, like all the special operations guys and girls. And there's like these majors in there and lieutenant colonels like, I hope I don't get another bronze star for this deployment. I already have six of them. I'm really hoping for a Maritorious Service Medal. What? They don't have ice cream in the child hall today? I'm like,
Starting point is 00:43:28 shut up, you bitch. Like, what? Where's the V device? Yeah, this is what you're complaining about, dude? Like, you're living in a la la-la land. There's dudes and chicks out on the battlefield, bro, like hoping that someone picks up the radio when they need you. Like hoping there's an air asset available
Starting point is 00:43:44 that's not doing a resupply run for Otis Spunkmire cookies for you. You know, like there's multiple wars taking place. but at the same time it's really easy to talk shit that's okay bro because we thrive in like straight up chaos and shitty out situations and that's what gives us our resiliency and it gives us that that
Starting point is 00:44:04 ability to like find a way you know you mold really quick in that I think that's where when you're always the tip of the spirit that's when you're a unit your battalion wherever you are you get ingrained in it so quickly that's you get through that danger period because I'm sure you have that same
Starting point is 00:44:21 Like, hey, first X amount of days until you figure out what works and what doesn't. Once you find out what works, every time. Then you try to, we talk with Brandon on it. It's you train up the next. You don't get to train up the next unit for your A.O. You're kind of like, hey, we call this the death blossom. If you get blown up or anything, just shoot everything. You're going to have new patches.
Starting point is 00:44:45 They're going to test you. Just trust us on that one. And then they don't listen. And they lose a lot of people. And it's like, did you try that yet? No, we were told not to. Why were they telling them not to? Just every command, it's almost like, it's almost like every commander that goes out there.
Starting point is 00:45:03 This is not generic because I've worked with a lot of amazing Marine Corps officers. I've worked a lot of Navy Special Warfare officers and Army Special Forces officers. So like there's clearly a really good majority of amazing ones out there. But there's also a lot of ones out there that are trying to win the war and terror in their six-month block and do it their way. And another thing too is like, if you're coming to replace me and I give you advice, you have to be pretty, if I say, hey, man, you're looking like you're having a hard time in life. Have you ever thought about just taking like a day or two once a week just to like take care of yourself? You have to be pretty open to do that. You know, you have to like be humble. Dude, especially in war. That'd be a wild. Dude, that is a crazy statement to hear of like, you should take a day off. We didn't have that. I don't know. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm just saying like in like to hear that advice, you'd have to be like kind of. Open to it.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah. God damn. Ah. Turnicant. I've been watching you put your drink on that ledge. Thank you. I do. Since minute one, I've been like, oh, it is all over.
Starting point is 00:46:02 You should run for Congress. I am horrifically so. I've given up. This is like a, as soon as we're done with the podcast, I'm going back to the hotel. Come back to the beginning of every one of our views of us just eyeballing. Not Brandon. I was looking at you. I've been eyeballing that drink for two podcasts now.
Starting point is 00:46:20 It's it there is standing water. I'm in my tank. I'm in my assistance. Do you want my assistants? Do you want my assistants right now? I can I can help. I I get gay chicken qualified so I can't I can't help. I'm willing to try anything twice. Dude, there's some reasons you definitely do not want to play gay chicken but dude. God. That's don't don't thread me with B.A.H. Oh my God. That drink was just I just see that stem sticking up. I'm like, Brandon is playing a dangerous game right now. We were out of the small ones that didn't have the stem. The stem was, I will admit, that was dangerous. Hindsight being 2020, probably shouldn't have pulled that move, but...
Starting point is 00:47:05 Yeah, you decided to play it on a hardcore mode. This is going too well. I should elevate the liquid above a very small base. Listen here. On the rounded carpet couch. Look, country girls make do, all right? Oh my God Well that was right up there with this incident
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah No that is nothing on that Immediately I'm just like well I'll see you on the fucking subreddit Come So what are you up to now Oh you know Just How did you blow up on the internet?
Starting point is 00:47:38 How did you blow up on the internet These are my favorite stories Because we all have ridiculous stories of how we ended up here I You are wet Brandon Pete himself. Yeah, I peed up. I did the tucking. Yeah, you had a tug.
Starting point is 00:47:53 God, that was all of it. Oh, no. Now Brandon smells like Jack. For the first time ever, Brandon smells like Jack and Coke. The wet front. Dirty wet fronts. His ass is totally wet. Your gooch is totally decimated.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Your gooch is decimated. You're definitely sterile down there. sterile, but I would he call it sanitized? Yeah, I wasn't joking. I felt it pooling in my face. Bro, geez, hammered right. You got, Jesus. The entire thing.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Brandon Herrera. It gets completely soaked, throws the podcast off the rails immediately. I need a towel and another Jack and Coke. And then said that, it's going right back up on the fucking eye deck. It can't happen twice.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah. That worked out on the podcast. table last night. Let me tell you. He lost three hands and then puts all of his chips in and goes, statistically I can't lose this many times in a row. Loses everything. I looked you in the eyes. I'm like, I can't be wrong three times.
Starting point is 00:49:04 He was wrong with the time. You're going to learn today. I'm sorry to interrupt. What are you up to, brother? Oh, you know, just looking at your wet pants. Yeah, it's pretty Yeah Chasing Drooms I don't want
Starting point is 00:49:19 Oh it's back It's on my balls now You gonna sit on Let's just Stuff the towel down there That's it Like a diaper You're running for what now
Starting point is 00:49:29 You should go You should go You should take off the clothes You should take off a clothes And put a robe on For the rest of the podcast I might Like honestly
Starting point is 00:49:38 That's the fuck That's the part I'm not even like I'm not even drunk I love that Nolan's been walking around In just a robe Oh
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Starting point is 00:50:16 He was walking through the Venetian shopping area, like the mall, in just a robe and flip-flops. Yes. like a fucking massage this morning. We just wouldn't get caught. Really? In robes? Yeah. You both walk out of this room in robes?
Starting point is 00:50:28 No, I just put a video on, but he went in robe, no shirt, and flipblops. And like shorts, so he looked like he was naked. And all the biggest... You were the whore. Yeah, all the different guys were like, wide-eyed walking us walk, like, who look these people? Do you have a spare robe?
Starting point is 00:50:42 Huh? Do you have one? Do you have one? Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Do you like a mouthful of hard wood?
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Starting point is 00:52:02 I'm not black and disabled. Is this what you saw after you got shot in the head? Pushing you back in your body. You can't go, my child. It's not time yet. You say Fuse? No, hey Seuss. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Yeah. That would be very confusing. It's not your time yet. I'll see you in a couple years on a podcast. Yeah. Yes, you will. There you are. You have spoken.
Starting point is 00:52:29 This is actually kind of red. You look good. I'm so embarrassed right now. It's like, cool. That had to happen on this episode. That totally won't go to front of the podcast. Don't worry. You definitely,
Starting point is 00:52:43 that's definitely not an attention gainer right there. I didn't even react. I'm just like, It just accepted it. Yep. It's like, this is my fate. Episode is just Brandon comes. What?
Starting point is 00:52:56 What? No, I get why Hugh Hefner just walked around in these things all the time. I think there was no other reason, but... Being comfortable. Yeah, just being comfortable. And free. Anyway, what are you hooked to, brother? Oh, you know?
Starting point is 00:53:10 I'm just enjoying the ride right now. This is great. At your expense, so I... Semi sorry, I guess? Yeah, it's all right. It's what we're here for it. Yeah, I love it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Good spirit, though. You could have been really angry. What's up? You could have been really angry and, like, spilled a drink on you and got pissed off, you know? Oh, yeah, just storm off. Like, fuck this. I'm done. It's not worth the money.
Starting point is 00:53:30 The podcast is ruined. Yep, podcast is ruined forever. This one's never airing. Sorry. That's okay. Waste your time. It's not a waste. Just walk out, like, actually genuinely upset.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I'm going home. You guys. Changes his flights. Well, so Mr. Cody. What did get you start getting actual traction on the internet? Going back to Nick's question. Yeah. So are you guys familiar with Soft Fleet?
Starting point is 00:53:55 Yeah. So my friends, the owner of that, and he came from our unit in Marsock. And when I was on my medical board, there was a thing at the time was called the fellowship program. So basically you could go work for free at a company during your timeout. And Softly created a position for me. And I got my command to sign up for it.
