Unsubscribe Podcast - The REAL Story Of The Abbey Gate Afghanistan Withdrawal | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 239

Episode Date: November 16, 2025

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Starting point is 00:03:29 Hi everyone. Welcome to the unscribed podcast. I am joined today by Eli Double Tap, Tyler Bargis Andrews, Brandon Herrera, myself Donald Operator. Thank you so much for being here. My God, that's we're doing that not in front of 2,000 people. It's kind of nice. I know it's quiet in here. It's nice and calm. This would be way more embarrassing if there was 2,000 seats and they're just just show it. We're like, well, we're retired. next week. Why did you need this menu? Do you guys get nervous when you go on stage? Oh, yeah, dude. That's what the hell calls for. Yeah. I don't really get the nerves too much anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:10 No? Yeah, it's, you're just professional politician now. Oh, I'm going to like this one. That hurts. Sorry, sorry, I'm sorry. Just twisted a little bit deeper in the ribs. No, it's the, like the first show. Like, we got a little bit of, like, the adrenaline and stuff, but I think now
Starting point is 00:04:27 we're just comfortable with what we're doing. Yeah, I'm getting. way more comfortable that's awesome used to be i'd take a nap before every show how long like 20 minutes 30 minutes he like and straight up nap anywhere it's that old man energy let's say that old man in that military just yeah what's up buddy hey welcome we i mean we were excited this is part of the veteran month so this entire november it's like hey let's do these episodes with some veterans other than brandon oh fuck and just And always we're doing something with giving back to the community.
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Starting point is 00:06:03 incredible Gary Sneease Foundation I mean we spoke about it briefly at lunch but Gary himself is one of the most incredible Americans I've ever met personally and he's been there for me every step of the way in my family but yeah I mean they they just do an incredible amount for the country as a whole so it's pretty awesome a lot of people might have him for uh for something else so right yeah yeah do you make him say that lieutenant dan i brought you some ice cream and in uh in their headquarters in franklin they've actually got like the bench from forest gump with no shit box of chocolates on it yeah the whole backdrop and everything that's cool so you can take a photo there if you go visit but so you you actually told me something earlier that i didn't know
Starting point is 00:06:49 because i had always heard the story with gary sinise that um what got him involved in you know working with veteran nonprofits and, like, really, like, getting impassionate about it was playing the role of Lieutenant Dan. Yeah, so that, that, I mean, that's, I would say that's what skyrocketed, uh, everything for him. But his history with working, working with, working for veterans and the American community as a whole, I mean, it's, it started when he was 17 or 18 years old on Broadway and just crazy, uh, Vietnam vets were coming back from overseas, you know, physically and mentally
Starting point is 00:07:21 wounded. And he was just, yeah, just zero support. Yeah, just zero. support and he was hearing their stories sharing their stories working with them you know on stage in theater and whatnot and just became an advocate from from a very very young age but he's i mean it's just multiplied i mean a millionfold i don't even know but he's he's an awesome awesome awesome individual personally i've had you know quite a number of conversations just with him one-on-one and he has been nothing but genuine it's awesome as you were saying he's like you know it's a good
Starting point is 00:07:55 dude and truly cares because he texts you every couple of months. It's like one of those things that it's a veteran thing I thought where it's like, I got to do my homey checkup. Just like, hey, how are you doing? What are you doing? How's your mental health? Yeah, he remembers more things about my life going on than I do. I'm like, damn, yeah, oh, you're right.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I did have that going on. But he'd be like, how's your little brother doing? How's your little sister doing? You know, how's your mom? And yeah, he's been awesome. He was there for my mom when I was in the ICU at Walter Reed. And I woke up and inpatient one day. And she was like, hey, Gary Seneese wants to give you a phone call and FaceTime you when you're, you know, when you're ready.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And I was like, who is that? And she was like, Gary Seneyce. And I was like, Mom, I don't know. I don't know what you're saying right now. And she was like, Lieutenant Dan. And then I was like, oh, no fucking way. I was like, are you serious? I was like, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I was on the phone with him like an hour later. And I was just like, hey, man, I'm here for you as, you know, as a friend and your family, anything you need. Let me know. So it's been that way ever since. it's nice to know like those those are the types like Keanu Reeves and stuff like that's like okay they are actually that nice person pretty unbelievable I mean you gotta have a ton of mental capacity to meet that I mean you guys know too but meeting that many people and just having to be the most real authentic version of yourself all the time fakeness will come through if you try to do that the entire time it's gonna peek its head and then go down in a fireball now you my favorite thing to hear it real quick is just like Like when people meet us or like people like that, they're just like, oh, yeah, you're exactly the same in person. It's like, no, it's not because like, oh, you know, it's not morally.
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Starting point is 00:11:01 But yeah, it's still super appreciate all you coming out. Now, Mr. Tyler, you are military, former military. What year did you join? I enlisted in 2017. Give the low down. All right. I'm Marine Corps veteran. I'm in 2017 out of Northern California.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I grew up in Northern California, and I was stationed at Camp Pendleton, California, not, I don't think there's probably a better place to be stationed as a Marine, a better, worst place. You have access to everything and a lot of fun, great time. When you say everything. Everything. Yeah, pretty much everything. I think, man, probably 2019, in the 2020, we had like 10 dudes all at once get busted in a cocaine and steroid ring. so yeah unfortunately some dude got beat up and they moved
Starting point is 00:11:59 unfortunately they got busted yeah yeah they moved all the grunts to where all the pogs live and yeah as you can expect it was like 100 infantry Marines 200 infantry Marines versus
Starting point is 00:12:12 everyone else who wasn't and a lot a lot of things happened there but yeah no I unless in 2017 I went to boot camp MCRD San Diego and then I was in 0-3-11 I just you know I knew I knew that being I grew up I didn't grow up seeing the you know dress blues marine fighting the lava monster and the dragon but I saw like the recon Marines coming out of the water and you know I had no idea that recon Marines and SF and
Starting point is 00:12:41 Marsok were all different things I was just like yeah I want to be special operations or I want to be special forces and then my recruiter's like you're a fucking idiot and he was I ended up scoring like a 90 or 91 on my ASVAB and he was like you're not going to be a grunt and I was like that's the only thing I want to do yeah and so went that route I went to school of infantry
Starting point is 00:13:06 west at Camp Pendleton as well once I got out and I was in early 2018 and then I went to second battalion first Marines segmental in first Marines I was a boot very junior Marine that's you know the derogatory phrase
Starting point is 00:13:22 but the proper phrase is, you know, being a boot. And I got NJP pretty early on. Oh, what'd you do? Yeah, non-judicial punishment. Oh, what did you do? D-Y. What was that? No, not D-Y.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Jesus. You know what was crazy? That's always everyone's first, like, Article 15. No, no, not. It really, it was really dumb. He just comes out swaying and they're like, oh, yeah, I got this, this. Oh, did you beat your wife? Yeah, it's like, fuck, dude.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah, I was manslaughter. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. that poor family of five we were yeah we were out in the gas line district in san diego definitely not um underage drinking and i allowed uh one of my friends to alter my id um and so you know i was born in 98 we made it look like a like a three i think is what it was and i never used it like all the all the bars down in san diego all the clubs like they know fucking that's marine
Starting point is 00:14:18 you know central so like they let you in as long as you're not being a Jackass, and so I never used it to, like, buy alcohol underage, never even used it to get in the club underage. We were always able to get in, but right when I got to the fleet, so I got out of infantry school, like boot camp infantry school, got to the fleet. We were there like two months, two and a half months before our unit got back from their last deployment. And so it was just a lot of, like, you know, hard training and whatnot waiting for the unit to get back. And then they get back and your fresh Marines to the fleet and everyone fucking. hate you yeah everyone fucking hates you already just you know it's it's
Starting point is 00:14:54 tradition it's it's what it's supposed to be especially if they're just getting back from there oh yeah yeah and so you know they came back from their their war-torn country of Japan on their udiped oh god um
Starting point is 00:15:07 jerse bro you you're just watching anime for eight hours in this shut up um but yeah they uh they pulled us all in you know we're doing the whole like running around being uh being a young junior marine
Starting point is 00:15:21 learning things, getting things thrown at you physically and, you know, hypothetically, I guess. But they pulled all of us in one day and two of my buddies, there was probably about 10 to 12 of us that had had their IDs altered. And two of my buddies at the time, fucking dumb asses went to pass an ID and they're like, their chips and their cards like to, you know, to put them in the little cack reader, stopped working and so they needed to get new IDs
Starting point is 00:15:51 we're doing like annual training and whatnot and the passing ID place on base confiscated their IDs and they're like yeah you guys fucking altered their IDs
Starting point is 00:15:59 and they had drawn in Sharpie on the back of their IDs to thinking that that was going to cover their asses and make it look like they hadn't fucked with their IDs so they got them confiscated
Starting point is 00:16:09 called the battalion pulled all the military IDs they fucked with yeah yeah yeah they went to yeah they drew in Sharpie on them yeah
Starting point is 00:16:18 that is that is A federal property. Yeah. And so they pulled us in and confiscated all over IDs. And one of our staff sergeants at the time was, like, looking out for us. He pulled out like two more IDs out of the stack, and he was handing them back out. And our gunny at the time was like, let me see those IDs staff sergeant. And he was like, I already checked him, Gunny.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And he was like, I want to check him. And he was like, I already checked him, Gunny. He was like, give me the IDs. And he took the IDs room and pulled out like eight more. handed out all these IDs and there's like you know 10 of us standing there he's like all right if you didn't get your ID back see us in the company office and so we all go to the company office and everyone immediately just like you know we're like we're fucked this is the end of the world worst thing ever like this how does this happen and uh everyone but me accepted the njp like on the
Starting point is 00:17:15 spot they signed the paperwork they got the two weeks of restriction slap on the wrist and like you know nothing nothing really happened like some promotion restriction i my mom was a family law attorney my whole life uh grown up and she was always like if you ever get in any trouble legally like civilian or military request a lawyer like no matter what it is request a lawyer so i'm like i want to speak to a lawyer and they're like you what you want to speak to a lawyer and i was like uh yeah i want to speak to a lawyer and so i had to wait like three days and to get an appointment on main side and so i'm just i spend the next three days fucking cleaning the cp getting screamed out by every single person in the battalion and they finally get over to the uh to the lawyer and he was like
Starting point is 00:17:59 brand new fresh lieutenant jag and he was like hey uh well your njp paperwork says that you altered your id so you didn't your friend did you know according to your story so you know go in deny njp and like it's going to get fucking sent away so i followed his advice to go on there and denying JP, battalion Sergeant Major calls me up to his office, super thick, you know, Mexican accent, and he's like, you think NCIS isn't going to figure this shit out if I can, and I'm a stupid Sergeant Major, and I'm like, stand there at a parade rest, like, holy fuck, like my life's over. I've been in the Marine Corps for eight months, like, I'm getting kicked out, what the fuck's
Starting point is 00:18:35 's going on? And he slams my ID down on the table, opens his drawer, and he pulls out a razor blade, and he throws on the desk, and he was like, have some fucking integrity. and he sits there and he takes the razor blade and he's like scratching it back and forth across the spot that was altered and it's like getting stuck in that one spot the ID didn't look bad but
Starting point is 00:18:53 you know I was born in 98 like saying 93 it was you know messed with and so he's like it's like getting stuck and he was like if I can figure this shit out you think NCIS isn't gonna be able to figure this out I'm like fuck fucking he's like have some fucking integrity like tell me the truth I'm like Sergeant Major like this is what happened this is what the Jack told me to do
Starting point is 00:19:10 you know I made a mistake and he was like all right he's like thank you. He's like, I'm going to push for a 60105 or page 11, whatever it is. And I go back down. It's not up to him, though. It's up to the company level. So I go back down there. They pull my NJP paperwork, tear it up in front of me, type up new fucking NJP paperwork saying that your friend fucking altered it and NJP'd me. And, you know, it was like company level. At the time, I was like, oh, this is it, the end of the world. You know, I'm like, fucking tears in my eyes. Like, oh, my gosh, like talking to my squad leader, my platoon sergeant, and they're like, you're a piece of shit. Like, fuck you. but you know do better and so it was honestly the best thing that could have happened uh from then on out i was like i have to you know i can't fuck up where i can like got to learn to not get caught and so um you know from there on out i was like i need to be the you know the best that i can be and it was i was on my peas and cues and it was honestly the best thing that could happen i mean from there on out how terrified dude for anyone that doesn't know that is that would
Starting point is 00:20:09 be fearful especially your sergeant major yeah it was bad you're like doing that door knock fuck dude to go in he did one of those like it wasn't even like yelling it was just like low like hey you're fucking idiot like tell me the truth I was like oh fuck
Starting point is 00:20:27 Mexicans aren't major yeah it was good though man I mean I uh from there on out like I legitimately just I was like I gotta be as physically fit as I can be and learn as much as I can and you know I saw a lot of bad leadership in the Marine Corps but I'm very grateful
Starting point is 00:20:41 like my direct leadership, my squad leader, my team leaders, like they poured into me a lot. And, you know, anything that I could handle they gave to me. And I was the first person to get Meritoris who promoted to E4, above all my peers and most of my seniors. Yeah, after that, my promotion restriction perfectly lined up with the same month that I was picking up E3. So after that, I got Meritorious E4 and I got Meritorious E5 above all my peers. And so it was. Gared straight. Yeah, quite literally.
