Up First from NPR - Gaza Ceasefire, Trump's Middle East Peace Plan, Letitia James Indicted

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

A fragile ceasefire deal is being put to the test as Israeli troops begin pulling back in Gaza. President Trump prepares to travel to the Middle East as the U.S. sends 200 American troops to monitor ...the agreement between Israel and Hamas. And New York Attorney General Letitia James is indicted on federal bank fraud charges, a case brought on after the president publicly called for her prosecution.Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today’s episode of Up First was edited by Rebecca Rosman, Gerry Holmes, Anna Yukhananov, Mohamad ElBardicy and Martha Ann Overland.It was produced by Ziad Buchh, Ben Abrams and Christopher ThomasWe get engineering support from Stacey Abbott. And our technical director is Carleigh Strange.And our Executive Producer is Jay ShaylorLearn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This morning in Gaza, there were no sounds of Israeli airstrikes for the first time in months. President Trump promises a deal he brokered will mean lasting peace. The next 72 hours are key. Why are so many Palestinians skeptical? I'm Leila Faudil, that's A. Martinez, and this is up first from NPR News. President Trump is planning to head to Egypt this weekend, so he'll be there as Israel and Hamas implement the first part of the plan. It's really peace in the Middle East. Now, the deal is still fragile, and there are also questions of what's next and why a small group of U.S. troops are part of that equation.
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Starting point is 00:02:30 We're joined by NPR International Correspondent. I Batrawe in Dubai to explain what's happening. So tell us what the situation now is in Gaza with a ceasefire. Well, this morning, a people in Gaza were actually still being fired on by Israeli troops when they tried to walk along a main road leading from the south of Gaza to Gaza City and the north, hundreds of thousands of people have been displaced in recent weeks from that city. But this is what it also sounded like in the center of Gaza City for the few people who are still there. So what you're hearing there is the sound of an Israeli drone buzzing overhead.
Starting point is 00:03:06 And what that means is Hamas has not yet begun retrieving hostages to release them. It won't do that until the drones stop flying. And the drones are supposed to stop when Israel's military completes a withdrawal from deep inside Gaza to a holding line where they would still control about half of the Gaza Strip. Now, an Israeli defense official told NPR on condition of anonymity in order to speak about the operations in Gaza that the army had started to pull back to that agreed a pine line in Gaza and that it would announce today it has completed that initial bullback. But here's the crucial part. The clock starts ticking on this deal from that moment. Hames has just 72 hours to release the 20 hostages it holds that are believed to still be alive and any bodies in their possession, but there are others they will need more time to find.
Starting point is 00:03:53 And this really kind of points to how delicate these first hours of a ceasefire are, skepticism around whether Trump's plan will lead to a permanent end of the war. Tell us what you know about the details of the deal that was signed last night. Well, there is skepticism because the two previous U.S.-backed ceasefire deals in which Hamas released hostages were broken and we saw Israel return to war. But Trump says this deal is about more than Gaza. He says it's about Mideast peace and he has given his personal guarantees to Egyptian, Turkish and Qatari mediators, and to Hamas, that the release of all the Israeli hostages the group holds will coincide with an end to the war. Now, NPR saw a copy of the first page of this deal that was signed in Egypt last night. Mediators and Hamas confirmed to NPR the document, which is circulating
Starting point is 00:04:39 online, is legit. It refers to this first phase of the deal, which is focused on releasing hostages. But this document states the war will immediately end upon approval by Israel's government, which we know the cabinet did vote on last night. approve in the presence of White House envoy Steve Whitkoff and President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner. But again, this document only lays out details of the first phase of the ceasefire and not what comes next. And that's where there's still a lot of skepticism and details that need to be worked out. Yeah, sure. So a lot of uncertainty over the next 72 hours. What are you looking to see? Yeah, these are very critical next 72 hours. So beyond the release of Israeli hostages and
