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Episode Date: March 24, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What an appropriate juxtaposition there. The FC files, the Buffalo Public Schools. Release the Buffalo files. It literally showed in the report that they were trying to lie to the fucking lawyers. What? You, the legal representatives of the Buffalo Public Schools, are intentionally obstructing investigations into the abduction of children. Man, I bet you hate it when your enemies are smart.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Yeah, if you're ready for round two. Say hi to Eli. He's racially ambiguical. Brandon. His hair is fucking fabulous. Don't I? A dark joke disposition. There's a fat electrician.
Starting point is 00:00:40 We'll come to unsubscribe. Yeah, no shit. Welcome to the absolute. You're ready. Get Ed drenched in the mouth. That poor guy does. We'll never talk shit about a podcast ever again. He can get dranched.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Three, two, one. Foul on three. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the unsubscribe podcast. a.k.a. The Absolutely Fowl podcast. We are joined today by Eli Double Tap, Nick, the fat electrician, Rich, angry cops, and myself, Donut operator. Thank you for joining. Donut. Thank you for having us. Thanks, Cody. Brandon is busy with his election right now. And I step in, you know. We're super excited to see how that goes. This is our last, our last podcast with normal civilian Brandon Herrera,
Starting point is 00:01:26 probably. Oh, no, we've got a long ways to go. I don't believe you. No. Well, I mean, at the bare minimum January. In District 23, Dog branded. All right, we can't do that. We can't. Cut that part. No, we can't do that. No, we cannot. Two seconds. We just bleep all of what you said and then like, you can't do that. I like that. It's true. Today we have an update because in the last couple of weeks, what was released to Mr. Rich? Oh, the findings of the law, not law enforcement, but the Oh, geez, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:02:03 Investigation. Yeah, I know the investigation, but the investigation was run by whom? Law firm. Law firm, thank you. Independent investigator. Yeah, an independent investigator hired by the Buffalo Public School System. And this, how dare you, first of all, my mind's all erased. I have so many things that I want to go over that I can't think clearly.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Basically, long and the short of it is, a bunch, I came on this podcast and wept like a bitch for a couple minutes and then told everybody how bad the Buffalo public school systems were. and then the news ridiculed me and said, look at this idiot talking about something that we should focus on, but we'll choose not to focus on. Look at this guy, and they have alcoholic beverages on the table, and he burped once. We should ignore the allegations he's made as an SVU detective about the sql improprieties that are happening with our children
Starting point is 00:02:50 in our public school systems. Right. He already sounds like he's going to be president. God, no, never. District 23 needs a president. And that man is Brandon Herrera. So we, you know, obviously the autistic army pushes back rightfully so and says, hey, how much you focus on the facts that this guy's bringing up to which gets a lot of eyeballs on it, to which changes the information that came out about the most egregious incident that I talked about, which was the attempted abduction of two children at a Buffalo Public School that was mishandled by the Buffalo Public School system, which we'll get into as we discussed the findings of this investigation. And then, well, yeah, that led to the investigation from the Buffalo Public Schools via this law firm that they hired to look into things, which, if I'm not mistaken, I know they talked to me a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I really talked to Nick. I'm not sure if you gave them the binder or gave them the binder. Made a copy of it. Which was pretty substantial. And now, just a little over a week ago, they came out with their findings from the investigation. Real quick, if we ever did want to, like, not to interrupt too early, but if we ever. did want to do a fundraiser to, you know, get independent lawyers or something on this, if you did as merch signed copies of the binder and everything that was in it, you know you could
Starting point is 00:04:11 raise some money doing that. This is true. Have all the unsubed podcast sign a copy of all of your findings in the binder. It's like sponsored Epstein files. I like it. Epson files brought to you by Pepsi. Except hopefully we actually hold some people accountable in this game. Well, just like the EFSI file, Brandon.
Starting point is 00:04:28 you might be disappointed in the fact of how few people are out accountable at the end of this. What an appropriate juxtaposition there. The Epstein files and the investigation ending with the Buffalo Public Schools. Release the Buffalo files. Release the Buffalo files. It was crazy watching all of our reactions and then just combing through it and be like, oh, oh, oh, nothing is going to happen. And then when you start really digging deep into it, you see all the problems. They were like, so what did they say?
Starting point is 00:05:03 We've investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing. It was not that bad. He was, I mean, he can only go so hard, but I mean, basically the gist of the entire thing is the podcast made this allegation. The podcast was correct for like 90% of it. And then when we got to the actual case, like the probably the biggest allegation. which was the deleting of the footage. They had like a three-page, very complicated, elaborate excuse for how it was a failure of their systems and nobody's actual fault. So did they or didn't then?
Starting point is 00:05:43 I had to read it four times to kind of understand what the fuck they were saying. They're trying to say that no individual person actually hit delete. Correct. Okay. And it goes to that level of even the kidnapping. Well, we can't confirm this story. And it's just he said, she said, and you have nothing done with it. It's like, oh, well, sorry, we tried, couldn't confirm it.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Oh, we did our job. And that was even, wasn't it for the kidnapping too? So I'll say for most of it, right? For most of the things where they say we can't confirm it, it's them, I feel being honest where they say, we didn't, we couldn't get any information regarding this because of A, B, or C. And I'll tell you what those things are. And so we could. We couldn't confirm that, but we also couldn't deny any of that.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And I'll give you an example. So for one of the cases that I brought up where a young woman got by a young man, they're both students in a school, I believe was in northern Buffalo. And the young girl told the principal, the principal did her own investigation, didn't report it. which is a mandated reporter, you have to. And then a year later, one of the girl, either the girl or one of the girl's friends, stated, hey, this happened to so-and-so, or me, I forget. And then it was investigated by the district attorney's office and Buffalo Police and the district attorney, the assistant district attorney in charge of that case,
Starting point is 00:07:16 sent a subpoena to the school principal, and the school principal said, I'm not going to reply to the subpoena, I will not come in, I did my own investigation, I found it unfounded, I'm not coming in. for this. So I didn't know you could just choose to do that. Yeah, well, you can't. Well, there you go. You know, but you know, if you have a district attorney that's not going to do anything, you can do whatever you want to do. And that's one of the issues, right, is for that specific case, one, the Buffalo Police Department could not give out any information because it is a case that involves juveniles. So you're limited, and I see where they're limited, and the information that
Starting point is 00:07:53 you can give out regarding juveniles to FOIA request or Freedom of Information Act, or foil of information legislation. They're limited. But the district attorney's office, and this is kind of par for the course for all of the district attorneys, just about involvement in this, except for the abduction case, would not assist the law firm in its investigation.
Starting point is 00:08:20 So specifically for that case that I just brought up with the young girl being assaulted in the school by the pool and the principal getting a subpoena, I know for a fact that that principal's letter is in the file, the investigatory file, along with a subpoena by the assistant district attorney. But the district attorney's office will not supply that information to the investigative body that law firm. Why? God fucking knows. Because it makes them look bad?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Because it, well, because it probably does make the district attorney look as though, hey, my legal authority, I will not choose to. enforce that illegal authority that I was voted in for when it comes to the assault or the misrepresentation under reporting the salle of a child or specifically the I'm not going to follow the law and answer your subpoena which is insane if you are the district attorney of an area and I'm some turd and you say you here's a subpoena to me you have to show up yeah and I go fuck you I'm not going do it. And then you sit there with your thumb and your ass and go, well, I guess I'm not going to do anything. Everybody else now goes, oh, sweet, this guy's not going to do anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Which is exactly what I believe happened with the Buffalo Public Schools legislative body, or not legislative body, but their judicial body, their legal representation. They said, oh, on many occasions, not just that one, they're not going to do anything. So we don't have to do anything. We don't have to show up when they say you like that. And part of the investment was that the legal representatives for the school were investigated by this law firm, and it's two lawyers talking to one another. So Jesus Christ, like, could you, it's two rats fighting over a dead corpse. Like, what do we tell you? I could give a shit. So anyway, it's two peas in a pod. And unfortunately, that dead corpse is the corpse of a child. So what the investigation found was that there wasn't a good, check the box verification system for subpoenas being sent to the school or individuals or the legal representatives for the school and that that's where this not answering subpoena's issue comes forward.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And what they basically say in the investigation is that for that incident, and I believe others, the school legal representatives aren't given a subpoena. the MOP for the schools is that if you are a person given a subpoena, it is your responsibility to then send that subpoena to the legal representation of the schools. Right. And then both of you talk about it or go through some sort of brick or bracker brack. And then you go over to the DA's office with representation about what you can talk about,
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Starting point is 00:12:52 And even if that's not where you heard about them, lie. sends its regards. So, well, before we go like too deep into the weeds, like into the minutia of it, like what, what's the big picture looking like right now? Like, where are we at? Like, what's the findings of the entire investigation? Like, nuts and bolts of it. So this is what's frustrating, right? The entire investigation is like the final paragraph. And it's the investigatory body, that law firm, and they say, we have found systemic problems in the Buffalo Public Schools reporting policies and other policies. Big word here, systemic in the system brought apart by the system.
