Up First from NPR - Economic Worries, Latest from Beirut, 9/11 Plea Deal Revoked

Episode Date: August 3, 2024

A weaker-than-expected jobs report sent stocks tumbling and stoked fears the Federal Reserve is working too slowly to adequately support the economy. The U.S. is sending warships to the Mideast as Israel targets militant leaders in the region. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has revoked the Pentagon's plea deal with 9/11 defendants.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Stocks are down, unemployment is up. Is the head of the Federal Reserve certain he's steering the economy in the right direction? Certainty is not a word that we have in our business. Well, okay then. I'm Scott Simon. I'm Ayesha Roscoe, and this is Up First from NPR News. The economy had been headed for a soft landing from the shock and many aftershocks of the pandemic. We'll go behind the numbers. A blast in Tehran kills a Hamas leader and protests in Beirut.

The president and vice president on the phone to Israel's prime minister. I have all the latest from the Middle East. And a plea agreement with 9-11 defendants is now off the table. Why the defense secretary says no deal. Stay with us. We have the news you need to start your weekend. Truth, independence, fairness, transparency, respect, excellence. This is NPR. Hey there, this is Felix Contreras, one of the co-hosts of Alt Latino, the podcast from NPR Music where we discuss Latinx culture, music, and heritage with the artists that create it. Listen now to the Alt Latino Podcast from NPR.

The inflation news has all been very positive. And we have a job market that is about the strongest that we've seen in 50 years. That's what Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen told us on Weekend Edition just a week ago today. So what's changed? For one, an employment report that came in weaker than expected yesterday, sending the Dow down more than 600 points. Investors wonder if the economy is headed for a recession and if the Federal Reserve, which Janet Yellen chaired before she became Treasury Secretary, isn't acting quickly enough to avert it. Add to that a slip by the tech-heavy Nasdaq index into what's called correction territory, meaning it's fallen 10 percent from

its recent high. At all means, we need to talk with NPR chief economics correspondent Scott Horsley. Scott, thanks for being with us. Good morning, Scott. What got to the market about the jobs report? You know, even before the jobs report yesterday, there were signs of some cracks in the labor market. On Thursday, we learned that new applications for unemployment benefits had jumped to the highest level in a year. That sparked its own mini sell-off in the market, and then the route really accelerated Friday after the Labor Department said employers added

just 114,000 jobs last month, far fewer than forecasters had expected. What's more, the unemployment rate jumped to 4.3% in July. That's almost a full point higher than it was a year ago. And the worry is when unemployment rises that much, it generally doesn't level off right away. It tends to keep climbing. There's kind of a negative feedback loop where people lose jobs, so they have less money to spend, and businesses don't sell as much, so they lay off even more people. That's what markets are spooked about. And there's a concern the Federal Reserve may have missed an

opportunity to interrupt that downward spiral. Well, and as you note, of course, they met just recently and more remarkable than what they did do for some people was what they didn't do. Yeah, what they didn't do was cut interest rates. Instead, they left their benchmark rate at the highest level in more than two decades, where it's been for the full year now. Those high interest rates have helped in bringing down inflation, but they've also been a drag on some important parts of the economy, especially manufacturing and the housing market. Now, Fed Chairman Jerome Powell signaled Wednesday that the Fed might be ready to cut interest rates at their next meeting in September. Bloomberg's Mike McKee asked Powell

if he's worried about waiting too long. Are you certain that you won't fall behind the curve and lead to unnecessary unemployment if you wait until September? Certainty is not a word that we have in our business. Now, investors were already expecting the Fed to cut rates by a quarter percentage point in September. After this week's jobs report on Friday, they're betting a more aggressive half-point rate cut could be in the works. Quincy Crosby, who's chief global strategist at LPL Financial, says even that might not be enough. The market is concerned that it may be too little too late. If the job market weakens further, there's going to be a lot of second guessing about the Fed's timing. Just as the central bank was slow to raise interest rates three years ago when prices started climbing, critics will say it was too slow to cut rates