Starting point is 00:05:19 Palestinian detainees and prisoners. We're also looking to see whether Egypt's border with Gaza opens for heavy machinery to enter. That is going to be needed for Hamas to retrieve some of the bodies of hostages that are buried, I believe, in different parts of Gaza. It's also needed to recover Palestinians from under the rubble of Israeli airstrikes, including one last night just before this deal was signed that struck a residential building in Gaza City. At least 40 people are missing under the rubble of that Israeli air strike rescue crusay. Yesterday, there was also an Israeli soldier killed in North Gaza. So what we're looking to see now is when Israel will allow hundreds of trucks of UN aid into Gaza to reverse severe malnutrition and starvation. That could happen as
Starting point is 00:05:57 early as Monday. Also, President Trump is expected to visit Egypt and Israel on Sunday. And the first hostages and prisoners could be released by Monday. I'm sure we'll check in with you on Monday. And NPR International Correspondent, Ayy, in Dubai. Thank you. Thank you. The U.S. is playing a big role in keeping the ceasefire together as 200 American troops are going the Middle East to oversee the implementation of the deal. President Trump is going to Egypt to cement the deal he brokered between Israel and Hamas, as they're set to carry out the first part of the agreement. I think it's going to be a lasting peace, hopefully an everlasting piece. But senior White House officials are advising that the deal is still fragile and there are still
Starting point is 00:06:38 parts of the plan that could go wrong. MPR White House correspondent Deepa Shibram joins us now. A lot of elements of this plan are still being sorted through. What are officials worried about? Well, good morning, guys. Senior White House officials said yesterday on a call with reporters that there's still a lot of involvement and work to do to make sure there aren't misunderstandings between the two sides. They said this is a very delicate time. There's a short window here where Israeli troops retreat from parts of Gaza, the hostage release and the Palestinian prisoner release is supposed to take place. But the even bigger question is what happens next and what is the U.S. involvement going to look like? And like you mentioned, these officials last night said that the U.S. is sending about 200 troops to the region. They're going to be part of what's called an ISF or an international stabilization force, which was created in part of Trump's peace plan. So their role is oversight to make sure that there aren't any violations of the agreement, according to White House officials. And they'll be working alongside with Egyptian forces as well as forces from Qatar and Turkey and the UAE and keeping those governments as well as the Israeli government
Starting point is 00:07:45 informed about what they're seeing. Will any of those U.S. troops go to Gaza? White House officials said the U.S. forces are not intended to go into Gaza, but they weren't at this point specific about where troops would be stationed. That plan is still being developed. Okay. So in the meantime, what has the president been saying about the arreement? Well, the president's been pretty elated about all of this. He held a cabinet meeting yesterday and talked at length about getting this deal done and repeatedly said that this deal meant peace in the region. It's amazing. I've never seen anything quite like it. I've been very much involved. I've never said anything quite like it. But it's really peace in the Middle East. And speaking of Trump's
Starting point is 00:08:27 involvement, I mean, White House officials said he was involved at many points in the negotiations that he would even call in himself during the talks to talk with some of the interlocutors. I will say, though, that there are some elements of this agreement that are still a little bit unclear. Yesterday, for example, a reporter asked, what would happen if Hamas didn't return all the hostages? Right now, there are believed to be 48 hostages and 20 are believed to be alive. Trump said some of the bodies would be hard to find, but, quote, we're going to do the best we can. And he didn't really get into what the consequences of what might happen. The other thing that Trump is still a little bit in clear on is how Gaza will be rebuilt.
