Unsubscribe Podcast - Roof Korean Tony Moon Tells The REAL Story Of The LA Rodney King Riots | Unsubscribe Podcast 261

Episode Date: April 27, 2026

Join our April autism fundraiser! https://www.bunkerbranding.com/pages/unsubscribe-podcast This week we are joined by Tony Moon! Tony was one of the ‘roof Koreans’ during the LA Rodney King riot...s in 1992. He is releasing a book about the experience soon. Pre-order the ballistic edition: https://wargate.store/products/rooftop-korean-memoir-of-the-1992-l-a-riots Watch this episode ad-free and uncensored on Pepperbox! https://www.pepperbox.tv/ WATCH THE AFTERSHOW & BTS ON PATREON! https://www.patreon.com/UnsubscribePodcast 👕 Merch & Shoes https://bunkerbranding.com/pages/unsubscribe-podcast 🔋 Energy Drinks https://drinkechelon.com P.O BOX: Unsubscribe Podcast 17503 La Cantera Pkwy Ste 104 Box 624 San Antonio TX 78257 ------------------------------ THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS! ZBIOTICS Go to https://zbiotics.com/UNSUB and use code UNSUB at checkout for 15% off your first order of ZBiotics Pre-Alcohol Probiotic Drink. FUM Head to https://www.tryfum.com/UNSUB to get your free gift with purchase, and start The Good Habit today! THE PERFECT JEAN Get 15% off The Perfect Jean with code UNSUB15 at https://theperfectjean.nyc/unsub15 #theperfectjeanpod QUO Try QUO for free and get 20% off your first 6 months at https://www.quo.com/UNSUB RIDGE WALLET Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% Off @Ridge with code UNSUB at https://www.Ridge.com/UNSUB #Ridgepod ------------------------------ FOLLOW OUR SOCIALS! Unsubscribe Podcast https://www.instagram.com/unsubscribepodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@unsubscribepodcast https://x.com/unsubscribecast Eli Doubletap https://www.instagram.com/eli_doubletap/ https://x.com/Eli_Doubletap https://www.youtube.com/c/EliDoubletap Brandon Herrera https://www.youtube.com/@BrandonHerrera https://x.com/TheAKGuy https://www.instagram.com/realbrandonherrera Donut Operator https://www.youtube.com/@DonutOperator https://x.com/DonutOperator https://www.instagram.com/donutoperator The Fat Electrician https://www.youtube.com/@the_fat_electrician https://thefatelectrician.com/ https://www.instagram.com/the_fat_electrician https://www.tiktok.com/@the_fat_electrician ------------------------------ unsubscribe pod podcast episode ep unsub funny comedy military army comedian texas podcasts #podcast #comedy #funnypodcast Chapters: 0:00 Welcome To Unsub! 0:47 Autism Month 1:30 Tony Moon Is Here! 6:30 How Tony Met The Gang 7:25 The Roof Korean Story 25:46 The Daewoo Rifle 28:19 Tony’s Book 30:53 Tony’s Experience On J6 40:13 9/11 & GWOT 49:50 California 55:22 Protecting The 1st & 2nd Amendments 58:47 The Resurgence Of Communism 1:09:17 Tony’s Grandfather Escaped North Korea 1:17:30 The Current Landscape Of Korea 1:21:51 America Just Be Building Stuff 1:27:00 Tony Joins The Offenders 1:32:17 Martial Arts 1:39:20 LA Riots Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 God, can I make that my ringtone? Don't, don't defend your own family and your neighborhood, who's going to do it? The cops? I mean, no offense, but the cops, the cops aren't going to do it. You're not going to tell me that's the better option of the two. I'm sorry, go f*** yourself. Nick Engie. Well, we still call them your .
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Starting point is 00:02:14 by the mic. Three, two, one. It's okay. I've never seen this show either. That's for you, White Claw. Okay. Mmm, delicious. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the unscribed podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tap, fat electrician, our resident Roof Korean Tony Moon, Brandon Herrera, myself, Donan Operator. Thank you so much for being here. What's up, my man? Where's the water bottle? Oh.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I saw it at the range. It's in this trunk. It's weaponized. I got a closer look at it. Is it beautiful? Is it the water bottle? No. No, it's not the one for the clip.
Starting point is 00:02:50 LADD confiscated that one. Oh, damn it. That's one of my favorite videos ever. I was just telling him that at lunch. I watched the video at first. I'm like, oh, damn, that guy got fucked up. And then I watched it again. Like, is that Tony?
Starting point is 00:03:03 I need it. He's got like a full on like rope flail handle. Like it's things a weapon. It's just a handle. It's just a handle. Yeah, it's just a handle. It's just an eight inch handle. I hydrate myself with that.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Add a lot of acceleration. What is this video about? I'm at a loss now. Well, we have to, we have to play. We have to show on the screen. We will bring it up. Tommy. Tell me.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Tell people. people who you are. They're like, who's the random Asian dude right? Well, he's looking for it. So what happened was it was at a protest. It was in L.A. It was a place called We Spa, which it's a Korean-owned spa. And they were actually, they were letting men into the women's section. And there was a video of a woman who was livid that her two daughters were in, you know, there and there was a full-grown man that was there, this naked walking around. So from that video, there was a protest that was planned. But then the opposition got worried of the protest.
Starting point is 00:04:01 So they bust in like two busloads, like 150 guys, 150 Antifa, black block Antifa to this event. So there was like four corners of the block with 30 on each block. And I was there and I was basically just going to go there just to kind of scope things out. And then I saw a woman wearing a shirt. It was a fluorescent yellow shirt that says Jesus saves. And she was talking to the police with a couple of the guys. So it's one of the few moments where I,
Starting point is 00:04:28 felt God speaking to my heart. So I pulled over because I was going to take out. There was like a whole bunch of guys. I'm not, didn't want to get in the mix, but pulled over. And then I started having conversation with them. And surprisingly, they were evangelizing or, you know, to these guys, the Antifa guys, you know, and you can't do that to the mob because they don't listen. So they were going to go back because they were assaulted the first time.
Starting point is 00:04:50 So they were going back the second time. And then I was following them back the second time when I got interrupted. And that's where the video stuff happens. And this is where this happens. Oh, that's my favorite part I'm ponytail, get the fuck on You got the audible bong I heard that from here
Starting point is 00:05:09 All right Can I see that again because it's been too long A piece of shit Two piece Dude just ran away God can I make that my ringtone Donk It's like where they do the
Starting point is 00:05:29 Don't don't don't They turned out into a meme. You know that all our times have come? You know that one song? Yeah. Don't Fear the Reaper? Yeah. The beginning.
Starting point is 00:05:38 The cowbell? That's what they did. That's fucking good. So what happened? Any trouble? After you donged the dude? Did he win away? Well, actually,
Starting point is 00:05:49 let's not say donned the dude. That's a little. It asserts dominance. Alexander the Great Shirley thought so. Hear me out. Branded water bottles that say, hydrate and die. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 There you go. Yeah. That's a new, new business. Hydrate and TBI. Oh, God. Yeah. Self-defense hydrophlask. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Did the police show up or did everything? Yeah, actually, they walked me away. And then, yeah, but they were cool. They were just like, yep, you're allowed to do that. Well, they were actually 15 feet away. So they were watching everything that's going on. And I've had enough experience with law enforcement. So I know kind of where I can, what I can do and what I can't do.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Be a dick to him. Yeah. Really? No, I like cops. I mean, I think they do a lot. Oh, it's a brand. You know, Cody loves. We all support everyone.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Man, ACAB, you know what I'm saying, guys? Oh, ACAB, yeah. Okay. Now, you... Do you know about Cody's background? I do. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Okay. I know literally saying. That's what I was wondering on whose content you've kind of watched because you were thrown into the unsubmix from other. from your handler and your team for the book you're releasing and then we're just figuring it out all today. Yeah. Man, I thought all you guys just said slurs on Twitter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Oh, you guys have, I don't know you have YouTube channels? You guys have careers? I'm here for a podcast? I think it was like maybe a year ago or so, something like that. We were in some sort of engagement in Twitter on Twitter. and I, you know, set through something out there, or like, maybe it was either you or me, I don't remember. But then you replied and, like, talking about like,
Starting point is 00:07:37 oh, we'd love to have you down in San Antonio, something like that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm like, oh, shit. Roof Koreans on the table? I never would have figured that, but all right. Yeah, yeah. I was, so it was weird because, like, the publisher is telling me, like, okay, you can't really talk about the book too much, not yet.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And I was like, okay, I'm not going to do any podcasts. And then come January, they're like, you got to get out there and start talking about the book. I was like, okay. So it's like, stop. But Korea. You know, it's like, do both. Yeah, do both.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I was like, okay. So, yeah, I was looking forward to the pod. And then we were out in the staccata together. Yeah, for the year. That was really cool. Had a good time. Had a good time. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I had a really good time. My kids had a good time. That was awesome. You brought your, your kids. Yeah. I didn't know what range day meant. So I brought the shotgun that I took out that week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:17 You know, when someone says range day, I mean, I'm bringing my guns. I'm, I'm, shoot. I didn't know it was all provided for us. So I was some pretty cool toys out there. There were some really, the 50 Cal? That was cool. Did you shoot the AK-50? Or which one?
Starting point is 00:08:32 I shot the 50-Cal. Mod-duce. Oh, yeah. Full auto. Yeah. And then my son did too, so he had a good time. We'll have to get you on the AK-50 next year. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah. It'll be a good time. So what, do you want to explain to the audience, what kind of got you known around the 2A community and, I mean, America in general? What does it? Why does everyone know what a Ruth Korean is? Yeah. Who is the moon Korean? So I didn't know what a roof Korean was up until 2021.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I'll be honest. Really? Yeah, I didn't know what that was. I mean, so up until 2021, I mean, I was just a regular Joe. I didn't know when my family didn't know about my background in terms of what I did in the riots. And that was just kind of part of the past. And I think it would help me kind of be more, you know, talk about this was COVID. In L.A., we had COVID restrictions that were way beyond what, I came to Texas in 2021, to Austin.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And then there's a huge difference between the restrictions that we had in California. than you guys had in Texas. So that's kind of what helped trigger me in the sense. You know, I want to live a normal life and just quietly. But that and the elections, I think the 2020 election results really, you know, pushed me over. I'm a math guy. I do mortgages for, and that's kind of like what I do, right?
Starting point is 00:09:46 And then I've done other things, too, but I read numbers and the numbers. Expert and property value. Yeah, numbers just didn't work. You do numbers? What? Yeah. I know. I'm kind of the weird Asian that does numbers.
Starting point is 00:09:58 A rarity. A diamond. Common loot. Yeah, so I created an account, and I started tweeting about businesses that were being shut down during COVID, the restrictions. And then there was a focal point. There was a business called Tinhorn Flats in Burbank that was staying open during the restrictions. So they were actually allowing indoor dining.
Starting point is 00:10:25 And they got a lot of heat from that. they were getting cited every, every evening. And then I put out a video about that. And then Newsmax picked up the video, and they showed it. It was on Stinchfield. Yeah, so he showed that. And then I started talking about the restrictions in COVID as well, what was happening in Orange County.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And then InfoWords picked that up. I threw another video, and they picked that up. So it was all regarding COVID. But then the whole 92RI thing, that was kind of like, that's where I picked up my moniker, my handle because of that, because I was kind of like, you know, what do I call myself? And then I just started doing some research. And I ran into that thing. Like the Roof Korean in 92.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I was like, hey, that's, that kind of applies to me. Oh, shit, that's me. Yeah. Literally. I created the account, yeah. But, so all of this, so backing up just to like to super basics for the people who don't know. It was, so 1992 was the L.A. Rodney King riots.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Where I was actually doing some reading on this a little bit last night in prep. It was Rodney King, who was in a high speed chase with police. for I think drunk driving High on crack Yeah he was he was high He was high on PCP too Oh shit Yeah that's the reason why
Starting point is 00:11:34 When they were beating him He wasn't responding Because he was just numbed out That's why But yeah but the footage Basically somebody read Recorded it The news got a hold of the footage
Starting point is 00:11:42 Where basically they were beating The fucking shit out of this guy Yeah And then it just sent the whole city Into a bunch of essentially race riots Right They The reason the city went crazy over it
Starting point is 00:11:52 Is like they were They were beating his ass It should have been one of those cases where they put them in handcuffs and put them in the back of the car. But they were standing around and, like, actually beating his ass. And then they took the, the four officers got charged with it. They went to trial and they were acquitted of it, everything. And that's what drove the city crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Okay. So it was based on the acquittal of the cops. Yeah. Got it. Okay. That's when everyone went crazy. And they started, like, they started looting the entire city. And they went down to like CREA town, like, where you and all your people are down there.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And they just started tearing shit up, stealing TVs. It was basically like a worse version of the BLM riots, but localized to L.A. L.A. County. L.A. County. I'm going to differentiate between L.A. City and L.A. County. Because L.A. County is much larger than L.A. City. So the previous ice riots that we had in 2025, that's localized to L.A. is mainly where it was.
