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Okay. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the unsuscribed podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tap, Justin Taylor, Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator. Thank you so much for coming. How are y'all doing, dude? It's excited.

Yeah, good to be here. God, I keep looking at my brother. It fucking weirds me out so much. It's like Che is right next to me. I'm like, oh, okay, nope, that's not Chee. You guys actually met Justin before I did. Yeah, up in Austin. Yep.

I remember what we were up there for. Battled ships. Oh, that's right. Yeah, World War ships. Yeah. Oh, no shit. Yeah. They gave me like some free coin.

And stuff, I don't know what to do with them. No, we never do. Yeah. I tried to sell them on eBay. They weren't worth a lot. Like, just gave you free coins? Yeah, they were, gave, forced upon is a better use of the word. But yeah, they were given to me.

Like, sweet, dope. You guys got coins right? And you're like, yeah, we just got coins. It's like merch that you give out at events and stuff where it's cool to the average person for us. It's like, fuck, where do I put this? I'll put it in my other stack of event merch. I don't know if you, we probably all do the same. We love the brands we work with.

We all get a lot of it. We give it away to random people. I give that shit away to random people. Sometimes I respond to my PO box mail and I'll just go in my storage room and just pick up shit that companies have sent me and put it in a box and send it to random people that send me shit to my PO box. Half the people I give it to are the cleaning ladies at the hotel when I leave. Oh, yeah. A dude shot show. Yeah.

Those ladies walk away with gift bags of knives and whatever else. Yeah. Yeah, the other week. I just give them to homeless people when I'm walking through the Vegas strip. Knives. Yeah. Knives in your leftover booze. Yeah.

There you go. Have fun. It's a bottle of whiskey with a knives taped onto it. Have a ball gentleman jack. You need this. You need this more than I do. There's copper over there. That officer has copper in his blood.

He's giving the homeless guy a bag of Adderall and a Glock. You'll be their leader. We're good people. So Brandon, we were working out, and then he told me a story. So if you guys, Justin, give a quick synopsis of what you do. My name's Justin. I make YouTube videos where I talk about military people, places, and things. It's like my thing, I guess.

It's pretty fun. Channel's booming right now, too, man. How many subs are you up at? Close to 180,000. So for less than a year since I've started taking it seriously, I'm fairly happy with that. No, no too big complaints. Let it make you guys go 200,000. Pump them numbers.

No, we could get that there. Our artists are on it right now. Brandon told the story about on the flight or when did you hear the story of? Yeah, I told the story that you told me in Austin where the guy that was sitting next to you on the plane you didn't recognize. Oh, yeah. So I was coming home from college one time. This is like my sophomore year of college, I think. Where did you go to college at?

I went to West Point. There we go. So key factor right there. But that's like why the person is relevant. So normally this wouldn't matter. But I'm flying home. I'm like exhausted. And I'm sitting in this window seat.

I'm leaning on it. I'm just like tired. And then this guy sits down in the middle seat, the older guy. and he looks at me and I guess I had like a West Point shirt on or something and we're coming back from New York and so put the two to together it's not too hard and he looks at me and he goes like

oh you're going home I'm like yeah you know going home and I put my earphone back in and he like taps my shoulder again and he goes like I'm your senator I'm like oh fuck sir I'm so sorry it's great to see you all this other stuff and then he's just talking to me and then

I don't know if I told you guys this part But he then went on like this thing where he's like, yeah, I just got back from from Israel and we were doing this thing where we're seeing how the, their military does things and they do something I think we really should do. I'm like, okay, I'll buy it. What is it? But he's like, we need, they take all of their autistic people and use them for cyber warfare. And we need to do that here in the States. I'm like, that's a we don't do that. I mean, like, I don't think we pursue it as aggressively as we could right now.

We don't openly do it. We don't openly do it. It's kind of just like a passive nice thing to have. So like weaponized autism? Literally, literally weaponized autism. And so, I mean, if you need anyone to appoint to head that group, I'll more than happy to take on that mantle of responsibility of leading the autists towards cyber victory. Oh, no one's going to make eye contact or raise their voice. Yeah, just like leading World War III on a Discord server.

It's going to be awesome. Oh, okay. That's what they did in the accountant. too remember yeah yeah she had the room full autistic people on the computers and it's like the big screens like in some kind of intelligence agents literally just 4chan well the reason that's funny too is because if you don't know in order to get uh to either to apply to west point i think you have to have a sponsor like from either your congressman or senator right yeah you have to have um a nomination right what it's called so once you get the nomination then like your packet is complete and then

then you submit it then you get an appointment once you're you get an appointment once you're you have your nomination. It's like this whole convoluted process. So is this a senator who nominated you? It was. And I interviewed with him and his office is the one who directly gave me my nomination. Oh, hold up. You interviewed? Yeah. No.

In person? Yeah. So it wasn't with him specifically. So how they well, I mean, I met him in the office, but how they do it is before the plane ride? But yeah, this was like a cut. This was like while I was still in high school. Before he got into West Point. Yeah. Even better now. But like they literally sit you at this table. And it's different.

for every person that does this but they just sit you at this table and you have all these old white dudes who are like super crusty and they're like why should you go to west pulling you're like i don't know it seems cool i guess like i could work hard i know how to read but that's about it so it was it was a good hour long just grilling of why i wanted to do it and the answer that even i told you today was i have no idea but it seems like a good idea at the time i nominated you you again, fuck off. Yeah. You're the reason I'm on the, yeah, exactly.

Like, damn, okay, what the fuck? Why do you want to go to West Point? Oh, I don't know. They were the ones who sent me the packet. I thought they wanted me. And you joined later. You did the officer route, and then you actually, what you, did you join?

So I commissioned as a lieutenant in 2018. 2018, which is wild. is like still a long time ago now that I actually, Jesus, that's seven years ago. Yeah. We're getting old. Yeah. But like kids will still ask me like, and I feel bad because they'll be like, oh, how do I get in? I'm like, do you, I don't fucking know idea, man.

Like, you know, that was like over 10 years ago for me. And like, the process probably changed a ton. And also like I got in by the skin of my teeth. Like, I was the most average person ever. And it's also like by region. So like the joke I say is like I'm from Arkansas. So like, it was me. and another guy and he couldn't read so they're like I guess we'll go with you I'm

like all right cool me all the kids from like Texas and California's are like I was the I scored the highest SAT score ever in the whole world and I'm like that's cool I made it to 17 without a new yeah exactly we'll take him he's destined for greatness how was West Point as a whole when you go is it like basic training when you join they're cutting your head hair out the gate and then you're just going into the mix because I don't know here's the shark attack versus here is college because Cody

knows shark attack everything like that like basics basic pretty much across the board. Yeah so what they do is you have this initial like you show up in like mid like end of June early July time frame and you do a six at least six weeks when I went through

they call it CBT cadet basic training and it's all like the normal basic training stuff where it's you know they shave your head you've hot and sweaty all the time everyone smells bad and you do all the basic like marching and running and doing all you know getting yelled at and stuff um it's done there in new york yeah that's that's like on campus but there's a lot of like other like weird rules that go along with it so like one rule is um like we're not allowed to talk outside of our room like that's for your whole first year you're not allowed to talk outside of your room so i want my entire freshman year of college

only being allowed to talk inside of like either the classroom I was actively in or my barracks room and like you have to walk along I have the same rule of SAV yeah and just shaking her head

and like so like it's called so they call basically training beast and not because it's hard but it's supposed to be like a demeaning thing where it's like all right you are no longer a human you are a new cadet and so like you know you you have to walk around with your hands cupped like this, you have to walk, and that's like your whole freshman year too, and you have to

walk like inside along with your shoulder brushing the hallway as you're going through and you have to like square every single corner and like all these other stupid things. Like you have to set up like the tables. So how it works is like you have assigned seating tables for all your meals and there's three freshmen per table. And they're in charge of like making sure like all the food set out, all the plates are set out, all this other stuff. And, um, And, like, you have to, like, know, like, all of the meals that are in advance. So, like, any upperclassman would have come up to me and be like, what am I having for dinner tomorrow? And I'll be like, sir, you aren't for dinner.

You are having. And I'd list out all the things that. So you had to, like, have those memorized. You had to have all these other things memorized. And it is stupid. And I guarantee you did the exact same thing. But the second you are a sophomore and up, you now treat them like shit. Yeah.

Yeah, there's a little pint of aggression. Or you're like, all right, I got mine time. get yours and uh it never breaks the cycle no and you're like this sucks i'm gonna do it to the next iteration after me though yeah like the uh sounds you just described my family tree you're like one thing they do and i don't know if they're going to be happy about me saying this but it's true is um so everyone's always just waiting for the first person to quit so the first person you can quit west point anytime before you like affirm your sophomore year so anytime before that you're allowed to quit um so every like but there's always like 10 or 15 to 20

people who quit on the very first day and um and everyone's just waiting around for it so i remember like my sophomore year we were out doing like field training out nearby and we're like literally sitting in a patrol base in the middle of the woods like pulling security and someone gets a radio call like we know it was their first day that it only been going for like an hour or two and they're like we got the first quitter and everyone's like yeah like it was this an hour what the fuck think they were getting into? There was one this year that I saw that people were floating around where so at the

end of your first day you have this big parade and the whole point of that is to show like oh we've already taken your son and or daughter from this dirty civilian high school or to this well uniformed person or whatever and someone while they're doing like a pass interview so while the big group was passing

the general person they just left they like walked out in front of like thousands of people just walked right into the stands and there's like there's one clip of it that I've seen where the general's like turn around like what the fuck like get the fuck back in there and they're just dead face going I thought that was pretty bold so that was pretty good just again back to Cody's statement how the fuck did you think west point was going to be this are people going in like this is going to be a blast they get a party and drink they

they kind of like boasted as like oh I mean like they always say you know it's the premier leadership experience or you know this that and the other um and it's kind of like like the oh it's a people always told me like going there is like it's a good place to be from it's not a good place to be so it's like if you can just like stick it out you'll be okay um whether or not that was true has yet to i'm still waiting for that to pay off um i'm sure you know maybe the next 10 years i'll get like a cool letter in the mail or something asking for money asking yeah asking for money i'm like oh the government taxpayer funded institution needs my money that's great love that you get your name on a plaque though with like yeah

That would be super worth it. Oh, man. Do you have to pay? Actually, do you have to pay for West Point? It's free. All the service academies are free. So it's just as long as you get picked, then it's a full scholarship. Yeah, I mean, like, you have to serve afterwards, obviously.

But, like, they give you, like, a really small stipend. Like, I think my freshman year I made, like, $150 a month, which in New York gets you, like, to the end of the road and back. bread uh yeah bread um if you walk or uber yeah literally so um you know at the time you're like 18 you're like fuck i don't have any bills i can get 150 bucks a month this is the best fucking thing ever it's yeah one two uh fuck yeah in arkansas 150 bucks is pretty cool you can do you could take over an entire county for 150 bucks and like and position yourself with the same 150 bucks to take over the next county you'll probably need another inflot you have to probably wait for

the next month but you're you're sitting good to you're playing the game of risk with rural arkansas oh yeah it'd be super easy dude i can't imagine going to like military college that is i can't imagine going to college period but if i did i think military college would be very low on the docket of things eli would like to test as the dude that went to basic training i i wanted to go to the citadel for a while like when i was still in high school what's the citadel it's it's kind of like a west point thing but it's in it's in Charleston, South Carolina. I've never heard of this.

