Up First from NPR - Biden's Morehouse College Speech, Alabama Autoworkers Union Vote, Daniel Perry Pardon

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

President Biden meets leaders of Black sororities and fraternities ahead of delivering the commencement address at Morehouse College as campus protests continue. Autoworkers in Alabama will vote on wh...ether or not to unionize a Mercedes-Benz plant. And Greg Abbott, the governor of Texas, has pardoned Daniel Perry, who was convicted of murdering Garrett Foster at a Black Lives Matter protest in 2020.Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today's episode of Up First was edited by Roberta Rampton, Julia Redpath, Eric Westervelt, Lisa Thomson and Alice Woelfle. It was produced by Ziad Buchh, Ben Abrams and Kaity Kline. We get engineering support from James Willetts. And our technical director is Zac Coleman. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 President Biden speaks this weekend at the graduation from Morehouse College, which would normally be safe ground for him. This year, I don't believe that he has the capability to inspire us. What happens during this season of campus protest? I'm Steve Inskeep, and this is Up First from NPR News. Auto workers at a giant Mercedes plant say there's no reason they should be paid less just because they are in the Deep South. I think we've proven ourselves by now. So no, no more discount.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Workers vote today on whether to unionize and end the Alabama discount. What's the case for and against? Also, the governor of Texas pardoned a man convicted of murder. Why did he set aside the conviction of Daniel Perry, who shot and killed Garrett Foster at a Black Lives Matter protest? Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day. Now, Our Change will honor 100 years of the Royal Canadian Air Force and their dedicated service to communities at home and abroad. From the skies to our change, this $2 commemorative circulation coin marks their
Starting point is 00:01:11 storied past and promising future. Find the limited edition Royal Canadian Air Force $2 coin today. Today, President Biden meets leaders of Black sororities and fraternities. This weekend, he delivers the commencement address at Morehouse College. It's a historically Black school, and it's in Atlanta, in the swing state of Georgia. In the past, Morehouse would be safe ground for Biden, who enjoyed strong Black support. But it is also a campus in a season of campus protest. NPR White House correspondent Asma Khalid joins us now. Asma, good morning. Good morning, Steve. What would make Biden's reception at Morehouse uncertain? Well, you know, it's going to be the first time in months that President Biden has directly engaged publicly with young college students. And it comes against the backdrop of the war in Gaza, which, you know, Steve, as we know, has been a hot button issue on several college campuses. And Morehouse in particular, I think, is really unique when it comes to social justice issues. Martin Luther King Jr. is an alum. And when I
Starting point is 00:02:09 was on campus last week, a student told me that they really take pride in the idea that this school is built upon the legacy of peaceful protests. Now, you know, to be clear, there are certainly folks on campus. In fact, I met one who told me that it is indeed a great honor to have the president of the United States visit. But this Biden invite has had blowback. A group of faculty wrote an open letter voicing their concerns. There was even some dissent that spilled over during the vote to grant Biden an honorary degree, which is, you know, customary at many graduation ceremonies. But frankly, I will say, Steve, there is some expectation that there will be protests on Sunday. It's just not clear how large or how many. How is the White House preparing for that possible blowback?
