Unsubscribe Podcast - Stolen Lego, Police Corruption & Part 4 - Reckless Ben SPEAKS OUT | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 272

Episode Date: July 12, 2026

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Cody, you want to start us off, you beautiful son of the gun? Hi, everyone. Welcome to the unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tap, fat electrician, reckless bin. Victor from Victor's World. Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator. Thank you so much for being there. That slide off the back was very sensual.

I missed you. Clearly. Someone had to go to the 250. Indeed. Had to. Had to. Forced to go. Worse to the...

life. Twisted. Brandon kicking and screaming. I don't want to be here. Oh, God, no. And now you're back, though. And now I'm back. No, it was, it's actually, it is actually genuinely good to be back in San Antonio.

I haven't seen my own house in like seven days. Ugh. I do. No. Godspeed. Also, look who we have. These two beautiful sounds of guns. Yeah, what up.

I haven't seen my house in like a couple weeks. Did it get foreclosed? I don't know. There's just been a police officer. My roommates have been texting me saying there's a police officer. There's a bank across my house, and the police just wait in the bank, like, every night for me to come outside of my house, I guess. For what? I don't know.

But we know that the Los Angeles Police Department is working with the American Fleet, a forked police department, which is working with the Provo Police Department. And they're all working together to try and, like, get me for some reason. I don't know. I think they have, like, they're trying to serve me like a second type of, like restraining order, I guess. So one restraining order wasn't enough. Then you just a second one. And to say the two, the two that's against you. So one's against, uh, from Bix and mini figs and the other ones against Josh.

It's just Josh personally. Yeah. But they're like, like, their phone calls got like leaked. And so like we can like see him on the phone calling. They're like, hey, like, where's Ben at? And like, we don't know where he's at, but like we're at his house and stuff. So the way we're going to approach this podcast is as if the audience has no idea what you're talking about because I have no idea what the fuck you're talking.

So we get to rewind to the beginning of reckless bin. That was good foreshadowing, I guess. That's called a hook, you know. Excellent. Yeah. That was the best hook. Brains like, I want to fucking know now. Yeah, that's a foreshadowing hook, and then you get to rewind a little bit.

We do non-linear storytelling all the time. Let's not do it tenant style. Like, if you're doing non-linear storytelling. Okay, so there was the world's largest Star Wars Lego collection in the world, owned by the Mansell family, just this family up in Oregon. And they, it's, their dad has cancer. He's in poor health. And they're like, okay, let's finally sell this collection so we can,

give the money to the grandkids to pay for their college before the dad dies, you know, and let's just get them paid out. And that's like all the dad wants to see is his family paid out. So they put their collection in a store called Bricks and Minifigs, which is basically a GameStop for Legos. So GameStop doesn't like work with Nintendo. They're not, they just resell Nintendo games. So like, oh, give me your old games.

Yeah, and then I'll give it to you. So that's what Bricks and Minifigs does, but with Legos. They buy people's Lego's stuff. sets and they resell them for hopefully to get a profit. I'm sorry, it sounds stupid. I understand why the word bricks is in the name of the store. What do mini figs have to do with Legos? So a mini fig is kind of like this thing right here.

It's like a little Lego guy, you know? Okay. That's what we call the people. Yeah, the little figurine Lego people. And I'm not really big. Bricks and people is just a name of like what the cartel brings across. Yeah. So a mini fig is a lot of times those are the collectibles.

It's like a really rare. and they actually sell for up, like they'll be like $10,000 for one little mini fig, you know? It's like Pokemon cards. Connor, you're into mini figs. Connor hates mini figs. Yeah. Connor's into mini figs.

He's a mini fig. He's like Connor is a mini fig. Legitently, my contact info for Connor is still a, it was like AI generated, just like a, a blonde Lego chick holding a trouse. But yeah, so basically he puts, so there's a lot of debate

on how much this Lego set was worth. I was originally told it was worth $200,000, and then Coffeezilla did a video finally might be worth $100,000, but then maybe there was some sets that he missed, so maybe it is actually $200,000. I don't know, it's anywhere from $100,000 to $200,000. It's a lot of money.

Yeah, but basically it was worth up to $200,000. So they, on Bricks and Minifigs' own page, they literally put on the post that is worth over $200,000. That's where that number came from. Yeah, yeah. Gotcha. They said it on their page.

Yeah, so we were just taking their word for it. And then, but it's, it's in the six figures for, that's not, that's for sure. It's a six-figure Lego Star Wars collection set. They put it in this bricks and mini figs to consign. So in the contract, it says these are still the man sells families, but every time one gets sold, they'll give a cut to the store as a thank you for helping them sell it. But at the end of the day, the man-sell family owns the Legos, not the store. So for whatever reason, corporate takes over the store.

There's a big debate on what, like, was this, were they allowed to take over the store? Were they not? That doesn't matter. Corporate took over the store. When you say corporate, like, is it like a chain? Yeah, it's like McDonald's. So there's franchises. So corporate bricks and mini figs has all these franchises that they have, there's, I think,

300 franchises around the America. And they all operate independently, and they all get to make their own decisions. So corporate takes over the store, because apparently corporate is claiming that the previous owners broke the franchise agreement, so they could take over the store, and they're like, these are all our Legos now, even though it was never the store's Legos to give to that. It's almost as if I parked my car in the parking lot when corporate took over the store, and corporate's like, oh, well, we own this car now because it's in our parking lot. It's kind of like if something's on loan from a museum, and then the museum changes ownership.

They're like, oh, no, this is ours. Yeah. And so basically when Brian heard this, he's like, okay, well, can I get my, my Legos back? and they said, no, well, these are our Legos. We could take over everything in the store. And he shows him this contract. He's like, well, I'm in a contract. And they look at the contract and like, well, this looks legit,

but it's between you and the previous franchise order. I'm not a part of this contract, so I don't have to follow it. And so his word for word of what he says in the video is he says, in order for me to be under contract, I have to sign something. And since I didn't sign anything, I have no obligation to follow this contract. But obviously that doesn't make any sense because like that works when you take over a business. You take over the business. You also take over the other obligations.

Exactly. Legal and financial. Yeah. And when they took it over, what was the, did you know the exact reasoning of like, hey, we're taking the store back from the previous owners? So Bricks and Minifigs' side of the story is that she was late on rent, up to $200,000 late on rent, which seems pretty bad. Her side of the story is bricks and mini figs locked her out of her bank account.

So she tried to pay the rent, but Bricks and minifigs would not. let her pay for it. So there's two sides of the story. At the end of the day, whoever's right, whoever wrong, that's their problem. But his Lego sets got stolen. Like that's not Brian's problem, like that business dispute, you know. So at the end of the day, whether or not it was, like, if it was illegal for them to take over the store, they still stole the Legos. If it was, even if it was a completely legal takeover, they still stole the Legos. Because they even took on the footage of when they're taking everything from the store or kicking them out that day. That's when they ate it was brought up to him on camera like hey what are we doing oh okay and their story

always changes so at first their story was when we took over the store the store was empty none of his Lego sets were in the store that was their first story and then they changed it oh yeah we actually because the previous owner took pictures of everything that you can verify with the timestamped metadata timestamps on the pictures and it matches the exact time that as a security camera footage of when she's getting kicked out of the store so the metadata like the timestamps match up but so after we showed them that, then oh yeah, these Lego sets are in the store, but there are Lego sets, there are inventory now. We don't have to give them back. And then their story just always changes. So every time we provide them new evidence, they change their story. And it's, it's crazy to, like,

just watch them like make up stories in real time. It's pretty funny. But the way we got involved was Brian goes to the police. They call it a civil matter. The police can't do anything. If you want to get them back, you have to sue them. However, every single attorney he went to said, if you sue them, it will cost you more than this collection's worth. It'll cause, because you have to shut down the store to request discovery and get an inventory to do that. I don't know legal stuff, but this is... That doesn't sound right at all.

They said it's going to cost like probably $300,000, just to sue them for a $200,000 Lego set. So you're losing money. So no matter what he does, he loses money. So he was like, well, I'm just going to get some YouTubers on this. And a lot of people were saying that Brian should get a lawyer, but his wife is literally a lawyer. So he's sold obviously to her and a lot of other attorneys as well. And he said every single attorney said it's going to cost us more money. He said we've

talked to at least four or five attorneys. Every single attorney tells us it's going to cost because they can always find a way to drag it out. Like, oh, we have to get our insurance involved and that's going to take two years. And now all these lawyer fees, they said no matter what they're going to drag it out so long that it costs more money than what the Lego set's worth. That's what and we've seen that it's almost happened with us, which is they just drag it out as long as possible to cost the individual as much money as possible until they can't fight it anymore. There was a certain theater in our live shows that tried to attempt to do the same thing.

And if you look at the previous companies from everyone involved, the CEO used to be in a company called Legally Mine where they would come up with loopholes on how to drag out cases to screw over people that try to sue them. And they have, this actually just aired yesterday. There was a clause called the Revenge Clause in Legally Mine. mine, which is a way to avoid paying lawsuits that you lose. And so he's like in the revenge clause, the reason it's called revenge is because, oh, we're going to punish them for suing us. So yeah, they sue us for like $2 million. We now have a loophole so we don't have to pay them. We can

just like close our business down. And then now they have to pay income tax or some type of tax on the money that they're never going to get. So they have to pay $400,000 on this tax now. And they get nothing. And that's why it's called the revenge clause. And that's an actual clause in their company. And it's kind of what they did to us, you know, like we sued them. They shut down their store to avoid PRAS. Yeah, exactly. So Brian goes to, uh, to, uh, he was just reaching out to any YouTuber he could. A few YouTubers tried doing videos on it, but right when they started making videos, uh, corporate bricks and midi-figs sends them a season assist slider, like, if you talk about this, we will sue you and we're going to destroy your life. And so every

YouTuber that's ever tried to make a video on this has just gone like silent, like, like right when they're about to make their video, they just don't post it. And, And then Brian gets to us and we get sued, what you say, like every single video we've done pretty much for last six years. Yeah. This guy. Like I beg for a lawsuit. He gets sued by TBS for $5 million. So you know what he does?

This is when you were smaller. He was like, oh, I got an idea. I'm going to sue TBS for $5 million and $1. Yeah. So when we cross to each other, I come up at top of dollar. It was sick. And so they stopped. TBS was like, all right.

Seriously? Let's stop. Yeah, no, actually. That's fucking funny. And the executive producer. or if TBS is on the phone with me, he's like, we're playing hardball with you, we're going to get a million-dollar lawyers, we're going to show you and stuff. I'm like, bring it on, dude, like it's going to say. And one of the questions I had regarding lawyers is there's a difference

between a consultation and a retention of attorneys. And obviously, the conversation you get with consultation is very different than retention and retaining counsel. So being that you guys have retained counsel rather than just a consultation, we want to dive into that. We want to take that to next level and see exactly what is, I guess, what is next for Reckless Ben and Victor's World. So it's kind of complicated. So we're dealing with a predicament right now where all of the lawyers want us to switch judges because right now we are dealing with a local judge and a local jury that might, I mean, you saw how episode two played out where they all maybe might be.

to get connected in some way, which the audience can assume what I'm talking about. But yeah, but basically, like, okay, so what if we take this to federal court and then we get more statewide jury? And it's not just like local townspeople that all know each other, you know, because like American Fork is like one neighborhood. It's like the whole city knows each other, you know? And then we're some weird YouTubers from California coming in, like barging our way in here, like thinking we own the town, you know.

So like it looks, it's a bad look. Yeah, they might be thinking like, get them out of here, you know. So we talked to a lawyer earlier and he was leaning on taking it into federal court. So that way they look more at the facts and less of like, okay, like we're going to protect our friends because everyone knows each other. It's a small town. Everyone knows each other, you know. So it's like, and also it's the same judge that's doing the Charlie Kirk case if we do

the American Fork case. So he's already used to. like half of America hating him. Yeah, because no matter what decision he makes, half of America is already going to hit him. And that's like a really big case. So he might be looking at this Lego case and it's like, oh, like this is whatever.

So I know that at a certain point, judges can recuse themselves or remove themselves from a case based on their network, their circle of friends and everything else. But how do you guys have a vehicle? So a lot of times on the criminal side, the pathway or the vehicle to a Fed case is an appeal. How do you start off with saying, hey, we'd rather not do a local case and go

straight to a federal case? Do you have that? I guess. We just send it? I don't know. They're going to what the lawyer said earlier was that he's going to basically request it. I think that's what it was. Maybe we just, he's like, hey, we're just so funny on these calls. Like earlier, we were just like on the call and like, like, I told my side and I was like, because I'm part of the court thing, too. And I was like, listen, I think... Victor's World is a YouTube channel. So I should have brought my gold vest. And also, that's like a totally different, like, character.

You know, I got to, like, just really put it on. But we're discussing the legal standard. Ben's so funny on these calls. So, like, these guys are, like, so serious. It's like, all right, so Ben, tell us, like, your gut feeling. Like, what do you want to do? Do you want to just have this, like, more local? Do you want to take it to federal court?

And Ben's like, I don't know. I'm kind of like 50-50 on. I'm just going to go with the flow. Like, I trust you guys. Whatever you guys, whatever you guys is happy. Whatever you guys think is best, like, I'm good for it. Dude, we got like the best lawyers in the world. Why am I going to tell our lawyer what to do?

Why not just let him tell us what to do? No, that is true. I do understand that. The way you came about it is so funny. You're like, I don't know, like, whatever you think is best. I will say this. They are legally obligated to go in the direction of their client. Yeah.

To present everything. Yeah. So for you, like, it's important that you look at, hey, what direction do I want to take this? But he studies the law. I just joke about things. How am I going to know more than him? He's obviously going to have a much better opinion on this than me. He did.

He did tell us his side, though. He was like, at the time, he said that he's more 60% towards federal. And then he found out new information. And he was, like, leaning more towards doing federal. I think he's probably also used to rich or powerful clientele that are more demanding. And if you even hint what they're supposed to, they'll get mad. So if he hinted in the past towards some clients, You're like, no, I didn't.

Oh, I see. I need this. No, the whole conversation is me being like, I have no clue what I'm doing here. Like, you tell me what to do, you know. I will. That's basically our whole conversation. I haven't, like, we don't, we've never done this before. And it's so crazy.

So I, you know, we had mentioned the $1.3 million that we're getting, like, sued for. I asked about it. And I was like, so is Ben getting sued for 1.3? Is it like a combination of all of us? And what's his name? I'm not sure if I'm supposed to say his name. Don't say that. The guy who's helping us.

This guy that's helping us was like, he's seen this stuff before. He's worked with like really big celebrities. He's like, that is a placeholder. They will sue for way more when the time comes. He's like, it's going to be like 10 million plus. So is the 1.3, does that pertain to defamation specifically? That's just a placeholder. He said, he said every day this goes on, there's more damages.

There's more. They're going to tack on a lot of stuff because they're going to say like, oh, these are the sales. Yeah, lost sales and like, definitely. from like all these other people like posting or whatever they're going to say. Yeah. I think you do these big numbers too because it scares the client. Because you hear Tim it.

The bigger the number, the scarier it is. Oh yeah. Yeah. So we gotta have the biggest number would be the scariest people in the corner of me. Well, Smooth Sack Summer isn't just about looking good. It's also about doing good banks. So I manscaped and the testicular cancer society has teamed up. You all know that one man every hour.

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And I'm like, okay, I guess I'll hear bricks and mini figs inside of the story. So we get in the car, we drive 16 hours up to Oregon. We did a huge road trip. And then also with some just people I just DM me on Instagram, they're like, hey, can I be in your next video? I was like, yeah, it's fun. So we just picked up some like random fans to come with us. And then we just got like,

these like really cheap spy glasses like 50 bucks in Amazon and I just put them on. Yeah yeah. I walk in. I'm like hey I think my friend has Legos in your store. He's having a hard time getting them back we just like get them back. It's very casual you know just walked in like can we get the Brian's Legos back? I picture the glasses are not casual. No they're like super nerdy. They've got like spy kids written. I literally no I'm not recording. I tell him every single time he makes a video with these spy glasses I'm like bro that's so obvious but then like no one ever questions it. Yeah. No shit. And then the woman is basically like you need to leave right now.

She gets on the phone and she's like police officers. I'm being harassed. Like this man came in here. He's harassing me and just like blows up on me. I'm like, I'm not like harassing you. Like I'm just like my friend has some stuff like I have an inventory list. Can we like go through the inventory maybe? Like you know. Based on her comments. Can I guess her ethnicity and wait. Yeah. Oh, I hate that you were nailing this right now. What would you say? You can probably get the hair. What do you think? I'm guessing. White 5-4-240.

Oh, my God. I might be accurate. Dude, Nick, you are spawning. When you're talking about spy glasses, this is what I'm thinking of. It's like a kid with like blue goggles. Not too far off. Yeah. The shit I had is a kid.

They know it was pretty bad. Yeah. So funny. They looked very bad. I used to want that as a kid. Like those spy glasses? It was like when spy kids was coming out. Oh, yeah.

No. So funny. Not obvious at all. So you got the cops called on you. They call the police on us. They do this whole thing where they're like doing a back and forth. Like you have to talk to corporate. It's not our fault.

Corporate stole the Legos. But then the whole thing is every time we message corporate, they're like, oh, well, our franchises are independently owned. They make their own decisions. We can't control them. You have to talk to the franchise owner. Yes, sir. No, nailed it.

Nailed it. Nailed it. Yes. Oh man. Yeah, you call that to a T. So good at this. You're like so proud. You're like, oh, that's so good.

Look, that fucking. I know a fat white woman that works as a secretary bitching when I hear it. I do it. Wait, wait. What did you say your name is? I mean, Karen's too obvious. Yeah, yeah, it's way too obvious. If her name was Karen, that'd be so funny.

It would be really funny. Her name was Amanda, but. I don't know that is up. She looks like Amanda. Yeah, yeah. A man, duh. Anyways. Jesus.

