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Episode Date: June 7, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The army's trying to bring back the XN25. Hell yeah. Should have never been canceled in the first place. We're only at a level two on the racism. We gotta get those numbers. Inward. What? Oh!
Starting point is 00:00:10 They jerked themselves off to death. They became like the 505th Cooning Brigade. I'm in such a jerked shirt. Say hi to Eli. He's racially ambiguous. Brandon. His hair is fucking fabulous. Donut.
Starting point is 00:00:31 A dog joke disposition. There's a fat electrician. Welcome to unsubscribe. Doctors. Doctors. Everyone ready? Three, two, one. Hi, everyone.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Welcome to the unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined here today by Eli Double Tap. Chris Cappy from Cappy Army. Nick Davis from tactically acquired. And I am donut operator. Donut. What an amazing intro. So Black Nick, great to meet you.
Starting point is 00:01:03 It's good to meet you. It's not the first time we met. I know. It's good shit. We met in the, actually, the bus on the way back from, um, Grinchet. And we got the nerd out on cameras. Yeah, I know. Black Nick, great to meet you.
Starting point is 00:01:17 White Nick, great to meet you. Hi. God, it's like looking in a mirror. It's very, so much. It's like, hmm. It's uncanny. I love how we were just super. I mean, super happy you're here.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I'm very stoked you're here. This is just going to be a nerd autism episode of war history. Got a lot of questions for you. Oh, God. And then her point, Nick over here. Hi. Good time. How was it?
Starting point is 00:01:47 How was filming last night? It was good. That was fine. I got blood all over me. It washed out, though, except for on my boots, which, you know, thankfully they were, like, new a week ago. So that works out. typical so you did uh what what were you filming yesterday oh we had a skit for the new pepperbox thing i had an idea i've been i've talked about it before i've just the same skit i've talked
Starting point is 00:02:11 about forever it's like the concept is like red dawn china invades paratroopers come down whatever me and like a couple other american soldiers get captured we're getting interrogated and then i'm not going to say exactly how it happens but basically the chinese are very excited about their upcoming offensive because they believe that the area that they're going to be invading next is going to be a lot easier than the combat they've seen so far
Starting point is 00:02:37 because this area of the country has the strictest gun loss. And then we're all tied up with like blood all over us and then the Asian guys like, it's called Chicago and we just all start dying laughing. The safe is a place.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Easy. It's called a Chicago. Doing a Japanese accent it for the Chinese people, but whatever. Potato, potato. I'm, dude, I'm so stoked for that one. I thought New Jersey was going to catch a stray with that one. It's never too late.
Starting point is 00:03:05 It's never a stray when it comes to New Jersey. It was intentional. An aimed shot. A well-placed. You're not catching strays. You were catching what was thrown. The pitcher's aim in there. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Well, I'm fucking stoked for that. Oh, yeah, we got the new double-tap T. It came out, what, two weeks ago now, and then is the new one out? We have goth girl spit. Should be launching also today when you watch this, which is the most wild energy drink. It's pretty rad. It's really dope. It's called got got a goth girl spit.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yes. It brings back memories. It reminds me of high school. Yeah. Yeah. No one else went through a goth girl phase. No, that's. Did you just dressed up one like one?
Starting point is 00:03:56 That was a different thing. Tell us more about it. I just kicked capies of goth girl. In high school, I had a little bit of a thing for the goth women. Yeah, there's something very dark about them. Deadly problems. Yes, yes, exactly. And that, the low self-esteem, I guess, is kind of what allowed me to get in there in the first place.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Well, I targeted them. They were my prey. They were weak. It is, didn't that face stopped for like 10 or 20? years. Yeah. It's, it's, it's an economic recession indicator. This is my going theory. Wait. You got to go back before 2008. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Whenever the goss starts showing back up and baggy pants are in style, the economy's about to crash. Well, it's coming back again now. I know. That's what I'm saying. The housing market's going to crash in any minute. We've got three
Starting point is 00:04:48 years. Like I saw a pair of genecos for the first time in 15 years the other day. I was like, that's not fucking good. I'm about to short real estate. Yeah. Hot topics blowing up. There's topics right through the roof. Oh, no. I'm telling you right now, as soon as the juggalo's become popular again, we've got like four. We've got four minutes. If you see parties out in the woods and like a dim fire somewhere and they're all chanting their juggalo shit, you know, it's time.
Starting point is 00:05:14 You know, it's the days are numbered. This is trails. Oh, juggalo's. We love you. That's a hell of a theory. I'm just saying. I mean, my history repeats itself. Although I did have the, I'm, I'm, toot my own horn here.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I made the greatest call of all time on Twitter last year and it came true. It was creepy. Which one was? In 2024, in like November or like early 2025, there was an article that orcas are wearing fish on their heads again. Which was a phenomenon that we haven't seen since, I forget the year was like 1985 or whatever the fuck it was. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:05:57 1985, orcas are wearing fish on their heads. The president is a Republican former TV celebrity. The U.S. Navy destroys all of Iran's Navy. And then I was like, 2025, the orcas are wearing fish on their heads.
Starting point is 00:06:12 The president is a Republican former celebrity. Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. And then six months later, we destroyed Iran's Navy. I was like, yeah. Oh! Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:23 It was the greatest call of all time. It would be a great cows you bet. It really does feel like the 80s is coming back again. I mean, we're all back in South America again, invading countries there, doing basically like Panama version 2, electric bugaloo.
Starting point is 00:06:41 We should take it back. All of it. Unpopular opinion, we should take back Panama. I'm just saying, I'm for it. I think less people think that's unpopular. I think they don't want to say it out loud. No, no, no. we dug the giant trench it's ours
Starting point is 00:06:55 yes just saying how is now with or I guess on your side because that's what you deep dive into what are you seeing with the cartel and then the US soldiers just did a video on kidnapping or assassinating the cartel stuff is crazy
Starting point is 00:07:10 they just so CIA ground branch is in Mexico right now just murking dudes just blowing up cartel vehicles they have it on camera yeah so I'm flipping through Instagram the other day and this video comes up and, you know, casually a car explodes. And then it says, you know, U.S. officials say that they have CIA paramilitary in Mexico killing cartel bosses.
Starting point is 00:07:37 It's fucking wild. Hell yeah. Yeah. Right? Hell yeah. So this is like 70s, 80s, this is what we did, right? Well, the beautiful thing about the 80s and Latin America was that we were just everywhere. We were, yeah, the CIA had like death squads everywhere.
Starting point is 00:07:52 El Salvador, they were just killing fields of bodies. And we're back at it again. You know, because every time, you had to go back out of mow the grass every once in a while. And that's what they're doing it smarter now. They're doing it a little bit smarter. Instead of, yeah, instead of like wholesale killing and arming groups that might have blowback, just go and they take out one cartel boss. And, yeah, a little more surgical.
Starting point is 00:08:22 C-A-As up here playing guess who. Sicario, which is crazy. You have some of those bosses. They don't even know what they look like. I always find that fascinating. They hid themselves that well throughout their life that they just don't have pictures of them. You want to hear a hilarious story of how they killed El Mentiono.
Starting point is 00:08:42 So Al-Mancho was the biggest cartel boss in Mexico. They killed them like two months ago. And the way they did it was the CIA, because they don't know what he still looks like. have gotten facial reconstructive surgery. We don't know what he looks like. But they do know. We got him.
Starting point is 00:08:58 We got him. After the drone hits, bad news. We still don't know what he looked like. They've definitely one of those five bodies. They went through, he was meeting up with an only fan chick. And they triangulated his position based on going through the metadata of him talking to this only fans girl to have her come and meet him. We don't know what this guy looks like.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I bet he likes to figure it out. One thing, we are for sure on. And that, they just blow up the fuck. Like, how did that raid go down? So the great thing about the way we do operations, a little bit smarter now is we work through, buy with and through, we work through the Mexican military.
Starting point is 00:09:42 So they send in the Mexican Marines to kill everybody and they advise it. Oh, no shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's still like, hey, we're not doing it. I mean, it's like the end of Iraq where it's like, hey, IA's taking over or these little communities hand off. It's exactly that. We took the Iraq-Afghanistan model and we're just applying it to Mexico.
Starting point is 00:10:06 It worked really good both times. Especially when we left. Yeah, I don't remember a single problem with that. I sent you something. That's what the CIA was like. As soon as the only fans girl showed up. You're going to make me cowabonga? Dude, what the...
Starting point is 00:10:32 I'm surprised they're still doing that tactic, though. It's like, this hasn't worked yet, so what's going to change this time? We'll back them. I mean, not to address the whore in the room, but is the only fan's girl okay? You know, I don't actually know. Yeah, I don't think she died. I don't know for certain, but hopefully. Did she know any of this was going on?
Starting point is 00:10:53 Two girls, one drone. She didn't even know. They followed her to the lake house and, uh, talk about an asset. Yeah, I'm gonna go see this guy. Here's my location. Just make sure, like call me in five minutes. Calls back at five minutes. Doesn't answer.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Then trying to explain that to anyone after the fact. How'd your date go? people. That's the future of warfare is just exploiting dudes trying to get laid. That's what the Ukrainians were doing to the Russians. Yes. They were all getting on there pretending to be hot girls on Instagram and shit. We've done this every time.
Starting point is 00:11:35 World War, like Cold War. I know, but it's just so much easier now with cell phones because like that they were literally getting all the Russian soldiers to be like messaging these girls on Instagram. And they're like, oh, when are you coming through my town? Maybe we can meet up, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, oh, my unit will be there in three days. Now they're tracking troop movements because some dudes trying to get laid. They're sending like Haimars fucking U.S.
Starting point is 00:11:57 provided missiles right to their coordinate based on that. It's wild. And it doesn't matter if you tell them not to do this because it's dudes. And when you see even the catfish, the guys that get catfish, you're like, oh, like, doesn't fucking matter how obvious this is a ploy. They're going to fall for it. Well, yeah, I'm going to meet her in two years. It's easy to me to pay money. It's easy for me to laugh at them, but if I'm a Russian soldier, I would hunt, and I'm like 20 or 100% sure.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I'm going to get missled. I'm going to match with that chick and be like, yeah, I'm going to be here tomorrow. The other unfair part that like, I don't think I've ever seen anybody bring this aspect up, whereas like if we actually did go to war with Russia or China or any of these adversaries, our troops have a massive advantage at spotting bullshit because of internet literacy because they've dealt with. with it their whole lives because we have unrestricted internet. Oh, I mean, yeah. Imagine us trying to fuck with Chinese soldiers that have had extremely strict censored internet their entire lives. They're falling for level one scams out of the gate because they've never seen it before.
Starting point is 00:13:07 You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like no different than what North Korea with, um, when they got access to the internet. Tell me more. When they first got access to the internet, North Korean soldiers out of Russia. Oh yeah. And they like they jerked themselves off to death. They were to do they just went on a masturbation.
Starting point is 00:13:24 They would they like they became like the fucking 55th gooning brigade. They're such a shirt. The 50th goony brigade. Dude they had to like cut phone restrict. They like started restricting phones because they're like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. They sent the North Koreans to curse and they couldn't handle it. They couldn't. It was taking them out more than the Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Cranians. Oh, my God. But like, okay, so. So much proof on that's all unique. It's still like if World War III happens. I'm sorry. It's literally like, like when, you know, the colonists or whatever come over. And they're like, our immune system can't handle these new diseases.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Boom. It's that, but it's the internet. Just like, that's what it is. It is more of a disease. Yes. They're evading. What do we do? Turn on the internet.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Give it free, open internet. We don't need nukes. We have fucking Starlink. We just hand out. Let's give the enemy free internet. What? Why? We're helping them.
Starting point is 00:14:28 No, we're not. Drop some iPads, some phones, and free internet. It has the password on the back for the Wi-Fi. Connect here. Do this. Picture of. I'm underneath it. Have you ever woken up and felt the immediate need for a nicotine pouch slash and
Starting point is 00:14:49 slash or a cup of coffee? I can't talk. It says no Nick on the can. Yeah, no Nick allowed. Be gone. How many pouches, cups of coffee, or energy drinks do you need throughout the day to stop from crashing? Too many! Did those things cause anxiety or make you feel on edge? I love edging. Well, that's why using Ultra pouches can be a game changer for your energy levels.
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Starting point is 00:16:09 Oh, bro. That, like, you know how they, they basically knighted a bunch of Silicon Valley dudes and they made them. Yeah, I was there for that. Oh, so you, I was there. Right. I was in the room when it happened.
Starting point is 00:16:20 And they made them generals or some shit? Lieutenant colonels. Okay. So I wanted them to make us, like, lieutenant colonels of the Propaganda Brigade. We're calling in a group of specialists. Just complete goon squad of YouTubers walking in. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Slow motion. I trip. It's like Monsters Inc. When the scares are walking into the room in slow motion. Yep. The lieutenant colonel. things. We have no idea. Anything about that. We need
Starting point is 00:16:52 experts in propaganda. I got you. I know a guy. I mean, we could do some damage. Real fast. I would love nothing more than to pitch giving the enemy free internet and iPads to a room full of generals. I know this sounds crazy. They're
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Starting point is 00:17:50 How would you respond to that pitch? Oh, yeah. It's all about marketing. It's all about marketing. What do I get out of this? Sir, we're going to need $37 million for this, this mission. We came up on an entire company. Looked like they'd just been drained of life.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I don't know what happened. Did it suck you guys come through here? Straight mummify an entire army. There's tissues everywhere. No casings. It's just tissue. Wadded tissues. What is this?