Starting point is 00:54:15 So that's where I learned like photography and videography. and like just graphic design. Like they took me in, gave me, gave me an apartment, my wife and my apartment and like, no shit. Gave me a chance to like heal and like experience. Like I was so stressed, bro. Like I was my life was falling apart.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Like cognitively I couldn't even like dress myself. I was getting lost to my own house, falling off of my motorcycles. I drive down the street and not know how I got there. It's like TVI kind of shit. Yeah, like everything was like just catching up to me. And so it was like, I was very desperate and I was very reliant and dependent on other people
Starting point is 00:54:45 for help and assistance. And so they gave me this shot. and it was like great and so you know we started shooting content and like they gave me some like like internet like maybe like notoriety but like you know they put me on softly to have my own like softly workout and it was i got to be in the softly family and do events with them and so that that started giving me traction on the internet and then really i started to grow my my social media just by like sharing youtube and like instagram stuff like kind of like what i was going through in life which was terrifying i remember the first time i got cold i got
Starting point is 00:55:17 called Stolen Valor on my second YouTube video and I cried for like a week and the comment the specific comic was you might be military but there's no way your special operations special operations guys don't talk like you and I'm like I'm just trying to help people like fucking like you know
Starting point is 00:55:35 What the fuck does that even mean? Like what was he trying to? I was talking about like mental health. I was talking about like depression anxiety and like the shit that I was doing to like combat the stuff and you know when I when I got out of the Marine Corps I told myself whatever everyone else was doing I'm not going to do. So like guys in my job, you just go out, you go contract, whether you work for the commander, you go work for the agency, which is what I wanted to do. And God had different
Starting point is 00:55:57 plans for me. You know, I literally went like kind of like a functioning vegetable. And so when I had that opportunity to go live that life, I had to turn it down, just because I couldn't even like tie my own shoe this time. And so I'm like, well, I'm not going to go do that. So I'm just going to go bet on me. I didn't even know what that meant. I just sold, you know, my wife and I sold all of her shit. She's like, if you got six weeks left live, what do you want? do. I'm like travel around and take pictures. I started to get into the habit of like saying the first thing that came to my mind
Starting point is 00:56:23 because I was always trying to like come up with the right answer but I was just like saying like what I want to do. Favorite slur right now. Go. Petus. That's not a slur. Favorite slur? I'm kidding. Man. Oh, he's going through a rolodex right now. Well, I'm just saying like people aren't getting bullied anymore and there's this like
Starting point is 00:56:40 this this loony tune fictitious reality that people live in where they've chosen to like call home their fortnight like call fortnight their home and where they run their thumbs and that they forget that they live in a world of repercussions and the crazy thing about it is like it's easy for me to threaten you if you should talk me but what you what i've learned over my journey is like when i hate on you bro it's just really saying everything about myself and that took me a long time to figure out so like i actually embrace it now because this gives me more content and like one of my favorite things to do now is like troll back the trollers so like i just like i use it back so it gives me like added ammunition i make it
Starting point is 00:57:15 on now. Vice back of the day, you just like really hurt me because I'm like, why are people so mean when I'm just trying to share something and like positive
Starting point is 00:57:23 and I don't even know what the fuck I was sharing. But yeah, I just started like talking on the internet and then I kind of like grew a message. You know,
Starting point is 00:57:29 I started my brand, we defied the norm in the van and just this message about like literally defying the norm and at the time I really didn't know what it meant to me. I just knew that
Starting point is 00:57:37 I could not do what everyone else was doing. Like I needed to do something different because you work the job but you fucking hate it just for, money and then you get yourself.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Like that was kind of like the roadmap for a lot of the guys that I worked with. And I'm like, I want to live. Like I really want to live. And just to go back really quick, it's one thing. And you wanted to actually make change when you got out from your lifestyle because you were very conditioned one way. And you're like, let me take time for myself, my family. I wanted to make change when I was active duty.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And for the first time in my life, I was when I was on my medical board. So my whole dream as a young Marine, once I found out that there was like, tier one units I could go to. And when I made over to Marsock, I applied numerous times, but because of manpower management or something like that, I never got a chance to go.
Starting point is 00:58:26 And then there was this one opportunity where like, hey, no matter your rank, no matter how long you've been in, like if you get selected, you meet the requirement, you can go. I'm like, this is my chance to finally go to selection with no stipulations from my command.
Starting point is 00:58:39 And so I go to my neurosurgeon, I'm like, hey, bro, like, I'm finally getting a chance to go to selection. And he's like, I'm like, I'm like, I want to postpone this medical board. He's like, okay, but let me ask you this. If you were to go over there, do you think you would be a liability?
Starting point is 00:58:53 And for the first time in my fucking military career, I was like, honest. I was like, yes, I would be a fucking liability. And that really set me on a whole different trajectory because that was already hard. Asking for help was fucking hard. Fighting for myself was fucking hard. So I was already fighting for survival because no one would listen to me. And I was noticing a pattern where I was super destructive.
Starting point is 00:59:13 So like everything, anything good I did in the military, I was quickly losing because I was becoming extremely violent. I was having uncontrollable journalism surges. Like my central nervous system was just completely crashing, right? I would be driving in a car with my wife and like miss a turn and like, shoot the fuck up. You're like, what are you doing? And she's like, she didn't even say anything.
Starting point is 00:59:34 She just looked at me. And I would just project this like insecurity onto my wife. I was having all these like blowups all the time. And, you know, and I was really desperate to want to change that shit. And so it started when I was active duty, which was sick because guys are stubborn. You know, guys won't even ask questions. Dudes will run through a room to get to a buddy, to get to an objective, a target. They'll fucking risk everything for that op.
Starting point is 01:00:00 But they will not raise their hands to ask a general question. They won't ask, why are we doing this stupid ass thing? But they'll fucking run into a machine gun bunker. Same thing when it comes to getting out. Like, guys, did you know that like you can get on test? testosterone, your dick can work? They're like, what? I'm like, yeah, I just went to the dock.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I said, dude, my, my dick doesn't work. And he's like, let's check your blood. I'm like, holy shit, you have low testosterone. They're like, how did you do it? I'm like, I just asked. Which, to my knowledge, isn't there like a correlation, like a direct correlation to, like, low testosterone and men and like TBI? 1,000 percent. You know, I work for a hormone company called Core Medical Group, and it's super sick.
Starting point is 01:00:35 And the coolest thing about that company is that we have a core medical group based out of Boca Raton, Florida. and we have a core medical foundation. And what's really savage about that is we provide a year supply of blood work, hormone replacement therapy, and concierge service for service members that cannot afford, service members and law enforcement officers who can't afford hormone replacement therapy. And we've been doing a study the past few years of like,
Starting point is 01:00:59 if we can get a man or woman, their blood work done, get their hormones, optimize, and balance and get them on some type of like whatever that is. Sometimes it's testosterone, sometimes it's an estrogen blocker, sometimes it's even a peptide, right? or sometimes it's just knowing what's inside you so you can stop building scenarios that aren't even real. We're seeing their lives change.
Starting point is 01:01:18 And there's this thing called like the operator syndrome of their calling it like the TBI, all this stuff. But like, dude, what did you expect? You're injected with everything known to men that you don't even fucking know when you're 18 years old, you know, day two in the military. You're exposed to literally every heavy metal. Like all this shit that I used to make fun of,
Starting point is 01:01:37 heavy metals, toxins, contaminants, chemtrails, or, Like, you know, organic food. On top of that complete lack of sleep with no normal sleep cycle. All the things I made fun of are absolutely real and we're exposed to it. I remember throwing flashbangs in the shoot house and putting a dip in. You know, doing a whole entire shooting package, shooting thousands of thousands of rounds and eating a subway sandwich, pound in like three monsters. It'd be like, what's next?
Starting point is 01:02:05 I'm going on a mission to afternoon be dehydrated and every once in a while, someone would be like, I'm not doing good What'd you do? I had five repens before we went on this 10 mile Why? Stupid Stupid. Fucking pool.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Real security. I'm bulking, bro. I mean, even like the Army's guidelines for shit, like depleted uranium. They're just like, well, isn't that like bad for your nuts? And they're like, well, like, yeah, just like don't like hold it there too long. It's like, what the fuck does that mean? Bro, there's a fucking 18 year old kid throwing boxes and batteries. in a fire pit. And we're all standing around smoking cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:02:41 We'd be like, man, that patrol fucking sucked, huh? And we're like, yeah, that sucked smelling batteries. Like all this shit that burn pits, bro. Like, all that stuff that we didn't even think about, right? And all the things I used to make fun of, like the organic stuff or the pure, like years of just running a toll on your body, you know, obviously spiritually and immensely as a whole other level, but physically, dude, like, we don't take care of ourselves because we don't know any different. You know, like, oh, you got something wrong with you? suck the fuck up. Oh, there's something
Starting point is 01:03:09 really wrong with you? Here's a Motrin. Dude, like, I had unlimited access to Motrin at Freefall School. Unlimited. There was a bucket of it. I'm going to take it like four Motrin, so when I come down for this jump, I'm going to be able to walk back to the house, you know, like, it's like, but we don't even know what we're doing.
