Up First from NPR - FEMA Misinformation, Candidates On the Podcast Circuit, Israelis Mark Oct. 7

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

Disaster relief officials try to push back on rampant misinformation about hurricane relief. Why presidential candidates appear on podcasts. And Israelis mark one year after Oct. 7.Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today's episode of Up First was edited by Hannah Bloch, Megan Pratz, Ally Schweitzer and Alice Woelfe. It was produced by Paige Waterhouse, Nia Dumas and Ana Perez. We get engineering support from Carleigh Strange and our technical director is Zac Coleman.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Federal disaster authorities prepare for a new hurricane along with a flood of lies. This kind of rhetoric is not helpful to people. What is FEMA actually doing in disaster zones and how do false claims get in their way? I'm Steve Inskeep with Amartinus and this is Up First from NPR News. If you're hearing my voice, you know this is true. Many voters get their information from podcasts. Maybe that's why presidential candidates are appearing on so many of them lately. Sometimes they even make news. Also Israeli memorials on October 7th brought the country together in mourning and also

revealed divisions. What are Israelis thinking as the war with Hamas enters the second year? And for the residents of Gaza, it was another day of airstrikes. Stay with us. We've got all the news you need to start your day. This message comes from WISE, the app for doing things in other currencies. Send, spend, or receive money internationally and always get the real-time mid-market exchange rate with no hidden fees.

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are 34 Senate seats up for grabs, and in the House, Republicans are clinging to a single-digit majority. Those races will determine what the next president can do with his or her power. We're covering it all this year, but we can't do it without your support. So help us out and sign up for NPR+. Go to plus.mpr.org. Americans preparing for Hurricane Milton face two kinds of floods. One is a flood of water, like the storm surge that hit Florida from the last hurricane or the rain that scoured the valleys of Appalachia.

The other is a surge of misinformation about the Federal Emergency Management Agency. FEMA says it's provided more than $210 million in aid so far. Federal personnel are deployed across the southeast. They've delivered millions of meals and millions of liters of water and the White House says it is positioning resources for Milton. At the same time presidential voting is underway and former President Trump gave a different picture of the federal response. This is a small part of a rambling campaign talk last week in the swing state of Michigan. They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a bank so they could give it to their

illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season. FEMA's administrator says this false claim is discouraging people from applying for the federal funds they need. NPR's Stephen Fowler is covering this. So Stephen, let's start with this claim that we just heard from Donald Trump, that FEMA gave away its budget to undocumented immigrants so that they could vote Democrat. Fact check that for us.

Sure, so for one, non-citizens still can't vote in the presidential election. Two, Trump and his allies are talking about a grant FEMA administered from customs and border protection to municipalities that saw an influx of migrants. So three, that is not the same as the FEMA disaster recovery fund that is funded by Congress to help with disaster recovery. Now Trump also repeatedly says the government is only giving people $750 for recovery, comparing

it to billions spent in foreign aid. That $750 is what's called serious needs assistance, which is an initial direct relief payment intended to help cover emergency supplies like food, water, baby formula, and other basics. It's also worth noting that he's making explicit attacks against Harris handling the recovery and migrants as election issues with less than a month to go before voting ends. All right. So just to be clear, that's $750, just an initial payment.

What's the broader, more accurate picture of the federal response? There are thousands of people on the ground helping with rescue efforts across several states, passing out food, water, supplies, signing people up for the fuller assistance. Emergency response isn't a one-way street nor a top-down mandate from the feds.

I mean, it involves a lot of communication and coordination and planning at every level. So while national Republicans are complaining, state and local Republicans affected are complimentary of the response and focused on the task at hand. A. The disaster fund was running low earlier this year because there were lots of disasters, but when the new fiscal year started last week, that fund was replenished with its full 20 billion dollar allotment. That said, Congress isn't coming back until after the election. So Biden and lawmakers from both parties in these affected areas are pushing for a return sooner to provide more relief, especially as Milton is poised to cause massive destruction.

Yeah, Florida is now preparing for Milton, the Gulf Coast in particular. What does that prep for the storm look like so far? The White House says they've already approved Florida's emergency declaration request. They're pre-positioning resources to move in quickly once the storm passes and doing things to help expedite debris removal from the last hurricane that they're still dealing with. Unfortunately the conspiracies are only getting worse. There are Congress members like Georgia's Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene who falsely claim a nebulous they control the weather.

Hurricanes don't care who you vote for and neither does the money to fix it. NPR Stephen Fowler in Atlanta. Stephen, thanks. Thank you. Vice president and candidate Kamala Harris have been stepping up media appearances lately. She's been getting criticism that she's not spending enough time in the public eye. Harris has done traditional shows like 60 Minutes and also hitting the podcast circuit. Last week she turned up on the podcast All the Smoke, hosted by former NBA champ Stephen

Jackson and Matt Barnes. As someone who's been the first in a lot of spaces you've been in, a woman of color knocking on the door to possibly be the next president, how do you protect your mental health and your mental space? Well, number one rule, don't read the comments. They're nasty. This was the same interview in which Harris made news by saying she supports legalizing cannabis.

Harris' opponent, Donald Trump, has also done a string of podcasts. So what's the media strategy here? Let's ask Axios media correspondent, Sarah Fischer. So Sarah, what do the candidates believe they have to gain by appearing on these podcasts? Well, in the final months and weeks leading up to the election, you actually just don't have much to lose in not doing them, right? This election is going to come down to just a few hundred thousand, maybe even less votes in some swing states.