Starting point is 00:02:48 The administration sent a senior advisor. His name is Steve Benjamin. He heads up the Office of Public Engagement. He went down to Morehouse ahead of this speech to meet with a group of students and faculty. He heard out their concerns. And in a press briefing, a reporter asked him about the possibility of protests during the president's speech.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Here's what he said. The right to free speech extends to even those who wish to protest, and he respects that. And he makes it a point to lean in when there are protesters in the very same space. I will add that Biden has said he supports peaceful protests as long as they're not overly violent or disruptive. But, you know, I'll add the concerns that about Biden's visit are not exclusively about the war. Time to wake up, Asma, just letting you know. I apologize. It's okay. It's okay. It's all good.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I met a young man, Alan Dunnigan. He was taking graduation photos with friends on campus. And he told me that Morehouse is the school known for black male excellence. And he does not think that Biden is the right person to talk to them about that. To me, the agenda of a commencement is for someone to inspire us. And to me, that should be someone that reflects us. There's nothing that President Biden knows about us, our story, what we've been through as Black men in this world today. So I don't believe that he has the capability to inspire us. Oh, this is really interesting because Black men have been seen somewhat as a possible swing group
Starting point is 00:04:10 a little bit between Democrats and Republicans. I think broadly, Steve, this issue of Black voters is going to be very key this election cycle. They are often the key to Democratic victories, not just in Georgia, but throughout the country. And the Biden campaign knows it has work to do. I mean, if you look at the events that Biden is doing this week, you see that. He met yesterday with the plaintiffs of the famous school desegregation case, Brown v. Board of Education. Today, he is visiting the National Museum of African American History. On Sunday, he'll deliver the keynote at an NAACP event in Detroit. And you know, Steve, one thing I have
Starting point is 00:04:43 heard from black organizers again and again is that they are not concerned that huge numbers of voters are going to defect to Donald Trump. They are worried that some voters might just not be thoroughly impressed with Joe Biden this time around and might stay home. And that could make the difference in very close races like Georgia, which Biden only won by a little less than 12,000 votes. NPSS Mahalad, thanks so much. Good to talk to you. We're about to find out if autoworkers in the Deep South are ready to unionize.
Starting point is 00:05:19 A union election at a Mercedes-Benz plant in Alabama wraps up later this morning. And if workers vote yes, they would make history as the first auto plant workers to unionize in Alabama. NPR's Andrea Hsu is here to talk about this. Hi. Hi, Steve. What do the auto workers want? Well, they say they want to end what they call the Alabama discount. You know, in the Deep South, companies can pay workers less because there aren't a lot of good-paying jobs in the area. Now, I went to Alabama. The plant is just outside Tuscaloosa. It's huge. You can kind of stand on a hill looking over these white rooftops that go on for forever, it seems.
Starting point is 00:05:53 More than 5,000 people work at this plant. And those who are calling for a union say they think a union could give them lower health care costs, more predictability in their schedules, and, of course, higher wages. You know, and actually, Steve, for schedules, and of course, higher wages. You know, and actually, Steve, for years, Mercedes actually paid really good wages. They were comparable to union jobs up north. But workers at the plant told us over the past five years, wages started to slide. And then, of course, last fall came the UAW strike up north against the big three automakers. And workers at Ford, GM, and Stellantis came out of that with these record contracts, these huge raises. Mercedes workers thought, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:30 we deserve that too. You hear people like Jeremy Kimbrell, who's been at Mercedes for 25 years, he's saying this isn't right. You can't underpay people just because they live in the South. His slogan is, end the Alabama discount. Companies say say we'll go down there to Alabama with those poorly educated workers who work for less money to do the same job that pays more in other places. I think we've proven ourself by now. So no, no more discount. Okay, he's got that message, but hasn't the South been a tough place for unions in the past? Yeah, in fact, the UAW has been trying to organize auto workers in the South for decades, and for decades, workers just weren't that interested. There was this acknowledgement that the reason the jobs even existed in the southern states was because it's cheaper to build cars there.
Starting point is 00:07:14 But last month, the UAW finally put a crack in that shield. Workers at Volkswagen in Chattanooga, Tennessee, voted to unionize. It was the UAW's third attempt to organize that whole plant. And 73 percent of the workers there said yes to joining the union. So do you have any idea about how the 5,000 workers at the Mercedes plant are leaning in Alabama? I really don't know. There's been one really big difference that sets these two campaigns apart. Workers at Volkswagen told us the company didn't really campaign against the union, but at Mercedes, it's a totally different story.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Workers say Mercedes has just been relentless with its anti-union messaging over the past few months. They say Mercedes has warned them unions don't always deliver and you have to pay union dues and you don't have a say in how that money is spent. But Mercedes has also been telling workers, we hear you. We know there are things we need to fix. And just a few weeks ago, Steve, they even named a new CEO in Alabama. Workers got this video message from Jörg Bursar. He's a Mercedes board member back in Germany. In my opinion, the only path forward is for us to work together as one team to bring about the positive change you deserve. What are Alabama officials saying about this?