Starting point is 01:03:25 And we, like, how many Z-packs did you take in the military? I'm sick. Let me take a Z-pack and nuke my entire like gut biome. I didn't know what a gut biome was, you know? I'm just know that if I take the Z-pack, whatever is in me is going to die. You know, it's sick. I'm going to go back into the fight.
Starting point is 01:03:41 It works. And some of the rest of me. Yeah, I'll shit it out later. There's a spider. Let me get the flamethrower. Yeah, it's the Spetsnaz. The Spetsnaz approach. It's like, hmm.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Five terrorists, 95 hostages, 100 body bag. Mission accomplished. Yeah. So there's just all these things, but I think I've completely TBIed this conversation. We're talking about, yeah, Burr Pitts. U.S. soldiers burned their weights in the middle. East Wars. It's my buddy.
Starting point is 01:04:09 That's my battalion, it's my unit, everything. So when I went in, they were like, but were you exposed to them? I was like, well, New York posted a series. That's my friend I deployed with.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And they're like, oh, you were, I was like, 100%. The photo on the brochure about burn pits is me. I'm in that. Like, that sort of thing.
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Starting point is 01:05:56 That's get. dot stash.com slash unsub. Get dot stash.com slash unsub. paid non-client endorsement not representative of all clients and not a guarantee investment advisory services offered by stash investments LLC and SEC registered investment advisory investing involves risk offer is subject to terms and conditions boom but you know the fucked up thing about that i was talking to i forgot this organization out there but they're they're they like special up the so com I don't know like advisory groupers they're like a media company for something with the military I don't fucking know and they're like yeah you talk about maybe you'll talk about like you know how operator syndrome and veterans, how we need to get the VA and the government to really push this to the system so we don't just give our veterans
Starting point is 01:06:42 medicine, pills until them get fucking bent. I'm like, that shit's cold and all, bro, but the problem isn't the VA or the government. The problem is us, right? It's like, what are you going to do for me? It's like, what are you going to do for yourself? And the problem is, like, we've all gone through hard shit and if we don't open up her voice,
Starting point is 01:06:56 even in our darkest time, like, no one can ever change because no one's going to want to let you down, right? They look at you differently than them, which is the silliest thing. Like if people meet me and they're like, I didn't do anything you did. I was just a,
Starting point is 01:07:10 I'm like, shut the fuck up. I'm like, bro, you were in the military? Thank you for your service. Because they, we completely undermine ourselves. So now you take a person like that, who has problems, maybe it was sexually sexually abused,
Starting point is 01:07:21 which happens in the military, maybe was in a, a TBI that went unreported because someone didn't want to get in trouble, right? Like, people aren't going to step up for themselves. I got to speak on a board during, So I'm a master sergeant. I'm a, I'm a EA for like three and a half years now.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I'm like super senior and I'm about to retire. And I got to sit on this board for this like a TBI or this traumatic brain injury like conversation thing in my command. And my neurosurgeon calls me out. I'm like fucking anxiety central. Like my palms are all sweaty because I'm about to speak in front of people. And like I just could not handle normal shit. But I got up there. And what I said was that like I'm an E8 and I fucking blood and sweat for this place.
Starting point is 01:08:02 And I got pushed back. to get help. Can you imagine what the E3, that just checked into our unit that got fucked over in a previous unit or got fucked over in this unit, do you think they're, I'm an E8? There's only one ring above me. And I'm getting shit. What do you think is going to happen to them? No one's going to listen to them. And that's the problem that I really saw, because I was that problem too. I would see young men and women come in as their enablers to support guys and girls. I'd be like, why the fuck are they getting into like physical therapy. They just got here. I have to wait for an appointment like this kind of self-entitled.
Starting point is 01:08:34 True. I had a fucking massive ego. But then I'm like, I'm glad they can go. Like, it took me to fall on my own face to see how hard it was to even get help when I was desperate for it to be appreciative all the times that I saw people get help when they actually wanted to be proactive on it, because I wasn't proactive. I was, I had the opportunity to be proactive so many times. I'd always postpone it because I'm going to get a chance to go to selection. I'm going to get to go to this school. I'm going to get to do this. That's all. all I did. A lot of the guys and girls
Starting point is 01:09:02 would work with, they're in the same mindset. So when we get out, it's like, yo dog, if you're not happy with your life, then only you can change it. And I truly feel like,
Starting point is 01:09:10 you know, how you guys are positive, right? Like, you know, there's a lot of our peer groups that just literally shit talk other veterans. And when you guys are positive,
Starting point is 01:09:16 even in like your talking fun, it's still uplifting and positive. We already knock each other. What, who hates successful veterans more than anyone else? Oh, he gets to knock a drink over.
Starting point is 01:09:28 That's fine. But there's a lid on that. has a lid. I can take the lid off. I can knock over that glass of that mug if you like. It would make me feel a little bit. It would be really funny if you spelled it on. I could.
Starting point is 01:09:41 That would be the biggest. Veterans just fuck over other veterans. Oh yeah. You want me to spill a drink here. Yeah. The Woodhouse or Marcher. I'll fetch another robes, sir. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Like, Brandon, what are you going to do in return? Nothing. Here's scary. Is it because my smile? People always say that, I recognize you. I'm like, is it my smile that you recognize? Devilishly good looks. Develishly good looks, man.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Mama gave me the jeans. But yeah, it's just, it's all crazy. So I think back to the original question, it was like, how to social media? So I just started talking about all these things I was going through. And then I think it was, it was right when COVID ended, you know, when that thing happened, Sean Ryan reached out to me and he's like, hey, you know, because for years, people were like, get Cody offered, get Cody offered.
Starting point is 01:10:34 He's like, hey, do you want to be in my podcast? And I'm like, me? I'm like, yeah, sure, okay. And I'm like, thank God, because I'm not going to get on a plane wearing a mask. You know, like that's just, I wasn't going to go nowhere. Like, I don't care who you are. Jesus Christ was supposed to meet you. Like, tell him, I'll get back to them, bro.
Starting point is 01:10:50 That's just not going to happen, you know? And I get this opportunity to go on Sean Ryan's show. And I, like, just datad up my life. Like, I was originally supposed to talk about like conspiracies and aliens and like tartaria and like all sorts of weird shit that's what he's like what do you want to talk about
Starting point is 01:11:04 I'm like are you into this stuff he's like yeah I am so we just started The reason nobody knows how to get to Agartha is because you wanted to talk about yourself I don't know it's not even my fault bro he asks me where did you grow up I'll tell you everything you know like
Starting point is 01:11:17 dude that chair was the most therapeutic chair of my life man and uh that chair changed my life and well even how was the nerves or research going into it bro the gummy bears did not last I'm a gummy bear slut, dude, and like, those gummy bears were so delicious. That's a shirt. You should sell that as a shirt.
Starting point is 01:11:34 I'm a gummy bear slut. Just gummy bear slut. You would go hard. You would sell a shit. You would sell a shit on a gummy bear slut. That's a really good shirt. Yeah, that's a gummy bear slut, bro. It was so great. Yeah, they were so good. But yeah, I was, I was nervous. If I saw somebody like you wearing that shirt, I would have so many questions. If I wear that shirt here, they tell me take off my shirt like this guy. He's autistic and wants to fuck, you know? Finn, do you want to show your shirt off? Yeah, come show the shirt. apparently the security team at the casino saw his shirt and told him he needs to quit wearing it
Starting point is 01:12:04 in public profiled you bro I said I should just want to mute not mute non-verbal and you would be like oh they would be like never mind sorry why they apologize
Starting point is 01:12:19 ran away in fear they're watching they're watching Finn play blackjack this guy's definitely not autistic He's losing. Oh, he didn't get the Super Bowl. He did not get the rain man kind of autism. They just watch him.
Starting point is 01:12:40 There's 31 flavors and he didn't get that one. No, you did not. Still stemming the entire time. He's having a good time blowing money. Where do we even go from that? I don't know. Gummy bear slut and autistic and ready to fuck. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:12:53 It's fucking beautiful. So you got, you started talking about that. Sean Ryan, how was that experience when they actually reached out for the first time? Was it like, oh, okay, I'm in a prep or how much prep work went into it? There was no prep. I didn't, I didn't, yeah. Like I said, we were supposed to talk about like aliens and things. And so I'm like, I was excited for the opportunity, you know, and I was episode 34.
Starting point is 01:13:13 So still pretty infinite on his stuff. And I was just humble that I got an opportunity, like somebody wanted to hear? Yeah. Out of curiosity, why was he going to talk to you about aliens specifically? I don't think he knew what he wanted to talk about. I think he asked me. And I'm like, and then I'm like, I was into like reading all those books. I'm like, are you into this?