when it had a chance to prevent a broader economic downturn. And Scott, does this explain the NASDAQ? Because tech stocks took a particular beating this week, didn't they? Yeah, Intel, the big chipmaker, had a terrible week. It reported disappointing earnings and said it's laying off about 15% of its workforce. Its stock lost more than a quarter of its value. That also dragged down some other semiconductor companies. And there's also been some newfound skepticism about artificial intelligence. You know, in recent months, excitement over AI has been pushing stocks to record highs. Crosby says some investors are starting to wonder if all the money that's been pumped into those stocks will, in fact, pay off. The question is now, are they just spending too much and not able to integrate the features quickly enough in order to monetize it?

Even the mighty Amazon saw its stock drop nearly 9% Friday. The e-commerce giant is spending tens of billions of dollars this year to build up its cloud computing and AI businesses. That is expected to cut into Amazon's profits, though, and on a day when many people were in a foul mood anyway, it didn't take much for them to dump the stock. I'm Pierre Scott Worsley. Thanks so much. You're welcome. Next up today, the Middle East.

The U.S. is sending more warships to respond to an expected attack on Israel by Iran and its allies. That's following Israel's killing of several top militant Palestinian and Lebanese leaders. And Pierre's Jane Araf joins us now from Beirut. Jane, thanks for being with us. Thank you, Scott. What is the latest? Well, Israel is continuing those attacks on militant commanders. The Palestinian news agency says an Israeli airstrike this morning actually killed a Hamas commander in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. And as you know, Scott, in the past week, Israel has killed several top commanders of Hamas, Lebanese, Hezbollah,

and Islamic Jihad, including in an airstrike here in the Lebanese capital. Israel hasn't taken responsibility, but it's believed to be behind the killing of a top Hamas political official while he was visiting Iran. Iran and its allies are expected to retaliate, and it has dramatically increased fears of a wider conflict breaking out. As evidence of that, the U.S. Defense Department is sending more warships and warplanes to the region, and Israel and Lebanon are bracing for the expected retaliation. Here's U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin regarding the U.S. military response. If Israel is attacked, we certainly will help defend Israel. You saw us do that in April. You can expect to see us do that again. But we don't want to see any of that happen.

The reference to April is when Iran fired hundreds of missiles and attack drones at Israel in retaliation for an airstrike that killed a top Iranian commander in Syria. The Hamas leader killed in Iran was buried in Qatar yesterday and gathered mourning in several cities. Could you tell us about that, please? It was an elaborate funeral for Ismail Haniyeh, whose body was brought back from Iran. He'd been a guest of Iran. He was there for the inauguration of the new president. So the killing was particularly provocative. Israel hasn't claimed responsibility, but it's widely believed to have been behind the attack. And Scott, it's had a particular impact because Haniyeh wasn't a military commander. He was head of the Hamas political bureau in Qatar and involved in

U.S. brokered ceasefire negotiations with Israel over the war in Gaza. Jordan's foreign minister, Ayman al-Safadi, said this week that after Haniyeh's killing, Israel had now become a, quote, rogue state. He was the one who was negotiating the exchange deal. So how on earth is a country that wants to conclude a deal, kills the main interlocutor in those negotiations? Let's keep in mind that Jordan is one of only two Arab countries with a peace agreement with Israel. Safadi said the killing was an attempt by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to torpedo the ceasefire talks. There are lots of diplomatic efforts still going on.

The U.S. doesn't speak to Iran directly, but Safadi, for instance, this week spoke with both the U.S. Secretary of State and the Iranian foreign minister to try to de-escalate tensions. What's the scene been like in Iran? Well, Iran held a huge memorial forum before transferring his body to Qatar. And here in Beirut, Palestinian factions held a symbolic funeral. Fighters carried two coffins representing Hani and his bodyguard draped in Palestinian flags. A speaker said Hani could rest now and others would carry on his work. Almost every Palestinian faction was represented, including a lot of young people,

most of them grandchildren of people expelled from their homes decades ago. And what was striking, Scott, was their absolute faith that someday they will go home again. And gather Israel detained the preacher of an important mosque in Jerusalem for incitement. What do we know about that? Yeah, it was Al-Aqsa Mosque, one of the holiest places in Islam. Israeli security forces took Sheikh Ikram Sabri away for questioning after he delivered a eulogy for Hania. He was detained for several hours and then temporarily banned from the mosque. And where are we at the moment? Well, under high alert, certainly regarding Israel, most airlines have stopped flights in and out. And Lebanon, a bit of a bubble here in Beirut, but the country is clearly bracing for attacks, and U.S. and other embassies are worried.