They just keep saying it's the run around like, hey, talk to corporate. We talked to corporate. Oh, talk to the franchise owner. Talk to the franchise owner. Oh, go to corporate. And they just keep passing the blame back and forth to each other. Like, it's just the other person, you know. So eventually the cops come.

And then they're like, hey, your trespass from here. If you ever stood back up here again, you're getting arrested. You can't even be in the parking lot. This whole area is owned by the landlord. And this was all in the first day. Yeah, this is the first, like, five minutes of the video. And we're like, right when you get that one, like, every day one. Yeah, right.

He gets in the car. He's like, well, dang, we just drove like 16 hours. What we're going to do now? So I'm trespass from the store. Brian's trespassed. And we're like, how do we film a video of bricks and mini-phases? When you're, if we're trust-fussed. I think I asked him, like, so how are we supposed to get our stuff back if we're

trespassed from the store? And he's like, I don't know. Like, you just got to figure it out with them. I'm like, but how do we figure it out with them if we're trespassed? Like, we, you have now not allowed us to figure it out with them. with them. He's like, well, you just got to figure it out with them. I'm like, well, you, who do we talk to? Upon going into the store, like, maybe the manager there didn't like you. That's when it became

criminal law where she was like, hey, I don't want you here. The police can't come out. She can trespass you from there. She's the manager. She's part of that store. So that was, that was actually all within law. Yeah, it's all within law. But they're using the law to get away with stealing these Legos. What happens from there? Like, how do they approach it from there. It would have to be civilly from there. Criminally, yes, she's within her eyes to say you can't be in the store. Sure. Yeah.

You're trespass. But morally, that sucks because she still. Yeah, it sucks. But she, she, that's why we left. Yeah, we didn't. So basically, they're not violating the law, but the law sucks in this case. Yeah. Yes, absolutely.

Yeah. They're abusing the law. Which is, and that's why we're like, I'm glad Cody's hearing it. King's, King Pakes is over there. And it is for this. So that way we have, hey. like police officers that also want

Yeah They're there they're Former Former or whatever They're paying People and the people That know the law Well there's a white

And a black dudes They're paying But sister When he's like When he's black When he's Sorry Other way around

Since you guys are like Former police officers You're like The men in light blue Huh? Light blue I don't like fucking cops too you don't you don't buy that now

you know what I'm in blue you know what I mean and Brandon's on camera I'm in your frame now that was a joke I didn't this get sexual so fast cops have welcome to unsub well I think because cops have a first-hand seat like a front row seat to seeing like

the good side of policing and the stuff that nobody else ever sees and also the bad side of policing because you have fucking co-workers that you hate yeah yeah I I so I watched I watched all your videos. I watched all of them. But that point right there, I was like, oh, they're just trespassing them.

Maybe whatever. They're trespassing him. That's within law. But I did watch your other, like, the videos after that and was like, oh, these cops are, f***. So I just want to preface you with that. I'm not like, cops, yeah, blue line, yeah, blah, blah, blah. Cody arrest.

Yeah, dude. Cody, what are you doing? I'm about to bend this man over. Got him. Batman. He gets flung out by a plane. All right. So you get trespassed day one.

Yeah. And so we're like, what do we do from here? And basically that Amanda girl, she's just the manager of the store. She's not like the one who like stole the Lego. She's just kind of running the store. You know, she's just an employee of the store. So we're like, yeah, we can't really like get her like. She's not like the one who came with this evil plan.

She's just protecting them, I guess. Ben, real quick. This is still the franchise. Yes. Took your buddy's LEGOs. Yes. But the same franchise, but under different ownership now. Yes.

Yes. So the Brandon and Josh are the two co-owners that took over the store. Yeah. Okay. The franchise. But they're not part of corporate. They're just individual franchise owners. They were from corporate. Corporate instructed them to come down, which is weird. So it was a corporate takeover. And then corporate hired Brandon and Josh to be the new owners. Okay. So corporate took that franchise. Oh, okay. So Crystal, they took the franchise. Yeah. Crystal was the previous owner. But they're using the loophole of, oh, it's just a franchise. We can't control them. They're going to do whatever they want, even though corporate's the one that took it over.

So they're trying to use that as a way to deflect blame, even though they're the ones that are responsible for it. It's confusing. Just to cover all basis in that contract between them and corporate, is there anything that says, basically, if we have to do a takeover, all inventories reverted to corporate ownership or like. No. It just says, it says the property, all these Legos will, the property will remain the property of man. sales until sold. If anything's damaged or anything happens to any of the Legos, then they get a full refund for everything. So what's their case? That they didn't sign the contract. Corporate's like, that's between Crystal and him. That's not how that works. Not at all. Yeah. So somebody that's

why I said, if I buy the company while that company is under contract, just because I didn't sign that contract doesn't mean I'm not now liable for holding up that company. Unless you say it, Unless you say, then, you know, your verbal, like, communication is obviously above the contract. And of course, of course, that's the first thing we told them. And their response to what you said is, okay, sue us. We'll drag this out until it's worth well more than what the collection's worth. If you guys want to lose money, then you can sue us. And you guys will lose even more money.

The very first day, or you were talking to him and you're like, he was like, well, what do you have? And you're like, I have the contract. He's like, contract. Like, are you stupid? Are you dumb? Yeah. Like, what are you talking about? You have the contract.

He's like, are you an idiot? Like, that was his response to me saying that basically was, you're an idiot. You're stupid. I was, sorry, I was doing Nick things on my phone while you were telling that story. This company's projecting. They're not worth as much as they're trying to let everybody lead on. Really? They meet 95 million a year, no?

No, they can't. It's not possible. You're looking at the numbers of the overall franchises. We're talking about corporate. The numbers they're putting out are the numbers of all 300 stores gross revenue. but those stores are independently owned and operated. Right. Corporate.

And they only give 6% of corporate. Exactly. So the average Bricks and Finney Fix store on the high end makes $500,000 a year. So they got $500,000 times 0.06 times 300. What's that? About $9 million a year in revenue for corporate. Across everything. Across everything for the corporate level.

9 million a year in revenue is not. a $400 million company. They do not have as much money or ass behind them as they're trying to lead on. They're projecting hard as fuck. I didn't realize they took that little from the sales. That's insane. They're not nearly as big

as they're trying to lead on. That's what she said. Oh yeah. So we're like, how do we get in the lawsuit with that? And this is kind of where I'm like, okay, let's just do something like super out of pocket that no one's going to see coming. Probably not the best. If a lawyer, we had a lawyer, he would tell us definitely not to do this, but that's why we did it, I guess.

We just want to do something that I never see coming, you know? Lawyers would say for you to not do 99% of the things that you do do. Yeah, but this one, like, especially like a lawyer, every lawyer, like, reaction channel is like, oh, this is like the worst idea ever. So we're like, okay, so this is our logic. So bricks and mini figs is the one doing the illegal activity and we're the ones getting screwed over because of their illegal activity.

So we're like, what if we un or reverse it, you know? And now we're doing the illegal activity and it causes them to have their lives ruined, you know? and... Well, that's a move. Yeah, so we were like, okay, how do we do... What's the illegal activity you're conducting? We were like, well, a legal business move, you know what I mean? It's not like an illegal activity, but just an illegal business move that we can do,

which is that they would have to take us to court for, and then they up front all the legal fees. So we were like, let's steal their name. So we created a company. I love this so much. And we changed their tax... So it's like bricks and minifigs, like, buy-sell trade is their like... The buy-sell trade is their like tagline, you know? So we changed it to bricks and mini figs.

We steal from old people. And instead of buy-cell trade, it's steal-sell trade. Yeah, well, that was a different thing too, yeah. But we also changed that. But our tagline, it's like, we steal from old people. But then the way that we're going to get away with it is we steal from old people is actually the company name. And then bricks and mini-figs is just the tagline. And in America, there's no like law that says if the tagline has to be above or beneath the company name.

So it's bricks and mini-figs, we steal from old people. but we still from old people as the company. And bricks and mefix is just our tagline. And so when they take us to court, they can't win anything because they're like, oh, we actually didn't steal their name. Like we still from old people is not a copyrighted name. It was actually no one's claimed that business name yet.

So we're actually not stealing any name. I am in no man's land right now because I'm trying to genuinely figure out if you're retarded or a genius. No, no, listen to this. The answer is yes. This is actually hilarious, too. Quick like 15 second little spiel on this.

We were talking yesterday a day before and he's like, dude, you know how, hilarious this would be, what if I legally change my name to, to, uh, Ben is innocent. So whenever I'm in court, they'll continue to say, Ben is innocent. Uh, what do you have to say by this? I'm like, I run out. That would be so funny. Or, or he was like, or, uh, I can also legally change my name to Aiman McNeff.

So the, it would say Brickson minifigs versus Aiman McNeff. Amon McNeff is a CEO. Yeah, I was trying to think of like, uh, like, uh, so he was like, So he would have his name legally as Amy McNecknow. I'm sold. I'm now completely convinced that you two can remain retarded longer than this company can remain solvent. I'm sold.

Yeah, yeah. What were you saying? I also had this idea. After seeing the name change and the thing that he created as someone who's been a troll for the past decade, that's brilliant. I don't know if this is too far too. Earlier, we're eating else. You guys want to sell merch?

What if we had like Tony, our judge? Like his face, everyone were like, we love Tony, you know, like as our judge. But I don't know. Maybe that's going too far. I feel that's antagonizing them. What I'm not trying to antagonizing? That's banking for a mistrial. Yeah, they're going to think like, oh, they're trying to be sarcastic.

They're trying to be clever on us, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I get that. But Ben is innocent. It's like, like, Dan Duncan's virginity rocks, you know. It's like, like, he's like, honestly as sex at the time, you know, but he's like virginity rock. I don't know. I just like Ben is innocent.

Like we're going this level. Yeah, that's hilarious. Of trawling, which is wild. But it takes like a while to get your name change. So I don't think we have time for that. Oh, yeah. But the best part about this plan, though, was we were going to advertise our company by putting our company logo. We got a giant banner that says like bricks and mini figs, we steal from old people. Because it says bricks and mini figs like their tagline on their store.

So like, let's put our logo over their logo, you know? And like, no one will notice a difference. So it just be like, we steal from old people. And then we can just claim that. advertising our company. But then it turns out that's not a civil crime anymore. That actually turns as a criminal, I guess. So what we did is I made like five franchises underneath my company. And that way, if my franchises choose to put our company logo over their company logo, I can't control them because I'm just corporate. We steal from old people. And then the we still

from old people franchises are the ones doing all the illegal activities. So they can't get me in trouble if my franchise is trying to do everything. And then if the franchisees get caught, they can just say corporate told them to do it, you know? So the franchise can't get in trouble. either, so we'll just keep passing the blame onto each other. And none of us will ever get. So we can now just get away with like a bunch of illegal stuff and just keep passing the blame and we'll never get in trouble. And it's all legal too.

So like in the video. Because they were doing this too. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm going to say, I'm going to say who was up on the roof and like, you know, put the banner and all that. But one of our franchisee owners. So we can't tell who that was.

Yeah. It was one of the franchise owners for sure. Yeah. And they did that on their own will. So I can't get in trouble for that because they just decided to do that. I was on the bottom. I did not do that. I did not.

That definitely wasn't me, but it was one of the franchise owners though. Yeah, I don't know which one, but one of them did that. No one would have thought, like, again, a level of trolling or anything, fighting you would be terrible because it's, wait, he created a franchise. Huh? He created a new business, named it this, now has franchises under that. Oh, yeah. Uh-oh.

Which, like, there's two sides to every story. I have no idea. Like, I'm just like hearing a lot of this for the first time. But my God, if this is true. Like, all of this came from fucking over somebody who was in a bad spot. And just the level of unrelenting trolling that came out of that is brilliant. It cost them way more than, that's what's crazy to me. It's just that 115 to 200,000 number.

It would have been so much cheaper. Cut it fucking shot. Well, we told him that. We told the CEO that at the beginning, we were like, hey, like, you just want to give the Legos back. Like, that'd be the easy way, you know. And then I'm like, or we can go to the whole. hard way, which, like, I was like, that's, if you guys want to do the hard way, like, we can do that.

And he's like, that's extortion. I mean, yeah, if they already liquidated Lego, it's just cut a check, dude. Amon McNeff, he puts the, he puts the ego and Lego. So, I mean, that's, I think that was like the best comment. It's the, it's the Ammon McNeff. Yeah. He's a CEO. He's a CEO.

He's a, M-M-M-O-N-C-N-E-F, I think. Well, it's just like the Boondocks clip. Oh, I see, we're going to do this the hall way. He has a, the classic. villain evil mustache. Chris Hansom. I call you Chris Hansom. Yeah, that's kind of been like the whole theme of my channel.

I've been doing it since day one. It's basically we just be like, okay, what are the bad things these companies are doing? And how do we like do their own techniques against them, you know? And it's kind of just like giving them a taste of their own medicine. It's like the most satisfying thing ever, you know? It's fighting for the little guy, which that's why I reached out the day. I didn't see it getting that big because we started DMing the day it came out. I was like, oh, this is really interesting.

I bet this blows up and the next day it's like four million views it was like holy shit but yeah like I never really have to think of any like crazy legal loopholes usually the companies like the evil companies already know all the evil legal loopholes you know so I just take what they're doing but then just do it for good you know hey you right there hey what do you not like about jeans uh-huh today's sponsors the perfect gene wow they stretch Did you know Father's Day is around the corner? Tomorrow. Maybe your dad or father likes jeans because they will love the perfect gene.

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How many videos are there? Just two right now. Okay, got it. We have some little filler videos where we're like responding. They respond to us and respond to them. But there's like two like documentary, like Netflix worthy ones, I feel like they're like full like edits. You know, we just went ham on the edit. You guys crushed the edits.

Again, your style. I was complimenting you before. You tell stories so well. To catch a Lego predator. Yeah. The, I was. Chris Hanson. The first video.

And, you know, I was already, like, at the beginning, we were talking about it where it's like, okay, you were trespass. That's that's fucking criminal, whatever. And I kept watching. I was like, dude, there's so much civil stuff happening there. And there's, and like, you're doing loopholes and they're doing loop polls. Yeah, no, it makes sense why the police acted that way in the first video. What the fuck is going on? So I was super confused by the first video coming from like a, like a, I guess a cop standpoint, just like criminal law.

What's the point? But yeah. Once you got into the second video. and like the cops started acting a little. There was some odd stuff going on on that second one. Oh yeah, they got swatted. They got, Nick, here, but this is where it gets crazy. It wasn't even swatted.

You guys, there were a judge signed a fucking warrant for him to go into their. It was an Airbnb, right? No knock, right? Wait, wait, wait, they got a, they got a warm for that? Yeah. Oh. Yeah, you can't just enter our house with a warrant. It shouldn't have been a, shouldn't have been a no knock.

No, they knocked on the door. They knocked, they said, it was a knockout. Oh, okay, it was. Yeah. Yeah, no, they knocked. Like, American Fork Police, like, we're, I think they opened the door for us. They did. We didn't get to open, they opened it for us.

Like, American Fork Police, everyone outside, and then we walked outside and they pointed the guns at us. Yeah. But, uh... That's still a Fourth Amendment violation. Yeah, it was crazy. The way that they carried it out from what I saw in the video, personally, that's, that's Fourth Amendment all day.

So what, what, uh, what was the Fourth Amendment violation in the way they, uh, they executed the warrant? That was, uh, that, that came, that, that came 15 amendments later. Separate discussion. Connor's like still mad. Here's my question from the outside looking in. Did you get a copy of the affidavit for the search?

Yeah, they gave it to me. What were they looking for? Stolen Legos is all, the only thing they were looking for was stolen Legos. It said, it said, So you guys have painted the picture that someone else stole Legos and now they're executing a search warrant saying that you clearly.

Yeah. And the previous owner did tell me, in the, when I was on the phone with him, he's like, because he kept saying like, sue me, sue me, the whole video, he's like, please just sue me. Like, I'm begging for you to sue me. And finally I'm like, okay, you know what? I will sue you. And he's like, well, if you sue me, I'm going to tell everyone that you stole the Legos. Oh. And I'm like, he's like, you stole them. He's like, you're the thief. So that, that's entirely hinging on the word unreasonable. Unreasonable search and seizure.

100%. So I mentioned the Fourth Amendment violation. Uh-huh. At that point, you're being targeted. And this is why too. So whenever you, you guys got pulled over for, quote, unquote, running a stop sign, they go up to the door and immediately look in the back window and it's like, hey, what's up, Ben? How's Oregon? How's Utah? How's Utah? How's Utah?

I don't really know that type of stuff. We were kind of just going with the flow, you know, they're like, oh, the cops said we had heroin. We don't have heroin. We'll just tell them that. We'll be respectful. Like, we weren't like, like, I always been taught, like, if you're respectful at cops, they'll be respectful back, you know?

So we were just like, oh, we'll show them respect, you know? And then we were not getting respect back at all. But, uh, they, that was a fucked up traffic stop. I, I remember seeing that one. Like, even if they thought you were antagonizing, like, someone in their community, that was a fucked up traffic stop. Yeah. Especially talking to your boy, what Tyler, that was name?

And they're like, we think your eyes are this or this. That was a little, that was. And like, we weren't like trying to be dicks. Like, oh, I don't consent to search. Like, we were like, yeah, we can do all your drug tests and stuff. Like, we were trying to cooperate with them, you know. And we were. Tyler says you can test me right now for anything.

They did. Yeah, they breathalized us. It showed up at 0.0.0. and every like they did all the we did all the tests like yeah yeah we weren't trying to be smart with them or two hours yeah yeah that was that was unreasonable search and seizure they were they were looking for atoms at that point yeah here's here's another question and I kind of saw this like in some of the commentary on some of the content are you guys suing the police department probably I do feel a little bad because it's like so the the if I sue the police department

it doesn't come out of the police department's budget it comes out of the taxpayer like the innocent taxpayers. So it's like, why am I entitled to these innocent taxpayers money? You know, it's like stupid. Do you know that I would just before? But it teaches the police a lesson.