Starting point is 01:13:30 And he's like, he's like, what are you into? I'm like, I'm into these weird things. He's like, do you want to talk about that? I'm like, sure, I can talk about this stuff. And that's really what my thought process was going down there. And clearly that's not what happened. And I thought I didn't know if we were going to get another lore dump where you're like, oh, yeah, no, well, I was a guard at like Area 51 for a couple years.
Starting point is 01:13:47 You know, that's sort of, I've seen some shit. Yeah, no, there was, there is, we didn't even talk about aliens, you know? And honestly, it was selfishly, it changed my life by giving my, by giving my myself, I never even processed, I never even thought about some of those memories till that share. And so, and that was the first time ever, like, I already had to do like a congruency of, like, timelines when I was in the military from my medical board of like, yep, I ate 100 micklicks on this deployment. And I had to like kind of go back into my timeline of experience, but like to going back to my childhood or like my interaction with my old son who lives
Starting point is 01:14:17 in Germany with his mom that I didn't have contact until he was freaking eight, you know, like these like these real questions. And he kind of just like opened up Pandora's box and gave me an opportunity to speak. And it was awesome. You know, before I even knew what the feeling seen was, like I felt fucking seen before I even knew what that was. So you'd never spoken to anybody about this stuff before? No, I tried to.
Starting point is 01:14:37 And then I realized that I would get too choked up and I didn't really know why because I was still pretty fresh. I think at this point I was out of the Marine Corps maybe like three years, two and a half years, maybe three years. And so like I was still going through a lot of like things that I couldn't quite identify yet. And I wasn't happy. I didn't love myself.
Starting point is 01:14:56 I was really struggling, but I was functioning struggling, right? Like, so it was kind of working, but it was also not working at the same time. And the wild thing about that is, Sean texts me, he's like, hey, dude, it's gonna go air tomorrow. You're ready?
Starting point is 01:15:08 I'm like, I typed this like paragraph and I asked him to please don't air it. And I'm so grateful that I wasn't selfish and sent that. But I was so scared. I'm like, what if I said too much? Like, what if I broke a rule or something? You know, I didn't know you didn't send it.
Starting point is 01:15:22 When you initially said that, I'm like, oh, and he just fucking sent it anyway? What an asshole. Yeah, no, man, I totally think he would respect. I mean, I don't even think. I know he would respect my wish. Yeah, let you on red. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Oh, notification from the Sean Ryan. Yeah. Like, oh, man. Sean, Sean seems cool. He seems like a really good thing. It was really great interaction. But I didn't see that, but I was, I was scared.
Starting point is 01:15:43 And, you know, and obviously, and then the podcast comes out. And like, I'm, like, really uncomfortable because I was just being me. But I was also doing what most people haven't ever done is, like, just be themselves. and the first like thousand comments was like, I'm not taking life advice from a guy with face tattoos. What a piece of shit with face tattoos. This guy needs Jesus Christ in his life. Like all these like typical duchery things that I see digitally.
Starting point is 01:16:07 And it really fucked me up a bit. I'm like, dude, I'm just being me sharing my story. But I'm f***ed up for being me. Like I'm sorry I'm not perfect. But then wouldn't you know that that was only so small compared the amount of pauses. I mean, dude, I get stopped. It was been on.
Starting point is 01:16:24 for a lot of years. It's not so much uncomfortable now because it means a lot to me to that people take time out of their day to be like, hey, dude, you've been back to my life. You show me that I could go get fucking help. Because like PTSD, trauma, I don't get fuck who you are, bro. Like, we all have it. And I've been into psychedelics since 2018 and I've done the majority of all them. And there's always one common denominator, how it all started. And it's not war. It's not combat. It's not the, it's not the abuse. It's not the neglect. It's when you were a kid of some shape or form. And then that forms into you not seeing yourself
Starting point is 01:16:58 and all the things you've gone through and throughout this journey for myself. I didn't even process, but I didn't even process getting shot on the fucking helmet. I downplayed it for years. People like, dude, you got shot on the fucking helmet. I'm okay, okay, uncomfortable and I walk away. Hey, you're the youngest master sergeant.
Starting point is 01:17:10 I'm okay, thank you, walk away. Like, I just felt uncomfortable because I never even acknowledged, like all the crazy shit that I even got to experience, you know, good or bad. And so it's super sick, man. And like, it's funny because I'll get shh talked by a bunch of like soft guys,
Starting point is 01:17:24 special operations guys on the internet all the time about me because motherfuckers hate when you don't hop on the bandwagon and if you speak logic to illogical people you trigger them and then when you tell them you're triggered that just pisses them off more so I just keep on saying you're triggered
Starting point is 01:17:40 but uh anyways but out of all those things the amount of people that like last year at Shaw Show there was like these guys like Team Six guys there's fucking dudes all around they're like bro I appreciate what you doing thanks you for saying the things that you say
Starting point is 01:17:54 I'm like, you're a bad motherfucker. This dude's a fucking nobody talking behind a screen and you say thank you? And so I'm like, bro, okay. And then I've like, I've really asked myself this whole time, like, what is the point of all these things if I'm not going to use my fucking mouth, right? Like if I'm not going to use what God gave me,
Starting point is 01:18:12 this voice, the most powerful thing we possess, you know, I'm just, I am truly selfish. And I feel like it's just, it lacks boldness. It's a lack of boldness in your life to not open up. You know, if you can't say no, then you'll just agree to everything, bro, that you have no backbone, you're lukewarm, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:18:28 And that, I don't choose to be that, you know? Like, I don't choose to be a lukewarm motherfucker. I'm not perfect by any means, but, like, I have beliefs. I know what I stand for. I know what I believe in. I've worked really hard to get there.
Starting point is 01:18:40 And it wasn't like, it just happened overnight. It was years of fucking facing the things that no one can see. They're like, oh, you're killing it. I'm like, bro, I'm really suffering really bad right now. But I am getting better. You know, instead of fucking up 10 times a day,
Starting point is 01:18:52 I'm only fucking up five times. a day. I started looking for more reasons of how my life was changing than how my life was staying the same. And that was a big paradigm shift for me. And, you know, but it started off at the Sean Ryan show, then back to like, how did I blow up on social media? Sean Ryan, like, jump me up. Dude, I remember the first time Sean Ryan at video drops. I go live the next day on Instagram. Just to say thank you. Dude, 60,000 motherfuckers were live on my Instagram live. I'm like, oh, shit. No pressure. No, I was like, oh, fuck. I just like, if I didn't look at the numbers, it would have been anything, right? Like, I'm pretty.
Starting point is 01:19:24 I was thinking my phone, but I saw 60,000 people on my, like, 34,000 follower count. And I'm like, oh, like, my stomach just, like, went on my asshole, bro. I was like, oh, my God, I'm so uncomfortable. You were giving missions and, like, direction to people who run into combat and all of us. Yeah, yeah. Oh, for sure, dude. A screen, you know, a device that doesn't even have a button, you know? It's not even a real button.
Starting point is 01:19:50 And that thing terrified me, bro. But, you know, that black box dude is like the portal to social. many positive influence in this life, right? And you can either be a shit talking one or a motherfucker that stands for something that is positive. It's so, it takes the same amount of effort and energy. And these guys that just talk shit online, I'm like, bro, you have a girlfriend or a wife that's like, man, that's my man right there, just talking shit all day.
Starting point is 01:20:12 I get the . . . . . I'm like, that's, that has to be their conversation. I'm sure that's the exact conversation. You told him, bad. I'm proud of my man. My man just gets on the internet all day and just talk shit about it. motherfuckers. Woo, he makes me proud. Brandon, do you need not a... One more time, you got this buddy.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Brandon, can you... Brandon, do you like... Almost there, buddy. Brandon, where do you store your firearms? All over my house in every fucking crevice. Well, do I have the product for you, Nick Schum? Here, hand it to me, Brandon, so I can show you... Brandon, this is Stopbox.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Stop box. We love box. You're selling me. What's in the box? You have to open it and find out. All right. Well, well, let's... See if I can do this. Oh, wow. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Oh, it didn't stop you. Can I hide my goop in that? You can hide your goop in that, Cody. Cody, do you know why I love this thing? Why? Why? Why? God!
Starting point is 01:21:08 Why? Because you don't have to use keys. Gun, not included. Cody, you've got multiple cats in your house, including Squirt, who's quite the scrapper. Would you want Squirt to have access to your firearms? No, he's violent. Well, then Stopbox is the perfect product for you.
