Up First from NPR - BONUS: Biden's Speech At White House, Trump's Victory, Administration Transition

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

In this bonus episode, Up First co-hosts Leila Fadel and A Martinez break down the latest analysis of the election results and what's ahead for the next Trump administration with the day's reporters, ...experts and analysts. Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.This bonus episode of Up First was Edited by Lisa Thomson and Produced by Kaity Kline. It was made by the Morning Edition and Up First teams along with the entire NPR newsroom. It was also made in collaboration with our engineering and studio teams. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In her concession speech, Vice President Kamala Harris promised a peaceful transition of power, a bedrock of American democracy that her opponent and president-elect Donald Trump threatened in 2020. But Harris also promised this. While I concede this election, I do not concede the fight that fueled this campaign. Trump is on track to win the country's popular vote, the first Republican to do so in two decades. His party controls the Senate and may take the House, so he'll assume power come January
Starting point is 00:00:37 with fewer political ways to check a leader who flippantly said that he'd be a dictator, but only for his first day in office. I'm Leila Faldin, that's Amartine Martinez, and this is a special bonus episode of Up First from NPR News. This morning, President Biden made his first public comments since the results. Following months of division and polarization on the campaign, he spoke about unity. I know for some people it's a time for victory to state the obvious. For others, it's a time of loss. Campaigns are contests of competing visions.
Starting point is 00:01:21 The country chooses one or the other. We accept the choice the country made. I've said many times, you can't love your country only when you win. You can't love your neighbor only when you agree. Now as the transition begins, analysts continue to splice the demographics of the electorate this year. Black voters and Latinos were down as a share of that electorate. Meanwhile, white voters went up compared to 2020. That's the largest single voting group in the country and Democrats don't
Starting point is 00:01:55 typically win the majority of them. That included Harris this year, although she was slightly up with that voting base. Meanwhile, Trump's record margin with Latinos for Republicans, specifically with Latino men, was something Harris could not overcome. Whether Trump turned out new Latino voters or convinced committed voters to defect from Democrats is a question Mark Hugo Lopez helps answer. He's the director of race and ethnicity research at the Pew Research Center. On the one hand, there are many new first-time voters for Latinos because we have so many new Latinos being able to vote for the first time. They've come of age, they've entered adulthood, but it also looks like there's been a shift
Starting point is 00:02:32 among Latinos. And this is something that's been going on for some time. It's not new to this election, but we've been seeing Trump do better with Latino voters in 2020 compared to 16, and also now it looks like in 2024 compared to 2020. Here's what Lopez had to say about how some Latino voters may have weighed up their decision. It was really the economy, the rise of inflation, prices for food and other goods, housing prices as well, which Latinos continue to point to. And they point to Donald Trump as being the better candidate, or at least they were split
Starting point is 00:03:02 on whether or not Harris or Trump are the better candidate on economics. On immigration policy, for example, you'll find that about one third of Latinos say to improve the situation at the border, we need to have an increase in deportation to people who are in the country illegally. But at the same time, you'll find that the majority of Latinos want a pathway to citizenship or some sort of support for those who are in the country living here already illegally. Now, we've talked a little about women voters on this podcast and Harris's hopes they turn out in record numbers for her. A majority of women did vote for Harris, but not more women than those that typically vote
Starting point is 00:03:35 Democrat. In fact, she got a smaller proportion of women than President Biden did in 2020. We heard from Debbie Walsh, who directs the Center for Women and Politics at Rutgers University for more on the gender gap. We've seen this gender gap and the difference between the way men and women vote since about 1980. But there is a lot of variation among women. Women are not monolithic. And so you want to look at the different sort of slicing through the different demographic groups to really see and understand the women's vote. So 57% of white college educated women voted for Harris.
Starting point is 00:04:16 White women without a college degree, 35%. And in fact, when you look at all of the different groups of voters, men, women, by race and ethnicity and college and education level, the one group that actually improved for Kamala Harris is those white college educated women. Joe Biden got 54% of that vote. Hillary Clinton got 51%. Kamala Harris got 57%. Now she got 57% of college-educated women, but that jumped way up when you look at black women. 89% voted for Harris and up when you looked at Latinas. They voted at 60% for Harris.