Starting point is 00:18:26 You can see where grounds is. Oh. Grounds zero was. Yes. Our morale patch is just like the sploosh. Yeah. Yeah. It's just the splo.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Yeah. The three drops. Yes. You can do a like skill badges. Like you level up like basic branch. Mm-hmm. Keep going up. Expert.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Exper spluge. God, that's. to skip by itself. Just walking up, turning around, vomiting. Whoa, what happened here? Don't go in. You don't want to see it.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Does that slow, like, walk in. One guy's like, eh. Turning in. Just drained. Whatever you do, don't put your nods on. You'll go blind. It's gone everywhere. Was this a concentration camp?
Starting point is 00:19:13 No. It's just jerked themselves off to this level. the archaeologists are digging up the bones like whatever a career field this man had he really used his right arm a lot more you can tell by the bone density on his right side so lack of calcium frank i just think archaeologists it's just this room as dude side by his side with a square object we have no idea what happened they seem to be grasping at something to save their lives well all also grasping their penis. Sir, why are they in a circle with each other?
Starting point is 00:19:55 They all. What are they doing there? A lit biscuit. A ritual from the 19th in the middle. Oh. I'm glad you guys are here. Black Nick. Why do we call you Black Nick, by the way?
Starting point is 00:20:12 Actually, introduce yourself. I need you guys to tell your story like. Storytime. Yeah, so Tatically Acquired, names Nick. I saw him doing something on YouTube. I was like, I could rip that off. So I love you so much. And I was like, that was it.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Had to wade through all the people talking shit. And now here we are. Sitting next to the OG Nick. I thought it was funny. So I brought him here. He even named his channel tactically acquired because he stole my shit. I know. He's always spoke so positive of you about that.
Starting point is 00:20:43 He's like, hey, you guys see this dude? We should have him on. I'm like, why can we look to it? I was like, yeah, if you're down, he's like, yeah, he's, fucking really good, but his name's Nick, he's black, and he does exactly my thing, and he admits to what he does.
Starting point is 00:20:58 That's funny. That's great. Capitalism. Dude, it's so much better to do that, because a lot of the times then you're honoring that person because you're like, dude, I love what you did, and it inspired me to do the same thing. Yeah. And then there is enough internet. Yeah. What's crazy is it's coming
Starting point is 00:21:15 full circle, because he helped me out, and I've got a guy who reached out to me, and I'm helping him out. that guy I told you back that you met it's the live show. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's awesome, dude. Oh, can you scoot your chair for it? Just to Smith.
Starting point is 00:21:29 No, no. Oh, no. Oh, back. There we go. Making sure those mics are good. No, my whole thing was, I was like, I watched one of his videos and I was like, because I was going to do a video on, I think it was Chuck. Chuck McWenny.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And I was like, every time I go to do a video, like, I'll do all my research. And then I'll go through and I'll watch all or most of the YouTube. videos on YouTube about that person just to like read the comments because the comments like if they fucked anything up the comments let them know so it's like I don't want to make the same mistake or the comments will be like I can't believe you didn't talk about this I'll be like well what the fuck is that sometimes it's a real thing that should be talked about sometimes it's just like a rumor whatever so like it gives me all the like I don't want to want to give the most of the story or whatever so I go to look at this Chuck Mawini and there's like three videos on him and one of
Starting point is 00:22:18 by him. And I watch his video. I was like, this motherfucker hit every talking point that I would have hit. This is bullshit. I just didn't even do the video after that. You hate this guy already.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Literally the first time it's ever happened because every time I go to do a video on a war hero, it's like, okay, here's the first one. Here's five other YouTubers that just watched that guy's video and regurgitated what he said. And it's just obvious. It's like,
Starting point is 00:22:42 okay, you read the Wikipedia page and that's fucking it. You didn't go read the fucking book. You didn't do any fucking read. search whatsoever. And it's like he was the first other YouTuber I'd ever come across. It was like, God damn it, this motherfucker knows what he's talking about and pisses me off. So then I like reached out and then started working with him more. Well, he commented on that video. I was driving down.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Shouldn't text. Don't text and drive. And I know. N-word. What? Like, like, Nick is the N-word. It's what you meant. I'm picking up what you're written down I got it No like I don't I don't know How if I not come up with the Nick is the N-word joke yet
Starting point is 00:23:27 I don't come up with that We're only at a level two on the racism We gotta get those numbers Okay No like it just popped up on my YouTube studio Like you know fat electrician comment And I'm just reading this The most hyped I've ever been
Starting point is 00:23:43 Just ever I bet He saw that hell this guy's going to be really good or really bad. I'm sure it was that feeling at first. Dude, the comment section, people talking on someone else's behalf, like, ripping off it. I have them on my phone. I've saved, I used to save all the native comments like David Goggins style, just looking at him.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I still have them in my phone. You guys are wild for that. I love it. It motivates me. 100%. Timu David Gagas. When did you get originally into like World War II history stuff? Was it from watching next videos or was it like old school history channel?
Starting point is 00:24:23 So I've been trying to do like something entrepreneur-wise for like 10 years and everything builds and builds. Like that's how I learned about cameras and shit. I used to do like fidget spinners and that's how I got into cameras and just all kinds of random stuff. Drop shipping. Fidget spinners? You say naturally it's a good open door for cameras. I got into fidget spinners like right like before they got hype. up and I was doing the only black dude that used a fidget spiel.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I was selling them. I was selling them. I was trying to think. I was like, I've never seen a black dude be like. First of all, first of all, now you have. I like that. I was like fidget spinners. Entrepreneurial journey and you're like this.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Look, they were the hot, because they were those fidget cubes like when they first came out the fidget. I was like, man, what's the next thing? It's fidget spinner. has Trump saying China China China China Yeah
Starting point is 00:25:19 Wait wait Wait this is how you got into World War II Oh no no Yeah Of course It's a circle Um Not like fucking
Starting point is 00:25:30 I told my wife I can cuss Alright anyway Why He's gonna cuss That's bad That's number one No like
Starting point is 00:25:38 So I started a YouTube channel With my wife It was a baking channel And then she didn't want to do that anymore. So then I was doing like a... Suddenly got a divorce now.
Starting point is 00:25:52 He's like, if you know what the YouTube with me? Why did I come on? It's over. Babe, they deleted the episode. Why? I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. It was going good and then it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:26:06 But then I did my own channel. I was trying to do like the whole motivational crap or whatever. And I didn't know what to do next in my wife. She said, stop trying to separate your military job from like a business, just lean into it. And that's when I ran across your stuff. And I was like, this doesn't suck. I really like this. So then I got into it.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I like this doesn't suck. Oh dude, I'm stealing it. Yeah. That's mine. 100%. So instead of bicycles. Oh, okay. No.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I was like, we'll see how long that joke takes. That registered. Just registered. You're in military too. So, like, as you're saying, you did officer. Yeah. And then how long were you in? What can you go into, how much depth can you promote that?
Starting point is 00:26:58 This is major blackneck. That's, thank you for your service. You're welcome. Like it's Brandon C too. Only the highest ring goes there. Is that what I'm feeling right now? Yeah. It's emanating from this chair.
Starting point is 00:27:13 You should run for Congress. Black Brandon I'll make that a thing No man I did all my stuff backwards I went to college first And then I went to Let me back up a little bit Girl I was dating for a long time
Starting point is 00:27:34 I thought I was going to marry this girl We broke up She had two things that she didn't want me to join the military Get tattoos This is the one with the cooking channel, right? This was before that This was before that, yeah But it was just
Starting point is 00:27:44 interesting. It was like, as soon as you broke up, I was like, well, I'm getting a tattoo. I'm drawing the military. That's, you're like, just immediately went to do that. What were you going to college for? Mechanical engineering. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:57 So I used to be a mechanical engineer before I went military full time. I'm not smart enough to be a mechanical engineer, by the way. Dude, that's crazy to math. Way smarter than me. That's the Bezos. And you're an engineer, right, in the military? Yeah, engineer also. So I went in to be a,
Starting point is 00:28:14 Different type of engineer. Yeah. Well, I wanted to blow stuff up. I just wanted to be a 12 Bravo. I wanted to go hunt IEDs. That's what I wanted to do. Oh, shit. And I hand the guy my paperwork.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Fun fact, the guy put me in the recruiter. He's still a friend of mine. But I handed my paperwork and he was like, oh, you have a four-year degree. If I thought about being officer? I was like, I guess. I don't know. What does that entail? You got to go to Fort Benning.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Okay. I had no idea what I was getting into. None. Yeah. That's, again, an injury. It fascinates me. Just the luck of the draw with the military shit. Because we've interviewed so many like Delta,
Starting point is 00:28:54 CAG, like tier one operators have done crazy shit. And 80% of the time, it's always, I had no idea. The recruiter asked if I wanted to be a Navy SEAL in the 1980s, had no idea what that was. Anyways, I Halo jumped out of a plane and saved Captain Phillips. He did not know what a Navy SEAL was. Like he was like, I didn't know what it was. I thought it sounded cool, though.
Starting point is 00:29:17 He's like, they showed me a video of them like doing some dirt bikes and cool shit. And I was like, yeah, it looks fun. Yeah. Like, fast forward 15 years. He's tier one Delta operator. It's like. Dev grew and he's the one that he did one of the shots, you know, on the. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:33 The boat. That's, that's, he was in command of the boat. That's interesting. That's so funny. Because Terry's like, I just Halo jumped into the ocean and board this boat. And they're like, okay, you're the captain now. He's like, what I don't know what the fuck. I don't know how to captain a ship like I'm here to shoot somebody.
Starting point is 00:29:50 What do you think? Because Navy, they're like, obviously he knows boats like, they're like, sailor. All the sailors. What do you want us to do? Set a heading? I don't know. Go right. I mean, Starboard.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I mean, I know some of those nautical terms. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. So you did, uh, Nate, or sorry, Army or Army? Army or? Yeah. Army.
Starting point is 00:30:14 And then you just, like in recruiter was like, oh, okay, you're going to go to Benning, go through leadership course. Yeah. Did you have to go to Ranger? No. So the only ones that have to do in the officer world, armor and infantry officers have to go through. Engineers, we have Sapper. Did you go through Sapper? So I had orders to go to Sapper school when I was at, so our version of AIT is called Bollick, basic officer leader course.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And I went to E. Bolick at Fort Lenderwood. I had orders to go. but I could not figure out how to manage my knee pain back then. So I just dropped out. I was like, I'm not going to go. I mean, a lot of the schools, it looks cool on paper. If you're staying in, you're trying to climb the ranks. But if that's not the overall goal.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Well, really, the reason I wanted to go is I wanted to learn more of the advanced demo or sapper school. But then fast forward a few years, that book is public domain, like the sapper book. Along with the, there's an improvised explosive book that's also like out there now too. And I was like, oh, so I don't have to go to Sapper school to learn this stuff. Yeah, but what if you could do it really tired and hungry? That's about what most of that training is. All training is that. I can do this, but can you do it on two hours of sleep for a week?
Starting point is 00:31:30 Starving. While you're constipated and hungry at the same time. And all your friends are judging you and grading you at the same time. Well, we yell at you. I don't, I think I don't know. Why am I doing this actually? We want to know you can handle the stress. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:47 We have no need to ever be that tired. We don't walk anywhere. We're armor. We don't walk anywhere. There's no point. We mechanized the way to go. Crunchies. I was happy to get in vehicles anytime we got the opportunity.
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Starting point is 00:33:57 Sleep better, stay cooler. This is a threat. So you, military, how long did you do that for a total? Oh, I'm still in. So I'm, I'm AGR, I'm active duty guard. Um, which, All that means is we have the same active duty requirements, but we do it with like a quarter or less of the staff. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:19 So like an S-1 shop in active duty might have, I don't know, 10 people in it, we have three. No sure. Oh, yeah. So after I got in the military, I did a, I was going to do a job reclass. So I didn't get called back. I was like, dude, all my friends are getting called back. So I was like, okay, I'm going to turn down Sarn. And then I'll get out.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And then I think three or four of my friends at that time and already got called back in that like two months after I've been out. I was like, oh, shit. They're calling back everyone right now. So I was like, okay, let me see what options I have. And I was like, oh, I can do a welding. I can just reclass as a welder for active or in act guard. Eli flipping through the job book. I think we're going to talk to be like.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Well, well, it's like a drywall with metal. I'm in. Yeah, exactly. Law mower, long mower, long mower. no word. Oh. It's welding. Instead of dry wall.
Starting point is 00:35:18 It's metal. Got this all day. So did that basic. And again, it was that I had to go to a school for it, which was the easiest. I love that school. I was like,
Starting point is 00:35:28 okay, this is dope. Then went to my unit. And it's, as you're saying, like tiny, tiny. Yeah. And I can't wait for the comment section now. Eli just said welding was easy on the internet.