Starting point is 01:21:25 No cats. getting inside that. Or people without thumbs. Mm-hmm. The nice part is it is actually TSA compliant. I didn't actually know that part until a couple months ago. That is actually really cool. You just put a little lock through there. Exactly. When you check in a pistol or any gun, if there's a hole that a lock can go through on whatever you're checking your gun in, you have to put a lock through that. This has one hole, so you just need one lock easily accessible once you land on the ground. I know you're not
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Starting point is 01:22:17 Discover a better way to balance security and readiness with stopbox. Stopboxusa.com use code unsubscribe. Something that I actually I learned from administrative results of all people. He said something that kind of resonated with me and it's stuck with me with me since then. It's because, you know, you see negative comments on the internet and you immediately want to respond. Because in your mind, like, you see a million people telling you, oh, you're the shit. And you see one guy saying, like, you ain't shit. And like, that's the one that sticks out.
Starting point is 01:22:45 But he said, you know, you cultivate what you encourage and what you spend your time on. And he's like, for every negative comment that I respond to, I try to respond to 10 positive ones. I'm like, that's actually probably a very good rule. I think that's, that direction I think is healthy. Do it. And honestly, I give credit to the people that have triggered me online. Like all the dudes that have talked shit about me online, they have the impact of my life positively. And I realized there was my own peer group in Marslar when I first got out.
Starting point is 01:23:16 I've only had one job of civilian. I worked for four months at this startup cannabis company in L.A. I'm like a director of operations. I'm like, damn, I'm going to pay you money. This is sick. I got face tattoos. Like, I'm a glorified drug dealer. Get a paid.
Starting point is 01:23:27 I'm like, this is epic. Fuck you. You look happy. You look successful. This guy. And I would tell myself these things. I'm like, that guy didn't do shit in my job. And now he's getting this opportunity.
Starting point is 01:23:37 So like, but I never type it. I just talk inside of me. But then I realized, even during then, I'm like, he's just triggering me of what I could do if I had the courage to do what he's doing. Because I was too scared. He's doing something that I want to do But he's bold enough to go do it and I'm not You know
Starting point is 01:23:54 I get I get a All you do is read Wikipedia pages on the internet And it's like I mean fucking kind of go for it bro Like it's it's a dope-ass job Nobody's stopping you should do it You're like you just have a podcast Yeah Okay try it
Starting point is 01:24:08 I assure you Just try it Yeah just try it And like these guys that talk shit It's like I'm like Why is this bothering me? Do I believe that? And you know
Starting point is 01:24:19 they're jealous. That's easy to say too, but at the same time it's making my nervous system feeling comfortable, making me feel that, that wooziness in here. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:24:28 what do you think that is? Why? Well, at the time, I didn't understand, but I started to dive into like my nervous system and like, okay, I don't believe that.
Starting point is 01:24:36 My mind doesn't believe that, but my body still doesn't know the difference, right? And therefore like, okay, why is that triggering me? Is that true? Am I not showing up in certain areas of my life?
Starting point is 01:24:45 Am I being a phony? Am I being a fraud? I mean, the most hurtful comments are the ones that have like a, a little nugget of truth to it. Where you're like if that's like an insecurity that you've had or like something that you think like
Starting point is 01:24:55 oh man I might have phoned this one in or something like that and so you see a comment that said man you phone this in you're like fuck. Like it's the ones that make you more aggravated. Not even like rooted in truth for me. It's just like. Or at least what you think. Why am I given this energy?
Starting point is 01:25:08 I'm giving an energy because clearly I do believe I'm a piece of shit in some aspect. You know, I'm a big proponent of plant medicine. Have you heard of that solution? Have you heard of ambioling? life science. So Vets Solution is a nonprofit that's by Marcus Capone. He was a team six guy, I believe. And so his foundation sent special operations veterans to Mexico with this company called Ambio Life Science. And do you go to there. You do I began in five meo DMT. And I had
Starting point is 01:25:38 know a couple of people actually. I've been out there twice. The first time I went down there, I truly believe I found God in my belief in a mex in a concrete room of Mexico. But when I came back home. It's like a two to three day thing, right? It's a five day event, yeah. So you go down there, you do like a sweat lodge, and then the next day that night you do, you fast and you do your Ibigaine ceremony. And then the next day is like a massive recovery day.
Starting point is 01:26:02 They call the Day of the Gray, like, gray day. You're just my first experience of just like twitching, like tweaking out on the bed, like just super nauseous because like you're, you can not have like me. I have like, I was like I didn't have any visions or any sightings in my mind. It was just darkness and stillness. same thing with I began, but your body is detoxing. I woke up the next day. I had more mobility in my life than I've had in years
Starting point is 01:26:26 because it just attacks inflammation. You know, it's insane what it does. And you're just physical mobility? Physical mobility. I was able to touch my toes for the first time, like on the first try. It was the most well thing. And then secondly, the most important thing about Ibegain
Starting point is 01:26:39 is you're guaranteed, guaranteed to move the gray matter in your brain. So like people that are really scared, but they have all these crazy TBI. It reverses TBIs. This doesn't heal you, but it starts to put things back in its place so you can actually make progress in your life
Starting point is 01:26:52 because they've actually done studies on this. They actually did a study with a bunch of seals out west, put them through Ibogaine, did the MRIs and cascans on them and saw how the gray matter shifted in their brain from they were already exposed to blast exposure to post-Ibegain. The neuropathways form again, or in different ways. In different ways, but yeah, like, you know.
Starting point is 01:27:11 I've seen there's a lot of studies that are coming out nowadays, especially I think they just removed like one of the, there was like a government limitation on the ability to study stuff like this, but whether it's like psychedelics in general, like ibigaine or psilocybin, like actual like documented improvement when it comes to like TBIs and healing the brain. Dude, 1,000%, bro. I don't believe that plant medicine is for everybody, but I believe that changes for everybody and some people are just so resistance and that's okay because there's a lot of other modalities
Starting point is 01:27:39 out there. There's a lot of like basic, you know, eye therapy that can renege the neuropathways in your brain. There's just a lot of things out there. but I've always felt called to plant medicine for whatever reason. And then after that day, you do 5MEO DMT, Bufo the Toad, they call the God molecule. And I tell people like, when you go down to Mexico, you're guaranteed three things.
Starting point is 01:27:59 One, you're guaranteed to feel better in your body. Guaranteed, guaranteed. You're guaranteed to move the gray matter in your brain, guaranteed. And you're guaranteed a chance to let go. And if you look like me or Eli, you're not guaranteed to come back. Well, luckily, it's just super safe. If you're in like a gated community, like it's like five star, you're in a mansion. Like it's like you got monitors.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Hey, why are you sleeping on the bed? Go mow the yard. It's just confuse us for the yard work. It's like, oh, okay. You guys would fit in perfectly. You know, it would be great. It'd be like at home, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Yeah. He's telling us to move back. Well, you don't like this country? Go back to where you came from. I've seen so many changes in individuals from it that I know have TBI or really bad PTSD and then I get to watch the experience of them even having alcoholism and it's gone literally they've done it once they don't crave booze anymore it's the most wild shit I've ever watched these are individuals I'm sure you've seen the same thing they're addicted to substance I was gone over a week one way or the other you can't argue that it doesn't rewrite something in your Parthways. I was there with a, with a Army Ranger,
Starting point is 01:29:16 Army Ranger, a regiment did, right? Army Ranger, I can't even speak right now. Army Ranger, I am tired from Shot Show. You're 40 also, my friend. It's going around. Yeah. And he was an alcoholic. And he changed my perspective on shit. At first I thought
Starting point is 01:29:31 the message is you say, call selfish, it'll get people to think. And I don't, it's not going to stop you. But it might make you pause at one millisecond to think about your actions because there's no tagbacks. I used to think that was it. His story completely changed my perspective. He said one day before he went before he's in Mexico with me, he was having the great day. Wife cooked breakfast. Everything was fine and dandy. He was having literally the time of his
Starting point is 01:29:57 life. His kid was about to go to a friend's house down the street and play Xbox and have a party and his wife was about to drive the kids down there and he was going to go grab the meat and bring it down there. And he said as soon as family left, he walked outside. He had no intentions of doing this. He walked. outside, put his extension cord around his neck, put it over the, uh, the grading. He had like, what is it? What lattice or not lattice? Whatever that thing is called. And he himself. And, uh, his wife came back because the son left the controller at home. The wife came back. And so unfortunately, the son saw his dad hanging. The wife and the son were able to, uh, pick him up and like,
Starting point is 01:30:32 get him off and get him help. And that changed my complete, that completely changed my, my vision and idea of what I thought was. This guy did not have one ideation. And just like that, he decided to go for it. And like future plans and everything like that. Yeah, future plans. I mean, and one of my great friends, Daniel Brown, he was a Navy Sart. So they're the special amphibious reconnaissance corpsman. One of my best friends.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Just a beautiful man, beautiful soul. And we're on the phone and we're supposed to link up next week. He moved back to Nebraska with his family. We were both in Idaho together. And we're going to do business together. So he's like, yeah, let's link up Monday and let's talk about this business plan. That was me pushing it. That was him pushing it, right?