Starting point is 00:13:34 But we find no individual responsible for any of the actions to include, get ready for this, the people in charge of the system that run the system that make the rules and enforce the system, the Buffalo Public School. Thank God, because it's everybody and not one specific person, then we can't hold anyone accountable. Right. If only, we could hold the people for accountable that made the rules that kept us here in this stagnant place, but we can't because it's not their fault, which is the whole thing that made me really frustrated was there's a problem. What's that? They did say, but we recommended new things.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Oh, we recommended some changes, which I'm okay. You want to recommend some changes? That's cool. Some of them were blacked out because it's like security policies when it comes to the schools, which. I understand. You know, hey, this is me and you talking about security for schools. That conversation does not need to be public. Let's not tell the criminals how to circumvent, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yeah. I mean, which is, I mean, do you even need to tell the criminals how to circumvent the system? You could just not follow subpoenas by the district attorney's office and then break into a school and do whatever you want because it's a systemic problem. And we haven't changed the system yet. And we're not holding anybody accountable in charge of the system. So what do we do from here? Like, what's the, is there any recourse here? Or is it just kind of like where this is where we're at?
Starting point is 00:14:54 Right? This is this is we were discussing this earlier. This is where we're at. Now, before you. Do we have to censor what the next step? No, but it's your fault. I was going to say like I saw you like, I saw a bunch of wood piled up in the backyard. I didn't know if we were building a guillotine?
Starting point is 00:15:10 No. So you know how because of the Tony thing, it's become like common knowledge on the internet that Congress has like a slush fund for settling assault allegations? Which is crazy. Which is crazy, right? Like, for those who didn't follow, I basically, like, accidentally kicked off Me Too DC edition. Yeah. Where there is legitimately a slush fund that Congress has with millions of dollars for dealing with allegations of... Where does the money come from?
Starting point is 00:15:37 I'm still trying to determine whether or not it's taxpayer or donor funded. Either way is bad. Wild. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like... Yeah, no, this is just a general fund that set aside knowing the fact that, you know, I'm sure people are accused of things they haven't done. but also just kind of the underlying assumption is,
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Starting point is 00:16:21 going to have to defend these allegations at some point. So we'll just, we'll keep a pool going for whenever that comes up. It's not a one-off where it's like, oh, we'll build this from a case-to-case basis. Like, oh, shit, John, who's very innocent guy, he got hit with this. Hey, let's raise some money. This is, eh, we'll just, this is going to happen a lot. We'll have a well built for that, which is wild to do. That got me thinking about slush funds and unsubs been threatened to have been sued multiple times,
Starting point is 00:16:45 not for sexual assault allegations, but for other things, mostly talking to share on the internet. Taxpayer funded settlements. Jesus. Yeah. That's disgusting. And how much my, just for reference, $10 to $15 million? Yeah, and it varies on a year to year basis,
Starting point is 00:17:01 but apparently in 2017, it was revealed that at least $300,000 in public funds had been used to settle harassment claims against congressional offices. Tony Gonzalez is looking at that, like we gotta bump those numbers up. Most of rookie numbers. He's not going to have to worry about it much longer.
Starting point is 00:17:13 AIDL? Anyways, that got me thinking unsub should just have a slush fund for next time we get threatened to get sued for like, I don't know, calling out of school district or ruining a politician's career because we're probably going to get sued at some point. We've had multiple threats already. I agree. Well, not only that, but also the we double down on them. Yeah, well, what's funny is that these, like the theater, like the theater that threatened to sue us, what they're, what they're used to dealing with. Can we say this now? Can we
Starting point is 00:17:37 talk about this now? We can't talk about it yet, like, but like a theater. Okay, so we'll blank, that out. But there was a theater that we had an issue with that is used to bullying, starving artists and, you know, musicians and whatever. And they didn't realize like, oh, every person on that stage is independently pretty well off. We can't be bullied like that. They're like, oh, well, we're going to sue you. And we're like, fucking bring it. We're bored.
Starting point is 00:18:02 They got a hold of our agent. And our agent is like, if you guys don't do X, Y, Z, they're going to involve lawyers and sue you. And our official response was, LOL send it. Was that the actual response? Yes. Hell, yeah. Dude, if I was working on their end and I got. that as a response, I'd be like, oh.
Starting point is 00:18:20 They said L-O-L-Send it. Could you imagine that, like in any other scenario? Like, America has been Christed. Arrider. Tell them error. Err-er-er-er-S-R-R. I mean, it's any kind of battle. It is reading it.
Starting point is 00:18:36 It's like, we're going to attack you. Be prepared. They get a note back. It's like, dope. Pigeon said, have fun. Huh. All caps, L-O-L. Like, that's, well, maybe we talk.
Starting point is 00:18:48 he might be making a mistake. They sent back an eggplant emoji. So the slush fund idea, which we still should do, also got me thinking, why doesn't unsub just have our own pack money for influencing politics and like doing legal stuff? We could have come pack and then we could, I don't know. Citizens United. Give money to whoever's running for district attorney of Erie County in New York. That's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Like really, like not even just like to prop up people because like I don't want it in fucking money. No, I want to use it to take down bad people. Exactly. Use it as like, oh, it's the asshole punishment fund. Yes. Yes, that's what I want. APF.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I want to raise a pact just so like, we're, like we're going to start with the DA, but it can just go from there. Like we could have a stamp of approval and it's like the fist. I just like you don't have a stamp of approval. It's a mark of people we don't like. It just becomes a thing. Like whenever we endorse somebody, they have an issue now. I mean, I honestly, I love the idea of,
Starting point is 00:19:47 I think we should do it. But comp. Oh, no. I hate how much terror. Cubs coming after me. Comes on me, guys. They're on to me. Because we were talking to is like, do you just have a fun that just doesn't get taxed or
Starting point is 00:20:00 touch and we build it? We don't know. We have to do that. Yeah, what can you do with PAC money once you like if you like, if you. There are a lot of restrictions. Yeah. There's, I know there's a lot of rules with it. A lot of people use them as an opportunity because like there are a max out amounts for
Starting point is 00:20:13 different campaigns. And it's different state to state and whether it's federal, state, local, whatever amounts that an individual. can donate to a campaign. But you can do, like, people use packs because there's no, there's no limit on what you can give to a pack, at least in most cases. So, like, you can give, you know, if I could only give $5,000 to you as a candidate, well, now I can give $100,000 to this pack.
Starting point is 00:20:35 The only thing is, it's illegal for the candidate to conspire with the pack. Like, you can't have that direct communication. Like, oh, yeah, donate to my pack that I run. By the way, and the candidate have complete control. role over the advertisement, shit like that. Like, they've got their own board. Like, it has to be separate. That being said, we're not collaborating with any politician.
Starting point is 00:20:55 We're motherfucking them. So we're lazing targets. I feel like that's completely. What about you, though, would we have, like, if come? Is there a pack that we could use that could support you? The C pack? Yeah. Is there a pack of some sort?
Starting point is 00:21:09 For Brandon? Well, I actually. There's got to be a pack we could use. Yeah, there's got to be a pack out there. I did start a pack at some, at a certain point, or I wanted to, called a based pack. We were just going to go, like, and this is before I thought it was going to know. I don't know if I like it. I like it's so on the nose.