So it's like, I don't know. I haven't really thought about it yet. That's just like the pros and cons. So the pros is it teaches the police a lesson. Maybe they won't do this going forward because there's been lots of stories coming out since this of people be like, oh, the American Fork Police has harassed me.

They've like ruined my life and stuff. So if it teaches them a lesson, that's good. But if it like steals a bunch of money from like the innocent taxpayers that's bad so it's like what it's it's automatically i just i just want to put this out there i have not said the name of this police department i am not affiliated with this case i'm on the outside looking in i just offering some advice um but as far as like so police departments are a lot of agencies accredited agencies are insured to a certain extent specifically for uh cases like civil cases like a lawsuit against them and uh i may or may or

not have been a part of a case during the Floyd riots. And it's, it's, it's already allocated. It's already spoken for. But I think that based on what I saw, you got, you have ground to sit on. So what you're saying is there's, there should be money already available for situations. I'm not going to say that there should be, but there could be. But awesome, again, you are going to want, even my heart by saying, hey, I don't want the taxpayers, the people to suffer because yes I want a lesson to be learned but so maybe maybe we do something where we like use all the money from the lawsuit to like help the community in somewhat you know what I mean so it's like yeah yeah it still teaches them a lesson but then the taxpayers it's never it's never bad to

give back to the community and I've that's something that I've I've always had kind of had the mindset of because I've benefited from people giving back to a certain community so it's like there's you've got nothing to lose from doing that but at the same time you want to make sure Like what you're doing. Like, and I've seen the videos. Like I said, you're, you're doing the research to an extent. There's still things that are kind of a gray area. But as far as giving back, I think that's the best case scenario.

Yeah, we sue American Fork police and then we use it to help the, like the, so it's like, oh, like, it comes out of the taxpayers' money, but it's going back to the taxpayers, you know? I don't know. It would be funny to, like, sue the police department and then, like, usually for some epic son on Brexit. That sounds like the best place. Yeah.

And then we're like, oh, the police department funded this epic final stunt against Bricks and Mityfix. It can be funny. Well, even when we talked for the first time, you're so respected, you're like, man, I'm really pro-police. So that was the most shocking thing. Yeah, because I've always, like, every interaction I've had with the police before, like, this video. I guess, like, a few other videos maybe, like, we've had some, like, weird interactions. But, like, my whole life, I've had a lot of interactions with the police and it's always been, like, really positive, you know. And I've never had a bad interaction with police besides, like, the last, like, few years of making videos.

but yes, it's really shocked, because I've always heard of like, oh, police corruption, like police are dicks and stuff. And I'm afraid of like, ah, you know. But now I've finally like seen an example of that, which is crazy. I'd say out of like probably in my life, I don't know, let's say 20 interactions with police, like maybe two. Yeah. Or like bad or unwarranted.

But yeah, I'll say like 95% of my interactions with the police are always positive. What are your interactions with police like? Cody. I think it's probably because, you know, like this. You know what I mean? Boy. Can we bring in? Well, I.

If we want to do the paint swatch here, like, kind of privilege and it does exist. Yeah. No, I definitely have one. Why did you laugh at that? I had a poor interaction with police one time. One time. Wait, Brandon? I was going to say, no, we've had multiple bad interactions.

I'm just saying, like, on a ratio wise. Oh, no. No, it's like, we hardly ever have bad interactions with police. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I've had a couple. Like, I've had a couple in my life. But usually it's fairly, like, it's like, it's really. But we looked it up in all the police officers are Mormon,

CEO, Mormon, the two business owners Mormon. And when... And Amon Magnus, Evan Hayford. All three of them are Mormon as well. In the unredacted body cam footage, so they redacted this from us getting it, but they accidentally leaked this footage. And every single time they call the cops, they're always like, hello, I'm Josh with the Harper Ward.

I'm on the board of the Mormon community, like committee, you know, And he always, the first thing he just is constantly talking about how high up of a Mormon he is, you know. A little nepotism just sliding it in there. Yeah. Like, like, I'm, like, I couldn't make it to this high of a rank if I was untrustworthy. So you might as well take my word for it. So I don't think it's Mormon corruption, but I think they see him as a Mormon, like, high up. Good old boys.

Yeah. And they're like, well, if someone's this high up on the board, like, they wouldn't put someone on the board of Mormonism if he was a liar, you know. Also, when I was living, I lived in a cult for like three weeks. Wait, what cult? It's called the 12 tribes. Is that the West Coast 12 tribes? It's all over the world, actually. They have them in Australia.

They have them like, it's originally from Tennessee is where I originated in. So they take the Bible. They believe in the same Bible Christians believe in, but they take it in such a literal, weird way. Like they think that like they have to get 144,000 virgins to like all commit. Okay. So hear me out. When you point out the number 144,000, it sounds to me. like Mormons?

Maybe, I don't know, but that's what they believe. It's 140,000 virgins. That's a very specific number. Because it brings back the second coming of Jesus, and then the world gets saved. And they believe that like, they told me straight up there like, Joseph Smith. Like they straight up told me black people the day that. The descendants of Kane. Yeah.

This is Mormon. But no, 12 tribes is worse. They straight up told me they said, okay. They said. I'm not to drop some lore on y'all. Sorry. They said that America was great until Abraham Lincoln Free the Slaves

and once black people came into America, that's when America started going downhill because of black sin. Wait, this just sounds, I thought this was... This sounds like Mormonism. I thought this was Mormonism. So I might have talked to you a bit about Mormonism and not being...

This is really... Because even Adam and Eve came from like Indiana. Like the Garden of Eden is Indiana. In the continental United States. So there's a benefit to being what they call white and delightsome. I read this on the internet. The 12th, what is it? But also, the 12 tribes. Wait, what does that mean? White and Delightsome? And I look up, uh, executive order 44 from Missouri. I say Missouri. I say Missouri because that's what Missouri say. I'm not a

Missouri and. But one of my closest friends, say it like that. Uh, well, Sarn major Nick was a Missouri. Um, but executive order 44. So in the battle of crooked, uh, crooked river or bent, crooked river, I think it was. Order 44. Yes. Um, there, there's, I'm not going to go into it, but a lot of the issues between... We're at. Battle Order 44? No, no, no. It's the Battle of Crooked River.

Oh, Creak... Yeah. But there's a lot of the Joseph Smith believing Mormons that fall in line with that, and that 144,000 is a very specific number. Scirmish between Mormon, Latter-day Saints Forces, and Missouri State Militia during the 1838 Mormon War. That's why I said watch Prime Evil. Mormon community was not happy that series came out because that shows a lot.

That is a depressing. Also depressing a show, great, fantastic, but it shows what they did and how they took Utah to the degree that they did. It's insane. Someone told me yesterday it might have been you. They like killed like a lot of people. Dude, they would, they were fighting the U.S. military. It's been a common theme. dating back to the Battle of Crooked River,

I can't speak with expertise on it, but during my time in Utah, out at Camp Williams, shout out to Camp Williams. I learned a lot when I was out there, and it just, dude, the fact that you, how long did you spend in this cult? Three weeks.

How? I don't know, I was just like, hey, let's just go until we hit her spy glasses, you know? Yeah. And they just kept telling us, like, I was like, okay, this is what my thinking was. It was like, okay, each day kept getting crazier than the previous day. And they would tell us like more and more stuff.

So I was like, okay, we'll just keep going until, oh, Dave's the guy. Oh, he's actually went into the cult. Wait, Dave? Yeah, you want to put them on? Wait, wait, wait. So you were the 12 tribes too. Yeah, dude, well, actually, this is how I got into working with Ben. I took my ex-girlfriend to a restaurant on a date and it ended up being a cult.

And like, me and Ben, we're friends, but we weren't as close as we are now. But I was like, after, I'm like, dude, Ben infiltrate Scientology. I should give Ben a video idea. And so I called Ben and I'm like, hey, dude, I have a cult for you to infiltrate. And he goes, we're doing it together. I changed my whole life, my whole career. I learned so much from Ben. And Ben's the freaking goat, dude.

Hey, W. Ben. I just love him. trust in Ben. Like, people are freaking out with what's happening with the mystery company right now. Oh, you can say it now. We're good.

Well, this is getting released after the TRO, but... Okay, with bricks and many things, like people are freaking out. It's like they don't know Ben like I do. He always wins. It might look bad right now, but he always figures it out. That's just like Ben for you.

He's smarter than you. He's always one step ahead of you. It's like unbelievable. working with Ben. He literally figures all of it out. No, I, I know it's crazy. I love Ben so much. And that's why I try to FaceTime because I just wanted to catch up with you guys

because I miss you. Oh, let me see what this guy looks like. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to see his face. Oh, dude. This guy's in a He's an attractive, dude. He's got searched for sure. Surf, bro. Surf, dude. You guys look like

you all hang out. I will say that. Like, I would get like military doing like, uh. And then you three, though, perfect. That's so funny. You know what's really funny. I told Danny this the other day. We were at an event.

Oh, this shirt leaves a birthday. And this guy comes up to me, and he's my shirt. It's like bricks and mini figs. He's like, oh, I've been seeing that around. Doesn't a guy, he's making the video on it, Danny Burke, right? Dude, so yesterday we went to brunch and we saw bricks and mini figs. And I was like, let's go. There's one right across the street.

Let me call you after. I can't go. All right. All right, see Danny. All right. Ducey, dude. Love you, bro.

Yeah, basically we just, we're in there. I just was telling Danny, I was like, whatever, like, it gets like not as exciting

as the previous day. Like, once it starts going downhill and excitement, then we'll escape, you know? And then they end up catching our spy glasses

after three weeks, but yeah. And then it was really weird. And then we took over the restaurant. Oh, we legally owned their store now. We've got a loophole in their LLC to make ourselves legally owners

and we overthrew them Oh yeah that was funny Can you just go get the Legos at that point? Oh no no this was the That was the yellow deli They were a different cold They have a restaurant called the Yellow Deli And we leave a good

Is it just like it's amazing It's so good They like farm it themselves It's like it's like You can taste the children's tears From the child slave labor that made it Slave labor is a thing It tastes so good though

Dude, this is This is Hereditor or not hereditary What's the other movie he made? Midsomer. It's just like midsummer Yeah This is the one

The wiki picture of it I'm like oh it is Yeah they'll stand a circle And they go like Ah yeah yeah And they like Hold hands they chant And like

Can't relate Can't relate Can't relate It no it's just like midsummer Yeah Ugh I hate chords Oh don't get me started

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That's just how our brains work like like oh if I hear it that much like it just gets rewired and you know you're like you're really rewiring your brain So they do crazy things like in Scientology for example I had to repeat this fake story over and over there's like a 30 second story they repeated over for nine hours with no breaks And he would change one small aspect of the story and tell him to say it again with that small aspect changed. And so I start with the true story and it turns into a full story. You never noticed with the change. You know, I kind of like to describe it. It's like the Instagram stories where they wear a shirt, you know, they start talking or like an Instagram video.

And they're like, I bet you didn't notice, but my shirt changed color. And it's just slowly changing colors without the whole Instagram real. And so you never actually notice the change because it changes so slowly, you know. And then if you rewatch it again, you're like, oh, well, that's a completely different shirt now that I like see it. you know, so I think it's your brain feels that I don't think a lot of people realize how much information your brain will just automatically fill in. It's no difference than eyes shifting in how you focus on one single part. It fucks up the human face.

You know what I'm talking about? We try to, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me if this is true for you, though. I think that you don't get sucked into that world because you stay top of mind and you're cognizant of the tricks and the things that they do so that you don't let that infiltrate. Yeah, but it still happens so even to me. It still happens to me too. Like when I lived in the cult, I remember thinking, and this is kind of like why I brought

the cult up in the first place was, I was like, I started to kind of believe their missions too. Like, I'm here on this farm. Like my mission is to like get these 144,000 virgins, you know? He did not believe that. Wait, hold on, it's not 144,000 virgins because you're marrying the two between Islam and Mormonism. That's what they called it.

144,000 virgins? That's what they said, yeah. 144,000 virgins to bring the same? second coming of Jesus Christ. I'm sorry. 12 tribes. 12 tribes. All right.

We're, that's crazy. But, uh, but, but yeah. No, it's starting to believe like, dude, like, like, I mean, not for a real, but like, I really started to feel like, wow, like my life purpose. I got to like, like, be on this farm and I got a, uh, I remember because we did the whole thing where like Lydia was like my, is it 12. Is it 12 tribes of Israel? Uh, is, it's called the 12 tribes.

And one thing too. The book of revel. So this is 144,000 virgins or, uh, originally. originates from the Bible's book of Revelation. Yeah, chapters 4 and 14. They take a very weird... Ruben... It's a very, very strange interpretation of the Bible.

They take that, quote, literally, and they're like, we need to get 144,000 virgins, commit to that and bring back the second coming of Jesus. That sounds like, what is it, Heaven's Gate, that was Hail Bob in the 90s? Do you remember that? Hell Bobcom. Yeah, Haley Bobcombe.

So I will just, to piggyback off what you're saying, there is it is the part of the jehovah's witness with the 12 tribes but it is 144,000 individuals 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel. So from the book of Revelation. Yep. Who are sealed by God. They are described as men who have not been defiled themselves with women. So exactly what you're talking.

Yep. So that's, yeah, I mean, he's like, there's a difference. I'm sorry. I did not anticipate it going. this direction. You have obviously caught me off guard. And I am amazed. I cannot wait to see what content is afoot. What content comes about. We have 12 videos that are, I think, equally as crazy as the Lego video, I think. It's insane. Yeah. No, I agree with you, dude. I don't know about equally. There's some that's really, really, really crazy. Like, insane. Like, there's one

that makes Epstein look like like a children's book. Oh my gosh. Like this is the video that you're working on with that is insane. Like we have some, there's two, one person on the inside that's like, um, been a, an assistant for a decade to the person that's part of a, uh, sex cult. Oh, wow. Jesus. So she's giving a lot of insider information on things.

She's got, she's got, she's got, the world's biggest. Yeah, evidence. Like three billion like. Evidence of things. Like it's insane. It's a lot. A bunch of like nine year olds. It's really sad.

That's the stuff. Whatever we can help, especially when you move into that and however we can help. And I told you guys our other buddy that does that for a fucking, he's well connected and can help with that. And he will help you guys tremendously. So I'll link you guys up because. No, seriously,

we should like jump on a call with him too. He knows. He's, yeah, he's done a lot of the cool guys. Like he's well. connected, but he, that's the fight he fights. It's what he does now. That's awesome.

At this point now, we're like, well, we've attempted to have our good faith conversation. We did what the court told us to do. They did not want to have that conversation with us. We will now sue them. And to sue them, they sent us a link. They said, you have to serve these court papers to Josh in person. It has to be someone over the age of 18, someone that's not affiliated with the case, and someone that's not an attorney for the case.

And we're like, okay. So I just found someone from Instagram, met up with them. I'm like, hey, you want to help me to serve papers? Like, sure. And we met up. And we went to Josh's house to serve him the papers. And we like put, like, obviously Josh was never going to like open the door for anyone. Like he wouldn't even open the door for the Mormon kid like the previous day.

So we're like to come up with some type of way to get him outside his house. So we put a sign that says like I stole a family's life savings or something. Like I stole a dime's life savings. And it was a picture of him like, oh, evil like holding money, you know, with like the family crying in the background. And but we put it on a piece of public land. not owned by the HOA, so it's free for anyone to use. And we looked it up, we found this patch of, it's like a two-foot patch of land.

It's like, because all the grass is like super like nice to like moat. And this is just like a bunch of like garbage and like gravel and stuff. It's just like not maintained at all by the HOA. So it's just public. So we have a First Amendment right. We were allowed to put our sign there. And the thinking was when he walks outside, he takes on the sign, boom, you've been served. Let's go to court and we get the money back, you know?

And but pretty much within like two minutes of us being there, the cops show. up and they're like, well first actually they were really cool. They were like, hey, we're here serving papers and like, as a United States citizen, you have the right to do that. And we said, we're not going on his property. We're waiting until he comes into the street. Once he comes to the street, then we will serve him papers. We will never enter his property. And the police say, as long as that's your plan, you're fine to do that. Just don't go on his property and you're fine. And the sign is in a public area. You guys have a First Amendment right. You guys can do that. And we said, sweet. So the cop left. And 10 minutes later, another cop comes.

And same thing happens. Oh, okay, you guys are good. I guess it's a false reason. Let's leave. Ten minutes later, a third cops comes. And this time he's like, well, it's kind of wasting police resources this time. Let me tell him to stop calling. Well, he said, well, he actually came with a sleuth.

He said, I will serve the papers for you. So the police officer is easy to serve the papers. And the police officer walks up to him and then comes back like 15 minutes later and he's like, he doesn't want your papers. And we're like, what? Like all you had to do is just say you've been served and drop that. Like that's literally all you have to do. Like you can,

if you doesn't even have to accept them, you just say you've been served, but you have to say you've been served. If you don't say that doesn't count. But anyways, so he's like, okay, like all this stuff, like they're like,

well, we technically can't arrest you because you're on public, public street, you're not doing anything illegal. So they leave. Boom, cops come back again like 20 minutes later. And they're like,

let's see these papers. Like, we just have to verify this is real. Otherwise this could be stalking. You know, if you guys are, because I think they thought, which I guess I can see their point of view. Like if the papers, if these were fake papers and we're just stalking him, then maybe this is messed up of what we're doing, you know. So they're like, we just have to verify these papers really quick. And we're like, okay, fair enough.