Starting point is 00:35:40 They're going to be. They're going to hate you. I don't like corners. It's like someone through change on the steel. And that's it. Stacking less change. I love it. So did that and then showed up to the unit.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I was like, okay, this is nice and chill. Because everyone, there was like one dude that was a hoo-a. There was like an E-6 and he was just trying to be very hoo-a. And I was like, oh, calm down. I mean, like, don't. Yeah. Please don't. Guards are totally different vibe.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Yeah. It's totally different vibe. Okay. So that's what you're doing. And how long have you done that for now? I've been, I've been in the guard 13 years. But I've been to AGR like four or five. No shit.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Something like that. That's awesome. I just like, I volunteered to go. Thought I'd do something cool, but we just went to Kuwait. You know how I met him? Like actually met him? Like we'd talked through the internet before. Fluck hits me up one day.
Starting point is 00:36:41 he's like, yeah, guess what he just ran into? Nick from tactically acquired because they live in the same area. They just bumped into each other. That's fucking wild. I've tried to get Chad GPT to run the numbers on the statistics. 340 million people. And then you just go like this.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Now they're both going to walk here at the same time. I have one editor and he happens to run into him in person. Yes. that's astronomical so you run into him and then you're like oh shit we'll hang out yeah this fucking so
Starting point is 00:37:18 weird so you go through that and then at the same time that's when you're like oh I'm going to do YouTube Instagram Reels TikTok or yeah so you're talking about when I decided to start
Starting point is 00:37:29 the channel yeah well so looking at his back catalog or what I could rip off first so I was like I didn't use it. Yeah. By the way,
Starting point is 00:37:41 there's so many people that do this and do not, are not open about it. So, you've got to, you've got to have a starting point to learn. It's an inspiration. You have to learn. People,
Starting point is 00:37:51 don't reinvent the fucking wheel. Sorry, that is the dumbest thing you can do. Look, it is, it is super easy to sit here and say like, oh, you just,
Starting point is 00:37:59 the ripping, ripping you all thing pisses me off the most because it's like, you have no idea what it goes into making a video. Oh, no. God, no. It was like the dude I was talking to that I'm trying to help out. I said, well, you know, how long do you want your videos to be?
Starting point is 00:38:12 He said, I was thinking like a little bit shorter like 45 minutes. And I said, do you have editing experience? I said, no. I said, you might want to temper your expectations like a lot. You get it because you do camera and editing and you know the entire process. And it is time consuming, especially when you start getting 45 minute videos and hour video. Yeah. Research alone.
Starting point is 00:38:35 How much time do you guys spend it? Like even with you, it's like, how much time do you guys spend per episode? Fucking 40 to 80 hours. Yeah, it's so I think my research is, I think my research is shorter than that. But I eat up the rest of that time because I script my videos. Oh, yeah, he does. I do not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I don't have that, what was that word you used? I just had a good memory. I did it or something. Like, he's got that tism. I got that tism brain. I can't. I ain't got it like that. Dang.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And then, Cappy, what is you like? Well, combined with all the people that work on the videos, it's a lot of hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Because everything has to be right with you guys. Like, otherwise comments and the internet will flip shit. I was telling him before we started the podcast, like,
Starting point is 00:39:25 I'm not jealous of him at all. No. Because like, I have the luxury of being like, this happened 50 plus years ago. We know everything we're going to know about this. There will be no new developments, really. You know what I mean? Like, I, it's very easy for me to be, well, easier for me to be correct and on the right side,
Starting point is 00:39:46 because it's all 2020. He's like, he's putting out updates on an active war where it's like, so he constantly has the. I'm flying by a seat of my pants, I feel like all the time. I'm like, am I going to get this one right? Or am I going to be on the wrong side of this one and his? People are going to look back one day on my videos and like, wow, he really got that. Have you seen Hitler? or two. You know what I mean? I don't do that at all. I would love to see your comments section.
Starting point is 00:40:11 It's actually, they're more mature than I would I would, you know, current events is very it's emotional and like people get very emotional about things that are happening today. So it can be touchy, but they're mature boys. They're good boys.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah, you have a good, I think that's one of the keys is having that strong, dedicated community or audience that then they rally behind you. they also have the patience as like, oh, he's going off this information. That's what it was given to him. And a lot of times I'll say, I'll say that, like, this is what we know right now or this what we think we know.
Starting point is 00:40:44 And I will be proven wrong tomorrow probably. Turn out that I fucking, I'll eat my shoe on this. So then you're, and then you were like, okay, continue to grow. How many videos had he done before you? Over a hundred probably, I'm sure. Oh, no, I'm not at 100. No, I, oh, sorry. I thought you're saying how many videos did I have?
Starting point is 00:41:05 already. Oh, okay. So you've had a hundred. Yeah, I had over 100 for sure by the time he had started. Yeah, I probably, that Chuck McWitty one, maybe 20, 30. Still dope feeling I bet you're like, yeah. That was a big junk to go from like, because I didn't want to do like really short videos right off the bat. I knew the goal was 45 minute videos.
Starting point is 00:41:25 So that Chuck McWenny one was, that was a big one to be 45 minutes. Side note, that also got me off of a Trump did that TikTok ban. Oh, yeah, yeah. So TikTok's known about bite dance, I think, is the parent company. So we call it a TikTok band. It was really a bite dance band. My Chuck Mawinny video was in a program called Cap Cut and I was locked out of it. I was almost done and I was locked out.
Starting point is 00:41:52 No, just a week sunk into editing this thing. Damn. Oh, my God. I didn't even think about that. That would be like Adobe just canceling everyone. Yes. And you're like, oh. The hell?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Yeah. So it came back up, exported it, immediately stopped everything I was doing, and was like, am I going to Venture resolve or Premiere Pro? Someone's had, they probably had like a movie up to this point. They were mid-edit and they're like, yeah, this is the week. And then just you can't do it.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I'm like, huh, huh. So then you did that and then fucking keep crushing now. Because, I mean, what's your numbers now? you're doing great. 60,000, something like that. It's a lot of fucking people. I hate with people. It's like it's only this.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And then I go, imagine in a stadium and 62,000 people are watching you. Yeah. Yeah. 2000 feels like a lot. 60,000. You're like, yeah. It's a lot of work. Like, just people just don't think about it.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I know when I wanted to start it. I wanted to get better like at speaking and stuff. So I started volunteering. You know like we do military ceremonies and someone has to read all the scripts and stuff. I started volunteering to do all that just so I could get better at speaking. I started reading books on like how to script write better. So you can kind of like, okay, why did Nick do this with the hooks? The best lesson I did was when, so the first video that we talked about was the Bob Howard.
Starting point is 00:43:34 What happened? He's like, if we were, we just started talking and we're, oh, yeah, what video you're on? I was like, oh, I just uploaded all my clips to Fluck on my Robert Howard video. And he's just like, fuck. He is the same video that he happened to be working on. They were. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:57 But it worked out perfect because app, because the book is so fresh on my mind, I got to see like, how do you? you how do you take a 350 400 page book and condense it down to where like you don't leave too much out and all that and it was it was really interesting seeing the process like I was like oh shit he just combined like four paragraphs into one sentence yeah it's just little things like that it's a and that can translate I mean all you all know it's that how do I get all this information as quick as possible and it covers everything it's no different than lines reading lines acting it is how do I convey this as fast as possible yeah because a lot of people just add word goop just to add it.
Starting point is 00:44:38 And you're like, no, get rid of that. Keep those hooks going the entire time. And I like, I love these style of podcast episodes because I just get to learn the entire time. I don't have to talk that much. I'm like, oh, oh, oh, this is fucking dope. This is great. So when you actually started, when did, when would you say you started blowing up? Like, oh, it's taking off now.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Oh, it was a, I know exactly what it was. It was about this time last year. I was in the field. I was in the field. I was really down to myself about it because I really was trying to put more videos out, like consistently. And then you had commented on, I think you did a, I don't know, Instagram. What's a real? A real, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Saying, hey, XYZ did a good job on it. And then I just saw it like skyrocket. like a good good size spike. That's the first time you see that money that's in the thing. I was like, oh, this is a real thing. That's legit. It's better than the army? There's a plane better than the army.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I'm trying to get him to quit. It's my new passion, unrecruiting. I got Ethan. I'm working on Rich. I'm going to get him. Not there yet. Yet. Not there yet.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yet. It switches real quick. I'm going to get him. You're not making it to 20. You're not getting it full. pension. You get a certain part. Would you join again right now?
Starting point is 00:46:11 Not right now. And I don't think. Not at the moment. No. I'd go back. Maybe as an officer. If it was just like a, yeah. Weekend job?
Starting point is 00:46:21 Yeah. No, period. What's that? Only reason I'm going back in is if somebody invades here and then the options are, do I want to join the military or run a guerrilla operation? One of them sounds way funner. I bet that other one makes a lot of money if we stream it. Just do tutorials on that.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Be a good ass time. I think through all of our years in business on the internet, we've all used Shopify. I've used it for merch and my skate shop and a couple other businesses. I will actually agree 100% on that. Everything we do is run through Shopify. Even bunkers run through Shopify. Our shoes, which is a separate company, is run through Shopify and they talk together
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Starting point is 00:48:23 You have Kappy Army going for. How long now? It's almost been exactly a year. Our first year. And yeah, it's going great, man. We're killing it. We're crushing it. Your jump, like, is awesome to see that everyone was like, oh, okay, you switch positions or switch channels started something new.
Starting point is 00:48:41 That, by the way, I can say this now. That was terrifying. And I thought for sure, I was like, it's a non-zero chance. It was actually like a year ago I was doing the podcast with you guys. And I'm like, this is a non-zero chance in my head. I'm thinking, like, this could all just fucking fall apart. And no one follows me over. It's a goddamn disaster.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And also not just would it be a disaster. it be a very public disaster. It's like not, you know when you switch jobs at work and you're like, I'm going to go from IBM to Cisco. It's like, if I fail at Cisco, no one's going to know, whatever. Like, I'll just bury that in my LinkedIn like this. It would be a monstrous, like, public humiliation ritual for myself. Well, it is scary because it's like you've got to be doubting yourself as far as like,
Starting point is 00:49:26 okay, are these my fans or are they fans of the show and I'm just the current talking head? You know what I mean? Like, anybody on Sports Center could leave Sports Center, they're not the new sports center. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like there's got to be that. But the hindsight was in the outside looking in, I'm pretty sure I was like a lot of other people where it was like, I thought you were. Task and Purpose.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah, because I was following you. So I didn't start the thing. It's weird because obviously you don't start every video with like, hey, I'm Chris Capi and I don't own this channel. By the way, now we're going to talk about it. I just work here. I just started the channel and edited all the videos. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:12 So a lot of people thought that I owned it. And yeah, it was so it's been a year now. And it's been very freeing to be able to kind of before I picked every topic. I made every video myself. But now it's a little bit different. different because I can also choose how much money to invest in everything. So that's a huge benefit, which is kind of like the one thing I couldn't do before. And you, I mean, we had talks even leading up to your split because I was very much,
Starting point is 00:50:48 you're going to be fine. Leave. Yeah. I was like, you, everyone is going to follow you. We've watched this happen time and time again. But yeah, it was some conversations because it is that worry. I mean, everyone's experienced it. Like you leaving, even when you're starting and you're like,
Starting point is 00:51:03 uh, hopefully how will I do long form? And it takes off you. Oh shit. How much stress goes into. Okay, I'm starting something new. I am making this,
Starting point is 00:51:14 but this is an unknown. I have my family to worry about. Because wasn't your wife pregnant at the time? Yes. Yeah. Yes. She was three months pregnant. And I ran it by her.
Starting point is 00:51:24 You know, I was like, I'm not going to do this unless you believe in me and you think that we should do this. Obviously, I'm not going to do it. without your blessing. And she said, I believe in you, you know, you got to see this through. And I was terrified because, and now looking back, I don't think, before you have a kid,
Starting point is 00:51:39 you know, before you have a kid, it doesn't feel real. You don't fully understand the responsibility. Now I'm like, what was I thinking? Oh, my God, like these diapers cost money. What was I going to do if I failed? I was like, what a stupid thing to do? Like, God, it worked out. But yeah, she's, she's a beautiful little girl. I'm a, I'm a beautiful little girl. I'm now a girl dad and it's a beautiful thing. Congrats. How old right now? She's 11 months.
Starting point is 00:52:05 She's almost a year. Yeah. I saw, I see on Instagram other girl dads and so apparently Kim Jong-un is a girl dad and he takes his little daughter out to see like the rockets they fire. I'm like, what, what? You know, I actually, he's kind of growing on me. Someone's going to clip that.
Starting point is 00:52:25 He's growing on me. He's a good. He's a good girl, dad. Come on, leave him alone. What a warped sense of reality. You grow up and he and his den. Just every time I walk in the room, people clap like their Wii sports characters. That's normal.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Imagine trying to find her a date for prom. Oh, my God. You're not breaking up with her. Nope. Not allowed to. What do you need, honey? I'd be like a tear. One tear slowly falling down.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Open the door like Michael Howard. Who is his Reggie? Is he doing the bad boys? With his military police in the background? That would be a good AI clip. But yeah, I hope one of the. day to take my daughter to missile launches and, you know. Maybe you two could go together.