Starting point is 01:31:10 That was his objective. I'm like sick. Two days later, I get a call from his wife saying that Daniel's gone. And it like, it f***ed me, dude. It just, it's so crushed me. And I'm like, fuck, this motherfucker is selfish, dude. Like, what the fuck? But then hearing the story about this, this Ranger that I met, who's a beautiful man, dude.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Like, he's the best stories, dude. He's a time in prison, like crazy shit, dude. A lot of trauma. A lot of trauma. And he has a heart of goal really means well. But for him to make that decision, it changed my mind. well, so we do Ibogne, we do our five Mio, and he hasn't touched alcohol since. He actually said in his trip, in his journey with Ibogaine, because you fly into the
Starting point is 01:31:50 San Diego airport, and then you stay at a hotel and they pick you up and drive you across the border the next day. He said in his trip, he woke up in the San Diego Airport terminal. There was no one there. He walked in. He knew exactly where the bar was because he had a beer on the way there in real life, right? So he walks to the terminal. No one's there.
Starting point is 01:32:07 He walks into, I think it was like the Stone Brewery Co. pours himself a beer, he says as soon as he takes a sip, this is all in his mind, he said he just exploded. And then he flashed back to childhood, flashed back to war and kept them flashing back to all these things. And he says he hasn't had a drink since then. But the crazy thing about that with that much level of change in your life, right? And especially with 5MEO DMT, 5MEO is the craziest thing I've ever done because no matter how strong you think you are, there is only surrender. And the hardest thing I think for humans in general, not even men, not even veterans, it's just surrendering, right? Because we hold on to this life.
Starting point is 01:32:40 because life is good fucking talking on phones, microphones, spilling drinks in herself. You know, we're going to have fun. All right, listen. You want to go do I've a game for that? Yeah, embarrassment you suffered? That's what I'm going to flashback to is that moment on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:32:56 But you handed it like a G, you know? You handle it like a G. You're like, I will not be defeated by a wet taint. You know, like, Brinth told the doctor why he's going to do the treatment. Did you do war? No. worse.
Starting point is 01:33:12 You ever heard a swamp ass? Yeah. In front of other men? That was me. And that was the last time Brandon wore a robe. Yep. Never again. True story.
Starting point is 01:33:22 You know, and so you do this, you do this five and me-o experience and you have to completely surrender. But anyways, I'm like, I felt so loved and empowered through this journey, but I went back home and I tried to like, well, I feel loved. I know I'm connected to it, whatever that it is to me. And I'm like, why can't I accept? love in my life. I'm like, why can I accept this love that I just got to experience and I know it's real and there for me? Well, I got called back, I got invited back again a year later, like,
Starting point is 01:33:49 hey, you want to come back for round number two? And I was terrified because I'm like, I know what I'm about to have to go through. And it wasn't the I begin that I was worried about. It was like that five of me, yo, because. So you did it twice? You have to die. Yeah. I did it. I actually did three times. Oh, no shit. Also, the worst tagline for a business is like, you want to die 80 fucking time. Well, I know you're going to die. You know, they don't say that. But like, I know you're going to die. I know. Because all my friends that went through it's like you die like a hundred times. I'm like, you're not selling me on this. But the thing is like, but the cool thing about that though is like
Starting point is 01:34:22 if when we hold on to everything this life, right, we hold onto our past identities, right? Like reprogramming our lives and our mindsets and our relationships and all this shit. It's just are you, you're choosing to hold on to an old version of you that you say you don't like, but yet it's like, well, I might need this gear pouch if the apocalypse happens in 30 years from now. You know, like we hold on to all this shit that we don't even, I really realize. At least that was in my world, right?
Starting point is 01:34:44 So I can all, I'll just speak about myself. If you go, if you ever go again, I will join you on that. Bro, I'd love to get you guys connected. Braynard Ronsett, dude. Brandon has this. Yeah, apparently I just had my traumatic experience. So I'll have to, you know.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Do you be surprised, man? You know, traumatic, you know, trauma is like, it doesn't matter how you got it. The fact is you got that motherfucker. Legitimately, though, I do know like a lot of friends, mutual friends that have gone through that experience. They've gone to Mexico, whether it's through that group or not, I'm not sure, but have gone through the Ibigan, 5MEO, 5MEO. Yep. And they've said nothing but good things.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Yeah, man, it's life change. So I go back on the second trip and I'm like, I'm excited to go because I'm scared. And I realize a long time ago when you're, when it's scared and nervous is the same feeling as excitement. It's just a different word that I'm choosing to like bounce around in my head. And so I'm like, if I'm scared, and I'm scared. I know I got to go. And I know that the only way, if I don't take a set forward, I'm just going to freeze and lock up,
Starting point is 01:35:38 and that's not going to happen. So I know I'm just going to push forward. And the first thing I say is, I fucking hate you. And I started to cry. I did like two hits. Who do you say this to? To myself. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:52 And I'm saying it out loud in a beautiful garden, a beautiful garden overlooking this beautiful ocean, beautiful, beautiful garden flowers everywhere, and a bunch of, like, amazing people around me. And I just started to cry. And then I yell out at the top of my lungs. I fucking hate you. And then I keep on saying, I hate you, I fucking hate you.
Starting point is 01:36:10 And I'm just like bawling my eyes off. And I haven't cried like this in so long. And I'm just, I'm grateful that I'm crying. But I'm really kind of like just going through it this moment. And then I ended up saying out loud, I am you, I am you. I love you, I love you. And I don't know why the fuck I would say those things.
Starting point is 01:36:26 But then it really changed my, and changed my entire life because I realized for 39 years how much I hated myself, even when I had smiles in my face. even when I wasn't lying to myself. You know, so those, those texts, these comments that were negative, the shit I would say to my head, the reasons why I'm like, man, why can't I make my marriage better? Like, why can't my business run it?
Starting point is 01:36:45 Like, why, why, why? It was because I couldn't accept me. And I'm a believer in that you say you believe in shit, but if you don't believe in yourself, then the thing you believe in is also bullshit. And so that to me is like the ultimate like equalizer. And I realized I couldn't accept this love. experienced a year ago because I couldn't accept love for myself. You know, I'm like, I want my wife to love me. I need my wife to love me because that would make me better. Like, no one's
Starting point is 01:37:12 going to give me the love that I need but myself. And if I can't be open to that, then I can't accept anything else because I couldn't accept my wife's love. I couldn't accept my friend's love. Like, I always felt like someone's trying to get an angle on me or like, just takes something from me. And I'm like, well, I'm always better than I'm people investing people, but they're not investing in me. They were doing it the whole time. But I had, I had these goggles on of like fucking hatred for myself and I just didn't know it and I turned 40 last May so May 23rd I turned 40 dude the best year of my life bro like to whatever it was last year 2025 the best fucking year of my life bro and your DM to me or your text to me was amazing to read because
Starting point is 01:37:51 you're like holy shit it's been a really good year now I'm focusing on myself you could see that change in yourself it was awesome read I was like dude congratulations you just so positive even towards me you're like I love seeing what you're doing it's awesome it's awesome and same I was like dude same you're crushing I love your journey I love that you're very vocal about it but now that you're saying this out loud it makes a lot of sense yeah people are like man you're fucking killing it I'm like bro I don't even I don't even have money to pay my bills this month dude but I'm like if killing it means happy as fuck and I love my life and I love my family then I'm murdering it bro you know and do wait till that gummy bear slut shirt comes out yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:38:31 Nick, we can make this happen right now. Dude, I just want to feed families in the town that I live in. Gummy bears. And drive a Porsche. Like, I want a rally Porsche. I want to feed families and fucking own a rally Porsche. Oh, my guy. Gummy Bertie Lutz is going to be my gateway to there, you know?
Starting point is 01:38:45 That was like, I'm like, wow, he's so altruistic. Oh, he's still a dude. Oh, dude, rally porches. I've been in the classics my entire life at where I live. Like, the classics that I used to have, they would just fall apart. Yeah. I'm like, I want to put a big ass elk on my rally portion. And I worked at the client back a day.