The only thing that, well, I actually went to there, I went to go visit, and that was what made me realize I didn't want to go to the Citadel. Really? Yeah, like this actually looks kind of, I don't think I want to do this anymore. And you have to pay for it. That's the crazy thing for me is that you have to deal with all the bullshit

of like a normal military college, but you're paying them to do it. Like a full, like, two-way. that yeah didn't seem like the path I wanted to go yeah at least you learn really quick you're like uh not today oh geez beautiful school it's very pretty they have a cool like tile thing in the center yeah I forget what they call that uh but they like as a punishment they make you walk it oh we just board yeah we had to do that too yeah yeah we it's called walking hours like but you do you get it for everything so like I was late for one class once

and I and like they only do it on the weekends too you have to wear a clock I wish it didn't something to break of the monotony but yeah like I was late for one class and I got five hours so I lost my Friday and Saturday like putting on full dress uniform I had an M14 with a bayonet in my fancy

uniform just walking back and forth and we actually got in trouble because there were so many of us because it was like towards the end of semester so dudes were accidentally like sleeping through classes and stuff and so they put us on like this big formation that we were marching in circles and we got in trouble because we were doing

like the 99 bottles of beer on the wall thing and we got down to like 30 and that's a long time and then like some major came over was like hey cut that shit out we're like oh sorry back to just dreary breathing

I guess yeah I forget fuck fuck games until I hear fuck fuck games I'm like oh yeah I completely remember why oh yeah stand there and watch that clock for the next three hours

and just walking in formation yeah just in circles over and over again we would just do like private was like they just you put a giant clock on them i don't know if you ever did that oh yeah soldiers they would have like a giant giant clock you put on privates that they fucked up or relate to formation it's like you get aware of the clock big guy and they just walk around all day with that thing dude there was one of my employee group chat uh i saw it was like i was uh an instagram reel where it was somebody who was being brought to basically getting punished for pawning their fucking helmet before formation

he's like let me understand this correctly you do not have your helmet because you pawned it for money yes sir like you could tell like the guy's fuming like he doesn't even know what the fuck to do with it

I don't even know what I do with that and then he brought up his NCO they're just like did you not know that he pawned his fucking helmet He's like he borrowed it from his friend so he passed inspection He's like and the only thing I could think of as I'm watching this go down because like the guy's recording the video He's like I don't even know what the fuck to do with you right now as I'm thinking how scary would this be If the guy you were reporting to was rich

Oh, oh if that was angry cops my god Oh how much could you even get for like a shitty old helmet like a hundred bucks if that yeah? Yeah It's at one of those across the the fort. It's literally across the base. It's going to be one of those, the foxhole or whatever little mom and pop. Because those are the ones that,

like they have so many of them. Yeah. They're just, they have tons of them and you know they don't give you shit compared to what they sell them for. Especially still at the end of the day. More on the line of, I check this out.

My name's attached to this. This is a serial number. and then you walk to that place and book, how much are you going to give for this? What's stupid is like, you have to turn that in. Like,

you don't get to keep your helmet. So, like, even if you pawned it for like 50 bucks and the army's going to turn out and charge you like 400 bucks for a new one. Yeah. But then he said,

like, they make you turn in the smallest piece of equipment too. Yeah. And if not, like, you're wooby. You have to turn in your woobie, you're sleeping.

Like literally everything almost gets turned in. I lost mine. Yeah, same. It's crazy. But they specifically said he pawned because he needed money for a date.

That checks out. That's private. With a stripper. Most likely. That loves them. I don't know how some of these kids think they're not going to be caught. We had these two E3s when I was working auxiliary security on Norfolk Naval Base. They one of them got a gun somehow and they went to the movie theater on base and did a committed

an armed robbery, three of them in the car that was registered to them and registered to the base. Like no one's ever going to find out. They stole all of like $60. in cash with a gun, three of them. Yeah. Well, that was the one like those bunch of Rangers that, that robbed that bank. You remember that? The reason

they got caught, like they executed everything flawlessly, except one of the dipshits, the getaway driver, remove the front plate and not the back license plate or vice versa. He had the presence of mind to remove one of the license plates. And then didn't.

And that was how they, somebody phoned it in. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah yeah Jesus there's also those rangers who like stole a bunch of stuff from an arms room from like a base that everyone already like knew and could recognize them and like wait I don't know that story

yeah there's like these rangers and like apparently they were already out but they used their VA car to get onto base and there's a group of like three or four of them and so they went and like they went to like this arms room and there's a guy in there and they the one dude like fought off like three of them somehow

and it ended up like pulling off one of the masks of them and then they're like oh shit we fucking know who that is and so then like Bill? Yeah the next day like they all got like hemmed up because like they stole from like their old unit so their buddies were like yeah that's obviously so and so

dude I love smart criminals don't get caught that's like isn't that saying like, well, I mean, obviously, because the level of stupidity on the one that gets caught is amazing to me. It's like the plane diagram with survivorship bias. Oh, yeah. Criminals are stupid.

No, the criminals you hear about are stupid. Jesus. When you were in, what was your, I forgot, like being a lieutenant, being a captain, you had to deal with some amazing. Amazing Americans. Yes. Yes, I did. What is like one of the worst ones where it just stuck with you?

I always love this. You're going to see the true shit back in the military. So one that will never leave me and like to the stage just like makes me super angry. And it's actually like two kids because they were like fucking bud buddies. And I can already hear the resentment. Oh, I'm angry thinking about it. So if I have to breathe more, it's because my heart rates through the roof. So this guy he gets in brand new private.

It's like 18 years old. Him and his buddy. They're like buddies from basic training. And like already they're just kind of like shitbacks. Like they never want to do anything. They suck. They're like getting into fights with dudes. And like we had a really cohesive platoon and company at the time.

So like the fact that they were like getting into fights with people like fish fights in the on a range. We're like what the fuck is going on here? And so like at one point we're like, all these dudes like something bad's going to happen. We need to like figure out like it was like me, my platoon sergeant, company commander. and we're like, how do we deal with this? Before we get a chance to figure out how to deal with this, you know, private so-and-so one day just doesn't show it from morning formation.

We're like, hmm, that's weird. So we go ask his buddies, like, where is he? We ask his roommate. Like, where is he? He goes, I don't know. I don't know. And then, well, his car is in the parking lot? Like, something weird's happening.

We're calling him a million times. We're texting him. We go to like his like family roster. Like, because we had, we had all the. you know, contact information for people's families in case somebody this happened. And so, like, we call his mom, we calls his aunts. And, like, after like a day,

I'm like, I finally get his mom on the phone. I'm like, hey, is, do you know where private so-and-so is, your son? And she goes, like, yeah, he's here. I'm like, where is here? And she's like, Los Angeles. And for reference, I was in Fort Hood at the time here in Texas. So nowhere close.

Oops. So I'm like... You might need a pass. and you have to put in paperwork if you go over how many miles like 250 and I think that I think I'm not a you know geography expert but I do believe Kaleen Texas is more than 250 miles away from Los Angeles anyway good odds on that someone can fact check me that you did go to college yeah and um it's at West Point education yeah I know where I know where major cities in the United States are it's great you two can figure you two can learn this information if you apply yourself but so I'm like okay is he okay like we're like what the fuck is going on

she goes like yeah um he's he's fine but he's we don't think he's gonna come back and we're like what what do you mean he's not coming back like there's a certain crime that describes that yeah it's like so like we're like okay I get we're like well we kind of saw this coming like we throw him on like the no fly list we like put him on a wall status all this other stuff I finally get in contact with him you go on the no fly list if you go a wall if you're on if are AWOL. If you're AWOL and you try to go through like TSA or you get pulled over, you're supposed to like immediately get arrested. I never do that. Yeah. Like those dudes who like you hear stories where dudes are like AWOL for like 30 years or something. That has to be the most stressful thing. Because you get one take it. You get pulled over one time and it's like you haven't been to Fort Bragg in 30 years. But boy, you're going back. Like anyway. What do they do with people like that? Like let's say you've been AWOL for like two years. They catch you. What's? If it's like two, you're. If it's like two, you're. I think it's like, there's like, it's not really a statute of limitations on it. But like kind of how I've seen it is like, if it's like 30 years or something crazy,

they're just going to be like, all right, man, like here's just some really quick paperwork and like send you on your way. They might go to jail. They might get a fine. At that point, it's kind of like whatever. We don't, not like we can use you now. Yeah. If it's like two years, dudes will typically get like arrested and like actually serve like a full punishment, like get crime, maybe sent off somewhere depending on like what they did, you know, because a lot of times like if a dude is caught AWOL,

it's he's being arrested so he's now you're stacking up stuff on top i can't imagine living 30 years without having without flying or having a cop run your information in any way it it doesn't always work but that's how it's supposed to work so like the first thing we did was and like for us it didn't work and i'll get to that part later because like as soon as we found out we're like no fly list um anyway finally get a hold to him and and we're like what is going on the the short of the long is that he went all the way back to Los Angeles to film a rap video with his friends. And if it was good, if it was a good song,

if it was a good music video, whatever, I'd have been more forgiving, but the song itself was also trash. I'm like, this is unforgivable. Can you shout it out? What was it?

I don't even remember, but if I find it, I will sit it to you guys. We'll put it right here. Right. Right there. And so then, and that was like annoying.

It's like, all right, whatever. It's just a kid being really stupid. He's 18. I did stupid stuff later. When he gets back, he comes back with his mom and his aunt. So they all come back and like he had been feeding his family these lies, basically.

So like this guy had been in- Well, I think you told us part of this. Yeah, maybe. Like he had been with us for like maybe six weeks. And okay, and in that six weeks, we hadn't gone to the field at all. We were like on the tape. We were like just starting our train-up cycle. So the only things we were doing, we're like going to the range and doing basic marksmanship.

doing maintenance for stuff that we're going to do in a few months, like getting ready for the hard stuff. We hadn't spent, he had not spent a single night out of his bed, like, in the whole time he was with us. And it was like during the drawdown of COVID. So like a lot of stuff was still like super careful. And like that slowed down training for the military a ton. This is a peacetime army too. Yeah, yeah. No, like this kid was just like showing up, collecting a paycheck.

And like I was a benevolent dictator. I let my guys go early. So like he was also like back in his barracks by like three. 30 p.m. most days. Like I was like, he had it like super easy. So he comes back with his, uh, with his mom and his aunt.

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Yes, that race. Who's that bokemon? Well, it's the same thing, like, arresting people. You would have mom and auntie would always come in with the 18, 19 year old. Needs to speak to the arresting officer, needs to speak to their sergeant, lieutenant, and the chief of police. Yeah. Need to speak with him right now. Yeah, she was, like, demanding, like, our, like, Fullbird Colonel.

I'm like, I think he's a little busy for what's going on right now, but I'll shoot him an email, never shot him an email. He's going to say, I didn't know you could just walk on. to a base and demand parlay with whoever runs it. Something had just happened. I think it was like some big scandal I think had just hit around that time where we were all like super sensitive to that kind of stuff. So like even our commander was like, hey, we're like in full damage control right now. Like if they like if one more thing hits the media from this base like because it's

Fort Hood, so like a lot of bad stuff at the time was coming out of Fort Hood. Like if one more thing comes out of Fort Hood like we're all toasted and we're never going to see the live day again. And so we're like, yeah, sure, whatever. And so she like she had this like notebook like you know like the black and white splotchy notebooks you give to like third graders Yeah the composition books. It's wide. Of course it's wide. It's not going to be college ruled because those lines are too narrow for these kinds of people. And it makes me angry and it looked like she had like these notes that she had written and it was scribbled as if she was holding the pen down like this writing like this and like the most like unintelligent. things ever and she's like these are all the things you did bad to my son and she's like she's like you you waited until you got there to write them it's the the handwriting looked like she did it while

like trying to balance on like a unicycle or something it was oh you didn't see her using the pen oh no no no no i just figured based on the size and how not to be like that guy judging people on their handwriting but there is a level where you're like all right there's something like wrong here literate yeah and she's like you've been emotionally mentally abusing my son and like you starved him so like he got COVID once and he had to like go in quarantine for a week and like you starved him for a week

I had to send him money for food and we're like we literally had a detail of like 10 dudes who would regularly bring people food and like we asked his roommate who's quarantined with him and we're like hey you guys got fed right they're like yeah we didn't even eat half the stuff you guys gave us because like we just ordered pizzas and we're like okay

so obviously not and so we're like okay well there's where that food money went though yeah and so it's like well and like at the time I was like all right well maybe I missed something like you know I'm I'm three levels up from where he is so maybe like his team leader or squad leader or section leader or doing something that like I missed somehow I'm like can you please give me examples like I want to make sure this isn't like a thing and they're like well we don't flipping back and forth between the same two pages like well I don't have any here but you've been abusing my son we're like all right I don't think we've been abusing your son um I think he's like I please give me examples because I think you're just a bitch but I I want to make sure. Oh, at that point, like, I was just like... E.C.B.A. It's a bad draw. Yeah.