So they call the court. The court says, yep, these are real papers. And he's like, so these papers still have to be served. And they're like, yes, we still have, these, they have not been served yet. We need to serve these. So like, okay. And then they come and arrest me. and they talked for five minutes

they muted their yeah they talked for five minutes and then they arrested you after that for whatever reason that's what they muted when you got the FOIA and they made a and they made a the chief of police made a public

like did a press release after the fact and in the press release they said well we had to arrest Ben because the papers have heard we did because in my video I said that that the papers were already like that it was real

So we verified that in the video. So the chief of police makes a press statement saying, we verified that it was real court papers, but they've already been served, and they're just recreating this to harass the victim, and that's why we had to arrest him. But in the body cam footage, which I think was redacted that got released in the unredactions

when they accidentally released their stuff, you can see him say, like, these stuff to be served, and he says, yes. And so the chief of police was just lying in order to arrest me. And it's verifiable. Like, you can verify it online with all the footage that these papers still had to be served, they're lying just to come up with some excuse to arrest me. And then one of the people that showed up, they tried seizing his phone.

So he locks his phone before giving it to the police officers because his wallet was like up or so. I guess like Apple Pay was up or something. So he just locks his phone and give it as a police officer. And they arrest him for obstruction of evidence for locking his phone. They're like, you're destroying evidence by locking your phone. That was f***ing up. That one, that one, it was a sergeant, wasn't it? It was a little bit overzealous, like grab the fucking phone from him.

Yeah. Yeah, and they arrest them for obstruction of evidence, and then they take the sign and we're like, what the heck? And then literally an hour later, we get swat-like, I'm calling the police to try and bail that guy out, his name's Sheldon. And, like, literally, like, right when I hang up the phone with the police station, we get swatted. And I'm like, what the heck is happening now? Like, this is insane. And we find out later it's because they had a search warrant for stolen Legos on us. and every single person gets arrested

and there were just some people there that were like just I just posted on Instagram so I'm like hey anyone will help it with this video and they didn't even know what was going on they just showed up as fans and they were being a little bit extra for where?

For our Airbnb okay yeah and they're being a bit extra on you whenever they got your hand behind your back because like they were saying like he was like making rigid movements but if you play it in slow motion he's just standing there

and they're like get your ambulance so what happened is in the unredacted footage you can see it. So I'm filming on my phone. And I'm filming just to get audio, not like visual. So I'm just holding my phone like by my side. But the police officer takes my phone. And once he sees I'm filming, then that's when he does. So I think he was like punishing me for filming. And I just

had a ski accident like three days before this, like really been on a shoulder dislocated. Oh shit. And it like really hurt. Like my shoulder kind of like popped out and popped back in for a second. And he did all of that to me just because I guess I was filming, which is my legal right. You know, like I'm allowed to film them. And I wasn't being like, oh, I'm filming me like being a dick about it. I was just like, my phone was just like on my side just recording audio just in case they did something messed up, you know? It is like I will verify that. It is down by your side. And King picture, I've seen it too. It's here on the side recording. Yeah, I'm not like being in their face like those First Amendment auditors like

you know, like they're like dicks about it when they do it. But any change the story is of oh well I felt you flexing. He wasn't even touching you at that point. So he had a lie going into this. It's like, oh, I grabbed his arm because I felt him tighten up. That was a Press release, yeah, he's like, he, like, he felt the flex, but he goes like, oh, and like, does it right, like, right? So it's like, how could he feel me flex if he hasn't even touched me yet, you know, like also? Even if I did flex, you scare the shit out of me.

I feel like that's a normal reaction. Yeah. Yeah. It's because he saw your muscles just rippling. As a cop, I don't think you're allowed to do two for flinching. Like, as a, yeah. Like, the fuck are we talking about? It's great, like, even some of my fans got arrested, and they just showed up as, is, like,

I didn't even know what I was filming yet. I was just like, hey, I'm filming a video and you tell anyone I want to show up and some people just show up to the Airbnb. They didn't even know it was going on and they got arrested and they're like, what's even happened? You know, and I felt really bad, like so bad for them. One of the fans, he's not Mormon, but he's married to a Mormon and she was like, didn't talk to him for like three days because the family and like his like wife's like family

was like, we know you're a criminal, like you got arrested and stuff and like the wife wouldn't talk to it. Like she moved out of the house back in with her family. And all because he just wanted to like hang out with this YouTuber who we thought was cool. You know, he didn't even do anything. And it's crazy. Utah's crazy. It's insane.

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if there's a suspicious vehicle and they say, from that first call, and they say, we're here to serve paperwork. You make a note, you make a, it's a CAD note, it's hey, they're here for this, you know, ABC, XYZ, that's that. The second time, the third time, the fourth time, the fifth time that gets called in,

you refer to that first CAD note, they're there to serve such and such. We are not stepping into a civil matter. We are not involving ourselves in a civil matter. If they're here with a process server, with processes to be served, at that point, you're left alone. And then once they confirm, because you got arrested after they confirmed, it was a real actual case. Not only that, but it was a real case that had yet to be served. And they confirmed it over the radio because they have them on the call.

So also with that, what jurisdiction does a law enforcement officer have over a civil case? I'm going to answer that question for you. None. None. So once you determine it's a civil case, they're here to serve civil paperwork. That's why I told that to them and the police's response to me was that, we'll then handle it civilly then. That's what you were doing. Like this is the civil method. You were there.

You were present and not violating the trespass order. They're like, no, no, no, no. With a process server at that point, you're protected, dude. I said this is the civil method. They said, okay, well, then just take him to court. This is how I take him to court. Like, I have to serve him or else I can't take it. They're like, okay, well, then just do it civilly.

The way is the civil method. Like, what did they arrest you for that day? Stalking and residential picketing. This is after the fifth one and you haven't moved your position at all, right? We were in that, we did not move. We did not get out of the car. We did not do anything. So I don't want you to incriminate yourself.

But with stalking, there's a certain, there's a certain legal standard. It's the, it has to be more than one. occurrence. Had you reached out at all at that point if you don't mind answering? Yes. I tried to have a good faith conversation with him, which was required by the court. Good faith is required. So for your good faith, was it a phone call or text message? I tried calling him. He didn't answer. So I was going to go to his house and that's when the police pulled us over before we got to his house and I said, hey, are you been? So I didn't even make it to his house yet. There's two attempts at good faith. Had there been any, I know the answer to this, had there been any threats? We showed,

We showed a Mormon, a video of him saying he swears the God. It was one of the elders from the church, which that guy's tie was too long. It was way past his point. Really? Yes. His tie was too. I watched that. I was like, this dude, what does this dude doing? He's an elder in the church and his tie is too long?

Like, I don't trust that guy. So outside of that. So you made a phone call or you attempted to go to the reg. Yeah. Oh, and we did the thing with the rubber ducks. So we sent Tyler to his house to do the UPS thing. It said he had to do like the chicken dance and stuff. It was going to be like a thing for part three or part four,

but then the American Fork like basically spoiled everything for us. So what was, so for the... It was basically the same joke. Like, I just personally, I don't, I don't see where stalking comes into play at that point. Well, so they said it was because he was more than one attempt. he was in fear for his life. However, what the Utah stocking code states is that it would cause a reasonable person to be in fear for their life, like to be scared. So secondly, he would be right then.

Which means if you haven't made threats, a reasonable person is not going to feel threatened. Again, you have him saying, hey, if you do these things, I will then give back said Legos. And then he turned it into, well, you, no, I didn't steal them. You stole them. Yeah. I told the police officers that I was like, hey, if any, if any reasonable person should, be scared. I should be scared, you know? Like, I just got a two, three-hour search in my car yesterday for heroin. He said, I stole the Legos. Did you consent to that search? What? Did you consent to

that search? Did you at any point say? We said, no, we do not consent to a search. They said, it doesn't matter. It's already been caught. The dog. Already been caught. Because the dog, yeah. The dog hit on your car. But what did the dog do? But what did the dog do? I don't know. They walked around five times and then. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So this is where you asked, like this. I saw a lawyer say, why did the dog? I saw the dog. walk around five times the first time it walks around if it doesn't see anything I should be done but they're not it's not sighted smell but if did they say that the dog did they use that specific phrase the dog hit on your car probably yeah what do you

mean probably I need it definitively I don't remember word for word but they said the dog has found something in your car because he said so you have heroin they told me the dog does not lie the dog does not lie we're here for heroin and what did they find nothing because we didn't have anything the guy's never had a drop of alcohol in his life He's never even done weed or alcohol or anything. They were like, you can drug test us, you can do whatever. I'm going to leave it at this. We're going to paint a small picture.

We're going to appreciate it from a distance. If they say that the dog hit on your car, the dog found something. And they said the dog is not lied. And then how long, what was the amount of time they took to search your car? Like three hours, right? Was it two or three? I think the whole interaction from start to finish was like three hours. It doesn't take three hours of search.

It was maybe two out. I don't know. So they used the verbiage. They wouldn't let us see our phone. So they wouldn't let us have our phone on us. Wait, they took your phones because the dog in the car. So I tried to, I tried, so this is what happened. I tried, I pulled out my phone from my pocket.

I didn't know about, dude. Yeah, I didn't know about this either. I didn't know about this either. I pulled up my phone. They said, hey, don't pull your, don't pull out your phone. I said, hey, I just want to film. He's like, hey, we have body cams going. We're wolf and everything.

You have, wait, wait, wait, and then it turns out the body cam footage was turned, the audio was turned off. So he wasn't even recording. Were you detained when they told you not to pull out your phone? I don't know. They didn't arrest you. You have a right to film. Did they say you were detained or were you placed?

Probably, yeah. You do not have a right of privacy. Were you detained? Were you pat down and placed in handcuffs? No. We were not in handcuffs, but we had not been pat down yet. What? They patted you down afterwards.

Yeah. So, okay, there. So no cuffs patted down after the search? So, so. So hear me out. Even after the search, I was not allowed to pull up my phone. And was this, was this a traffic stop? No.

It was not a traffic stop. Why did they stop you on this one? How did they stop you? I think it was because they were just suspicious. We were just in his neighborhood and they just knew the car. So here's what needs to happen. Like, this is a thing where like,

they got called for heroin. Hear me out. Hear me out. They searched. You and I need to talk after the cameras are done recording. Okay. You, there are certain things.

There's, I don't know if you're familiar with your Fourth Amendment. You're, you're, regarding certain seizure. They were going to arrest me if I put out of my phone, you know. For what? For point of my phone.

Is it illegal to pull out your phone? But it's illegal. for me to disobey the police officer if he gives me an order. Is it? If the police officer tells you that you don't have the First Amendment, is that legal? But you guys are your question. They're doing that right now. I have a TRO on me. There's a lot of stuff that he's been. All right. So if I go out, if I go out and talk about bricks and mini-fix? We need to have a discussion off camera about, yeah. If I go out and talk about bricks and

mini- if I post a video about bricks and mini figs right now, I'm like, hey, they stole from an old person. I'm breaking my TRO. I think I have my first amendment right to do that. I'm still going to get arrested, you know? Is this is this a pepper box, exclusive? No, this is going with the YouTube big, big book. But it's waited until all this. That's why we're I just wanted all the loops closed because of the second court stuff. I thought doing the

go fund me was my first amendment right. I got arrested for making the go fund me. I thought that was the first amendment right. Yeah, so I'm saying. When you get arrested, so here's, I would challenge you this. When you get arrested ask for the paperwork. It is your right to have the exact code section, the exact law that you've been arrested

for and everything that asked for the paperwork FOIA, the police report, get all of the documentation. Oh, we have everything, yeah. Yes, get all the documentation you can because you, dude, I'm not going to say that I'm entitled to part of your settlement. But he's already got the paperwork. Yeah, no, no. Gosh, man. Okay.

From your standpoint, even I like pro-military, pro-police, I am very big. I love America. Like, that's in my country. I think government, I am a problem with that. Part of being pro police is getting rid of the bad ones, right? And that's what I was going to talk about is even from your line. It's, I think there is a majority, a mass majority are amazing individuals. Agreed.

It is the bad ones and why they, good ones hate it because it's like, you motherfuckers. Now you have thrown us all under the bus. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like there's a lot that, so your approach, not necessarily, and I'm not saying it's a slander. you, but not knowing your rights and not knowing, like, for me, when I was younger, before I went into law enforcement, not knowing the law, not knowing the standard, not knowing, hey, if a cop tells me to do something, I have to do it.

At the same time, I'm a constitutional absolutist. So having that in mind, it sounds like there's a lot of things that you and I need to discuss because there's a lot of things that they've said and done. I don't want to say definitively that they're violating your Fourth Amendment, but allegedly, based on what we've discussed, it sounds like a Fourth Amendment violation. It sounds like that. That was the crazy part earlier.

You were showing me some of the, it wasn't a swatting, to be fair. Like, it's not a swat. Yeah, sorry. It's like just an actual raid, but like it seemed very aggressive. And they heard it. So the Airbnb host somehow said, we heard you. That's what it says in the report, yeah, is that the Airbnb host is the one that snitched on us.

They live above you? Yeah. And then they're like, oh, they stole Legos. But that seems so weird. Why would they? No, trust me. Care about that. I don't know.

That's what it says in the report. Like, oh, they're going to steal some Lego. Because this wasn't even out. You didn't post any videos at this point. So they lived upstairs? Yeah. Were you guys out on the patio ripping sticks and beers and talking about Legos? We weren't drinking or anything

We had like six people over And we were like, okay, what's this? We were probably talking about stolen Legos, yeah That's what they probably overheard was like talking about stolen Lego and they're like They're scheming calling and getting a warrant wild Anywhere in the country if you called in like hey there's some stolen Legos here potentially You're not showing up with 12 cruisers in AR-15 Call Judge Dread

That's not happening That's not why someone could build you can't build a warrant off it that. No. I guess it in this case. You can't take that to a fucking judge. I thought like that sounds like a knock and talk at best. At best.

Like, Hey, you guys good? Cool. Bye. Yeah. Yeah. Back in service.

But to have a war, is that crazy though? From your side, like having a warrant built off of that. The only thing that they were talking about Legos, but what's on the, I would love to see the warrant. Do you guys have a copy of it?

Yeah. It's public online. I think I think people found it. But, Where would you find it? You could probably just Google it. I got a copy, a physical copy. I put it in the video too.

It's like in the video. But it says like we are looking for any stolen merchandise, specifically Lego merchandise, is I think the exact wording. This whole thing is, it's wild. That's what's crazy. I told you, I had no clue until you sent me the videos.

And just going through it, just the one thing that stood out to me was when you were waiting to serve processes and I mean, how many interactions was it? That was like four or five? Yeah, yeah. Like four times. And you got arrested on the last one.

That's what's like. It was a lot of the first day too. Well, so then they finally arrested me the second day. So when they couldn't find any Legos in our house, I'm at the police station. They're interrogating me. And finally, they said, I'm getting arrested for the creation of the go fund me. What? Oh, yeah, they switched it.

Yeah. Yeah, but what's the charge? The creation of the go fund me. Yeah, no, but I'm saying, like, what's the charge? Oh, stalking. He said for blasting this person all over the internet, it's cyberstalking. I've got to look at the state code for stalking because I know it takes a lot to get stocking. We made the GoFundMe picture.

I stole a dying man's life savings, you know, that was the picture that we made for the GoFundMe. That picture of him, did he share that photo online? Was that photo from the internet? Or was that like a private family photo? Oh, I took his business photo and I added like him holding money in it. He's already shared it. Yeah. He's already shared it.

But because I said that he stole a dying man's life savings, that's what I got arrested for. That'll still be like a civil thing. But if nothing else, that's defamation at best. Well, they got me for cyber stalking because I'm black. They said, because you're blasting this guy's face over the other. Yeah, but they have to prove that you're seeking him out. Uh-huh. And stalking is, there's a high threshold to prove that you are actually seeking someone out

and putting them in danger or making them to feel that they're in danger. Especially since. it seems like libel. Yeah. I mean, ultimately that's also civil. Oh, dang, it's gone.

Holy shit. Yeah, I just read the warrant. It is literally just Legos. Yeah. That's all they were looking for was. Yeah. That's all they were looking for. That's it.

Yeah. Holy shit. Sounds like we need to talk to someone from America fork police department. Do you got it? Read a little bit of it. I'm trying to find it again. It just closed out really quick.

God damn it, Yula. I'm going to get a phone call about this. Okay, right here. So you have the affidates. If we can go back. So we have in fourth district court, all departments in and for Utah County, state of Utah. Affidate for a search warrant. State of Utah.

So, Ben, here's what you do. You get every physical copy of every affidavit, every warrant that you can. And you go into your notes on your phone and you turn it into a PDF. And you save everything. Oh, I have it all in my hard drive. I have a whole folder just for all the documents. Save everything. Have it on your phone.

Have it on your phone. Have it readily accessible at all times. And just document everything. Oh, yeah. Everything. Because, I mean, honestly, like, and I've said it before, from the outside looking in, it's starting to look like targeting. And when they're, you know, arresting you and hitting you with search warrants and everything

else, just document it all and have it readily accessible. And then after I believe the property or evidence describes above is that evidence of the crime or crimes of 76-5-106.5. Stalking, the facts established grounds for insurance of a search warrant are... Wait, yeah, what is... Then I will say this, that search warrant was very poorly served from a tactical standpoint. How would you do it? Well, it would be a little different.

Oh, my God, I have numerous experience in assisting in the apprehension of violent suspects. So I officer... Well, he's explaining his credentials right now. So that's him explain his credentials. And then now he's going into why he did this. Did he talk about how high he was in the Mormon community? Did he put his years of service? Normally they'll put their years of service.

So he's going after harassment detail. That's understandable. You're going to his church. You're going to his house. Yeah. Okay. I'm not saying you were wrong or whatever. But he was dispatched as harassment detail.