Starting point is 00:53:33 That'd be nice. You invite watching this, invite you. Please, yes. If you're in charge of high Mars launches, I would love to take my daughter to Ceylon, you know? As an American, I feel like we should be able to do that. You're not talking to Kim Jong-un right now, right? Actually, now that you mentioned, I wasn't, but also the invitation is putting this out there for Kim Kim Jong-un as well.
Starting point is 00:53:55 It'd be a hard one to accept. I still think the U.S. military would get way more support if they treated it like it was one of those like charity programs, you know, where it's like, oh, donate 16 cents a day to sponsor this child and this impoverished country. And then, you know, every year at Christmas you get like a picture and like an update. I want that with like my tax dollar. Like you bought a hellfire missile that we shot at some cartel number. Yes. Bro. This is dope.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Yes. Be way more popular. Do you want to buy another? You bought seven screws on a B2. Imagine that you're like, I might. Why am I writing a check to the IRS? What the fuck? Happened so quickly.
Starting point is 00:54:33 War bonds. Your pictures are next to your family photos. Those are my missiles. I was thinking about that the other day. Like back in World War II, like actually like going around and trying to sell war bonds to the civilian population to get everybody in on the war, like, they never have to do that again because now they can just print more money. But like, what a cool notion of like, no, we're going to get, this is going to be a popular idea. Actually, we're going to crowd fund war. It was the Kickstarter of World War II.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah, we go fund-mead stopping down Nazi Germany and Japan. Like, it's literally what happened. Well, I actually don't know. How did all of that work? Like, War Bonso, you just, they would. They would have fundraisers. So, like, I talk about it in my videos, like a lot of the big war heroes, like John Basselone, after he got his Medal of Honor, like, as soon as dudes were getting the Medal of Honor, same thing with Dick Bong,
Starting point is 00:55:21 same thing when they captured U-boat 505, whenever something incredibly cool happened. they would bring that person back from war, and they would go on a war bonds tour. And it was a full PR tour across the country, going on radio shows, doing rallies, and you would have John Bassalone telling his story of, you know, stopping the Japanese up on the hill by himself with a machine gun and Dick Bong shooting down 38 enemies.
Starting point is 00:55:46 And people were in the crowd like, oh shit. And then they're like, you guys want to buy war bonds? And it was basically like any other bond where it's like, yeah, give us $20 now. 10 years it matures and you get $30. And that's how they got raised money to keep building shit for the U.S. military because they didn't have, you know, fractional reserve banking yet. So they couldn't just be like, print us $15 trillion more dollars, please.
Starting point is 00:56:12 So like they actually literally crowdfunded war. And it worked to a scary degree. It was also way more popular. Well, I mean, that's a really good idea. Even if you did that. Why do we get rid of the like the hero? imagine trying to bond fund the Iran war. Like we need more missiles.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Yeah, I don't think many people are signing up for that one. I think the Iran would be a hard and sell. That's my whole point is like, now that they can just print money, there's no need for it to be a popular. There's no need for it to be a popular endeavor, which kind of fucking sucks. I kind of like the notion of like,
Starting point is 00:56:47 hey, the civilian population is not paying for it. We can't go to war. I kind of like that. I learned something interesting that you might find this interesting. Everyone here, really. So the National Guard, the way they recently reorganized it was for that reason. They put a bunch of the combat arms into the National Guard so that if there was like a major war,
Starting point is 00:57:08 it would very quickly start to impact the civilian population and families. And it was kind of like the doctrine of why they split it that way was to try to maintain some type of like popular support for the war. Good idea. Yeah, yeah. There's a cool document on it out there that only the people here would find interesting. Dude, well, I find, like, again, why get rid of that system? As you're saying, that's a great idea. Does the population, does the, we do a democracy, we see what we want to do as a nation,
Starting point is 00:57:45 and then we fund that. And I do like even bringing the soldiers, like the Delta Dues that did the raid in South in Argentina, right? in Venice. Well, that'd be so sick. They're on radio. They're doing their talks and they're trying to influence or at least get some like a hero. As you've said before when we were General George. After Korea, after World War II for the most part, but definitely after Korea, we quit having war heroes. Like we just stopped. We quit doing it. And I don't know if it's because we didn't
Starting point is 00:58:16 need to raise money anymore or what, but like I think it's a like it's a whole, obviously I didn't start my channel with the motivation of doing this, but like as something's going successful, you like look for reasons why to keep doing it. And like mine is definitely like, okay, why did we quit highlighting these guys? Why do we quit teaching about these guys? Like, and then you wonder why all the kids today aren't proud to be an American. And it's like, oh, because you guys don't know any of the fucking stories that got you here. Like look at this badass and tell me that's not awesome.
Starting point is 00:58:46 You know what I mean? And then you went, oh, none of the kids care. None of the kids are patriotic anymore. Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. Like, obviously. Yeah. Look what their fact. I mean, that's, I had what I wanted to join.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And this wasn't the age of information. I was like watch videos or, uh, 9-11 just happened. So it's just, oh, I want to jump out of planes watching a lot of movies. It's like, I want to do more and be the cool guy. And now is there, they rarely war movies or portrayed in that. and when there are, I feel like a lot of times the first thing people do is they just tear them down. They look for a reason of why, like,
Starting point is 00:59:27 oh, that guy was actually flawed in this way. It's like, oh, he wasn't perfect. Well, you want to hear the scary stat. There's a new study that came out and basically they pulled living people from different generations on what was like the defining historical moment of your generation. So, for example, Gen X said
Starting point is 00:59:48 the defining cultural moment of their generation. generation was the Berlin Wall coming down. Okay. Makes sense. Millennials was 9-11. 9-11. You know what Gen Z's cultural defining moment is when they asked kids? Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:00:05 COVID? Oh, I'm a TikTok shutdown for a bit. Two weeks without a kick. Mr. Beast. School shootings in general. School shootings in general. They just thought that that, that's. wild and yeah because uh we've discussed in the past um dr fox he did a research paper on this the 90s
Starting point is 01:00:30 were the highest peak of school shootings the 90s when we were like really like kind of like gen x is more yeah that's what's crazy it's like this is before 9-11 but yeah that's we treat it like the like the monster in the closet if you have a kiddo and you never talk about the monster in the closet. Guess what? They're never going to know about a monster in closet. If you walk in tell your kids like, hey, good night. Be careful the monster in your closet. And then you walk out. Now, kids like, the fuck did dad just say? Well, it's also think about like school. Like during the Cold War, during the Cold War, kids would have like nuclear fallout drills. Like they had the government cartoons with the little turtle duck and cut. Remember kids, what do you do when
Starting point is 01:01:17 you see the flash? Like, what? What? What's the closest thing parallel to that that a kid today would be going through an active shooter drill? Right. You know what I mean? So like it's, I don't know. It's just weird to think about it. It's like, and what's the war, obviously the Berlin Walls is a Cold War, potential war with Russia. 9-11 is what started GWAT.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Like what's the war outcome or motivation for somebody to join the military service if the biggest cultural event of your childhood and upbringing is a local problem? Yeah. So it's, I can say it's, it's tough recruiting right now. So like two, yeah, so like two assignments ago, I was a associate professor, military science, glorified RTC instructor. And then after that, I was actually recruiting commander. So like I was in charge of like the recruiting for the southern part of the state. Never thought I'd do that in my career. Didn't want those assignments.
Starting point is 01:02:10 But you go where you're told. It does what it's told. So anyway, that was RRT, it was. wild the things you find out about so like COVID and has messed these kids up yeah it is absolutely mess these kids up I was the class I taught for a lot of my students I was the only in-person class they had on campus the rest were all online oh damn paying full college prices but like I was the only one in person it's got to be hard to recruit like oh yeah so yeah so on the recruiting part you're talking like So why did these kids join?
Starting point is 01:02:47 Like it's, it was kind of hard to get some of these old timers to understand. Like, no, these kids don't care about patriotism anymore. That's not where they're joining. They don't have that defining moment. A lot of them are joining and it's the only thing I could sell was educate, was either education benefits like go to college or get a skill that could translate into a job. So like the two hottest things that are easy or really the three hottest things to sell right now is cyber, signal, and military intelligence. Because all those translate into like, you know, three-letter agency, jobs.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Like, those are easy cells. The biggest geopolitical event in their lives has been school shootings. And COVID, yeah. But, I mean, the most impactful school shootings. And then COVID happened. And it's like, how many fucking kids didn't get to go to prom? How many kids, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Like, arguably the point of your life where you learn the most socially and deal with the most rejection and the most everything. Stay in the house. Cover your face. Don't interact. Why are you guys so weird? I wonder. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:55 Couldn't be anything that you guys did do us. Stand six feet apart, even though it's an airborne illness that can travel fucking 80 yards away. Why? Fauci said so. He also said it didn't make sense. He didn't know where it came from, but fucking do it. Thankfully, it really doesn't hurt you.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Little ones at all. COVID was wild. Being still serving when it first happened. I was so, I had just gotten out. I was so fucking happy that I wasn't in for COVID in the military. You couldn't walk anywhere in uniform without people going like, is it martial law? What's happening right now? Braden, what shirt are you wearing?
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Starting point is 01:05:37 What was it? It was right when Obama was leaving office. So 2016? Do you remember Jade Helm? Yes. I've always wanted to do a video on Jade Helm. I love that's such a great. I need to have my memory. We're forever from it. National Guard. I'm up in Iowa. Operation Jade Helm. You know how every like mock military field exercise has a mission. It's run like a real military operation. So like, yeah, we're doing this mock mission. Operation Arctic Anvil. Operation slippery fist. Whatever the fucking is. Right. So the Texas National Guard, their annual training exercise was to provide disaster relief. in either Houston or Dallas. And the mock mission's name was Jade Helm.
Starting point is 01:06:21 And they had the maps drawn up of like, okay, the units are going to go into this part of the city or whatever, whatever, like whatever this fake mission was. Obviously, they weren't actually going out into the city, but all the maps were drawn up. That was what the Intel briefs were, yada, yada, yada. It's all fucking fake. These got leaked to the press.
Starting point is 01:06:37 And it turned into all the like super crazy right wing people being like, Barack Obama's going to instill martial law so he doesn't have. have to leave office and he's going to become a dictator and blah, blah, blah, blah, and it got so hyped up that Texas has like the actual federal Army National Guard, but there's also the Texas guard that just works for the state of Texas. And they do not, like, they're not technically associated with the U.S. Army, none of that shit, just a militia group for the state of Texas, basically. They were fucking posted up like outside of Fort Hood, ready to go to war with the United States
Starting point is 01:07:13 army in case Barack Obama tried to instill martial law. And I had people coming up to me like, is this, is this true? Are you going to try to enforce martial law? I was like, bro, I'm an apprentice electrician. You think I'm going to get a call one day and hop in a Humvee with a megaphone and tell everybody to go to bed? Absolutely not. Like, fuck no. It would not work. No. That was like a real thing. I got asked about it multiple times when this was all going on. It was fucking crazy. God, what year was this? 2016. And I think they do it every year, right? They do a version of it kind of and they
Starting point is 01:07:49 have special forces come in with their helicopters and they do a mock invasion of a town and then people they go crazy every year about how. Oh, because they're the government's planning for... Every year, the government's planning something. Look at all these tanks on trains. It's like, bro, the military's just moving equipment. Why is it
Starting point is 01:08:07 now? Because it's summertime and that's when we train. I don't... What do you want me to say? Like, We've, because you'll tear up the roads if you try to drive a convoy of Abrams, like down the friggin' 81 highway all the way to wherever it fuck. People would freak out going to Yakima, because Seattle today, Yakima, we'd have to do a drive with all the strikers. So you have an entire brigade driving on the road highways there. And you just get to see people freaking the fuck. I didn't think about that.
Starting point is 01:08:37 They don't even look at it like, oh, it's a military exercise. It's great. You see it on X. You see it on Twitter all the time. It'll have like 37,000 likes and it's just a video of tanks going on a train trussle. And people are like, it's happening. It's World War III, guys. See, they're thinking that.
Starting point is 01:08:54 I'm looking at that and going, there are some poor E4 who's been in the heat. Binding down chains. The worst railhead operation. For minimum wage. Below minimum wage. Hating life. They're like all these strikers on the roads. It was like, somebody is in there having to drive that hate and love.