It's just mean army man. Yeah. He's crying, big tears. And she's like, she's like, you haven't been taking his asthma into account. We're like, your son has asthma, and he signed up to be in the infantry. Like, what are you doing? And she's like, well, he lied at MEPs about the asthma thing. We're like, okay, so perjury. So that's very illegal.

also he lied yeah interesting and then um and then i remember like they're like okay well we think he i should mention this whole time it's just him and his mom and his auntie talking at us and he's like sitting in the corner like all hunched over like all like hmm-hmm whatever and we're like oh i fucking hate you so much like i'm just looking at them like i'm gonna rip your throat out the second these people leave the 18 year old kid oh yeah and um and and and and and And so they're like, well, I think, I don't know if I'm allowed to, hopefully even want to say this, but he's like, oh, you know, like, and she, you guys have made him like, we're like, okay, like, you've said the magic words. Like, we'll go do the little checklist we got to do now. And then, like, so I had to, like, escort him over to the hospital.

And I remember there's like a little incline. And I should also mention mommy and auntie were not in the best shape ever. So this is like a small win I had for the day. Mild shock. Yeah. Yeah, really. The parking lot that we stopped at was like. slightly downhill of the hospital so i like walked really fast up the of the hill so i just heard them

going behind me i'm like that's my only win for today like i had to get that in i'd be like man first off statistically speaking he's not wise so he's not going to kill himself true second why are you winded yeah okay just go on but uh and yeah and so like when we we got there and we get we i go because i'm an escort at that point i'm not allowed to leave his side like legally according to the army not allowed to leave his side and so we go into this room and it's me him and this you know army psych and they're like okay you know you're and all this other stuff and she goes like well I don't like they talk for a few minutes and she's like the psych was like I don't think you're you don't have a plan to kill yourself and he goes like oh I'm gonna take a lot

of pills and she goes there it is and she like writes it down I shit you know that's how the conversation went and and then like and then like she pulls her outside she goes like is he in trouble or something I'm like yeah he's in a lot of trouble and she goes like yeah that makes sense um yeah and then the sudden onset socialism disorder it's crazy how that works uh but run away but stick yeah but for the for the next like six weeks because it's not just instant like you're out the next day he had to like do all this out processing and like get cleared by mental health and all that other stuff so he was still with us for like six weeks to two months And like, sure enough, someone's like, hey, we got to paint.

So I'm like, stop there. I got someone for you. Say less. To the point where like, even my own commander is like, hey, Justin, we got to cut that out. I'm like, I'm going to keep fucking destroying this kid. Like, I don't care. And because he like, he caused me like so much. That was like 90% of my time then turned into like dealing with this kid instead

of like my actual soldiers who were like motivated one to train. And like, and we were like on the upscale of like a training cycle. So we're like, I'm like, I'm really fucking busy. I'm trying to focus on the other thing. things and I have to make sure that like this guy checked into the CQ desk every hour to make sure he didn't you know off himself or whatever if you're gonna steal Valor we're gonna make you pay for it oh oh yeah he paid for it but so he had a buddy and his buddy was like this like super hick kid and they were like they were but and like no one in the platoon liked them no one in the company liked them so they kind of like just banded together and we're like if we could just like we're like my my boss is like, okay, these people are cancer and we have to keep everyone away from them so they don't infect anyone else.

And so sure enough, like a few weeks later, like this kid comes into my office, he's like literal tears in his eyes. He's like, I don't want to be in the army anymore. And we're like, okay, what's going on? Like, let's have a talk. Me and my platoon's army, wait, brought him in the office, closed the door. Very respectful.

We're like, hey, you know, maybe this other kid was a fuck up. Maybe we can save this kid. Like, you know, we can always use another gun on the line. So like, let's try to like do like be okay with this kid so like very honest conversation we're like all right what's what's going on he was like well I joined the army on a

on a dare and I don't want to be here anymore we're like what do you mean you join the army on a dare and like he's like actually crying while he's saying this he was like well my uncle said I wouldn't do it and I said no and then I did and we're like oh fuck dude like you're and now you're here in our office wearing a cable uniform how long's he been in at this point maybe like

two three months like oh and again like the hard stuff hadn't even the hard stuff being away like training at overnight if you want to call it that hadn't even really started yet so and so this kid like we're like all right well and he's like well i have like a few good reasons why i think i should be out of the army we're like okay what are they and he's like well one my uncle runs a lawnmower business and people won't show up for work we're like okay um don't know how that's your problem but Okay, you know what? That's, you care about your family, man?

What's the next one? And he's like, well, my mom got fired. And we're like, okay, you know, that's whatever. Two things that aren't relevant so far. Yeah, we're like, all right, you know, really hoping for this third. Hey, uh, tur, can you take a pause? This guy, mom got laid off. The mom got laid off.

Just at least wait for the unemployment to kick in and then keep doing what you're doing, true believer. True believer goes so hard. Oh, yeah. And they're like, all right, really banking on this third one. And he goes like, well, I can't be with my fiance. We're like, all right, you know, family separation's hard. We've all been there. Like, what's the deal?

Why can't she just come here and all this stuff? She's like, well, her parents won't let her until she lives with her parents and her parents will let her until she graduates. Like, oh, like. graduate what? He goes like high school. And we're like, oh, God. Like, we're getting another one.

And then, sure enough, week later, private so-and-so is not a morning formation. We're like, all right, well, and at the time he had like this really identifiable run down, run down like red truck. And we're like, all right, go look for it in the barracks. Can't find in the barracks. So like, all right, well, you know, at least he took it and he's alive somewhere. And so we're like, hmm, go. And I, like, me and my platoon started, like, we buttheads like a couple, like, come up with an idea. We're like, hey, we grab one of our section leaders.

We're like, hey, go to the closest hotel off post. And he's like, why? We're like, go look for so-and-so's truck. He's like, I hate where I know where this is going. Sure enough. Hit not even 10 minutes later. I get a text, a picture on my phone. Like, he's here.

And we're like, is he with a 16-year-old? I think she, I don't think she was, I think she's a little older than that. That's good. better. Better, yeah. I'm still going to guess not the magic number. Not the magic number. Yeah. But, you know, it is what it is. And that's when it becomes your problem.

And that's when it became my problem. I think she's the magic number now. It's been a few years. That's good. You know, and I hope they are just so, so happy and unemployed together because we got him out of the army too. And we didn't even, like, we didn't even arrest him. We're like, you know, just come back, please. please just come back we really don't want to do the paperwork to arrest you

we know where you are like you're right here we're outside of your door please just come back he pulled the my buddy couldn't get out on the thing so he decided he was going to try the statutory thing you know there's many paths up the one mountain

as some people say we had we had one guy this was like my first week as a platoon leader too um so he we're we're four deployed to Romania at the time and this dude's like I'm gonna myself blah blah and that you know if it's

peacetime no one's shooting at us really yeah just watch go home and so he goes home and then he's he he sends these snapchats to the buddy his buddies and the company of him holding a machete in front of his wife's or his mother-in-law's house where his wife was staying because he he he thought that she was cheating on him which is valid valid Jody happens and um which ped of Which part's valid? Yeah. Well, the,

the, the idea that she might potentially be fooling around. Like, valid response? No,

no, I'm not. The machete took valid. We all been there. Yeah. Some, some,

some, putting that out on Snapchat. Just some quick selfies real fast. Yeah, so he sends those snaps to his buddies and the company.

He might murder my wife later. Well, Hey, you up? We're getting to that part. Oh, no. Don't work.

And so, I'm worried. So he, he, he, sends a Snapchat with like like this like the bitch gets it tonight

we're like oh fuck so he goes in he goes into his mother-in-law's house you guys are all taking bets yeah well and so he then yeah like oh dude he's gonna fucking do it this is a group chat where you're not

you're not helping yeah and and so he then attempts to murder both individuals fails both both people are alive. I won't say well, but they're alive today. Um, naturally he gets caught and all that other stuff. So, and then naturally we have to kick him out of the platoon. And like, officially, we said it was because, um, you know, if you try to murder your wife, you probably shouldn't

be in the army with us. But the unofficial reasoning was, uh, if you as an infantryman can't kill two unarmed civilians with a machete, how on earth are you, are we expecting you to kill people who are trying to kill us? Because your, your services will no longer be required. wire in this platoon. Both remarkably fair reasons. Yeah. So, but after we had the two guys go AWOL, we like unofficially named our platoon the runaways.

And then like we had this big platoon flag because we were the misfits. That was our thing. And underneath the big flag in my office, there was like a second smaller sign that's the runaways and it's like without leave, without fear. That's funny. Yeah. Holy shit. I have, man, I've had some shit back stories.

That trumps a lot of them. that is wild we had um have i told the private maybe bleep the dude that went awall then got brought back a month later himself no like same thing got cat he got captured got caught he ran away to like another state they got him at i want to say an airport they brought him back and then it was like hey we're just going to kick home boy out and we'll start that whole process so watch if they do that because he went that route I'm going to off myself you have to do an hourly check-in 24 hours 24 yep oh no dear god like and a lot of times they'll make you sleep next to like the so like every barracks has like a cq desk it's like literally a desk with a person at 24-7 no all even on like Christmas and everything a lot of times they'll move their bed there like literally in the middle of a hallway just some dude's bed and that's where he has to sleep because otherwise like he has to like he has to like he has to like like get up every hour in the middle of the night and like be at this desk, be like, I'm still alive and go back to his room. It's the most of dude. It is annoying because now your entire team squad platoon have to worry about this dude because they even made a joke about that.

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favorite desires just intercode unsub at checkout that's unsub you in subb get your donut hole the day yeah and no one takes watch well like you're gonna bully the fuck out a lot of the times the second that gets that flag rises look oh i'm gonna do this you're like you piece of shit okay now because it's it's super abused right yeah yes and basic training we had probably four it's not because they're it's because they're faking being most of the time to clarify that it's not hey I'm actually feeling bad to press any of this it's like I want a quick way out of the army this is how I'm going to get out of the army yeah and then they will pull that card and then if basic training you would have four extra people on guard duty so firewatch instead of two people without rotation now you have six people on firewatch four people that have to watch the dude to make sure he's not doing anything and then two people people so now you get less sleep every night in your experience back of the envelope math here just ballpark and what what do you think the ratio is of actually people to

shit bags was i mean it depends like in basic training like you're saying it's going to be a lot higher like in my unit i think i can honestly say because like we had like a few like actual attempts where it's like you wake up to a phone call you like oh fuck like never saw that coming in a million years and then it's like the only that was i can honestly say it was like my only one. I'm sure some people have higher lower numbers depending on like where you're at, but like, at least in my, in my personal experience, the, the ratios favored like actually helping the dudes. Because like, if someone's faking it in that situation, like, it's so unbelievably obvious. And that's why like where people are harsh on them. Because it's not like,

oh, you know, maybe it's maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Because like we had when we had a guy that actually did do like a 10%, everyone was violent. volunteering to like help him out because like oh fuck like this guy's like really like he got in some he got in some personal trouble he didn't see a way out you know all that stuff and like everyone was like moving mountains to like help him out but and then it's like when it's this kid who everyone knows is just fucking trying to get out of the army as fast as they can like then it's just wreck him and make his life kicking the cots in the middle of the night yeah literally you up you're okay you're good you're good because it is night and day you know when somebody's