Starting point is 00:21:13 The second, dude, I can't even imagine them tearing it. Like, everyone signs it and you're like, oh, and a lawyer. Yeah. That would have been, you're thinking in your head is like, oh, yeah. Mom said this is a good idea. And then you see all the ice go like, like, do you ever talk to your mom about it after? Yeah. Well, that phone call, like, after I'm like, I was like waiting to go to legal and I'm in the car and I'm like, I got to fucking tell my mom.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And I was like, hey, I'm in a little bit of trouble right now. I got to go speak to a lawyer on Monday. it's Friday and she's like what the fuck did you do and I was like I can't tell you right now but it's not that I was like it's not that bad and it really wasn't that bad in the long run but I thought it was the end of the world so she was like you're you're a f***in idiot you know but um I can't believe this but yeah like it's a good she was like it's a good thing you're getting you're requesting a lawyer and I'm like it doesn't seem like it's a good thing everyone's like treating me like shit you know oh you were yeah I was terrified honestly I was like oh fuck
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Starting point is 00:24:10 imagine where your company and your battalion, because was everyone in the company or battalion that was like... Yeah, no, it was everyone in the battalion. Like, it was every, like, I'm walking past every... Four to 600 people. Yeah, I'm walking past every company office, and it's two stories. And it's just like, come here, yeah. Come here.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Oh, they're smoking you too? They weren't really smoking me. They were just screaming. And I mean, I would rather just taking fucking push-ups, like, you know, hold a plan, or squat, whatever, but they were just fucking screaming, like, you're the worst, you're the worst. Like, I'm just like, yeah, I think I am, you know.
Starting point is 00:24:45 It's like, oh, it's hive mind. Yeah. There's no. It was bad. But it, I mean, it worked. It really did work. And honestly, you know, I don't know, I can't say that, you know, my trajectory in the Marine Corps would have necessarily been different, but I was definitely like, okay, like, I got
Starting point is 00:24:59 to make a name for myself. And, you know, I'm grateful that I had the leadership that I did. And, yeah, it worked out, I would say. Or maybe it didn't, I don't know, but. Free parking. Yeah. Yeah. God.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Always the light at the end of the time. It's like, well, no property tax. That's pretty fucking dope. You're like, mm. So during that time, what was like one of the dumbest soldiers you had met? Because you had to have some dumb bucks in that time frame. Oh, man. I'm trying to think of like a really
Starting point is 00:25:39 All right I'll share one like One personal guy that was in my in my squad He was in my one of my teams When I was when I was a boot We're in 29 palms And you know we're a desert training I won't share his name
Starting point is 00:25:57 But we're in desert training and he The Marine Corps had fielded the Like the M27 DM variants So, like, they were at that time, you know, 2018, they're the only ones that had IARs, the HKM 27s that had a suppressor and they had like a, I don't know, maybe a two to 12 times scope on it or a four to 12 or something. Our Marines got this? Yeah. I mean, it was kind of like a, you know, it shoots 5, 5, 6, but it was like the, hey, here, every squad gets one of these or, you know, three to every squad or whatever it was. They knew they needed to overbuild them for the Marines, essentially.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah, exactly. And, because the rest of us, like, at that time when I got in, team leaders and squad leaders had M4s and 203s and then everyone else was getting fielded at M27. So we all had IARs. And we got a 29 palms and it's like a battalion level exercise or company level exercise. And one of these dudes in my team, he's, we're doing like EDL, like doing counts, everyone, you know, they're counting for all these, all this gear and stuff. And they're like, all the DMs, like all the DMs come here. You guys are going to go do this range or whatever it was. And they're like, Marine, where the fuck is your suppressor?
Starting point is 00:27:12 And they're like, we're like, what's going on over there? And I'm like, Marine, where the fuck is your suppressor? And he was like, it's back at the Hoogh staff sergeant. And, you know, we're, I don't know, 20 miles outside of like where we were, like, staying for training. And, like, we're in the field. And he was like, oh, well, I was told to. take it off like if you know if we're not running if we're not like using it if we're not shooting if we're in garrison i was you know i was told i could take it off like yeah but retain it you
Starting point is 00:27:42 know what i mean like take it off and retain it so it's not smacking on shit or whatever he's like he's like and and then they're like hey word got around that he was in my team and or in my squad or whatever it was and they started saying like lance corporal or you know pfc fucking vargas is is missing his suppressor like you stupid bitch like talking about me and I'm like this is not me
Starting point is 00:28:07 like I didn't lose my suppressor and everyone's like hey and then I just fucking I got flashbacks you know I'm getting screamed at like dude like hey this is not this is not me
Starting point is 00:28:18 like he's in my squad he's not in my team or whatever it is and then like they're trying to mitigate the problem like guys in my squad and my platoon are trying to mitigate the problem like it wasn't Vargas
Starting point is 00:28:27 like it was so and so but you're getting bullied on his behalf yeah everyone's like hey you know this first sergeant this gunny this staffs are like hey you stupid bitch like you're a piece of shit i'm like dude oh not again and uh i didn't even
Starting point is 00:28:39 do it this time exactly and uh so i go back i volunteered to go back with him i was like at least i can do is fucking like help this dude and so we go back the hootches are locked so we drive like an hour back to wherever the hooches are locked it's just those you know you cut the can't you cut this can in half and it's lay sideways on on the ground and that's like what you know we're staying and and uh the hooch is locked and i'm like how the fuck are we going to get this dude's suppressor and there's like a window like this big like that fucking big up top and so i like boosted his ass up he goes in there climbs to the window and gets his suppressor and we come back and missed all that days that entire day of training and like we're we're sitting there with motor
Starting point is 00:29:20 tea and like same thing like every staff and ceo is just coming down the line like you're a piece of shit like you do like how did you lose your suppressor i'm like dude this this was not me but that was uh that was a that was your boy you're a piece of shit like you do and like you do this is this was a boy next to you just like yeah quite literally he's just like I'm not going to throw him under the bus but I'm like hey like it wasn't me and uh you can say his name right now if you want no no no it's all right I I that same so to to kind of uh allude to that a lot of you know they call they call your junior marines your peers they call them your sisters right so like my sisters my other my other buddies uh I had become like the first boot team leader
Starting point is 00:30:00 you know second boot team leader in our platoon and uh you know we're all getting uh trained hard and well right and so you go you go and like someone fucks up in the in the fire team or on the squad or whatever you know kind of mass punishment uh pretty often and so you know you're going and doing your your thing in the barracks room or wherever it may be and we come back from cold weather mountain warfare training in bridgeport and our company commanders like Or, yeah, Northern California. Okay. So it's like near, it's near Mammoth, Northern California this year, Nevada's.
Starting point is 00:30:35 But we did our Mountain Warfare Training Centers there for the Marine Corps. They do like summertime, like the horseback riding or like wintertime, do winter mountain leader and like teach you to ski and shoot off skis and do stuff like. Still do horse riding? Yeah. Yeah, special operations will go up there, do training and like fight off a horseback and stuff. Okay, that makes way more sense. Yeah, yeah. And fight off horseback.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Well, okay, maybe that doesn't make. sense horses with that scare the shit out of them with the guns you'd be surprised the relevance of horse warfare goes way later than you think yeah it was there were a million used in world war two i mean they were yeah i mean even in afghanistan yeah literally in afghanistan they were still using it's just oda 595 yeah yeah it's but yeah they still they still teach it there and uh we come back so they're lining us out you know we've got all our extra cold weather gear company commander is checking out everyone, you know, making sure everyone's got their shit so they can turn it back in. And that same dude is like, hey, so-and-so was like hazing me, like, right in front
Starting point is 00:31:42 of the company commander. Like, and, you know, he was a little bit of softy. And, uh, yes, I would say so if you go, he's like, so-and-me, he's like, so-and-so is like hazing me. But he wasn't saying it to the company commander. He was saying it to someone else. But, like, when so-and-so was hazing me at this time, and the company commander's like right fucking here. whatever right behind him and the company commander our company commander he like kind of looks back and he just doesn't even say anything he just like keeps going down the line and uh and then our fucking leadership direct leadership's like you guys are all getting f*** up like for him saying that you guys are you guys are getting fucked up and i'm like i am i'm sick i getting
Starting point is 00:32:18 up for this dude i was like straight up i was like hey i'm not i'm not fucking paying for his mistakes anymore i was like i'll if you guys want to watch me beat his ass like i'll fucking box him Like, I'll do whatever. Like, I'll be his ass in front of all of you. Like, I'm not, I'm not doing this shit anymore. Like, he fucks up, he f***s up too much, you know. So he f***s up too much. And they're like, all right, well, he has to be okay with it.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And I was like, he's going to be okay with it. Like, we'll make this happen after work. And so I'm like, hey, you and I, like, I've got boxing gloves. You and I are going to go, going to box in front of so and so, you know, at the end of the day. Because I'm not getting fucked up for your bullshit anymore. And he was just like, okay. And so, you know, sure shit we go. and like body shots
Starting point is 00:32:58 turned into face shots and yeah it went as expected you know it was good but that was kind of the end of that as a young junior marine
Starting point is 00:33:07 dude you you fuck like it was funny it's weird because that's a one way they learn it's unfortunate but they will continue
Starting point is 00:33:14 to fuck up but when you do like that push of punishment where it's I've watched dudes have to low crawl a mile yeah and like rock
Starting point is 00:33:22 you're like no fucking low crawl like keep low crawl like just keep keep it going and it is rock they're getting cut up and they're just like you can't pick your face up on the ground you're just sliding and it is around a track and around a track it was like oh they really fucked up but again different military at the time because it was like mass punishment was quite all right. I mean like as we are all very well aware it's unfortunately
Starting point is 00:33:51 changing now but it's at the end of the day yeah it's a war they're war fighting organizations that's it period nothing else it's a war fighting organization if you can't handle getting screamed at or getting fucking punched in the face you probably shouldn't be there you know you're not gonna like getting shot at I promise exactly yeah if you're worried about a name being called yeah battlefield not the place for you yeah what is it do you that you think we do here yeah exactly that's why I never understood especially like infantry level it's like yo homies this is why do you have a problem with this you're gonna get fucked up yeah learn or die, literally learn, be the best you can, or die, and kill people along the way because
Starting point is 00:34:32 you're stupid or weak. Don't get me wrong. I mean, there are times it's cross the line, but I mean, everything that I've seen in the Marine Corps infantry for the most part firsthand is like, hey, if you feel like you're not being treated like a man, you know, you fucking speak up and you say something. And speaking up is either verbally saying something or, you know, blows are being thrown and that's that. but there's only like a couple instances in and around the regiment where like dudes were
Starting point is 00:34:59 legitimately getting haze like someone someone's name was like swim like legitimately their last name was swim and like they were being made to swim like in the bathtub and like some absurd shit and like a gas mask and stuff like ridiculous you know pretty ridiculous stuff did he fuck up a lot i can't confirm her deny i don't know but that's always the one thing And you're like, mm, what they do, though? He's squirtishly soldiers. Eli just hit him with the what was he wearing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:30 What was he wearing? He deserved it. It's your lord. So, fuck, man. And then your first, was it your first deployment when everything happened or? So that was my second, the first deployment. I mean, you know, they call it the booze crews, the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit. So it's, we were on and off ship for months at a time in between, uh, and Indo-Pacom.
Starting point is 00:35:59 So it was, uh, Indo-Pacific Command. That was South Korea, Japan, Australia. And thank you for your service. Thank you. It was a blast. Yeah. So tough. It sounds rad. So was the second. It's so cool. Yeah, it was a second. Yeah. What ship were you guys on? Sorry. That was good. That was right over my head. Yeah. That was good. It was, it was a blast. So, yeah. both of them Australia was
Starting point is 00:36:25 I got so nervous when you didn't laugh No no I honestly I was still processing what he said I can't honestly really hear out of my right ear So if like I miss anything He's got the better ear But
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yeah no That's funny Oh my gosh Yeah cancel this guy Yeah How fuck How long were you there Second
Starting point is 00:36:46 Second blast or first blast First blast That was like Six or seven months months um that was in 2019 so i think we left in like april of 2019 but yeah we went to we flew you know like flew from the u.s to germany to japanua uh to okinawa and then we were in okinawa for weeks to a month or so and then we went on ship for a month or so traveling around yeah it was it was a blast man we got to cut the free dive off the coast of japan spear fish i mean that's fucking cool
Starting point is 00:37:17 Did you ever been outside of the country before? One time in 2017, my mom took myself and my siblings to the Bahamas for like a week. And that was like the only big family vacation we'd ever gone on. But now that was like my first time being like immersed into a culture. And, you know. Their eyes are so slanted. It was, it was cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Japan was awesome. People were great. We caused a lot of problems. You definitely understand. I mean, why? Prices are jacked up around military bases and people don't want to interact with you sometimes. So we would go, me and my friends, like, the smart Marines would go far away from base, you know. And then South Korea, right in.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Yeah, exactly. I get the tape out. Yeah, I think they're buying it. We're like, you know, we're like grunting and pointing to order stuff in the menu, you know. Pull the wall on the gossamos. South Korea was awesome I mean that was all just like live fire training and we were just a little south of DMZ
Starting point is 00:38:22 Camp Rodriguez and a few other places in South Korea but that was a fun time we were supposed to go to Seoul and ended up halfway there drunk off a train and had like actual Korean barbecue but we spent a lot of time like training and also like playing fucking soccer with the Rock Marines and Republic of Korea
Starting point is 00:38:41 Australia probably by far my favorite. I mean, they just, they fucking love Americans, man. Like, I don't know if you guys have ever been to Australia or not, but... I've always heard that from other sailors, especially the women. They just fucking love. Yeah, it's the truth. American dudes. Yeah, and I mean,
Starting point is 00:38:56 unfortunately, domestic violence is, like, a significant part of their culture for men against women. Yeah. That's what they told us in our cultural briefs. And they're like, hey, if you see, like, women getting hit or yelled at, like, don't do anything.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And, you know, there were Marines, that definitely tried to stop. Yeah, yeah. The same brief for Iraq. Yeah. I didn't see any of it, but we had a great time, like, with, you know, with the men and the women, take that however you want. But it was fun, man.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I mean, it was really cool to see another country like that. I mean, the reason, anyone listening, the reason why they love us so much is because of our rich roots back to World War II and World War I. But, you know, they, they, they. are just as patriotic as we are honestly i like true patriotic america like true patriotic americans it was the same over there i mean they had in sydney i remember they had like massive like war memorials and a lot of it was like filled with american history and like americans of world war two and like what we did to help them um that was like colony siblings yeah yeah exactly um it was it was awesome i mean
Starting point is 00:40:10 it was just i was at that point where i became a boot team leader and i was an e4 so like They're like, hey, you guys are ported in Sydney and Brisbane for like four or five days. Any E4s or team leaders can, you know, get a Liberty Pass to get a hotel in both of these cities for the weekend. And so we just got to go party for, you know, four days, five days at a time. And then we were doing mock helo rays into the outback and watching dingoes drag kangaroos around and shit and getting attacked by literally everything. I mean, you, everyone hears like how lethal Australia is. And I mean, we're getting eaten up, eating alive by the ants and the spiders. It's very real, right?