Benjamin was arrested days prior for stalking the victim in the case. For any incident, I found four individuals. outside the residents who were hanging a sign that depicted the victim's face with words next to it and said, I stole a dying man's life savings. It's in their report. The reporting party reported that they had a ride in a black

shabby Malibu, I made contact. Malibu. Contact one of the individuals asked what was going on. One of the mails told me that he was supporting a website called GoFundMe and elected to show me his phone. So he surrendered the phone.

while looking at the phone I noticed he was facetiming a person whose contact info stated Ben. I asked the mail if he was speaking with Ben Schneider or his alias via YouTube. Reckless Ben. He confirmed Ben was who was on the phone. Due to the previous case regarding Benjamin, I knew that he had been arrested for stalking and it appeared he was having these four individuals go to the victim's residence on his behalf to continue the harassment. I advised the mail of his Miranda Rice informed him that I intended to seize his phone for evidentiary purposes. This mail was transported to the American Fork Police Department.

So that's when they took his phone. Yeah. I want to see the warrant for the going into the Airbnb. Do you happen to know your distance from the residence? We were in the same neighborhood. Yeah, American Fork is like one small little neighborhood. So everyone just lives in this. So like the air, if I just got a random Airbnb in American.

Fork just happened to be next to his house. One of the guys who's been helping me film for a couple years just happens to also live in American Fork, just neighbors with him. So everyone's just in that. That's why the cops would show up in 30 seconds because he makes a call and then the cop is literally there in 30 because it's just there's nowhere. It's just one neighborhood basically, you know? The owner said there were stolen Legos.

Yeah. Because as you're saying, the warrant is stolen Legos. They were specifically stolen Legos. That's what I said for like the search part. It's like, we're looking for this evidence. And it's like, this is what we're searching for. No, no, I see how it came together now. It's fucking reaching.

They're fishing at this point. Yeah, the one that show just sent about how, you know, Benjamin Schneider lives in California. I am requesting that he be held until his court date as he poses a flight risk and has multiple open cases in two different counties involving harassment, stalking, and commercial obstruction. Living in a different jurisdiction is not an immediate flight risk. Right. It is, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's one of living in a different jurisdiction. It's, it's, I'm, it's one of those things. It's gone so far and I, I, at this point, I'm afraid to ask, but what is slackline. Oh, it's like a tight rope, but a trampoline. I saw you do and it was set up 30 feet in the air. Oh, so this is like circuit shit. Yeah, so it's like 30 feet in the air. There's like an air bag underneath us. And, and, um, and, and, um, So you're like 30 feet in the air And like a tightrope

And we're doing like double backflips and stuff It's crazy. Yeah. Jesus. I can see How they convinced a judge to go to your Airbnb From reading that Because it was started off as a harassment case.

Hop in the middle of you. Sorry. I just want to see old beautiful. No, no. No, no. It's like reading that. It started off as a harassment case Which

Yeah, okay. And then it went in. to the Airbnb owner heard you guys talking about stolen Legos, which you were talking about the case that has to do with them stealing Legos. And it all came together. And so the cops investigating went to a judge. And they were like, hey, they're talking about stolen Legos. They're involved in this whole stalking, harassment case.

Like, we need to just go figure out what happened. And that's where they got the search warrant signed off by a judge. Here's what I don't understand about the case. Why did cops with rifles drunk? show up because I know it should have been like that might be that might just be their SOP for serving any high risk warrant or high level warrant and it because why would consider high risk no risk can apply to visibility so if it's something to where reckless bin has a large YouTube following because of the visibility that can elevate it to a

higher risk what is that yeah like genuinely I have no idea I don't know and I and I wouldn't be would it be the opposite if he has high visibility because no no eyeballs. No. So when you have high visibility, you have, obviously you have people who follow you. And so of the warrants that I've served, the higher risk warrants that I've served, it's someone who has

a network who has people who will blindly follow or just follow, it's that loyalty. And you don't know when you take that bad guy out of the house, there might be someone who sees that and doesn't like that. And then they, but ultimately it appears that American Fork is a smaller PD

and this might not be something that they do frequently. And so for me, going from serving anywhere from five to ten warrants, high risk warrants a month, this might be something they do quarterly. So when it's got this high visibility, they want to make sure that there's not some sort of loyalty to where now they're exposing themselves to unknown risk or anything that might follow. They're just not used to this. Yeah.

So I found out what the warrants were for. They said that I was threatening to burn the place down. if they don't give the Legos, basically Amman, the CEO called the police, after I was like, hey, can you please just give us the Legos back? Amman then calls the police and says, hey, Ben Schneider just told me if I don't give the Legos back right now, he's going to burn down the building and kill everyone inside. And so that's what my warrant is for, I guess. And that would be a felony on his side, right? Yeah, so like what are we doing now?

That's like borderline terroristic threat. Yeah, this is kind of like unreleased stuff. He said that's lying about it. I'm trying to bomb the building, shoot everyone inside, burn the building if we don't get the Legos back, is what he said I told that. That's why we're getting to like near swatting territory. So what I did is I called the police department. I said, hey, I think this person is lying to you guys making like fake threats in my name. He's lying about evidence and all this stuff.

Can you guys do a criminal case on this and maybe get him in trouble for that, you know? And the police said, okay, yeah, sweet. They did a whole police report on this. And for three months, they ghosted me. And I keep calling them. Like still to this day, like every week I call that. and they just ghost me. I'm like, hey, how's the case?

I leave him a voice message. I'm like, have you thought about getting a Mormon attorney? Yeah. I am getting one. One of the attorneys I have is Mormon, yeah. Really? Yeah. He's not the one in charge, but he is one of the attorneys helping.

He's more like the face for it just in case. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if we're going to fight fire with fire. For sure. Did the ghost fund for the family that ever come to fruition? Yeah, we raised the money in like two or three. three hours. No, no, I think it was like 12 hours. 12 hours. Okay, shit. They get it? We had the money in 12 hours, I think. Yeah. Yeah. That was going crazy. I think it's over like half a million now. The owner of, uh, what was it?

Owner of the company. Oh, uh, Amy McNeff. No, uh, the, Brian, Brian, Ron Enzo on GoFundMe. Yeah, Brian Ms. Yeah. Yeah. He actually did a video saying like, hey, we were told to remove this. That was Patreon. Is it? Who was a CEO? Oh, Patreon. Patreon. He's the one that, okay, that's what I was like, who is the one that actually defended you guys because they were trying to get. Yeah, that was awesome. Oh my God. They did the same thing to GoFundMe and GoFundMe got scared and took it down. And then all the GoFundMe people have been like reaching out to me like the top people.

So I have like all their contacts. So I just called him back. And I'm like, hey, like, why does it go fund me down? They're like, oh, we got a season assist as it goes against the court order to have this go fund me up. And we kept talking for a long time. And it was like all night we were trying to negotiate of like how to get this back up. And finally we came to a solution. We changed bricks and mini figs to the word mystery company.

So now if you look at it, it says Brian put his Legos in a mystery company and he was never paid for them. And that's all it took. And then it was like, yeah. So we were like negotiating all night and it was just that easy, I guess. And yeah, the next day it got put back up. So it was only down for like half a day. So I have a question for you that I think a lot of people are wanting to know. So Brian's GoFundMe is.

is up to half a million dollars. Yeah. The amount of money that was owed to him, like after the store was taken over was maybe, what was it, 80 or 115, somewhere around there, right? 80 to 112,000. 80, 112, we'll say 110, 115K. So we don't know, we have to go through

all the paperwork and stuff still. We'll verify it with Lego experts. Yeah, so, yeah, Lego expert. Let's just say it's up to 15, okay, six figures, okay? So what happens? to the excess money. So right now we put it in the legal trust because what lawyers are saying

is to get through a RICO case could be millions and millions of dollars. They say it could be millions of dollars. And yeah. So it's going into a legal trust. And also a legal trust what Brian was saying is that Bricks and mini figs is going to try and take

the GoFundMe money, the Patreon money. All of it. Like they can get access to his bank account and just drain his bank account they can, but if it's an illegal trust, they can't touch it. So it's an illegal trust and, hey, say you need some lawyers, then it comes out of the legal trust. After that, I don't know.

So all that money is going towards Brian and legal fees. Is it for, is it all for Brian's and Brian's legal fees or is it any of it going to your legal fees or anything? I'm not sure if Brian wants to, if he has some left over and wants to give some to us for our legal fees, I would appreciate it. but it's going to cost him a couple pennies I made that go fund me for Brian so I mean he I will say this Brian doesn't want any more than what he is still owed for the Lego set

He's a good guy He just wants to break even he he doesn't want one penny more So and you don't want it dude I What I love most and it catches people off is I do think of a lot of people It's like oh he's trolling so there's preconceived idea of you guys where it's like, oh, they're just fucking around, but like you guys actually care and I don't think it comes off and up.

I do think it does come off, but I don't think to the degree people would expect, because you guys really do care about the small guy, which is awesome and rare. I understand it. I understand it from like their perspective too. So whenever we go to these bricks and minifig stores or when we make videos in general,

people are thinking that we're just the typical, like, TikTok YouTubers. Like, would you think about that as a, blanket term, you're like, oh, you're just doing something crazy and outlandish for like some of views, which is like 90% of the audience, like, content, like 90% of like metaglass TikTokers do that, you know? And so like if they are like see someone coming in with these spy glasses and like causing chaos, they probably are like more like nine times out of 10. If they say, oh, they're doing it for likes and clicks, nine times out of 10, they're right.

They think that we're trying to make someone mad just to make them mad. Yeah, which is like trolling in that. Professional trolling. Yeah, but like... That's what I do. So like, if we are to do that to like, I guess, well, we don't need to do. The point never to be mad. Every single plot point is like, does this get us closer to getting the Legos back?

If yes, then we'll explore it. If no, if we're just doing it because it pisses them off, like, then, okay, we will scrap that idea and we'll do an idea that is... Or they'll just get mad and that's just like on their side. Like, if you ask for your Legos back and they get mad, that's kind of on them. You know what I mean? It's not like you're saying anything bad. I just wish they'd give the Legos back.

Like at this point. Bro, if they would. But Brian's been made like good hole now, you know. A hundred, dude, it is wild. Now it's a totally different thing. Company and the damage. They, if just pay a hundred grand or give Lego's back versus what's going on now. It's like, homies, are you?

But see, they had the easy way now. They exploded the easy way. That's no more. That's the extortion. If you say that, let's, let's be. You're extorting them by giving them the easy way. Let's be real for two seconds right now. This is the unsubscribe podcast.

And had it not been for me showing up to Orlando and seeing the kind of following that Eli has generated and the kind of following that has been produced by this production, this is the unsubscribe podcast. And these people are everywhere. And there's a lot of them. And now that people have seen, you know, behind the curtain of what's going on with this story. Brother, after this drops, I don't, like, personally, so I have to say,

I would not want to fund of the way. I would not want to fund of the law enforcement agency that I currently am employed by. However, when this drops, like, it is going to be epic. It is going to be insane. You're going to have people from all different walks of life that do. It's awesome. We have created this amazing community because I, I, I, It's like military, you're military, you understand, hey, one of the big problems getting out is there's no community aspect.

So how do you build that community and then rally behind it? And then they, as we always say, it's like we work for them, not the other way around. Like we are in this position because everyone, the community, the viewers, we are blessed for that. And that how do we do the best we can? How can we help others? And they also cover the, they're terrifying. They're the most terrifying autistic military I've ever seen. They are terrifying.

Exactly who we want to support. They are terrifying. Like on the live stage, when you walk out, like, I'm, I was on stage at the hard rock in Orlando in front of thousands of people. And I didn't. What, what happened? I didn't think about it first off, because he's never done this and I've been on stage multiple times. I don't think any of that. I have been shot at.

On stage? No, not on. I mean, we were just talking about on stage, so I was like, maybe he's holding out. We're digging a vest. Listen, hear me out. Let me finish this. I have been shot at. I have had attempts on my life and have been less nervous than being on stage.

Oh my gosh. The unsubscribe podcast. Really? Why? Wait, what happened? In 2000, because when you had like 2,000 staring you. And then you are, because I, again, I forgot he had Ethan. You met habitual, I think.

But same thing. We're used to it. So when we tell him to come. It's literally my first show, first time on stage at this size production. I'm at the Hard Rock in Orlando. They're loud. And it was, I've never in my life have I ever signed an autograph. And this show was like, it was insane.

So I'm really looking forward to the next series of shows because I'm going to be at all of them, just so you know. But it was the people that are a part of this community. I've had great conversations with. I've made amazing contacts in this community, but they are awesome. They sound off. They literally, they lock on to an idea and they support the right thing 100% of the time. And it is just, it's amazing. It is amazing to be a part of this, to be able to talk to you and have conversations with you guys.

And to be able to, like, hit up Eli and be like, hey, I'm here. I'm staying an extra day. Oh, also, I'm staying another extra day. To be able to do this, like this community is wild. And they believe in the two things that I mentioned earlier, integrity and accountability. They believe in those things, and they will die on that hill. And it is like, it's awesome. There's no other word to describe it.

It is awesome. You look at our Reddit, and again, we trash on Reddit. Other than that, our Reddit community is the most savage little. Because we're at what fucking 50,000, 100,000 on the Reddit? I don't know about Reddit. It's awesome. But someone's... They will go like, you fucking jocke it.

I like, oh, stop. Don't go to other groups and bully. Someone screenshot me kissing Cody on the cheek last night on stream. And now it's the thing on the Reddit. I actually had to read download Reddit. And I'm like, wait a second. This picture looks really bad. But let me tell you what was happening here.

Wait, why is it bad? Because, Because the way Because the way I was grabbing his face Because I'm cheating Dude if my wife sees this photo I got some explaining I literally grabbed his face

I said hey I'm gonna kiss Cody if I get 100 subs Immediately hit 100 subs on Twitch And I was like Gotta do it And grab his face And kiss him on the cheek Someone screenshot it looks

I'm gonna show you guys I'm gonna wait I'm gonna pull up I can Sorry So adorable. Eli, did you see it? I'm looking at it now.

Very passionate. Aw. For all the listeners right now, he's got him grasped by the neck, the chin, and his cheek, and he's holding him. He's caressing the cheek?

Yeah, he's caressing it. Give me my phone back. And it appears as essentially caressing. Yeah, yeah. And it doesn't look like he's consenting to it. But the top comment is, here is the soap.

Now go ahead and drop it. He did consent. Second comment. Who's a good. girl. Third comment, that's me. Wait,

that's you. You commented that's me. And you're third now. You're not even a third comment. Hey, following Kingfix media on Twitch and Kik. Sorry. That's a good girl.

Oh my gosh. If I get a thousand, if this gets a thousand subs, I'll have your Beanie babies. Well? I love the community so much. It's so sad. They latch on to everything.

And it's the most fantastic. I've ever been a part of. Right now. So you, me and Brian are currently getting sued for $1.3 million. Or it could be just you or just Brian or a mixture

of all three of us. Yeah, we just got that number from Coffeezilla's video. He did all the work and so we're like, ah, if he researched today, he's probably trustworthy, I guess. I don't know.

But yeah, it seems like we are getting sued for $1.3 million. And we have a TRO, so we're not allowed to talk about them, which is why I haven't been able to post. Which sucks, because I just did all this work to get all this momentum.

And now it's like, God, we just kill the channel now. Okay, that sucks. But, um, that is what it is. So they got to share their side. It was a one-sided hearing. So they got to share their side. We were not able to share our side.

If we were able to share our side, it would have been easy, peasy. Because they're saying we're making bomb threats on them that I went in and tried to kill them. Like, I tried to kill the managers what they're saying, which the worst day did to the manager was, I guess we made her like a world record certificate that said that she stole the world's most Legos or something, which actually was true. That was true. They did steal the world.

we looked it up. They have, they're actually tied for first place for the most leg it was ever stolen. So that wasn't like false. Tied for first with who? Some other, it's an Oregon also. Another Oregon company stole $200,000 with the Lego. What could just be like one of Josh's legs? Yeah, so they're tied for first place. Damn it. Amanda, I knew it was you. And, uh, how was your day, honey? But so I obviously never tried to, I'd never tried to kill the manager. Like, like, why would I want to do that? What a psychotic thing to say? Yeah, but because they said that in court, the judge shined off that we're not allowed to talk about them.

Also, we're supposed to take that on our videos, which I don't know. Oh, here's another thing, too. How did they serve that, like, again, how did this come about without you being able to They served me by email because they couldn't serve me in person because I was somewhere else. Yeah, and in the papers that are literally trying to get all of the money. So they have, they want to take Patreon money. They want to take the GoFundMe money. They want to take the YouTube revenue, basically everything.

So not only from old people. Yeah, not even from Brian. They want to take all. forms of revenue. Did you sold We steal from old people merch? Yeah. Yeah, we have, it's Bricks and Minifix. We still from old people. Nice.

But Bricks and Mini Fis just a tagline. Nick's proud of you. Hold on, hold on, hold on. They're still trying to serve me. So the police have been after me this whole time. They served you by email. Yeah. So as far as I know, and granted, I've been in law enforcement

in a long time. When I was doing civil process, it was service in person. Right. Or by mail. Do they, they? Wait, I thought by mail, I thought you had to literally do it in person. So there's alternate services. So criminal, so like a subpoena, could be posted service, which means I just have to tape it to your front door.

I've seen a lot of lawyers react to this. And they said because they tried serving me for these three weeks with no success, like I was obviously trying to avoid them. Like I was kind of also being open about that. So because of that, they were able to do service by email, which is an email and it was an electronic transmission and you cannot confirm the sender. They might have done that because they- They confirmed it somehow because I think I emailed Bricks and Minifigs asking for their inventory list.

And so they said because- They can respond to that specific email address. But they probably got approval by the judge because they thought that you were in Mexico and they're running around. So they had two emails. They sent to both emails. So I sent them a quite, I said, hey, can you please give me the inventory list? So that was the first email.

And the second email was the one at the end. in my YouTube videos. So they were able to confirm that both of them were me. And so that's why, I mean, according to lawyers, it's like not that far-fetched to me, I guess. It's also important to note that the location of this podcast is undisclosed. Because some of us are active duty army and we didn't put in leave. So the location is in Alaska.