actually going to do it versus yeah that and we will help oh shit like homeboys going through a bad one it's not like i'm running away and then you get back it's like well i'm on this watch like chances are it's happening while they're enlisted or uh the few we had we didn't see coming in then afterwards we never seen any of my buddies that did it afterwards it was like get a call get a text like hey this just happening like what the fuck what the fuck happened those dudes make it like as transparent like i'm gonna do this boo-hoo that fuck you so basic out of the four dudes it was all each time it was just a

not even a cry for help it was just I want to get out of the military yeah out of anybody we know I don't think I don't think there was ever any of us would have ever said oh yeah it's gonna be that guy yeah oh yeah exactly never is yeah no I can't think of a single one never literally I do not have a single one

of my friends that I was like oh I seen that coming it was always like what the fuck holy shit what happened okay let's play catch up to talk to the family. Well, I just talked to him a couple months ago. And the only sign is the lack of communication starts happening. They go quiet. They'll start giving stuff away. It's like, hey, here's this. Hey, I want to take care of you. And then they just pull into this little dark hole, stop communicating and then isolate themselves. And then, oh, shit, that's what happened. That's why the statement, check on your homies is always going to say. This might be your, you know,

reality check maybe it's time to check up on on that guy you're thinking of yeah never hurts just just talk just be like hey what's up how you doing get that conversation going just get a normal conversation going a lot of the time that's all i take and if they're if they're like oh man actually having a bad day or i'm having x y and z reach out just like hey tell me about it a lot of time communication goes really far it lets them open up that second part's pretty important too don't just check on your homies like honestly man things aren't going really well i'm having this issue like damn that sucks merry christmas yeah that's crazy that's crazy man anyway have a good good birthday yeah don't do that but but yeah and it makes a huge difference if if they actually

open up talk to them reach out have an open conversation with them see what's going on it's gonna it might take an hour, it may take two hours, but at the end of the day, they will feel way better because now they're sharing that load, that backpack, that rucksack, and it's a lighter load, so then they can face that next day. And it's super helpful. But you're in the middle of the story, sorry, with the guy. Now I'm like, maybe this story, because home boy, this is one of the start ones. Now I'm like, we might just not do the story because we'll do the story on a different day. On a lighter note, how are things doing now? Good. I got out of the military back in May of 2024 and then. Oh, out pretty recent then. Yeah, yeah. And I, at the time, I actually,

so for people that don't know more of my backstory, I worked with Chris Capi at Task and Purpose for probably like four years before I actually got out of the military. So I was like full active duty and working this kind of like side gig hustle because I liked it I liked working with Chris I liked the team they had there and I liked what they were doing so capy big uh big enemy of the channel yeah we're not really big fans of him I will I will do whatever you say I'm against him now we've had him on before he's a cool yeah no I love that guy to death um shout out to him but yeah and so kind of and I won't get into too many specifics so that people that are still working at said companies don't get in trouble. But basically there was a plan to make

like a second task and purpose where it's like, oh, and this was like right before I got out of the military. And they're like, oh, you know, we did such a great job with task and purpose and putting Chris up there and like all this beautiful stuff was happening. And it's like, we could do that again with another company that's like a web military news base thing. And so they're like, oh, Justin, you have been working for this for a while and you've been on camera before. You are a good fit. I'm like, all right, great. And so we get all the stuff signed. Like, I start working on this new channel idea in like March of 2024.

So like a couple months before I get out just to like land on my feet and like sign a contract for it. And that was going to start the day I got out of the army. So like I was getting out of the army May 26, 2024. My contract started May 27th, 2024. And then maybe like a month or three weeks before I'm out. And like at this point, this is my plan. like I'm I don't I don't have a school that I'm going back to I don't have like you know anything else I'm like I already have a job of everything's going to be great had a house that I was moving to

and all these plans and then like three weeks before that I get an email from or a text from one of them I know why both of you were laughing by the way yeah and they're like it's all you laughing and I started laughing and they're like hey um someone went someone else went behind everyone's back and hired someone else for this role I'm like, oh, no worries. Awesome. And so at that point, I'm just kind of like scrambling. I don't know what I'm going to do.

Like, it's too late to like enroll in a school. I'm like, all right, look, I'm going to give myself a year from when I get out of the army and just try to make YouTube stuff work. Like, and if it doesn't work, I gave it my all, I gave it a year. I feel like that's a good enough time to where if I don't get at least a little moments I'm going. Like, I've tried. And like, I have enough savings to where like if I really, need to i can just like coast for a little bit and like you know if i make eight dollars a day on

youtube and like that's my grocery you know thing for the day and and so i just kind of started that and like i was my and then you know the the original company's like oh we'll try to find a spot for you we'll try to figure something else out we'd still love you to be on the team blah blah i'm like all right yeah sure sure thing uh that obviously didn't happen and um isn't it remarkable how companies like that sometimes will just turn into entrepreneurship factories oh yeah it's it's crazy how they're just like it's almost like they're doing it on purpose i don't know it's it's slightly remarkable at how good they are doing that and there's plenty of them too it's it's great like i'm not even just thinking of one particular company i'm thinking of one particular company i think eli's thinking of one particular

company but like there's in the gun industry you see it a lot too there's there's like i'll even i'll never thought about it's like entrepreneur Newer factories. Yeah. Fuck you. Go be successful. You're like, I... In the gun industry, it was Ruger.

So many people that I know used to work at Ruger and they just like, they were really good at their job and they were just like, this company wants to run itself into the ground, I'm going to take my talents elsewhere and then start a multi-million dollar company. And like so many people have that same story with that same company. SIG is another one. Interesting. Dude, it's wild watching. I mean, yep.

But at this point, task and purpose has you, Kappi, like. A lot of people have... And his whole team, too. Because, like, when... Because he talked to me about it, like, a long time ago. He was like, hey, I don't think I'm going to... There's like a 50% chance I'm going to leave. I'm like, dude, just fucking do it.

Like, I'll do... I'll work with you, whatever you got next going on. Why 50? Make it 100. Yeah. And, uh... But yeah, so, like, I had just, um... I was just kind of like tired of waiting around for someone to be like... I was still kind of an army mindset of like,

oh, someone's going to come out of the left field and tell me what to do. And then I realized that call, like, after a couple months, like, oh, that film call's not coming. And so then I was like, you know what? Like, I might as well just do all this on my own. Like, I know how to do it. I know how to write for an audience. And like, honestly, like, the things I started putting out was just stuff that I thought was interesting that didn't really fit into, like, what Chris Cappy was doing or like the other channel that I was working for was doing. Because I feel like there's like just a lot of just like weird random military information out there that like doesn't quite fit into like you know the current news cycle or

something so like one of the first things i wanted to do was like hey you know like the military has an entire roster of fake countries that we use with like these huge in-depth backstories that you know it's like this huge world building thing it's all available for everyone to look at it's like super in-depth and complex and like i've even like recently interviewed some of the people who like built it and like they go even into more even more depth the army built its own RPG, like MMO. Yeah. Like, no, like it, like, they're, well, you joke, but they're like actual

like, no, I know, top RPG games. Oh, wait, like, yeah, yeah, like, it's a, it's a thing. What? It's a thing. Like, the military legit has, like, tabletop games that are meant for, like, wargaming certain, yeah. Like, and you play as, you play as like, you know, these fake countries, like, you know,

Donovia's is not Russia It's like super risk But like more boring It's called Warhammer It's like it's kind of It's kind of boring It's Warhammer 40K But boring

I wish it was nearly as cool as Warhammer But it's still like interesting Because like you know you'll have to do like these battles But then like you'll get to like a battle Point and then you have to like And it's like normal like dice and stuff You have to throw but also like a lot of the times Like you can interject and be like

All right we're going to do like a full Operations planning around this battle right here and so then everyone like stops playing and you go do like a full actual planning scenario it's like a breakout table like yeah like full on like all right we're going into a 12 hour planning cycle like let's go

was it likes of civilization which you were talking like a little that meets risk meets almost like it's just like super in depth it's like if you wanted to play risk and you like go into a battle and it's like okay now instead of like you know three army people

versus four it's like okay they have this mechanized battalion versus our mechanized battalion. It's like, all right, and this is, we have arbitrarily decided that this battle is going to take place on this map that we pulled from, you know, because all this stuff is built in. It's called the, it's called the, uh, the decisive action training environment. That's the name of like this whole fake world that they've built out. And so like, you can get one letter from dice. I know. Wait.

No. No. More than cut that. That was so bad. Brandon's new ad I can't I can't spell God damn

I can miss I can miss say date like it's called dace Brandon Herrera 2025 I was thinking the T

god damn it I'm gone fucking into the camera it's like my brain caught up a second later I'm like wait a minute how have I never heard

of this game by that's why I didn't go to West Point yeah yeah so like when I played it it was like they had we had just like these 3D printed

printed pieces and like these zip lock back it's like me and Cody like me and Cody looking at you know I fuck with this right it's it's pretty cool

and like what you're supposed to do is like and I can say this before we cut back but like yeah like you're supposed to like just pull like all this information from like it's like okay I want to do a battle

against you know the fake Russians and you're fighting actually Russian equipment people So you go into the date and it's like, all right, you have this fake battle group and it's like meant like this and it fights like this and it has like full, like if you want to get like super vulgar autistic with it, you can be like all this crazy stuff. And it's built on like actual. Dude, no, like for real, just hear me out for a second. This? Because we'd play this game, right?

Oh, yeah. This sounds like something you play. But then you make it a social game aspect where it's also the negotiations. That's why commander and stuff like that does good because you're aligning and you're teaming up. up to take somebody else out or like this with that social element would do really yeah good well and the the fun part like with the fun part like with that social element is that like what i would always play it would be like uh i forget what they call it but like you're basically like the referee essentially and like the the whole game is kind of run by the american side but like the referee is

going to be like they go through like a full plan right and they lift out the plan and that's the not fun part because that's like 12 hours of fucking... Yeah, you're the dungeon master. Yeah. But like... It's the UN. Like, I'd have a guy be like, oh, our, you know, this unit destroys this unit on this objective. I'm like, that weapon system cannot destroy that unit.

Like, you're, you're shooting, you know, a saw round at a fucking T-72. And they're like, well, it does something to it? I'm like, no, it doesn't do. Like... Yeah, it alerts them to your position. Yeah, it draws a line straight from your face to their gun barrel. It works great. Brandon, do you need not a...

One more time, you got this, buddy. Brandon, can you... Brandon, do you like... Almost there, bud. Brandon, where do you store your firearms? All over my house in every fucking crepus. Well, do I have the product for you, Nick Schoom? Here, hand it to me, Brandon, so I can show you.

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I didn't actually know that part until a couple months ago. That is actually really cool. You put a little lock through there. Exactly. When you check in a pistol or any gun, if there's a hole that a lock can go through on whatever you're checking your gun in, you have to put a lock through that. This has one hole, so you just need one lock easily accessible

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But yeah, and so, yeah, there's, like, this whole world that, like, they built upon it. And, like, there's, like, weird reasons as to, like, why things exist. So, like, their version of Korea is called Torbia. And there's, there's North and South Torbia. And, but the thing is, it sounds like pig Latin kind of, like, well, it's not Korea technically. Yeah, well, and the funny thing is, is that, like, the, normally, like, Donovia in this where it's, like, Russia is, like, it is Russia. And like Irania is not Iran, it's Irania, but it is Iran. It's at the same place.