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yeah, yeah, no, they found out Australia. Big fucking spider, dude. That's honestly a horrifying thought. They don't like gays, man. I'm not gay. Please help. The kangaroo rips your arm off. I swear I don't like dick
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Starting point is 00:42:42 about how to check yourself or make a donation at tc society today help save lines and balls trim your pubs god damn it's moose sack summer it was funny because like one of the times we were doing uh they're doing like they brought c lb marines in uh combat logistics battalion marines into like land and do a mock like embassy recovery or reinforcement and they're like coming in out of or they weren't fast drooping but they're like getting off the ospreys and shit and there's literally kangaroos like on the LZ like pressing up on them like get the fuck away from us and they don't give a shit it's wild watching them like blow up they're nuts um like nope I'm good yeah I mean a lot of guys got to try like kangaroo uh there in Australia I didn't
Starting point is 00:43:28 get the opportunity yeah I missed out we just one of those like you get too drunk you're supposed to go to the zoo or go to go wherever and I don't think that's where you try kangaroos at the zoo there's like I got some they got some sort of tour infantry marine just like taking the free samples from the bass pro stocked pond oh this was a petting zoo the kids are screaming not stabbing zoo now that's a scenario I agree with your mom you should probably get in a turn
Starting point is 00:44:00 yeah probably yeah man shit yeah it was it was a good time but uh that that deployment is when I got we were in Korea and I got meritorsely promoted to E4 and then we came back, took over the squad. My squad leader became a platoon sergeant. And then I went to advanced infantry school, moved into 2020. What's advanced infantry school? So it's advanced, at the time it was advanced infantry course.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Now it's like, I don't know, like advanced infantry Marine Corps. The Marine Corps has changed a bunch of stuff. But it's like, it's pretty much your like squad leader school. so like you yeah i mean it's up to that point like i had great leadership so i'd been taught everything so school was like very like education wise i had already known everything it was just like one of those like checking the box you need to go do a bunch of hard shit physically and like pass um yeah like while you're learning while you're performing these tasks and whatnot and then uh came back and um my my buddy dalton he who was ended up sorry i got
Starting point is 00:45:10 My buddy Dalton, who ended up being my assistant team leader for my sniper team, he was like, hey, I am going to run the sniper screener. No one knows in the platoon other than our lieutenant and now you. I was like, you son of him. So he was one of my best friends. Like plenty of times where he was like, I was a boot. He was my first squad leader. And like he was like also my dad kind of in the Marine quality. I grew up without a dad.
Starting point is 00:45:40 or I had a dad for a little bit of my life, but he was like my dad in the Marine Corps and fucking we're brothers now, but that dude, like, taught me everything he knew. Train me very hard along with the rest of my peers and plenty times where I wanted to punch him in the fucking face and plenty times I have punched him in the face
Starting point is 00:45:58 and likewise to him. But I was like, you son of a bitch. Yeah, I was like, you son of a bitch, like I would have gone with you to run the screener. And he was like, well, let me see if like they're still accepting paperwork and it was like a Wednesday night we're in the field and by Friday morning
Starting point is 00:46:16 they're like hey if you can get your entire packet done like you can run the screener on Monday and I was like well run the screener we both got selected and then went into the sniper platoon I turned down school to go do the assessment selection for MArsoc and I ended up giving myself a hernia larger than the size of a quarter
Starting point is 00:46:35 and I'll write on my asshole and missed both sniper school and going to assessment and selection and so like i was stuck for weeks like couldn't even do a fucking push push up and uh i remember i like went into work is it bad yeah i went into work and i was like hey um doc like i need you to check this out and he goes all right you know drop your pants spread your cheeks and i do that and first words out of his mouth were oh my god and i was like dude are you fucking serious he's like that's bad i'm thinking like when you're describing you're like, oh, yeah, it's a hernia of the size of larger than a quarter.
Starting point is 00:47:11 A hemorrhoid, not a hernia. Okay, got it. I was like, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I was like, his intestines are wrapping around his butt cheek. I'm like, too, I was like, dude. Because I'm like, because you said the size of a quarter, I'm like, that's not bad. You're like, on my asshole. And I'm like, holy fuck.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yeah, no, sorry. And your guts are just like, my fault. Yeah, it was a hemorrhoid. Okay. Still, oh. Yeah, no. This? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah. Yeah. Pretty bad. They popped it. Yeah, they gave me, they gave me like, you know, fucking. cortisone cream and yeah like steroid cream and antibiotics to put on my asshole
Starting point is 00:47:44 every time I shit but yeah so I missed out on that and then you know fast forward a little bit through 2020 going to the end of 2020 there's just a lot of back and forth like hey you guys the Marine Corps had opened up all of
Starting point is 00:48:00 the CENTCOM deployments back to the entirety of the Marine Corps so for a couple years at least only 7th Marines who are based out of 29 palms out of the desert were getting those Middle East deployments. And so they opened it back up to the entire of the Marine Corps. We had one or two units from our regiment that pumped out right before us. And then it was our turn.
Starting point is 00:48:22 And it was a lot of like, hey, you guys are going. You're not going. You're going. You're not going. And then like two months before, a couple months before, they're like, all right, you guys are going. And so. Stand up with that.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Was it like standing up? Everyone's getting like, oh, we got to get everything ready and then stand down? Or it was like, hey, just keep all your kick good just in case. Yeah, I mean, we were, I mean, we were already preparing. We knew that we were going on deployment. We just didn't know what deployment we were going on. For a lot of it, it was already like, we were prepping for that for probably like six months or so. And then suddenly they're just like, hey, you guys aren't doing this.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And then we were already, you know, prepared to go. So then the back and forth started. But yeah, we were ready, as ready as we could be anyway. And then we went on that deployment. Um, and like for a sniper platoon, um, when sniper platoons were still a thing in the Marine Corps at that time, like every team, every sniper team goes to a different country essentially. So like, you've got the battalion, the unit, which is the battalion and the battalion's broken up into multiple companies. You got like, you know, three line companies, which is all like the grunts, like riflemen, whatever, machine gunners and stuff. And then you've got like headquarters company and then you've got weapons company and weapons companies made up of sniper. And heavy machine guns heavy mortars all that stuff anti-tank and so all the sniper teams they get reattached back to each individual company so we went to uh al jabber kuwait first uh with echo company and it was pretty cool because echo company is like where i came from that's uh the the company
Starting point is 00:49:58 that i grew up in and then went to snipers from there um this this was april i think also april 21 or so. You guys want hot, Kuwait. Yeah. Yeah. Humid is, it is just like walking through water. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Yeah. It's, oh, but it's 120. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's bad because it's right on the border of Iraq. And, yeah, we were there. And then they were prepping us to go into Syria.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, whatever happened with that. They're like, hey, all of the bases in Syria are going to be broken down and, like, you guys are going to follow and trace. and then one day they're like oh that's not happening anymore like you guys are going to fucking Saudi Arabia and so we went to Saudi Arabia yeah and as a show of force where I ran and then sat there for you know five months or whatever it was and just like the rest of the world watched Afghanistan fall over months and I was like sorry like this is something new for me
Starting point is 00:50:57 even Saudi Arabia because I don't even know what a deployment like I just forget we will send soldiers over there or Marines but what does that entail? it's like show force that means okay hey we got our vehicles we got overhead everything's covered but what is the deployment like with something like i mean it's just training i mean it's small small unit training and then like running ranges just really fucking working out and training like that's really i mean same shit you know what i mean yeah same shit but like i will say saudi arabia like people say like the sandbox like saudi arabia is a sandbox it's just sand dunes that's all it was it was a hundred yeah 125 127 degrees and fucking mile high dust storms just coming in
Starting point is 00:51:43 all the time and shit like dust storms a dust storm is insane because you can i could i could you won't see sav or show in a dust storm yeah they are gone like gone and you just have to park your vehicles and you're like yeah oh hey we cannot go where we're supposed oh okay everyone's stand down i just experienced one for the first time like a couple months ago we're up at uh isickman's place the Bozeman. Yep. And I'm sure it wasn't anything close to, like, what, what they were in Saudi Arabia. But I'd never, I didn't know that was even a thing that happened in this country.
Starting point is 00:52:13 But just suddenly we're outside, it gets really windy. And then immediately you're just hit, like you see this haze and you're just hit. And like, it's all in your fucking teeth and eyes and food. It's in Montana. Oh, Montana. Oh, yeah. Damn. I had no idea that happened out there.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I didn't either. I was just like, what the fuck just happened? Five minutes later, it's gone. These are guys. It is, it is, yeah, they're quick. and you got heat is that wave as you watch it come towards you and say because you're like oh fuck getting a vehicle not going restroom or anything well yeah and it starts out you see it like a mile out from you and then just suddenly you can't see you can't see you can't breathe like
Starting point is 00:52:48 nothing oh yes and the sandworms yeah yeah exactly they're heading east or wherever that direction is through that movie Cody would know and then you got like you know we're Marines so the sandstorms come and we're you know we have we're like staying in literal tents like little half dome tents that fit you know eight to ten people in them and sandstorms come and then you've got marines outside and they're fucking underwear with goggles on and like gas masks and just like fucking doing dumb shit out in the middle of the dust storm but yeah it was uh it was a it was a i mean it was a great time it was uh interesting for sure but i mean every day yeah we We got, yeah, I believe we got combat pay in Saudi.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I can't remember. But they were shooting, like, the rebels, whatever. I can't remember who it was. That was. Yeah, probably. They were shooting. The Zan people. So we're on Prince Sultan Air Base, and you've got, like, whatever entity is fighting the Saudis, whatever rebel entities, they're shooting rockets.
Starting point is 00:54:00 They know where we're at. We're on this tiny little barbed wire fenced base on the air base. And so they're shooting rockets and shit over us to hit the Saudis, but they won't shoot them on to us. So we obviously won't retaliate. And so we're just like hearing this shit go on occasionally. It wasn't like every day, but occasionally it's going on. Or it wasn't going on on on our side of base every day.
Starting point is 00:54:22 That's funny that they're afraid of you guys. So they're just like, oh, dude, I guarantee if a rocket accidentally hit them, they would kill that dude that shot it and drag him and be like Mr. Sorry Sorry He killed him for you No problem
Starting point is 00:54:38 We handled this one ourselves It was Yeah it was an interesting time I mean we They put the Marines So it was like Traditionally just Air Force And Army there
Starting point is 00:54:50 And they put the Marines A mile fucking this way On the farthest side of the base Away from like Everyone else So if you wanted to go get like Actual food You had to walk a
Starting point is 00:55:00 mile if you wanted to go use like the big gym you had to go walk a mile which just meant like you know a bigger tent but filled with fitness equipment but um they it sucks on base it anyway people that have done deployments to the big fob psychos you're just out in sector everything's really small types everything's good but on the big bases and the big fives falcon whatever maybe not falcon because they have like buses and bus routes but those ones are the worst because it is I got to go to the chow hall yeah group walk mile eat walk back yep gym walk mile walk back and then it's 125 degrees yeah it sucks cock now that's definitely yeah you're drinking like a liter of water on the way to go eat breakfast um yeah and it was funny
Starting point is 00:55:48 there was actually so i i actually almost died uh before um going in afghanistan and uh something funny he just said it's funny I almost died that's why I started laughing I was like the only dude that would start it's funny I almost died yeah how fucking dare you it's like you started that sentence it's funny so like I there was a running
Starting point is 00:56:11 joke in our team so our team there was six of us in our sniper team and the running joke like I was always like I make my own luck like I would always say that shit like you guys make my own luck and we're going to Kuwait to use the army sniper ranges there
Starting point is 00:56:26 so we're flying flying over there and we're walking back from from chow and there's a ladder like and and one of the guys was like go fucking walk into the ladder if you make your own luck like in the team was like oh yeah make my own fucking luck and i go run the ladder right and uh then we go to kuwait and i i hit like we got there it was like a second or third day we were there and i hit 315 front squat for the first time ever. I was like, fuck yeah. I had like a two-hour leg day. And then I went outside and I did sprints in 127 degrees, like sprint the straights, run the sides on this track for like, you know, two miles. And then I was like, man, I'm, I think I'm going to pass out.