And so the key here is to make sure that you are reaching people, reminding people of who you are and what your platform is ahead of the election. Now, typically in previous elections, you could go to television, you could do print interviews, you could do radio interviews to try to reach those people. And those mediums still do have a massive footprint. But what's different now is that podcasts which are able to go viral on platforms like TikTok have really big audiences in a way that they didn't even quite have four years ago. Now those are seen as opportunities for candidates to reach different kinds of voters, whether it's with the Call Her Daddy podcast, Young Women, or the podcast that you just mentioned, which reaches a ton of

young men and young people. This is the way that candidates feel like they can reach more people in the final days and weeks. Yeah, if you have a specific slice, Sarah, people that you want to reach, there is a podcast for that. That's for sure. There's a lot of them. But when you and I are doing interviews, I mean, we have journalistic principles that we follow. So do these podcasts follow any of that? Typically not. I mean, these are typically run by hosts who are influencers, maybe they're former reality

stars or former athletes. They are not people who typically have journalistic training, although you'll see they prepare for interviews. Sometimes they'll reference soundbites. They'll try to make sure that this interview feels very authoritative. They are not going to be doing journalistic training, although you will see they prepare for interviews, sometimes they will reference sound bites, they will try to make sure that this interview feels very authoritative, but at the end of the day, the same type of

journalistic standards and scrutiny that you and I would pose on an interview don't exist here. For example, with the Caller Daddy interview that Kamala Harris did, that entire interview for the most part was really just dedicated to women's rights, abortion, and these are topics that are winning issues for Kamala Harris. She was not pressed on that interview about things like the border or immigration or debt or taxes, and the list goes on and on. And so the reason why I think you're going to have pressure to do both types of environments, a formal sit down interview with a journalistic outlet like an NPR or in the case of last night, 60 Minutes, it's because voters want to know more about your actual platform

as opposed to if you're sitting down with a podcaster, they're just getting to know a little bit more about you personally. That's Axios media correspondent, Sarah Fisher. Sarah, thanks. Thank you. And now to Israel, where people across the country observed a day of grief and reflection yesterday, marking one year since the attacks on October 7th. That was the day that Hamas-led militants stormed out of Gaza and attacked communities in southern

Israel. The killing and hostage-taking on that day was followed by a year-long Israeli offensive across Gaza so far, and also attacks on Israel from elsewhere in the region, including from Hezbollah in Lebanon. In recent days, Israel has expanded its offensive into Lebanon. HOFFMAN MPR's Kat Lonsdorf joins us now from Tel Aviv. So let's start with the memorials in Israel, Kat. What can you tell us about how Israelis marked the year? KAT LONSDORF Yeah, the mood was really somber here. There were several different memorials in Israel, Kat. What can you tell us about how Israelis marked the year? Yeah, the mood was really somber here. There were several different memorials throughout the country. One was organized by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government, one by the families of hostages and people killed last October,

and a few more at the actual sites down south where the attacks took place. You know, a big reason for those different memorials has to do with disagreements over Netanyahu's insistence for continuing the war in Gaza. Families of hostages and their supporters want an immediate ceasefire deal to end the war and get the remaining 101 hostages back. They didn't want to be part of the official government memorial. And you know it's also worth noting just here in Tel Aviv yesterday, sirens went off warning of incoming rockets from three different places throughout the day. First Hamas shot rockets from Gaza, a few of which hit in the Tel Aviv suburbs.

Then later, the Israeli military said it shot down a missile from Yemen. And then late last night, huge booms in Tel Aviv. It actually shook my windows here, as the Israeli military said it shot down projectiles from Lebanon. The backdrop of all this, of course, is now multiple wars being fought by Israel, both in Gaza and Lebanon, and Israeli troops in the occupied West Bank.

So, Kat, let's start with Gaza, which has been devastated by Israeli force over the past year. What happened there yesterday? So Israeli airstrikes started early in the morning in Gaza and Hamas also launched rockets back at Southern Israel. Both of those happened right around 6.29 AM,

which was when the attack on Israel started last year. Israeli airstrikes continued in Gaza throughout the day. Israel said it was taking out Hamas rocket launchers, but at least 39 Palestinians were killed according to health officials there, and that's just yesterday. And there were more Israeli evacuation orders for both North and South Gaza. This comes after an entire year of continuous displacement for Palestinians there. The Israeli military said it's about to go into the North with what it calls, quote, extreme force. So we're going to watch and see what happens. Okay.

And then there's also Lebanon where Israeli troops began a ground invasion last week. What do we know about that? Well, it's hard to get much information about what's happening in southern Lebanon because it's been declared a closed military zone by Israel. But we do know that Israel is continuing its strikes in southern Lebanon and in Beirut. An Israeli airstrike killed at least 10 firefighters in the south yesterday, according to Lebanese health officials, and those firefighters were getting ready to rescue people who'd been hurt in other strikes.

Israel says it's targeting Hezbollah militants in those strikes. Just in the past few weeks of Israeli strikes, more than 1,000 people have been killed in Lebanon, thousands wounded, and more than a million have been displaced, according to Lebanese officials. Israel says it's going in for quote limited operations, but this is also language that Israel has used about Gaza and that war is still very much ongoing a year later. So many fear that Lebanon might be the same. And one more thing really quick, you know, when I watch on television, I see air sirens and air strikes.

I mean, how is it just being in Tel Aviv? Do you feel safe at all? You know, it'sirens and airstrikes. I mean, how, how is it just being in Tel Aviv? Is it, do you feel safe at all? Uh, you know, it's gotten pretty normal here. The airstrikes happened up North a lot more. So yesterday was significant, but you know, I think people have become relatively used to this as, as sad as that is. All right. Uh, that's NPR's Kat Lonsdorf in Tel Aviv.

Kat, thank you very much for this reporting. Thanks so much, eh? Thank you very much for this reporting. Thanks so much, A. And that's Up First for Tuesday, October 8th. I'm Ami Martinez. And I'm Stephen Skeep. For your next listen, consider, consider this. Opioid deaths are dropping across this country.

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