Yeah. But like with with Korea, at the time, they weren't really focused on Korea. And they just needed a place where they had a lot of like satellite imagery of. So it's like some random island in the Philippines. And so it's like kind of funny to think about like, I like to think about like tropical Kim Jong-un, you know? Like that's like just like him like in flip flops or something. A specific skin where he's like still like scary and doing like all the normal stuff. he's just like in flip-flops and like a whole communist dictator skin just dropped yeah i think

that'd be awesome how the fuck i know like this is something you do like clean work on this this if we can do it in a social element with risk where you just get to play with six people each person has a country and then you're talking out to partner or trade parts i don't know if it'd do good that just sounds like a lot of fun yeah i think if you simplified like the planning part and like just made it like a simple like rock paper scissors things where it's like infantry kills this unit that unit kills tanks tanks kill infantry just like keeping it simple and like strategizing that you could like or like add some like random thing and like oh your unit unexpectedly through track and now you instead of moving five you move four or something like that it do be like that i've been

there this this gun is pretty pretty gay but i'm not going to lie it's it's just it's neat i don't know. So I'm trying to acquire right now a corner shot, which as we just talked about a little bit while we were on break, I think it's Israeli. And it's just, it's like a carbine that folds 90 degrees around a corner. So you can look and shoot around a corner. At the end, it's like a full auto glock. That's just at the very end of it. Yeah. I was going to say the recoil has got to be gnarly because I've never shot one. I've never even seen one in person. But it's got to just twist your fucking grip. that's what does it is it right or what which way does it in both probably do both yeah it was like a little handle that you like do this because it's straight until you can you know same crooked around well this way you figure it brace because when you're shooting this way it's this way your hands here position you're more stocked but if it's shooting you know what I'm saying yeah that would be a wild I assume it varies dramatically based on the corner you're trying to shoot

around. Yeah, but I'm still like if you're, I'm going to 90 degrees this way. I'm like, huh. Bring up the clip of Angelina Jolie swinging that shit around in a pharmacy and the movie wanted. Thank you. I've never seen that movie all the way through. A lot of slow motion headshots in that one.

Morgan Freeman getting domed in the forehead, spoiler. Yeah, I saw that bit. Movie's only 20 years old now. No, we can't. I like they did the test. Like, this doesn't work, by the way. Like, no fucking shit. Physics, I'm not going to be like, kill you.

Oh, he's dead. Like, you might be, I don't know. I don't even know if you could do that with something as slow moving as like a bad Airsoft gun. When you pull it, it's just going to go straight, whatever. It leaves that barrel. It's like, I'm going out now. The barrel's going straight, yeah.

Yeah. I think Mythbusters did. They had a machine that, like, whipped the gun. And guess what the bullet did? fucking way straight wherever it left. Yeah, but they can control their adrenaline in the movie. Oh, super speed. Is that really?

Yeah. That's why they're all super assassins. They can control their adrenaline, do like all this crazy shit, high speed stuff. I feel like there's a doctor out there that is feeling the same way now that I feel when I'm watching bad gun playing movies where they're just like, that's not going.

You can't do it. They, Brandon, they do like a room that is a 360 and he just curves at hard enough the bullet goes. Carcker did it. Yeah, but he had a barrel. He used PVC pipe, yeah. That was great.

That was actually, I think, the craziest demo ranch video, RIP, four went out for my homie character. He's still alive. He's doing well, but channel's dead. The, the PVC shot that he did, where he just had like twos, where he's like, can I shoot a bullet into

pipe and just kept bending it crazier and crazier directions. He did like loop-de-loops, all sorts of shit and it actually worked. It is the most Looney Tunes as shit I have ever seen. I would have never expected that to work in real life. What rounds did he used to do that?

I think at one point he even used 50. But like he was using like pistol rounds and stuff like that in the beginning. I don't know how the 50 Cal worked out. I just know he tried it. It wasn't in the end. It was just shooting shrapnel out because the bullet was breaking apart so bad. That tracks. It was cool. we were in that video together right

I was not I didn't see it in person okay yeah it was wacky a couple of the bullets just shot right past the little bend in the barrel this PVC pipe it's crazy that PVC pipe actually made the bullet right around that that's wild let's do weird shit man

yeah my monkey brain tells me that shouldn't work same like instant it would travel like PVC and then go I mean they had like a 90 degree one didn't they yeah no he was doing he did like i think a complete loop at one point or some shit like that like i i'm probably horribly misquoting this it was a while ago but it was some shit that i would have bet i would have bet my net worth was never going to work yeah you had to figure it oh it's

just going to punch through yeah just go through it just traveled down it and then you hear tink and demos face when it actually did tink he was like stood up from behind whatever armored plate He was bunnies like, oh, that fucking work. What the hell? I would love to have ballistic high speed out just to see what the condition of that bullet was by the time it got out. Oh, yeah.

I didn't even think of that. Just keyholeing of nothing else. Oh, God. I ass over teacups, for sure. Brandon just got a new Pupu. Are we allowed to discuss that? And then how happy that makes Cody? Oh, yeah, yeah.

No, we can talk about that. I just got motherfucking MP7. Hell yeah. Not a fake one. No, not like a Tommy-built clone or anything, a real like factory HK MP7. And Cody

didn't know I was fucking bidding on it. No, man. It's promoting it to his stream the entire week like, look, there's an MP7 for sale. Look at how high it's going to get. Yeah, I'm sitting there refreshing the website the entire time. I'm like, man, who is bidding on this? I was bidding on this. Two weeks after bidding, he calls

me and he's like, oh, go to the MP7. I didn't even know your ass was betting on the MP7. It was the last day, like two hours from it. I'm like, it's a 20 grand right now. Like, I might get it. You're like, wait, you were bidding on that? Brandon's like, I hope no one's watching this. Cody's like, here, here, here, 26, swing out 26, 27, 27, 28.

It's like, no, no, why is this going up so fast? I was showing that to several thousand people a day for two weeks. I didn't know it was you bidding the eyes on it. Thanks, bud. That was expensive. No, those guys, uh, shout out to them. Uh, they really, they really helped me out. You got, you, you got a suppressor.

Yeah, no, they, they definitely hook me up. Like, they, they help me out a lot. The company that I, I bought them from, uh, or excuse me, the company I bought it from out of Dallas. Uh, was super fucking cool. They got me a suppressor at cost and like a thousand rounds of 4.6. So we get to fuck around with that as soon as it comes in. That one's super dope. Like Cody's gonna be.

Are you gonna let Cody shoot it first? you're going to break you down who's christening it that's well like uh we'll do it like ghost with patrick suasy just both i'll hold the gun he pulls the trigger please do even as a real why's cody shirtless both of us screw the suppressor on together yeah literally like the play scene the fucking ghost guiding your hands screwing it all we are not beating the allegations i really like his video that one I how quiet are those because those are still supersonic grounds like oh they're they're hauling ass yeah I've I've shot one before suppressed and it was I mean

it was like yeah it was supersonic but it was still like pretty quiet like zero recoil fun of shit yeah they're great fucking fan his favorite weapon yeah no that's cool I shot a full lot of Iraq veterans shoot 2017 I think someone had one let me go through a magazine they're so fucking cool. Yeah. We met that, the big Delta guy at Matt's,

remember he had 10 million. Were you there when he had 10 million subscribers? Or was a birthday or son? It was a party at Carriker's place. And there was this giant bearded man there. And he's like, oh,

I know what he does and got to talk to him. And you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Back in the mountain. Yeah, big motherfucker. And he was like, yeah, I took one of those into war every once in a while.

Man, those were really well on people's heads. They're super cool. It's like, oh, that's neat. His dude's like he needs three plate carriers And it's like two here One on his stomach

He is a very large man Like an MP7 in his hands It's just like a Glock to one of us And he's just yeah man They're so good at shooting people in the head He's been like no you were really good Yeah you're really good at that brother He's going in and pop heads

You both pop Yeah just The mountain The Pedro Dyscale Dude that's gonna be a dope What are you thinking on the video side of it yet I was joking around with this, I think when we were in the gym and I was telling you about it, I was, uh, I, the, the MP7 is one of the only guns that you don't even need a theme or anything for the video.

The video can just be, I have an MP7. And it's still cool because it's, it's such a coveted item. Like everybody has to have one. Dude, those rounds are expensive as fuck. I never looked at that. It's like a bucket round. It was like 5'7 then. 5-7's gotten a lot cheaper

like Fioki's gotten the price down it's like I want to say you can get 5-7 for like 70 cents a round oh that's not bad now I need to buy I like it the round itself I don't even know is it 4-6 what how does it do ballistic wise is it something like mind-blowing it's like 5-7's actually not

it's like oh cool it punches through stuff but at the 5-7 you've got to have like the black tip like the good good for it to do anything that people think 5-7 does otherwise what about four six pretty much same yeah it's 1900 feet per second it's eight or not eight excuse me it's 60 cents around right now for 4.6 mm-hmm it's really not bad it's not bad again fioke yeah the um god well i there are a couple of like the the really super like sketchy uh i forget i can't remember it's copper or uh there's there's some sort of some sort

of special projectile i'd have to go back and look i don't remember what it is up top my head, but some of that stuff is available in small quantities, certain places, but yeah, in general, I, I don't know. I'm never going to use it, use it. It's just going to be for fun. It's just to fucking have, you know? It's like the P90. I love my, like, my Sarah Code of P90, never get shot. I love that little thing, though. It's one of the most dope little rifles I have or SBRs. Just why? Because it's fucking unique as shit and not many people have it. And the weeds fucking love it. Oh, yeah. That was a little too in, attic. What kind of gun

do you, what, what? No, I don't know. We're not letting me get away with that. In front of them. Well, okay. Well, one, one thing was I had my, my, my, my personal Bradley that I was the commander of was filled to the brim with like

hentai stickers. Like every school, every, he's a gooner. It's the goon, Brad. Do you remember me telling you about when I went to Fort Hood? Oh, yeah. The, the little infantry guys came up with binders of hentai stickers and we're giving me hentai stickers and they trade those back and oh yeah yeah yeah no like you'll go you go on to fort hood and like you can go into like any military

base and there's going to be like at least three or four cars that everyone knows that are just like hentai stickered out and like yeah sure enough like my my every square inch of that inside of that bradley was like you didn't see the green paint it was just nothing but like giant anime titties everywhere it was fantastic you're like having a hard day you're You're tired, it's hot. You lean back a little bit. You're like, all right. I remember what I'm fighting for and you lean back in.

It was great. It's the inside the helmet meme. Oh, yeah, no, exactly. How we didn't get in trouble for that, I have, I have no idea. People got in trouble for a lot less than that. The Goon Squad shows up. Because I remember we did one of those, the black rifle openings or something like that where the guy came out with that bag of stickers.

Like, oh, I heard you wanted some breeder and ha-ha, and gave me him like, thanks. I mean, these were vulgar too Lots of calm Tasteful No, no, it was not tasteful What's tasteful Had you? If only I was 10 years younger

So you have What's your favorite firearm though You're a big firearm You actually just did a video about Like cyclicrate and why that doesn't get faster Yeah Right now like really well so my my thought the video i made was about like you know uh the idea came from like

you know you'll see like dudes on like video game videos and being like oh why don't we just give everyone a fucking gatling gun and let them go crazy and all this other stuff and it's like that's kind of like one of the things i like do with my my channel is like taking some of these misconceptions and like all this other stuff it's like why don't we want you know do the the the the the neal degrass Tyson like answer it with another question why don't we want everyone to have a gatling gun kind of thing um and like you know the obvious answers of like it's expensive and you know why need more bullet when few bullet do trick and bullets are heavy and cost money and hard to use sometimes and different things but logistically speaking it's a

fucking night it's a fucking i can't even it's like hard enough to get dudes to like clean their actual rifles which takes like a second grade level ability to disassemble and put back together so like I can't imagine like telling my AWOL people be like, hey, take apart this M134 for me real quick. Yeah. That needs like a college degree to know how to work. That's like one of many things and and all that stuff. But yeah, like I don't know. Like I grew up like because like when I was in the army, a lot of like my inspiration from my channel comes from like I go home and then everyone's like doesn't really get what we do. And it's like, like I remember like. I'd go home, they're like, oh, you, they teach you out of like hand-to-hand fight.

And I'm like, I mean, kind of. But like, like, like, the way, that's like always the thing I use is like, dude, if I ever had to get into a hand, unarmed hand-to-hand fight in combat, like, not only am I incredibly stupid, because I've lost my weapon. I've somehow isolated myself from everyone. And I, and I'm not smart enough to pick up a rock on the ground or call for help or something. And not only that, I have met someone of equal intelligence who has lost his weapon is not smart enough to pick a rock up off the ground or like have literally, like you could

like a dude got a kill with an MRI spoon. Like you can figure it out, you know. I mean, you saw that, that being said, you saw that gnarly body cam kill from Ukraine. Yeah. The two dudes. Yeah. Like that was fucking unfortunate. Savage.