Starting point is 00:57:10 And I like went and sat under an IDF bunker and I go back to our hooch. And I'm like laying there. I've got like, I felt like I had the chills. And I was like, do I have a fever? Like, what's going on? And I'm laying there and everyone's going to chow. And I'm, was like hey can you guys bring me back some food like i can't get out of bed right now and they're like yeah sure i think i'm like sick or something and then they come back i can't eat the food and i just start like pissing and shit and non-stop and it's like all night long fever and chills get up to go to breakfast and i was like i need you guys's help like put my fucking boots on like i don't know what's going on i'm like trying to hide it from my team leader and so we go to chow
Starting point is 00:57:49 and i'm like literally stumbling into chow and like i got to force myself to eat i don't want to eat and I'm I get like the you know I get powdered eggs and whatever fucking bullshit on my plate and I'm sitting there and I literally I'm like like start passing out in the middle of eating my food and my team leader sitting across for me and my boy Cooper and they're like yo yo like what the fuck's going on like and I'm like I need you guys to like drag me back to the hooch I got something's wrong I don't know what's wrong I love it's not the aid station yeah I love to sleep this off as I sleep in eggs we were yeah we were we were going to the field that morning and uh like we were going to teach marksmanship skills
Starting point is 00:58:29 to the line platoon and i was like no no i kept saying that too i was like no like i'm good i'm good like just get me back to the hooch like i'll be good i was like if you guys can throw my fucking pack on the truck like i'll be okay like i'll be all right so i convinced my i convinced him to let me go out to train and i just i sat in the back of a truck and i'm just getting worse and worse and fortunately my team leader his wife uh she's an air force uh nurse uh nurse and she was like, I think he's got rabdo. She's like texting him. Like we got Wi-Fi Pucks on their sick.
Starting point is 00:58:58 I think he's got rabdo. Like you need to fucking get him to the hospital. And she's in, she's in Saudi and we're in Kuwait. And he's, I'm like literally in and out of consciousness in the back of the high looks. And he's, my team leader's fucking like knocks on the window and I look up at him. And he's like, you're going to the hospital. And I was like, no, no, I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I'm okay. And he's like, no, you're going to the fucking hospital. And I was like, all right. And I'm slobbering on myself, like eating gummy bears. And they take me to the fucking troop medical center there. And they were getting ready to life flight me in a Kuwait city. And I was like, I'm not going into some random city in the Middle East. Like, no, sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:36 That's not happening. And this fucking old doctor walks out. And he was like, damn, I haven't seen Marines in a while. He's like, last time I was working on you, I was pulling you out of Fallujah. And I was like, well, I just hit a 315 front squat yesterday. Like, how's it going? I'm Tyler, you know? You bragging?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Yeah. As you're drilling. Yeah. I was rough. And he was like, they're, you know, taking my blood and stuff. He was like, yeah, you've got rabdo my analysis. Your kidneys, you're probably a few hours from your kidneys failing. This is like very severe.
Starting point is 01:00:11 You're lucky you got brought in when you did. You, like, could have died or gone septic or something. And I was like, oh, yeah, well, that's good. And then they just proceeded to dump fucking leader after a leader after a leader of IV fluid into me. And that was that. And then I go back and one of our, the fuck boy of our team, Andrew, he bought a mirror. Like he bought a cheap, shitty mirror at the Saudi, you know, I recovered from that. I thought it was the fastest cut of my life.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I lost, you know, like 13 pounds. And you're just pissing out muscle, right? Like, I lost like 13 pounds in two days. Your piss looks like dark. Yeah. When I was going through the Buds pipeline, my roommate was the class doc. And so every, like, every month or every other month, we have. some like new kid come in who was just like trying super hard to be a seal and he'd be like
Starting point is 01:00:55 my piss looks like dip spit yeah that's not good but yeah yeah yeah it's it's bad yeah i uh i recovered after like a month or two but it was a little bit of time off and uh we get back andrew buys a fucking mirror so we can all flexing you know in our tent after the gym and day one I broke it like I knocked it over and it fucking shattered on the floor and like you got seven years bad luck and same shit I was like I make my own luck like fuck you guys don't tell me don't tell me about that and uh you know we we end up going into Afghanistan a couple weeks later but uh yeah and so and they're like oh my team leaders always like oh you remember when you walked under that ladder and you broke that mirror like I think this is what happened like it what happens when you do that but I need to like yeah is luck contagious I'm still a firm believer I make my own luck but I call it stubborn
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Starting point is 01:04:10 task force crisis response. Um, he was trying to get us over there earlier. Uh, and, you know, higher than him higher than the Marine Corps at the time was like you guys can't go like nope and so we ended getting sent in quite literally at the last minute and for the non-combatant evacuation operation and you know I was we were in Afghanistan I think the latest someone was there was like 12 days from our unit maybe but we were I was in Afghanistan we were all worked for 10 days up until abbey gate to the blast and so kind of crazy to think about but like yeah literally 10 days in afghanistan uh until you know blast one off and that was 10 days turn around 10 days yeah they uh 11 for my assistant team leader like they sent we sent they made us send in one of the guys from our team a day early
Starting point is 01:05:02 and then yeah and and uh it was good honestly because he met up with some rangers and they taught him out of hot wire vehicles and so we got there we were just hot wiring vehicles and stealing shit like dudes were driving around luggage carts like conveyor belts like conveyor belts for planes to fucking take people around and shit and we hotwire to bobcat and had like a little forklift on the front and shit and that was like our main mode of transportation the grand theft off afghan yeah yeah this the wild west but i mean it was a blast sure yeah we we just had major capers on oh yeah really that's fucking cool bro wait so your your episode's gonna go go right after his that's awesome and his stories because i mean you know he's like a legend yeah
Starting point is 01:05:44 fuck bro some of the best moments it's like he's talking to frank you're like well i don't know if i'm allowed to say this because frank has problems when i talk about and then frank's like well i think well there's those issues just what is a war crime and what isn't and then what group he's with but you guys seem really good so yeah you can tell whatever story you want and he's like okay sorry cut the dude's throat I pulled my piss on and shot the two What's up?
Starting point is 01:06:13 I was saying thank you Oh wait, of course Yeah He's like oh we run I first shot three dudes with the M6 I was like bro What are these stories That's why
Starting point is 01:06:22 It was how casual he said it I guess was very He's proud of it He's proud of it Hey One of the comments I think On the shore I saw of him Was this dude gives PTSD
Starting point is 01:06:32 Yeah Such a good dude too Have you met him yet? No I met Don Graves Don's awesome Don's beer Don's beer cans over there
Starting point is 01:06:45 Oh really Yeah don's a good yeah I did yeah he I went to I think last year or early Yeah it was last year I went to the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation gala and Dallas I was invited to
Starting point is 01:06:55 And he spoke He actually like fell down on stage Like walking up on a stage to speak And they were like People were rushing to help him He's like get away from me He's like get the fuck away from me And he gets up
Starting point is 01:07:07 when you just talks. I mean, you wouldn't know that dude was 100 years old. He just fucking sharp as could be. I was going to get the energy too.
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Starting point is 01:07:26 I was like, what's the number? And they're like, oh, it's this. I was like, but we got you. Like,
Starting point is 01:07:30 well, that's fine. It's letting those guys go and do their final trips and everything. I mean, they're just, the numbers
Starting point is 01:07:37 are dwindling so fast because how old they are. I mean, pretty soon, a couple years, there's not going to be any more World War II vets left. I remember when I was a personal trainer at 24-hour fitness, and I remember when I got the, it was reading the news
Starting point is 01:07:55 that the last World War I veteran died. Yeah. Holy shit. I was like, that's wild. You're right. It's going to be that time frame when that happens with World War II. It's coming soon.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Like there's some stat about how many hundreds of World War II veterans are dying every day now. Oh, my gosh. We've got three on, so three, we're lucky to have three of them on. We want as many as possible. Any of those stories, like Korean War veteran Vietnam. It's like, let's capture those stories. Gee, what, we're going to be that sometimes.
Starting point is 01:08:21 It's going to be wild. It's like, I remember it. I mean, think about it. Those ripets were a super good. I mean, you think about it, it's been 24 years since the start of it already. Like, that's a while. That's a quarter of a century. My guys are retiring that I joined with.
Starting point is 01:08:40 It's fucking wild to me. Like, I got my, I was like, man, I joined over 20 years. Like, it's been two decades since I joined the military. When did you join? 2005 and got out in 2008. So you're like, what, 23, 24? When I was out. No, you're like 23 years old now?
Starting point is 01:08:57 Yeah, just 23 years old. And so you said you went through the Bud's pipeline? Yeah, yeah. I joined it in 2008. Yeah. Yeah, I was 90. I was 20. I was 20.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Damn. Then you were like, I was born in 1999. I was like, oh, my God. I'm ancient. I could buy cigarettes when you were born. Holy shit. It doesn't count. The age was lower.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Oh, man. Okay. So I love the tangents. We will go on sometimes. So you, this is 10 days. Yeah. And then. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:45 So we, uh, we went in. Uh, our team was originally tasked with like doing, uh, you know, doing some observation missions essentially on the Taliban and whatnot. Um, we, we flew in and like, they're like, oh, it's going to be, you know, going to be the fucking Alamo pretty much. And, uh, like, they're like, multiple planes have taken like machine gun and RPG fire coming in and you know we're coming in on C130 and we're blacked out going in and I remember this like brand new there was one dude and our team got like attached to you know us one of the platoons and this like young junior he's like E2 young fresh junior marine he'd been in the unit for like two months before we went on deployment
Starting point is 01:10:31 and he's like hyperventilating he was like like straight up hyperventilating and we're like descending into afghanistan and we're like you know like marine like so-and-so like hey like hey like it's okay it's all right like it's good and and the rest of us like we're stoked you know what I mean like we're anxious but we're we're excited I mean you know we spent yeah we spent fucking 20 years watching you know watching the GWAT and you know wanting to go do the thing and you know very We, yeah, I mean, really just, like, wanted to go help people and go kill the bad guy. And it was, it was like, wow, it's finally here. Young, dumb, and full of cum.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Exactly. That's all we used to say, brother. And it ended up, you know, it was unlike anything. I mean, anyone had seen since Saigon. And I remember we were sitting there. We get moved out. He ended up, that Marine, sorry, let me not skip over that. That Marine ended up calming down, but we're like, hey, like, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:11:29 verbalizing he literally was like I'm so scared like I'm terrified right now and we're like you're all right like we got you like it's okay and he calmed down his squad ear calmed him down we descend in and they're like all right you guys got to the fuck off the bird like set up the set up security set up a cordon and like you know the the uh the civilian terminal outside of hkaya amid karsai international airport in kubu had just been overrun the day before so like all of our guys there were the ones on the ground where you see the videos of like fucking civilians falling off the planes and like literally thousands of people running across the runway that was the day before like i got there with my team but
Starting point is 01:12:11 our team our assistant team leader and you know 40 other marines went that day they went the day before so they were there and they worked with 82nd airborne and rangers and everyone else to fucking physically push thousands of people back off the airfield and literally re-secure and sees every building on the airport. This isn't a day? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Like, my buddies were standing there on the runway, like when those bodies fucking fell off and smashed the pavement from hundreds of feet in the air. And we got there the next day, and they're like, it's going to be, like, you guys are going to be fighting when you get out pretty much, like out of the bird. And we get out, we get out of the bird, we set up security.
Starting point is 01:12:56 And there's this Air Force, this airman. And this female airman, she, like, walks up to us. She's got her fucking helmet strapped to her chest plate. She's got a clipboard. She's like, hi, guys. Welcome to Afghanistan. And I was like, get the fuck up. Like, to our, like, half of our team.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Like, get the fuck up. Like, what the fuck is going on right now? And she was like, yeah, like, your palletized packs are over there and blah, blah, blah. This is going on. I'm like, what a, this is a fucking job. Are you kidding me? Yeah. And so everyone gets up.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Like, we go get our fucking, our palatized gear. We move to a gym. and we stage our shit and we're like immediately just fucking chomping at the bit like let us go do something like we're in Afghanistan you know and they're like yeah
Starting point is 01:13:37 there's nothing you know we got nothing for you other than like go sit over here set up a hide site and like observe the Taliban so we're still like we're jazz like we're pumped like you know we're we don't care that we're not actively doing stuff but you know we're searching for targets and suspicious behavior
Starting point is 01:13:52 and then you know we do that for a day or two and we're on this like radar site like right against and if you guys want any like photos or videos i mean we all had our phones out there i have fucking hundreds of videos and photos i was that guy like people like don't take photos don't take photos that's like a military thing i was that guy like i'm gonna take some pictures like i i was like our last team photo that went like worldwide fucking famous in the marine corps in the military like i was like hey you guys you motherfuckers this is the last time we're going to take this picture like you guys need to
Starting point is 01:14:22 stand here and take this picture and uh they're all going to be a hard time about it and now it's like a famous fucking photo on the Marine Corps but yeah it was dude still dismounting is why I love that idea of that hype especially when you're a new soldier you are going into a combat zone yeah and then you're getting told that
Starting point is 01:14:41 they will hype you up and you don't under especially when you're brand new your chair you have no clue because I thought oh when landing a quiz oh is it like that oh we're landing in Iraq oh is it like that and then it slowly you peel that on your back you're like oh okay never mind and
Starting point is 01:14:57 Do you think you're going to, like, fucking Omaha Beach? This is D-D-D-D-D-A, and then Karen walks down. It's like, hey, guys, here, here, and here. There's families playing on said beach. It's like, I mean, we're literally descending, and they're like, hey, we're blacking out, like, previous planes have taken machine gun on RPG fire, like, be ready. And we're like, fuck, yeah, you know, zero dark 30, whatever. And then it was like a joke, but, uh, yeah, yeah. Adrenal end up signs.