Starting point is 00:09:07 He said that wealthy Arab nations would be part of the rebuilding process. process. But White House officials said yesterday that no financial commitments have been made yet from those nations. Okay. We mentioned earlier the president plans to travel to the region. What do we know about those plans? Yeah. So Trump said that he's trying to leave on Sunday to travel to the region. It's not exactly clear yet where he's going, but he said he'd most likely be in Egypt where those negotiations are taking place. And he was also invited by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to address Israel's parliament, the Knesset. And Trump said he hopes to be there when the hostages are released, which is potentially Monday or Tuesday. So still firming up some of the
Starting point is 00:09:46 details of where and when this trip takes place. But the presence of President Trump on the ground speaks to how much of a heavy hand he's had in this process. Hi, that's NPR's Deepa Shiverham. Thanks a lot. Thank you. The Justice Department followed President Trump's public calls and brought charges against his top rivals. Yeah, New York Attorney General Letitia James was indicted on bank fraud and false statement charges. This comes after the same office indicted former FBI director James Comey. President Trump replaced the top federal prosecutor there with one of his former lawyers. And that's the person who secured this indictment. MPR justice correspondent, Ryan Lucas, joins us now. Ryan, so what more
Starting point is 00:10:34 can you tell us about the charges against James and the prosecutors who are bringing this case on? Well, as Lely just mentioned, James faces two charges here, one kind of bank fraud, one kind of false statements to a financial institution. And the indictment alleges that James bought a house in 2020 in Norfolk, Virginia. But prosecutors say she falsely claimed it as a second residence to get better terms on her mortgage. And the indictment says with those more favorable terms, she would have saved a total of almost $19,000 over the life of the loan. Okay. Now, the indictment was handed up by a grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia. So that's the same place where the former FBI director, James Comey, was on. died it just a few weeks ago. That's right. And there's been a huge amount of turmoil in that U.S. Attorney's Office there in the past few weeks because of the Comey case and this case against James. The career DOJ attorney who had been the top prosecutor there had basically concluded
Starting point is 00:11:21 after lengthy investigations that the evidence in the separate cases against Comey and James was too weak to bring charges. The White House didn't like that. They pushed that prosecutor out. In his place, President Trump installed Lindsey Halligan, an insurance lawyer who had once served as Trump's personal attorney, but she has no prosecutorial exception. experience. Days later, Halligan secured the indictment against Comey, and now a few weeks on, she presented the case yesterday against James to the grand jury. Now, these two indictments against Letitia James and James Comey came after President Trump publicly called on the Justice Department to prosecute them, and that has alarm bells ringing, that Trump is using the Justice
Starting point is 00:11:58 Department, weaponizing it to target his perceived political enemies. Now, nationwide people might know who James Comey is, but maybe not Letitia James as much. So what is Trump's issue with Letitia James. So when James campaigned to become New York's Attorney General, she vowed to investigate Trump. Once she was in office, she did exactly that. Ultimately, she sued Trump and his company for inflating the value of some of their assets. She won that case in court, a massive $450 million judgment, although that financial penalty was later tossed out on appeal. But Trump has repeatedly lashed out at her during the presidential campaign last year. For example, he said that she should be arrested and punished. And then in a social media post last month, Trump urged the
Starting point is 00:12:37 Attorney General, Pam Bondi, to go after James and other political foes saying that they were guilty and that justice must be served. Has James said anything in response to all this? She put out a video on social media. She called the indictment a continuation of Trump's weaponization of the justice system. She also said this. These charges are baseless. And the president's own public statements make clear that his only goal is political retribution at any cost. James said she's being targeted because she did her job as New York State Attorney General. She said she stands behind her office's investigation in the civil fraud suit against Trump. And she said she's not afraid and that she is going to continue to do her job.
Starting point is 00:13:14 That's NPR justice correspondent. Ryan Lucas. Ryan, thanks. Thank you. And that's up first for Friday, October 10th. And I'm Leila Faudil. President Trump campaigned on a promise of mass deportations. And since he took office in January, ICE have carried out some dramatic and shocking raids to try to meet that.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Go. Things have shifted in a way, unlike anything I've seen in the 20 years that I've been doing this work. This weekend on the Sunday story from Up First, how immigration enforcement is changing under the Trump administration. Listen to the Sunday story right here in the Up First podcast. Today's episode of Up First was edited by Rebecca Rossman, Jerry Holmes, Anna Yukoninoff, Mohamed El Bardisi, and Martha and Overland. It was produced by Ziat Butch, Nia Dumas, and Christopher Thomas. We get engineer support from Stacey Abbott and our 10th. Technical director is Carly Strange. Our executive producer is Jay Shaler.
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