Starting point is 00:21:26 It's just going to be like, again, like going, uh, giving the good guys support and stuff like this. But it's also much more exciting to just punish bad people. I like that. Oh yeah. Punisher pack. All right. Eli's sick. I got to do the ad today.
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Starting point is 00:22:44 The only hose. Mrs. Fat Electrician is going to actually let me have. That's the ad. Goodbye. I may have looked into it and the best I can tell, the most expensive district attorney race in Erie County history was right around $200,000. Oh, Lord. And it would make me very happy to come with more than that and just give him a message right as his campaign spilling up. Congratulations. You're now involved in the most expensive DA race of all time. I hate how powerful CPAC compact would get because I truly believe. that can raise a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:17 It could get dangerous really quick. I mean, we've got a couple years. Do you think CPAC, do you think Compaq could, like, I don't know, change the election of Erie County District Attorney's Office? I feel like it probably could. I feel like we could do that ourselves. We really could. That could get dangerous.
Starting point is 00:23:32 But think about how much more we could do. Yeah, because then it's actual change and it's going towards something and then millions raised really quickly. I mean, how hard would it be for the city of Buffalo and the people of Erie County to, like, raise a little bit of money and be like, oh, hey, this guy's not working with trying to put, you know, people who are abusing our children behind bars are holding the schools accountable. I mean, I feel like that's a pretty easy win-winnable race.
Starting point is 00:23:51 The thing is, you'd also want to find a candidate that you like. You'd want to find somebody who actually represents, I don't know, the thing a DA is supposed to do. Like a good lawyer? Like, maybe a lawyer that's rich. If you won your election exclusively because some PAC relentlessly slandered your opponent on the internet and ruined their career and then overfunded you, I bet you'd be on your fucking P's and Q's the entire time. You'd hope so, but also we're talking about their money goes to destroying people. They don't back anyone.
Starting point is 00:24:20 They're like, this is way scary. We're also talking about a perfect storm of someone who's both a politician and a lawyer. So I wouldn't put a lot past them. I'll also say this. Just, you know, as a man in, you know, media, I look for advertisements. And did you know that the local billboards across the 190 in the city of Buffalo, it's a major vein that goes through the city. it's only like $10,000 could get you about five billboards for an entire month going up and down the interstate that goes directly through the city of Buffalo. And the best part is whoever puts those billboards up gets to choose what's on them.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Oh man. That's crazy. Huh. Oh, well. It's okay. What if? It's not like the DA's dad who was super wealthy had the judge seal a court case where he got a DUI in college so nobody knew about it forever. that would be crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I'm sure that's, well, that's one out of five. All right. We got four more. Well, you know what? There's got to be a reason other than poor leadership that the assistant district attorneys with, I don't know, experience have been fleeing the district, the Erie County District Attorney's Office over the past year. I mean, it's like it's like eight, have resigned and gone somewhere else, if not more.
Starting point is 00:25:35 In like the span of 12 months? I didn't really, 18 months. I didn't know that. Was it from you? Geez, I don't know. I don't know. It's almost like there are people that are tired of seeing bad people get away with murder. Sometimes, literally.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Or child. Or just a lack of, oh, geez, what would you call that? Accountability. Accountability is the term. Yeah. It was crazy reading, again, the document and seeing they tried to sweep the lady flipping off on the cameras under the rug. They're like, well, she said it didn't happen. Oh, they talked about that too.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Yeah. And they said, we were not sure if we can confirm it. They were like, oh, it's water under the bridge. Yeah. And they tried to. I will say reading that, I did have a pretty big smile on my face because I was like, that's from my binder. That's from my binder.
Starting point is 00:26:25 That's from my binder. That's like they were, I'm not shitting you. Screenshots of documents that I had acquired are exhibit evidence in this report where it's like. And he kind of fucking scorches them on the shelter in place thing. I don't know if you remember that part. So there is a portion of it. I think you'll do a better job of explaining it because you kind of touched on it before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Go ahead. So basically when the school, when the guy broke into the school and was potentially abducting children or trying to abduct children, the school has protocols. And there's like three tiers of what you tell the school members. So they know how to act accordingly. There is shelter in place, which is the lowest tier. which is like there's inclement weather, like a tornado outside. It basically says we're going to lock the exterior doors, stay inside, right? And then there's an intermediary one, which I forget, and then there's lockdown.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And lockdown means that there's an interior threat to the school, and every teacher needs to get the students in the classrooms, lock the classroom doors, and take a roll call to account for all the kids. I think the intermediate one is lock out. Lock out, yeah, correct. Sorry. Shelter in place, you don't lock any doors. You just stay inside. lock out as you lock the exterior doors for like a tornado or whatever. But there's an exterior threat that could try to get in.
Starting point is 00:27:46 But they did the shelter in place. They did shelter in place, which is the lowest tier one. And this is after been, you guys already brought up this door should be locked. The side doors. Oh. So yeah, the this is, we already brought this fact up. Like I know people that have worked in that school before and people in the, uh, the science Museum and the doors that the individual got in, the doors from the school, there's a set of doors
Starting point is 00:28:15 at the school and the museum share. So if you're in the museum, you can access the doors to the school. If you're in the school, you can access the doors to the museum and go through the museum. Cool. Interesting for learning spaces. But those doors have been broken and have not been locked for over a year. And I believe it was over a year at that point when the gentleman or the guy broke in to go abduct, potentially abduct the kids.
Starting point is 00:28:39 So those doors were unlocked, knew they were a problem, was brought up by security individuals, and then that's how the guy got into the school. Lockdown or not, he still would have gotten in because those school doors were unsecured and had been unsecured for a year over. Right. But had they called lockdown, the teachers would have known to get the kids into classrooms and lock the doors. Correct. Yes. In communities across Canada, hourly Amazon employees earn an average of over $24.50. cents an hour. Employees also have the opportunity to grow their skills and their paycheck by enrolling in free skills training programs for in-demand fields like software development and
Starting point is 00:29:20 information technology. Learn more at aboutamazon.ca. Oh, I had broke that in the original video saying they called shelter in place, not lockdown, which is insane. And then I had acquired the letter they sent home to parents, which said that they went into shelter in place, which downplays the entire event to the parents. And then in the thing, they're like, no, we talked to the leadership. They said they did lock down. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, which we find hard to believe because this letter that we acquired from
Starting point is 00:29:59 me clearly says that you told the parents that you went into shelter in place. And then there was like, I had three other pieces of evidence that showed that they went into shelter in place. And it was like, it literally showed in the. the report that they were trying to lie to the lawyers. That was my interpretation of it, at least when I read it. But they were trying to tell the lawyer, no, no, no, no, no. There was a miscommunication.
Starting point is 00:30:19 There was a miscommunication. We went into lockdown and even the lawyer, like, couldn't even deny. He's like, well, then why did you tell all the parents that you went into shelter and place? He's like, I interviewed like other people that also were adamant that it was shelter in place, not locked down. Like, it was insane. Hey, dad didn't a guy. I'm going to interview you about if you killed a guy. Oh.
Starting point is 00:30:39 he says he didn't do it damn it's almost like you're the Buffalo Public Schools and I'm like did you fuck this up and you're like no I've got a letter where you said you killed that guy I have a letter where you said you did it what Water under the bridge
Starting point is 00:30:55 Right the dad didn't even know the bridge Right he was I found out from the video that my kids were Potentially abducted He found out from us Basically the podcast is what got him to get involved
Starting point is 00:31:11 and via either the podcast and his involvement, I forget which, but there was two months, I think you said, after the date. I thought it was like six. I saw it was six is when I was like, I found out my kid was interacted with this. Period.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Either way, months, months after the fact that the attempted abduction happened. Imagine finding out that your kids almost got abducted from a fucking, from strangers on the internet. From us. Yeah. Yeah, guys that really, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Guys that Terrify the internet. Oh yeah, foul people that, you know, call out shitty. Raise money for autism. How dare we? Mm. It's wild.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Brandon, what kind of shirt is that? I'm glad you asked, Eli. This is a poncho. Brandon and I actually wear poncho so much. We constantly end up wearing the same nice poncho shirt. Good thing nobody's ever pointed that out before. Now, if you guys have ever seen one of our live shows or this podcast in general, you'll see Brandon and I wearing these incredibly comfortable,
Starting point is 00:32:11 great-looking shirts all the time. Finn, pull it up with pictures. They're literally always wearing the same shirt. I got turned on a poncho like a year ago. I've been wearing them ever since. Personally, I think this is the Western because it's got the Pearl Snacks. Because it's hot in Texas, and I like something breathable. Who's the thing I find really cool?