Starting point is 00:12:44 But it makes it look like on media and video that it's all the whole city. It wasn't. The 92 riots was the whole county. So you had everything from Korea Town, down south, past downtown L.A. to South central over by like Brentwood, Culver City, and then up north by like where I was. I lived in Hollywood. Like, you know where Culver County. Counties in California are enormous.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Oh, like for the viewer, you're not going to know this, but one of those cities to city or districts is a 30 minute to an hour drive, especially in traffic. And that's just going. Yeah, because you used to live in L.A., right? Yep. Glendell. So that's when he's saying like Pasadena, you're going even past, past, past. Macedina, that is massive. It's a huge city. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 It was basically everything, if you look at downtown L.A., everything south of downtown L.A., obviously, because that's where the black community was. They were really upset. And it's not just because of Rodney King, because the year before that, a 14-year-old girl named Latasha Harlins got shot, was shot by a Korean shop owner,
Starting point is 00:13:48 storekeeper. It was an older woman that was shot. And then it went to trial, and then she got probation, and the black community was pissed off. What was the story about that? Sorry was basically, she was stealing orange juice, and then she was asked to put it away, and then she beat the fuck out of this, like, one.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Oh, shit. Yeah, she beat the crap out of this older lady. She's like in her late 60s. And then, and she's 14, but she's a big 14-year-old girl, you know, so she beat the crap out of her. So the lady kind of, I guess, she says in the court transcript, she says she kind of lost her mind because she didn't know what to expect what was coming next because she was turning around, and she felt like she was to come back.
Starting point is 00:14:21 So she pulled out the revolver and pulled the trigger. And they're saying that the revolver was stolen at one point And the trigger was modded So when she got it, it was actually a lot lighter Who gives a fuck? Yeah, exactly, right? So anyway, she got shot And then because of that, the black community was upset because of that
Starting point is 00:14:37 And then the year after you had the Rodney King. So it just all culminated into what happened with Rodney King And that's where everything just kind of blew up on Wednesday. So the verdict came down on Wednesday And then that's where you see the protests on Florence, Normandy, Reginald Denny getting pulled out of his car, he hit with the cinder block, splayed out in blood. That was on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:15:00 So then Thursday, so that's Wednesday. That was the trucker. Yeah, that was your trucker. That was your bad. One thing that I read about that too is Reginald Denny was, he was delivering gravel to a Section 8 housing complex, a lower income housing complex. He was there to actually take help. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And they pulled him out of his truck and yeah, cinder block just right over his head. And the news helicopter got all the... Zbiotics is a surefire way to wake up feeling refreshed after a long night with the friends. Zbiotics, pre-alcohol, probiotic, is the world's first genetically engineered probiotic. Probiotic. Probiotic. I got the word right. You want to know how it works?
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Starting point is 00:17:04 No. Because like now with like BLM and stuff, we know that like, oh, this is another George Floyd type incident or another this person type incident. There's going to be riots in major cities all over. Like we kind of have a warning. Yeah. This is like the first time it ever really happens. It caught everybody off guard.
Starting point is 00:17:19 This was actually organic. Yeah. The BLM riots and everything, all the ice, that's all funded. Yeah. Right. So this was all organic. It was the community. And what happened was, so on Thursday is when it got really bad.
Starting point is 00:17:31 That's when they started. The stores in South Central, a lot of the Carino stores were kind of like peppered, like, islands in that city. There's nothing, there's no central community in there. So a lot of them got looted, were burned. Firefighters that try to go there to stop the fires were being shot at. So they needed a police escort. And they can afford the manpower anywhere. So they just stopped going there and trying to put out the fires.
Starting point is 00:17:52 So that was by Thursday. So by Thursday when all this was picking up steam, is when the call went out from Radio Korea, asking for help. So it was just a general distress call asking for help, anybody to come and help the community. That's wild. So a lot of us went. I never got the call because it was all in Korean. I speak Korean, but I'm not really that fluent.
Starting point is 00:18:12 But I got the call for my friend. And he was like, hey, you see what's going on TV? I was like, yeah. And he was like, can you help? I was like, yeah. Were you born in L.A.? I was born in Germany. Germany.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Oh, shit, okay. You look it. Yeah. Thanks, man. I tell people I'm South African, but you know, whatever. What age were you during this? I was 19. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Yeah. So 19, the phone call, hey, and do it, it's like grab a gun or grab something to protect. Right. This is what we're doing. What was that phone call like? Yeah. So it was just like, hey, you know, it might be coming up north because his brother had a store over by Vermont. and Washington, which is just north of the 10th freeway.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And that's kind of the 10th freeway is kind of dividing line between Korea town and like the south. So his was just north of that. So his concern was that they were going to start coming up north. Like the black community was going to start coming up. Because that was kind of the rumor that they're going to come up north. They're going to go, you know, loot, Bel Air and Beverly Hills. And that was kind of what the talk was. So when he called me, I already knew why he was calling me.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And, you know, I was watching everything that was going down. So I went with them. But in my book, I outlawed. my past, who I was before and what I did and why I'm very familiar with law enforcement and how they operate in LAPD and some of the ties I have with L.A. and the roots I have and some of the ties I have. And for me, it wasn't just simply going out and just protecting my friend, but there was some street politics involved as well with that because I have a lot of friends. It's the Family and Friends event at Shoppers Drugmark. Get 20% off almost all.
Starting point is 00:19:47 regular priced merchandise. Two days only. Tuesday, April 28th and Wednesday, April 29th. Open your PC optimum app to get your coupon. Right now it's giving me similar vibes to like the Kyle Rittenhouse case. It's like a lot of the riots. Thankfully that, you know, didn't end up the same way, but like, because I think he was going with a friend of his, it's been so many years, but he was going with a friend of his to protect that friends because his dad had that car, car dealership or that car lot. And he's like, we need to. We need to. We need, We need some help defending our property because they're going to burn everything to the ground. Yeah, it's similar to that, but I'm just going to clarify the riots.
Starting point is 00:20:28 There was actually three different riots that week. You had the riots that was the black community down in South Central. And then you had sporadic riots throughout L.A. County, like Culver City. People just taking advantage of the chaos and looting because there's no more central command with, you know, emergency services or anything. Everything is just like offline. Sublime. And then in Korea town, you had a whole different riot. You had basically what I call a gang war.
Starting point is 00:20:50 You had a gang war between us and two of the largest gangs. I think one of the largest gangs in LA, which is MS-13. I was on the east side of Koreatown. Korea-town is actually divided into two different groups. You got 18th Street on the west side that owns a lot of that territory. And then you got MS on the east side that owns a lot of that territory. I didn't know about MS-13. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I figured it had been the Bloods of Crips are in that area. No. It's Bloods of Crips are further south. Okay, yeah, so further south. So these guys were, I was patrolling, where we were patrolling, it was mainly MS territory. So when we were out there and we found out who was shooting, we got a description of the vehicle, what they look like, how many occupants, and we already knew who they were. So me and my buddy, because we have a background and we kind of know L.A., we already know the territories where they're at. So we actually went into their territory looking for them because we got the description from, so what happens, I'll just kind of time it out.
Starting point is 00:21:45 So I went to with my friend to his brother shop, right? So he got Hispanic and black employees that are pulling merchandise away from the window and boarding it up, right? Everyone's armed. Everyone's strapped. They got something. So his older brother tells us, hey, go to this other plaza over by New Hampshire and Olympic. Check on those guys. I got some buddies there.
Starting point is 00:22:04 So we go over there. And then as soon as we get there, the older guys are telling us that we're being shot at. And who's shooting at you guys? Four guys, white Toyota Corolla, and they're doing rounds. They're just coming by and taking pot shots at us. So we already know in that area in the 90s, like the guys who drive Toyota Corolla's are MS. 18th Street, some of the established Hispanic gangs are more Buick Cadillacs, Chevys, you know, these guys are driving Toyota Corolla.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So we already know it's them. And because of the area, we kind of know where they're going to be hanging out, where their hood is. So we're kind of driving through there. And we actually catch up to these guys, I think. I think it was these guys. But, yeah, I talk about it in my book. But, you know, there's a moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yeah. That's crazy. Even the isolation of Korean Town. I'm trying to compare that to any other city that has a district that is Korea Town. And it is, this is a large area. How many Koreans live in Korea Town? I don't know. But it's about a three square mile radius, Korea Town.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Great parking. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic parking. Fucking, God, I hate to visiting my friends. I'm like, oh, God. It sucks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:12 But yeah, so it was three different riots. And in the video, you see Mr. Jew, he's saying, oh, yeah, there's Cholos that are shooting at us, right? So it's not Cholos. I talked to some other people that I know, and they don't think it was, they don't think it was 18th Street that was involved with the shooting. They think it was mainly MS because these guys were first-generation immigrants, and they're just going to go wild. And these guys were actually changing the dynamics in terms of, like, gang warfare in the 90s when they did. guys came into came to LA and they formed MS-13. It was one of the most dangerous gangs for a while.
Starting point is 00:23:49 It actually in the United States. They started out as a stoner group. They listened to heavy metal, smoked weed, stoners. And then basically they hung out and they started having beef with some of the local Mexicans because these guys are Salvadoranians and, you know, not all Hispanics get along. So just like not all Asians get along sometimes. So they had beef and they formed MS. And then I think when they joined with the Mexican Mafias, when they had the 13th.
Starting point is 00:24:12 but before it was just MS, straight MS. What was one of the craziest moments, though, during that for yourself, we were like, oh, fuck, this is a lot more than, maybe more than I chew to, like, react. I'm trying to figure out a way to talk about it without ruining the book because I know you want to do both. Well, it's like, I know, you know, I wanted, like, I want to talk about the book and what's in the book, but I can't. But I would say that it was, I've had enough shit in my life where it was,
Starting point is 00:24:42 It was just another week, kind of. I mean, it's crazy as that sounds, but it's just kind of a week in my life during that time. That kind of, I kind of forgot about after so many years that I never brought it up to my family. Never brought up to my kids, my family. So they just found out later one day? Yeah, they just find out. They're like. And then when I created the account, they're like, you know, like, and then I told them.
Starting point is 00:25:01 So you didn't realize that this was like a big deal that people had talked about for decades until like 20, I didn't know. That's so interesting. I had no idea. Well, it's interesting to me because like a lot of World War II veterans. had the same experience where like, a lot of World War II veterans were like in Battle of the Bulge or they were at some major battle, but like all the history and documentation
Starting point is 00:25:21 didn't come out until 30 years after the fact. So there was a lot of dudes that really, oh shit, I was there for that actually. I was in Battle of the Bulge. And they had no idea until. They didn't know how big of a deal it was. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:31 just on like a top down view. They didn't know. Yeah, they had no idea because. I was, I mean that skirmish one day. Yeah. It's just like, oh, shit, I was there for that.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Actually, yeah. This is, I remember that. Like, it's just interesting. like didn't even know you a big part of history until decades later. I had no clue, no idea. I didn't even know it was a whole meme or whatever. And it's only until I created the account in 2020, 2021.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Yeah, is when 2020, November 2020 is when I created the X account is when, you know, I kind of found out about everything. Because that's one of the OG memes, I think, on your channel is you've, you've been promising a Roof Koreans video for what 10 years now? Yeah, I started off in 2016 talking about Roof Koreans. and just kept talking about it and talking about it, and I never made a video on it. So I think I brought roof Koreans back into the mainstream in early YouTube.
Starting point is 00:26:22 When we first started hanging out, I think we were down in Charleston that one time, like years and years ago. People kept pasturing you about the Roof Koreans video. I'm like, what? Like, why do people keep asking you about a Roof Koreans video? And apparently you had promised one but never made it. Yeah. Like to this day.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah, I promised a Roof Koreans video. video for years because back then I was like super hardcore and researching crime and I found the roof Koreans and I kept bringing it up on YouTube and kept bringing it up and I never made a video about it well here you're finally doing it yeah I know here's my roof Korean it would be a shh roof Korean had no idea yeah it'd be a shame at the comment section adopted the win roof Korean video you could probably call that's such a shame yeah old shout out to Popo medic my buddy he he went ahead and he made a video about the roof Koreans he did a video.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Yeah, cool guy. When crime is fun on Roof Koreans. I know, I need to do that now, too. Dang, that is wild. Now, the... Well, for the audience who doesn't know, just to... The reason why we keep talking about it is like a meme, like the Roof Koreans meme, is in the Second Amendment community.