Starting point is 01:15:28 It was funny. But yeah, we ended up in that first, like, day or two that we were doing that first mission, you know, observing and reporting. My buddy, Jorge, team Corman, he's like, hey, man, like, I need to take a shit. And I'm like, yeah, you know what? I need to take a shit too. First shit in Afghanistan. And I have a picture of it, actually. So if you guys want that, too, I took a picture of my first shit in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Hey, Chase, right? Blurred out. It's going to be brown pixels. It's in between two. Connix containers, but They have bathroom savage. Not where we were, but
Starting point is 01:16:02 there's just like a ton of Yeah, exactly, yeah. Dude, there was like, like, porto shooters that were just like, I mean, 10 foot almost tall, like stacks of shit. Oh, you know, you've seen when they peeked through and you're like, what the fuck? How do you get it that high?
Starting point is 01:16:20 Brandon's like, what? Dude. Have you seen this? What is this? Portodron. You know portodon? Oh, yeah. They'll stack it where the poop is coming through.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Yeah. Where you've got to, like, standing on top of the seat to, like, continue to add to it. Yes, you're building on the, holding on to the top hanging. I've not done that poop. Like, I kind of want to try now. There's a cross-fit shit right there. Yeah, but we, you know. The penalty for not holding that hang is severe.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Oh, ooh. Kipping your shit out. It's a new version of monkey bars. It's, oh, no. Yeah, we... Can't call them that. Oh, sorry. I don't know, another name for him.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Yeah, no, so we both took our shit, and there was just a bunch of shipping containers there, and, you know, we're opening them up. And it was just literally, I mean, fucking, like, UN gear that was left behind, like, coalition gear left behind, allied gear. And it was, I mean, all the ones that were right there by that, where that first mission was, it was all, like, plate carriers and, you know, helmets and tools and shit and Jorge was like hey there's a shipping container over here that's got a bunch of tools in it and I was like all right like power tools hand tools like what and he was like everything I was like all right let me come check it out and he pulls out this like big ass pair of bolt cutters like this tall and he was like oh it's like we could use these and I was like yeah we'll throw them in the back of the bobcat and he's like oh there's another like you know
Starting point is 01:17:50 little like 16 inch tall pair and he's like fuck yeah like I'm going to put those in my kit so I kept the whole time we're out there. It'll kind of make sense later, but we punch out of there, and then we're waiting to hear what's going on. They're like, hey, we're going to go open up Abbey Gate. The Brits had been cut off. The British Command was in the Barron Hotel. So you've got, like, the Pax Terminal and the flagpole and, like, the Troop Medical Center,
Starting point is 01:18:14 like the Joint Medical Center. And then, like, three or four miles around the airport is where Abie Gate is. And so there's Abigate, property. and there's abigate forward which is where we were at we're at abigate forward which is against the canal and like all the way uh like into the city essentially it's like literally like the barren hotel and the city is all right there so like surrounding that portion of that gate it's like two and three story buildings the neighborhood of the outskirts of the city and then like the you know going into downtown and shit and uh the the brits have been cut off you know there's a taliban checkpoint about a hundred 55 yards north of our position and you know there's people coming through there but most of the people are trying to go around the Taliban checkpoint because as much as you know the same with everything like everyone who wasn't there likes to say that things didn't happen and you know the Taliban are executing people right in front of us and we'd report on it and they'd be like nope don't do
Starting point is 01:19:16 anything like unless you know it's an American like you know that you see American passport in their hand or you know like they're being actively hurt or shot like doesn't matter or if there's someone else, like, don't do anything. Like, and, yeah, I mean, I took pictures and videos of bodies and people being lined up to be executed and reported back on it and dropped it to Intel, and they're like, nope, I'm like, sorry, not our problem, not, like, don't worry about it. Do you like a mouthful of hardwood?
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Starting point is 01:20:50 That's their traditions, their customs, anything like that, even if it's execution. fucking stoning what doesn't matter because you told that story about like having to like there's just chicks being stoned in the street it's fucking crazy you're like oh wait okay this is part of the culture yeah you can't do a thing
Starting point is 01:21:08 you're like separate Sunniushia cart like as long as they're not fucking with Americans you literally can't do shit that's what people in 10 days that's a culture shock for you 100% I mean you know we're we spent our entire Marine Corps careers like up to that point you know
Starting point is 01:21:24 thinking like yeah we're going to go on fucking patrols and we're going to go i mean being in a sniper team is a little different like we're going to go set up sites or we're going to go do this and look for you know whatever and report and observe and shit yeah and then it's like hey you guys are going to deal with the worst humanitarian aid disaster since vietnam and uh i mean quite literally just fucking hundreds of thousands of people descended on the airport and they ended up just over a couple days closing off all of the other gates are on the airport. So the gate that we were at, our team, we're, you know, sniper teams, scout sniper teams conduct 24-7 continuous operations. So we're in our little two-story tower.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Like half the team is on the gun behind the spotting scope, on the camera, and the other half of us, like maybe one person's catching in like an hour of sleep or two hours of sleep, but everyone else, the other half of the team is down pulling out refugees and pulling out interpreters and pulling out families. You don't get rest. No. Yeah. Like you, you know, we're just, going back and forth and like our team corpsman he ends up like not being you know not being able to even be our team corpsman he ends up triaging all the heat heat stroke casualties all the fucking children and women dying of malnutrition and i mean the first day we were there it was literally like thousands hundreds if not thousands of people backed up against the gate and like
Starting point is 01:22:42 we had to open it and so like we opened it a little bit and it's just like people just trying to pour through and uh you know the way that i describe it by the end of of those 10 days like if I was to fill up this room with sand like that's how many people there were like I know you know I'll share the videos with you guys but literally just people like fucking like this holding babies over their heads like screaming at the top of their lungs and like it's kind of like something that lives with you forever and everyone who is out there just like constant like screaming and crying just like day in and day out and especially for our team like everyone else was on like 12 hour rotations at the gate but like we eat slept and shit and
Starting point is 01:23:22 worked in the same spot like we were in this little fucking tower or on the ground like we were just listening to it 24 seven what were you guys doing to restrain the crowd like what just Marines down there on the ground at first hands yeah hands and like you know setting up fucking razor wire and that and then and then even to go into that yeah did they have um because at that time there wasn't even like tea walls or yeah there was like short little concrete walls and shit but god damn hescoes yeah no no hesco so that was that point we're like we're like in we're like in the city like we're literally in the city so it's almost impossible and you can't control like yeah so like one thing you can't it's like oh we'll just get mob mindset there is
Starting point is 01:24:01 no control there's not like oh i'll just get this under control everyone will calm down that does not exactly it was yeah it was just ramping up like day by day it was getting worse and worse and worse and like a lot of it was what was pretty wild is that we've got you know platoons at a time like the companies are rotating out but like platoons at a time of Marines so like 35 to 40 Marines at a time at the gate dealing with hundreds to tens of thousands of people like literally like 40 Marines 40 Marines plus dealing with tens of thousands of people at a time and there's only so much you can do I mean and then it's tens of thousands of people you do not don't yeah exactly like no idea and they will do s-fests they will clack off like 90% of those
Starting point is 01:24:47 dudes had no you know 90% of those people had no reason to be there to escape they were just desperate or they were you know malintent and uh I mean we saw a lot of that like they I mean at one point like the ground force commander it was bad like they they set up like I think like three to five shipping containers the army brought out shipping containers like one of the best things they did and there's a Taliban checkpoint they had some barricades and shit like right there in the middle of the city the barren hotel where the brits were over here front to the left and then we set up like shipping containers so that no V-bids could come through so like then we've got Marines sitting on top of them filtering people through but like the Taliban
Starting point is 01:25:24 backed up like right behind it and you know processing people through executing them beating them hitting them with pipes like thinking that we can't see them we're just not really caring you know what I mean like they're doing it we're not doing anything um and uh we're not able to do anything rather but uh the ground force commander like allowed the taliban he brought them up to the gate so now you think about this we've got i mean in in our battalion a handful of people that had like been there done that been afghanistan and iraq whatever it was not most or even many um at that point but like you've got dudes that have like buddies that were killed by the Taliban or ISIS and shit like that and now the ground force commander out there is bringing the
Starting point is 01:26:08 Taliban up literally shoulder to shoulder beating civilians with sticks right next to Marines and they're like let them do it like literally just like let them let them fucking do it like don't do anything it's crazy you had most of the individuals aren't going to have any experiences of brand new because exactly yeah when I went we did a military show 2016 for something and it was wild because I was with army guys I was with some rangers I was with and a bunch of infantry dudes and there was no one that had a CIB or combat and I was like yo where's everyone like do that and we don't get it gone yeah and now you so you have that gap and now I was like handle this and you are you guys are learning on the fucking job no exactly because
Starting point is 01:26:52 everything up to that point was like we did one or two like mock neos like mock non combat evacuations in Saudi so like they had all the air force like all the airmen all the soldiers like come into like mock lanes to like search you know like very proper like very proper like set up search lanes and do this and you guys are in a hide site yeah you guys are in a hide site inside a vehicle and you know doing urban hide shit and then we get there and it's like hey you guys have no fucking vehicles you've got no resources like go fucking do your job and and it's a hundred times the people and they're twice as rabid yeah exactly and it was i mean it was wild uh i keep saying that but i mean i you know i don't have better words for it uh it's it's interesting like especially
Starting point is 01:27:36 and you know this is i think the only thing i'll say on this but it's interesting talking about this like every time i uh my buddy i don't know if you guys know justin uh govern all at all but yeah yeah he uh he ended up picking me picking me up from the airport he got cute cute he got me up from the airport yesterday and dropped me off of the hotel but uh he was talking i was telling him was like man i was like it's it's tough because like i i come you know i've i've talked i've shared this story you know a few times and in in different ways but you know still the story and it's always like man like you know do people think i'm like a fucking you know just like this guy's always talking about this and i'm like it like the imposter syndrome kind of creeps in a little bit i'm like
Starting point is 01:28:20 you know what that shit man like no one's not that people aren't but like you know people weren't talking about this shit like the Marine Corps as much as I love the Marine Corps like I'll say it to this day and listening to the Marine Corps still to this day the greatest decision I've ever made in my entire life it's shame me to who I am it's giving me the best people that I love whether directly or indirectly in my life and you know it's made me to the man that I'm proud of um but man like they still won't even talk about this shit like they won't bring it up like they want nothing to do with it and just a story that needs to get told yeah and and it's unfortunate but like we
Starting point is 01:28:55 still have zero accountability for what's happened i mean 13 americans were murdered we knew it was going to happen and you know i'm like you know what at the very first like i mean like if i was fucking dead and i was buried in arlington like some of our brothers and sisters are like i would hope that you know someone who was alive would fucking tell the truth about what happened and you know i'm lucky enough and fortunate enough to have a platform and to be able to do that and you guys are doing that for me as well and for them so i'm grateful for it very much so and it's uh it's it's man like you know it's it it is a travesty and stupid and then to downplay it or do say oh we did what we can we had so much precision in this withdrawal we tried the best it's been in the works for
Starting point is 01:29:38 x amount of time or shift blame instead of being like there there wasn't even fucking barriers tea walls there is a million things you could do that was done for 20 years leading up to this point you lived out in a cob and a sector i lived in a cob there was no fucking running water and we had ditches built around our cob a hundred meters out we had constantina wire and then we had tea walls 100 meters from our little uh church we lived out that was out in the sector of iraq and then it's like oh hey let's not do the same but then let's not no accountability for how we fuck this up and just look And logistically, we knew this was coming.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Yeah, well, and that's, well in advance. Exactly. That's 100% of it. Like, they were, our, our colonel of the SB Magdas for months was like bringing our, so sniper teams are a battalion level asset. So, like, we get word from the fucking top. And we're dealing, you know, with our commanders and stuff. And he's like, hey, like, I'm trying to send you guys, but, like, they won't let the Marine Corps go. Like, the administration will not let the Marine Corps go.
Starting point is 01:30:53 And, uh, and then we get sent in. the last minute but you know to your point it's like even that like the the intel like what we were past like we knew what was going to happen we were past that the bomber was going to be there on that day on the 26th the morning of they're like hey he's going to be here sometimes today he's traveling with so and so this is what they're wearing this is what they look like being on a lookout we pass up a a p iD we get denied permission on you know our p id and you know who we believe to be the bomber and who he's traveling with disappear into a crowd of literally hundreds of thousands of people and we're passing it up we had multiple instances that day we had multiple ID probes in the
Starting point is 01:31:35 days leading up to it we had been shot at in our tower in the days leading up to it like two days prior maybe even in the morning of like we had been shot at one of our my buddies was up in the tower and I'm climbing up the ladder and like our first sergeant was up there and I hear fucking crack and I like climb up the tower I'm like yo and I see my buddy's he slamming the window shut and I have a picture of it and videos of it too like literally fucking seven six two round impacted he's leaned his head against the tower window and he's literally like looking through the fucking camera looking through the spotting scope and round impacts where his head is and the window's open like it's a sliding window so it's open
Starting point is 01:32:09 right here but it was bulletproof glass so he slams it shut and we're like we're not fucking opening that window again and it's just like two and three story buildings you pass it up and they're like yeah guys sorry like don't worry about it you know and like hey can we push a squads out into the neighborhood like can we do this can we provide more standoff distance and like as the days got closer to the 26 they closed the distance the standoff distance goes from you know 15 meters 25 meters to like now the crowd is right there at the base of the gate right at the base of our tower why the fuck did they do like just for a reason we had a 300 meter even if we're on a patrol or uh if we're on a convoy we still had hey if you cross this
Starting point is 01:32:50 hundred meter line you will get lit the fuck up And that, they intentionally closed it, though? Yeah, so the, 15 meters. 15 meters from a base. I had this shit explained. And so once I'm not even that, it just, it got right, it was right on top of us at that point. And that's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:06 And so, and so, and so, and so. Fucking wild. They explained to us that this was years past. Like, after I testified in front of Congress, and then they, they didn't want to call it reopening the investigation, but they did a supplemental review is what they called it. They did a supplemental review. So the government's like, hey, we investigate ourselves. We found ourselves not.