Starting point is 00:32:29 Brandon, do the glasses trick. So ponchos have this neat little thing in the pocket where you just take your glasses. No, the other one. Be more specific. Let's get the shit about that. All right. Watch everyone. So if you got fat fingers and you smudge your glasses all the time,
Starting point is 00:32:44 the bottom of the shirt actually acts, it has like a microfiber so you can clean your glasses. I make him clean my phones. He does. I like the hidden little pocket on the breast. Wait, what? Right over here. Got a little zipper pocket.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I didn't even know about that one. Is that where you hold Cody's heart? And his drugs. Things you might need to know. Pancho has put a lot of thought detail into each one of their shirts. Oh, holy sh- They're soft.
Starting point is 00:33:10 They're really soft. Yo, what? That's my one thing is fucking fabric sensitivity. I don't wear uncomfortable shirts. This is comfy as f***. That's where we wear them all the time. So poncho's got a bunch of great styles, the original Western denim and ultra light.
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Starting point is 00:33:50 Let's, okay. Did you understand what the fuck they were trying to say in like the three pages where they articulate why the video got deleted or how it was misplaced? I had to read it three times and I'm going to be honest, I still don't completely understand what the fuck they're trying to say. So what it looked like to me is it was it was legal jargon gobbly gook for nobody's taking accountability but because nobody's taking accountability we don't have a finger to point, right? And I'll tell you this because when I read it, they were saying, okay, the the school's point of view from this and this is the legal and we're going to get into this because there's an obstruction portion of this, which is huge that if anybody gets
Starting point is 00:34:32 anything on to this. The obstruction portion of this story is massive. So the school's complaint to the district attorney's office where they requested video of it was that the district attorney's request was too vague and that the district attorney's request, the ADA that had the case was we need all video camera footage regarding this incident. Right. So while this investigation happens of the law firm looking into the school about this the video footage that was like not totally sent over to the district attorney's office. Their findings was... What do you mean not totally sent over? So a little refresher. The reason why there was an issue with the one parent not knowing that their child was involved. So originally it came
Starting point is 00:35:24 out as one potential abduction. And then after our interview and media attention, And it came out that there was a second child that was attempted to be abducted during this. And that second child's family was not told about it for a while. That's why we brought up the dad that found out his kid was not abducted until 60 days or six months later. And one of the issues with that, the main cause of that was that the district attorney's office didn't have all of the video from the schools after they requested all the video from that incident. And it was only when somebody from the schools had good intentions and had previously recorded a portion from a specific video camera in the school showing the second child was being abducted, not just the first, but that there was a second involved. And then sent that to the district attorney's office, that then the district attorney reviewed that footage and said, oh, my God, there's a second kid involved. So exactly what you said happened.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Pretty much. Okay. Okay, so it's inexcusable that months after me as a parent coming into the school, coming to the school at night, coming to the school during the day, coming to the school every day that I did not know that my son is one of the first persons that this person encountered. Months. And he's there apparently every day and he's like, yo, what the fuck? So the investigation from the lawyer's office, the legal team, they find out that. and this is their response is that the district attorney's request for video evidence of the entire incident was so vague that people who reviewed the video footage were like, oh, there's three cameras down this hallway. We'll give you one of the cameras.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Even if all three of the video cameras recorded the incident at different angles and perhaps different times, we'll only give you one. Is there a word for like when you want everything pertaining to something or like all, oh, there's a word all. Yeah. Involving the incident. We would like all video involving the incident. I'm sorry. Was that too vague?
Starting point is 00:37:36 All the footage is wild. They're like, oh, here. All footage. There's three cameras of this situation. We will provide all three. Not like, well, we didn't know you wanted all three angles. If there's, forgive me for a moment. I'm going to spitball for a, for a, for a second.
Starting point is 00:37:50 If there is a break it into a school and a child is nearly abducted by the person and that person assaults school staff and then the district attorney's office, not the police, the district attorney's office says, give me all the video of this incident. To me, a reasonable person, I would be like, I want every camera from 10 minutes before this guy's on our soil to an hour after all the police leave. and we're going to give them all of those gigabytes of data. That sounds like all. That sounds like all. I'm not going to delete any. I'm going into this like they asked for one thing. I'm going to give them everything.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I'm definitely not the person to pick and choose what is good evidence. How is this fuck is all too vague? I don't understand. I don't get it. I think it's specific. It's specific. I would like all of your camera footage from this time to that time. If I hold this up and Brandon asks me,
Starting point is 00:38:47 how much of that did you drink, Nick? And I say all of it. You're being too vague. The cans, empty dickheads. What are we talking about? For a crime where it is, they want that angle.
Starting point is 00:39:04 It's not really good. Like, you know what? We need to prove that we did everything possible here. I mean, it's not even that like the angle's not very good. You left out a whole ass kid. You're not qualified to homeschool your kids. You need. to send them to me because I'm a professional.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Also, I don't know what the word all means. What are we talking about? Also, I forgot to mention your child was abducted. Also that. Yeah. Sorry about that, bro. So the school. Oh, you wanted me to be accountable for all the kids.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Oh. Are you sure? That's a great line to bring up. Hey, are you responsible for all the kids? Because are you concerned or do you not know what all means when it comes to children? It seems so. One of the parents is warned. That's all.
Starting point is 00:39:47 of them. I thought, the kids should have told you. What the fuck? Which they tried to blame the kids. Carry the one. They tried to blame, they actually tried to blame the kids themselves. We thought the parents would talk or the children would say something. That was like one of the statements.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I think that's like, I forget what that was about. But still sticking on the video thing. So the legal team looking into it, they're, findings were, hey, there's not like a specific MOP for evidence collection or video collection, manual of procedures, specifically written down on how they're supposed to retrieve it and give it to the Buffalo Police Department or the district attorney's office. And because that request was vague, they weren't really sure how to do all of it or whatever, right?
Starting point is 00:40:44 So that's one of the things. And we've kind of hit on how ridiculous that is. The other thing, which is massive here, and this is what I want people to really focus on, is the obstruction, is they say, we did not find any obstruction from the Buffalo Public Schools or their legal representatives during this investigation. Now, here's an important piece of information here that they quote and they bring up in this, well, in the investigation. And that is the investigating attorney say, here is a quote from an email from the district attorney's office, quote, the assistant district attorney to the legal team representing the school of Buffalo City Schools. Your lack of transparency and hiding behind FERPA, which I'll get into in a second, is and your inability to share requested subpoenaed evidence with us is obstructing our investigation. Well, that's an interesting choice of words.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Which, and this is where I go nuts. This is where I go nuts. Which the attorneys looking into the investigation, the investigating body says, although obstruction is a word commonly used in legal terms for preventing and an arrestable offense for preventing or obstructing an investigation. The district attorney's office, the lawyers, saying you're obstructing my investigation. That's not actually obstruction. that's just like they're using the term. They don't actually mean the word.
Starting point is 00:42:19 They don't mean what they said they mean. Dude, 100% and you can read it for yourself. I have it. I shit you not. I wrote down the page. Also, real quick, I just love the fact that like Eli knew
Starting point is 00:42:28 to turn down your mic to the degree that you'd be shouting into it. But I saw you peeking my mic. I was like, which is very funny. Connor, what are you doing? I'm fuming, brother.
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Starting point is 00:44:10 the board urges all community members to review it with an open mind and commitment to constructive dialogue, focusing on forward-looking recommendations rather than seeking to assign blame. Page 37 and 39 of the report, which is if you open it, there's a PDF document. I hope that there's a link somewhere. Page 37 states in the mid-paragraph that the school's legal team is obstructing, quote, obstructs investigation from the DA's office. And on page 39, the top paragraph states, The DA's office found it obstructive, but we don't find it as obstruction to the investigation in like a legal definition, arrestable form, which makes zero sense.
