Up First from NPR - Blinken Visits Kyiv, Biden Heads to Asia, Proud Boys Leader Sentenced

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

Secretary of State Antony Blinken is expected in Kyiv to show American support for Ukraine's war effort. President Joe Biden will travel to India and Vietnam as he tries to China's influence in the de...veloping world. And Enrique Tarrio was sentenced to 22 years in jail.Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today's episode of Up First was edited by Roberta Rampton, Michael Sullivan, Andrew Sussman and Peter Granitz. It was produced by Shelby Hawkins, Chad Campbell and Ziad Buchh. We get engineering support from Hannah Gluvna. And our technical director is Josephine Nyounai.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ukrainians hope to use the last weeks of summer to accelerate an offensive. How satisfied is the United States with the progress? Secretary of State Antony Blinken reached Kyiv soon after Russian cruise missiles struck. I'm Leila Faudel, that's Steve Inskeep, and this is Up First from NPR News. President Biden is also traveling. He's visiting India and Vietnam while talking of improvements at the World Bank. The message that President Biden is going to India with, which is we're accepting our responsibility and we're going to drive reform. The U.S. wants developing nations to borrow from Western institutions.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Can they make a better case than China? Also, how did a judge explain the 22-year prison sentence for the leader of the Proud Boys? Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day. U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is in Kiev this morning. He laid a wreath at a cemetery honoring Ukrainian soldiers lost in Ukraine's war. And it's a war that continues. Shortly before he arrived, Russian cruise missiles targeted the city, though Ukraine says it shot them down. Look south on the map from Kyiv and you'd see the area where Ukrainian troops are struggling forward in a U.S.-backed counteroffensive.
Starting point is 00:01:22 NPR's Brian Mann is in Kyiv. Hey there, Brian. Hi, Steve. Why is Blinken there now? Well, his big goal is to signal Washington's support for Ukraine, despite questions about the pace of this counteroffensive and the huge cost. Some of that support is going to be tangible. A senior State Department official says Blinken will deliver roughly another billion dollars in new U.S. funding. That includes military, financial, and humanitarian aid. And the official said the U.S. also wants to show they're aligned with Ukraine as this war now heads into the fall and winter. Are they entirely aligned, though, given some of the tensions around the pace of this counteroffensive? Yeah, you know, the Washington Post reported on a U.S. intelligence
Starting point is 00:02:05 analysis that it predicted Ukraine likely won't reach its objectives this summer. That includes punching through to Melitopol, a city on the Sea of Azov, as part of an effort to divide Russia's army and cut off their supply lines. Some critics, Steve, say that Ukraine spread their forces too thin, attacking in too many areas along the front line. Ukrainian officials here have pushed back on that. They say they are gaining ground in the face of really strong Russian defenses. So the State Department official told reporters another goal of this visit will be for Blinken to get a really accurate assessment of what's happening on the ground. And he'll meet with President Zelensky today, who in fact is just back in Kiev
Starting point is 00:02:45 after heading to the front lines and meeting with soldiers in the south and east. Why don't you give us our own assessment here? What are you hearing from soldiers and military analysts in Ukraine? Well, they do talk about progress around Rebotnaya in the south. Ukraine appears to have really pushed through the toughest line of Russian minefields, trenches, and artillery batteries. They're right now trying to breach the next line of defenses around a town called Ferbov. A Ukrainian officer I spoke to was candid, Steve, about how harrowing this is. It's a tough fight. Ukrainians hope that if they can breach these lines,
Starting point is 00:03:17 it'll create a bigger opening for them to move more quickly using those Western tanks and Bradley fighting vehicles we've been hearing about. One thing, though, the clock is ticking here. Once the autumn rain set in in the next few weeks, this battlefield is going to turn to mud and that'll make movement even harder. Brian, can you tell us about a development on the other end of Eurasia? We are following these reports that North Korea's leader will get on a train, leave his country for a summit, a meeting where he'll have a chance to talk face to face with Vladimir Putin. What's going on? The State Department
Starting point is 00:03:50 official who briefed reporters described Putin's effort as scrounging for equipment and said, this is another sign of Russia's desperation. And we have seen signs that Russia's military continues to struggle. They've lost a lot of soldiers and a lot of their best weapons have been used up. A British intelligence report, Steve, this week found Russia's army is now trying to recruit men from neighboring countries to fight. Ukraine also has a problem with manpower, but Kyiv obviously has much broader international support. Ukrainian media have reported that President Zelensky is expected to travel to New York later this month for the UN General Assembly meeting, where he's expected to make the case for that support for Ukraine to continue. Brian, thanks so much. Thank you, Steve. That's NPR's Brian Mann.