Starting point is 00:27:29 It kind of became... I mean, not to overuse the word, but it became a meme in the sense where it was a perfect representation of going down, the police not being there to protect you, and in individuals grabbing firearms and just protecting their own. Protecting their property or their people. And so it just became like this icon, you know, kind of retro early 90s thing. But it became like that symbol for standing up and defending your community. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah. I was totally unaware of any of that. I mean, I didn't have a social media account up until 2020. Like nothing, no, no Instagram, no Twitter, nothing. So you're just off to the internet. That's why you're, yeah, I was off to internet. I mean, like, I was living in life. going to tournaments with my kids and I was, you know, doing my own business. And I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:15 Twitter was just like, like, just something else, you know, just, you didn't realize how fun it could be to yell at people. Yeah. And talk shit. Yeah. Talk shit all day long. It's the Elon thing. It's like it's like, it's the PVP server of social media. There was, there was one where they had Elon looking like a woman. And they were like, the wrong answers only. So I put, I posted like, yeah, my kid's new stepmom. I'm fine with that one. Now with, you got to shoot the DeWu today, right? You brought out that.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Yes. If you wanted to do a brief history on why that weapon is important to the situation. Sure. So like the DeWu, DeWu produces a bunch of things from, you know, rifles to cars. But the Korean assault rifle, you see it in a lot of anime and shit too. Like, what was it? Solo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I think it was. Yeah. Yeah. I was just like, ah, DeWu's. Like, it kind of outs it as a Korean show. because that's like their, their assault rifle, or their iconic assault rifle anyway.
Starting point is 00:29:13 So there's a lot of those photos. And we were actually talking about this a little bit earlier. You kind of filled me in on some stuff I didn't know, where a lot of the photos of the signature, you know, Roof Koreans, the famous pictures, a lot of them have DeWu K-1s and K2s. And so you were telling me that a lot of that is because a lot of those dudes were first generation.
Starting point is 00:29:33 From their mandatory military service in South Korea, they were just familiar with them. Yeah. that's exactly what it was. Yeah, it was something that they used. So they were obviously familiar with that. But some of the young guys like myself that were out there, we had different firearms.
Starting point is 00:29:47 I took a Remington 870 out there, and then my buddy had a Beretta, 92FS. But yeah, that is the most 90 shit ever. That's awesome. But yeah, the K2, I mean, I wanted to shoot that for a long time too, because I saw it feel stripped and it looked, like I said, remember we talked about it looked like a blend between an AK and an AR.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah, it's like they wanted to take an AR-15 and then give it an AK-style long-stroke gas piston. Yeah. Which is basically what that gun is. Exactly. Words. There's a long stick that gets gas from the barrel, push his bulk carrier back.
Starting point is 00:30:26 There we go. Now I got it. We brought it out and shot your book covers. So is that the first 400? How many books are going out? And what was that for exactly? That's actually for an insert in the book, right? So it was like a page.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah, when the publisher said like, we're going to shoot it, I thought we're going to shoot the actual book, right? But they're like, no, we're going to shoot the page. You just want us to ruin the entire book. Well, this chapter's gone. Right, right. Well, but then they have to, now they have to buy two copies. Yeah, see, it's brilliant marketing.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Stunks. Stunks. So, so, yeah, that was fun. But, yeah, shooting the pages, they're going to insert the page into the book. so oh gotcha that makes okay I wasn't sure on how all of that was working yeah I didn't know either it was a cool idea we just got it and it's like hey
Starting point is 00:31:13 let's go shoot this so we went and fired how many is it the first 100 how does the cell work I'm trying to help you on your marketing dog okay this is your pitch right now we shop pages for you that's going in the the pre-order right the special edition
Starting point is 00:31:29 book right so that's that's for that and then they're going to have the other regular hard back and soft copy like afterwards But this is the ballistic edition. Yeah, this is the ballistic edition. So it's supposed to be, you know, special. So we shot it with the, uh, the day woo K2 and the MP7. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:31:47 That's kind of neat. We did use the nine mill one time. Eli used the nine mil one time. The, the day woo because it's relevant, the MP7 because it's cool. About the logic that went into that. Yeah, pretty much. That's exactly what happened. You actually got to fire the imps of a few.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah, that's cool. You almost did the mistake of too many clicks on the first one. Yeah, I know. That was fun, though. It's a good thing you actually mentioned that. I would have just sprayed the book. The book is extra shot. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:18 It's got extra holes in it. That was a blast. So when does that actually release or when do pre-cells go up? Well, it was scheduled to be released this month on the 34th anniversary, which would have been April the 28th, or 29th, my bad. but they're pushing it to like July, August because there's a few other things that need to get done.
Starting point is 00:32:40 The audio version needs to get done, so I got to record the audio. I was just going to ask you if you were going to record the audio version. They're having me record the audio version, so the audio version is going to get done. That has to get done. There's also a few other things,
Starting point is 00:32:51 steps, like the whole book publishing industry, that's like their own thing. So it's about nine months to a year for them to get a manuscript put it out into the market. I really like it when authors read their own audiobooks. Like, I just dig that.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because, like, the creative director was fixing a lot of the grammar. And I said, and I was like, no, I don't talk like that, though. You know, it's going to sound weird if I say this in the audio because I don't speak like this. I'm going to, I had to rewrite it according to the way, you know, I speak. Now I think your book is going to be like ebonics. Ten more dollars if you do it in an Asian accent. The entire book.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yeah. The publisher said it was better for authenticity. I don't know what that. That's the most racy shit. I was like, you should do this in an Asian accent. I don't have one. Make one up. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:35:25 Use code unsub to get a free gift today. So, uh, during, during COVID, you were seeing a lot of I'm guessing businesses shut down and then seeing the control of it and how it's just fucking shit up and that's what got your voice going. That and the election. And that's what Propel made go to D.C. in January, J6. Yeah, because I didn't know that either until earlier today when we were talking about. There's a lot of things people don't know about me. No shit.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I didn't even know that. But yeah, J6. I was a J6 too. D.C. Yeah. So that was interesting. I had a good time there. I mean, it's nothing like what they described the media, you know, and it was basically families that were out there, kids, grandparents, you know.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And it was because the election was fraudulent, you know, it was a fraudulent election. And it was very blatant. I grew up remembering, you remember the hanging chads during Gore, that election? 2000. Yeah, yeah. So I remember that. But this was just blatant. It was so obvious, you know.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Gotcha. And that's what kind of got me. What I didn't know either. Well, because I asked you as soon as I found that. out because you're showing us like some of the pictures that you're taken there. And then I had asked if the feds fucked with you at all after. They did. Yeah, they did. Just for just for being present. Right. So they, the two feds came to my house. Because you didn't go in the building or anything. No, I didn't go in the building. You were just there on the lawn. Right. We're outside on the steps,
Starting point is 00:36:47 you know, and then when Trump, you know, tweeted at around 4 o'clock, like, hey, go home. Like, it's all done. So we all took off and we left. But we weren't, I went there because I've watched video is in October, November of people getting assaulted by Antifa leftists and stuff. And so I think a lot of us went there thinking that we were going to be brawling on the street, you know, with these guys. But they never showed up. I mean, they weren't there. But the reason why they went there is because they were intermixed in the crowd with us, you know. So I didn't know that until somebody I was with pointing out there was a guy who had like a huge anarchy, you know, tattoo on his hand. And he called him out and he basically scurried and went
Starting point is 00:37:27 into the crowd and that's how we lost them but that's kind of how we figured out that we were it wasn't just us i mean antifa was with us you know at j6 and they were the ones that were usually like antifa BLM guys were probably the ones that were breaking the windows and you know destroying you know shit on property so also while them showing up you never went and you were just there on camera i'm assuming but then them showing up to your door would be weird yeah i mean I kind of expected that because they were showing up on everybody's door, you know, in some form or fashion. Either they were showing up as plainclothes feds or they were swatted out and, you know, basically, you know, closing both ends of the street and bringing in the SWAT guys, the FBI SWAT guys. So, yeah, so two different experiences with Feds.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Now, mine was a lot more pleasant. So I had like two fed, man and a woman, you know, and I spoke with them. But later on, they got involved with my life. again, when I was having issues with my ex-wife. And so they actually called DCFS or CPS. So they were involved in taking away my kids for about a couple months. Oh, whoa. What the heck?
Starting point is 00:38:36 And that was related to the J-6 stuff? Well, not related to J-6, but the feds are monitoring me. Oh, wow. They're very, I'd say they're very insidious in terms of how they gather and tell. And I'm familiar with this, and I kind of know, like, when you're online, you don't want to really leave too much online. I mean, I still write stuff down with paper and pen. You know, it's just by habit.
Starting point is 00:38:56 But they, I got a notification from, it was Dropbox, because I used Dropbox and Facebook, saying that they were actually cooperating with the feds. And this was, I got the notification like in November. And they said that they were cooperating with the feds since like August. So the feds were actually, you know, crawling over all my social media and my accounts and whatnot since August. And I just, you know, found out about it in November. So I already kind of knew that they were going to do that. And I already had a feeling that they were going to crawl all over my Dropbox account, you know, and look at all my folders and files.
Starting point is 00:39:32 But it's all business related. So there's nothing that to incriminate me. It's still, wow, from like when you think about that, how much money. Just combing over mortgage notes. This got really low. Damn it. We're going to find something here. I should have got my mortgage from this guy.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Like, we've been pouring over it for three weeks and all I need to, all I figured out is I need to refinance. Yeah, pretty much. It is crazy how much money was spent on something like that. That's how my brain... That was a shitload. Yeah, just... You never went in how much time, resources, salaries, went to just...
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Starting point is 00:40:38 Bed MGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Cool. That's what it was. Right. Political prosecution. And I try to figure out how they were targeting people, because it just seemed so random. Like there was like two older women twins that were, you know, on the capital. Capitol, but they were actually, I think they were incarcerated for a while, too.
Starting point is 00:40:56 How many people actually went to jail from that? I know there's a list out there. There's a J6 support group. How many were arrested? That basically, that are out there. That's, that has a list. But, yeah, I think it was quite a bit. And they all got pardoned, like everything, just got wiped clean, right? Right. Except for, I think, Joe Biggs. Joe didn't get his pardon. So it led to the arrest of 1600 individuals, 725 of which. were charged with federal crimes. How many were charged with federal crimes?
Starting point is 00:41:27 725 of them. By the end of 2021. Yeah, no, it was they threw the book at all those people. Is it a witch hunt? So, I don't really get in a whole J6 arguing thing, but I've always heard the stat thrown around. There was like four police officers that died on J6, and I thought that wasn't right.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And then I just remember looking into it. So the stat that gets thrown around is four cops were killed. One officer died the next day from a heart attack. Four officers died by themselves over the course of the next several months. And those are the five deaths that are getting accredited to J6. Yeah. No shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:17 That's COVID counting, right? Right. Yeah. For sure. Everyone that dies is COVID. Those are cold. accident, COVID. Those are comorbidities is what I think the, uh, you caught nine millimeter COVID.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I see. Yeah. Yeah. I just always thought that was a crazy stat to go and throw around in that fashion. Right. How do they associate any of that? Because it's politically convenient. It is.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Yeah. There's no other reason. Like, I mean, you got those, the people that were saying, like, you can, again, debate the the merits of it, you know, all day long. But the people that drive me crazy. you're the ones that are like, oh, this is worse than 9-11. It's like, yeah. By absolutely what metric.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Yeah. You know, same thing. I'm sorry, according to some streamers, America deserve 9-11. Which streamers would those? Oh, never mind. I think I know the one. There's more than one. I love, this episode is turned into,
Starting point is 00:43:14 Eli learns about January 6th. I know. Wow. Wow. Just sitting here the entire time, this definitely won't be brought up. been a congressional ride. Yeah, 9-11 changed everything. I mean, we had relative peace from 89 to 2001 because the wall fell.