Starting point is 00:45:04 There are good attorneys in this world, but half of them should be flogged publicly. They also go on to state that the video deletion of the kidnapping is okay. is quote neglectful, but that nobody is in, nobody's, nobody's at fault. That's the thing. They just, no one's at fault. And we were discussing it. It's just no one's huddle cannibal. They're like, well, okay, well, are you happy with that?
Starting point is 00:45:31 Hey, make sure any particular findings must not translate into harassment threats or intimidation directed at anyone. The path board requires collaboration, not division, as we work to create the safest That shit. Do your job, or I'll make sure you get fired. Yeah. Oh, bingo. Well, here's the thing that pisses me off is like this idea that, okay, yes, a failure did happen. But nobody failed. It's like, okay, well, I'm sorry, but I think those two sentences are completely incompatible with each other.
Starting point is 00:46:03 If a failure had occurred with your organization that allowed something bad to happen, cool, let's fix it, right? But to be able to say that nobody failed at anything. There's no one individual actually didn't do their job. I'm like, well, that doesn't make any fucking sense, frankly. We did the math for what was the percentage 0.03 reported as... Can we talk about that? They talk about that. Okay, never mind.
Starting point is 00:46:29 We can't talk about it yet. We can't talk about it yet. Math doesn't math. We can't talk about it yet. I'm going to have him FOIA request it, and then we're going to talk about it. Because it's one of those things that I'm aware of, but we have to FOIA request it. What would you want to see done now or because of this? What's the disappointment?
Starting point is 00:46:46 You're like, okay, this needs to happen. So here's the disappointment, right? And a lot of it comes to that specific incident because it was such a good, a horrible incident, but such a good representation of how the Buffalo school systems do not work with the district attorney's office at the Buffalo Police Department, right? At Desjardin, our business is helping yours. We are here to support your business through every stage of growth. from your first pitch to your first acquisition. Whether it's improving cash flow or exploring investment banking solutions,
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Starting point is 00:47:43 It's going to take you five, ten minutes. The investigating body writes in their findings. The district attorney's office is emailing the legal team representing the city of Buffalo public schools stating you are intentionally misinterpreting law so that you can defeat an investigation and obstruct an investigation into the. abduction of children. That is a fact. That is 100% of fact.
Starting point is 00:48:16 If anybody can get anything out of this, 100% fact is that the investigation found the district attorney's office emailed, stating you the legal representatives of the Buffalo Public Schools are intentionally misrepresenting legal doctrine and obstructing investigations into the abduction of children. full stop. That is a fact in the investigation. If you are a parent of any child in that school, if you are a taxpayer in the city of Buffalo, the fact that a legal team in the city school system is intentionally via the district attorney's office obstructing investigations into the welfare of your children. I don't know how you're not lighting that place on fire.
Starting point is 00:49:07 metaphorically. In Minecraft. There we go. Because, I mean, as a future parent, it's one of the most terrifying things. My kid's never going to go to a Buffalo public school. But there are kids that don't have the option. This is where I get passionate about.
Starting point is 00:49:28 I'm sorry from yelling, but I am. No, yell. It piss me off. So I'm never going to send my kid to a city of Buffalo, Buffalo Public School. Fucking ever. Because they're so corrupt and horrible. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Case in point for what I just said about the investigation. I'm not. You are. All those families that don't have an option to send their kids to public school, all those families that are working two jobs that are trying to make ends meet where you don't have a choice. You have to send them to public school. That's it.
Starting point is 00:50:00 You're fucked. Unless. If you don't do anything. Yep. If you don't do anything. So if this is the time, if this is the moment where you're going to ignore all the evidence on the table and do absolutely nothing. Sounds like at the very least the, the,
Starting point is 00:50:17 the, uh, the DA needs to get shit canned. When's he up for election again? Three years. No, it's center. It's in my phone. Like two and a calendar. I knew Nick would, would keep a tally. Yeah, we're, we're, we're looking at to see if anything changes.
Starting point is 00:50:31 What do you do? What would you recommend for individuals? Because this is, we found out it's way bigger than just Buffalo. Oh, yeah. During our time. It was like, holy shit. This is not just. in Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Turns out incompetent government employees are everywhere. Yeah. If you're going to a public school, light me on fire. And that's what's crazy about it. It's fucking terrifying. Be like, oh, this is the best option we have. No, no.
Starting point is 00:50:55 You can start making changes at a local level and holding people accountable when you get a piece of paper. It's like, ah, dude, they tried. Yeah. The changes that need to happen in my mind are all the female friends and representatives in the Buffalo public school system,
Starting point is 00:51:16 those people that are on the board that hitched their ponies to the superintendent that recently retired and had that school named after her, which is disgusting. What a horrible self-blovied pat on the back that is that you'll allow all this to happen and then get an award by having a school auditorium named after you.
Starting point is 00:51:35 You fat, idiot. Anywho, anybody that hitched their ponies and it's not hard to find them. One of them is the woman that flipped off everybody on that fucking call. Needs to 100% be called to resign and replaced with somebody a parent or a teacher that cares about these kids. Because I'm telling you right now, except for a handful, and I mean literally like two or three or four people on the board that I've already talked to, they all need to go. Including the new guy. I can make it easy.
Starting point is 00:52:08 all the the vast majority of people that like hardline supported her believe it or not they're all in the same sorority in college oh there you go all the women in the same sound that out the good old gal system yeah so there's that uh it's just oh and the other thing too is like those the ag's office needs to investigate the buffalo public schools legal team or the bar does because of their inability to do their job or answer subpoenas and hide behind legal statutes like FERPA, which, by the way, so I was wondering because I didn't know that acronym. Here's what FERPA is. It's F-E-R-P-A.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I forget exactly what it stands for, but it basically protects students' information. So if you're a dad of a child, you can request their information. If you're a stranger on the internet that, like, got upset about something and maybe the kids involved in some sort of like criminal aspect or as the victim of some sort of criminal aspect and you like go to the school and say I want that kid's information the school can say no right right just it's privacy protection yes but it's very limited so FERPA is I'm requesting Nick's grades his report card his attendance record it's specifically for that yeah that's what FERPA belongs to not criminal activity so it doesn't mean that if you
Starting point is 00:53:37 go to a school and you stab a kid and then I come up as a Buffalo police officer asking your teacher or administrator of the school, what's your name and date of birth? They can't say, I can't give you that because it's FERPA. But what the Buffalo public school system is doing is literally, this is not an exaggeration, is literally in cases of violence and assault. Be a student on student or assault when it's a student onto a teacher or a faculty member to include people that clean up the schools, which happens, I will show up or other detectives will show up or officers will show up and say, hey school, we need the name of the student that assaulted Jimmy the janitor and broke his mouth wide open and sent him to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:54:22 But what's happening is the school is saying, no, we can't give you that information because it's FERPA. And what happened in the investigation with the kids being abducted is exactly that. The Buffalo schools or the Buffalo Police Department and the district attorney's office said we need the information to the victims. Who was there? Who were the children that were in the classrooms that he got into? Because he got into classrooms and like poked his head in was just like, hey, what's going on? And then like got a sudden.
Starting point is 00:54:48 They were, sorry to derail a little bit. Did they ever figure out what his deal was? Like why he was there? He had schizophrenic break. He was driving himself to the hospital after. making contact with officers in an adjoining town and then he was two stops
Starting point is 00:55:04 away from going to the hospital and decided that, oh, better pop into a school. Better pop into a school. And Furpas was saved the parents didn't get noticed because of that. So what the schools... Wait, well, I would have thought that the parents would have been...
Starting point is 00:55:18 No, because it was responsible of the school. They decided not to. Then if FERPA didn't exist for that specific reasons, like, hey, it's a crime. This does not exist. exist, then the police would have reached out, hey, here, this is what happened, and none of that happened. Hey, feel it.