Starting point is 01:09:12 life right now. Oh, dude. Fuck. No, I'm good. Yeah, I forgot all about that. What do you, okay, so now that you're doing that, do you get in any trouble with
Starting point is 01:09:29 the military? Like, next out. Ethan, we had some fun times with Ethan depending on what was going on. I don't know what it is. If I'm just lucky or it's the content that I do,
Starting point is 01:09:43 because it's history, everyone's either neutral or really receptive. I haven't gotten a single negative thing. I think, again, it's a history thing. Yeah. I think if you were doing like current events or what a lot of other military influencers do, which is just like being in your uniform reading headlines from Newsweek that are like, right 40% of the time, you would get a lot more shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Oh, 100%. You're also not in your fucking uniform in every video. I think smart I think I showed maybe in the whole tatically acquired channel there's maybe like 45 seconds total I mean uniform they're like skits usually too but even then like I've done like I'll just have the tan shirt yeah but I mean it's still there's like there's plausible deniability like if I did a skit nobody would be like that's stolen like no obviously I'm doing a skit you know what I mean there's still plausible denyability right fact that you had to come here and say oh no I'm still in is the whole reason why it's okay. Whereas like a lot of the other military influencers is like your whole thing is you're in the military so we should trust you and know.
Starting point is 01:10:53 And that's why you're a reliable source. Yeah. Angry cops. Yeah. Angry cops. Yeah. We're just going to like, you look at it. While his content that he does, his jokes he makes, even on kind of this and then
Starting point is 01:11:11 he is a detective. And a drill sergeant. Like, you just like playing with gas, homie. He is, he is, and I've had this conversation with him before, he's Norm McDonald. Yes. He is the Norm MacDonald of the game. He's one of the first military influencers.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Like, he pioneered a lot of this, if not all of this. So it's just like, by the time they caught up to being like, that's not okay, he'd already done it. So it's like, he just gets like the forever pass. Yeah. He's the loose cannon we didn't catch. The rest of you motherfuckers need to listen. He's just grandfathered in.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I remember watching Rich years ago. He's been doing it for 12 years now? Yeah, yeah. He's been doing it since Vine. Yep. I remember, I think me and Rich started talking like 2014 for military content. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Like in its infancy of social media. Yeah. Like Drunken Debrief was the retelling of history. Military store. Like you and. I'd get you drunk. You'd tell a story and then we'd reenactment with ADR. It's like drunk history, but...
Starting point is 01:12:17 Not Comedy Central. Yeah. Yeah. Drunk history, but it was drunk... Comedy Central was a thing? Yeah. And that was the first of its kind. All those.
Starting point is 01:12:27 It's like you get to see the first of their kind. And it's like, oh, yeah, this is OG. And then other than Rich, I think Rich is the only one that made it past... Rich is the only one that's still around. Like, Rich was one of the first ones there and he's... I can't think of anybody else that's had as long of a career successfully as he has in this. Age. Everyone else.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Like, I mean, started doing as a combat veteran. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Um, you, uh, the other drills aren't you, you, you, you, uh, the other drills aren't you, you, you, Shia Thomas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:06 I don't know, like any of those guys are doing anymore. Yeah. Like even, I mean, he was before and after black rifle, like black rifle, like black rifle, I feel like was the turning point when it became like mainstream and like he was there before. He's thereafter. I mean, he's crazy. Yeah. And still doing both of those jobs.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Yeah. Yeah. That's what it's the most. The weirdest part is he is the one that will, he has the least likely chance of quitting anything. No. He loves. Never going to happen. Being a police officer loves training privates.
Starting point is 01:13:41 It doesn't feel of the game. He really does. A hundred percent. It's got to be interesting from his perspective because he's been doing it for song. It's like going back, what was it like back then, grandpa? Like just seeing how everything's progressed. I mean, you're like, dude, ad revenue didn't exist. Like a lot of that stuff was not what it is now.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Like I look at OG like 2010. You had Freddie and how the money would be made was not. We were not looking at ad revenue for YouTube. It was getting deals to do videos for or commercials. That's how the money was brought into rocket jump. Ad revenue was like, I don't know, like no one really gave a shit or the CPMs would have been trash donkey. And that was probably until 2016.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I'm trying to think when ad revenue actually made a difference. Man, I was. I know this is like a lot. I've done this forever now at this point in my life. I don't see how some of these guys Like they'll do like those skit channels and stuff And they make like pennies on the dollar And then like all these TikTok influences and stuff
Starting point is 01:14:50 I mean they don't make Yeah the CPMs are lower for I think That kind of thing It's like seven cents Damn Shorts don't pay dog I don't hold out here What's so Cappy
Starting point is 01:15:09 What's one of the going to your style of content? What's like one of the scariest things going on right now to you since you're active in the going on of the world? So there's kind of two things I think you guys might find cool. This is, I'll get to the scary thing in a second if it's all right. Go for it. Something that you guys might find really interesting is the Army's trying to bring back the XM-25. They're trying to.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Hell yeah. Should have never been canceled in the first place. Amen. Amen, brother. I looked into it. It was bullshit the reason they canceled that. They were worried about us committing too many war crimes because it was awesome. That's my theory.
Starting point is 01:15:47 It's not just a theory. I got it confirmed. Did you really? Yes. So I did that in my video and I was like, sorry, can I? The XM25 is a grenade launcher, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:57 So it all started out with the Army Futures Weapons Program. And then they had this futuristic grenade launcher that basically every 40 millimeter grenade, is that what it? It was a 25. 25 millimeter grenade. You can fire. it and then it blows up, like you could air burst. You could lays the target, like say it's a window, you could lays the window
Starting point is 01:16:15 and then program the grenade to explode 18 inches past the window. So then shoot through the window and it blows up right in the hole. Right? But my whole theory was it's technically a war crime because it's exploding ammunition. Staples' preferred
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Starting point is 01:17:22 So they used the Geneva Convention thing as kind of like a way to get out of the contract. Okay. And they snuck out of this like multi-million dollar contract that they were stuck. This is just what was told to me by somebody who worked. at the company for the XM30 that I went and fired. I would test fired the XM 30. First civilian to shoot it. And it's crazy because it really is like a sniper rifle grenade launcher where I was putting
Starting point is 01:17:49 rounds at 300 meters consistently on the target's face. And I was hitting and you can hit out to 500 meters. The range was only 400 meters. So I was accurately putting semi-automatic grenades at 400 meters within a one-meter radius. And it is a 5 meter radius kill range. So instead of 25 millimeter, it's now 30 millimeter, which is like twice the volume, twice the lethality, buzzword lethality. But is there any, like, when you're tracking, is it just because you were like, hey, I'm dialed in? Or is it, hey, this knows what it needs to hit? So I didn't shoot the laser range find airburst ammo. I shot
Starting point is 01:18:27 training ammo because you can't just like blow shit up in Montana and burn down a field apparently. Gay. Gay. But so the, it's semi-automatic, it has five 30-millimeter grenades in the clip, or in the magazine, sorry. And I'll see myself out. Thank you guys. It was really nice to be here. Boom. It's just chill.
Starting point is 01:18:52 It just keeps it in the mood. I love how we're all YouTubers and we all know there's 500 comments, angry at him, immediately. This second you're like, clips. They were like, I'm turning so red right now. Just like the welding thing earlier. Holy shit. I said welding was easy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:16 What am I doing? Just ruined my credibility here on unsubscribe today. Dude, such a cool great one. So cool to hear that story about how, like, yeah, it's, you know, exploding bullets below a certain amount are supposed to be a war crime. 25, dude, sorry, like, again. 300 yards and you're hitting a face. Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:19:40 40 mic mics, you would have a fucking leaf that you would just guess that it's going to maybe hit. Your CEP, like, circular error probable is within 4 meters to the left and right and horizontal and vertical. You know, you're aiming for an area. This is your, the difference between aiming at an area, because you're kind of just kind of winging it and like putting your finger up. Like, oh, is it? Which way is the wind blowing? It's an open leaf site for anyone that's never seen it. It is literally like this and yards.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Like 50? 100. And it's giant. Yeah. Now you're hitting the silhouette and you're choosing where to hit on the silhouette. It's an insane capability. There also this counter drone version to it. So I shot, people were giving me shit in the comments for this
Starting point is 01:20:24 because I shot the inner sort of the just, it shoots out these razor blades on the side. Oh, it's like the one missile. The flying ginsu. It's like the hellfire missile. That's what I said. It was a mini version of hellfire. I shot a drone that my buddy gave me the drone that I could shoot.
Starting point is 01:20:39 And so I didn't have it flying at me at 300 miles an hour, obviously, because I'm like, I only got two of these shots. I don't want to miss. So, yeah, it kind of looked stupid. But I did shoot this drone into oblivion. And there is an airburst version of it, a proximity version, where it detects when it's within five meters of a drone automatically through, like, radio frequencies. And then it just explodes itself. So that's cool. Oh, that's, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:01 I like how they shit on you for doing something. Dude, it's like, I was like, I was like, don't think this is cool. Cappy, you're such a loser. It's not flying at you at 600 miles an hour. It's the MMA guys. Well, you can't eye gouge and bite his dick off. So this is a real
Starting point is 01:21:18 fighting. It's like, dude, shut up. Like, I'm sorry. You hit with the bottom of your fish. It's not called training if we're actually doing the thing. Like, I'm also, like, should I have done it that way? Sure. But, you know, it was just kind of just me
Starting point is 01:21:31 out in Montana with like, a dude. Doesn't matter. then it would be, yeah, but you didn't actually have explosives on it. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, that's, it's never going to, it's, it'll never be enough. It doesn't matter what you do, it will never be enough. When will it be enough? Never.
Starting point is 01:21:47 You're not in an active war zone. You don't understand what's going with the heart rate of those soldiers. What the fuck do you know? It's got to be a zone too. Yeah. You just take 17 out of all to make sure that you just, you know, recreate that feeling of being under fire. You do a in a war zone under fire and then it's like murder. Okay, cool
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Starting point is 01:23:59 Yeah. Yeah. I want to see what those do. Like when the airburst, because it has to, how much does it fuck up? Well, I had, I had joked in my video talking about the XM 25. I was like, technically the airburst is supposed to be airburst. But because you can program the bullet to explode when you want, there's nothing preventing the grunt from lazing the bad guy and then making it detonate six inches inside the bad guy,
Starting point is 01:24:28 which is exploding ammunition. And then I put the clip from Terminator. two when the grenade goes into him and he like blows off like it. He looks down. Yeah, exactly. Yes. So is this like a, I mean, not going to give it to every ground. It's like a squad weapon or?
Starting point is 01:24:46 This is interesting. I love talking about the doctrine side of it that I find that fascinating. So they're going to, basically they're remaking the whole army squad where it's going to be the XM7 and they're going to get rid of two XM7s in the squad. And instead of your grenadier role, you're just going to be carrying one of of these. It's called the precision grenade system. Grenade launcher guy. Right. Grenadier. The grenade launcher is back. Not grenade launcher guy.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Grenade launcher guy. I'll show the Marine Corps. The Marine Corps has the best MOS names. I'm the GLG. No big deal. There you go. Oh, shit up. So now, wait, when you say redoing the squad. So in each fire team, you'll have one of these. And you don't carry, I asked about it. And they said you don't carry, you wouldn't carry like an AR or a rifle. You would just
Starting point is 01:25:31 just have this because there's also shotgun round shells. And this was the one lethal round that I did get to fire was it. So it, get this, it's like firing four 12 gauge buckshot rounds. It has 48. That's, it's, hell yeah. That's got to be a war.
Starting point is 01:25:48 In 40 years, there's going to be some dude with zero cartilage or bone density in his shoulder. I'm not sure it was service related. Yes. A hundred percent. Like, it's like the goose off giving it you. You're not allowed to shoot the goose off so many times because of brain damage. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:07 It has that kind of energy to it. It's four. And you shot it? Yeah. How'd that feel? Beautiful. Yeah. It really gave me a run for my money.
Starting point is 01:26:19 The gun knows you're from New Jersey, too. When I had to shoot the, we built a 10 or an 8 gauge, but we were doing blank rounds, which found out that sucks way. more because you'll throw in we're putting an object in front of the blunder bus. It was like an 8 or 10 gauge blunder bus we built. And we're filming it. My shoulder was bruised
Starting point is 01:26:45 like the entirety of it and I shoot everything. I do not get bruised shoulders. That was one of the first times I actually told them I was like hey I got like two more shots I can't do this anymore because they're like and action filming like oh that really. Oh, that really, really sucks.
Starting point is 01:27:03 It has a serious recoil mitigation system in it where the barrel moves back nine inches. And there's also a massive like buffer spring in it. I'll try to, here I'll show you the this you could see right here. Yeah, it kicks. That shows it that that fucking moved you, homie. Yeah. This is, I think, a better one. It's in slow motion, but.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Damn. It's just boom. When in slow motion, the frame goes like this. Ugh. Like you're here from here. So it looks like the Warhammer Bolter gun, and they have that at their offices. It's like the Warhammer 40K bolter. Have you seen the Chinese version that I've made fun of on Unsub before,
Starting point is 01:27:49 and the internet got super butt hurt at me? They get really butt hurt about that because if people were commenting on this video, they're like, oh, people are making fun of the Chinese. The Chinese version, by the way, is based on an American version that failed, that we were like... Barrett. It was one Barrett made. The XM 109 that Barrett made.