Starting point is 00:43:29 There was no more Soviet Union, right? So we had no enemy, actually. Like, we got an arms industry, but we don't know who we're going to bomb. So 9-11 looked really convenient, right? So now after 9-11, now we can go to war and go kill these guys for 20 years. Yeah. We're talking about G-Y. I know.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I think it was a short war. We've heard about G-Y. we only lived through it. It's funny. Dude, it's wild seeing individuals join and then their kiddos served with them while deployed. That's crazy. In the aviation community,
Starting point is 00:44:06 they like go out of their way to do it, but the buff, the B-52, they've been in flight for so long. There are B-52s that have been piloted by the grandpa, the dad, Like the Air Force will go out of their way to be like, hey, I need, I need to fly this B-52 because that's what my grandpa and my dad flew. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:44:28 They try to make it happen. Yeah. Just so you can say, like, three generations of my family flew that bomber. That's fucking fun. Which is really cool. That's really dope. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Things been in service forever. Three generations of my family, uh, join the mile high club in this fucking thing. Yeah. Like, yeah. I'm sure it never happened, but like you just imagine like walking into a B-52 and there's like graffiti with like your dad, your grandpa and your dad's name. Yep. Sketching.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Grandpa Joe was here. Also dad. It's just in the knife. Give me a pocket knife. It's just the last name. You know, Hernandez was here below it again. Double it. Give it to the next guy.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Were the B-50 U-2s used just recently or what was cited? Yes. That was cited over, yeah, B-52s. If there's big bombings going on, B-502s are getting missed. Because we were talking about that. It's like, is this either way terrifying. B-52 is a good show of FI of Air superiority. Explain that one.
Starting point is 00:45:34 It was what was seen earlier that day. Oh, they were saying that because Trump had the whole thing with Iran, like you guys are going to, we're going to have an agreement by 8 p.m. on Tuesday. And there were sightings of a shit ton of American aircraft flying over England. and their path and where they were, it would have put them over Iran at like, over Tehran at like 745. So they saw,
Starting point is 00:46:00 they saw B-52s, they saw B-1s, and they saw some other planes all headed that direction. So they're like, oh shit, he's not kidding. Like that is on route right now. Yeah, your dasher is on the way.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah. Just a plane. Sitting there with your driver, yeah, your datcher, and then the plane. Your datcher is picking up order. Jeff from Nebraska. That's your package. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Oh, God. Five stars. You need to make that tweet. Like it's, and it's obviously, you know, it's an objectively good thing, period, that it didn't have to go there. You know, we got time at time recording, but you know that there was like a jarhead moment
Starting point is 00:46:56 where one of those B-52 pilots got the fucking call. And it's like, damn it! I've trained for this for years. This is all I wanted to do. A hundred percent. Just edging. Yeah. It's like, aw.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Now I got blue bombs. Because, I mean, I imagine they, like, it's probably been a while since, one of them's run a combat mission. If ever. Were they used, who dropped the new pilots? No,
Starting point is 00:47:23 I just mean B52s in general. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because who, who dropped the, uh, Moab or what plane dropped?
Starting point is 00:47:29 Moab was C130. Yeah, so B52 probably hasn't been used in. B52s get used all the fucking time. I mean, any, any bombing campaign is the,
Starting point is 00:47:40 the workhorse is the B-52. Like if we're, if we're doing any heavy bombing, it's, B-50s. That's true. I guess I because we never did. I mean, in Iraq during the G-WAT
Starting point is 00:47:54 the surge, there was no just dropping bombs anywhere because it's civilian population and you're just hearts and minds inside the little city of Baghdad or wherever you are and you're just going door to door. So we never got to, I mean, I've told the story the few times we got to drop
Starting point is 00:48:10 a J-dam. Everyone's watching through a gas, but it wasn't a B-52 in combat that we know. was 2024 against the Houthis in Yemen. But that's what I mean, like any, any mass airstrike bombing, like they're bringing in B-52s. Like B-1 is meant for slightly hostile air. B-2 is, we're not supposed to be there. And B-52 is go-f-yourself.
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Starting point is 00:50:38 Oh, pants. That's fucking wild just thinking, watching. that destruction of not like one building, but just everything getting leveled. Houthis weren't we there when they made the call, or we were told about it, right? Thank you. Sorry. At the White House, is that what they were talking about when they killed all the
Starting point is 00:51:00 terrorist training camp? Yeah, I think it had just the thermal footage had just gotten released, if I'm not mistaken. I mean, that's what a B-52 carries. How many pounds of gun? Wow. Dear God. Yeah. I mean, it's.
Starting point is 00:51:19 That's a lot. It's a commercial jetliner full of bombs. And they're telling me I can't have carry on more than 50 pounds. Wow. Holy shit. I want to say it's 180,000 pounds of ordinance they can carry. I'm double checking right now. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Sorry, 70,000 still. 70,000 pounds of bombs on a plane. It's like 100 fat chicks. were you on the conversation when we were talking about the World War I footage of just mortars getting dropped during the Battle of Verdun. They have footage of it. I'm not sure if I sent it to you. We were talking about it. I can't remember with who.
Starting point is 00:52:06 But do you know how many mortars were dropped in that 10-month period of time? Mortars in heavy ordinance. I believe it was a Battle of Verdun. the opening scene in the movie The Kingsman, where they have the like the recap of World War I where it's just dudes standing on mountains of empty mortar shells. That's based off of the Battle of Her Dunn. I mean, it was as soon as they're done in the factory,
Starting point is 00:52:29 put them on a truck and get them to the front line. Like they were just firing everything they had constantly. It was insane. You know how many shells they? No. 70 million. Yeah. And then the footage is,
Starting point is 00:52:42 they have footage of it and you're just seeing round after round there is no pause it is every second half a second something's hitting and exploding it's fucking wild to watch fun story you're talking about how as soon as they were off the factory floor
Starting point is 00:52:57 they went in a truck and went to the front lines and were fired immediately in Stalingrad during World War II on the Russian side there's stories of it not even getting that far because they were literally coming up the German lines had gotten so close
Starting point is 00:53:12 to the factory that when they were rolling out the new PPSHs, they were test firing them out the window at the, at the German lines. Yeah, I mean, there's stories, same thing, Stalingrad, like German or Russian tanks rolling off the assembly, like open the garage door and drive the new tank directly into battle. Yeah. Like, it's crazy. I didn't know about that. Oh, yeah, it was gnarly. I mean, it's a major city. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I mean, that was that was 40 million lost during. Oh, I mean, it was. No, sorry, total. Total Russians were like 20 to 40 million lost during World War II, right? I don't know. I want to say it's 20 to 40 million. Let me see. We do a lot.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Nick is our historian, so we learned a lot. That's cool. That's cool, man. So when he's on, it's like, ask questions. Russian deaths, Soviet citizens estimated between 24 and 27 million. Wow. That's fucking just cities gone instantly of a population. Yeah, this total includes approximately 8.6.
Starting point is 00:54:11 to 10.7 million military personnel. That's like twice a population in California. I think California's like 10 mil. I think it's way higher than that, isn't it? I don't know. Let me check it. So much. Cali.
Starting point is 00:54:24 I thought it was 10 mil. Also randomly, I was just looking it up. California population is 39 million. 39 million. No, shit. To give you guys an idea how big California counties are. California is significantly bigger than Iowa. Iowa.
Starting point is 00:54:37 No shit. Iowa has 99 counties. California has 56. The counties in California are fucking massive compared to most other states like being a sheriff in California is like a big deal.
Starting point is 00:54:53 You're in charge of a lot of territory. Yeah. Sounds like a fucking pain in the ass. Why are you still in California? Good question. It's a good question. I think it's because
Starting point is 00:55:02 my parents are buried there. My friends are there and my kids are there. That makes a lot of sense. Where am I going to go, man? Texas. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:11 I already told you, Q. West, dude. I know. But then, like, I don't know, man. I just feel like I'm running then, you know? Yeah, I got you. I feel like California is a shithole, but it can be better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:24 No, it's beautiful. It is. Like, every time we go there, we talk about how wonderful it is. San Diego. The worst part about nice weather. In Korean? Fucking idiots love nice weather. We have a word in Korean.
Starting point is 00:55:37 It's called Koyang, which means hometown. Like when you ask someone like, hey, where's your hometown? Where was your koyang? You know, oh, I'm from here. I'm from there. So I see California, L.A. as my quayong. It's my hometown. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Where I'm from. And that's where my roots are. Yeah. It sucks. Newsom f***ed it all up. It does suck, you know? But hopefully that'll change in November. I know you've got big things happening for you in November as well.
Starting point is 00:55:59 So hopefully we'll see it a turn. And I think culturally, we're at that point. We're swinging the other way. You know, we're swinging more. I hope so, but you have kids. Like, you have a young. I do have kids. kids too. But the 17, 18, 19 year old, these kids, they're different than the
Starting point is 00:56:14 millennials. Yeah, they're like, they're saying like all the studies and stuff. It's the first generation to be more conservative than our parents. You should hear them on this court. You should hear them on discord. Like all even my kids like the way they talk like they have no filter. Oh no, I hear my son on discord. Yeah, I see what he likes on Instagram. Yeah. I think they I think dear God John. Yeah. I keep trying to tell John that like people can see what you like like on Instagram, a little man.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Like you can't keep liking these posts. Okay. You know, uh, dude, just really quick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:49 There's Los Angeles. That's the city. Yeah. Yeah, there's the city right there. So then you'd have Burbank, West Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:56:56 This is L.A. County. Yeah, that's L.A. County. Oh, it is that entire. It's big. There.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Everything. Yeah. So in 92, that's what was being ride it on, like all those different cities. Do you know what ended up happening to Rodney King? Well, he got a settlement. He got a $3.8 million settlement.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Yeah. You know what happened? He drowned in his own pool. Two years later, he drowned in his own swimming pool. And then his toxicology was you had PCP cocaine and he was drinking at the time. Yeah, PCP when he was running from the cops. Yeah. L.A. County.
Starting point is 00:57:37 So that's core tax money went, went to do that. L.A. County is 4,700 square miles. The state of Rhode Island is 1,500 square miles. L.A. County is bigger than some states. Yeah. You have multiple airports inside this county. Multiple. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:58 And not small airports. Burbank. Ontario. Long Beach. Ontario. L.A.X. Yeah. So, I mean, riots covering the whole counties.
Starting point is 00:58:08 It's a whole state. 92 was organic. I mean, everything after it was just been, you know, it's been funded. But 92 was organic. That's crazy. And then going back to that picture that we were looking at the magazine, David Zhu, that store. Yeah, it's been 30 years. But he was actually giving me firearms that week.
Starting point is 00:58:26 So he had Korean owners that cams like, hey, like, we need to buy something. And, you know, you have the whole background. We're like, what fuck that here? Just take this, take this pistol, take some ammo, bring it back when everything dies down. So there's kind of an honor system that went down. down to where he was giving away like guns and then they came back. One of the few situations where loaning out guns
Starting point is 00:58:45 and getting the back use probably increased the value. At least if you sat on it for 30 years and you could prove. Which is wild because then I wonder if that helped some of the laws that went in effect later where you can't even loan. I don't know if California has those. I know they've
Starting point is 00:59:02 got them in some of the Pacific Northwest states. Well, that's what I'm saying. I wonder if it had any connection down the road. I mean, down the road, you're like, well, they handed it out, so we need a rule so they can't do that. I mean, that was even before the Brady bill, if I'm not mistaken. 92. So they didn't even have federal Nix checks yet.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, none of those, but then they look back Washington State. You can't, like, I can't even give you one of my rifles. Yeah, the, well, the example that's used a lot is I think it's an Oregon, might be Washington, but I think it's Oregon, where they said they got so strict with that, you know, transfer. what is it transfer that if me and you go hunting and we're traveling over this barbed wire fence, you know, cutting through a property,
Starting point is 00:59:45 if I go, hey, here, grab this for me real quick while I go over this fence, you've just committed a felony. There's Seattle, Washington State has that. Was it Washington? Okay. I knew it's somewhere in Pacific Northwest. That's all stupid. We couldn't even do a film.
Starting point is 01:00:00 We were trying to film something with a gun, but it was the gun we wanted to use for this kit was our buddy's father's. rule it just passed these like I can't let you guys use it for filming it's like why it's like oh it's illegal now it's an actual crime yeah I mean he nope no go no I mean Virginia's getting close I mean they're they have like they had a full like blue sweep of their uh their their state delegation you guys notice that that's that there seems to be kind of a wave that's coming for this for them
Starting point is 01:00:33 I mean for Virginia it's been happening for a while it's been a slow creep as DC just floods and floods and floods into down into Alexandria and all the areas of northern Virginia. It's just getting progressively worse. All these federal employees. Yeah. What are the new Virginia rules? They just enacted that like the past month, right? They're trying to get it through.