Starting point is 01:39:00 He's an artist. and he commissioned this like, my favorite color is yellow. And so it's yellow with black tiger stripe and he drew me, he painted me in the picture and I'm like, this has got like Baja lights
Starting point is 01:39:11 and the rack on top. I'm like, I'm gonna fucking have an elk on my Porsche and drive it every fucking day. And it's just, it's only matter of time, you know, and well,
Starting point is 01:39:19 to completely change gears, sorry, but going back to some stuff he said earlier, uh, you were saying like your first deployment and whatnot, you're like,
Starting point is 01:39:25 oh yeah, and I talked to my wife or my wife sent out, Oreos and a frosting. Yeah, one is just such a flex on the enemy. It's like, we will go halfway around the world, not only to kill you, but we're going to be eating better food than you have while we do it. Not even just Oreos, the seasonal drops. The seasonal drops of Oreos. The logistical flex of that is hilarious. But
Starting point is 01:39:44 it sounded like you met your wife very early. No, I met my wife actually before this, my last deployment. Oh, really? Okay. Maybe I misunderstood. Yeah, no, no. I was actually married before. I was married for six and a half years. And I was the typical story. bro, she's not good for me. Like, you don't know anything. She loves me, man. She loves me. And, you know, obviously it's always easy to talk shit.
Starting point is 01:40:07 I was equally guilty in a toxic relationship. But, you know, that was actually hard. Dude, getting divorce was hard. You know, I hated my marriage. I hated what I was doing. I wanted it to end. And I'd be like, I wanted a divorce. And she's like, fine.
Starting point is 01:40:20 I'm like, no, love me, love me. You know, like, so like my desperation for, for being, wanting to be loved, you know, stem back a very long time in my career. I just didn't even know it. And, you know, you'd never really know until you read the whole book, you know. And so I was actually married for six and a half years. And I met my wife.
Starting point is 01:40:38 I actually stalked her online. So, like, you know, like, bro, dude, there's a lot of good looking dudes that are jacked and tattooed out there. Right. I can't just like your first post. I got to, like, scroll down a couple and, like, you are going to know I exist. And at the time. Take notes, fellas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:53 At the time, my Instagram was just like guns, stark. Carleys and, like, classic trucks, right? And then I had this, like, crazy, like, curled mustache. It was my photo. It was from, like, a deployment photo. And luckily, one of my buddies' wives worked at the same bar that my wife was working at.
Starting point is 01:41:08 And she's like, who is this creep? And she's like, oh, that's my husband's friend. And so, like, she kind of bridged an introduction. And bra, dude, like. Who's this creep is a, that's a great segue. Yeah. It's a real moral of the story. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Has a buddy is friends with the wife. Oh, for sure. Have a buddy who's married to someone with hot friends. That's great. dude my wife is my wife my wife my wife my wife is savage dude she she's everything that i wasn't at the time and she i was on three deployments with my first marriage i got one fucking care package that i had a set up before i deployed on that on our deployment right i never got anything else and not woe it's me but like this is my wife you know my my that is a what that is a depressing it was so
Starting point is 01:41:52 depressing as fuck hopefully this deployment just said me rice yeah it was it was pretty fucked up i got themed packages like once a week where I was at on my last rotation and my wife was just dude I'd open up it'd be like a movie box bro she would like send me beer and like like beer and like chips and like popcorn I didn't know they were allowed to send alcohol she's bro you're not allowed to do a lot of things but do you listen to rules I ain't barely I've done that's fair enough I had bacon scent you know like I'm an American you know you ever heard that back-to-back world champs you know before everyone went woke and tell you're just working for the Jews, you know.
Starting point is 01:42:28 So, you know, like, I'm still going back to meeting with the pastor and you're like, it's like, you're Jewish and you're eating bacon. You're like, yeah? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh, what about it? Hey, about that. The Jew box with the beef. What's kosher meat?
Starting point is 01:42:45 Yeah, so you're telling me if I'm Jewish today, I get that beef soup? Oh, you didn't. Saibia. Sabio. Why is this napkin circular? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:56 What's in the weird ass Man, they got up everything in this kid, you know? That's so f***ed up. Oh, shit. It's great, dude. You know, there was a, there's a, dude, I had a page that said bear you. And for a short time, that was like my, like, my nickname or whatever. And because there's only like so many Jewish.
Starting point is 01:43:19 And I was a scout sniper. So I had like SS tattoos on me if they were scout sniper. They're like, you're racist. I'm like, I'm fucking Jewish. right? Like how am I, how do I hate myself? What funny story? I really did hate myself, you know? Jokes on me, you know, years later, I'd realize that. But yeah, it just wow. Anyways, but like, Bear Jew is sick. All my paddles have like Bear Jew like literally a pretty cool moniker. It's super sick. You know, literally bear with the fucking Star of David. You know, I've got another paddle,
Starting point is 01:43:46 the biggest star of David. And then I post those things nowadays. One, I do it just to troll the internet because everyone hates Jews now. And, uh, but two, it's like, this is what's cool. But then there was like this different generation that they're like, oh, I'm just a zombie Zogbot. I'm like, what does that mean? You know, and then they follow it up with like, what is it, boot liquor and what's the other cool terms to use nowadays? Throat goat. I got called a throat goat. Yeah, by another well-known special forces.
Starting point is 01:44:16 In person? Oh, definitely not in person. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. I saw him yesterday, you know, but I got called a throat goat. The specific words were Tim Kemp. Kennedy's throat goat. That was the specific words used. Because when the whole Tim Kennedy thing came out, I went on TK's post and I said, look, look at us, typically just attacking each other and talking shit. But that clearly meant I chose sides and said stolen valor is fine and agreed to every nefarious thing that happened. But you know, you can't be logical to illogical people. At the end of the day, though, if you are logical to illogical people, it's very easy to dim yourself and to like go back into hiding or join the mob. And, you know, not ever be seen again. And I refuse to have a mom and dad that raised me. You know, I refuse to have
Starting point is 01:45:02 a belief that I say I believe in and to fucking play small, you know, and it's not to be better than you or to be just different because I want to be. Bitch, I only know how to be me. And I am just different. And the thing is, like, we're all different. But we're just scared to say us to be ourselves. Dude, I had a meeting with a company today. And they're like, how do you want to do this? You want to get your camera? I'm like, bro, we could just have a conversation. You know, we talked about this. Like, let's just be bros. Tell me about your new gear. And then my camera guy will figure it out. Because that's the shot show
Starting point is 01:45:31 special is you go around the show floor and you see these people that just like like, ah, like a fucking animatronic. They'll just like go into their five minute spiel. It's like, bro, it's okay. Like you can, like we're not, we're not doing this for a camera. Like we can just, we can just talk about this. Yeah, dude. I don't, I'm not
Starting point is 01:45:47 trying to be like everyone else. Oh yeah, let me. Give me my 10% discount code so I can say the same regurgitated shit that I hear 24 7. Like, bitch, I'm not a tel Or a commercial, bro. I'm a real person, dude. And like, what I say impacts lives, right? And what I do impacts my own fucking life and my family.
Starting point is 01:46:03 And why would I choose to be a robot? And if I have a chance to be human or ask a question or get help, why wouldn't I want to do that, no matter how scared it is? Like, it doesn't make sense to me. I'm like, man, you ran into a machine gun fortified position and you're like, this is sick. And then you're like, man, who needs help? Who's actually feeling good? I'm like, I'm good to go.
Starting point is 01:46:24 I'm good to go. because I'm scared to be seen by my own brothers. I think it's a scary thing. I think that's what's awesome. What you're doing is you're an individual that's, you are at the top of your job in the Marines. You led from that position. And now you are that inspiration because it's okay.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Because a lot of guys, they're going to look up to you in the second. You're like, hey, you can't, it's okay to have an emotional response. It's okay, X, Y, Z. They'll do it now just because you're, you're the one leading from the front from that. So I truly appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Thanks, man. It's a, it's a, you know, so many times in my life, I've asked like, man, what's my purpose? What's my purpose? And I'm looking around as I'm saying the same, I'm using the same purpose looking for my purpose. I'm using the same breath asking where is my purpose when my breath is my purpose, you know? And, you know, and if tomorrow I'm passionate about something else and this, that would be my purpose then, you know? But like being, being encouraged other people to do that. But here's a crazy thing, right?
Starting point is 01:47:21 People are like, America sucks. war's crazy. I'm like, listen, bitch, it will always be that until you realize how powerful you are. You know, like, could you imagine during COVID if people said, I'm not going to fly today. Fuck you. You would not have any rules.
Starting point is 01:47:38 But I had to. I had to go to this business. That business you hate. That business that you literally talk shit about to all your friends. That's why you drink so much in the weekend. You come home and you talk to your wife. How did you fucking hate a job? That job you had to go there? That's something that Mr. Gunsendgear, I think actually told me at one point where
Starting point is 01:47:54 He's talking about, like, people who are like, oh, you're a grifter. You're a grifter. Oh, grifter. That's another good word. Yeah. It's like, oh, you're a grifter, bro. Like, you didn't ad for a company. He's like, yeah, I gave my unfiltered, informed opinion on a product.
Starting point is 01:48:07 And in that, I did an ad for another company. Yeah, okay. Sure. Fine. That's, it's like an advertisement, just like anything else. Like, if you watch, like, the news or whatever, they do, they do ad, they run ads on that, whatever. Fine.