Starting point is 01:28:06 And we walked away from it because we're like, it's 30 pounds. It has ungodly recoil. This new version that we have... Yeah, I did it. You have to see it fire because the scope is on a slide and it's got this big plunger thing. So when the Chinese dudes fire it, the scope hits them in the face
Starting point is 01:28:27 and then you see the whole scope slide forward because they had to design it that way. because the eye relief on the scope, if they mounted the scope far enough ahead to where it wouldn't check them, they couldn't see anything. So every time they're getting punched in the orbital bone by this scope.
Starting point is 01:28:42 He's not lying. You have to have the eye relief to look in it. It's like one of the OG sniper. Like at Night Vision. It's like the Night Vision where you have to put your eye into it. And then that night vision kicks you in the fucking face every time you pull the trigger. And not a little bit.
Starting point is 01:28:58 This thing, this new thing that we're working on is only, it's 11 pounds versus that, which is 30 pounds. So people trying to say, they're like, why are we making fun of China for doing this? When we're doing this, no, we're not doing the same thing. Watch this dude's. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Just got Mike Tyson right in the face. And they have to carry that. Not good for the eye. No shit. Yeah, I didn't even know that. Why did people get mad about that? Because everybody that has the attitude that America's bad anytime America
Starting point is 01:29:30 does anything. It's because somebody else did it first. They just don't like America, so they jump on any opportunity they can to shit on it. The Chinese communists. It is wild watching people underestimate the U.S. military and then what we can do. It is mind-blowing. Yeah. Like, we do war, like, really good. Plus, we've been doing it, it was like 12 years.
Starting point is 01:30:00 We've not been in war since our country started. Oh, so we're due. We're due for... No, shut up. But it's one of those sayings even where when recruiting, did you see any of that? People joining in? Like younger kids are like, but what if... Do I have to go to war?
Starting point is 01:30:23 Oh, yeah. Well, aren't they better than us? Yes. Not the better than... They weren't... You're giving them too much credit that they were digging that deep into it. But they weren't. or like, you know, will I have to deploy?
Starting point is 01:30:34 And then like, it's like, well, I mean, that's what you're, Uncle Sam's just not giving you these free benefits for nothing. Like, I mean, you may deploy. You may not. Most deployments really aren't that bad. GWAT. Like, especially. Yeah, I had a blast.
Starting point is 01:30:47 It's a great, easy deployment. A little bit different era. A little bit different. Yeah, yours was definitely. Yeah. When we were with Randy, we went to dinner with Randy as he was like, his going away party thing. And that's like, he was like, what unit were you?
Starting point is 01:31:01 I was like, oh, two ID for the time. this in 07 in Mokadilla and Baghdad. He was like, oh, you guys, holy shit, the first striker they got hammered. I'm like, yeah, it was great. No. My war stories are so different. No shit there I was.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Green bean and Wi-Fi everywhere. I know, that's why you're like, it's like a deployment. I'm like, blah. Just go over there and work out. I mean, and that's that's what happened a lot of times. When my guys went back the second time, that's all. They were like, dude, you just get jacket tan.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Yeah. What's crazy, though, is what our, because at the time, we were like, I don't understand this mission. Like, what are we doing? And we were just like a presence for Iran and we were protecting some of the stuff. Some of those strikes hit those places that we were protecting. And like, just looking at that in hindsight, because it felt like there was no reason to be over there. And I'm sure a lot of people feel that way. But it's like, holy shit, that could have been like a thing. What are we doing? We're trying to get them to start voting and quit fighting. Oh, how long? long they've been not voting and fighting forever. Oh, I should be able to get this done in nine months then. I'm sure. I got a PowerPoint presentation. It'll persuade them. If you see slide two. That's all the point.
Starting point is 01:32:21 That is such a good idea. We should do that. So going back to like for you, what's one of the scariest things that you've been? I think the biggest, the scariest thing right now is the straight-of-form moves for everyone. has everybody, you know, in a tiffy, pretty worried about what's going to happen there. It's unclear at this point. That's what I'm most worried about probably is. And I think there's a lot that we've learned from that war with Iran in terms of what you can kind of pace that on to what it would look like in a war with China because it's pretty similar.
Starting point is 01:32:53 They have all their equipment. It's the same thing would happen kind of be they'd fire these huge volleys of missiles at all of our bases that are in that region. So that's, I think, a microcosm of what we might see in the Pacific. And I would say it doesn't look great in terms of interception rates, you know, because it's just a losing proposition. I think right now, offensive wins. You're going to want, you can't intercept every missile that's coming. And we've kind of learned that. So that's what I'm most worried about.
Starting point is 01:33:26 So straight of our moves. Straight of her moves is fucking lame. It's just. I think Ethan's talked about it. they complained for a long time. This is the stuff we need to get into, like missile defense system or interceptions. And then that's what they kept pushing off for saying,
Starting point is 01:33:40 we don't need that. Also, just the entire notion of, like, they're not playing to win. So you're not going to f***ing win. You know what I mean? Like, if you're not willing to go in there and blow up the systems that fire huge volleys of missiles and blow up the factories
Starting point is 01:33:56 that make the missiles, you're never going to fucking win because the technology and the cost of a missile that's capable of detecting and intercepting a dumb, unguided missile, and it takes a $7 million missile to shoot down a missile that costs $100 grand, they're going to keep throwing $100,000 missiles at you all day long and they're going to bleed you dry first. So it's just the attitude of like, if they would fucking play to win, they would win really fast and in a hurry, but they're going to sit there and bleed themselves out for as long as they want because nobody wants to actually just commit and do the thing.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Which is, wow. That's the biggest change with war. need ground troops, I think, at this point, basically. And to shut that down. No one wants that. It's that quote that I think Kissinger, a lot of people give it to it, which is like the guerrilla army wins if it does not lose and the conventional army loses if it doesn't win.
Starting point is 01:34:47 So we would basically have to go in there and completely win. All they have to do is just kind of survive. I mean, has America ever lost when the objective was go win? No. But when it's like, okay. Well, go over here and just kind of walk around and like. Hearts and mind. Yeah, you can shoot people,
Starting point is 01:35:06 but you have to wait until they rack their gun and then pointed at you. And then even then we should probably wait till they fire first. And then you can return fire. And then if you do shoot somebody and his family members say that, oh, it was celebratory gunfire, then we're going to give that guy $50,000 of your tax money. Like, fuck that. Either go do the thing or leave him alone.
Starting point is 01:35:25 Yeah. Yeah. Hearts and minds never won't. No. Ever. It's not true It worked in Japan It worked in Germany
Starting point is 01:35:33 But what was that What did we do before? That was because we did the fucking thing first It was like okay You guys learn your lesson You want a sandwich now? Okay cool Now we're going to be buddies
Starting point is 01:35:43 Like Do or don't And then you had Hey okay emperor Do something you'd ever done Like that was And it was highly successful And still
Starting point is 01:35:51 I mean you've discussed We've discussed it Where we got to see A culture people That we've never seen We're going to not believe the American won and still defend 20 years after 30 years? Uh, 1976, I think was the last guy, Hero Onoda in the Philippines.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Would you fuck? Like that level of, what was that national pride or? Radicalization, yeah. Yeah. Indctrination. But on the flip side, it was, oh, look how Japan prospered after that. Yeah, we did, uh, what, 10 years? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:24 How long we helped? When, uh, we were there, like, boots on the ground for 10. years, but I mean, we continued to help forever. I mean, it was basically like, all right, we won, fuckers. Start making Toyotas. Worked out great. I need Seiko watches, Toyotos. Nittendos. Nintendos. I also, hear me out. I want a company. I want one fucking store where I can buy a dirt bike and a piano. All right? Get to it. Chop, chop. We'll call it Yamaha. It's going to be great. We also draw this, um, girl. Bigger tips. Fantastic. Hear me out.
Starting point is 01:37:00 What if she had an octopus? No, and no one, never mind. Oh, do we blur it out? Just enough and only their private parts. Why? I don't know. So how do you think the straight's going? Dude, that's what I'm looking.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Pretty gay. Pretty gay. That just be honest. Just people on this side protesting with this is gay. The gayisholos. Do we have the Gayetola shirts around here somewhere? The Gayetola? The Gayetola?
Starting point is 01:37:40 I don't think he's seen them. Oh, I got to... They're over there, but I should be wearing... Someone brought them in here. They're amazing. Yeah, they'll love them. Where are they? Finn come in here with them?
Starting point is 01:37:50 Yeah, yeah. Who did? Wait. Finn walked in here earlier. They might be on the stairs right there unless they were moved. What? Oh, right here. We got them?
Starting point is 01:37:59 What the fuck? amazing yes gay and to fuck is this gay and tola oh my god are these yours no I don't know
Starting point is 01:38:11 I don't know oh someone just made these yeah there's a bunch of them in here somewhere it's my favorite tola but yeah I'm looking forward in thinking
Starting point is 01:38:22 where does this end does this end with Iran basically has a toll booth there and they're allowed to kind of just charge two million bucks to whoever goes through
Starting point is 01:38:29 where are we going to Lockade them for 12 months. It's just, it's a standoff and nobody kind of wants the, wants any part of it. It's not good for anyone right now. It's shutting down Iran's most of their economy and it's driving up all the gas prices here. I think some of us may have noticed. It's, uh, no blano. What a good idea. What if the enemy was more desperate. That works good. Yeah. No give up then. Yeah. Yeah. That works.
Starting point is 01:39:01 Based on my extensive knowledge of, I don't know, basic psychology of every living creature on the fucking planet. It's always when animals are desperate that they're most reasonable. Yeah. Didn't the last barrels just start arriving? Because it's like at three to six months process. Yeah. They said in the next few weeks to expect maybe some kind of catastrophic spike in the prices. But yeah, it's, I think they were hoping.
Starting point is 01:39:28 for regime change really quickly. I think they were like, let's go in, let's pound here, kill that, and then we'll set up somebody like similar to in Venezuela. They'll come in. They won't be democratic, but who gives a shit, they'll be more pliable to the U.S. It'll be great. And listen, like whether I'm whether I agreed with the war or not, the reasons for starting it or like any of that, it kind of, that's a different conversation. But I think how it's going right now is not well, whether it was the right choice or not. That's kind of how I feel about it. Also, even if you did agree with the war, you kind of get to be like, I agreed with it,
Starting point is 01:40:04 but they're not doing it. You know what I mean? Like, do it or don't. Shit or get off the pot. Like, are we doing this or not? We're just dragging this out and making it miserable for fucking everybody. It's dumb. It almost, because it's almost like a no-win situation for us where you can't, if we
Starting point is 01:40:24 walked away now, then Iran has control, there's no freedom of navigation there. And that is a non-starter for the U.S. And at the same time, they're never going to agree. I mean, I think what happens is I think we bomb them again. I don't know. I bet on that. I don't think that's a hard guess. I don't know. I think the first round didn't work. Yeah, right. Let's try again. Maybe it'll be different. New military leadership. They're putting, underwater mines out. It's like, I've seen this happen before.
Starting point is 01:40:58 I saw what happened last time they just put some mines out. One U.S. ship got too close. USS Samuel B. Roberts almost got sunk. And then they flattened their whole fucking Navy in eight hours. So that's what I think could happen, is if when we bomb them again,
Starting point is 01:41:15 and then maybe we send some escorts in, I think if a ship gets hit by a missile, that might maybe create the political will for some kind of ground troops. But I think what Iran's been doing is they've been purposely trying to not create mass casualty events purposefully so that we don't have that kind of rah-rah. Like they killed 100 U.S. troops. Let's go in there and fuck them up. It's smarter for them to just let's bomb their airplanes.
Starting point is 01:41:41 Let's bomb their equipment and not get them all jazzed up on fucking invading us. It's a hard one because right now I think this is one of the wars going into it. No one wanted. Like that was, that's one of the main issue. There was a different Middle Eastern country that, like, had a massive military that was committed to controlling Iran. I just wish that existed in the region. If only. Whoops.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Poor Nick. You're like, I can't say anything. Look, I support Marmon. I'm just sweating over here. Just sitting over here in a reverse Oreo trying to not get fired. I'll start you right now. I'm ready to. everything on the back of that damn can.
Starting point is 01:42:34 Don't smile. Don't make eye contact. Oh my God, you got to go on and stuff. How was it? My wife's pissed and the army's pissed. It's not great. Great time, though.
Starting point is 01:42:44 But themselves, though. My views are up. YouTube has to work now. Everything else is officially on the rocks. Oh, man. Again, it's one of those. I haven't met a vet or G-WAT vet that was like, okay, let's do this thing.
Starting point is 01:43:00 But a lot of the young people, it was crazy watching that reaction, they're excited for it, which I remember that. I'm sure all you remembered that. It's that, oh, I want to join, I want to do war, and it's that 20 years.
Starting point is 01:43:13 How long has it been so, like, heavy combat in Iraq, Afghanistan? Afghanistan ended, what was it, over 10 years ago now? Or less than 10, sorry, 8, 7. so and really then it was kind of really quiet there for five years or so so people wanted their chance I think but I don't know that anyone was like other than for wanting their chance like I don't know if there was a lot of let's hit Iran because it's the right thing no I think we just got
Starting point is 01:43:47 we've seen how it plays out each time so far and this isn't going to be magically different that's what the hard part is I also I it's not like I want Iran to have nuclear weapons at the same time. Why? It's... You know what? Now that I think about it, I never thought about why...