Starting point is 00:04:41 As his Secretary of State is in Ukraine, President Biden heads to Asia this week. He'll be traveling Thursday, going to India and then on to Vietnam. Now, both of these countries are China's neighbors. They also have two rising economies at a moment when China's economy is struggling. And Biden will be there in part to focus on countering China's influence. He wants developing nations to more easily find investment and credit without turning to China. NPR White House correspondent Asma Khalid is with us. Good morning. Good morning, Steve. So you'll be traveling along with the president. The first
Starting point is 00:05:16 stop is New Delhi, which is not just a Biden visit. It's the G20, the world's 20 largest economies. What's on the agenda? Well, I would say, Steve, also a question here is who is going to be showing up for this agenda? Two big members of this group are not going to be there, Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The host here will be Narendra Modi, the Indian prime minister. And I'm sure you recall he had a very warm welcome here when he visited Washington recently over the summer, a big state dinner. You know, the Biden administration sees Modi, sees India really as a counterweight in the region. And I will say that even though the G20 has been fractured in recent years with Russia's war in Ukraine and some of the increasing competition between the United States and China, Biden on this trip is really attempting to show that the United States remains committed
Starting point is 00:06:03 to the G20 and that this administration believes there is still value in international economic cooperation. Oh, well, let's talk that through, because when you're talking about a meeting of wealthy nations, one question is how can they help developing nations? Even some of the nations on this list would count as developing nations. What is the president proposing to help them? Well, essentially, the main proposal we hear that he's taking is an effort to build a bigger and better World Bank. You know, in recent decades, Western countries have been backing the bank have sort of, I think, lost a bit of focus is what I hear on this institution, while China, in the meantime, has made a big push with its own multilateral lending programs and its own bilateral program. I'm sure you know
Starting point is 00:06:45 the One Belt, One Road initiative. You know, China itself has also become the third largest player in the World Bank itself. And so what we hear is that Biden is going to be asking, Biden has already, in fact, asked Congress for $2 billion to put into the World Bank. The White House's assessment is that this would leverage tens of billions of dollars more from other countries in the G20 and that this could really help start beefing up the institution. Here's Rachel Kite. She was the former envoy for climate change at the World Bank. All of that requires the U.S. as the largest shareholder to take a lead. And I think that's the message that President Biden is going to India with, which is we're accepting our responsibility and we're going to drive reform. This is a very fine line the U.S. is walking here.
Starting point is 00:07:31 They're insisting that they are not targeting China with this proposal, but also saying that this proposal is an alternative to Chinese lending. I'm really interested in the next stop on this trip. The president goes to Vietnam, Asma. When the president first went into the United States Senate in the 1970s, Vietnam was an enemy of the United States. It later became something of a friend and a trading partner. So what does the president hope to achieve there? I think this is a really key stop here. The president is intending to deepen economic cooperation.
Starting point is 00:08:01 There is an expectation that Vietnam will upgrade its relationship status with the U.S., which, as you mentioned, is key because the U.S. only normalized relations with Vietnam in 1995. At this point, the U.S. has become the largest export market for Vietnamese companies, thanks in large part to the tariffs that were put on Chinese exports under the former president that have remained in effect. And so I think what we'll see on this trip is Biden really trying to engage both India and Vietnam as friends in the region who could be a counterbalance to China. And Piers Esme Khalid, thanks so much. Safe travels. My pleasure. All right. The leader of the Proud Boys has been sentenced to the longest prison term for any January 6th defendant.
Starting point is 00:08:50 A federal judge in Washington Tuesday sentenced Enrique Tarrio to 22 years in prison. He was convicted of seditious conspiracy in May. NPR's Odette Youssef covers domestic extremism and is on the line. Good morning. Good morning, Steve. What was the judge's reasoning for exactly that sentence, 22 years? Well, Judge Timothy Kelly said that Tarrio was the ultimate leader of the group's conspiracy that, quote, ended up with about 200 men amped up for a battle encircling the Capitol. Kelly noted Tarrio's criminal history, saying that this sentence had to have a deterring effect. And he said that he believed Tarrio qualified for
Starting point is 00:09:31 terrorism enhancements to his sentence, but ultimately didn't sentence within that range because he said he didn't believe Tarrio had an intent to kill people. But Tarrio's trial was interesting, Steve, because he wasn't actually in Washington, D.C. on January 6th. He was monitoring developments from a hotel room in Baltimore. Prosecutors used his texts during the trial to show his role in orchestrating a breach of the Capitol. And before the judge announced the sentence, Tario expressed regret for his role. He said he wasn't a political zealot. He acknowledged that Donald Trump lost the election.
Starting point is 00:10:05 But Judge Kelly said, quote, it cannot happen again. Where does this leave the Proud Boys? Well, the trial effectively has put away leadership of the group. Four of Tarrio's lieutenants were sentenced last week to terms between 10 and 18 years in prison. Four of them, including Tarrio, were convicted of seditious conspiracy. And it really marks a remarkable end to Tarrio's tenure as chairman, national chairman of the Proud Boys. You know, that group really started as a violent street gang fighting leftists. But it was vaulted into the national consciousness in 2020 when former President Donald Trump declined to disavow the group's violence in a presidential debate with then-candidate Joe Biden. Proud Boys, stand back and stand by, but I'll tell you what. And after that, Steve, the Proud Boys became regulars at pro-Trump and Stop the Steal rallies.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But the twist here is that despite the prison sentences for Tarrio and other leaders, the organization actually is not weaker today. And in fact, they're larger in terms of chapters and membership than they were on January 6th. How have they grown? Well, unlike some other paramilitary groups that were involved that day, like the Oath Keepers, the Proud Boys adapted. They pivoted away from a centralized national structure, and now they're part of a broader coalition driving the GOP on key issues like LGBTQ rights, limiting inclusive curricula at schools, walking back abortion rights, and really promoting disinformation and harassment campaigns at a local level. One person I spoke
Starting point is 00:11:41 with is Cassie Miller at the Southern Poverty Law Center and she said this is part of a much broader authoritarian movement in the U.S. that the GOP really needs to renounce and it'll take a whole of society approach. NPR's Odette Youssef thanks so much. Sure thing. And that's Up First for this Wednesday September 6th. I'm Steve Inskeep. And I'm Layla Faldin. Today's episode of Up First was edited by Michael Sullivan, Roberta Rampton, Andrew Sussman, and Peter Granitz. It was produced by Shelby Hawkins, Chad Campbell, and Ziad Butch. We get engineering support from Hannah Glovna, and our technical director is Josephine Neonai. Start your day here with us again tomorrow. And remember that you come to Up First for the news you need to know, and you can get a deep dive on one big story by listening to Consider This. In the Consider This feed right now, Google at 25. A look at how Google became so dominant and
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