In Alaska. Nope, stop. We're not going to disclose the location. It is undisclosed. It's on the moon. It gets hybrid. We're on the moon We're somewhere

Where we're supposed to be right now I just appreciate you guys fine enough to Germany To do this podcast Yeah And now you're really And now he's no we're In always about the war and so it has been We're in my house right now

It's like right when one thing gets like dismissed Another the police are after me again And right when that thing gets served by email Then they serve me So it's like now they stuff and serve me So the police are still after me right now I'm a free traveler because traveling it's fun for me. There's no other reason I'm traveling. And yeah. It is not commercial travel.

He's enjoying life. Free will travel. There you go. Enjoying life. Oh my gosh, dude. You have like all the, it's like, we're just trying to be like, okay, we're going to make sure your lawyers are set up and you are set up. Yeah, we're like, now you're shielded from everything. You need to hire someone. We will protect them. It was well versed in law enforcement as well as civil proceedings. You need to hire. somebody because in the last however many hours you said things that we're going to have to cut from this podcast. Oh, man. This podcast is going to be like four minutes.

No, no. If you're just a single word. But it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all to protect you. And that's the big thing is that you, you, you have to, you have to protect yourself. There's certain things you can and can't say. And I hate to say that I'm a constitutional. You're going to protect yourself before you wreck yourself. I just want to be open with what's happening, but...

It's the hardest part until you see... Politics really taught me watching that, but anytime you're online and now you're... You have this massive amount of people watching you for everything, but also they're going to try to use it against you. It is crazy because it does not matter what you say. America is no longer like guilty into... You're guilty until we prove you're not.

Yeah, and even then no one gives a shit once you've proven your innocent. sense because the damage already done and they will you go oh well no they took that one segment out of context what no i didn't say that doesn't matter that video got 10 million views and yours only got 50 000 fucking 900 nine nine million 550 people still think you are guilty of that those 50 000 you've seen your message they're the only ones would be like oh no he didn't did you not see this video and then you're like what the f f because again you're with Brandon or any of the politics shit and this is dude we had what who was the giant news one uh rolling stones did a attack against our podcast because we had actman on he brought um he brought a copy

of the commonest manifesto and mine conf and brandon goes oh i own that i own a copy of mine conf and then once he says that then it's like yeah it's like dude it's trash reading I immediately go oh they're gonna take they're gonna delete that and just grab that and you got it probably for the context of like trying to like the same you're learning it's everyone like it's a historian

no Hitler's a good person that I don't know clip it we got your back but like we want to set you up for success because it is something you really do want to fight for the little guy and you want to help people which is a rare thing with I don't know

many influencers, content creators, whatever you've met, but it is a rare thing. Really? Very much so. Throughout this whole podcast, I've been doing a lot of, like, stuff that's going to get me canceled anyways. I'm, like, on my way there already. So here's the thing. A lot of influencers and content creators, they, it's such a weird realm.

It's such a weird world to be in which I still claim to be new here. I've been doing content for the last five years. I still claim to be new here. I thought you were doing Vine. Well. That was like 15 years ago. First of all, Finn cut that, because I'm old. Across Canada in a Volvo.

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Everyone. Learn more at Volvocars.ca. That's different. Okay. That's different. But to be doing content and to link with the crew that I've linked with, there are a lot of people who are self-absorbed and there are a lot of people who they do things specifically for clicks and views. Personally, that's not what I do.

I shoot the kind of content that I'd like to consume. That's how I started. But being that. Bukaki. I don't know what that is. That's a good. Okay. Whatever.

That was a really good. I don't know what that is. You don't Google Mukaki. Don't Google it. Google it? That means it's... Is that like a cooking style or what are we talking? Yeah, it's a Japanese, uh, Benny Hanna's loves.

You don't know what it? It takes a wild. It's like a hundred dudes jerking off on a chick. That's why you, dude, you were the most innocent. All. Keep going. So you like, you're saying that you like to make content you like to consume. Hold on one second.

If my wife is watching this, I love you very much. And I do not know the definition of Bukaki until now. Are you innocent? So I love it. You're like, what is that? Is it spicy? Okay. Moment of transparency.

I know what it is. Okay. I know what it is. Which leads me to my next question. How did you guys learn the word compilation? So you did. Just kidding. Don't answer that.

Where was I going? You were saying that you like to watch content that you make. I didn't say that. No, no, you said you like to consume content that you make. So you don't do things just for clicks and likes. The content creator mindset, you know, it's the old newspaper adage, if it bleeds, it reads. If it's something that's a controversy or if it's pointing a finger at somebody or if it's a negative thing, if it bleeds, it reads. If it's negative, if it generates clicks and views, that's what I'm going to post.

I have been, I don't want to say anti that because I still make fun of people and I make fun of things that if it bleeds, it reads. But at the same time, I'm not chasing the views. I'm not like, hey, let me go into the next thing. Let me post someone else's content and then green screen myself over it to, oh, sorry, that's getting a little. Eli knows. Really put on a jet with eyeballs in a lot. them out. You either.

No, we love anything. But at the same time, there's, it's, it's just this weird, like, it's this weird line of,

you know, am I posting this to promote myself? Or am I posting this because I genuinely believe in it? And from what I've seen, what you're posting is what you believe in. Ultimately, I think that they should be either

compensated for the Legos or return the Legos. Yeah. I mean, You don't spend nine months without posting on a project unless you, like, really believe in it, you know? Exactly. If I wanted, like, views and clicks, I'll just be posting every day, you know? Yeah. Which I am doing now because I want to, like, blow the story up because I want him, because, like, they're not doing, like, we didn't fulfill our goal.

Yeah. So it's like, maybe if we get public opinion on our side, then, but it always goes back to the goal, you know, like, we wanted to make it big in order to get the, like, it was back for him, you know? Like, that was just, like, we tried everything. It didn't work. So this is our last resort now, you know, is, like, blowing it up. But we tried to do it in the video. Like that was the whole thing. Like I told Brian, like, I'm not going to post the video until you get your Legos back.

We tried everything. I got a restraining order. It's like, okay, I literally will go to jail now forever if I keep going. So, like, the only option now is to do the public opinion thing. But that was like the last resort. So right now we're just in kind of like court cases. And we have a bunch of stuff coming forward. I guess like I got all the body cam footage of Amman making these threats against us.

And then me basically going to the police being like, here's all the raw. Like I showed the police the raw footage. Like, here's us when we go up the elevator, talk to him. You see the whole conversation with no cuts. And then we go down the elevator. That's our full conversation. Like, you can watch the whole thing. We did not make any threats.

And the police are like, oh, we're still going to charge you anyway. It's like, what? You saw it for yourself. Like, why are you still charging us when you can see we didn't make these threats? So it's the most insane thing ever. And a little bit of the sneak preview that's going to be like episode three. But yeah. Talking more about like aiming and getting like beneath the surface a little bit more with the CEO.

We think he has a thing called, we had a doctor look at this. But we got the CEO diagnosed with the medical conditions. called a psychological projection, which is when you, like, say I have something of really negative quality, and then I blame others for that quality. So it's called psychological projection. So he calls me, for example, a keyboard warrior in the third video. He's like, Ben has a lot of bark, but then when it comes down to it, he won't actually bite, you know, like he, he says all these things online, but he won't do anything.

So you can get a doctor to diagnose people for calling you names? Well, so that's psychological projection because he thinks I'm a keyboard warrior when in reality, they're the one saying sue us, sue us. But then when we sue them, they close down their store. It seems like they're actually the keyboard war. You know, so they had the one part even he said, hey, if you do these things, we'll give the Legos back. Yeah.

And that's on camera. Like, the guy was like, okay, yeah, got the Lagos. If you do these things, I will give the Legos back. Oh, no shit. Yeah, Josh. Josh said that. Yeah. And we did it, the stuff.

There was like three tasks he gave us. We had basically. Amanda to be liked on our side. We had to apologize to her for doing a fake raffle, which the raffle was real, so that was stupid. But we're like, I will do it anyways, you know. And then we had to get, we had to each leave a positive review on the website, which was stupid. That's a very interesting stipulation. And this is the other, this is recorded, the undergoing, if you do these things, we will give the Legos back.

And they wanted Brian Menzel to write an apology letter. And so, well, the thing is like, okay, whatever that's easy, swallow your pride, whatever, even if they're in the wrong. he was thinking about writing it anyways, but they could use this against him as a form of saying, like, I was in the wrong, everything I said is a lie if he apologizes. So, Ben basically A-I'd him saying that he was sorry,

but it really wasn't him, so he still got the apology. So in case they used it against him, it was a fake video. Oh, yeah, on that second time on the video, you built AI inside AI, inside AI. That was one of your beats. Oh, yeah.

We're on the live streams. That was funny. Oh, yeah. Does that work? I don't know. I mean, if somebody made an AI video of you and used as evidence against you and court, I don't think it would work. No. That's kind of our whole thing is like, you know what I mean?

That's kind of our whole thing is like, well, let's work. I don't know. Let's send it. We're getting like three levels deep on this. I'm like, this is 4D chess. Our channel is just kind of like a giant experiment. Like we don't know if it's like, we're just sent stuff. Like, oh, this seems like a cool idea.

Maybe it works. Let's try it. know it's like they're troubleshooting the u.s code it's actually a great comparison you know how like computer programmers just like set the model in the system and they go in and try to break it they're like let's pen test it with our own lives yeah like legally maybe this works let's try let's see what happens well even like the redacted footage how did you get all that information because that's even one where it's like the footage you were sent with the FOIA request was different than so yeah i wake up and i get like

a thousand messages. You're like, the unredacted footage is released. I'm like, what the heck? So I see some videos on YouTube of people calling up the American Fork Police Department and they're like, we've been hacked. And the American Fork Police Department has been like, someone hacked us. Like, this is insane. But I think the American Fork Police Department was just saying that because if they get hacked, then the unredacted footage can't be used in the court of law or it can't be, yeah, like it's illegal for us to post that online then. But if they accidentally released it, which it turns out is what has, what has, happened, I think, then even if it's an accident, it's still a public release of the police records, which now can be used in the court of law, it can be used on YouTube.

It can be, so I think they were lying to people saying we've been hacked in order to make it seem like, oh, you can't use this footage, but it actually got like leaked, I guess. Yeah, and I think there's two parts to it. So I think what you're saying is true. They said that so that they can have a backing of saying like, oh, you can't use this because we accidentally leaked it. But I think someone from the inside had to have released it purposely. Because like how, how do you accidentally leak something or upload it?

You know what I mean? Like there hadn't been someone from the inside. I hate conspiracy. I'm like the biggest skeptic when it comes to conspiracy theories. But I actually kind of think that one has valid reason because a lot of lawyers were saying, if there's footage, like my social security number got leaked, like people's credit card numbers got leaked. Like everything got leaked in this. And it's crazy.

So it's like if that type of information has the possibility like you make sure a hundred percent is not getting leaked He's like every once in a while there might be like a comma that's not supposed to be there like a misspelled word That's really like sometimes that'll but you never Released the whole unredacted files he's like that never happens and that happens here so maybe so This happened two days after I post the video being like okay guys if we could all come together Maybe we can convince the American Fork Police Department to unreleased unredact this footage you know I was like because all the answers are the unredacted Let's all like join the others community and get them to unredact this footage and then like literally the next day they unreda so it's like

All right. Whoever did it you're a real one Ben Ben is is uncontrolled slightly controlled chaos Yes if anyone ever obsessed us can we just throw Ben? Oh dude That's like a fucking he's our we have down with them Ben is a f*** IED you put it you you you you you plant him in a small town where Legos went awry and he's gonna explode and make it nationwide news. He's like a fucking tiny nuclear IED. You're my best friend on this planet. Did you just say, I'll read.

Yes. Do you know who you remind me of with like the legal schemings better cost all? You did it. You did a homeschool. Not without the side conversation. Like not to do two conversations at once, but like a rye. You just did the homeschool thing where they like read a word a thousand times, but they've never heard it said out loud.

I'm sorry. It's okay. It happens to me all the fucking time. We have a support group. I'm just retarding. Can't say words right. He reminds me of Nathan for you. Oh,

yeah. Just with like the legal schemings of like the crazy ideas of like this might work. He's the, who's the guy you, you talk to all the time or like a watch all the time like that does like breaks the video games? Like roller coaster tycoon like. Oh, uh,

game it. Uh, fucking game it out. Yeah. Let's game it out. I think. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. He goes in and he finds like you say, roller coaster tycoon or something. And he's like, well, how can we do something wrong in this town? Basically takes the rules of the video game. It's like, hmm, if these are all the rules, I can break it this way. Oh, yeah, yeah. Josh. It's Josh.

Yeah, let's get it out. What's a reasonable outcome for what the police department is doing, which is targeting an individual, rating their house. I got a press release. lying on a press release. So like, like, like, uh, arresting you with like excessive force, like all that. It's like a reasonable outcome. So my solution was, I think if they all did the chicken dance and said they're sorry,

then that would be, uh, here's, it's okay. I'll accept their apology. He said, okay. And you're being, I love you. You're so seriously. Like, no, he's like, two million dollars or chicken dancing. Sorry. It's like, well, I'm going to take the chicken dance.

Honestly. Imagine. Imagine that was like, that was like, that was like, actually a little like, the thing was like $2 million. Which is it is. You would fucking The chicken days. You would tell like,

the police department just be like na-na-na-na-na-na-da-da-da-na-da. Can you be happy and you'd be like, we're even? Thank you. Can you imagine a long way and drop everything?

Cop showing up to roll call like, all right, we got seven warrants over on Main Street. Also, uh, 8 p. We got to do the chicken dance for social media thing.

Like that would be, so honestly, like the most reasonable outcome, I think that requesting a public apology. with the chicken dance. But chicken dance, I'm not against it. I would love to see.

Well, it's a lesson. Yeah, it's a lesson learned. It was this or $2 million. But, but, but, we're sorry. We're sorry.

Honestly, the more I think about it, I think that's a way better idea than $2 million. Like, genuinely. Like, that would be like the biggest thing ever, the biggest news. It would be like nationwide news. for real. The lawyers would have to present to present.

You have option A. Option B. And they're like, dude, that's a hard one to fight. Be like, this is free. I mean, it's... He sees how evil. Would you do that? Would you take that?

Would you take that if you were... If I show up to my agency and they say, we need you to do the chicken dance on the internet. net, I am going to fight that tooth and nail and say, I do not want to do this. Let's pay the money. Personally, that's what I'm going to say. However, you know, there's right and wrong. There's right and wrong.

And now that I'm on, I'm at this point in my law enforcement and content creator career, because it's, it's both. Oh, that got you. Dude, Ben's like, he's right in the side, dude. At this point, personally, I think I'm entitled to some money. I'm just, I'm kidding. Wait, wait, so what do you think is the reasonable outcome for a situation like this? So personally, you know, it's, we're adults.

And I think an apology is, is appropriate, right? I chicken dance. I get it. I understand you're, you're trolling to an extent. But I think that an apology, a public statement and saying, something, we did this and we did it wrong, and this is why. I think that that measure of accountability is important. There are two things, and I'm not going to get on my soapbox, but as an NCO in the Army, integrity and accountability are two of the most important things

that these young men and women can have. And the second that they sacrifice one for anything, for a network, for their buddies, for a buddy-buddy thing, which it appears to be what they're doing, I can't say definitively, the second you sacrifice that you lose all. credibility. And one of the only things that we have, especially, I can only speak from lived experience, one of the only things that you have as a man is your integrity and your accountability. And so saying, listen, this happened, this was wrong. We demand an apology, a public apology, a front-facing public apology. I think there is, that's, that's at minimum, what needs to be requested. And it just, I'm on the outside looking in. Like I said, you know, I have very limited

expertise and very limited knowledge of this specific case. But from what I've seen from the outside looking in, you are owed an apology. The way they have treated you, the way they have conducted themselves, the way they've done this investigation, and these traffic stops where they immediately are looking for Ben. That's what's wild. That's a problem. Was that the rolling stop sign run? Yeah, yeah.

That's what, like, people was like, oh, they stopped or didn't stop. You guys stopped. If you watched the footage at most, it would be like, I mean, you guys, like, you maybe move this much, but you, uh, and then, no, no, so he was very conscious of it. So they knew that the cops were following them. So they were like, do not break any laws. Like, don't eat, like, stop at every stop sign. Wait, do you guys have a dash cam? No, they have all the police did. Yeah. Yeah. So if, no, I'm saying, if you have your own dash cam, so this is a little trick of the trade. So one of the things that I did as, I would classify myself to be an expert pursuit driver,

even in a pursuit, I have to maintain certain traffic laws. So what I did, when I approached a stop, if I had a red light, I would say this. I would say checking left, checking right, intersection clear. If you do that, if you have your own personal dash cam, and you say that and you do that every time, they have less and less ground to stand on. What's your question? Because I see you. I love that idea because then it's like this, this, this.

That is good. Wait, real quick, though. So basically you would say an apology. Would you say anything else that they, like a reasonable outcome would be? We will never do this again. And this is why, because I don't really care about like, but they, I don't really feel like that. Percussions. So here's future proofing it.

Maybe not you. But like, you know, there's other people that got involved. Like some people got really mad. Like their, their, their girlfriend, wife, whatever got upset. Yeah. You know what happens in a civil case. Like they got detained. Like they got interrogated.

Yeah. You know. In a civil case at, at some point, someone's declared right and wrong. At that point, there are monetary punitive damages. And once there's monetary punitive damages, if I am the recipient of any value, I don't demand a lot from the people that are against me, the plaintiff or defendant that's against me. Because at that point, once I have received a monetary reward for my case, I will say, all right, I demand a public apology. And that is just, that's the view.

I'm just like worried about it for like other people because I've heard a lot of stories of them doing this to other. like this exact same thing to other people. It doesn't seem like it's something new. So it's like that's what I'm, like I don't really care if they apologize to me or not, but I just want them to like not do this to more people going forward. But so it's also important to note that everything that I've just said could be 100% wrong because every jurisdiction is different. Every judge is different.