Starting point is 01:33:24 guilty again. So don't worry about it. Yeah. And they came in and they said they're like, hey, so all these hundreds of photos, like all these things that happened. I was like, you know, we asked like, hey, where did all the photos of X, Y, and Z go? Like the bomber who was traveling with the bodies, all these things are like, oh, those photos, those videos, they don't exist anywhere inside of the DODs or any Allied Nations intelligence database. They're gone. We can't find them. We don't know what happened to them. I was like, wow, that's really convenient. He heard that one before. Yeah. Crazy. And that's the thing
Starting point is 01:33:56 I say that shit too It's like I'm not the first person to get blown up We're not the first people to lose friends Like this shit has It's just a cycle unfortunately And it's like It's war right Like we go to foreign countries
Starting point is 01:34:09 And war for good and bad reasons A lot more bad than good Maybe whatever you believe in But I know I've helped people All of us help people We saved 140,000 135,000 fucking Afghans that, you know, we worked with, families, kids that have an opportunity of life that they
Starting point is 01:34:28 never would have had otherwise. They're in our country, some of them, yes, there's that side of it's like some of them, probably not for the best reasons, but we've given people an opportunity of life that they never would have had otherwise. And even if it was for a day, a year, 10 years, they had an opportunity to read, write, get an education, like learn. It's something that they never would have had the opportunity to otherwise. And people in culture that have only known suffering but um yeah i mean to yeah it was a long-winded uh still not answering your question but they they closed the dispersion down to say hey um you know the reasoning multiple years later after everything happened they're like oh they closed a dispersion because if
Starting point is 01:35:13 an id went off down here people got shot at down here in the canal we didn't want them to have to drag casualties farther right well it's not our fucking problem it's a wall like there's a wall like there's a wall here i mean we've got combat engineers you've got xy and z we can't put a ladder we can't put a fucking bridge we can't do something we can't knock down a wall to make it so that's not the case like that's just another you know you spent fucking three years thinking about how to answer the question and i could poke a hole through it in 10 minutes like that that's bullshit but we had when we got hit out in sector it is you're doing everything you're pulling god of air it's like when that striker blew up it's like fucking
Starting point is 01:35:52 okay we don't have a medevac striker we're pulling godier he's going on the next striker they're driving back to basing they're just hauling ass with a couple other strikers we're up top now and then we're securing the vehicle but guess what we're not going like well hey this one thing happened way out here and now we have to move everything and change everything to make sure everyone's safe just in case because you as you said it's like now thousands tens of thousands of people are right at the wall and you You have, this is the most terrifying thing, especially when, hey, we have a sub-bomber, we have a V-Bid. Advanced knowledge of it.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Yeah, exactly. Well, and that's, that's it, exactly. Like, they're like, oh, well, the DOD, right? They're like, there's nothing that we could have done. Bad out, dude. Like, does it say the line? Oh, he was on our radar. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Yeah. And, or then you got John Kirby at the time, you know, fucking State Department. Like, and I quote, he was like, that, like, that, like, like, we're, like, we're, In regards to Afghanistan withdrawal and the plot, he was like, I didn't see any chaos from my perch. And those are words that came out of his mouth of him. Fuck that. You didn't see any chaos from your perch? Like, all right.
Starting point is 01:37:01 You had, I was going to say, it's like, no, I was just like, what the fuck, dude? Yeah. It's just, people, just, I mean, delusional quite literally, but. Look at, look at Clint Romishay. Look at, you had, and big shout out to Secretary of the Army, General George. Yeah. Like, Randy has been amazing, but that is proper leadership. That dude, he was the one that called out.
Starting point is 01:37:28 He's like, why the fuck are we in this bowl? And it was everyone around who was like, well, you know, we need that. It's like, no, we're in a bowl. This is not a great place. And then, oh, holy shit, look what happened because of that. And you had one dude. Is that cop-kating? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:45 And General George was against that place. He was like the first one to, like, raise attention. And they tried to push back because of it. It was a, it was that cop. Keating is a case study, at least it was when I went through the advanced infantry course, like it's a case study on like, don't fucking do this. Like literally, just like
Starting point is 01:37:59 do not fucking do this. Sunshue had preached about this 2,000 years ago and you have that and then when a good general and thank God he is in the position he isn't now it like he was trying to bring light. This is fucking stupid
Starting point is 01:38:15 and then everyone else, the bad leadership that failed forward no we need that. Oh yes. zoo. Always put your base in an ambushable hole from 360 position. Great fighting area. Make sure son blind you
Starting point is 01:38:32 you every which way. I too have read the art of war. The brown man come. I'm like no. I actually met I went on a black bear hunt. This is, I'll light in the mood for a second. I can get back to not light, but
Starting point is 01:38:47 I went Freedom Hunters. It was incredible organization. on if you guys ever heard of it but uh army veteran just he came back had a lot of friends lose his lose their lives at war and he's like i want to take vets hunting and shooting and stuff and um i went on a black bear hunt in british columbia last year with one of the guys from my sniper team with them and it was like six other uh american vets and two canadian snipers and uh and they're they're vets as well but i'm just like sitting there and there's this like
Starting point is 01:39:18 older dude he's like he's got a little weight on him nice complete goofball and then all of a sudden just comes up he was like yeah I was dropping off blah blah blah over cop Keating out of fucking 160 a sore and I was like what though like all right and
Starting point is 01:39:35 and then we're fucking putting down black bears together but yeah it was cool he was just like I never met anyone from that like yeah he was like yeah we were just dropping shit off the side of little birds and shooting with MP5s out of the fucking little bird I was like jeezing goes far damn dude all right
Starting point is 01:39:50 I didn't know he had it like that But shit I was judging you for a second I was unfamiliar with your old gang Yeah you're gonna have some army vets With you guys like all right cool We'll stay over here But
Starting point is 01:40:03 Fuck Oh man It's wild It was cool But yeah Now we We kind of wrap it up on that We
Starting point is 01:40:13 The 26th Pops up And You know You know we've got that situation we've got intel on you know who's going to be there who's at the gate like everyone all we disseminated all the information down to the you know ground ground level like hey like there's a super bomb in the area this is going on we had multiple times throughout the day where we'd be like
Starting point is 01:40:36 stopped and like fucking dudes took a knee he got behind cover and like hey the id's going to go off and then they're like all right yep no don't worry about it like go back to business and so then we'd go and we'd start pulling our refugees and shit and at this point now like globally it's been broadcasted hey abby gate forward abby gate is the only gate that's open like they're allowing media at the gate they're allowing a lot of people who shouldn't be there at the fucking gate like posting social media and stuff and like it was crazy like our tertiary comm like communication fucking plan was like we were literally using signal on our phones like we were talking to people on instagram chat whatever it is through signal to like pull out refugees like
Starting point is 01:41:17 hey and i'm with so-and-so and i pulled like i worked with this interpreter and his family back in 2010 like they're going to be here on this day like can you pull them out we're like yeah of course and throughout those days i mean i can't say it enough but like the praise that i give to the marines the airmen the sailors the soldiers that were out there and the brits even like the brits were awesome it was just like i mean we had we set up razor wire and then you'd have women that we'd have to literally like state department and be like hey you guys need to fucking walk this family of four and these children back out towards the taliban and like go send them on their way like they don't have proper documentation so here we are and you've got
Starting point is 01:41:51 fucking women just like clawing and kids screaming and crying in your fucking arms like literally handing them yeah literally and like and like we had women and like babies getting thrown over the walls and impacting the ground and being killed on impact because people are so desperate for freedom that they're and getting away from tyranny and that's what people will never understand like it's easy to preach your fucking oppressed from a free country but you can't preach you're press from an oppressed country you'll be murdered tortured whatever it may be like americans most americans will never truly understand the freedom that they have to bitchmoan and complain about the things that they do and i mean brother in christ that is one of the
Starting point is 01:42:31 biggest statements you can say and i don't think enough people appreciate what we have here because you've seen you've seen the ugly side of man and i think unfortunately i do believe more people need to see that and experience it yeah because you will appreciate everything we have here. Well, and that's the, that's the luxury being American. Like I, like, I know, by no means believe that you need to put on a uniform to serve your country. You can serve your country and community in a million different ways outside of military service or outside of being a police officer, outside of being a firefighter.
Starting point is 01:43:03 You can do it in countless ways, and it's, you know, it's, it's necessary. Like, you know, I think we're definitely, we all see it, we're at a turning point for sure, but it's, yeah, I mean, you have to work for, the life that we have and people want the life that we have i mean like i got to see that in 2021 we all did but we literally had women we were sending like families kids we were sending back out directly to the taliban because state department's like you can't they're not vetted they can't come through whatever it is that are proper documentation and then women fucking jump on the razor wire and they're trying to slit their throats with razor wire like please or they're like grabbing the muzzle of your rifle like please kill me like please kill me fucking soldier please kill me
Starting point is 01:43:44 Marine like what you're like you executing me here will be like literally like saying this like screaming like please kill me here so that I don't have to go get tortured by the Taliban like please it'll be a gift like this is a mercy shit like that and it was constant like constant every fucking time and every college college girls on TikTok told me it's a great place to visit I know yeah they were supporting it with emojis it's we're the bad guys yeah we're the bad guys Yeah, we, so I, on the 26th, it's around, you know, 5 to 6 p.m., and staff sergeant Darren Taylor Hoover, I'm on the gun, I'm on the SAS, you know, observing down towards the Taliban checkpoint and got one of my other buddies up there observing the rest of the crowd. And there's like the ladder well. So we're on the second story and there's a ladder well right down here to my right. And he's like, hey, Snipes, like you up there. And I'm like, yeah, man, what's up? And he's like, hey, there's an interpreter down here. Half our team was on a resupply back uh farther in the base and uh we were you know we're on you know shooter spotter pair up there and and we were waiting for a specific interpreter and his family to come
Starting point is 01:44:53 through and uh my my assistant team leader uh dalton was like we had a conversation and i was like hey like i'll fucking keep a lookout for these guys and go get them if they come through and hoover's like hey there's a there's a guy down here with a sign and it says like a bunch of random shit but like we told him like, hey, anyone that comes through, like, hold up a sign, write X, Y, Z code or letters or whatever on it to come through, and so we'll pull you with, like, high-powered optics, we can spot them in the crowd and whatnot,
Starting point is 01:45:21 and so... Justin Gover and I'll say, but... I want my circumstances and skip back. Where's my... Like, Justin not now! How'd you get here, Justin? Dude, that shit kills me. Dude, that was like... Oh, my God. He's in fucking Afghanistan. Come to my comedy show with the laugh out loud.
Starting point is 01:45:40 What are you doing? Oh, shit. Yeah, we, oh, my gosh. I'm glad we're like, this is weird to me. No, it's so funny. Okay, this is a different way to do this. Yeah, it's so funny. We, so we, no, it's nice.