Starting point is 01:44:06 Maybe they should have nuclear weapons. You did... That's all I think what? You did put a positive spin on Kim John earlier. I know. I know. I don't hate the America bad people. Well, America has nukes.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Why can't they have nukes? The same reason my 3-year-old can't have a fucking gun and I can. That's why. dickhead. Like, what are we talking about? Do you know what people forget about that as well? Is that America is one of the only places that goes around and stops our own allies from having nuclear weapons. We stopped Taiwan from getting nuclear weapons. We stopped South Korea from getting nuclear. Taiwan was a, a p.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Hair away from getting nuclear weapons. And we came in with the CIA and we were like, uh, stop that or we're done helping you. I've heard, I've never heard of hair. So this is a new, that's a measuring system. New unit measurement I'm adding to the toolbox for later. YouTube safe. I'm not comfortable saying the C word. I got it. I'll turn red.
Starting point is 01:45:05 Either you turn. I'll say, see that. Fuck. What is, so now you've been doing history for years now. What is one of your favorite stories you told up to this point? Ooh.
Starting point is 01:45:21 And I had to go back through my old videos. Ron Terry. I think that's up there. Ron Terry. So Ron Terry was the father of the gunship. So like the AC 47, C-130 and all that. So it's- What's that AC-4-A-C-130? I think he said AC-47. The AC-47. That's the predecessor to it. Oh, okay. No shit. Okay. Yeah. So it was like, I mean, it's, that in it of itself, guy made gunship, that's cool. But like the, the intensity of how he got it done. Just, it was just this year after year, someone else kept trying it.
Starting point is 01:45:58 And of course, military not wanting to change. They're like, that's not how we do things. Air Force is like, that's not how we do things. And another guy would pick it up, another guy would pick it up. And then this guy finally's like, I'm doing this. And he just finds an AC 47 and some many guns somewhere, shows these SOCOM guys. And somehow he bullshits his way into a meeting with Curtis. Is it Curtis LeMay?
Starting point is 01:46:21 I think his first name. I think so. General LeMay. He was like the guy over the air, air, air, air, Air Force at the time. And the rest was history, essentially. But even then was like he still, it was just one obstacle after another. Even after the Air Force signed off on it, people were still like, no, you can't, you can't do that.
Starting point is 01:46:41 No shit. Like they said, go to Vietnam. Your AC-47s will be there. And they were like blocking him from having him. So much bureaucracy. Yeah. And war was just wild. It's not a hard pitch.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Like, what if I did a drive-by out of a cargo plane? How dope would that be? I'm not feeling it. But it's always, what do you mean? But it's like it comes down to can we do something better for cheaper? And that undermines someone's got interest, right? The AC130 has so much Riz. Love that.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Yeah. And so he's the individual that's just like, I'm going to build a ship around a gun. So actually, so there was a, like AC130 C-47 is, it's a fucking cargo plane that they put many guns and artillery out the side. And it's just like, instead of having, you know, a fast mover, like a F4 Phantom fly over and throw some gunfire and drop a missile and be able to make two passes. And then like, okay, guys, don't die for five more minutes until the next sortie gets to you. It's like, what if we just had a fucking cargo ship with eight tons of ammo doing fucking death donuts around these guys constantly 24-7? And we see it in infrared. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:52 I like finding stories like that where someone, they just kept putting. pushing the envelope just trying to find a solution to it. Like one of the early videos I did was on the ACH 47 Alpha. So it was called the Guns a Go-Go program. So the Chinook was still like new back then. And someone was like, I can't remember who came up with the idea, but it was endorsed by like General Tolson, I think. But anyway, they were like, what if we just turn this cargo helicopter into a gunship?
Starting point is 01:48:25 because their theory was all gunships they have to shoot forward and they can't shoot back so you never fly over what if we just put guns all the way around it and grenade launchers and rockets will stabilize the plane with gunfire from all sides yeah like I did the recoil forces
Starting point is 01:48:43 just cancel each other out it won't rip it apart enemies are on the right huge family having you picnics on the left son of a bitch let it yeah The thing was dope. I did the math on it, and I had some backlash in the comments, but, you know, math doesn't care about your feelings.
Starting point is 01:49:02 The power to weight ratio, by my estimates, I don't think there's been a helicopter we've ever, an aircraft we've ever filled it that had a higher power to weight ratio. Because you could just carry so much, like it had a gross weight of like 33,000 pounds, and I think it could carry 15,000 pounds of ammo. Because they stripped everything out of this thing. There's a lot of ammo. Yeah. The pilot has to fucking readjust the throttle as they dump ammo because they're constantly getting lighter. Oh my God, you're right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:33 There were only two seats in that thing for the pilot and co-pilot. No one else had seats. They were just sitting on ammo crates and stuff. Sounds dangerous. I mean, you're good, but also. Vietnam. That's true. Same vibe.
Starting point is 01:49:49 Have you ever seen my Chingley video? Yeah. He's like one of my favorites for doing. in that. Yeah. So, Chingley, the general.
Starting point is 01:49:54 He's, like, most known for being the battleship commander in World War 2.
Starting point is 01:49:57 So he was an Olympic sniper. He actually held the American and maybe the world record for, like, the most
Starting point is 01:50:04 Olympic medals for a while, all for sharpshooting. And he had really, really bad eyesight. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, like, prior to him,
Starting point is 01:50:14 like, really getting into battleships and pioneering all that, he got put in this, like, admin position leading up to World War II, where they basically told him,
Starting point is 01:50:20 like, you're really detail-oriented, whatever, just go around the military and unfuck everything. Well, he got fed up with, like, the bureaucracy. So he's the reason that, like, every square free inch of space on the deck of a U.S. ship in World War II was covered with AA guns and 50 cows. Because, like, he knew that it was going to be an air fight. Like, he was responsible for a lot of key decisions.
Starting point is 01:50:41 He was pivotal in, like, the VT fuse getting developed, which was arguably a bigger deal than the nuclear bomb in World War II. Like, all these decisions he was behind during this period of time. PT fuse. Variable time fuse, proximity fuse. So that came out in World War II. Basically, it's an artillery round. And prior to this, it was either mechanical or just free shot. So it was like you would have to set the timer and tell the ammunition window explode.
Starting point is 01:51:08 So you had to fucking guesstimate, oh, that plane looks three seconds away, set the timer. And then if you miss all the time. Like the odds of shooting down a plane were very, very low. The VT fuse is a. proximity fuse, it emits a little radar transmission. And then once it gets thrown back at it, it knows that the plane's within 15 feet or whatever, and then it explodes. So it was absolutely pivotal in World War II.
Starting point is 01:51:34 The Germans, we used it against them. And because you didn't just have to use them against planes, you could basically have your artillery be airburst then. So instead of having your artillery hit the ground and explode, it would explode 15 feet over everybody's heads. God. So, I mean, they were cut. down forests. The Germans were blown away by it. Nobody could figure out how we did it because
Starting point is 01:51:55 the ammunition manufactures its own battery in mid-flight. Let's see. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So it's got the lead wafers and then the acid inside of it, which I want to come back to the vial of acid thing in a second. So he was like behind all these decisions. But the funniest part is to cut through all the bureaucracy that he's talking about. He was getting mad that it was taking so long to get his paperwork through because there was like three rubber stamps. so you could hit it with. It was like standard priority and urgent. Urgent was the most important.
Starting point is 01:52:27 He was stamping everything urgent. Like, I'm fucking important. Let's get this done. It wasn't getting through fast enough. So he had a custom rubber stamp made that was frantic. And he used red ink. That way, any Joe Blow handling the paperwork be like, Frang, I've never fucking even seen this.
Starting point is 01:52:43 It'd be like take off running. And that's like how he like railroaded so much shit through. That's no doubt that is. No one knows. You're in the fucking military. You're like, I don't. You're some E4. Go take this to a general sell and sell.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Let's see how important it. Do I have time for lunch? Oh, shit. I don't know. We have to do it now. That's an E4. You're not going to fucking know. Think when you're in the middle.
Starting point is 01:53:10 How many generals have you met in your position right now? Us. Then 20, maybe. Okay. You've actually met quite a few. He's a major, though. He's a officer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:21 Four stars? I've met two four stars. Which is still crazy. Like that. But I don't, man, I'm going to choose my words carefully. Choose my words. I don't get in trouble. Fuck them generals.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Well, I guess. Okay. So they're really tactical. Tactical here. Fuck them all. I'm going to do an officer thing to caveat what you're saying. Pick you back off. Nick said.
Starting point is 01:53:48 Man, I'm like a horrible officer. I do not care about the dog and pony show stuff. I don't look at the next rank. You're a great officer. It's some really uncomfortable conversations with like senior leaders sometimes. Like you ever thought about X, Y? No, I haven't. You ever thought about treating them like people?
Starting point is 01:54:07 Absolutely not. Dude, it is, especially, I don't know why we don't treat them like people in the guard. Because you could have like, there could be an E3 who's like a truck driver who has a business. that makes like a quarter million a year. And it's like, well, why is he in the guard? Probably because he's bored. Or he just wanted to do something different. Or maybe you just wanted the insurance.
Starting point is 01:54:28 Yeah. Like there's a bunch of, but you never know that if you just, they're people, just talk to them. That's going to get me in trouble. That's fine. No, you're good. That's a great thing to say. That is a proper leader, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:54:40 So with like the vial of acid thing inside the VT fuse, you know what that vial was? Mm-mm. Christmas lights. Oh, it was just They went to GE Because they're like, Oh, we need millions and millions
Starting point is 01:54:54 Of tiny little vials filled with liquid. So they went to GE, the biggest manufacturer of Christmas lights in the country. I was like, hey, guess what? You're not making Christmas lights anymore. Start putting acid in these vials. Give them to us. Don't ask questions.
Starting point is 01:55:07 And like, the reason I bring you back. Yeah. Yeah, we 100%. But like the reason I bring that up is like one of the, we're talking about war bonds and just like the random shit that interests me. because I was an electrician that always worked in factories. So like I've been around manufacturing, mass producing.
Starting point is 01:55:24 It's always been like super interesting to me. Like if I had a time machine, I would want to go back and see what it was like working in a factory in World War II. Like, because you go to a factory now, it's like, what are you guys doing? Oh, we make fucking the eggs that go inside egg McMuffins every day. And we watch them come out of the oven and then we freeze them and we package them. It's like nobody's super motivated to do their job. You know, they're just showing up. They're punching the clock, whatever.
Starting point is 01:55:46 But like, I don't know. what was the workplace like when you're working at the Christmas Light Factory? And then one day it's like, hey, we're building these so our boys over there can go fuck people up. Tommy's super motivated because his son's on Guadal Canal right now. You know what I mean? No shit. Like what was the morale of the general workforce like when everybody knew a kid. I bet it was through the roof.
Starting point is 01:56:07 I bet that morale was so there's a forward. Yeah. I was going to, man, there's a wall in the National World War II Museum in New Orleans. There's a wall and it shows like this many. million like just this company made this many million crates like just things you don't think about like or just rifles or whatever and yeah I'd love to make a video about like singer the sewing machine company they used to make like pistols like 1911s like you said Ford made the bombers uh what was some of the I made a video in the M18 helcat I'm pretty sure it was Buick
Starting point is 01:56:38 no sure it's just all these companies just spun up and they just did what they needed to do and they manufactured a shit ton because that's like Ford I know they rolled out a lot a lot of planes right yeah I don't know the exact numbers it's something I want to get into that's another level of meaning and like purpose behind your work that's what I mean yeah what what is the workplace because like I don't know we've all been to a job that we're just like I'm literally just here for money I'm not passionate about this at all it's like what is it like when everybody or damn near everybody knows a kid, whether it's their kid, a nephew, the kid down the street that they watched
Starting point is 01:57:24 grow up for the past 10 years is like, oh shit, my car factory that I've worked at for 15 years, we're making tanks right now and that kid is going to potentially drive in this fucking tank. Yeah. And like every little thing I do might save his life or whatever. Like, that's crazy. There's a couple of times I feel in history where there's been a national spirit. And I don't know that it even always like has to. be war. I think sometimes
Starting point is 01:57:50 there's just that kind of meaning and purpose behind something that we're building as a nation. And it's important that we get this done. I think the closest thing for like me would be like Hurricane Katrina. We're like something like that. And we were doing like fundraisers and sending food and water
Starting point is 01:58:06 and all kinds of stuff. Like it's the closest thing I've ever experienced. I don't think it's anything to scale. But yeah, it's like the one thing from my own. I was literally going to mention. I was down. I live on the, well, I'm not going to say where I live. But that's why I was from that area. And like, so I remember that 05 era seeing, yeah, communities come together.
Starting point is 01:58:26 But that also had a big impact of me wanting to join like the military because I saw the guard come out in force and just like, holy crap, just people all coming together. I like seeing that all the natural disasters and I don't like seeing natural disasters, but people coming together. Everyone's saying something. We're all coming together. I love seeing natural disasters. Major When we took all the land From the Native Americans
Starting point is 01:58:51 That might have been a good That was like a national project That we could kind of all get behind That was kind of like Technically you're not I mean We all got together We rallied as a country
Starting point is 01:59:05 Places ours From the seat You're not We're giving you $5 an acre I don't know what the fuck The problem is Here's some blankets Why are they sick?