It was hard to watch. Didn't he kill? There was a long video. Yeah, he killed more than one. So I think you might know more. That fight happened. He got tracked and he killed like two more people and then got interviewed after he killed two more people. Yeah, yeah.

I saw part of the interview. That knife fight though. That is one of the, hey, you want to know what war is like and you want to know what actual combat and how messy it is. That is the perfect example of hand-to-hand and why knives are fucking terrifying and why it's not, he only had a knife. Why did you shoot him? and if you know anything about those fucking Russian AK bayonets them motherfuckers is not sharp

that was basically a blunt instrument that they were just yeah there's no winning a knife fight there's just like various degree of losing a knife fight this is literally just a puncture implement like you're not gonna slash anybody and like it's not like a knife

like you'd carry around like it's just it's that was a brawl yeah that's probably jagged from him open up like ammo cases and random stuff and, ugh, yeah. Yeah, I forgot about that one. That was a brutal, brutal fight. Yeah.

Like, shows what war is. But, yeah, but like, you know, people be like, oh, you know, like, you guys just, like, go blasts in 24-7, all this other and stuff. Like, no, it's actually a lot more boring. It's like, we establish fire superiority. And we shoot sometimes, like, very slowly and try to be as accurate as possible. They're like, oh, that's no fun. I'm like, well, it's not about fun necessarily. It's, like, well, I would just, and you hear a lot of, like, well, I would just do this.

And you're like, well, if you did that. I hope you know how to use said bayonet five minutes later because you're out of ammo. That's the, we count on people like you doing that. Yeah. So we could do what we do. Yeah. Like, I've said it before. Mag dumping into trash is one of the few things that makes life worth living.

But if you don't have ammo to kill the person who's trying to kill you, you won't have a life to live. So it helps to, it's a balance, you know. Yes. It's a balance. I would react this way. Okay. Let's see that. Okay, you ready?

Just start shooting next. I'm like, Oh, God, what are you doing? You see all mechanics go out the window. It's like, uh, you didn't react to the way you did. It's like boxing. Yeah. We talk about that.

Everybody's got a plan until you get punched in the face. Even if you like do good on the bag or on the mitts or whatever, as soon as you start getting hit in the fucking face, things fall apart. You're like, I will definitely know how to win this. That was actually, turn around. That was actually my first class in college was boxing. that was that's not a fun thing because then you had to like run to math right after that and like half-concussed like what is this what is this i'm like i can't even see right now

like i have no idea i was just punched in the face a whole bunch so what uh what right now you're doing your um you do like modern war you cover modern war yeah yeah what's one of your favorite subjects too covered though i one of my favorite things and that i can just nerd out about forever is just like the kind of like the post-Vietnam pre-GWAT era military because there's all these like weird crazy ideas that people are throwing out and all of it is hypothetical so like none of it is actually getting any real world testing so like people will be like oh here's our hypothetical framework for how we're going to do this strategy and on that is even more like crazy hypotheticals and like all this other stuff so that's when you just get like weird like 80s

tech of like we're trying to build like robots and like with like with 80s tech and like the future like what future soldiers were in like the 80s and 90s and like all that stuff and it's like it's just super super interested to me and everything's like way cooler looking yeah obviously because not everything's painted tan and i don't know men were men back then if you want to say that but well it's also like nobody was expecting the next multi trillion dollar war to be against mud huts exactly it's like near pier so yeah so you have these like crazy like these crazy things come coming out and like on both sides too you know like you have you know the the russians coming out with like tanks that only fire thermobaric rockets and like we are we have like all these weird

variations like one-offs of experimental vehicles they're going to do all these crazy stuff and like it's like this like idealized version of war that i think is super interesting because like you know when they when they put firing ports in the side of bradley's and they're going to be like we're going to stick this port gun in there that fires 1200 rounds a minute and you can can't aim and you can only use tracers. I'm like, who is thinking of that? Like, that's insane to think about. But, like, that's what all military doctrine was built on. We're all just is like, weird ideas that dudes were coming up with in the Pentagon. Like, this seems cool. Let's try to do that. And then, like, trying to follow the logic and, like, where it goes from

there. And I think it's all, like, just super, super interesting. And that's where you get, like, you know, the Marines testing out combat skateboards. And, like, excuse me? Yeah. So if you shred or die. Look it up. So that's where. You guys know, you guys seen like T-block camo pattern? What? Okay, look at it. There's like this, it's fucking drippy as shit. T-block.

It's super drippy. But it was like this experimental urban camo. So the Marine Corps back in like the late 80s and 90s was trying to shift more towards urban-style stuff. And so they put on this huge training exercise. Yeah, it's super cool. That does look like something that would be like in an early 90s action. Yeah, yeah.

And like, but to them, they're like, that's going to work. Like, this thing is going to work. This is just Tetris camo. Yeah, it's, it's Tetris camo. But I think it's super cool. So if anyone wants to send me a jacket with that, I'll wear the shit out of that. Dude, look at that hoodie. It's dark.

That kind of fucked. Yeah. Do you some shoes? I mean, it's Tim Pool. Take that as my idea. Yeah, if you look up T-Block. Dude, looks like metal gear. It's all dudes with skateboards.

Yeah, yeah. It's, because that was, that was Operation Urban Warrior. So that's when the Marine Corps is really trying to test. out like its own like urban warfare stuff because they were trying to transition to like okay you know we're not going to be landing on this like picturesque beach on northern France or like this random jungle in the Pacific we're probably going to land into some undisclosed nation called Taiwan that has a bunch of cities on it and they call it like the urban littoral zone so it's like a city on a it's a coastal city that's probably we're going to be

operating so we probably need to revamp how we're going to look at urban operations. And this is also the Marine Corps specifically. This is Marine Corps specifically. Just throwing it out there, the one branch of the military that can be activated by the president to an urban area in the United States. Correct. And so, well, interesting. So what they did was they tried, I forget the actual city, but there was one city where they were, there was like an actual like normal city. It wasn't like a training area where they're like, we're going to test this out. And that initial city got turned them down. So they ended up going to this other city. I want say it was like Seattle or Portland because someone correct me if I'm wrong but it was one of those like

super like you know the last place you'd expect military days to be running around in and like there were all these like crazy protests and that's where like that's like if you look up like really early footage of like the funny thing is if you want to because I was trying to make a video on on urban warriors specifically I'm like that's a cool topic it's got some cool visual things on it all the info comes from Alex Jones because he was like covering it and be like they're training to take away all our citizens and stuff and it's like So, like, the globalist, they've seized the skateboards. Exactly.

But, yeah, like, they were testing on, like, skateboards and shit like that. So, but if Alex Jones wants to, or his team wants to get with me to give me any B-roll footage they didn't use, so I could make that video, I'd be very interested. Well, you guys are neighbors. You're both in, I don't know if I should say that. Never mind. Oh, no, Austin. That's fine. The People's Republic of Austin.

Yeah, that's where I live. Yeah. God bless you. I like it there. It's cool, you know. Good, good, uh, small doses. Good music scene. I like it in small.

all doses. It's got it's got his nice parts. I love San Antonio. I live here for a reason. It's a lot cheaper here for sure. So they ran this in a city, like a natural urban city. Yeah, yeah. And then what was the objectives? They were training on like how to clear like skyscrapers with skateboarders. Like that's how they would get to like from so like in an urban settings like to get from like point A to point B like safe this way you can do it is do it really fast and so it's like yeah I can see some indies happening

oh I'm sure they were there's a reason that we saw it for that training exercise and never again yeah like you had a pebble yeah you're in a more torn city there's little rocks everywhere yeah you just imagine just like a dude with an AK like sitting in an ambush and you see like

an unmanned skateboard just across this guy like damn it gets up tries to run away also hitting your objective you like all pull up you like skirt. Yeah, like it's just so gay. The reaction of that does not

look cool. Like the cool kids in like a Disney Channel movie from the, they're like, oh, they all go like that. It's also fucking hard to learn how to skateboard. I think they like, what they did was they pooled all the kids who could skateboard. Like, can you skateboard? Yes. All right, you're

fucking tactical skateboard. We need you. Yeah, your country needs you. I just, I, I, I, I have love the idea of instead of trying to, this is like as military as it gets, I guess, but instead of trying to fit in an urban environment, like, you know, be somebody who would be in an urban environment, they were like, we're going to blend in with the buildings. Yeah, I never, like, why wouldn't they just make it like a fucking denim top with a name tape? Because T-block is too cool. Yeah, it's so cool. It's so cool. They cut off sleeves and the fucking fingerless gloves,

like a mesh somewhere but like you can like you can like still buy like the the original toss but they're like hundreds of dollars now and stuff like that but because like obviously the dudes who wore them one time like what fuck am I going to do with this like just gonna sell it and they're probably kicking themselves now for that but they need money for a date they need money for a date or to get an editor for their rat video in Los Angeles Americana Pipeline needs to find an old warehouse with just a couple boxes of those they do and when I go up there to talk to him I'm going to be like I need this right now. I need

a jacket and pants and then I can terrorize Austin even more than I do now. Logan from America on a pipe dream knows that I love fucking surplus watches and shit. Oh yeah, like the Soviet watches they have. I love the Soviet watches. I've got a huge

collection of them. They cost next to nothing for what they are. Yeah. But all their military issue watches and shit, I fucking I dig it. So every time you find something fucking weird, like a lufa watch or something like that, he detect me he's like hey you want this one oh damn i'd be sick Logan please hit me up I know we haven't met yet in person but do something for me all those boys are good people yeah

oh yeah I'm super excited because we're gonna be doing like a like a cool video on like how does stuff like end up on the surplus market like why can I buy a jet on Facebook marketplace and like I genuinely have no fucking idea why I'm allowed like I'm glad I can damn right I should be legally allowed to buy a jet on Facebook marketplace but why that where does it come from that stuff's always super interesting to me because like Jared Isickman He was the guy who was up for the domination for NASA under the Trump administration. But we were out doing some stuff with him in Bozeman. And he has, to my understanding, the only civilian-owned MiG-29 in the country, possibly the world.

He's doing fine. Oh, you know, he's doing that. He started up, I think his, I might be butchering his life story, but I think he founded a payment software, like an internet payment, like B-to-B kind of thing. Yeah. Oh, D-O-D? No, B-to-B kind of thing. I think or fine. I could be wrong on that. It might be B-A-C, but he started it when he was 16. Damn.

And then sold it for, I don't know, billions. Yeah, you do anything where everyone has to you, D-D-C, whatever it is. Every transaction kicks back to you at that age. You got to go to college. Do I, Dad? How do you like your fucking house, Dad? That's what I thought. Shut the fuck up.

Do you have eight digits in the bank, Dad? I'm like, you know what, son? You're right. We're good to go. I love it because he's just like an aviation nerd now. It just has a whole hangar full of jets. And it's just like, that's just what he loves to do. Just that's the dream.