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Starting point is 00:57:21 Connor loves perfect jeans. He does. They fit him really nice. Oh, pants. So what has? happened was is the attempted abduction occurs. The Buffalo police and the district
Starting point is 00:57:35 attorney's office go, hey school, give me the names of the people that were involved to include the children, specifically the children because these are crimes that are against children. And the school said, no, we refuse to give you the names of any victims from the school
Starting point is 00:57:52 that are juveniles, which is the whole point where we're there to protect the kids, because of FERPA. So the school was intentionally using FERPA where I'm not, I'm a stranger, I can't request your report cards or if you're tardy to class to say during a criminal investigation, I can refuse to give you the names of the victim children in this crime, which is a horrible representation of what FERPA is.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Because that, well, it makes you wonder who's the legal entity responsible for deciding what, like, though, that was their interpretation, which was wrong. So there's no oversight on that? They could just decide that. Well, that's why the district attorney's office said, you are intentionally misusing FERPA and obstructing this case, which is where this whole obstruction thing happens. There's, so in the notebook, they actually said, or in the printout was, hey, this is where there was a failure. But the teachers claim this, so we can't really do anything. It's like they said, they tried their best.
Starting point is 00:58:54 No one reported it. No, at fault. We can just potentially build a. roadmap for them so it doesn't happen again. Okay, everyone's good. Everyone's good. Oh, you see, the legal team thought that by utilizing FERPA and not giving them their names to the victims of an intended abduction, well, they thought that that was their legal right. So it's not really abstract. No, you're lawyering it. Forgive me if this is like an off the wall comparison, but it kind of reminds me of the people that don't understand the difference between criminal and
Starting point is 00:59:21 civil when it comes to qualified immunity. I'm trying. You would have to paint me a better picture of that. Yeah, sorry, because a lot of people think that like, so I'm not following. Yeah, a lot of people, they just say, oh, we need to end qualified immunity because cops shouldn't be able to get away with doing whatever they want. It's like, well, yeah, understandably, but they don't realize that you could still be tried for criminal actions. Correct. Yeah, qualified
Starting point is 00:59:44 immunity means that, for people who don't know, qualified immunity for police officers means that if I arrest Nick and it's a legal arrest, right, there is a, even if it's like sloppy or bad or whatever, but by the law it is legal. He can't sue me civilly. He
Starting point is 01:00:00 try to sue me criminally or he can try to get like a criminal investigation going on and that's cool. And the reason why that happens, you'd be like, well, why can't he sue you civilly? The reason he can't sue me civilly is basically every person that got arrested could then sue a cop civilly and then you would have no police officers because we'd be out of house and home. And there's like just in legal fees. Even if you did everything right, you still have to pay a lawyer to defend you even though you'd win. Every time that I would make an arrest, a bad guy would go, sweet, I'm going to sue him for $50,000. And I would still have to hawk up the legal fees to get an attorney to defend me. And then slowly whittling away how much money I would be able to make or support a family.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And then eventually, if you make 10 arrests a year, imagine if you made 10 arrests a year. And then each guy decided to take you to civil court for each arrest. There's your salary. There's, dude, you're toast. How are you paying 10 different attorneys or 10, one single attorney 10 times over for all that? time just because you're making a legal arrest. And it also doesn't like it with civil court, you don't actually need to be guilty of anything or have done anything wrong for somebody to take you to court that you then have to defend.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Correct. So like people are like, well, yeah, no, if they're doing something wrong, then yeah, we should be doing that. It's like, well, no, like anybody can sue anybody for anything. Yeah. Even then, I believe that if you're found criminally at fault for something, that qualified immunity doesn't. Correct.
Starting point is 01:01:24 That's the entire part. That's the entire part. If you're a cop and you pull somebody over. you're just like, I'm deciding to balk you on the head. Like that, yeah, you're black, bam. Yeah, you will go to, I mean, at least, I would like to say all the time, but like, I don't know if there's probably some exceptions. But for the most part, you're like, yeah, you're going to be held criminally liable.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Yes. And then once you're held criminally liable, then you can sue them civilly. That's fine. Qualified immunity just means if I'm doing my job in the legal manner of which it's supposed to be, then you can't just sue me civilly, which would be like a way of intimidation. Yeah, but maybe maybe that wasn't the best. comparison, but it's what their interpretation of is FERPA. Their interpretation is kind of like, oh, well, we can't give any information at any time or whatever. It's like, well, no, like there's a
Starting point is 01:02:08 difference between, you know, your report card and your attendance and something that's actually criminal. Those are like two different categories. Two different categories, but what they're doing is they're intentionally misinterpreting it to delay an investigation, to obstruct it, which is why the district attorney called them out. And that's the thing. Like, it's adding such a burden on the system because now it's not like now the cops can't just go there and get the information to do the crime investigation and take somebody to court for that now if they want to get anything done every time they have to go to court against the school district to establish what FERPA is or FERPA doesn't apply in this individual case when that court case then they can go back to the investigation which is a year
Starting point is 01:02:48 later and then get the information and then you're trying to do an investigation a year after the fact and here's the deal right the Buffalo Police Department is We're paid. We are created by and adhere it to the city of Buffalo. Where are my gloves? Come on, heat. Winter is hard, but your groceries don't have to be. This winter, stay warm.
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Starting point is 01:03:43 why is it that I need a subpoena from Buffalo entity one to Buffalo entity two to get the surveillance footage when a crime is committed on Buffalo public property? Yeah, it's not like you're talking to like two different companies talking to each other. It's like, no, I work in marketing. I'm just trying to get an answer from accounting. Yeah. Like we're the same. I'm not talking to a private school.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I'm talking to a city of Buffalo Buffalo Public School. Why is this so difficult? Why is this so difficult? And the biggest thing, which is just the glowing red nose on Rudolph here, is the fact that the district attorney's office called out the legal representatives for the Buffalo Public Schools on obstruction, on intentionally misinterpreting law to prevent victims in. information from being shared with the district attorney's office who represents victims of crimes. And the investigative body talks about it and says how bad that is confirming that it happened. And then goes, well, I don't even care that they go, well, I was a misinterpretation and maybe we can work through it. When the professionals that are qualified to identify obstruction of the law use the word obstruction of the law, I don't know that they mean obstruction of the law.
Starting point is 01:05:00 How more clear could it be that this is like us like it's a fucking cover up and nothing's done? Maybe not the legal investigators covering it for them, but I mean the schools and their legal team trying to cover up the mistakes that they've been making. So what are next steps? We need to get people fired. That's the thing is like we can't do names out. I don't give a shit. We can't do anything. Like that's the shitty part.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Well, it's like we can get, well, I can we can get the DA removed and stuff like. that. But I mean, as far as like, it's one of those things where it's like, I can't do anything for you if you're not willing to do anything for yourself. Yeah. I can, I can throw the rope down to you, but if you're not willing to grab the rope and pull yourself up, I can't save you. So I mean, at this point, it's on the parents to actually go out and defend your fucking kids. And if they don't want to do it, I can only do so much for you. Everyone, it's not even the parents. It is. It's same. City of Buffalo taxpayers, period. Your tax money is going to a corrupt legal representative, a corrupt representation, legal representative for the, I don't know, it's going to
Starting point is 01:06:05 some really shitty lawyers that are protecting the schools to include the school board. The two issues are bad lawyers that your tax money is going to to protect bad Buffalo public school school board members and both of those people are preventing your children from being protected and secure in Buffalo public schools. Wasn't there something shady about the lawyer or two? I don't remember. I feel like I read that in the binder. There was,
Starting point is 01:06:33 there's, there's, there's connections where a lot of the, uh, how did it work? I think it was, it was something along the lines of like, a significant amount of the lawyers that had worked at Buffalo
Starting point is 01:06:46 public schools as employees would then get jobs and go work at this law firm that is then contracted out. I'd have to double check in the binder. But like they're, they're like heavily connected in the school system essentially. And it is. It's just if you're a parent, future parent, you actually have to step up and cause a ruckus. Like, hey, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:07:08 If you read that paperwork, that's the biggest thing. Read that doc they released. Oh, yeah. And now go into it with Richard has everything. The shows, hey, this is actually what happened. It's not a he said, she shed. And they try to use that. It's like, oh, well, we couldn't confirm on the other side.
Starting point is 01:07:25 So there's no fault because that's a lot of that article. is, well, we tried. Well, and the thing that is frustrating about that we tried, which I talked about earlier, is I understand the Buffalo Police Department's side of things where, hey, there's a juvenile involved in this. We can't share the juveniles information. And I would hope that they could still share the narrative of the reports, right? So the narrative of report are at such and such a time, at such and such a place.