Every case is different. So everything that I've told you based on my lived experience, it could be completely different. And, you know, there's an anticipated outcome. But having that anticipated outcome. it could be very different from that and if yeah if it is then I think it's the it's that part of human psychology you can control what you can and you can hope for the best with this message or this lesson now how do you go about that is that part of it's like hey we apologize for everything that transpired and also we are

going to work and be better in the future and then you also with that same their video with your video. It's like, hey, and just to hold them, oh no, we're good. Thank God. If you hold them more accountable, my one expectation is if any of you out there experience anything that is unfair moving forward, reach out to us first. And we will make sure that a spotlight is on that. Because then that is that fear. That is your nuclear weapon. That is your, sorry, that should be, it's your deterrent. Yeah. So a question for you guys. why would a judge sign off on these papers getting a TRO when they don't have anything to back it up? The burden of proof of that is remarkably low.

The burden of proof, but also liability. So if the judge doesn't take action and then something happens, that judge... Oh, she's just in case. Yeah. Oh, man. Air on the side of caution. T is the, that is the big factor in that temporary, temporary restraining work. Because temporary is the burden of proof is...

But even in the TRO, they have a clause in there that said that he's not allowed to post anything and he's supposed to take off all, like, the videos. So what about that more wild to me? What's more wild, too, is... So how's that part of a TRO? I saw a lawyer say that... So to answer that question, they're saying my video is causing people to go out and harm their business. Normally, they have to put up like a $200,000 bond in case they're wrong because they're, like,

damaging my whole brand right now by not letting me post. Like, by silencing me, I can't make... make money. I just build up this momentum and now it's gone. So usually they put up a $200,000 bond, but the judge waived it for whatever reason. So that's one thing I'm wondering. Can't he sue for, hey, I'm

holding out on well, the police. Because I just built up all this momentum. And then eating you with the bricks and mini figs for restriction. Well, is it a gag or job? It should pertain to the current case. So outside of that, you

should be good. I mean, I'm a constitutional absolutist. You should be good to exercise your free speech. However, his, whatever they've said as far as you posting, it should be in reference to the case that's before him. It shouldn't be in reference to anything outside of that. So we did talk to them as well, and we were, obviously we want the court case to be way sooner. And so the thought behind it is like, okay, if we can do this even sooner,

it actually benefits Ben because like the less he's able to post. the less money he's going to be able to make. So it's not just like, oh, we just want to make this sooner just because we just want to post more. No, this is his livelihood. And so that's what we're trying to get into. Since September to build, you know, we've been working out. I spent my life. September what?

September. It was your birthday. My birthday? It was in September. It was in September. It was in September. It's not in September. It's October.

Go ahead. We've been working every day since September to make the best video in the world. We finally get the momentum we've been working so hard for. And boom, TRO, just lose all our hype. It's insane. That's where I, like, we discussed it. That's what I get super pissed at because now it is. And part of that, show how much money with revenue, everything, how many videos released,

and now them cutting the embell, like, they just, like, I was going like this. Yeah, we're like premature. We're like at six months. Everything just dies. It's so, so sad. And that's why. like they owe for that because they changed. I mean, it's followers.

You can't post a single video now. Your last video was like, hey, sorry, can't talk about it. Yeah. Podcasts or anything. Even outside of that, you expanding your network for your business is affected now because it is, hey, we can't talk about that. Just like this episode, we have to wait to release it until you guys are in the clear. Dude, I can't wait to drop this.

I'm already excited about being on unsub. Like we talked about it last night. I've been to this house before. I've been to this studio before. But to now be a part of this, this is, I cannot wait for this to drop. And I cannot wait to, I mean, I'm rooting for you guys. But the disposition of this case is wild to me.

If I'm them, so I always play devil's advocate. If I'm them, I'm going to drop a public apology. I'm going to reimburse either the Lego set or the money or both. I'm going to pay out the lawsuit as much as I can, but I cannot wait to see how this, like I want a peaceful resolution for every party involved. Well, you're thinking like a reasonable person. Yeah, thank you. But if you remember, though, from our conversation before, bricks and mini figs, the people

at work there aren't, at least the people making the decisions, aren't reasonable people, you know? Dude, that's, and that's the hard part too, because you are dealing with, you're trying to, to rational versus irrational behavior. Like a reasonable person would have taken the easy way, you know. That's what a reasonable person would have, like literally any reasonable person would have done that. They would have just given the Legos back and not stolen.

But like, we're not dealing with reasonable people. Yeah. I have a question for you. Yeah, let's hear it. Have you ever been in a situation where a lot of the people that you're with, like the other police officers are at a house or a situation where they're doing some like shady stuff, but all of them are in on it and it kind of like presses on you.

Okay. And you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait. And it presses on you. And you're like, dang, like, I really don't want to be a part of this. Like, I don't know what to do in the situation. If yes, what do you do in that situation? So I didn't anticipate telling any law enforcement stories. But there's one specifically, which was a robbery slash pursuit that I had where ultimately the suspects, we, I was, I was in a,

I was involved in a pursuit. They ran, the one of the driver, or the driver ran from the vehicle and went to a residence, broke into a house, burglarized a house. And while on that scene, after chasing this guy in my car and on foot, I was a brand new supervisor at the time. And one of the guys said, put your effing hands up. And I vividly remember walking up to him and say, hey, don't cuss. and he was like, he looked at me like I was crazy.

He's like, what? I said, don't cuss. We're in the projects. Everybody is out here with their phones. Everybody's out here recording. And everybody's anti-police. And I said, don't cuss because they're recording us. At a certain point, you lose credibility based on how you deal with the public.

And when I saw that, and I said that, he kind of went to like the rest of the guys and was like, hey, can you believe it? Sergeant Kingsley Penderhues the third told me not to cuss. Like, what is that about? But at the same time, that's protecting us because if I treat every adult like an adult and I give you that respect,

I afford you that respect, ultimately, what can be said about my operation? What can be said about the actions that I've taken to now take a criminal into custody? There's a certain level of respect that you have to give in order to receive it. And we didn't cuss at this guy after I said, don't cuss.

ultimately he gave us the wrong name. So you should have cussed at him. Do you get the information? No. He did rob a guy. But no matter what he did that was wrong or appeared wrong, we didn't reciprocate. So we have to be above reproach. We have to be, we have to almost, you know, the Bible says turn the other cheek.

I'm a very, I've been Christian my whole life. I'm a very big proponent of turn the other cheek. But at the same time, the Bible also tells anyone without a sword. let him sell his cloak and acquire a sword. So I'll take action when action needs to be taken, but at the same time, I'm going to afford another grown man, another adult, another citizen, another taxpayer. I'm going to afford them the respect and courteousness, courtesy.

Courtesy. Is courteousness not a word? No, courtesy. We can cut that thin. You can cut that. No, keep it in. No, keep it in. Keep it in.

He can't spell and he can't speak. Keep going. I'm a little stressed out. I've had a long day. But no, I'm going to offer them that respect and that courtesy because no matter what they've done, I have to be above reproach. And what I've seen from the American Fork Police Department is that they have not extended that to you because it's based on, hey, we're friends with somebody. So we're going to treat the other person that's on the outside with less than respect. So you always speak up in like these situations when even if you have to, you have to.

You have to. And even now, like, since a lot of, we call it the Summer of Love, but the George Floyd, that whole thing that happened, if you and I are cops and we're on a scene and you're disrespecting somebody or you're treating somebody with less than courtesy or respect, if I don't call you out. Now, I am at risk of being. Go to prison now. You know what I mean?

So it's like I have to, you have to offer people courtesy. You have to be able to make sure that you maintain your baby. and just be respectful. If I'm doing a traffic stop and I walk up to the driver and the first thing I'm saying is, hey, in the back seat, are you Ben? How is that? That's what I was about to ask.

That is a wild thing. It's a targeted stop. So there are targeted, if I watch a hand-to-hand and I make a traffic stop and I know what it is, that's one thing. But if I'm stopping a vehicle, my introduction, no matter what I'm stopping the vehicle for, is always the same.

I'm Kingsley Pender, who's the third. I'm stopping you for this. Do you have your license and registration? After that, then we'll go into the other stuff. But the traffic stops that I saw was flashlight, hey, are you been? That's wild. Without a license or anything, they just knew. That's why I was like, yeah, what the fuck?

That's wild. Well, there was one police officer that was kind of doing what you were talking about. His name was Officer Richardson. He was kind of a younger guy. He was kind of cool. He was always like, shout out YouTube and stuff. He knew you were going to. He might watch your stuff.

Yeah, but he was like cool. And then like when the police officers would like take down the sign, he's like, we're really taking down that sign? He's like, well, yeah, it's pissing him off. He's like, yeah, but that's not illegal. Yeah. And he's like, are we really take? And he's like, yeah.

And so he's like the only one that was like trying to like talk kind of like what you were saying, like talk back to him. Probably confused. Yeah, he seemed like he was like a younger guy, you know, so he probably had more sense in him, I guess. He hasn't been brainwashed by the police department yet. I've been there. I'm making a difference

So Hearts and minds Harts and minds Hey You talk about hearts and minds Oh I know So what we call a failure drill I do want to be fair

And like say he was pretty cool You know Yeah So Well you spoke highly Like anytime we've talked You still spoke highly It's like

It was your first experience of like Oh what What is this You're not used to Target it Not used to being a criminal And being arrested Yeah

Yeah, normally I'm on the other side, you know. You're arresting them. Arrest this, man. Yeah, yeah, that's usually what's saying. All the time. It's his other channel. I will say this, man. It's, it's watching this, like I said, and I know I've said it a million times,

but I'm going to keep saying it because I need to distance myself from this case for legal reasons. But being on the outside looking in, watching how you carry yourself, it's impressive. It is, it's very impressive because you're not. by emotion, you're not led by, you know, revenge or being vengeful against bricks and mini-figs. You're not vengeful against the police department. You want the right thing to be done. You want a peaceful resolution. And for me, going into the worst situation imaginable and looking at the facts and all the information you've been given personally, I want the most peaceful

resolution possible. And the fact that that's the goal for you guys. Which is the chicken dance? That would be peaceful, right? I do. No one gets hurt. I'm going to, at this point, I'm going to do the chicken dance. We're all going to.

It might be more people. We're going to join everyone. Everyone's going to be happier. Yeah. This is going to elevate people. Yeah, this is going to make everyone super happy. I'll do it with them.

You'll do it with them. Yeah, of course I'll do it with them. Tell them they need to hire you as a police officer and give you law enforcement credentials. I, you know what? That's not legal advice.

I need to, I need to say that. No one gets hurt. Ben is like a legal officer. Officer Ben. Oh my. God. What do we have? We didn't get to talk about much, but like these videos that are coming out, your three and your four, I would love to know more about that because I think that's going to be very important to these stories. The third video is I made it a little bit longer. It was going to be only 20 minutes long and I made it about 40, 45 minutes long.

I can't wait to watch just because it's like I have extra time now, you know, I'm not going to like just sit around and like take a vacation. I'm going to just keep grinding, you know? So it's like, hey, double the length. So we made it. from 20 minutes to 40 minutes. Let's go. Just adding extra stuff in. It's all about a big part of it's about the inventory list because that could clear this whole thing up, right? So if... Oh, Andrew, yeah.

So bricks and mini figs is saying Crystal stole all the Legos. And we can... Who is Crystal? The previous owner. So when Bricks and Mini Figs took over the store, Crystal was the one who had the Legos. So they said, Crystal knew we were coming and stole all the Legos before we had a chance to take over the Lego.

the store. So we didn't actually take over any Legos. And we can prove this with our inventory list because we took an inventory when we showed up. And so I'm like, okay, can you send us the inventory? They're like, yeah, for sure. And we're like, okay. And they're like, we'll send it to you. And then, well, I guess that's what Brian said originally. And they're like, okay, and like, it's been like 16 days now. Can we have the inventory? And they're like, oh, yeah, we'll get it to you. And he's like, okay. Like, a couple months go by, can we have the inventory, you know? And then they have a lawyer come by and they're like, actually, Actually, we declare this matter closed, we're not going to send you anything.

And so then I go in there. I'm like, hey, can we have the inventory? And Ammon McNeff, the CEO is like, yeah, we can give you guys the inventory. I'm like, oh, sweet. He's like, we already gave Brian the inventory. I'm like, actually that brought you didn't give Brian the inventory. But if you give it to him, he'll stop it. That's like all he wants.

Like if you give us the inventory, we'll stop all this. We'll like, we'll stop bugging you guys, you know? And he's like, okay. And he just is basically stalling for like, that's like kind of half the video is just like us trying, like, going to like extreme lengths to get this inventory. Did they get, did you get the inventory eventually? So he told me he would send it to me and he said, look out for your email. We will give it to you.

And what he said is if you ask for this inventory list one more time, we will report this to the criminal authorities and the police will take care of it after this. And he said, this will be our final message. We will not talk about this any further. So they claim that they can clear all this up if they give us the inventory. So now we're not even asking for the Legos. We're just asking for this inventory list. Funny thing on this too.

Here's a few questions regarding it. Wait, really funny thing on this. Do you have the original consignment from? Yes. So funny thing on this. So Aiman, Amon obviously knows about all this.

And they sent that email saying like, nope, this is the last message we're going to send. Like, this is like you're not going to get it basically, right? And so Aiman also has went on multiple different. Yeah. And then he goes on Fox News afterwards.

He'll go, he'll talk on like podcasts. He'll go live stream. We're trying to make Brian right. We want to make right by him. We're trying to work with him. We're trying to give him this inventory. He just doesn't want the inventory list.

And also we're trying to give him back the Lego sets, but he doesn't want to accept them. And then also, one last thing on this, he's saying all this, yet they're turning around and suing him for $1.3 million. Like, what? It doesn't make any sense. We've said it before. It's this dude goes on live streams. Goes on. Dude, the simple fact he went on coffee zill, which I want to know that reaction of it, like, holy shit, coffee zill.

just did a video on us, but him getting caught and lied during it. It's like, there's no U-Haul. Well, oh, that you-ho. That's a different you-haul than the one that I thought wasn't there. And it's happened every time is I'm lied, I'm caught and lie, I say

something else in order to change it allegedly just in case. But, yeah, like, that's the inventory list or any of this stuff, so you have half the video dealing with that. The other half is kind of about we try to always in a reverse card what their strategy is to us.

So their strategy is I walk in there. So I walk in and say, hey, you guys, we do the easy wear or the hard way. And basically, Ammon calls the police and he's like, hey, Ben said if I don't give him the Legos back right now, he's going to burn down the whole building and shoot everyone inside. And I have him on video saying that to the police officers, they gave that to us in discovery for the body cam. Holy shit. Wait, so you have.

I have video of him lying to the police about, false threats that I made. Okay, that's a good question. So, my boy. What is that? Just for that quick segment, what they have is lying to the police on camera. Yeah. So at that point, what you have is false report.

Yeah. I think in most jurisdictions it's going to be a misdemeanor, but. What if it says as an extent to that? Bombing, killing? Like, that's, I don't know. I don't know at what point it, it transcends into the felony realm, but at that point, you, at the very least, you have false report to a police or a law enforcement agency. And if they have no ground to standoff,

they're not providing evidence. Well, I'll get to there. So at this point, we say, well, let's unner reverse them. If their strategy is to get us arrested before our documentary comes out, let's get them arrested before they get us arrested, you know? Yeah. So like, let's, let's get them arrested before they do the thing against us, you know? So I call the police. And I, I go to the police station, actually. I make a formal report and I say, Ammon McNeff made a false police report about me. He said I was going to make all these threats. He was saying the Legos were never even in the store. He's obstructing, which we learned in the previous week that the American Fork Police take obstruction very seriously. Like they arrested Sheldon just for locking his phone for obstruction.

That was, which was crazy. But yeah, that, literally that phone is his property and at that point had not been seized. It belongs to him. It is with within his right as far as I'm tracking to lock it. That's how seriously the police take obstruction in Utah. Yeah. So, so. So we were like, dude, if we, we, we are handing the police the biggest obstruction case they've ever seen, you know, they're going to go bananas over this obstruction case. We submit all the evidence that am committing a crime, which should be pretty black and white.

He submitted a crime, committed a crime. And then in his evidence to me, I committed, like said I was going to extort them, like give the layers back. I'm gonna burn down the building. And the police officer on the phone tells Amman, she's like, I don't really think there's any credibility of your case. But I do kind of like want to help you guys out. So maybe we can like come up with some other crimes.

I think like maybe commercial obstruction or something. Like did you have to ask commercial obstruction? Yeah, she's like, but for commercial obstruction. He's like, I found commercial obstruction can maybe like be something we could get them with. So like did you, but like we have to prove like, did you ask to ask him more than once to leave? And he's like, oh yeah. Like we had to ask him all the time. And so in Amman's police report,

I got discovery, he has zero evidence to have any of his claims. There's like two witness testimonies from other employees, which according to any scientist, a witness testimony is not evidence. So he has zero evidence in his case against me. And I submitted like tons of footage, like video evidence that was not manipulated. You can see there's no edits in it. And so I'm like, okay, if the police have to take on one case or the other, they're going to take on my case, right?

I have the evidence he doesn't. That's common sense. Three months later, I find out the police have actually not taken my case. They dropped my case for whatever reason. And now they have pursued Ammon's case against me. Wait, wait a second. They dropped your case? I've been calling them every week for the last month and they just don't answer.

And I'm like, hey, how's the case going? And I leave a voicemail. I'm like, hello. Was there any update or resolution to your case? I leave a voicemail every single week. Hello. Maybe that's lunch week. That's the wrong answer.

If you can give me a call back, I'd love to know how my case is going, and they just ghost me. Oh, no. And I have evidence, and they don't have evidence for me. It's like, why did they take the case with no evidence? They could be on a date. Like, why would the police be doing that? I don't know. Oh, my gosh.