Starting point is 01:59:18 It's like, Jesus Christ. All I'm saying is we need another national project like that. Not like not exactly like that. Whoa. I mean, you're talking about Greenland trying to get that. A national project. Greenland, you're our next project. You're going to pull us together.
Starting point is 01:59:44 Dude, Ford. 1941 made 900 or 691,000 automobiles and only 160,000 were for civilians. That's what I like to see. That's awesome. Or vehicles. You know, they're going back to them again today now for the first time since World War II. They're going to Ford GE and they're asking them to start helping with military production at scale. Thank fuck.
Starting point is 02:00:10 No shit. Yeah. If you take a look, there's all these articles about them going over. the Pentagon going to Ford. That was Randy, by the way. I mean, it's sounds like Randy. That was,
Starting point is 02:00:23 well, what's the new Army light vehicle called? The ISV. ISV. The ISV is a Chevy Colorado. That's what it is. And it's like, oh,
Starting point is 02:00:33 well, let's have the Humvee where all the parts are different and unique and they have to be made by some contractor that manufactures shit very slowly. That way if shit does hit the fan, we run out of parts to fix it. Or we could just,
Starting point is 02:00:44 take the Chevy Colorado, which is already used to mass producing fucking everything. And then it's just, oh, it'll be harder for the civilians to find parts at O'Reilly's. It's like, why wouldn't you do that? It's what one World War II. Why would you change that?
Starting point is 02:00:58 I mean, so fucking Halliburton can make more money. Dick Cheney can buy an eighth heart. Fuck off. And he still has the other seven. It's crazy. It's just all pumping inside of. He's a space marine. It is, Randy got rid of what, the helicopter two, because they were over budget.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Remember the next generation helicopter that was supposed to happen? Yeah, because every helicopter pilot I've talked to, including multiple guys from 169th or what is, uh, Oh, 160th? Soor. Yeah. Yeah, 160th. The nightstockers. Like, I talked to some dudes that are like living legends from there and they're like, the VTol doesn't fucking work.
Starting point is 02:01:43 I showed you the videos like a year ago because the Marines have the Osprey. And he's like, even the pilots were like, I don't know what the fuck it is with having two whirligigs on top. But it creates this fucking cyclone current that fucks up everything around it. It's way worse. So like when you watch the Marines try to fast rope out of an Osprey, the rope, fast rope out of anything. The rope's hanging down by its own weight. And then they slide down. And Osprey, it's like the rope's out the back and it's coming down at like a four.
Starting point is 02:02:13 45 degree angle and the first dude down has to lay across the rope to hold it for all the other guys to get down. And then there's another video where they did an Osprey fly over for like a family FRG event. And it's like out at a park in the woods. And they go to fly over and it's folding the trees down and the family has to take off running because the wind currents coming off this thing are ripping the trees apart throwing shrapnel everywhere. Johnny, no. He's like, it just, it doesn't work. It's a bad idea. It's a bad design.
Starting point is 02:02:46 The one by Bell, I think is the one that won it. The valor. Yeah. And it should have been the other one, the one that looks like a submarine fucked a blackhawk. Do you know what I mean? It's got the fucking submarine propellers sticking out the back to go faster. Yeah. Oh, that pusher propeller.
Starting point is 02:03:03 So, man, I can't quote it directly, but I made a video about the Apache. And I was looking into it. So the, I think I determined inadvertently the Air Force forced us to create the Apache because we came out with the Cobra, and that was, the plan was to do the Cheyenne that had that pusher prop. Then the Air Force said, no, can't have that. That's our lane.
Starting point is 02:03:26 There's some kind of law or whatever. They got all butt hurt about it. So we got rid of the push propeller, put winglets on it, put bombs on it, have the Apache. But then, like fast forward, now we're looking at that pusher thing again. Personally, I think we should just go back to like turbo prop planes. Like the freaking, what's that one they did?
Starting point is 02:03:48 The Skywarden or whatever. Yeah. Just go to that. It's so much cheaper. Well, they kind of are with that. What's the uparmored crop duster they were making? The wing and ground concept, you're talking about?
Starting point is 02:04:00 It's literally a fucking up armored crop duster prop plane that they were starting to go back to just because it's got some ridiculously high loiter time. for like special forces guys. Oh, I know what you're talking about. The Super Takano? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:13 Yeah. Like, it's just like, at least they'll have something there at all times. Right. Especially if it's against a not a near peer enemy. You know what I mean? Like, why wouldn't you? Not everything has to cost a billion dollars. Well, yeah, it's why the A10 is just constantly staying, staying alive.
Starting point is 02:04:31 I hate that they try to stop it, though. Like, no, it's like, please tell me, when does this not work yet? I get so annoyed. You know it doesn't even work that great against tanks? When's the last time we fought somebody with tanks, first of all? It's got the highest kill rate of friendly fires of any other plane. Okay, A, that's horrible. That's awful.
Starting point is 02:04:52 I completely acknowledge that. Also, it's the only plane designed to shoot people on the ground. So kind of fucking makes sense. Not trying to be a dick about it. But what do you expect? Yeah. Ground soldiers still feel at ease when they know one's in the air, too. Oh no.
Starting point is 02:05:09 Wait, we have A10's on set. Okay. Yeah, fuck yeah. We're good. If something goes awry. Hey. Yeah. What's up?
Starting point is 02:05:20 J-tag. Yeah. When the Decepticons were about to win, what did we send? A10 wardhawks. Play the scene. Man, have you seen this shit? We need air support and we need it now. It's the helicopter was the, what would, it's the bell.
Starting point is 02:05:37 It's the bell. The Scalar. The Scalar sky. Right? The bell, the valor is what like won the contract. Yeah. It's the billion. And then they just, and then Randy is the one that's like, hey, oh.
Starting point is 02:05:48 So he's seen the bill. He was like, what the fuck? And then when it would come out, it was going to be out of date anyways, right? Probably. And then on top of that, his main focus was, okay, expensive. And then watching what was happening in Ukraine, why are we doing this instead of like an unmanned system? and then spending money in that field. And it was still like five or ten years off.
Starting point is 02:06:13 It was just a smart choice. It's like looking at something and be like, why are we doing this? Why are we investing this? I don't know why we don't give units 3D printers. I have things I'm not allowed to talk about yet that I'll tell you later. I'm excited. You'll whisper it in my ear.
Starting point is 02:06:30 I'm excited. This is great. Dude, so on your side, what's the do you get to do anything new or cool or is it just like hey day to day activity is a normal job so it i cannot remember the army changes its training cycle name like all the time like it used to be called rearm i don't know what the hell is called now you probably know i don't i don't think so like you know like it's uh so the i'm just going to speak for the army so like the first year is like you know train up or whatever or like reconsolidation whatever the hell
Starting point is 02:07:04 it's called and then next two years you're kind of training up and then you have your big culminating events. So it's like NTC's what we do for armor, JRTC, whatever the hell. Then you deploy or your ready year, mission year. But you have a year in there that's called modernization, and that's when you're getting all your new stuff. So, because you know everything's based on your m-toe of your unit.
Starting point is 02:07:25 So, like, they may say, hey, now we want to add, like you mentioned Grenadier, like that's changing. Well, like a couple years back, they said, hey, sapper squads need a designated marksman rifle. So they gave us these new HK. 416s. No, these were. No, actually, yeah, I think they were.
Starting point is 02:07:44 Yeah. But it was called the M110 DMR. Okay. Yeah. Which, by the way, that parts list on that thing. It was like every top tier off the shelf, like, Geisley, this, LaRue, that, like everything. Side note.
Starting point is 02:07:57 You know who's a designated marksman for their unit? Who? Ethan. Really? For his... Long balls was? Yeah. He was dead.
Starting point is 02:08:06 He was designated marksman when he was a tanker. And you know what he carried for his entire deployment? M-14? Yes. No. As a tanker? He's got some of the hardest deployment pictures I've ever seen. Skinny Ethan rocking a decked-out M-14 sitting on a tank.
Starting point is 02:08:24 Yes. Hell yeah. I'm surprised. I had. Bro, Ethan looks hard as fuck in those pictures. It's awesome. Still trying to wrap my head around. I didn't even know they had designated marksmen in tanker.
Starting point is 02:08:35 I didn't know. We got, Pop open the hatch. You get a quick. M14's kicked in. I want to say like three or four months into deployment for us. So like, hey, switching these. If you're SDM, it's here, you're getting these.
Starting point is 02:08:50 And we're like, oh, fuck yeah. These are dope. They work better too for certain jobs. So we were, I did not know. Ethan had one. Ethan's got some gangster deployment pictures with this EBR fucking M14. Skeletonized. sniper Ethan
Starting point is 02:09:07 his ball sacks in the air so he knows when the winds change so he knows when the winds change so accurate what the fuck no I never knew that so I continue oh no if they give us
Starting point is 02:09:27 yeah so they'll figure out if we need new stuff whatever like right now like I know our unit or our brigade like they're fielding the new tank like the V3 version I think last year they got the new paladins 1-5-5s Which by the way, like that was
Starting point is 02:09:41 That was the most I think I can say this not because I had the biggest Freedom Boner at AT out in the field Man just those 1-5-5s were going off In the distance literally in a Porter John Feeling that thing rock Literally scared the shit out of me
Starting point is 02:09:57 I love it oh my God Don't stop yet One more volley I love it I'm Happy and upset at the Russian tank situation with the Ukraine war because I was so sick of here.
Starting point is 02:10:10 Russian tanks are actually better than American tanks and then it's just, oh, look at the Bradley's fucking up all the Russian tanks. Look at our non-tanks. Yeah. Look at our aluminum infantry support vehicle. Shit rocking you guys. Those take people places.
Starting point is 02:10:27 Yeah. But then on the counter side, it was like, I don't know, Russia was this big scary boogeyman in the closet for decades. decades and decades and decades. And the whole reason NATO exists was to control Russia. And then Russia comes out swinging and not hard enough to take out Ukraine.
Starting point is 02:10:47 And everybody's like, wait a minute. What's this whole NATO thing about again? And now NATO's like on the rocks super hard. Yes. Yes. Yeah. That's why I always said that exact same thing. People want to pretend that like Russia is going to invade Europe tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:11:02 But I mean, it's the reason why we're seeing us pull back from Europe right now. Like, we're pulling so many troops out because Russia revealed that they can sock at war. And the Europeans don't kind of don't need us. And, like, they can do it on their own. But, yeah, NATO's having, like, an identity crisis because of that. I think China would have, the same thing would happen. I believe that's exactly. China's too embedded in Europe.
Starting point is 02:11:26 No, I mean, like, if we seen what their capability was because they don't do war, that's where you're going to be like, oh, what the fuck were we afraid of? military equipment failure, all those little things where... That's why they're trying to just build up an insanely large force so they can overcome their incompetence. It's that... Same way that I used to play Command and Conquer when I was growing up. Great real-time strategy game, but the strategy is, since I'm not good at strategy, I'll just build up an insane force of tanks
Starting point is 02:11:57 that's so large that I can overcome the fact that I can't think three steps ahead. Capi, what's your strategy? A bunch of Chinese... Billion peasants. Asians as far as I can see. I mean, that's what took out. That's why, like, Knights and Armor came to an end. Because somebody finally figured out, like, okay, well, these guys are unstoppable,
Starting point is 02:12:17 unless eight dudes unarmored with daggers jump on his back and open his face masks and stab him in the head. It's like, yep, that'll do it. So people that don't evolve in combat are the ones that lose, what's his name? Miyamoto Masashi. No other Sun Tzu The Japanese general Before Yoshimoto
Starting point is 02:12:40 Unified it was Or Yuro Yogi Nobunaga Nobunaga is like Now we're going to use guns We're going to use guns We're going to use guns Just wait until they get here
Starting point is 02:12:50 And they fucking shoot them And then they're like It's so dishonorable We don't care your fucking dead Write it right in your tombstone Yeah He cheated Cool story
Starting point is 02:13:00 He's like, you go back to like, he's cheated. He's shot at us. Like, did you lose?
Starting point is 02:13:06 Yeah. He's coming here. It's fucking wild. Well, where can we find both of you for, or where can the internet find you guys? YouTube.
Starting point is 02:13:24 YouTube at Tactically Acquired. Find me at Capi Army on YouTube. If you'd like to check out some of the videos there. And then I think if we have time for an after show, you guys go, I do like a quick average.
Starting point is 02:13:35 Yeah, we do. Can I, can I pee real quick? After we close. Hold on with that. You're about to pee. And then I'll join you. We'll sit together.
Starting point is 02:13:42 Thank you for coming to the unsubscribe podcast. I was joined here today by Eli Double Tap. Chris Cappy from Cappy Army. Our new friend Nick over at tactically acquired because he stole my shit. And I am donut operator. Thank you for coming. We love you.
Starting point is 02:13:58 His name's Black Nick. Damn right, I stole that shit.

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