Starting point is 01:07:57 subject A, talk to subject B, and did X, Y, Z, right? I would hope that they could redact those, the victim, the juvenile information, but still keep the narrative of what occurred and the location, which would show you the location of the school, right, the school's address. That is what I would hope the Buffalo Police Department would do. it is frustrating that the district attorney's office has not overturned to my knowledge other than I think that one email regarding the attempted abduction. It is not overturned any of their investigative findings regarding some of the specific incidents to which I know, because talking with some of the media where they asked me, does this involve such and such? I would say yes, because I know what it is.
Starting point is 01:08:53 They were like, cool, that's call number 25 dash insert numbers, right? And I'll go, okay, cool. And they would say, all right, well, these are the people that are involved. This is what happens. This is the incident that you're talking about. And say, yeah, that's the incident. They're like, well, we've got the call number. And then the district attorney's office will be like, now we can't give you any
Starting point is 01:09:12 the information that we found during our investigation for that. This is a thing where, again, I don't know if you can talk about. We can delete this part. But it is to a fact where it's, there was. absolutely lies on that documentation when you're like, what, no, this exists. This evidence exists. I know of incidents and I have, I know of them. And there are people in the media that have reached out to me and they have confirmed them with me, right? Through their investigation, through their FOIA requests, they said, are these some of the issues or the incidents that were some of the
Starting point is 01:09:50 issues are coming from. And I say yes. So if you can get the call numbers and the incident reports for incidents occurring at school addresses, which are foiable, totally foyerable. This is not new information. You'll be able to discern if there is a lack of reporting. So I'll give you an example of what you can request. Let's say that you wanted to find out if reports were not being done appropriately, right? How do you look for something that isn't there? I think is maybe kind of like the question you might be asking.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Yeah. You'd have to compare it to two things. What you'd have to do is you'd have to request for 911 dispatch calls, right, to a school and or you could request for a year's worth of 911 dispatch calls that would say school, school other, school whatever. School other is the biggest issue because that's the one where they hide the bullshit, right? It doesn't say school assault, doesn't say school whatever. It says school other, which is where you can hide it because it doesn't, what does other mean?
Starting point is 01:11:16 It can mean it whatever you want. And it also doesn't say assault and flash up with a red flag saying something bad happened, right? That's where they hide stuff. So you could request the 911 dispatch calls or CAD computer-rated dispatch, which is the what would pop up on our computer when we go to a call. You could request all of those school other calls. And then taking all of those CD numbers, which is case numbers, let's say, let's make it a lot.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Let's say it's like 500 calls in a year to the schools. I don't think it's that many, but no, it probably would be. It was something like that, yeah. Yeah, because it's like 7,000. Anyway, so let's say you get 5,000. Yeah. Let's say you get 500 calls for one year or six months. Just make it a couple months, right, to narrow down your investigation before I even went
Starting point is 01:12:06 on my thing, which I have more information to tell you about after our thing and how things continued. So you would request from a time period, I want all the calls, the dispatched calls. Yeah, but what do you mean by all? Yeah, right? What do you mean by all? So you would FOIA the dispatch calls that came out as school other. FOIA request all those calls dispatched out on CAD or radio runs, however you want to describe it. And then you could request all of the reports for those calls.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Now, if a computer-aided dispatch call, right, comes out, then it says, hey, call 30, this call started at 10 in the morning. and car 411 goes to that call, right? The description of the call is school other. Additional information in that dispatch call is S. S.A. Assault, student on student, which you'll find. If you requested the 1375 or the police report for that call, you would be surprised at how from
Starting point is 01:13:14 assault student on student, there is no police report for it. Now, let me ask you this hypothetical question. So if they're hit with this, this will be like, hey, and then these are the ones that have actual reports or nothing. Hey, what is the reason for no police report? That's a good question. Brandon, that is the golden question. That's the golden goose right there.
Starting point is 01:13:39 So what you'll find is potentially, if you have a call and you'll see them, I assume, maybe, if you get a call where it says offense occurred between two students. Or let's even just say an assault happened between a student and a teacher. And you don't have a police report for that. Do you think that a detective in the special victims unit is going to know that that assault occurred? Or do you think that a district detective is going to know that that assault occurred between the student and the teacher? If no police report is made? Chessler, no. I'm going to say no, which is one of the issues.
Starting point is 01:14:18 I mean, and that's not something that it's not breaking news. That's something that you can FOIA. That's something that's been a part of these investigations since the moment that I came out and talked about them. It's just wild that that can even happen where it's like, man, push it aside. So we've been under the rug. We won't report that one. So what would you, before we wrap this up, what would be your next steps for the individuals watching? Because we discussed this is happening way more than just Buffalo.
Starting point is 01:14:50 we've all seen that. It was the sheer amount of DMs about like, hey, this is going on my school district. Fucking mind blowing. Cool. Because people, real quick, if I could just, that, you see it a lot. People always pay attention like the big, sexy, you know, federal elections and things like that. But they don't pay attention things like school board and like local things. Which affects you the most, honestly. It does. Yeah. And your local elections affect you more than anything in federal government level. Not only does it affect you more, most likely, but also it is where you have the biggest voice instead of being one out of 30 million, now all of a sudden you're one out of 300.
Starting point is 01:15:25 And you can talk to a bunch of other people in the community and get them involved. And like really you can you can make big moves. But people don't because people, it's very easy to get complacent and get lazy. Who can name people that are on their school board? I can't wait to be a member of my school board. It's not like they're in charge of the minds of your kids or anything. Yeah. It's not like you give these people six hours a day, five days a week, time with your kids.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Riding's in charge of his own mind. torture you shall listen to me. I'm like, okay, bud, stop it. It's wild because I don't think it's knowing your kids' teachers and then above that and then all, everything that they can change represent hide
Starting point is 01:16:11 take care of is extremely important. That's crazy part. Like I talked to multiple teachers that are fucking awesome and know this is a problem and have been some of them have been talking about it for years and have been taken to court multiple times and tried
Starting point is 01:16:26 they've tried to fire them multiple times because they push back and fight against the corrupt school board and just nobody listens to them. No, and I think the same thing. So like there are really good teachers in Buffalo School District.
Starting point is 01:16:38 It's just some of the people that are elected in charge are pieces of shit. Are they the ones that flip people off in Zoom calls and then lie about it? Nope, not those ones. Oh, okay. They're the ones that are the same sorority?
Starting point is 01:16:51 No, I'm saying the good ones. Oh, the good ones. Like the good teachers that like have been trying to tell people that this is going on, but just nobody listens. Like I've talked to- One guy was the whistleblower almost. Yeah. Like, hey, yeah, this is a known issue. They tried to fire him three times.
Starting point is 01:17:07 I, in my binder, I have the court documents where I think it was over a stabbing at the high school. Yeah. And he tried to get them in trouble for it because he had went and told them like, hey, this door doesn't work and it doesn't lock. and it like directly led to a stabbing at that school. Yep. And like created an issue. And they retaliated against him. They put him and he was the head of his department.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I think it was like social studies or history department. They put him on leave for over a year, I believe. Oh my God. And then all the other teachers in his department on leave and tried to fire the entire department. I think the other teachers in the department weren't on leave as long as he was, but he was on leave for like a year plus while they were in court fighting it out. And the court system, I have the court documents where it was signed off on like, this dude literally did nothing wrong.
Starting point is 01:18:02 You can't fucking fire him. What are you talking about? Funny how groups like that always, you know, they're very quick to protect their own and, you know, circle the wagons and oh, no, those are our guys. You can't fire him no matter what they did unless you go against the grain. Unless you call them out for their bullshit. In that case, they'll leave you out to die. Well, that's where I think that's slush for,
Starting point is 01:18:21 I'd almost say have a portion of that slush fund goes towards that. It's like, hey, if you have a school district that does fuck you, because it is terrifying. It's like, what am I going to do? That school board's going to attack me. Oh, I can maybe rally a couple of parents behind me, but at the end of it, if I lose his job, I can't do anything. Now, if you have a backing and then you all understand, if you bring up kids, safety, anything like that, a lot more people will rally behind you than you think. And if we can help with that, then that's our job.