Starting point is 01:00:50 So there's a state senator who was born in Bangladesh. Like he's not even American. Comes to the United States and puts forward probably, in my opinion, probably one of the most egregious anti-gun laws. I think I know who it is. Of all time. Yeah, I know he's talking about all. And he's, yeah, some state senator and it's, I mean, it basically is just a blanket
Starting point is 01:01:07 it ban on some of automatic firearms. Yeah. Well, when my book comes out, I'm hoping it to propel that to me, to me talking about first day and second day, but also from a perspective, not actual, not just legal gun ownership, but some of the stuff that happens on the legal side, too. Yeah. So once the book comes out, I'll be able to elaborate more on that. Sure.
Starting point is 01:01:28 You said first day and second day? First and second amendment. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, first day. First day. First day. First day. First day.
Starting point is 01:01:35 First day. Got out of it, got it. Yeah, so I'll be talking about, like, you know, 2A for a state. And I'm kind of tweeting about that now, you know, because I think there's a lot more restrictions that are coming from some of the other states.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I mean, they're trying to California and not is like all the other states. I mean, it just came for Colorado. They just passed a pretty, pretty egregious gun bans coming for Virginia. Like, it's, I mean, Texas is going the opposite direction, thankfully.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Like, we've, we had a pretty good pro-gun state legislature this, this cycle, and I'm hoping to have a better one next. Beda, you know what I hate? Max is leaving money on the table. I really hate missed calls, too. Is that it in the first one, you said?
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Starting point is 01:03:11 No miscarst, no miscarstomers. Only Zool. I hate the, every state can interpret a right under the Constitution. It's like, I live 30 miles from the Minnesota border. I can't legally carry a Minnesota, but I can legally carry in Iowa. And like I can be doing something completely legal and I can drive down a gravel road into the wrong state. And now I'm committing a crime that.
Starting point is 01:03:35 can get me 20 years in prison. That's what insane to me. Constitutionally, we need, if not nationwide, constitutional carry, at least nationwide reciprocity. Because, like, they, I think South Carolina did it. It went to the Supreme Court, if I'm not mistaken, where it was impeding, it was about seatbelt laws or helmet laws. I think it was helmet laws, where it was impeding your right to freely travel, because each county had their own rule. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:58 And like, no, you can't do that because if I'm driving across my own state, you know, in your case in South Carolina, it's like, if I'm driving across my, my own state and I have to keep stopping and checking the rules and checking the laws every county county. Like it's an unrealistic impeding. It's unrealistically impeding on my right to travel. Which is hilarious for you to bring up because you, A, don't wear a helmet when you're driving your motorcycle. I do not. Texas does not have a helmet. You wear flip flops while you're driving your motorcycle. I'm not a smart man. I do enjoy the meme of like nothing, nothing quite like getting a seatbelt ticket from a cop on a motorcycle. Like, you start to realize it's not about safety.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah. It's always about control. And revenue generation in that case. But I'll be talking about that once the book comes out. I'll be more vocal. You're not talking about 2A, first A. Looking forward to seeing it. Yeah, pushing back on some of the stuff in California. Yeah, you're getting in the whole doing what Brandon's doing.
Starting point is 01:04:54 No, he's smart enough to not run for office. But still trying to make a change. Yeah. I was doing that long before politics and I'll do it long after. Yeah, everyone should get involved. I mean, everyone should know what's going on with the country. I mean, I do what I do because I owe a debt of gratitude to this country. You know, I mean, it's given me my life, my livelihood, my children, you know, my family, my future.
Starting point is 01:05:15 So, in a way, I feel obligated, you know, to do what I do, you know. And I think if we don't, within a couple of generations, I mean, you're going to have kids or not going to remember, like anything in terms of the First Amendment and Second Amendment. In fact, when I was coming here on a plane ride, I talked to some 18-year-old kid. he was considering going to music school at USC, which was my alma mater. So we had a long conversation and talking about the First and Second Amendment. And he had no idea that the Second Amendment was basically to stop against government tyranny, not just for protecting against, you know, people, you know, looters, robbers, whatever,
Starting point is 01:05:51 you know, but against the government, against tyranny, you know, and that's what it was. And he was surprised to hear that. And I was surprised to hear him say that he wasn't even aware of that. The comparison that I use all the time is, you know, in the time that the Second Amendment was written, the founding fathers didn't just finish up winning a war against deer. Yeah. No, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Like this was very intentionally put there. Yeah, they actually had British troops stationed inside homes at one point, too. You know? leading to the third. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I think it's important to talk about this now sooner than later because I think with this new generation of kids that are coming up,
Starting point is 01:06:29 I think the timing is going to be right to talk about. A lot of things that are conservative, like guns. First Amendment, you know, just freedom of speech, stuff like that. With this next generation that's coming up from what I'm seeing. And there's a lot of that, that I've, especially with the younger crowd, there's a lot of people that are, you know, eager to bitch and talk about everything that's wrong with this country and stuff like that. And then like, you have the ability to do that.
Starting point is 01:06:52 If you don't agree with the direction of your government, of course, that's literally what the First Amendment is there. Right. But there's not a lot of people, especially like in public schooling, ironically enough, that there's not a lot of people that are being told or not enough people being told what makes this country so unique and so great. All the things that are afforded to us that they don't have even in other Western countries like Europe.
Starting point is 01:07:15 I mean, the ability to not go to prison for a Facebook page that somebody disagrees with. Right. Like that's, and, you know, we've got to stay vigilant on that in the United States because if we don't continue to hold those, those values, that can erode. Yeah. And we've seen that. Start. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Yeah. And it starts with the education system, too. I mean, we don't teach U.S. history anymore like we used to. Or civics. We don't have civics class anymore. You know, and that. I want Nick-style jingoism taught in every classroom across America. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Put me on TV. Put me on PBS. Yeah. Yeah. We need a balance in our education system because right now, like in public schools, you got a lot of leftist and lefty ideas, Marxism that's happening. And they get indoctrinated in junior high high school. And then they go into colleges and you got these college professors that are old,
Starting point is 01:08:02 like my I am and they're telling these kids what, you know, this is what it is, this is how socialism is and they think it's gospel, you know, but whereas, because they don't have anybody at the universe. Here's how the real world works, kids, coming from the guy who's never had a job outside of academia or experience. I was sent to kindergarten and I haven't left school since, but let me tell you how the real world works. Those who can do.
Starting point is 01:08:25 So I would love to go on college campuses and debate some of these professors. College professors are so hard to get to debate you. They don't do it. Yeah. Yeah. They cannot rely on anything. I have a degree. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Make it make sense. Address the point. Can't do it. What is it the fallacy argument by authority? Yeah. Appeal to authority. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:09:24 Nick loves socialism and communism. It's a huge fan. Huge fan. It's what he's known for. I can't believe this is all resurfacing again. I mean, this was during my grandfather's time when he talked about what happened during the Korean War and how that war started and what he did with his family
Starting point is 01:09:41 they had to escape to the south because the north was actually, they had him on a list and they were gonna, they were gonna kill him. So he had to take his family and move, you know, take our family, you know, from my mother's side and moved to the south and he had to like flee. So he, you know, I hear stories like this growing up
Starting point is 01:09:57 as a kid and then now I'm about my grandfather's hatred, I'm getting there, you know, and now I'm living this again, right? But now instead of a story, you know, being told, I'm actually fucking living the experience. Like, you know, I'm watching the resurgence of socialism, Marxism, communism. It's okay. This time they'll do it right. I'm sure they will.
Starting point is 01:10:16 They'll do it right this time, Tony. This time they got it figured out. That wasn't real communism. We should let me try. Me and Connor were joking about something a couple days ago and we were talking about like there was something that was like monopoly being like, uh, anti-capitalist sentiment when it was first made. We're like, well, to be fair to them, back then communism truly had not been tried, probably sounded pretty good on paper.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Like, to have that view in 2026, it's like, well, it was tried in a bunch of places. Once I had food, the other fucking didn't. So like, I don't, I don't understand how this is still a conversation. Every argument just needs to devolve to, hey, when the wall fell, who ran which direction? Oh. What else do you want to talk about? Like really, really cool factoid. talking about the Berlin Wall
Starting point is 01:11:06 in the Main Street, I think is what it's called Main Street Casino in Las Vegas they have a giant chunk of the Berlin Wall and when I say giant chunk I mean several feet like a huge chunk of the Berlin Wall in the men's bathroom and you can piss on it.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, I have pissed on the Berlin Wall. No. Yes. It's cool. Dude, some of the... I did a video where I highlighted just some of the craziest ways that people escaped East Germany. It was like some of the shit people did was crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Motorbikes. Motorbikes, there were people that were taking gas tanks out of cars and just having like a gallon of gas, just enough gas to drive in, pick somebody up. They would strap them where the gas tank was and then drive out. There was one family. Somebody actually made a kid's book about it. I bought it for my kids. But it was two families created a business.
Starting point is 01:12:04 so they could justify getting a bunch of fabric. And then over the course of two years, they skimmed enough fabric from running this business to build a hot air balloon. And they custom made a hot air balloon and flew a hot air balloon over the wall. Successfully. No shit.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Made it to West Germany to escape. I think I read about that. It's like, you're not going to sit here and tell me that communism is better. When two fathers said the best thing for my family to do is to get inside of a homemade wicker basket propelled by a flame thrower and try to escape this shithole. You're not going to tell me that's the better option of the two. I'm sorry, go f*** yourself. So funny enough, my, uh, so, so Oma, right? My, my, my grandmother,
Starting point is 01:12:51 she was a German civilian during World War II, uh, you know, grew up under, you know, the, the Nazis and then, uh, later on through the, uh, American occupation essentially of, uh, of Germany. They apparently, she had relatives that were in East Germany. And they were apparently fairly affluent or they were politically connected in some degree or another. And they had, you know, like Mercedes-Benz, like they had, you know, they were pretty well to do. And they were writing letters basically saying, oh, you should come over here. Like this is, you know, we'll take care of you because we're actually, because they knew that like, you know, rebuilding of Germany. Like it wasn't going so great for them for the immediate future.
Starting point is 01:13:33 And they're like, oh, you should come over here. And, you know, like, we got plenty. We can take care of you, essentially. And they decided not to because they're like, if we go over there, we can't come back. Yeah. Like there's, you can always go in, but you can't leave. And it ended up being the correct call. Some of the stuff they did to keep people in was crazy.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Because, like, originally there wasn't, like, the wall and everything. Like, it wasn't there. But they had, they called it the brain drain where it was just like, everybody that, got degrees and everything would immediately go to the west because it was better. And then we can't keep letting this happen. So they put the walls up. And then people were obviously escaping. And then it got to the point where the wall, it was the wall.
Starting point is 01:14:17 And then on the other side of it, there was a 15 foot wide sand pit. And then the sand pit wasn't to like stop or slow people down. It was to get the garden trouble because then they knew they'd go by and check every morning that, Oh, if your sector has fucking footprints through the sand, you let somebody through and didn't shoot them. Either show me the body or we're taking it out on you. Yeah. Like, it's diabolical. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Didn't they have, like, mines, razor wire towards the end? I don't know about mines. I know they had razor wire. They had all kinds of defenses. They had a underground directory of people's underwear. That was wild. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Yeah. Yeah, the Soviets would, if you were a person that they deemed was likely to run away, they would go to, your house and confiscate your fucking underwear and they would put it in a jar and label it and then if you did escape they had your fucking scent to give the dogs. That sounds like something I would
Starting point is 01:15:15 believe the Japanese would do. That's wild. Yeah, when the wall fell and they went into like all the Stasi, the East German secret police like they had just had rooms full of jars of people's underwear that they were going to fucking track your ass down with. Yeah, it's for tracking you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:31 It's just a random dude that has a Can you smell a ball sack? What the f***? That only fans. Did your dad come from? Where was your, are your great-grandfather? Okay, grandfather. Was he north, south?
Starting point is 01:15:47 Yeah, he was up in the north. No shit. And then he ended up living in the south, so in Pusan, which is the port city. But he was up in the north. Your grandfather fought in the Korean War? No, he actually, he didn't. Okay, so there were grandfathers fought each other, dude, I'm sorry. Oh, no, he didn't.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Yeah, he was, he was, like, in Pusan during like, when it was the Pusan perimeter, when they were pushed all the way down the peninsula. Yeah. And he was stuck there. Holy shit. So he basically, he had, when he escaped and he went south, that's where he ended up. That's where everybody had to end up. Yeah. And South Koreans got pushed all the way down.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Yeah, he ended up just staying there. And he bought a farm and he just, like, lived there. And then, and after that, he sold the farm and came to America. No. So what time? What, what year? Um, let me think. It was like 80.