It's how people probably think looking, like walking into my shop. But to me, those are two radically different. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's completely different. It's like running those jets for like a full day is my net worth. Like, you probably like machine half the parts. if it's an old mig like that. Oh,

like just custom everything. Then you get like the, the mig of the easiest issue. It's like if we replace everything, is it still the same Meg 29? Yes, that's the normal questions

we ask ourselves. That's fine. That's what keeps you up at night. Like, that's stupid meme. Like, I'm literally the guy in the photo. It's like,

where can I find a ship like this? It's literally, I'm right here. Ew. At one point did I stop being the ship in the photo? What was the essential essence of them? What is, the essence of the make 29 you know

that's the question that he has to answer now leave your answer down in the comments riveting I'm confused I'm confused I want to type of the comments right now I'm like I don't know what the fuck they're talking about what is essence riveting philosophy tied to

Soviet aircraft so what is your next big project you're working on so next big thing I'm looking at is the Army in the military as a whole are looking at

building basically a drone wall in Europe. And if they're telling me this, it can't be classified. So if I get picked up by people in black SUVs before we finish this episode, I said too much. But anyway, this was

sent to me on my Gmail, so it can't be that crazy. But basically, they're wanting to, them and Andrew are basically teaming up to build a wall of drones across the Russian border because the idea is that, you know, the deterrence factor isn't going to be enough. Like, if they really, really want to go and invade the Baltics, for example, it's

mostly centered around the Baltics. If they really want to, you know, if Latvia's really looking really good that year, no matter how many conscripts they put on, on the corner with an MG3, like, it's not going to be enough. like they're just going to tank those casualties and like just keep going along and set up shop after they take you know 50 miles or whatever and so they're like well if we can't keep we can't deter them from doing that we can at least try to blow up every fucking thing that they send over with drones essentially um so it's going to be like this big mesh network of like sensors and like drones just ready to auto deploy the second anything gets triggered in conjunction with like team stuff but um I'm going to be going to be going to out there later this year to kind of poke around and see what they're doing.

I mean, that's, I don't think that's super classified because they, I mean, even recently they did that public announcement from SACDF that they're focusing more on like the drone drone capabilities of the United States and they're where they made it from durable to expendable. So, and if

anyone was confused and like what the difference between durable and expendable is, it's basically just like and I only know this because like this was like my job, one of my jobs in the army was like, that basically just means that like a company commander can be like I want if I have this extra money or it's like I want to put more money to this and like yeah we might have like less extra sleeping bags but I want my executive officer to order like 50 drones and so basically taking it away from like this higher up you know it's going to be like hyper serialized we have to lay it out and do all this crazy weird there's a the amount of paperwork like it would be easier to take a live grenade with the the pin that's already pulled on as your carry on at a plane to get certain gear in the military. And so basically what this is is just like slashing all of that and being like, look, you can buy it now. It doesn't matter if it breaks or doing anything like that. We can still fix it. We can have

the facilities to do that. But like, you know, if private so-and-so is trying it, testing it out and like really seeing what it can do. And he breaks it because he's pushing its limits. Well, you know, it's just going to be like a, oh, you know, we hit the limit of that. We know we can't do that. Or we need to train that more. Not like this. Oh, we're going to do this. some big investigation and all this other stuff and i think they were eight how much did butler say they were they're like 18 grand it was a lot more than a dj i yeah it was it wasn't too bad though at that individual level compared to what we usually spend on equipment but they were both here when butler and um Alex yeah and they were going over that because Alex I think heads that whole

I think he's the army CTO yeah chief technology officer if I'm mistaken yeah so they were going over it's like yeah here's the new drones we're going to be rolling out this is the cost compared to what it used to be yeah now we can train people up really fast and then this is way easier to use yeah no i mean i remember when i was in like to get a to use a drone like we had drones they were pieces of shit and they cost like 50 000 and they had like a you can get like a 240 p resolution video from like 50 feet up off the air and it had a five second battery and like we had to have like a specialist person to fly it and now we can just

throw those out and like do all the crazy manmade horror things and all that stuff but you gotta love when the private sector's kicking your ass for a tenth the cost oh yeah like it's but it's it's super interesting and like I'm both scared and interested to see like where that goes

because like that was like right when I was getting in like I remember like back in 2015-16 like they the army was like using us like cadets as guinea pigs for like drone guns so we had a dude with like a weird looking it was like a plastic air body with all these weird antennas coming out and they had a big backpack and he would like shoot little you know laser beams at drones and stuff and jam them or whatever and then and then we I think that one of the biggest things that held this country back in terms

like military drones was the fact that DJI was like the drone company and they're Chinese so I remember we were working on this thing with like using drone for like mapping like we're going to do this thing where we send a drone forward it's going to get like a 3d scan of an area and then you can run like line of sight analysis on it like okay if i put a guy with a dragon off or a pkm in this bell tower what can he see from there based on like oh there's a bush here so you can get that level of detail down like oh if we if we hide behind this bush you won't be able to see us yeah or that kind of thing we even had like ones where like we could take the most it would give us like three options like the fastest way to get somewhere the

safest way to get somewhere and then the most caloricly efficient way to get somewhere. So like the flattest way to get there. So you're the least amount of tired when you actually arrive. Like that's crazy, right? It makes sense though. Like, like, you know, how many times like you roll up somewhere like to an objection you're like, I'm fucking smoked already? Bro, all the time.

Yeah. And so like the goal of this is to be like, all right, well, now there's some dudes have some more energy so they can run between buildings a little faster, you know? It's safe fast and you're not fucking climbing over walls and you know sorts of shit. Or like, you know, just taking a hill that you don't. really need to or something like that we've never done that hamburger hill ever in no never the entirety of the u.s never i've never gone up the hill in my entire life i've somehow managed to only go down it's been it's been a beautiful life i just don't understand how it's so expensive

for the united there has to be something more to it just because i mean the brother trust me i understand how the military industrial complex works on on that level but it's it's fucking plastic that I know there's hobbyists in the United States that go to, like, Radio Shack or whatever the equivalent is, get the fucking motors, they'll print everything else. I was like, if they can do that for $200 fucking, why are we, why does it cost us $18,000 a unit? Yeah. There has to be some extra sauce behind it. The big struggle right now is like, is getting it to do one, everything we wanted to do and in a contested environment. So like, yeah, I can get a DJI strap, you know, with a 4K camera with thermals on.

it and it can drop mortars for like five grand but the second that like someone puts up like a five hundred dollar antenna it just jams everything entirely and so like it's it's it's two things right now that are making it like that i the u.s is struggling to to get to it's making it work in like GPS denied environments because GPS is super super easy to jam like it's the easiest thing to jam on earth and um and then being able to make it work in like network jammed areas so like okay I need to go scan this area well it's jammed like well now what do I do so that's like a whole thing and that involves like a lot of AI and stuff and like AI super fucking expensive right now so that's probably one of the most expensive places because like you

need it to be like okay I'm jammed but earlier some guy told me that I need to fly here and look for this certain thing and like yeah you can tell it to like fly like to this hilltop and it'll be able to like go to that hilltop but like what if the bad guys aren't on that hilltop and you're looking for the bad guys so now it's got to make that decision that an operator would make like, oh, maybe I'm going to look over here in this divot where there's like a hidey hole because they probably heard me coming or like, ooh, maybe they're on this road. Is there any dust on the road? Oh, there's dust on the road. They went that way. They're going that way. This is getting a little sky net. It gets very sky net. Also, terrifying. That kind of war, we've said it multiple times. I could not go into that. Oh, dude. Even that being a friendly drone, I'm like, man, I'm a little brown for this. No, they're doing like some crate, like the big thing. right now they're trying to do with like across the board not just with drones but it's like drones are awesome but at the end of the day they're they're just another sensor right and commanders on the ground right now have a thousand sensors and you know it could be the thermals on

this one guy's gun it could be you know the the communications guys on a hilltop that are like intercepting communications and all this other stuff so and that's all information that that commander think like a company commander like a hundred something dudes has to like compile in his brain while he's doing a million other things while actively like trying to fight for his life like you know um and so like what they're wanting to do like AI now is it makes decisions for the commander so it's like it's like a chess bot yeah yeah so like not only is it like it's it's not just a camera right it's a camera that's picking up oh there's two tanks okay were we expecting there to be tanks there yes or no okay well let me get a little closer oh this is actually

actually like a T90 and not a T72. So if it's T90 and not a T72, what does that mean? Oh, let's kind of put some of the pieces together and then, you know, formulate some kind of like useful bit of information rather than just like a raw video feed and then give that to the commander. And then be like, hey, you can do these three options. Like I can call an artillery for you right now. I can do this or I can, I can signal for this infantry to platoon that's nearest by and they report that still have some javelin ammo that try to go stop them or so it's like this is what it is what

it's weak to here are assets you have in the area that have shit that this is weak to yeah it's it's it's basically like the tutorial of like a real-time strategy game like that's what they're trying to turn it into right where it's just like oh by the way these guys that you have here they the t-seventy is vulnerable to the american javelin and like this squad is glowing yeah and there's like a little way but like no shit like there's an actual waypoint and then you can tell them like all right go here and everything's networked. And then also, like, hardening that network from jamming and, like, all that other stuff. Wow, man.

There's a ton of stuff that goes on that. I've been to a few conferences where they're trying to solve a lot of these issues. And then, like, not only do you have all that stuff, but then you have, like, a huge disconnect between, and that, like, some companies, like, Andrew are trying to solve this problem specifically. But you have, like, a dude who, like, built ChatchibT doesn't necessarily understand that, like, what a commander like an army captain is trying to figure out on the ground and so it's like because that's not really you know computers work very well and you give them like a very specific task like if i tell a robot i'm like hey go to go to hill a and kill all the enemy on hill a and they go to

hill a and there's no enemies on hill a they're on hill b and say there's a jamming so it can't talk to me anymore so that robot has to decide okay was the purpose of me coming here to be on Hill A, or was it to kill the enemies? And so then it has to start making decisions. And then... That's the scary part to me. And so that's specifically is called like the human in the loop problem. So it's like at what point are we like, how much risk are we willing to accept by giving

this AI or this robot or this drone the ability to pull a trigger? Like, you know, if they're jammed and there's no way getting up and we have a shot on a tank or an enemy squad in a trench, like, do we let it do it do it? not? And it's like, okay, well, they, they, can you put an AI on a war tribunal? I don't know. Like, those are all like questions that we're going to be asking for. Oh, that is a really good question. Like who, like, and you know, like, okay. Who's the accountable party? Yeah, is it the guy who gave it the order? Is it the guy who wrote the code? Or is it this guy who built the drone? Like, where is that responsibility fault? Because like, the military never wants to do it.

That's why the, like, basically the entire office or core exists. Like, that's, that was my job was to be like, if something goes wrong, that is your fault. Like, 100% no matter what. Like, like, at least we have someone to point to and like whenever you lose that you know who are we pointing it to so and the guy who codes it is it the guy who yeah that's yeah it's there's a lot of weird a weird ethical questions we're going to have to come up when it comes to that kind of stuff cody no that's that's fucking nice i'm just thinking about the the legal aspects of that is insane yeah are you giving it the idea and it's it's i have no mouth and i must scream it's no than that when it's like, hey, what's up?

I'm sentient now. And I've a gun. Yeah. And I can control all these other things now because you didn't think about that. That's what's terrifying to me. The second you give that okay. It's all still within its parameters though, right? Especially in the specific instances. You're telling you it you can start.

Well, you decide at this specific instance if you can kill this person or take the shot. That's where it's that line for me where I'm like, man, that's a hard one. Because is it? How far does that listen? don't get me wrong, Tesla was right. Like, we are living in man-made horrors beyond our comprehension. But this will almost certainly end poorly. But in this instance, I'm like, all right, well, if we don't use it, they will.

Yeah. And they are already using it. Yes. And some of the argument, like, because some are already doing it in the sense where it's like, it's called like terminal tracking, where it's like, you know, a drone will fly up really high. It'll be like an FPV style where it just like slams and something blows up. Yeah. And, you know, it'll be like identified. a you know a tank right and it's flying in it's like oh it's getting jammed and so the AI takes over it's like I'm already looking at this tank that's I'm already flying at like mock fuck like I'm going to slam into it and blow it up and like

some people are saying that like oh you know it's no different than like once I pull the trigger on my rifle that bull I have no control over that bullet and what it does so it's like if it ricochase and you know hits an orphan in the face it's like who that's still my fault kind

of thing well it's not thinking That was my problem. If the bullet stops like a fucking acmeat bullet in a cartoon now I have a different look on that bullet when I pulled the trigger and did that. I don't know if there's a right answer to that because if we don't use AI technology

for ethical reasons then we fall behind on it. If we do use it then the ethical concerns could become real and it's like well what's the right answer? Because it's like nuclear weapons If we just decided, like, oh, if we proliferate nuclear weapons, it could be the undoing of mankind. But if we don't do it, then we're the only ones fucking without them. Well, that's the terrifying part about, like, the nuclear arms race.

