Up First from NPR - Final Campaign Ad Blitz; Political Fights At Work; Deadly Floods In Spain
Episode Date: November 2, 2024We look at the last minute political ads hitting swing states the weekend before the presidential election. We'll also look a at how political divides at work are causing an uptick in workplace incivi...lity and what employers are doing about it. Plus, we'll have the latest from Spain, where deadly floods have ravaged swaths of the country's east.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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Thanks for listening, now let's get back to business. Inundated with millions of campaign ads and hoping it might let up this weekend?
Not a chance.
With three days left before the elections, the final push is real and it is intense.
I'm Scott Simon.
I'm Ayesha Roscoe and this is Up First from NPR News. Campaign ads are everywhere, with each candidate slamming the other on everything from the
economy to immigration and access to abortion.
We'll tell you who they're targeting and in which states.
Plus, finding it hard to focus on work because of these elections?
Your supervisors may have noticed and will
tell you how they're bracing for how you'll cope with the results.
And we'll bring you the latest on the deadly floods in Spain.
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I'm Danielle Kurtzleben.
I cover the presidential campaign for NPR.
So I go to rallies, a lot of them.
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well-informed place at plus.npr.org. Swing states are getting hit hard with a lot of campaign ads.
Maybe you've heard some.
Take it from the people who knew him best.
Donald Trump is too big a risk for America.
Under Kamala, there's been a big hike in Medicare premiums.
And these ads aren't cheap.
Billions of dollars have been spent trying to win what could amount to a small amount
of voters who could make all the difference in this race.
And to our senior political editor and correspondent, Domenico Montanaro joins us now. Domenico, thanks so much for being with us.
Hey Scott, great to be with you. How much money in the swing states do we know?
Oh, it is an incredible amount of money overall that's been spent this cycle. Ten and a half billion dollars
more than ever spent on
political ads. This is for everywhere in the country. That's from campaigns and
outside groups for the presidential race, the competitive House and Senate races,
all the way down to county commissioner races. So, you know, this is all political
advertising wherever you see it on your TV, radio, online, social media, which by
the way has seen a huge investment this cycle. What kind of messages do people see?
Well let's look at the most run ads this cycle to give people a taste of that.
More than $36 million, really a staggering amount for just one ad, has been spent on
this ad.
It's from a pro-Harris outside group FF PAC.
Here's a bit of it which features a Republican who says he voted twice for Trump but is now
switching to Harris.
Kamala Harris is for regular people.
She wants a tax cut for 100 million Americans.
So we keep more of our hard-earned money.
I'm a proud Republican, but this year I'm voting for Kamala Harris.
Certainly a big piece of the Harris campaign has been trying to appeal to disaffected Republicans.
On the Republican side, MAGA Inc., which is the major super PAC supporting Trump, has
had this ad in high rotation. There's about $27 million behind it and tries to frame Harris' time as a prosecutor as too
liberal.
Here's part of that one.
As San Francisco DA, liberal Kamala Harris let killers go free.
And as California Attorney General, Kamala continued to put criminals first.
Don't make America her next victim.
The Harris campaign refutes some of those claims, and it's a bit ironic considering
that she became district attorney running to the middle against a much more progressive
candidate.
But this has been the challenge for Harris in a shortened campaign to try and define
herself amid this barrage of overwhelmingly negative messaging from the Trump side in
the past month.
Domenico, back to that $10 billion number.
For all the races, how much into the presidential race?
Yeah, I mean, only about a third has been on the presidential election, but that's still $3 billion,
which is a massive amount. And it's a lot that's been spent in a smaller number of states. Just
seven swing states have seen three out of every $4 spent. We're talking about Pennsylvania,
Wisconsin, and Michigan, those blue wall states, as well as North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada in the Sun Belt. Overall, though,
23 states have seen more than $100 million in ads overall.
Which states getting the most advertising thrown at it? I could guess, right? Liberty
Bill, Phillies. Yeah. I'm sure no one wants this election to be over more than the good people of
Pennsylvania. The birthplace of American democracy has seen an astounding $1.2 billion spent on it. It's
the first time we've ever seen a single state see over a billion dollars spent in political
advertising. Almost $600 million of that has been spent on the presidential election, which
by the way, Scott, that might be a good opening bid offer to someone like, I don't know, Juan
Soto who might go to the Mets or something.
I'm not sure that'll be enough.
But Pennsylvania's been important for a few cycles, hasn't it?
Does this really increase spending?
Yeah, it has, but the spending this year is almost three times as much as what it was
in 2020.
And the major focus in 2020, if you remember, was Georgia.
It saw about $800 million in total advertising that year, but that's still well short
of what we're seeing in Pennsylvania.
So follow the money here.
The campaigns really see Pennsylvania
as the critical state this year.
And here's Domenico Montanaro.
Thanks so much for being with us.
You're welcome.
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It's been a tense election season and some of us haven't been able to keep that tension out of the workplace.
Yes, that's right.
A human resources group that keeps track of these things reports that major disagreements
over political views have caused a huge increase in workplace incivility this year. NPR's Maria Aspin talked to HR leaders
about what they're preparing for on Tuesday and beyond,
and she joins us now.
Hi, Maria.
Hi, Aisha.
So we've seen lots of disagreement online
and even at polling places,
but what has that looked like at work?
So there are a lot of tense water cooler conversations
at the physical office, but also over Zoom or social media.
In fact, let me play you a clip.
It's getting hot out here.
That's Johnny C. Taylor Jr. He runs a group of HR managers
called SHRM.