Starting point is 00:05:00 On why she thinks women voted the way they did. I think what happened that we are seeing across the board has to do in large part with economics and class and a sense that the economy was primary. Even though the abortion issue was there and it really resonated for a lot of women and was clearly a motivator in the midterm elections, it appears that in this election cycle, this rejection of where things were with the economy, women who were feeling, as men were, that the economy wasn't working for them
Starting point is 00:05:36 and that they were looking for change. Harris also leaned on centrist and self-described moderate Republicans appealing to conservative voters who couldn't deal with Trump's rhetoric, But that didn't seem to materialize. Daniel McCarthy says it was a rejection of traditional politics and legacy institutions writ large. He's the editor of Modern Age, a conservative review, and he talked about something he calls creative destruction and how that appealed to voters. Well, in economics, creative destruction is what happens when an entrepreneur, a new firm,
Starting point is 00:06:07 enters a market and discovers that the existing market relationships, the old firms that had been providing goods and services to people, were not providing goods and services that were of high enough quality or that were insufficient demand for those businesses to stay in business. So basically, it's when a new competitor shows that the old competitors were inefficient and were unsatisfactory to the consumer base. And in politics, I say basically that Donald Trump has been a kind of new disruptive product or force
Starting point is 00:06:37 that shows that a lot of our other institutions and political leaders have lost the trust of the public. Now, Trump has made some major promises on the campaign trail, from mass deportations of millions of people, to ending the war in Ukraine, to purging civil servants and replacing them with partisan loyalists. NPR's White House correspondent, Asma Khalid, reports on steps the Biden White House
Starting point is 00:07:00 has been taking to future-proof a few of its key policies. So one big thing is that Biden has said he would make sure all remaining funds for Ukraine will be allocated by the end of his term, leaving no money for the next president's discretion. And then also this summer, NATO took on a larger role in coordinating military support and training for Ukraine. This is something that previously had largely been spearheaded by the United States. And then I think one really interesting thing is that just last month, the G7 announced a new plan to provide additional support for Ukraine via a $50 billion loan. The United States is going to provide a good chunk of that. And the goal is to get that
Starting point is 00:07:38 money out the door as much of it as possible ahead of inauguration day. Biden's administration was also thinking about that promise to get rid of civil servants, you know, the non-political government workers who make the government work. I mean, during the final weeks of Trump's first term in 2020, he issued an executive order creating a new class of federal workers known as Schedule F.
Starting point is 00:08:00 These people would be exempt from the country's traditional merit-based civil service program. And Democrats saw this as a deliberate attempt to hire and fire people not based on their expertise but on their political loyalty. So when Biden came in, one of the first things he did was rescind that executive order. This past spring, they issued a rule to make it very difficult to overhaul the federal workforce for ideological reasons. And this is key because once a rule is on the books, a president cannot just come in
Starting point is 00:08:30 and change the existing rule via executive order. So a new Trump administration would have to propose a new rule and that is a tedious regulatory process that could take months, maybe even years, get held up in courts. So you know, it is still possible for the Trump administration to repeal the rule, but it is more difficult. A hallmark legislation of the Biden administration is the big climate bill, the Inflation Reduction Act, and that was passed in 2022. Republicans have already talked about rescinding elements of the law, specifically the tax credits for people who want to purchase electric vehicles could go up, or the incentives to build electric charging infrastructure. I mean, there's not a whole lot that the Biden
Starting point is 00:09:09 White House could do to protect this, but they've been trying to tout the bill's popularity in spurring manufacturing projects in Republican congressional districts, hoping that that will somehow protect the bill from being repealed. But we'll have to see what happens. Names already being floated for key positions in the next administration. One-time independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is someone Trump says he'll let, quote, go wild on health. Kennedy is aiming for a big role in public health, although he has no public health or medical degrees, and he has trafficked in misleading or outright false conspiracy theories,