But that wasn't self-thinking. And you can control it to a degree, whereas AI, you're just trying to beat the other person on how the tech works or thinks for itself. There is a point of no return where you fuck up and you flip us what you're like, oh, no, we can control that one. Uh-oh. Oh, oh. I don't know if you need. know this, though, but America's enemies not super big on ethical concerns.

I know. No, trust me. I know. That's the terrifying part to me where I think that will be that's almost the next nuclear arms race. No, it's happening right now. Yeah. That and like quantum computing because like whoever

gets like the arm like I'm terrifying. I cover I'm covering this in a video that'll come out in a couple days on Pepperbox. But it's like the the office for the secretary of defense specifically put out three just this month put out three requirements for quantum computing technologies and right now a lot of it is it's it's just like encryption so like the second that we can you know if whoever invents like battlefield quantum computing is instantly gets access to every piece of transmitted information by every army

no matter how encrypted it is or anything like that and we can protect our own from doing that but whoever's first like wins like there's it's it's it's like an instant switch it's not going to be like well we have a nuke and and like oh we're just waiting for the other hopefully we can build more than the other person's like whoever and get there first is is going to win and here's my here's my question though is something like that happens like some let's say somebody gets there first they have the football now is that a green light they're like we now now have a very finite window where we can use this and have the advantage and they don't. I think like, well, I think like the second it's, it's, I think the second.

You are a super power the second you get, that's the thing. There's no like, I'm going to catch up. This is, again, I just couldn't, I was like, okay, I got to double check this. This is the difference between regular CPU, the fastest supercomputer we have and quantum computer. So Willow is Googles, right? Google. Okay. So the quantum chip.

So when you're cracking a problem, a regular computer versus a quantum computer. Quickly differences regular CPU, you are ones and zeros. Quantum computer, there is no ones and zeros. It's just in and out. The difference on how fast this can solve this problem, Brandon, is a regular computer versus a quantum computer. Guess the difference in years. And five minutes, five minutes for a quantum computer.

How many years for a supercomputer? 10,000. Nope. 20,000. 10 septillion. Jesus Christ. That is not a joke. That is the difference between a supercomputer and a quantum computer.

You are looking at septillions. Not billions, trillions. This is that next level. That is why the second we are on quantum level. whoever gets that first, they are the superpower. There's no catching up to that individual. They can then crack any password.

Yeah. So in an hour of computing, you can do more computing than any computer has ever done since we invented them. Yeah. Times a million. This is in times the universe has been around.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, at five minutes. Because it's not, and like the second that it's developed, it's not like a, oh, we're going to,

if you piss us off, we're going to use it. Read that sentence. It's like the second. someone develops it at that level like it's it's going to be used the second it's invented so like not only are they decrypting every single thing that every computer in every other country in the entire world is doing like not only that it's like okay now we're going to use it to develop the most efficient military technologies on earth and it's and it's going to test millions of different

designs across millions of different permutations iterations perfectly and seem like this and then we can and then like how do we how do we make it better like oh do it like this and then yeah it's it's it's it's an absolute race and like why more people aren't i mean i think i know why more people aren't talking about because like no one fucking understands it including myself but yeah like the second it's invented it's like it's game over like for passwords don't exist imagine like our crypt like that doesn't matter anymore it's like oh this if you use a normal supercomputer it would take 10 billion years to crack this code great now i can do it in five minutes that's the difference yeah on why

it's terrifying as fuck and why they're racing i think i don't know if we're allowed to talk one of your buddies that's what he was working on at the 250 uh which one we sat down with he was like you uh we were outside he lives here maybe but he was working with quantum tech you asked him if you like he should be he would be a good guess and when he was like oh yeah i'm working on the quantum tech i was like dude yes a hundred percent trying to think of who you're talking about when we were at the 250 we're at the 250 uh we're at the 250 uh we're outside in the tent area. You sat down with him for a little bit and you grabbed me and pulled me aside.

It's like, hey, you meet this guy really fast. He's a senator or Congress. At the Army, sorry, not the Army 250 at the, at General George's house. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, yeah. That was a Congressman, Congressman Pat Harrigan. So he's working on. He's working right now within Congress. He's working with the Army on quantum technology.

Yeah. That's why it's a fascinated conversation because it's absolutely. terrified. Yeah, I've known Pat for a long time. He's a really, really good guy, genuinely there for the right reasons. I believe former Green Beret. And so he knows what the Army needs, but he also knows, like, how to get it done on the back end. So, like, some of the shit he was telling us about quantum computing is horrifying. Because I remember having this conversation recently about quantum computing, and I was trying to place where it was. And that was it. Yeah. Yeah. I love this shit because reading about and reading how it works, you're like, wow, that's awesome. Also, hmm. everything's just yeah like i really hope that like in 10 years were like oh remember when we thought quantum computer was going to be like this armaged technology for the military we're like oh yeah but i'm the alternative is sitting in a tent remember when we had air conditioning yeah really it will shut down everything instantly ha i fucking hate that idea so much so much who's ready for sky net no love you overlords well that's why i still say please and thank you to

chat gvete yeah i don't care how many gallons of water it wastes i want to be on their side oh shit actually we can talk about you're on pepperbox now i am on pepper box now yeah yeah when did you we you got onboarded a couple of weeks couple weeks ago yes yeah what what you're doing your normal youtube stuff but what is the new shit people get to look forward to so the new thing i'm focusing on right now is a series called acquisitions anonymous uh it's basically where i go through like all of those, you know, DOD acquisitions, things, like the military is wanting, like, a lot of, you, if you know where to look, you find some, like, really weird shit that they're asking for, like the Sam certification, like those government contract sites or Fed BizOps, like stuff like that.

Yeah, or like, D-SIP or something. Like, it's a lot of just, like, weird stuff. And so a lot of it makes sense, like, oh, we want better air conditioning for our trucks. And some of it's like, it's like, we want a, we want a helmet that can work upside down. You're like, what do you mean it works upside down? And so it's like, and then going to, and then going. through it like that and and every month it's like everything's on a monthly thing so you know my new series will just be finding some themes like being like oh

what's the army doing what's the Navy wanting what is or what are some weird ops that people are doing what the dog doing exactly what the dog doing um what's the what's a weird one you've read right now uh the weird one right now is they're trying to build an AI

spoiler they're trying to build an AI that can simulate blasts injuries so like uh think of like a crash test dummy in a computer that they're just going to blow up for eternity which is probably not going to be good when it becomes self-aware but you have cost me so much harm yeah we have already done the i have no mouth and i must scream and we did it to a computer and well because like they just gonna blow you up a hundred thousand times and you can't leave yeah because you know you look at like the slow motion videos of like you know crash test dummies

going and hitting a wall and it's like that's cool but like when you blow something up it adds like a whole other level of complexity and what they used to do is they used to just like take cadavers and do it. And there's like that big story of like the one guy who donated his grandma to science. He's strapped her to a fucking rocket. They strapped her to

it in the inside of Humvee and blew it up. So they tried it was a rocket. I don't know. Maybe they hit it with a rocket. They've done multiple. I think it happened like time and time again. It wasn't a one time thing. Yeah. But yeah just the series of kind of like me. I was thinking like she was like Buzz Lightyear on this big like

cartoonish. What is the army testing? It's the inflatable tomb man. Did we even learn anything for that? No, it was awesome. We learned it was awesome. The slow-mo footage. Grandma's right.

You know that exists. Her pities. That exists. That's somewhere on a hard drive somewhere. Look at them flaps. Oh, God. Oh. I was a GoPro owner.

What's up? gang. Love you, Grandma. Boom. But yeah, that's the series Acquisitions Anonymous

will be like just kind of taking a look at some of the weird ones, some of the cool stuff, some of the weird stuff

that they're asking for and kind of like, why are they asking for that kind of thing? One of my favorite stories about that is the gyrojet, like the gyrojet pistol

and rifle. I think it was MBA Industries made him. I did a video on it with the super slow-mo with the ballistic high-speed guys But originally, it's like Vietnam era, the DoD put out a contract. They basically said, we want a laser pistol.

We want a, like a Star Wars, Star Trek-esque laser pistol. Of course, that didn't exist back then, but you know what I mean? And MBA industries went to them and said, we don't have that, but we do have this rocket gun. And the DOD went, it's not we asked for. We'll take 3,000, please. And they tested it. They fielded them. There was actually, I think there's a picture of a Medal of Honor recipient in Vietnam holding a gyrojet.

And there's a potential that when he did the actions that got him the Medal of Honor, he was carrying a gyrojet. Okay, I did not know that part. Nobody can confirm it or like whatever. But like there are pictures of him holding it in Vietnam in the field. Who fucking knows. But, you know, they were shit canned because they're, you know, they're just trash. But yeah. Expensive ammo.

How much does one bullet cost, Brandon? Oh, and you can find it. Maybe like 200 bucks around. But like that's because they're on a, they don't exist anymore. It was probably a lot cheaper back then, clearly, but. But even in the idea, it's like every bullet. This is a rocket. 60% more bullet for bullet.

Oh, it went off course. Well, fuck it. We'll get another one. And then Brandon, you're, do we, we haven't talked. I'm now just playing catch up in my brain. You're on AK-50 on Escape from Targoff. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think we talked about that in the last, or,

podcast or two ago. Did we? Very briefly, yeah. I think so. Because we were still trying to bully Nikita into giving us some to play with them. Yeah. I don't. Really? Like a couple weeks ago we did? Yeah, I think so. I swear you just showed me that you were in the game. No, no, no. A couple weeks ago in podcast time. Okay. Yeah, I'm like, wait. Yeah, this was like four days ago. Well, four days ago, you got the news, right?

No, it's been off for a minute. Damn it. I'm playing catch up now. I'm like, fucking way. Okay. I'm like, what the fuck did we talk about your quest no I don't we haven't seen uh well I didn't even know about that yet but that was pretty cool I saw the the description for the quest that gets to the AK50 very clever Nikita

that was well done basically I have friend in states who is working on secret project like that sort of thing and you have to apparently go out and find all the different pieces like AK50 barrel AK50 receiver stuff like that that's pretty cool and then you lose it to a hacker instantly

immediately yeah it's us saying we were at the gym talking about it's like Brandon should get gifted like 10 so when he goes out he can bring it out that's the other way to get is if you play against Brandon if he plays I just want to play with my baby on stream I think that'd be fun yeah

but he needs to go out with Willers and Landmark when he has it Willers kills him and takes it and he'll be like cool pot I know where you live Will I will drive to your fucking house with the real one

and that's the stream you just say I got to pull it off I got to go you did that and then you did you talk about it being in Clean's game

no no they did add it to Scaplands so I don't know if that probably hasn't come out yet in time of podcast time but that was pretty fun

he showed me a couple of the clips of using that in the game which is pretty fun I will say they have I don't even know Cody knows that They're, like, asking if we'll be, like, bosses.

They're trying to find a way for all the hosts to be, like, bosses or something. And then we have individual weapons in scavlines, which is really fucking dope. Hell yeah. That would be awesome. Mine was kind of the free space and bingo, but yours, you can choose what you like it. And Brandon just beat Simon. So, congrats. Shout out to Brandon.

Fuck you, Simon. For spending too much time playing X-R-R-A-S-R-3. It's one of those games. Well, I think on that note, we can go to the after show. Cody, you want to close us out? Bye, every... Where can we find you? Oh, fuck, yep, that one.

I'm on YouTube, Justin Taylor, also on Pepperbox, Justin Taylor. They also gave me the designation of Creator 69 on there. I thought that was pretty cool. And on Instagram, formerly Talior, T-A-L-Y-O-R. So that's where you can find me. Bye, everyone. Thank you for joining the unsubscribe podcast. I was joined today by Eli Double Tapp, Justin Taylor,

Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator. Please join us on the after. show on Patreon. You know, oh