Starting point is 01:18:53 It'd be funny if we do, like, because, you know, we do the autism charity month. We do veteran charity month for unsub. We just add a third month into the rotation. That's just the war chest month. Literally, we just keep a war chest. So we can sue dummies. Dude, literally, it's like, hey, you're doing this? The pact to specifically spend against people who are fucking assholes, like the DA.
Starting point is 01:19:14 That's a year one that just stays around and that can we just add into it throughout the year. Deak softly and carry a $300,000 threat. Yeah. Then they will be very, oh shit, I'm putting my job at risk for this. Oh, shit. Look, how many people with social media, here's hundreds of thousands that will look at it, and then here is the funds to defend that, to make an actual change. I like that idea a lot.
Starting point is 01:19:39 I think one of the changes that need to be made now, and I think it's an easy change to be made, is if I'm not mistaken at this moment, the Buffalo Public Schools have all of their social media comments turned off. Weird. Which, if you are a public body, I believe, and I know that if you're a representative of people, like the president can't turn off comments or block people. If it's an official account,
Starting point is 01:20:02 I think there was a Supreme Court case about it five to ten years ago that says that that's illegal. Official social media accounts, specifically I know the Facebook one for the Buffalo Public Schools, they have all comments turned off, which you cannot do, if I understand that legally. I don't know about entities. I know for people.
Starting point is 01:20:19 It's a violation. But how do you talk back and forth with people from your community that you represent if you turn off the comments? Oh, don't get me wrong. I think it's egregious either way. But legally speaking, I don't know if it extends that far. But that's just because I don't know. I think that it's one of those things that it's a small witness test. I mean, our fucking lawyer just back.
Starting point is 01:20:37 We just ask him. Good news. We're building a pact where we can sue bad politicians and just target shitty people. Also, Jake, come here. That sounds great. Can we do that? On camera real quick? Got the you and I just got back from the polls.
Starting point is 01:20:51 There you go. They vote. How about it? I vetoed. Nice. Tony, I hear he's a great guy. Never been involved in scandals.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Perfect voting record. Just real, real. You should have cigarettes to say I vetoed Tony Gonzalez. I voted. I vetoed. I fired him. Well, the people of Texas, I fired him more accurately. I assume anyway.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I could get shellac tonight. If you're not going to sell this shirt, I will. Or maybe this can be the first war. We're chest packed shirt. Orchess Packed shirt. I fired Tony Gonzalez. That would be great. I'm...
Starting point is 01:21:26 Everybody that voted for Brandon gets to rock that shirt. I think we need to start a pack and like that's... We need to look into this. I fired Tony Gonzalez. I fired Representative Tony Gonzalez. No, I'm actually excited at the idea of... The gang gets into politics. Well, because not only is it like, are we going to bring the
Starting point is 01:21:45 eye of Sauron with our autistic army behind us? but also now there's actual financial ramifications because it's like, you know, they can, you know, turn off their comments for a week or two and watch it die down. But now it's like, oh, no, fuck. I just, I'm in a district or an area or whatever local community where my entire race was $100,000 and these people are looming over me with not only millions of viewers, but also that kind of money. I mean, like, that's a real threat to make people.
Starting point is 01:22:14 And again, we're not doing it to like sway people to do the wrong thing. We're just holding people accountable, making them do their job. That's it. I think the first step for the Buffalo Public Schools to push them in the right direction is to have the family step up and have them turn their comments back on on all social media. What a small win to show that we're taking this seriously. How can you hear us complain if you turn off the comments? Now do a public school board.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Sorry, the question I was going to ask you, we were talking about the Supreme Court case that they decided a few years ago where public officials cannot block. their constituents or turn off comments and things like that. Does that extend to public entities like the Buffalo public school system? I don't know honestly. That was my answer as well. Yeah. It's not- federally if you can't if you could yell the DOD or DOW and they can't block you. Yeah. I would assume that that could still be for smaller entities at the state and local level obviously they limited to the state and local level
Starting point is 01:23:10 the people that they represent or that pay the taxes to keep that place going. It would make sense but I I don't know the answer. It depends on how it was litigated. I knew it took it. The gang goes to the Supreme Court. No. It's legal because it's not specific, essentially. If comments are turned off for everyone, it's legal, but they can't go and block specific individuals.
Starting point is 01:23:38 That makes sense. So as long as they're treating everyone like shit equally, it's okay. Which seems like that's what they're doing, which is why I'm saying people of the city of Buffalo rise up and have them turn their comments. comments back on. How did they do the public board, but then closed it? Honestly, if I was a parent in Buffalo Public Schools, here's what I would do, because the only thing these people care about is money. And public schools are paid by having your kid in the school. That's why they get super upset if you don't have an excused absence and do all their paperwork. And they want doctor's notes because if your kid misses so many days, they don't get funding from
Starting point is 01:24:16 the government. So if I was a parent at Buffalo Public Schools, what I was a parent at Buffalo Public Schools, What I would do is I would get a bunch of other parents and I would organize school walkouts, which schools in America are really into right now, as long as it's for the correct political thing. They'll be super pissed about this one because it's about protecting kids and being held accountable to do their own job. They'll be mad. But I would organize school walkouts so your kids just don't go to school every Monday all fucking year long until they fix their shit. And then they're not getting paid. That's what I would do. Dude, a weak walkout would fucking crucify.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Well, no, here's the thing, too. Wednesday walkouts? No, if you did a week. Monday, Tuesday. Wednesday calls are happening real fucking quick. It doesn't even need to be everybody. Even if you got 20% of the school body to just like, no, I'm taking, my kids not coming in today. I will say.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Is he sick? They couldn't fight back against it without talking about the reason. Yep. That's, that's the big one. Because they can't try to motherfucker the parents of these kids like, oh, well, this, this, this. If it's A, a lot of them and B,
Starting point is 01:25:23 they would have to say the reason that they're protesting. What are they going to do? Call the cops and not talk to us at all about anything. It would be school. We get more school others. It would have to call a truancy officer. It would be super weird if half of the Buffalo school kids didn't go to school. And the school got mad and called the cops because the parents weren't having
Starting point is 01:25:43 excused absences for school, which is illegal. So they called Buffalo Police Department and the Buffalo Police Department said, no, no, no, you can't tell me who the kids are that aren't showing up because that would be a violation of FERPA. So you can't share that information with me. Sorry, you can't help you, click. See how that logic goes?
Starting point is 01:26:01 I mean, I'm correct, isn't it? They can't share that information with you. That's FERPA. I mean, that's their stance. That's their interpretation of it. That's their stance. I didn't say that. That's just using their legal jargon against them.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Or, I mean, with them, because that's what they want. they want that they want that i like that a lot oh huh i mean that's what i would do if it was my kids i mean any other last pieces of advice mr richard from what you're dealing with yeah this isn't that's a really good that is what nick has gold you can replay that back a couple times man the next time the next time you get hurt they're fucked i'm planning on getting hurt right around november 2028. I got a date with somebody. Yeah, I'll have a re-election. The other thing is I've unfortunately planned on the investigation not holding people accountable. So I have more information that I'll be sharing at a later date that I have to make sure is collected
Starting point is 01:27:07 appropriately within my bounds as a citizen, and then I will be sharing that. Man, I bet you hate it when your enemies are smart. Yeah, get ready for round two. Five. Well, listen, whatever round it is, get ready, because it's going to upset you almost as much, if not more, because I told you about it already it's going to upset you a whole lot.
Starting point is 01:27:42 I'm going to have to learn about this later. I can tell you it in two minutes the second the cameras turn off. And literally that fast and you'll be like, oh, fuck, yeah. Well, I mean, if it's the truth, it needs to come out. Oh, it will. You'll be able to FOIA.
Starting point is 01:27:57 100%. It's going to be something you'll be able to FOIA and get as soon as the request goes through, it should not be an issue. It's something as apparent when you hear this episode and like do something, make a change. There's worse. If you don't do something and then you hear that, you're like,
Starting point is 01:28:12 fuck, I should have done it then. Yeah. Why did I wait? Get involved now and allow this to snowball in a good way. Yep. Brandon, Cody. Cody, Brandon. We're just blending together at this point.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Understand. Congressman Donut. Yeah. Herrera operator. Close us out. Brandi Heronut. Broanut. Thank you, guys.
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