Starting point is 01:16:31 84. I think it 85 before. My mom passed away in 87, so he came a couple of years before that, a few years. So like 84 around there. And you were born in Germany before that. So how did that happen? So what happened was after the Korean War, there was an agreement made between the West German government and the South Korean government,
Starting point is 01:16:52 where they would send aid package financial aid. In turn, the South Korean government would send the young men, strong, able-bodied young men to work in the coal mines. in West Germany. No shit. And then the women, like they sent, were, became nurses. So they were all, you know, nurses. So that's how my parents met in Germany.
Starting point is 01:17:11 My father was working the coal mine. My mom was a nurse and they met. And then I was, from what I'm told, I'm actually the first one that was born in Germany. Like, that's what other people have told me. Because I'm like the oldest out of everyone that's born in Germany or in Europe at that time. Because we went back in like 97. So in August, there's a huge gathering of Koreans, like either in Germany. or in the Netherlands where they celebrate,
Starting point is 01:17:34 and I forget the day, it's in August, but it's the, it's the Independence Day when they were liberated by the Japanese, from the Japanese, right? So they celebrate that. It's in August. So all the Koreans get together and they hang out and they'll barbecue, cook pork, right?
Starting point is 01:17:51 Barbecue, and then I met some of the other guys that are close to my age, but I was actually the oldest out of all of them. They're like, you're probably the first one that was born in Germany, you know, know, from all the people that immigrated there, you know, that were part of that work visa. That's crazy. So, yeah, that was a while. But was your grandfather, did he tell you any stories of that escape or that journey?
Starting point is 01:18:13 Well, see, my grandfather's really, he was kind of a gregarious guy. He spoke to a lot of people. So he kind of became like the de facto, like mayor. So when they had the list, the North Koreans had a list, his name was on there, including his brothers. Just because he was influential? Yeah, because he knew a lot of people. He's influential and he can sway people the way he would talk and stuff. So he actually escaped into the hills and hit out in the caves.
Starting point is 01:18:40 And then one of his brothers got caught. And then they were actually threatened to kill him. So they had to come down from the caves and basically live under the North Korean rule that was there at the time. And in a way for them to extract information from him is they would take him out into the field late in the evening telling him that they were going to shoot him. unless they gave him, he gave him certain information. So he'd go out, you know, certain evenings they'd take him out and, you know, he'd have to talk to him and stuff and they'd bring him back. And he told me one evening that he went out and he had a weird feeling because the guards were
Starting point is 01:19:09 different. They were acting different. So he felt like this was it. And it's at that moment when they were in the rice fields and, you know, he felt like this was going to be the moment is when, like, U.S. Army choppers, like, flew overhead. So that's when these guys, they got spooked and they took off and he was able to go get his found me. That's the evening that he took off and you went through the south. Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah. Damn.
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Starting point is 01:21:22 Yeah. Fascinating. That's weird because at nighttime. via satellite photos, I can see one of the Korea. It's all propaganda, Brandon. North Korea's pop. It's all made up. Kim Jong-ung actually did invent the breeder.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Big candle enthusiasts up there. He doesn't shit. His body's too efficient. Is that a real thing? Yes, 18 hole and ones. 27 under par. First time you ever golfed. See, that just sounds cartoonish.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Like, I'm willing to believe that it's real, but I also, I'm trying to put my, I'm trying to put myself in the mindset of somebody who believes that. Everything in North Korea is kind of cartoonish. Let me put a gun to your head. You'll believe anything. It's the enthusiastic clapping. It's purple.
Starting point is 01:22:05 I just saw a recent video where these IT guys are hiring like Koreans, right? I saw this. You saw that? Yeah. So basically they're trying to filter out North Koreans, right? Because they're trying to get these IT jobs. So one of the things they have them do is like, okay, well, you know, can you just
Starting point is 01:22:18 for the camera tell me that Kim Jong-Lun is a big fat pig? and the guy's like you could tell he's just paused and he couldn't fear like do I say do I not say and he's like boop and he just disconnects a call yeah he knows what I'm talking about yeah I've seen it he's straight like because they won't speak out he won't say it yeah it's illegal to yeah yeah and you have I mean we got to see it in Iraq people still had Saddam pictures up on their wall this is well into the search like Saddam been hung at this point nope they won't take it down because he'll come back and kill him Yeah, it's that mentality.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Yeah, it's rule through fear. That's exactly what would be from a childhood. You're just fed information. In the video, when they're telling me, hey, say that Kim Jong-un was a big fat pig. Like, I just froze. He couldn't say anything because he's in his head. Yeah, he's thinking like, shit, do I say it or not say it? So he just disconnected the call.
Starting point is 01:23:12 There was one that I got, I like with like the Chinese scammers because you could pretty quickly tell. Yeah. There was one. I can't remember if it was like, it was, there was. were soliciting like, hey, would you like to get like custom like toys or Legos or something like that? Like of your brand like Legos. And I said, you know, I replied because I normally I just, you know, block it or ignore it or whatever. I don't know. I was feeling froggy that day. I was like, yes, I'd actually love to. Can I get a custom Lego set of the Tiananmen Square Massacre?
Starting point is 01:23:41 No response. Red. Yep. Like, like, well, it's worth a shot. Huh. Damn. What was your grandpa? After the war ended, what was their perspective of watching it all unfold? Like, oh, I made the right decision. Yeah. I mean, he always, he hated commies after that. He called him, we called them, well, we still called them here bygengi, which is like reddies, reds.
Starting point is 01:24:07 So we call them reds in Korea. So he's always had animosity towards them, more so than the Japanese. When you say it in Korean, it does sound like a slur. Yeah. I mean, it's, I like it. The thing is right now in South Korea is like they're kind of going more towards the left. And it's because of feminism, because it's a lot of the women that are pushing it. Because of the whole feminism movement that happened in Korea.
Starting point is 01:24:31 So they're basically trying to push that. And because of that, it's becoming very leftist. And what's interesting is that Korea is actually run by large powerful families called Chebbles. These are guys that basically Samsung, Hyundai, you know, LG, those companies. Right. Those families pretty much run Korea. It's 60. I want to say it's like 60% of the GDP. It's a big number. Families.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Yeah. And none of these families are saying anything about what's going on politically, culturally. How do you say Rothschilds in Korean? A lot of people don't know that. They control. Rothschilds. You got LR. You got an LR. You got a LR. The Rothschild. Loth child.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Taking me back to a Christmas story. But that's a crazy amount. 60% of the GDP with like a handful of families. And those families aren't saying shit about what's going on. Those families are they marry within each other too. Like it is a weird class system at that level. And that's powerful. And that's fine.
Starting point is 01:25:44 End up down the line. be a little fucked up. Oh, it never has. Or even the human history. You're going to end up with England or something. Yeah. The fucking family tree looks like a telephone pole. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:57 That's fucking crazy. Yeah, it's wild. But yeah, that's why, because of that, I mean, I don't have a preference towards socialism, capitalism, I think any sort of ism, it's basically what it is. It's you've got a small, minor, a group of people that are in control, and they'll use whatever ism to keep everything, everyone else under control. And I feel like so far capitalism is probably the best because it allows you to basically, you know, start a business, you know, do things, right? It's only when it becomes monopolized by like huge companies. Which is where you have the
Starting point is 01:26:30 delineation, I think, between capitalism and corporatism. Right. Exactly. But any sort of isom is is usually, you know, punctuated with powerful families that are going to be in control on top. And And they don't care whatever the ism is as long as they're still in power. And that's what South Korea is. And essentially, that's North Korea too. Because in North Korea, you have powerful families that they're not part of that hierarchy. They're just way up there. You know, because they probably came up with the regime, you know, or like in South Korea,
Starting point is 01:26:58 they're part of a large family. So in North Korea, those powerful families, are they, like, de facto affiliated with the government? Yeah. Or, okay. Yeah, a lot of them are because some... North Korea is, that is the family. Yeah. Well, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:27:11 They were saying affluent families in North Korea. I'm like, okay, that's interesting. It's just human behavior. I mean, like you take any country, you'll have families that are kind of like in the political space, you know, or, you know, they're within close to within the halls of power, is what I say. You know, they're close enough to it where they're not affected by the rules of whatever ism, you know, that they're living under, you know. So like North Korea is a good example where it's very segregated according to class, you know. So you have your own social circles. You don't move up or down from that.
Starting point is 01:27:42 And you're locked in. Yeah, you're pretty locked in. It's still crazy to the rule. Was it the three generation for a crime? Like, oh, you fucked up, Brandon? Your grandkids will also pay that toll. Yeah. And we're going to get your parents too and your uncles.
Starting point is 01:27:57 And we're just, you know what? We're just going to get everybody that you're connected with. And that's pretty much what it is. So you won't escape or attempt because the second you attempt. Now it's, oh, if I escape North Korea at my entire family, going to be killed. Speaking of, like, that's something I'd really like, I know we've talked about this a little bit before,
Starting point is 01:28:16 but I would love to get one of those North Korean refugees or North Korean escapees on the podcast. I feel like that would be. Shout out to Ina. She's trying, we're trying to make it happen. She doesn't speak the best English right now, but she escaped with her sister. And she's actually in Austin right now.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Oh, no shit. Again, she's like, I don't know. We have to find somebody that can speak Korean. That's why I asked her. like, oh shit, how fluent? And you're like, ah. I think better Spanish than Korean. Because I'm from L.A.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Did you ever find that Cuban pilot that I want on? Dude, I've tried to reject me. I want him on so bad. Damn it, I want him on so bad. Cuban pilot? I think his name's Ernestez Perez. Well, the one who defected? Yeah, the one that defected flew a mig into Florida, landed it on a U.S.
Starting point is 01:29:06 airstrip and escaped and turned the mig over to the American government. They gave him. citizenship. And then he had this in the 80s, right? Yeah. And then he had a, he had a Catholic nuns smuggle a letter into his wife and kids, like be on this country road out in the boonies at this date at this time. And then he acquired a little puddle jumper airplane and flew it from, where's the
Starting point is 01:29:31 islands we were at for your bachelor party? He flew it from Key West, six feet above the water all the way to Cuba, landed on this little country road picked up his wife and flew him back and got his whole family out. Nice. Holy shit. Nice. Still living in America. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:30:49 something new and they overinflate how good it is by like 35%. Yeah. And America is like, oh shit, we got to catch up. Their plane's better than ours. So we make a better one. But ours is actually better than what they were lying about. So now we're 40 years ahead. Let's just not update the F-15 for four decades. It's fine. Like, that's the truth. That's literally what happened with the F-15. They're like, wait, you guys made a plane that can shoot down satellites? What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:31:16 I've never thought about that. Even with the Abrams, how far advanced they were. I wonder if the crew was like, whoa, they can't even see us. Explode. Then you got like the Russian, I remember they were hyping that up. Like their new big, super crazy, you know, Russian battle tank that like the first time they rolled it out at that parade, it stalled. And they were, I don't think they were able to fix it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:38 The Russians make better tanks in America. Insert American Bradley's f***ing up, T-72s. Insert an aluminum, an aluminum-armored infantry vehicle, just shit stomping, a heavy tank. Like the Bradley's? Yeah, sorry, yeah, Bradley's. Bradley's didn't fuck around. It was a 20-mike, 25, or 25, I believe,
Starting point is 01:32:00 25-millimeter chain gun? It's the hellfire missiles that really fuck them up. But then they take the chain gun and they're like, hey, hit all the optics on the heavy tank. tank so they can't see anything. Dug, don't, do, do, do. Depleted uranium.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Fucking tears through everything. It was, well, it was like the one, there's like that Ukrainian video where it's the, the Bradley just, up a main battle tank. I think I saw that. And just like, it's just, you just see the explosion every,
Starting point is 01:32:28 they're all just direct impacts on the tank. It's not penetrating the armor, but it's fucking up everything on the outside. And it reminds me of that meme of the guy who's playing like CSGO or something and just continuously getting flashbacks. Oh, yeah. Dude, what the, with the MIG thing, wasn't that the first MIG captured? I don't know if it was the first MIG captured.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Sorry, I'm looking up the stats for 73 East. There was a Russian guy that actually flew a MIG as well. And turned? Yeah, he turned it in. Yeah, I remember. 73 Easting, when the Bradley's and shit rolled in against Iraqi forces, took several slightly damaged vehicles, took out 160 plus Iraq. tacky tanks.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Oh, yeah. The stories from 73 Easting of the Bradley guys are insane. Like there was, there's one story. They interviewed the guys on those on History Channel. But it was Bradley's operating as like a forward scouting element. And they came over a hill of sand.