Starting point is 00:09:43 including that Wi-Fi causes cancer and saying that chemicals in the water turn children transgender. Our co-host, Steven Schiebs, spoke to Kennedy yesterday and he briefed on that conversation with NPR science desk correspondent, Ping Huang, today. Is this something that the administration is definitely going to do, recommend against fluoride?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yes, that's something that the administration will do. Okay. So Kennedy gave his reasons. He claimed that fluoride affects neurological development and lowers IQ in children in addition to being good for your teeth, which is why it's in the drinking water. What does the science say about this? Yeah. So Steve, as you mentioned, fluoride has been added to public water systems for a long time since the 1940s. And the main reason is that it prevents cavities. Now, for all of those decades, it's had its detractors too. It's long been known to stain teeth and damage enamel at high levels, and more recently,
Starting point is 00:10:36 some studies have linked high levels of fluoride with lower IQ. That's at levels of fluoride that are twice what's recommended for drinking water, and it's not clear that there's any risk to lower fluoride levels, which have clearly been useful in preventing cavities. So there is a scientific discussion around IQ and high levels of fluoride that's happening, but Kennedy also said that fluoride in drinking water causes arthritis, cancer, other diseases, and those claims are just not part of the event debate right now. Now, there's another topic that we discussed in yesterday's interview. arthritis, cancer, other diseases, and those claims are just not part of the event debate right now.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Now, there's another topic that we discussed in yesterday's interview. RFK and I talked about vaccines. How quickly will you act on federal support for vaccines or research on vaccines? I will work immediately on that. That will be one of my priorities to make sure that Americans, of course, we're not going to take vaccines away from anybody. We are going to make sure that Americans have good information right now. The science on vaccine safety, particularly, has huge deficits in it.
Starting point is 00:11:37 We're going to make sure that those scientific studies are done and that people can make informed choices about their vaccinations and their children's vaccinations. Okay. So he just wants to get information out there, which sounds fine, but his viewpoint on this is the information shows that vaccines generally are unsafe. What do we make of that? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:58 As you're saying, what he's doing here is on the one hand saying that they, you know, we just want more information. On the other hand, he's challenging the safety of vaccines, which has long been established relative to the risks that they protect against. You know, Kennedy is a known vaccine skeptic. He's called COVID vaccines a crime against humanity, pushed claims that vaccines cause autism over and over.
Starting point is 00:12:18 That is not true. It is disproven. Of course, President-elect Trump will also be the commander in chief of the Army and the Navy. Republican Representative Michael Walz of Florida serves on House committees on military and intelligence matters. We heard from him about what changes he thinks could be on the horizon for the defense establishment under a new Trump administration. We still have a Pentagon that cannot audit itself, despite years and years of trying.
Starting point is 00:12:45 The basics of understanding where every tax dollar goes, they just over and over again, cost twice as much, deliver half as much, and take twice as long as originally planned. And there is a whole slew of new technologies from Silicon Valley and elsewhere that are really chomping at the bit to help with our defense and security issues.
Starting point is 00:13:07 The reelection of former President Donald Trump is also a historic first. The first time a convicted felon will be president of the United States, which raises questions about the future of the outstanding lawsuits and criminal cases against him. NPR's national justice correspondent, Carrie Johnson, has been reporting on the two federal cases brought by special counsel Jack Smith. There's a long-standing view inside the Justice Department. Both Republican and Democratic administrations have followed this view. It says a sitting president cannot be indicted or face criminal trial. The reasoning there is it would be too much of a burden, that it would be unconstitutional and would undermine the work of the executive branch. Trump's Attorney
Starting point is 00:13:48 General Bill Barr and House Majority Leader Steve Scalise are calling on this Justice Department to drop the DC case against Trump. The writing is on the wall, Bill Barr says, and people have considered these allegations against Trump about election interference, but the voters rejected them resoundingly. Okay, so it looks like the Justice Department will be winding those cases down before the inauguration. Another outstanding question is still whether or not Trump will face sentencing over his criminal case in New York.
Starting point is 00:14:21 One more thing though before we go, the 2024 presidential election may be over, but maybe you're taking a break from election stuff for a while or maybe you can't stop scrolling. Either way, do not stress about where to go for reliable information in the next few months and beyond. Across the NPR network, we're going to be working to explain the biggest stories and fact checks so you can keep a grip on what's happening. And if that sounds very valuable to you, please help make it possible.
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