We literally are seeing month over month increases
in incivility, and incivility specifically
in response to one's political opinions or one's perceived political affiliation.
And there's a financial cost to all of this tension. Taylor's group estimates
that all of this incivility is costing employers some two billion dollars a day
in lost productivity.
Two billion dollars a day? Is that because workers are ignoring their jobs and just sitting around
arguing about who should be president?
I mean, there's some of that, but it's not just that everyone's arguing. It's about
what happens after you might have a tense confrontation with a coworker.
On average, after an individual
experiences an act of instability at work, it takes them 31 minutes to recover. That impacts
productivity. Aisha, it's worth remembering that we spend about a third of our lives at work,
so it's inevitable that we're going to bring some of how we're feeling into our jobs.
And with a lot of people on edge right now, it's gonna be even harder to stay focused. So what's the answer then? Can employers just tell
everyone to leave the politics at home? This is what surprised me. I thought that
was going to be the advice I got when I started talking to HR leaders. We've
seen some big companies like Coinbase and more recently Google saying exactly
that, telling employees to leave the political debates at home. But that's really hard to enforce in practice.
And some companies are recognizing that. I talked to Melissa Anderson. She oversees HR
for Albemarle, which makes lithium for car batteries.
The best way for them to handle their emotions is to feel like they have a safe place to
talk about it and to be able to engage safely and to feel supported.
So Albemarle has created some employee resource groups and also hosted some internal meetings
for employees to get together and talk about current events that are affecting them.
So as we go into this week, what else can employers do and what can we as workers do? Well, for us workers, I mean, take a breath and remember to treat everyone, including
our co-workers, with respect. For employers, it really varies, and some of it is kind of
extreme. Taylor told me that some small businesses are even canceling meetings on Wednesday and
Thursday so that employees who voted different ways aren't forced to interact. But as you know, it might be days before we know the election results,
months before the inauguration, and we're going to continue to face a lot of other uncertainty
at home and at the office. So in general, whatever your company's policy is about
talking politics or not talking politics, there should be a
policy. If you don't already have one at work, it's still worth starting to think
about it.
That's NPR's Maria Aspin. Maria, thanks so much.
Thank you.
Valencia, a region of eastern Spain, is still recovering from the catastrophic floods that
devastated entire towns on Tuesday night.
At least 205 people have been confirmed dead so far, but rescue and recovery teams are
still working to access all locations and expecting the death toll to rise.
And here's Miguel Macias joins us now from Sevilla.
Miguel, thanks so much for being with us.
Thank you, Scott.
Let's begin with latest.
What authorities are saying about the death tolls?
Well, just last night, the Minister of Interior, Fernando Grande-Malasca said in an interview
that he cannot estimate how many people are missing.
So think about that.
We don't even know the potential magnitude of the tragedy at this point. It's been a few days, how are
rescue efforts proceeding? Slowly. We've all seen the images of cars piled up on
top of each other. It's just shocking. Yesterday speaking to Catena said,
Spanish radio network, Maria Isabel Albalat, she's the mayor of one of the
impacted towns by Porta, said that many
streets were still blocked, so help could not fully access her town.
She's saying that when they get access to locations where one person has been reported
dead, they find three or four bodies.
Albalat says that some people have died inside their vehicles, some people have even died
inside their street level homes, blocked by cars that were swept away by the river or
mud.
Think about this almost as a tsunami, Scott.
This wasn't just water accumulating on the streets.
You can see videos of a wave of brown water advancing
until it turns into a violent river. People are devastated and sometimes also angry at
what they see as a lack of response. And Miguel, what has been the government response?
I understand there's been some controversy over the way people were alerted to the floods.
That's right, Scott. The official agency that oversees weather events started to warn citizens about the
storm as early as Thursday the 24th.
Then they also issued warnings, including a red alert on Tuesday early morning around
7 a.m., but the direct alert to people's cell phones that allowed beeping alert that
came from the regional government of Valencia went went out just past 8pm that night.
By that time, the flooding was up to 2 meters in some areas. This is also rush hour in Spain, so many cars were on the road going back home. In other words, the destruction was going to
happen regardless, but the human toll might have been avoided. Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez spoke
just this morning and said that the government will deploy 5,000 more troops to the region,
5,000 additional police officers. He also said that the government will deploy 5,000 more troops to the region, 5,000 additional police officers.
He also said that the regional government of Valencia in the hands of the opposition
party only has to ask for what they need and the central government will deliver and that
it was time for political unity.
No subsurface message to the conservatives.
Miguel, what kind of reaction are you seeing among the people in the region to this crisis?
We've seen an outpouring of help and solidarity. There has been some looting as well,
but mostly people helping each other. Yesterday was a national holiday in Spain and we get to see some images of hope with thousands of people from Valencia walking to the most impacted areas in the
outskirts of the city to help. I want to leave you with a happy story. Laura Hernandez was driving back from work with her husband
when the flooding started on Tuesday.
Their four children were back at home waiting for them.
Well, Laura and her husband had to shelter
inside an office building as she spoke to Cadena said.
My older one is 17 and the other one is 12.
When they finally reunited, Laura says that their 17-year-old and her 12-year-old could
touch them, hold them in disbelief that the family was finally together after this nightmare.
So here's to more of those moments in The Hours to Come, Scott.
And Piers Miguel Macias, thanks so much for being with us.
Thank you. And that's up first for Saturday, November 2nd, 2024.
Just three more nighty nights until election day.
I'm Scott Simon.
And I'm Aisha Roscoe.
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