Starting point is 01:45:55 Like, I was saying we, like, I went on Zach's, you know, podcast, and now it's nice to actually be around some funny people. So, I fucking do it out. Colazo, Colazo texted me. He's like, hey, make sure Tyler bullies Zach. No, I was waiting for you I got more I'm saying Yeah, no, I love him But yeah, so we
Starting point is 01:46:18 I go down there He's like, hey, we got so and so With the sign down here I'm like, hey, yeah, like I got it And my buddy, we had one of our other guys And our team come up, take over on the gun And I go down with Hoover I grab my rifle
Starting point is 01:46:30 We walk out and we're talking He's like one of the only dudes in the battalion That like had been there and done that Once or twice before in Afghanistan And I'm talking to him him and he's like man this is fucking crazy and you know he's a staff sergeant and i'm like yeah like this is crazy he's like this is unlike anything i've ever done before overseas and i'm like this is the only thing i've done and uh yeah this is fucking wild and so uh we walk out you know
Starting point is 01:46:56 50 to 70 yards out past this chainling fence walking in the canal and it's like 10 to 12 feet of dirt little knee high canal wall and then the canal itself and then another little two foot high canal wall 10 and 12 feet of dirt and all the neighborhoods right here and so um at that point it had built up so much that it's literally tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of people like people that canal we say canal but it's just we call it the shi canal it's just sewage it's just filled with sewage and it was completely like nut to butt filled with people trying to climb out of it to get over to us and then it's filled up all the way to this side of the fence and wall and all the way to this side. And so I pull out, I pull out this interpreter. I pull out his brother. And he's like,
Starting point is 01:47:41 I, you know, we do a little hasty search on him. And I see the sign that's got like Dalton's name on it, like two slash one. And they, we're stay. So STA, scout sniper, platoons, teams, it's surveillance target acquisition. And he wrote like two slash one recon on it or something. You know, so like, not what we were, but it's kind of funny. I was like, oh, yeah, this is cool, folded it up, put my pocket. I'm like, I'm going to give this to Dalton later. And I'm like, hey, I'm going to take you guys over to the like main search area. And he's like, wait, wait, like my family, my family. And I was like, yeah, like your brother's right here. And he's like, no, no, no. And he pulls out American passports. And I'm like, like, four or five more of them. Like, holy fuck. Like he's got
Starting point is 01:48:21 like a wife and kids. And he's like, my wife and kids are like down in the canal. And I'm like, dude, like, you were told to like be here at this time with your whole family. Because like at that point, the gate was already supposed to be closed. we knew the threat was in the area and in my head i'm like there's no way his family's getting through like he's like yeah they're down in the fucking canal that way and uh i'm like all right i'll stay down here in the canal with you for you know 20 or 30 minutes but then i need to get back to what i was doing i'll make sure another marine is aware of what's going on so he can help you out and keep an eye off your family so i grabbed him or his brother i don't remember which and i put him up
Starting point is 01:48:55 like on to the canal wall and i'm standing against the canal wall like 10 minutes goes by and just flash bang and i get fucking bitch slapped by the hand of god just like massive waiver pressure hits me and you know like i explained the amount of people there it was fucking just instantly fucking 200 people killed instantly the dude stepped out two to three meters away uh directly in front of us uh stepped out of a crowd of hundreds of thousands of people and uh detonated uh what they say is equivalent to 20 to 30 pounds of c4 steel back plate c4 20 or 30 pounds of c4 and then like hundreds of steel ball bearing so he made himself a human directional charge human claymore essentially and from two to three meters away detonated and directed it right at all of us
Starting point is 01:49:40 in our tower and so like we've got the two windows open in the tower our dues in the tower get blasted off the gun um like there's like brain matter covering the sat like the press of our sass and shit like they couldn't even clean it off um like it literally just like fused to the fucking gun and I didn't find this out to like maybe like a year or two ago like yeah probably two years ago but a buddy of mine who was wounded he shared with me that actually like before I like open my eyes and started fucking doing the thing one of the Marines when the blast went off like multiple Marines got hit with CS there's CS gas canister grenades got fucking exploded on all of us on top of everyone spicy air yeah exactly spicy air and nades I did not
Starting point is 01:50:28 know that yeah and so a lot of people thought it was a fucking dirty bomb right like initially yeah and like right when the blast went off the other half of our team had just pulled up and they were behind the tower so like everyone behind the tower got hit with the overpressure and the blast and shit uh just not like shrapnel and so they get rocked and overpressure's the bad shit dude it's it is the bad shit because it fries your brain fries your organ tbi fridays through monday like good shirt it's yeah It was right there Shameless club
Starting point is 01:51:03 A little shame But not much Yeah I'm proud of that one Everyone's crying As they're buying stuff They're quiet Yeah no So
Starting point is 01:51:19 Blast goes off And like The other half our team They run at the tower They know like Dalton's jobs Fucking consolidate Like personnel
Starting point is 01:51:27 like he's in charge of personnel. Chaz is in charge of dealing with, you know, everything else. And they go to the tower and they're like, okay, we got U5, where the fuck's Jorge and where's Tyler. And Jorge, our team corpsman, he was walking out to meet me. So he walks out and he's on the other side of the chain link fence, just on the other side of it. Blast goes off. He gets hit by all the overpressure, no shrapnel. So he gets knocked on his ass. He gets up.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Marines are on fire and shit, like literally, like quite literally on fire. and he's just like medic mode right like cormon mode fucking just patting dudes out throwing turnicets on triaging casualties left and right and uh they find horay and then adam uh one of my buddies in the tower like i remember like as i'm like leaning up and i knew right away it's literally like saving private ryan like i knew right away i was like right ear right ear drum got ripped to pieces fucking just like super high pitch ringing like e and like left ears muffled and i can just hear people screaming everywhere and I'm like as I'm trying to open my eyes and struggling to open them through the CS and like taking a blast of my eyeballs I'm like holy I wasn't
Starting point is 01:52:33 wearing any I pro either no I pro no your pro as most of us weren't but yeah no dude yeah they're fucking damn we'll get NJP'd again yeah what a motherfucker that would be you're back in to court martial you um yeah no and so I'm like holy fuck I knew right away I was like I just got blown up but right before I was like open my eyes someone came over and my whole plate carrier was on fire so they like patted out the fire and literally
Starting point is 01:53:03 like I guess I was unconscious at the time and he's like yeah he's dead and fucking ran away like to someone else to go trios another casualty and so I'm like trying to open my eyes I'm trying to come to and I'm like literally trying to sit up and like outstretching my hand just like holy fucking it was such a weird feeling like that whole
Starting point is 01:53:21 the adrenaline hits you and you like everything just fucking slows down like i feel like i was on the ground for hour two hours and it was like minutes like literally everything fucking slows down i'm in your brain's just super just like firing every nerve ending's firing on all cylinders and i'm like holy i was in disbelief at first i didn't feel any pain initially like right when it happened and i was just like holy fuck like i just got blown up and i'm like trying to sit up and i can't stand up i can't sit up i'm like putting my hand out and i can see in the tower like adam he's directing our team leader to me and i'm like holy fuck and like my whole stomach
Starting point is 01:54:01 got ripped open i lost my left kidney left testicle exploded uh i lost 140 to 157 centimeters a large and small intestine two thirds of my traverse colon i took 150 ball bearings into my body uh nothing hit my face so pause 150 ball bearings yeah what's size were like the ball bearerous. Ooh. Sorry, I'm trying to give you a good reference point. Like,
Starting point is 01:54:27 maybe you got that little, that little cap right there. So, like, I would say, like, the tip, like, that circle,
Starting point is 01:54:34 that size and just a little bit bigger. Like, just like slightly bigger than like a BB gun. I don't know why I was trying that. I always, yeah, pretty much,
Starting point is 01:54:41 yeah, they're like, I mean, I can't make a perfect circle, but like that big, probably. Like, it's like about that big.
Starting point is 01:54:47 They're like, small, like skate ball, skate. like bearings almost like a little bit bigger than like skate bearings yes they're a little bit bigger than this um but yeah i took 150 so everything i took three or four like into my kevlar like into my helmet nothing hit my face so i'm still pretty or lie to me please but uh just and then everything else hit me from my shoulders down uh to my thighs pretty much so how much did your body armor
Starting point is 01:55:14 uh a ton so my rifle my m4a one was fucking like took through the steel and aluminum like just straight through it multiple into like through the RCO ripped it apart and then the soft arm and the plate carriers like stopped everything that hit my chest like completely stopped everything that hit my chest um same with the helmet that's what they're for people don't realize it's like yeah it's here to protect right here because you need right here to live 100% yep yeah like both my lungs were fine but my liver spleen bladder liver gall bladder yeah um everything was lacerated and punctured uh my you know i took ball bearings through my wrist through my fucking into my shoulder you can see that whole scar so that scar goes from
Starting point is 01:56:00 the palm of my hand all the way up my forearm through my bicep and into my chest and so that that was later like i had compartment syndrome so they had to manually release all the pressure my leg my arm blew up like bigger than the size of my leg and all the muscles and tendons were ripping off but my right arm was it blasted my whole stomach got literally ripped open bigger than a softball sized hole uh like straight to my organs and uh i like i'm trying to sit up and i'm completely bleeding out like from everywhere and i'm like holy fuck like i can't like really just like in disbelief can't believe it's happened and i'm like trying to get up trying to crawl can't move and i'm literally i'm going unconscious like losing consciousness and we start getting shot at from the neighborhood and farther down
Starting point is 01:56:43 the canal and uh like one of my buddies fucking got shot he like got blown up got stood up and they got shot through the shoulder and shot a gunman off the roof and uh yeah and so it was isis k that blew us up but uh multiple marines responded accordingly to the gunfire um and then i mean everyone was just dragging casualties to triaging and i'm i'm bleeding out i'm going unconscious and i remember like literally laying on there on the ground and it was like almost peaceful it was it was weird i wasn't like scared i just i was honestly and disbelief. Like, I had that whole, like, your life flashes before your eyes.
Starting point is 01:57:18 Like, I had that, like, man, I've lived a good life, like, laying there on the ground. Like, I couldn't move. And I was just like, you know what? I've done my best. And, like, I thought that laying on the ground. And still, like, wasn't any pain at first. Couldn't move anymore. I knew I was fucked up because I was trying to crawl and I was, like, kind of falling into my arm.
Starting point is 01:57:34 I was like, man, why is my arm not working? And I'm like, look, I'm like, oh, that's why it's not working. And it was just, like, very matter of fact. Like, it was there, but it was f***ed up really bad. And I was like, oh, that's. why it's not working and so then i tried to fucking crawl on my left side on my elbow and i've got ball bearings through my wrist my hand and uh and then i just couldn't move anymore because i had so much trauma to my body and uh i'm going unconscious like i'm i'm literally feeling my life like dying
Starting point is 01:58:00 and um i'm losing consciousness and i know i'm like damn like i'm gonna die here in the dirt in afghanistan i was like but you know i've i've lived a good life and i start going unconscious and I'm just like that like literally just thinking like in in disbelief and I just hear chas my team leader he's fucking screaming my name he's like Tyler Tyler and he like as he was in the tower consolidating everyone and trying to figure out where everyone was at he was like give me Tyler's bolt cutters the ones that we took like early on out of that shipping container and he grabbed my fucking bolt cutters and he just sprinted out there for me cut a hole in the fence that cut off the casualty carrying distance by like 100 yards which is significant when fucking second second matter and he's screaming like running down the chaneling fence and I can hear him yelling my name and like it was just like all the life breathed back in my body and I was just like holy fuck like I'm not gonna die here
Starting point is 01:58:55 like Chaz is gonna get to me like holy fuck but in that moment like all the it was like my body fucking recognized what actually happened and all the pain hit me and I was like holy please me like I was in so much pain like more pain than I could ever possibly like even comprehensive hands still and then like explain but I was in so much pain all over stomachs ripped open everything's fucking ripped open and I was just like holy like like not let me die I was like literally thinking I remember I was like please just me like holy fuck and I'm you know yelling screaming slobbering on
Starting point is 01:59:26 myself chaz gets to me they're putting that whole like nugget drill like you're a boot and they put turnicits on all your limbs and make your buddy fucking carry you around like that was me they put turnicits on my limbs they're like how the fuck are we going to move this guy like his stomachs ripped open his guts are hanging out and so my buddy ceilis ran and grabbed a riot shield that when the blast went off like one of the brits left and he grabbed a riot shield and they literally threw me on a riot shield and like four fucking six of them carried me out on the right shield right back behind the tower they got there I don't remember being carried from the X to behind the tower but I remember like in and out I'm like going to last stage of shock right
Starting point is 02:00:02 behind the tower and Jorge gets to me because he's like after he's triaging everyone he's like like I was going out there to meet Tyler like in the canal he gets to me and I remember seeing him and I don't remember if I said it or if I was like just thought it but I was like Jorge is a Corman like Jorge is a doc like he has drugs and I'm like Jorge
Starting point is 02:00:20 give me fucking drugs like give me fucking drugs I remember trying to like reach for him and he's like he's like lay the fuck down Tyler like he's like lay the fuck down I'm like sitting up they're cutting open my pants chaz my buddy Emmett they're cutting up my pants and I'm like trying to sit up and I'm like I need to see my I need to see my dick and they're like you're fine
Starting point is 02:00:36 And I'm like, okay. Yeah. And fucking, and fucking, and then, like, I was out, I guess. I was out. And Chaz, like, cuts open my pants. And, like, he says, he's, like, nice, Tyler. He's, like, nice, dude, yeah. And so, you know, that happens.
Starting point is 02:00:52 And Jorge is fucking slapping me awake with the whole, you know, keep him awake. Because that's, that's what was happening. Like, I was dying. And then Chas, screw my name fucking, like, was like, oh, fuck, like, I need to live. And so Jorge's slap my face. And he's getting ready to push, fucking. drugs and they're like no like he's dead i'm like in the last stages of shock like going in and out of consciousness and they're putting chest tubes in me on the ground and the mo the medical officers
Starting point is 02:01:17 like we have to move him like don't fucking push medicine like we have to move him like he's going to die like he is dying and so they move me they stop at the shock trauma platoon they stabilize me for just enough few minutes to get me over to the to the role two to the hospital and then my surgeon operated on me for 13 to 14 hours straight from there on and over 48 hours like he was the one he like fucking ringing ball bearings out of my intestines and shit and over 48 hours I had 58 liters of blood transfused I didn't die there I was soda yeah they got they got up to me that's good
Starting point is 02:02:00 thank you we Americans will use anything but the metric system Um Dude when could they actually put in Uh, painkillers because a lot of people We had, remember Braxton got, uh, the S-VS with Braxton. No. He had to wait 45 minutes and he like got, it was a while.