Starting point is 01:33:26 And they're like, oh shit. And it was just Iraqi tanks everywhere. And then they only have two, it's hellfires that are fly by wire, right? of javelins. No, it's not javelins. Those are in fly-by-wire.
Starting point is 01:33:41 It's the fly-by-wires. They only have two on each Bradley. Like the toes? Toil missile. Yeah, toe-missile, fly-by-wire. They only have two on each one before they have to reload. And to reload, somebody has to get out. But it was like two Bradley's got in an engagement and took out five Iraqi tanks and then dipped and didn't get caught.
Starting point is 01:33:59 So in Easting, my old shop, or not shop, a construction foreman. I was actually in that engagement. He was a tanker. And he, it was, it was the meme. Anytime he talked about it, he did not have PTSD. He had nostalgia. It was, he talked about it very fondly. Everything went exactly how I hoped it would.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Correct. Nice. I never understood the wire part of the tow system. You steer it. I know, you have the screen. Did you ever in your military or Cody see the string everywhere? No. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:34:34 Zach's got a great story about it, though. If you have a direct connect. you can't jam it. That's okay. That's why they're doing it with drones. That's where you see those pictures where like fields and Ukraine look like fields covered in spider webs because they're using fly-by-wire drones now so you can't jam them.
Starting point is 01:34:50 That makes sense. Because over, I mean, you just see gold wires, copper wires, and that's what we'd be like, oh, fucking tow missiles have been here because they're just laid all over ranges or wherever they're actually getting used at. Yeah, there's entire fields in Ukraine now that it looks like there's a net over the landscape. But it's just like fiber optics. covering like homes fields it's crazy no shit yeah i mean it makes sense as we've discussed how the battlefield's changing so you're going to have different systems but telling you i'm still waiting for them to come out
Starting point is 01:35:20 with a little nine-mill sea whiz that some grunt can just mount on his rucksack yeah that's what i want you know what i mean like imagine hey carry the radio and the mini sea whiz he's just got a little over his head and just the tall guy gets it every time Little nine-mill guy. I think it'd be awesome. Yeah. That is funny. Give it to the tallest guy in your group.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Yeah. Good idea. A little mini guy just, oh boy. We haven't done that. Yeah. We've done that in a long time. What?
Starting point is 01:35:56 We have a fake superhero. You know the Avengers. We have our own superhero group called the offenders. Yeah, where you get to pick your superpower, but your superpower has an offset. And we have a, We get to pick what the offset is.
Starting point is 01:36:09 So for example, I can fly, but in order to fly, I have to shout racial slurs. Okay. So you get to pick what superpower you want, and we get to come up with your offset. Okay. Wait, can we go down the line? Yeah, sure. Yeah. So my power is, like Deadpool, like I can't be killed.
Starting point is 01:36:33 But the offset to that is I'm constantly. myself. So I just wake up the next day. And then, you know, if there's, I'm hanging from the ceiling fan, it's like, well, I'm, we had a bad Thursday. I'm, uh, I'm postnut clarity man. So I have all the powers of like Professor Xavier from the X-Men, but only for like the five minutes after I come. Oh, what? Post-nut clarity. I got a nut first and then I have all the powers for that five minutes of play. We need a solution. We have to say. the world, Nick.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Wait, there's a lot of pressure. We have to save the kids. No, Nick, no. That's so much stress. And then I am the... The Brown Street.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Crime. Hell yeah, crime cut. Yeah. I think you changed yours. Super speed. Yeah, I like the flash. But then I cannot interact with anything
Starting point is 01:37:33 or object for about five minutes so I can show up to stop a crime. It's going to happen for five more minutes before I can help anyone. He's just got to stand there and watch. Crime Cucke. So you choose your superpower and then we pick the offset. I'm going to be like, you guys know Colossus from Marvel? Steel skin guy.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Yeah, he turned it in. So that'll be my superpower. Like I can turn my skin into steel. What's my offset? Let me use the restroom. Is that okay? Can I go? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:04 No. You're giving us. time to think about this, Tony. It automatically does it near black people. He wants it to or not. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Yes. It only works on a roof.
Starting point is 01:38:21 I do like it's just people just think he's racist. It looks like he's defending himself. Anytime he goes to help. It's like locking your doors. He turns him around. He just turns the metal. not, I'm sorry, it just does this, it just does this.
Starting point is 01:38:39 You're rolling the window. Some of my best friends are black. That's it, Nick, good job. I haven't control of it. So what's the offset? You can do it. You can become steel whenever you want, but it works automatically near black people. Everybody's just going to assume you're super racist.
Starting point is 01:39:04 I can only turn it to steal. Oh, skin. No, anytime you want. But it happens automatically outside of your control anytime a black person walks up. Like Connor said, it's like locking your doors in a parking lot. So everybody's just going to assume you're racist.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Thank you, everyone. A little black kid runs up. The crowd's just into the superhero version of clutching your purse. It's not me. Yeah, you don't walk up the other side of the street. That's cool. I like that. All right.
Starting point is 01:39:35 Cool. At the grocery store The teller's black He walks up to insert his card Looks up and shoot I'm Sorry It just turns off when the door closes
Starting point is 01:39:48 Black is just watching it It's fucking racist Good job Nick That's a real good I like the offset Yeah It works It works
Starting point is 01:40:04 I see this as a complete win. Jesus Christ. We haven't done the offenders in a while. Oh, man. There's some good skits in that one. What else? So now you do also martial arts. You're big into M&A.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Yeah, I did a... Big into water bottle. You know, defense. Podcasts with Jake, Jake Shield. That was cool. I had a good time with that. Oh, no shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:29 And then I did podcast with Miller, ma'am Miller from bully beat. beat down yeah he's a cool guy and we had a good time doing that but yeah i do uh m m ms a bunch of those ms guys have podcasts now yeah yeah i mean i think that's where everybody's kind of going right doing podcasts and whatnot so it is a very a lot of people do it now it is crazy how many podcasts are out there microphones are cheap yeah what it's the meme of like with all the podcasts popping up it's like i truly believe there should be higher restrictions and background checks on buying a podcast microphone than a f*** guy.
Starting point is 01:41:07 How long you've been doing martial arts or what? Oh, since I was like seven. B.JJ. Yeah, I did tequendo. I did moitai. I did wing chung. And I guess more with that. That's Bruce Lee.
Starting point is 01:41:20 Yeah. I did my do collie, Eskrema, which is the Filipino martial art. It's the one where you said it's a, the stick. Sticks. Slade. Oh, yeah, yeah. And, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:29 And it's grappling. I mean, was that what Rambo did in the beginning? of Rambo 3. Yeah, that's Kali. Okay. Or Eskimo. Depends. I don't even know that one.
Starting point is 01:41:38 With the Toesimu? Yeah. Like, he's like doing the little cage fighting. Mm-hmm. Yeah, the two sticks? Yeah. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's, yeah, that's Filipino martial arts. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Like, Taekwondo's Korean. Yeah. It's like Padre Il-Chong. I remember that way back in the day. It's your people. No. Filipino? Filipino.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Filipino, but Korean is Taekwondo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Koreans look down on Filipinos. Yeah. He like, he like,
Starting point is 01:42:02 Yeah. They do. No, I don't, but no, that's, they do. Skin turns to metal. You're a what? Close enough. No, but no, there's a, in Asia, there's like, you know, like East Asians, like Chinese, Japanese, Koreans. They kind of form their own. They're like, okay, we're East Asians.
Starting point is 01:42:20 They look down on everybody else. Not all of us, but some of them do. And there was this whole thing, and I think it was between South Koreans and some people from, like, I think it was like Malaysia, Indonesia. because there was a K-pop concert and some Korean photographers were taking pictures and stuff and they were in the way and they were telling them like,
Starting point is 01:42:39 hey, you're in the way and they're like, fuck you, shut up, man. Korean photographers? Yeah, because they were taking like, you know, K-pop videos, right? Asian photographers or whatever. No, he's Asian photographer. What?
Starting point is 01:42:51 Common moot is right. Yeah. I didn't know they had those. So there was this whole beef between the two like Southeast Asians and East Asians. I mean, it's retarded, but whatever, you know. That's what,
Starting point is 01:43:02 spurred it? I guess that's what spurred. Yeah. I mean, I didn't dig too deep into it because I just, like, it's just whatever. But it's kind of like, someone got offended because of the photographer and then there was this whole beef between Southeast Asians and East Asians and yeah, I try to stay away from that stuff. Asians are. Very racist against each other. But in my book, pretty much everybody, actually. Yeah, actually, most, only white people are racist. No, I assure you. Dude, I'm super racist. It's the, thank you for saying that in frame with me. Appreciate it. It was like the Bobby Lee thing where he talked about the Koreans or he's just like, oh, yeah, well, like, you white people, you're the ones, you know, you had slaves.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Like, Koreans never had slaves. And then they Googled it. And it's like, Korea had the longest unbroken chain of slavery in the world history. You know what's interesting? Because we all look alike in Korea, right? I'm not. Right? We all look alike.
Starting point is 01:43:52 You can say it. Yeah, I can say it. Cody, you know. No, you guys can see it. We can all these Chinese this entire time. We can all say it. Right. We can all say it.
Starting point is 01:43:59 But I'm just saying like, in Korea, the reason. the way you distinguish someone from a slave class was by the last name. So if you had a particular last name, that's how they would denote you as from the slave class. If you had another last name, you're like an aristocratic class or the merchant class or whatever. So it was very common to have certain slave names
Starting point is 01:44:21 that were like, you know, prevalent in Korea. And is there still like any trickle down to like modern day where it's still like frowned upon to have that? No, not really. I mean, maybe 30 years ago during my dad's time a little bit. It's still fucking reason. That's very crazy. But yeah, Korea has slaves for a long time.
Starting point is 01:44:39 God damn. Yeah. What got you into martial arts out the gate? Oh, I got into a lot of fights as a kid. So my dad was like, here, why don't you go learn something, you know? And plus, I grew up in a largely Hispanic Mexican neighborhood because my dad owned a store in Boyle Heights, which is like the armpit of East L.A. Go learn a screamer.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Yeah, so. You need to know how to fight? Once he got that story I was fighting pretty much every kid for two years Like every other kid for at least a couple years That kind of ties into what I was going to ask about earlier Because you'd kind of implied you're like I knew how the police operated
Starting point is 01:45:14 Like I knew a lot of stuff about the police Because of the things I did beforehand It didn't seem like you were implying You were part of the junior police association I wasn't Okay I mean when the book comes out It'll it'll outline a lot of stuff
Starting point is 01:45:29 But yeah, it's just, like, it was the 90s. I mean, you guys, GTA 5, San Andreas, like, it was built, you know, it was about the 90s. Yeah, it was the 90s. The peak violence. Yeah, everyone was involved with something, you know. I mean, LAPD, like 98 Rampart, you know, that, you know, they were, LAPD at that time was very different than LAPD now. And you had guys that were in the academy in the 60s and 70s that were in the force in the 80s and 90s. And they had a whole different mindset in terms of how they dealt with, you know, just the public.
Starting point is 01:45:59 especially like a lot of the street gangs that were out at that time you know so when the when the riots happened I mean it was it was wild because every few blocks you had a squad car you know you had a heavy LAPD presence in the 90s at that time and then when the riots happened you had no presence at all how long did that no presence that's also a wild thought process or just no one's going to help you other than the community easily for about three four days national guard National Guard came on the weekend They came on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:46:31 So from about Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, maybe even part of Saturday. And there was like no police presence. One of my favorite stories is when they were getting the Marine Corps ready to go in for the L.A. riots. I don't know this story. They were training. It was a training incident. So nothing actually bad happened. But they were training the Marines that were trained in riot control to cooperate with the police force.
Starting point is 01:46:55 And there's some cultural differences between the two. and during a fire exercise, some of the police officers instructed the Marines to cover me. At which point the Marines said copy and then proceed to light that bitch the fuck up because cover me to a Marine
Starting point is 01:47:12 and cover me to a police officer are two different things. So there's just a story of like, let's not open up with the saw if I say cover me. We need to come up with a different term. What the fuck did they mean with cover me? Just watch?
Starting point is 01:47:25 Yeah. Just overwatch? I don't know, but it wasn't Get the 240 up. Well, make the machine guns talk. Do da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. I would say, yeah, that's a pretty severe cultural difference. Cody, when would you say cover me as a police officer?