Starting point is 01:48:20 It's like, it's a little advertisement. And then, like, my unfiltered, unpurched, unpurched opinion. It's like, you spend, you spend, your entire 40 hour work week working for a company you hate who's the grifter yeah you're the one working for a company you genuinely despise for your entire week but you know that that's that fear you know there was there was a guy there was a marine raider i was going through the the brain clinic with when i was active duty on my way out and he was like man fuck this command like you know i'm tired of this bullshit blah blah blah blah i'm like good for you bro so you know you can go in terminal leave
Starting point is 01:48:53 so you're still active duty but you're on leave and you can work like a real job, but you get paid. Yep. And so this guy is on Terminal leave wearing a contractor polo shirt in our compound. I'm like, the fuck are you doing, bro?
Starting point is 01:49:04 You just spent the last two weeks to me talking shit about how much you hate this place that stresses you out. He's like, but bro, I need the fucking money. You know,
Starting point is 01:49:12 I need the fucking money too. You know what I fucking did when I had zero dollars because I was an idiot thinking that I was going to save my way to financial freedom? All I wanted when I retired from the ring core was a range rover
Starting point is 01:49:21 and a panorama watch. That's all I wanted. And I was going to save to the dollar, to the cent, what it would cost for both those things. And on my timeline, I was going to just have enough to go pay cash and I'd be done with it. That's where my mind was at.
Starting point is 01:49:31 I didn't have shit. And so when I got out, the only liquid cash I had was my classic truck, my dream truck. So I sold that bitch. What was the truck? It was a 1952 GMC pickup. It was savage. Petty blue, white vinyl interior airbags, bro, it was nasty. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Ultimate Dad truck. What? Dat truck? Dad truck. Dad truck. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it was an ultimate fucking dope truck, bro.
Starting point is 01:49:54 It was sick. My buddy Frasers. Oh, dude. You said Rally Porsche. That's it. Frazier Super and Rally Porsches. Oh, yeah. He has literally a rally.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Oh, yeah, shit. That is so sick. Yeah. It's the first thing he did. He said, I bought a rally. Rally Porsche. I'm like, dude, that is dopey shit. That is super dope.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Oh, yeah. My big ass is going to fit in there and just drive it every day. To the lowest fall off. So what, now, what are, where can everyone find you on the internet right now? right now on the internet my my Instagram's probably my main like daily influence which is the Cody Alford so the Cody Alford that's it T-HE and then YouTube it's the same the Cody Alford and yeah I told myself like four weeks ago I'm like bro I'm like man I need someone to film for me like if I had my
Starting point is 01:50:42 film guy here I would just like be crushing it and then my my one of my best friends he comes and he's a videographer he moves back home and he's like I'm like bro we're gonna dominate didn't tell him one thing I'm like you know what fuck you Cody like you're gonna be that guy oh when I'm rich I'll be happy you know when I get jacked then I'll be nice to myself so I said fuck you and so I just been pulling on my phone and like just getting my YouTube back up I was super grateful because of everyone I broke 100,000 subscribers like a couple months ago and I'm just like yeah I stayed up to like two o'clock in the morning last night because I'm said I'm posting every Wednesday dude I'm like
Starting point is 01:51:14 I'm doing it man I've really overcomplicated a lot of things my life and so now I'm not playing ketchup I'm just doing the things that I say I do you know and not over complicate things. The amount of people, especially when it comes to social media or YouTube or whatever, that overcomplicate things. I started on a fucking iPhone. Make it efficient. I've still used my iPhone. Yeah. It's like this, people think, oh, I need this kind of camera
Starting point is 01:51:36 or I don't have this much production, whatever. It's like, no, just be you. Dude, I cleared a minefield on my second deployment with a three-day pack. I took out all my gear. We put rocks and water bottles and attached 550 cord, and I would throw that bitch and I would pull it back, drag it back. Then I would screwed up. I would put an IR Kim light on the ground.
Starting point is 01:51:54 I would throw my pack and I would drag it back. I did this at 19 years old. And then here I am with opportunity and like almost infinite resource, especially with social media, right? Like, hey, can anyone have this? People want to help you and they want to see you in, you know? And I'm like, I have every camera, every microphone that I need. And I'm not producing anything.
Starting point is 01:52:14 And I realized that was so much in my life. And I'm just so over that. I owe myself way more than I've been giving myself for the years. And like I said, I'm just stoked to do it. So yeah, YouTube and Instagram are like my main. thing. Bro. YouTube is mean. Facebook is mean, dude. They got rules. Instagram is like kind of mean, right? YouTube is like pretty fucking gnar-nar like mean. Facebook is like, oh my god damn. I didn't even know people like you existed. They're like vicious. It's like a whole, we run ads for
Starting point is 01:52:42 the hormone company that I worked for and they're like, same typical, I'm not listening to a tweaker with face tattoos that made bad life decisions. Like, bro, my life is savage as fucking I got face tattoos. It's also the age gap though on Facebook. Facebook a little bit. Dude, these are like old grifters and like bootleggers, you know, and what's the other one? Fuck, what was the other one?
Starting point is 01:53:02 What was the other one? Cumquots? Something like that. Like, you know, like... Very elegant. I click on these people's profiles, and it's like... It's the older people. It's just like, oh, hello. Picture like their puppy or their cat.
Starting point is 01:53:15 I'm like, bro, you haven't seen your dick in like a decade, dude. Like, what are you talking about? Like, and I'm the tweaker? It's because his integrity because he refuses to do steroids. That's what it is. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna put in that shit in my body.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Bitch you eat Taco Bell. It's like, you listen to anyone in the white lab coat, bro. Like, okay. Yeah, how many cans of spam
Starting point is 01:53:37 have you eaten in your life? Oh, you know, spam, man? You were jolts? Was that the, oh. That's a 40-year-old thing.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Yeah. How much caffeine was in jolts? Enough to stunt my growth, you know? It was like that poor poor man's mountain dew, right? Oh, that shit was crack.
Starting point is 01:53:54 Oh yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. Was it Joel? There was another one, the vault or something? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe was that it?
Starting point is 01:54:02 Or was it jolt? Well, jolt was the thing, right? Joel was just a green pan. Yeah. Jol was like one lightning bolt. I remember because it like Hardee's or Carl's Jr. or whatever, that was the one like growing up that they had vault in the dispenser. The dispenser thing.
Starting point is 01:54:16 The little thing you just refill it. And like as a kid, I was like, ooh, I got something I'm not supposed to have. And so I would just get geeked out on campus. caffeine for no reason. Do you remember like pressing all the things?
Starting point is 01:54:27 Like I'm gonna mix all these drinks. Now I'm like Babe, but one suicide please. Yeah. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:54:33 is this the salami I should be getting? She's like, read the package. I'm like, I don't understand the words. She's like, then don't get it.
Starting point is 01:54:39 I'm like, life used to be so easy when I'm like, ooh, pretty marketing. I'll buy that. That looks like a whole mill in one package.
Starting point is 01:54:46 You know? But fuck, dude, if you want to live and like, if you want to like, I don't know, give your body a chance
Starting point is 01:54:50 to recover from all the we've done to it. You got to actually think for yourself these days. And it's not easy. It's hard as fuck. Yeah. You know, so. Well, dude, it has been an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for coming on Unsub.
Starting point is 01:55:03 You have to come down to San Antonio. We'll do a proper one at Unsub and you can hang out for a few days. Awesome. And then we'll go to Ibogaine in Mexico. And me and Eli won't be coming back. We're going. I'm going back to Iowa. No, Nick.
Starting point is 01:55:16 You're going to Mexico. No, bro. The trees are going to start exploding when I get home. I heard about that. What? I have an exploding tree warning on the day I'm supposed to fly home. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:27 That's the thing? Yeah. Explain. Well, it's supposed to be negative 47. And when it gets that cold, the water in the trees can freeze, causing the trees to explode. Really? Yeah. Have you seen that in real life?
Starting point is 01:55:40 No, I have. I mean, I've seen videos, but like, it's not like, they don't like concussively explode, but like the real danger is like it ruins the structural integrity of the tree and then it falls on your house. house or your car or whatever the fuck. Be crazy. Like if it actually did, it's like, oh, yeah. No, it's gotten so cold that the landscaping at my house has become a claymore. I'm thinking like, tannerite explosions.
Starting point is 01:56:01 I know. Same. Damn, bro. You live in Ukraine. Like, like, dang. The Lorax has chosen violence. And on that note, thank you for coming to the unsubscribe podcast. Close us out, Mr. Brandon.
Starting point is 01:56:15 We have Eli double tap, the other Cody. Nick, the Fat Electrician, and myself, Brinan Herrera. We will see you in the next episode. Thank you. Love you, bitches. Bye.

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