All right. So for, like, like, that's... It seems like if you have to choose one case to the other, I would, if I was a police out for them, I would choose the case with the evidence, right? So, no matter what, if I close a case, I have to notify the complainant, the complainant, Well, maybe it's still going on. I don't know, but they're just not communicating with me. Via phone?

Yeah. Or via, like, mail, not email. It has to, it's got to be confirmed. I close your case because of this. So maybe it's open. It's probably open still then, but they're not talking about me. Yeah, but if they're not taking action. Yeah.

And you're a complainant. That's a problem. That's, that's absolutely a problem. Oh my gosh. Dude, I hope I don't get fired for talking about this stuff. I really, like, this is insane to me. It is insane. Yeah, I don't believe it either.

It's insane. I guess I get to make videos on it and show it to the world. Well, not now, but later. Yeah. Yeah, they silence me, so that sucks. July 1. It's July 1, right? We don't know.

Maybe. No, no. It's more than later going to be. Within a week, we will know what the date is. Well, I'm glad today is August 1st. They said there might be ways to expedite it and get it sooner rather than, you know what I mean? So what happened with video for, like in. So that one we're still kind of working on.

What direction is going? The direction is going. Yeah. Still much, much, much to be filmed. I would say right now we're just interviewing other franchise owners that, oh, sorry. Okay, so right now for episode four, we're just interviewing other franchise owners that have had their franchises stole by bricks and mini figs. And the more people I talk to, the more it seems like bricks and mini figs hired Josh and

Brandon in their specific roles is, it costs about. If you want to know, that is how close one is. Just so you guys know. It's literally up the street. When we went to brunch this morning, I was like, Hmm. Well, here's the thing. I recognize that sign.

That's bricks and mini-thing. We steal from old people. Oh, wait, that's a different store. Different company. Different company. So when a franchise makes a franchise, they have to upfront about $200,000, and it's their own company.

It's not corporate's business. It's their business. And they just get to, they pay a little 6% fee in order to use their brand because, oh, this brand is a recognized brand. This is a trustworthy brand. I am paying them to be trustworthy, yeah, to have a trustworthy brand associated with my store,

but it's still their store that they built with their, a lot of times, their life savings. So what corporate does is they write in the franchise agreement, if you break any of these rules, we can take your thing. And it's kind of like, you know how police officers will say, show me the person, I'll tell you the crime, you know? So it's basically the same thing. I've never said that.

But it's a common. I'm saying, you know. Sounds like profile. Maybe you don't say it, but some people... Ultra patterns is what we call it. But the corporation will say the same thing. So they say, show me the franchise, I'll show you the crime, you know? And they go and be like, oh, you were rude to this customer at one time?

Okay, we could take over your store, you know? And they'll take the whole $200,000 store and steal, and then they'll say, hey. How many times does this happen? And then they stand there with their arms crossed many, many, many times. And they say Josh and Brandon, it's all. always Josh and Brandon that come down, they say, hey, we're taking your store. If you want it back, you can sue us, but it's going to cost you way more than what your store is worth. It's always a dude named Brandon.

And don't trust Brandon. And so basically, and a lot of these franchise owners are telling me, they're like, I wanted to sue them, but I spent my life savings on the store. I couldn't afford a lawyer. And now they have my life savings. They can afford the best lawyers ever. So they steal their stuff, use their stuff to pay lawyers to steal their stuff. And then this purse that they steal from can't fight them back because they already stole their life savings. So essentially, so essentially it's the same thing that's happening with Crystal, but with many other franchise owners.

Yeah. Yeah. And now what has from. So it's basically a scheme to just make steal money. Yeah. Well, still business. What have you seen so far? What's some of these that shocked you where you're like, holy shit, they took your company because you gave an example.

You're rude to a customer, but what once have you seen? So one, there was, uh, he was in Florida. He had a hurricane that came through. And he was like, shoot, like a lot of businesses are going out of store. Like, a lot of stores are going out of business. And he's like, I'm going to need to get an investor, you know, because otherwise I'm going to have to close down. However, getting an investor goes against the franchise agreement.

They took his whole store. And also, he got permission to get an investor too, which is the, so he asked corporate if he's allowed to get an investor. They said, yep. And so he, he, he, played by the rules, but he broke the franchise agreement, even though he got permission. And, oh, we get to take your whole store now.

And that's life savings. Once you break that agreement, it's, the gloves come off, man. It's why I'm so, I don't want people to just sign stuff because you're like, oh, they have my back without realizing, oh, shit, because bricks and mini figs goes in. They're like, oh, hey, we got your back. Hey, yeah, sign this. Hey, yeah, dude, you can get an investor and immediately. Yeah.

The way I would like to end. episode four. We haven't started on this yet, but I mean, I guess we started it, we're working on it. I want to get all the franchise owners that are pissed off at corporate and set them up with lawyers to suit, do a class action against corporate for destroying their brain. Because they're paying 6% to have a trustworthy brand associated with their company, right? So they're paying money to get like this good brand recognition when right now because of corporate's actions. they're paying money to have a brand that makes them look worse. They would have been better off just having like, oh, the Lego store, you know?

So they're paying money to have a brand that makes their store worse. So that's all corporate's fault. So I think the franchises should be entitled to the money that corporate's hurting them. And so a lot of people are like, it's even weird. Like a lot of people are coming out and saying like, oh, Ben, this is all your fault. Like you're hurting all these innocent franchises, you know. But it's like, no, I'm not hurting these franchises. I'm just holding up a spotlight to corporate

that's hurting the franchises, you know? And so I think this would... I think this would be a good way to actually be like, hey, like the franchises have been hurt. Like, actually, let's help them, you know? Kind of like, corporate, like, because that was the whole thing with Bryant's, like, corporate screwing over this, like, innocent person.

Let's help them, you know? So if corporate's hurting all these instant franchises, let's help them, you know? Let's set them up with all lawyers. Like, I'll set that up for... I'll get a team to set that up for them. and it'll be sick, you know, and we'll help all the innocent franchises out, and it'll be awesome. I did.

We can see if you like this idea, the money, and depending on what Brian wants to do, it is, hey, the extra money goes towards this class. Oh, yeah, that'd be awesome, yeah. I'm super down with that. That puts everything together because now it's like, hey, he got his, but now he's helping everyone else that might be suffering from the same situation. That's the best idea I've ever heard. Oh, my gosh. That's sick. Yeah, because we're kind of wondering.

Oh, I think with all it's extra money, you know. Yeah, that's awesome. Now you got it all covered under one and it all ties in. And you guys walk out looking like rock stars because, again, you're like, I don't want the money. I just want to help people. I don't know. And that's what the rock stars. It's you're not like, I'm in it for the money. You're like, no, now I'm helping all these people with that.

And so is Brian. Like he got his. He only wanted his. Yeah, he just wants the money back that they lost, you know? Like he doesn't want to make, he doesn't want to make anything from this, you know? I am for that. And now when was. like three and four supposed to be released until you got hit with the TRO?

It was pretty much the day that, like everything was... Well, maybe three. Three before it's getting to work on. Three was finished. We were just waiting on some animations, I guess, because the animations take forever, because they literally hand draw like every frame. Like it's like literal like animations.

It takes a really long time. Like they work really hard and it just takes so long. Yeah, because I do like, and I will always pay confidence to your content because homeboy is very talented. First thing I said on the phone. I was like, dude, you are so good at telling a story and then visually showing that story at the same time. And it's a rare thing.

So that's what I was like, dude, talent, talent, my man. If I would have known that they would have served me by email. So I actually made part two on YouTube live because I was like, oh, they might be serving me. Like I got to just post on YouTube so don't get like screwed by this like TRO. And then I was like, I mean, it would have been like any day, you know, like I was getting out episode three. and then I guess, yeah.

And so I was like, oh, I guess let's make it longer, you know. So I just haven't stopped, like, working and editing. I've just still been doing it. It just is now a longer video, I guess. So now instead of 20 minutes, it's like 40, 45 minutes. So when is the, I mean, I guess this might seem obvious to a lot, but like, when is the end of like this series? Like once what is accomplished?

Once they do the chicken dance. Yeah. No, okay, we've been telling me more. So Brian got made whole, but like now are you wanting to take down the police department? Are you wanting Bricks and Middhigs? No, I want to take them down. I just wanted to say they're sorry and have them never do it again. Okay, so police department is saying sorry and never doing it again.

And then Bricks and minifigs, what? Just say, hey, we're sorry, we'll never do it again. Okay, so they can't do it again, you know? And because if they do, then we'll keep making videos about it, you know? But, yeah, though, just, I mean, because bricks and minifigs isn't a bad company on like, in theory, you know? Like in theory like oh we're gonna Resel people's like like inflections like that sounds cool I guess you know It's just they're like screwing people over there are stealing people's innocent franchises and stuff and that sucks like

And then they're stealing from old people. That's not good It's bad no it's just the level of a corporate it sucks that that is the owners doing that shit to People that are paying their bills essentially Yeah, it's just taking a portion and you're like mother Fuck. God dang. So what was out of everything, all the episodes, everything you experienced, what was the craziest part to you personally? Oh, getting swatted for stealing the Legos. It just makes, still makes no sense to me. That's like still the only part where I'm just like, what, like, how did that happen? What was going through your mind when you were in the back of the cop car and you were just like sitting there? Just like, I hope, like, how am I going to get this footage? Like, how do I get this? Because the, the,

the video we filmed previously with like the giant dick, you know? Like I requested that footage I couldn't get it, you know? Like they all had body cams. Like it was a 10 day standoff with the police that we had. There had been more honestly,

you looked, like I felt so bad. Like when I was looking at that, I was like, holy shit. Like you look really, really sad. Like there had been other thoughts than like you thinking, okay, how do I get the footage? Like, were you like,

dang, I can't believe this happened. Like, I'm just sitting in the back. Like, what was the first worry? No, I wasn't really worried. I was kind of just confused. I was like trying to figure it out, you know. It was just, it seems like I wasn't like,

almost like Rick and Morty International Cable, you know? Like it felt like I wasn't like on Earth anymore, you know? Because I've always been taught, like, the police are here to help us. Yeah. I've always been told like the, it's like in a world where the police are here to take down the bad guy and protect the good, or take down the good guy and protect the bad guy, you know. I feel like it's like an episode of like interdimensional cable, you know?

I was like, am I on Earth right now? Dang, so it felt surreal. Like you were like, what the heck? is going on. Like, why is this happening? Yeah, because I've always been taught that the police, like, if you, good, bad, bad, bad. Yeah, that's like how I grew up, you know? Yeah.

And so now I'm in a world where it's like, good guys, bad. Cops, bad. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so I was like, like, what is this? You know, I was just confused. That would suck because it does affect you on a personal level with, you feel like you're crazy or you're gasoline. You start gaslight.

Yeah, I felt like it was being gaslight. Yeah. Fuck. Did I do something wrong? Uh-oh, maybe I was in the wrong. Are they? And that's one question I did have written down. It's at any point we're like, maybe I was lied to and these guys are actually, wait, what's going on?

Who's bad here? Yeah, did you ever question that? That's like, who's bad? Even with the evidence you were given by Brian and the family, were you ever like, wait, what the, because of the actions? Did you ever? It's pretty obvious that Bricks and mini figures is bad. 100%. 100%.

I tried to give them the easy way and the benefit of the doubt, you know, and they didn't want that. So at that point, I was kind of like, okay. But Brian, I've never thought it's bad because he got his stuff. How could he be bad? You know, unless he was, like, lying about things, which, I mean, everything he said is kind of tracked out. But the gas, there's still the doubt. I think that can still so doubt with you when you're getting arrested. All this is happening.

You're like, maybe he did lie to me. Even though, come to find out, it's like, everything is documented. It's still f*** you up in the head. I don't know. Do you think Crystal has anything to do? with any of the missing Legos or Brian not getting paid back, even like a portion of it. You think so?

Is it possible? I want to like just touch on this because a lot of people are thinking about this as well. Is it possible that the original consignment was not communicated to the current owners? No. That's on camera. And it's, and it's, they claim that it's not, but it's on camera. Wait, wait, so with Crystal, so why do you think probably?

Because I think Coffeezilla did a thing where maybe she still a little bit. She's the previous owner before they got taken over. However, and Crystal will even admit that maybe she was short on some of the sets, you know. But her response to that is I was never given an inventory list by corporate, which I asked for in order to make Brian Hall. But why sign for it if you don't have an inventory list? Because she got kicked out of the store. Oh, so Crystal did have an inventory list. And according to her inventory list, corporate says,

so this is in the third video. I'll repeat it verbatim. She says, what Brian showed up with me? When Brian came to the store, he handed me a spreadsheet. And you know what? I could go to McDonald's and hand them a spreadsheet and say, I own all your ice cream machines because my spreadsheet says so. He said, a spreadsheet is not valid proof.

I don't want to get into the McDonald's ice cream machines. That was Crystal's inventory list that you were. describing. So that wasn't just a mystery. I don't like that. It was it was Crystal's inventory list but Amman's claiming that Crystal lied on the inventory list and Crystal took off with all his sets, which maybe she underpaid him a couple. I don't think she's like stealing a set on purpose. Like maybe she was like an unorganized, you know, and and underpaid him. I don't, I don't, yeah. Maybe she was. I don't like we don't have proof one way or the other. Maybe like if he's been caught so many lies. That's the problem is the guys now that are in charge.

I've just been caught lie after. You lie once. You're cooked. What's for sure is that corporate definitely did steal a big portion of Brian's Lego sets because they were in the store metadata time stamped when she was getting kicked out of the store and you did not see them on her when she's going to kick out of the store, meaning they were still in the store, meaning we don't have proof crystal stole something. Maybe she did, maybe she did it, but we do have proof corporate did.

Oh, would a tangled web we weave when we start to lie and deceive. Wait, can we just all, like, do the chicken dance, like, music? We just will at our voices. You won't get a correction. I'm not doing that. I'll do that's weird. And then, and then we can, you know, do the dance to the voice of our, the kazoo. You came in.

Okay. Really? Dude, there are so many, like, dude, the algorithm, go algorithm. No matter how we algorithm, the algorithm. Happy birthday was illegal. That's why. All right. All right.

Is copyright? Not now. It just passed, but that's why every restaurant. Yeah, restaurant. have their own version of happy birthday because you were not allowed to fuck with that. That's crazy. I think...

What are these guys? Daniel J. Happy birthday? You're like, I was just a random happy birthday dude. He just comes into some like random hooters. Like, you guys are singing my songs. Check. Lawsuit.

No. Start singing the Stevie Wonder version. Not on my birthday. What do you ruin this day? Oh no. I need to hit up Reckless Ben. Oh my gosh. Dude, again, I am, it's been an absolute pleasure having you guys on.

Thanks for having to something. That was. It's fun. It's nice talking to like actual law enforcement about this. I'm absolutely, I am 100% after two nights ago. I'm a fan of what you guys are doing and I look forward to finding and seeing a peaceful resolution. So thank you for the work you're putting in. You're laying on the wire.

You're sacrificing yourself. You've been arrested, which is crazy to me. But, you know, I'm, I'm a fan. Oh, thank you so much. Absolutely. Oh, yeah, it's been great. Thanks for having us. Dude, keep kicking ass.

I'm super happy for you guys, and however we can help, all of them can help. Just let us know because it is, like, you find the good fight. And the shit you've been through, especially, it's just, it sucks. Well, how can you guys help?

Let's pressure them and taking away our TRO, because that sucks. Yeah. Figure well, we can't until after this episode. Well, how do we do that with it? You're right. It would dope. never seen anybody speak out against their own restraining order. But guess what? I support it.

So here it is. Here we are. It's so much. I've never heard of bricks and mini figs in my entire life until this thing. And I feel like I'm in the majority. Yeah. After this, their name is is pricks and mini dicks. You guys. Why did you save that for the end? Put that on a shirt. No, I want to make that a shirt actually. I have actually like a list of ideas to have like a shirt. That's one of them. And three weeks, how many subs did you climb on YouTube? Bro, like 900K or million? Jesus, Christ. So we keep this up, we'll be at 100 million by next year.

We're going to keep this. If we continue the lawsuit. Now we'll figure it out. No, we won't win. It'll be sick. I like the point, but you are positive. Toxic positivity. Well, we didn't do anything wrong.

Why would we lose for something we didn't do? That makes no sense. Sweet summer tryout. They can't just say like, hey, this guy threatened to murder everyone that we say, hey, we have video that we didn't. And we still lose. The justice system will definitely be on our side. Yeah. It has never failed before.

All you guys, I wanted to talk about his cool slackline career. That's right, Tony, he DM me to ask about that. He's like, bro, really? Huge into the slackline scene. Really? I'm never done it. I thought it was really cool. I was like, why don't we talk about that for a night?

You do crazy as true. I will just say really quick. The double backflips. off of. He's crazy. He's really good at that. He's really good at that. He's really good at them. He's controlled

chaos. That's how I'm saying we should throw him at our enemies. Yeah, I'm down. Let's do it. See? God, Nick with a binder and Ben with. It's the meme of the army guys looking at the crate that says weaponized battle monkeys. We got Ben in the crate.

Destroying people. Like, fuck, yeah. Holy shit. Well, Jesus Christ. What a fucking. Could you imagine, being their lawyer. Like he did what? That wasn't an

option. I imagine it's kind of like being my consultant. Yeah. Well, Ben and Victor, where can the people find you on the internet? Reckless Ben and Victor's World. Victor's World, yeah.

I'm going to be known for Victor's World. I'm going to hate this. Whatever, it's cool. Victor's World. He leaves women into the woods. Victor's World. Go all best, though. I'm starting to realize why rifles were used in the search War. Hard catch of Brandon again in the woods. I won, guys.

Cody, you want to close a sack, you beautiful son of a bitch. Thank you guys for joining the unsuscribed podcast. I was joined today by Eli Double Tap, Nick the Fat Electrician, Reckless Ben, Victor from Victor's World. Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator. Thank you so much for being there.