Starting point is 01:47:43 No, it's the same exact thing. Like, watch someone with a firearm. Is all you to watch not fire? Yeah, no, no, I never said cover me. Okay. I was wondering about that. Like, it's just like, hey, watch myself. or something like that.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Yeah, it wouldn't be lay down indirect fire. Get that more or up. So with that, how was the evening with just no police presence? I'm just trying to, it's those little things I don't think people think about. It's like at night when you're still sleeping, chaos is happening all around. Yeah. So you're just watching your house. Constantly.
Starting point is 01:48:25 Like during that week. And are you there? Do you have a parent or a family member just staying up or watching the house just to make sure it stays secure? Were you like, oh, we're safe because we're in the neighborhood? Yeah, we're safe or in a neighborhood. It's mainly the commercial retail areas that were affected. So a lot of liquor stores in my book I talk about this place called Fredericks of Hollywood Laundery Place that got broken into stealing lingerie during this time. I mean, it's just chaotic.
Starting point is 01:48:51 I mean, just people, if there's an opening to go into a store to take shit, like that's what they were going to do. And it had nothing to do with, like, you know, being upset about Rodney King. It was just opportunity, you know, because because there's no more social order, no police presence, you're left to your own devices. You can do whatever you want. So people kind of lose our mind and do shit that they normally wouldn't do. And that's what I saw that week. You know, people going into a liquor store coming out with bottles and you look at them, they just look like regular people. I mean, you wouldn't think that they're transients or anything.
Starting point is 01:49:24 They just look like the guy who lives up the street. So when you have that, like order breakdown, then people pretty much, you know, they go on their own instinct, their own whims, whatever they want to do. And I think that's where the shooting was in Korea town. It's because you had a group of immigrant, young immigrant men that were basically, you know, coming from a place where they just, you know, went through a civil war in El Salvador. So they have a different mentality coming into L.A. And then when they see there's no order or police, I mean, they're pretty much going to do whatever they want to do. too. Yeah, especially coming in El Salvador at that time you had MS-13, cell phone.
Starting point is 01:50:01 That would kill you for a cell phone. And they value human life completely different than a first world country. So chaos is happening. I'm like, oh, I can kill these people. I'm not worried about, I might get in trouble and have what I want. And these guys that came in from El Salvador MS, they changed the landscape in terms of gang warfare in the 90s. Because they didn't give a fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:23 They were shooting at cops, LAPD. openly shooting at cops this was like unheard of back then this is why la pd kind of got heavy-handed as well during that time too could you imagine experience that you're the leo here imagine going through that shit oh we would be taking people's shoes and throwing them in the fucking storm drains dude yeah I'm like what does that mean like that's that down for me I'm like If your homeboys want to shoot at us, if we pull you over for a simple traffic thing, and we know you're related to these guys, we're going to take your Jordans and we're going to throw them in a storm during.
Starting point is 01:51:08 No shit. Like we're going to be mean to you. You want to be mean to us. We're going to be mean to you back. Yes. It's a respect thing. We know you're doing your game. We're going to do our game.
Starting point is 01:51:16 But if you fucking want to escalate situations, we're going to be very, very mean to you. God, that's just like a no-win situation because it's all just. and then everyone's just smacked up in the middle, like, cool, this fucking great. What was the thing that stopped it all? Any of you? I think everybody just kind of worked it all out of their system by Friday, Saturday. And plus the National Guard showed up on the weekend. And then we found out the National Guard, their clip was empty.
Starting point is 01:51:43 They had no ammo. They were just standing around with empty rifles. Like what? Yeah. Yeah. Standing around with empty rifles. But it was basically just more of a show for force, because they came with Humvees as well. and they're parked in the middle of an intersection.
Starting point is 01:51:56 Did they have live ammo like on their kids? No, they didn't have live ammo. Oh, Jesus. From what I heard and understood, they didn't have live ammo that weekend. Maybe they got it afterwards, but like by the weekend it was pretty much over. And then there was a huge- That just sounds dangerous. It makes sense.
Starting point is 01:52:08 I mean, that makes a lot of sense. This is part of the challenges that we have with a lot of the leadership in the city and in the county as well, you know. And then there was a protest march on Sunday that weekend. All of the Korean community came out and they basically walked. Korea town to protest again what was happening. This was actually my first protest that I went to. And there was a young kid that died around my age.
Starting point is 01:52:32 It was like he was a year young enemy, he was 18. His name was Eddie Lee, and he was shot by friendly fire by guys. And the reason why he was shot is because he was dressed in a particular way. He was wearing a white T-shirt, blue jeans, and he was wearing Nike Cortez. He looked like one of the Hispanic gang members. So because of that, I think he was mistaken. He got shot around dusk, right? So they couldn't make out who he was that he was coming to help.
Starting point is 01:52:56 But they ended up shooting him. So it was an accident. And that's what kind of turned the tide? Well, no, it didn't turn the tide. Well, how was that because it was friendly fire? Did it, like, escalate? Or, oh, we need to de-escalate. We didn't know.
Starting point is 01:53:10 I didn't know about this until the day of the protest when we were walking when we found out, like he got shot. Because this is pre-internet, pre-per-just information, you know, quick information, right? You don't find out about stuff until like a few days later. This is the news. That's what's wild about this. I couldn't imagine it during the age of fucking social media where you can post it and talk about it or spread that the chaos. I mean, summer of love.
Starting point is 01:53:34 We've talked about a shit ton and all the coverage you got. That's just, as you're saying, organic chaos. So you would classify this as a mostly peaceful protest. Which one? All of them. Yeah, using CNN standard definition. Yes, using the CNN definition, it was mostly peaceful protest. Most of the city wasn't on fire.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Yeah, most of the city wasn't on fire. Yeah, it was hard to ignore it because once the fire started going up on Wednesday, Thursday, and then by Thursday, the whole city and the whole county was kind of covered in a layer of smoke. You smelled it when you got out of your, you know, walked out of your house. Then you'll hear occasional gunshots here and there, and then it'll pick up towards the evening more shots. I know for a fact that a lot of scores between rival gangs were settled that week as well because, you know, there was no police presence and they weren't going to do a, you know, they weren't going to do an investigation. The literal fog of war.
Starting point is 01:54:33 Exactly. Bro, I did not realize like the fight. You're not joking on fires. Like they burnt that shit to the ground. I didn't know it was that bad with the fires. And, you know, California, Southern California, notoriously good at handling fires. So good.
Starting point is 01:54:55 Like, holy fuck. Yeah. And just a side point during the 2020 BLM riots, they avoided Koreatown altogether. Well, once bitten. Did they? Yeah, they did. Purposely.
Starting point is 01:55:10 They avoided career town. Wild. That's what happens. What? I wonder how the gun laws changed since then, if just still being in Korean town trying to defend your place, but all the new rules into effect? I think, you know what? When you have a situation that's like out of the ordinary, then you have to have special
Starting point is 01:55:32 circumstances that cover this out of the ordinary circumstance, you know, this situation that you're in. And I think it's hard to prosecute someone who's basically doing something that's going to, you know, it's for their own livelihood, for their own survival, you know. So it'll be hard to prosecute that, I think. And anyone that's going through a situation like that in terms of a riot or, you know, chaos, I mean, I would always advocate to defend yourself. I don't give a fuck about the gun laws, you know, like, you've got to defend yourself. Because, you know, honestly, like, if you don't defend your own family in your neighborhood,
Starting point is 01:56:05 who's going to do it? The cops? I mean, no offense, but the cops, the cops are going to do it. Nowadays, the cops are just there to write a report. They actually want to get there late because they don't want to encounter the crime so they can just be there and write the report. And that's kind of what we're relegated to now. In California, Texas, I'm sure, is different.
Starting point is 01:56:21 But in California, that's what we're relegated to. But my mentality's always been the same. I mean, I don't give a fuck. You know, honestly, if someone's coming at me, I don't give what the gun laws are. You know, they're coming after me and my family or they're going to try to harm me. I want to make sure I take them out before they take me out,
Starting point is 01:56:36 regardless of it's with a gun or my hands or whatever. It's water bottle. Yeah, well, it's kind of become a, like, a cringe bumper sticker statement. But, I mean, it's still, like, it holds true. It's the saying, like, it's better to be carried by... Judge by 12 than carried by 6. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:56:51 Yeah. No, I think, yeah, it's cliche, but it makes a lot of sense. Yeah. The sentiment's still true. Yeah, it is. And Cody talks, like, highly of just the...
Starting point is 01:57:01 How would you approach that, Cody? Like, walking into that situation where they defended their family, are you still enforcing the federal law or the state laws at that point when it's clear as day? What's... Because it's...
Starting point is 01:57:14 officer discretion. That's where I'm wondering. There's not a lot of officer discretion there. There's not much. There's not much a beat cop could do like going in, investigating something like that. I have a question for you just because I'm not sure, but I think this is how it works.
Starting point is 01:57:29 I'm asking if I'm correct. Like, I think if a cop shows up to like a self-defense shooting at a house or whatever from the cops, because my understanding is like, you could be on this person's side. Like if I shot somebody that broke into my house, I tell you what happened.
Starting point is 01:57:43 You're like, yeah, this makes a complete sense. I believe this guy. Everything he's saying adds up. Nothing should happen to this guy, but the DA's a dickhead. The DA can still come after me and then I could go to you and be like, hey, well, you testify on my behalf. You were the cop that showed up first.
Starting point is 01:57:58 And the DA can just not allow it, even if you think I'm in the right. Or is that, am I wrong? And you could testify on my behalf. It all comes down to facts. There's no officer discretion after the fact. But me personally, if I went into that situation, I saw that you defend yourself. I would be as vague as I could on the report, to be honest. But I'm just saying because it all comes down to like,
Starting point is 01:58:21 basically can the DA block you from testifying? Yeah. I'm not sure at that point. Like even if you're not trying to fuck me, like you're genuinely on my side. Like anything I tell you, the DA can still use against me and twist. Yeah. Even if it's not how you interpreted it or what you meant when you wrote it in the report. I don't think the DA can stop the right to remain silent also.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Yeah. Yeah. We've seen some weird things. No, no, I know. Well, shit. I mean, like, dude, we had Gascon, which is like a shit DA for a long time. You know, this guy let everything go. You know, so, yeah, the DA has a lot to do with prosecuting these criminals, you know.
Starting point is 01:58:57 And that's kind of the problem that we had. We had a DA that wasn't doing his job. It was Soros funded. You know, a lot of these DAs are funded by Soros, and they're put purposely to let crime run rampant. I mean, they'll go after guys like us, but when it comes to somebody who's held up 18 liquor stores. Right. And that's the whole thing about gun laws.
Starting point is 01:59:15 They don't apply to criminals, you know? And yeah, it's only guys like us, you know. So, yeah, hopefully in my book, I'll be able to kind of take a stand on that as well in terms of talking about gun laws and how they only really apply to, you know, the average Joe Jane citizen versus the criminal who basically has no care whatsoever, you know. I don't think you'll find any arguments here. Yeah, I know. But, I mean, I think, sorry, I know you got a hard.
Starting point is 01:59:41 it out. Yeah, I know. Yeah. No, but what's your, what's the book? What's the title of the movie? It's Rooftop Korean. Boom. Yeah, Rooftop Korean. It's publishers, Wargate, really great guys.
Starting point is 01:59:54 Ex-military, just like you guys. They're just on top of it. And they just tell me where to go, what to do, right? We already know that. You're going to be on Amazon. Where can you purchase or pre-order it at? From Wargate themselves. They tell me that if it goes through Amazon, they get a smaller cut because of Amazon.
Starting point is 02:00:10 and Amazon has like some shit deal about like sometimes they'll return palettes of books like I don't know just they said it's easier if you just order from them directly Yeah, so for more gate so website It's on my Twitter page you can also go to Wargate I'm on my X handle sorry on my X handle like I have the link there as well Which is at roof Korean 7 yeah roof Korean 7 my name Tony Moon Yeah, yeah and is that where everyone can find you just Twitter's the name? That's the only I have an Instagram, but I'm just like I don't use it as much or often, you know, I should. But yeah, X is probably the best place to find me.
Starting point is 02:00:49 Plus it's a lot more fun. It is a lot more fun. Dude, we truly appreciate you. Well, thank you for having me on. Cody's going to close this bitch on. Yes, sir. Thank you for coming to the unsubscribe podcast I was joined today by Eli Double Tapped the Fat Electrician, Tony Moon, Roof Korean, Brandon Herrera and myself, Donut Operator. Thank you so much for being here.
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