Starting point is 00:08:26 The state's governor, Kay Ivey, has warned that Alabama's model for economic success is under attack from the UAW. Her commerce secretary has warned that unionizing Mercedes would put jobs at risk because why would Mercedes stay in Alabama if they could build cars elsewhere for less? Now, analysts who watch the auto industry say it's unlikely Mercedes would just up and leave Alabama at this point because the plant is so successful. But still, these are really powerful messages, and I'm sure they've resonated with at least some share of workers at the plant. And Paris-Andrea Hsu, thanks for coming by. You're welcome. A Texas man walked out of prison after being convicted of murdering a Black Lives Matter protester back in 2020.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Governor Greg Abbott pardoned Daniel Perry. Andrew Weber from our member station KUT in Austin has been following this story and joins us now. Andrew, good morning. Good morning. I want people to know that you covered some of the protests back in 2020 that led up to this shooting. So what were they like? I did, yes, sir. It was July 2020. It was in the wake of George Floyd's murder. And there were a lot of those protests that summer around the police headquarters here in downtown Austin and around the state capitol. And Garrett Foster was at a lot of those protests with his fiance. She uses a wheelchair and Foster sort of helped her get around protests. And every time I saw him, he was armed with a rifle and he wore military fatigues. He was an Air Force veteran and he was legally carrying that gun. And that July, he was walking
Starting point is 00:10:00 down Congress Avenue downtown. He got into an altercation with Daniel Perry, and he was driving for Uber at the time, and he was also legally armed. And after that altercation, Perry shot Foster multiple times. He was later indicted by a grand jury here in Austin and convicted of murder. Okay, and I remember our coverage of the shooting at that time. How did Governor Abbott then get involved in this case? Well, the case caught the attention of a lot of conservative media outlets, kind of like the case of Kyle Rittenhouse in Wisconsin. And it caught the attention of former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. Abbott appeared on that show and he vowed to pardon
Starting point is 00:10:38 Perry. And yesterday, a board with all of its members appointed by Abbott recommended that. And so Abbott pardoned him and defended the state's stand-your-ground laws. He also kind of took a swipe at the district attorney here for prosecuting the case, saying that the laws can't be nullified by a jury or a progressive district attorney, and Perry, within hours, was released from prison. Okay, you mentioned stand-your-ground laws. Those are laws under which you can say, I feel afraid and therefore I can shoot. I can defend myself. And that's Perry's story. I defended myself. Is there any case that Foster, the man who was shot, did anything to get shot? Well, I mean, he was carrying a gun in Texas at a protest that was
Starting point is 00:11:22 being sort of, it was a peaceful protest being, you know, monitored by Austin police. So that could be argued, but Perry's attorneys would argue that he felt threatened and that he had a right to defend himself. But Foster was legally carrying a gun. Perry was legally carrying a gun. And, you know, it's one of those things where in the trial that was brought up, but the district attorney argued that Perry had a history of making racist comments in the trial that was brought up, but the district attorney argued that Perry had a history of making racist comments in the lead up to this shooting. He made racist slurs on social media through a messenger app, and he said, and this is a quote, he said, I might have to go kill a few people on my way to work. They're rioting outside my apartment complex. What's been the response
Starting point is 00:12:01 to this pardon now from Foster's family and his supporters? The district attorney said that this was, again, quoting, a mockery of our justice system. His fiance said that the governor's pardon kind of set a dangerous precedent because, you know, her fiance didn't agree with the governor's politics. And because of that, she said, quote, Texans who hold political views that are different from Abbott's can be killed in the state with impunity. Can I just ask, now that Perry has been pardoned, does he face any other legal issues? He can get his record expunged. He can get his military service reinstated, and he can now legally carry a gun. That's reporter Andrew Weber with KUT in Austin. Thanks so much for the update. Really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Yes, sir. Appreciate it. And that's a first for this Friday, May 17th. I'm Steve Inskeep. Today's Up First was edited by Roberta Rampton, Julia Redpath, Lisa Thompson, Eric Westervelt, and Alice Wolfley. It was produced by Ziad Butch, Ben Abrams, and Katie Klein. We get engineering support from James Willits, and our technical director is Zach Coleman.
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