Starting point is 02:02:21 Yeah, I was like, I was like, yeah, like my buddy from the gate to the hospital, like, and when I got to the hospital, like put me on the ground, you know what I mean? There's just like bodies, like lines of, fucking bodies. And to state this plainly, like that killed 200 people, 13 Americans, most importantly, 11 Marines, one soldier and one sailor who will never be forgotten. But there was about 45 wounded total and like, I think seven or eight of us that were like critically wounded. Yeah, so we, I got to the role too. We got laid on the ground and Deegan Page, who was killed in action, Corporal digging page my foot was laying on top of his shoulders um you know we're all like literally
Starting point is 02:03:03 just hunt a hundred fucking bodies on the ground uh as they're trying to pull him into the OR and work on him and shit and uh they he was checked on he was he was dead he had passed and my foot was laying on his shoulder and so um you know my surgeon went to me and he started operating on me and he or he started looking at me and he was like holy like he is still alive like and he still breathing on his own like how the fuck is he alive and what I was told is that uh I think it's the armies international it's like the international survivability scale and out of the like 150 plus wounds injuries that I had I had 60 that were deemed non-survivable according to the army's measurement of like do we push medicine do we give blood do we do any interventions to
Starting point is 02:03:53 try and save his life every like 60 of them were like no do not do it and my surgeon was like I have to do this I don't know why something you know something's telling me and according to him according to every single medical provider in my line of care um nurses to doctors to 45 surgeries later they were like the only outside of my friends and him and everyone operating on me the only reason that I survived the point of injury the point of blast was because of how physically fit I was at the point of injury was 210 pounds lean and had been training for what I thought was going to be a career in special operations and, you know, it ended up being to prepare me for the worst day of my life, you know, and that whole, you can never train
Starting point is 02:04:33 too hard for a job that can kill you. Like, I always said that shit. I instilled in my junior Marines. I instilled in my dudes in the platoon. And, you know, I'm proud to say that I live that, honestly. And, you know, it was, it's crazy to think about. But yeah, like, there's no way. Even when I got to Walter Reed, I'd have like 30 to 50 doctors and nurses and medical providers a day in my room at an ICU and shit because they had not seen an injury this severe, like injuries this severe for like 10 plus years. They were like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:05:06 How is this guy alive? It's a pretty cool tagline for you though, too fit to die. Dude, it's nuts. That's his Tinder profile. I yeah I got so I get to they fly me from Kabul to Germany and in Germany I died two or three times they flew my mom out the DOD called my mom and they're like hey there's been a complex attack blah blah blah blah my little brother was actually like getting ready for school the morning of and it was like hey mom isn't that where ties at and and they saw the blast but they hadn't heard
Starting point is 02:05:40 anything so then by the end of the day they had called her and let her know but they just kept saying like always critically ill whatever could be wounded and a lot you know people have died people have been wounded uh complex attack they were shot out there blown up whatever and then the doD tried to retract that statement months years later but uh they told her like hey don't fly to germany um you're going to pass his body in the air yeah they were they tried to retract that statement yeah they told everyone who was wounded and killed in action all their families the truth that there had been a complex attack that we'd been shot at and blown up and then they You know, they retracted that statement.
Starting point is 02:06:16 They're like, no, this didn't happen. And even though the doctor's notes on multiple friends, multiple Marines who had been shot with 7662, like, they're in their paperwork, in their fucking EAS, like everything, all this stuff they got on the EAS, all their medical paperwork, like it says, like ball bearings here, gunshot wounds here. When you said your buddy shot a dude that was shooting at you guys. Yeah. Yeah, they, the wounded warrior battalion on the. Walter Reed was a weird time for me because like I was the only I was the only person there one that was like not just my age like there were people my age and younger and most older but like I was the only one at Walter Reed there at that time like everyone had left Walter
Starting point is 02:06:58 Reed within two to three weeks and I was still in ICU for like two two and a half months and then I was an inpatient for like another two months or whatever it was but when I got out and was doing PT and OT and OT like I was the only one there that was my age that had been like combat wounded neither here nor there but it was different time like other dudes have been through and there'd be like 10, 20, 30, 40 people at a time that were wounded in the war and my buddies that were wounded that went over to, that were still in and went over to the wounded warrior regiment on the West Coast. They were getting out and they were being told like, don't fucking talk about this. Like don't, don't say this happened this way or you're
Starting point is 02:07:35 going to lose your benefits. Like, oh, fuck off. They're threatening with their benefits. Yeah, they threaten them with their benefits. Yeah. Like they, it was, it was bad. Like, it's still bad. Like, I mean, it's, it's not been answered for it. No one's been held fucking accountable. And, uh, and that's the thing.
Starting point is 02:07:51 Like, it's, it's one of those. The whole situation, it's decades and decades of, you know, poor action and inaction that led to this point. But even then, like, in a moment where, like, we had intel on what we knew was going to happen. And then it did happen. And then people are like, oh, no, like, no, like, no, we didn't know. that but every single person serving there in that time knew that whether it was fucking
Starting point is 02:08:16 three letter agencies down to the dude on the ground you're going to tell me that that that's not what happened i mean it's private's knowing yeah what fucking is going on and what information has been disseminated across i mean it's like mm-mm we didn't do that yeah i mean you look at uh dang it who is the uh football player oh um pat pat Pat Tillman. Tomon, like, all that. And it took the family pushing. And still, it took forever.
Starting point is 02:08:47 To admit what actually happened. Yeah. And that's what's wild about. It's like, why cover shit up? Yeah. These people are sacrificed. Like, the women and men are sacrificed. They sacrifice their lives for this.
Starting point is 02:09:00 And the least you can do is, is 100% it. Because the truth is politically inconvenient. Yep. It absolutely is. And that's the thing is it's like, I said this earlier when we started like it's it's a war fighting organization right like we know people are going to die we know people are going to get hurt we know people are going to fucking be severely hurt physically and mentally but if we don't learn from the things that happen then how are we
Starting point is 02:09:25 going to get better how are we going to get stronger how are we going to get more lethal like we know people are going to die yeah that's the fucking reality of war like you you should learn from the mistakes and like we're sitting there I'm in my tower in our tower like you know the administration goes on and is like we'll never see chinooks take politicians off an embassy again like in sagon and then same fucking day or the next day we watched chinooks land on the fucking embassy in afghanistan and pull politicians out and it's like was that the same schnook i don't know if it was but it looked the exact same i couldn't tell if that was real or not somebody said it was literally the same fucking i mean i i'd believe it it's yeah it's i mean it's
Starting point is 02:10:04 unfortunate man it's uh it's uh it's why i mean And, like, it's the one thing I don't, I hate, like, politics, getting political, anything, but that is one thing where you know, no. It's like, the government, the military, you get to see the shitty side of that. And they don't give a fuck about you in the VA. And you're like, yo, y'all can go fuck yourselves if you think I'm going to care about you in any aspect until you stand up and actually fight for shit. We have done or put our lives on the, we put our lives on the line for. And then that to happen. And then when you get back and then there's all, oh, hey, for the VA, oh, well, eh, we'll give you, let me see one.
Starting point is 02:10:50 How's your, you work, right? You get 50% disability. Congrats, man. I'd be like, get to f*** out of. I don't know if I can name a single group of, you know, regardless of political affiliation, but a single group of people that trusts the government less than combat bets. Yeah. 100% literally not
Starting point is 02:11:10 it's unfortunate man like the whole you know I love my country but I fucking hate my government man I'm not left or right I'm American you know that's it
Starting point is 02:11:21 it's like you support and it sucks because those are your brothers and sisters that you deployed with and with and it's hard finding that anywhere else
Starting point is 02:11:31 like it is I think that's what a lot of vets struggle with is finding that outside there are military career and that's what's scary because you can't find that again and when you do you're like oh yeah but unfortunately a lot don't and that's it just fucking sucks but i will praise you for having the balls to tell that story to honor the individuals that are part of that story and then to
Starting point is 02:11:57 like trying to hold people accountable and unsubs really good at that we're really fucking we try to be it's kind of a hobby it's kind of a hobby yeah I appreciate that very much I mean I mean quite literally you know I've never I've never myself battled with Survivors Guild
Starting point is 02:12:16 or anything like that it's and maybe that's because of how f*** up I got physically or you know because my fucking because friends and Marines died right next to me I mean it's
Starting point is 02:12:28 I don't know what it is but I I just would hope that one of my buddies is a stand up and tell the truth if I wasn't here anymore, you know? I mean, it's the least I can do. It's like even the fucking testifying in front of Congress in 2023, like so, especially the families, that's what ate me up. Like so many people are like, oh, this is incredible.
Starting point is 02:12:47 This is amazing that you went and did this. And I'm like, no, you know what's sad is that accountability is so foreign in our military and our government and our fucking, in the political culture of our fucking country that me going before the House of Representatives and the House Foreign Affairs Committee and telling the truth about what happened seems like this amazing fucking thing and it's not someone with way more frank and weight on their caller should have come forth
Starting point is 02:13:12 and told the fucking truth and been like yeah we made a mistake like people died we made a mistake they're already fucking gone so why don't we try and do better and I went and I had the opportunity very very fucking thankfully had the opportunity to go and tell the truth and like it blew up
Starting point is 02:13:29 but it was just like no it's not this great thing it's just what should be done like it's a responsibility to my friends who aren't here anymore to the great Americans that we lost and the tens of thousands of Americans that we've lost and wars passed I mean it's
Starting point is 02:13:46 you know if we're not going to fucking get better from our mistakes and what the fuck are we doing you know it's the standard it should be the fucking standard of what happens I don't think you have like Survivor Gil is I don't think you have that because you are doing that it is here is my mission And here's my next job.
Starting point is 02:14:05 And I'm going to do this the best I can. And you are also in that level of shit with those individuals. And I think you have that same mindset. Maybe I could be off, but it's the same mindset as my buddies would be pissed if I was depressed or sad about it. I'm going to be sad. I'm going to mourn them. But then I'm going to move on. I'm going to have.
Starting point is 02:14:26 Absolutely. I'm going to crush the individuals that made this situation even a possibility. It's okay to hurt, but it's not okay to fight. stay there and, you know, I mean, I've got it on my shirt. I fucking, I live by that, man. I, you know, I'm a casualty of war, but I'll never be a victim of what's happened to me. And, you know, I knew the nature of my job. I knew the risk of my job. Like, yeah, it shouldn't have happened, but it did, you know, that's the reality. It did. I can't change that. And so why the fuck am I, if I, if I don't feel sorry for myself, I'm not going to feel sorry for you, you know. It's like, life's too fucking short, man. I just trying to make a good impact. And, you know, that's, that's it. Like, I find, I guess the best way I can say is like if, you know, we would have no frame of reference for how truly beautiful life could be if we did not truly understand the hardship and the pain that also follows in life. If things were great all the time, then it would just, you know, it'd be whatever. If things are bad all the time, it'd be whatever. But we have to go through the hardship and, you know, it's up to you.
Starting point is 02:15:28 It's up to anyone. Whether it's big or small, it's, you know, your pain, all of you, like, the worst thing that you go through is the worst thing that you go through. worst thing that I go through is the worst thing that I go through. And all of our own pain, trauma, and struggle and strife is relative to what we've been through in life. Perspective. It is, absolutely. It's 100% perspective.
Starting point is 02:15:44 Peaks and valleys. Yep. Ah, I love it. Well, shit. Well, we appreciate you coming on and telling your story, brother. I appreciate you guys very much. Thanks for having me. Seriously.
Starting point is 02:15:55 It's our pleasure. It's an honor. Yeah. Hopefully I didn't sound like an idiot on here. That's what we do. That's our job. That's the crime. We bear.
Starting point is 02:16:06 Let us be fucking stupid, dude. It's the albatross around our neck. I was going to make one quick joke because on that camera it's framed with how this is holding it. It says, ever the victim. You're like, no, never. I think on April Fool's,
Starting point is 02:16:23 I'm probably going to do like always a victim, you know? Dude, yes, please. We will help sell that for it. Dude, thank you so much. Dude, I cannot, I will, a loss of words, it's individuals like yourself and through the trials and tribulations you have been through that motivate the fuck out of me. It makes me appreciate my life and make me want to do better. So just thank you, Tyler, for everything you have done so far. No thing's ever needed.
Starting point is 02:16:57 And it's daily. I mean, you guys do it yourselves. Like we talked about at lunch, it's, you know, you guys. got that I've got hundreds by now if not thousands of DMs just like man you're the reason I think myself today and it's like that's that's why I fucking live my life the way that I do you know it's to hopefully stop that one person or just quite literally give them perspective like you know what yeah I'm feeling shitty bad things have been happening in my life but there's a line it's like am I going to feel sorry for myself and give up or am I just going to fucking learn from
Starting point is 02:17:28 it and move forward so you guys have made a significant impact and continue to do so but I'm I'm grateful to be a small part in that and thank you for the opportunity to come hang out and talk. We really do appreciate it, brother. Yeah, appreciate you guys. Of course me. Thank you very much. Where do we find you? Get in here, brother. Oh, yeah. We just started making out. I'd be like, well, that was weird. We'll stick together. Two hours and ten minutes. Marine Navy, yeah. Where do we find you at? Whistling death on Instagram. I very professionally left,
Starting point is 02:18:03 So I've started my journey earlier this year as a blade smith. Oh, we're going to talk about this next. No, I very professionally left all of my handmade and production blades at home. I put my blade that I made us all a cute matching set and Nick as well. And you. I left him at home. Yeah, I have, I have mine because I put it, so I have my gun. So now he's just bragging.
Starting point is 02:18:23 Yeah, bragging. But I put it in my gun case traveling, like in my little Pelkin case. But I made all of us matching, matching blades. so I'm going to end up shipping them out but that's made by me one hand quite literally hand and claw makes it even cooler and then literally handmade
Starting point is 02:18:44 yeah just oh we're gonna oh and where do they find this tyrantdesign.com same with the merch and stuff I hopped on you know I got the opportunity to hop in with you guys and bunker branding and whatnot
Starting point is 02:18:57 so very grateful for that but yeah no it's been it's been great I'll get you I'll be, once I moved and have my forge shut up whenever you guys
Starting point is 02:19:06 want to come out and learn how to force some Damascus let me know you guys out shoot some guns and before we go to the after show
Starting point is 02:19:13 that's when after show is going to be talking about like blacksmithing hell yeah I want to know you're like oh yeah
Starting point is 02:19:19 oh yeah we're going to nerd out because I'm like this is going to be one of those where I sit patiently and nod because I
Starting point is 02:19:26 know well that's true okay I do have a little bit of Cody's going to be like what the fuck are they talking about Cody, you beautiful son of a bitch God, you look good today.
Starting point is 02:19:36 Goodbye, everyone. What? The hair does look great. Dude, your hair looks on point today. I just want to copy money really quick. They're nice to me fucking sometimes. It's really cool. Bye, everyone.
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