And here's Jane Araf in Beirut. Thanks so much. Thank you, Cuba. Three days ago, the Pentagon announced it had reached a plea agreement with three 9-11 defendants, including the alleged mastermind of the attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. It would have mostly resolved the prosecution after two decades of legal quagmire, but last night, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin took the deal off the table. NPR's Sasha Pfeiffer has been covering Guantanamo and joins us now. Sasha, thanks so much for being with us. You're welcome. Good morning, Scott. A little more detail, please, on events of the week.

Yes, and first I want to note, many people are always shocked to hear that Guantanamo is still open. It was set up after the so-called War on Terror, after the September 11th attacks. There are still prisoners there, still active cases. One of them is the September 11th 9-11 case. Twenty years later, still ongoing. This week was an earthquake at Guantanamo for those who cover it because on Wednesday, it was announced that three of the 9-11 defendants, including the big guy, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, were going to plead guilty in exchange for, in KSM's case, a life sentence.

It's presumed the other two would also get a life sentence. In return, the death penalty would come off the table and they would no longer go to trial, which, by the way, it's looked increasingly unlikely that there will ever be a trial. And this was great news to people who felt that it had been really bogged down for years and was finally ending. There were some strong feelings about it, though, weren't there? Very much.

Now, again, some people who realize how intractable the case has become felt like finally it's resolved. But people were very upset. Some 9-11 family members felt like they wanted to see these men put to death. They feel like a trial might bring out some secrets about 9-11 we don't already know. Some congressional members pushed back. And then all of a sudden, last night, shocking thing happened. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin puts out a short memo

saying, I am withdrawing from the plea agreements. I'm also removing the person in charge of the military court who oversees 9-11 in the case, just in the 9-11 case, and basically undid the deal. Isn't the military court part of the defense department that Lloyd Austin heads? Yes, and this is what's so puzzling. The court is this complicated thing that's overseen by someone called the convening authority, who in theory, statutorily has independence, does not need the Secretary of Defense's approval to make plea deals. Yet Austin reversed it.

He basically said, it's so significant a decision that I alone should make it. So I'm going to step in and reverse it. We also were told that the Biden White House had not known about this till Wednesday. So this huge, huge pushback coming from all quarters seems to have pressured Austin into reversing the deal. And what kind of reaction has there been? Huge. I want to play for you Brett Eagleson, who was 15 years old when his father died in the World Trade Center collapse. Brett opposes the deals. And here's what he said about the plea agreements.

We all deserve our day in court. And to do a plea deal feels like we've been betrayed. We want a trial. We want to put these individuals on a stand. We want the public to see it. And we want the media to see everything that these individuals have to say. And Scott, at the other end of the spectrum is Elizabeth Miller. She was six when her Staten Island firefighter dad died in the 9-11 attack. She's been a supporter of the agreements and here's what she said to me last night. I'm really just feeling numb. I'm disappointed in the U.S. government. We're no closer to a death penalty conviction now than we were 13 years ago. Most families just want this

to end. And this was the best way, and in my opinion, the only way that it was going to end. But Scott, this reversal of the plea deal makes the end look even farther away. Basically, what happens now is the 9-11 case goes back to this legal slog of endless so-called pre-trial hearings, and it's unclear how they might get to trial, if ever. And Pierre Soster Pfeiffer, thank you so much. You're welcome. And that's up first for Saturday, August 3rd. I'm Aisha Roscoe.

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