Up First from NPR - House Shutdown Vote, Aviation Challenges, USS Ford In Caribbean
Episode Date: November 12, 2025House Republicans say they have the votes to end the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, a vote today could send the bill to President Trump’s desk by nightfall. The FAA warns that flight d...isruptions will continue even after the government reopens, as air traffic controller shortages strain the nation’s aviation system. And the U.S. deploys its largest aircraft carrier to the Caribbean, escalating tensions with Venezuela.Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today’s episode of Up First was edited by Jason Breslow, Russell Lewis, Andrew Sussman, Mohamad ElBardicy, and Alice Woelfle.It was produced by Ziad Buchh, Nia Dumas and Lindsay Totty.We get engineering support from Stacey Abbott. And our technical director is Carleigh Strange.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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Good morning.
How goes it?
It's going okay.
You know, we're in a different studio today.
There was a technical issue, and so we're in Studio 32 instead of 31.
It looks the same from my end, though.
It is designed to be an identical studio.
A little more to the right?
This studio is a little more to the right.
I see.
Our critics will be pleased.
Thank goodness.
They finally moved a little to the right.
Republicans promised Democrats to vote on health care.
subsidies. Republicans are also making demands of their own calling for restrictions on
abortion. As a shutdown ends, how will lawmakers work through policies that affect
millions? I'm Steven Skeve with A. Martinez, and this is up first from NPR
News. The FAA director says the agency is keeping flight restrictions in
place as they deal with controller shortages. The shutdown is going to make
that more difficult for us to accomplish that goal. Okay, how long will it take for
the aviation system to recover. And President Trump sends the military's largest aircraft carrier to
the Caribbean and posts it a $50 million bounty on Venezuela's president. Is it just a show
for force or is the U.S. preparing for war? Stay with us. We've got all the news you need to start
your day.
Today, the Republican-led House returns to take up legislation that would end the longest
government shutdown in U.S. history. Republican leaders are confident they will have the votes
to approve it. In a sense, then, the action here is on the Democratic side. Many Democrats are
upset with this deal and with a handful of their Senate colleagues who voted for it. MPR congressional
correspondent, Claudio Celes, has been following this. So what, 43 days of a shutdown. Is this the
end? Is this over with now? It truly could be. House lawmakers will be back in town today for the first
time since House Speaker Mike Johnson let them go home in September before the shutdown even began.
House Rules Committee met for more than seven hours last night, and they moved this bill to
the floor just a few hours ago. And that sets the stage for a final vote later tonight. And as you
will recall, this deal came together after a group of Senate Democrats broke ranks to vote with
Republicans to end the government shutdown, and they sent this bill to the House. Now, the package
includes a stopgap measure to fund the government at least through the end of January with
full-year appropriations plans funding some of those federal agencies and services.
The thing is that Senate deal does not include anything about extending the health care subsidies
that Democrats were dug in on. So what did they get instead? Right. Exactly. That was a key
demand from Democrats. And this deal doesn't address that. Instead, they secured a promise for a vote
in December on health care and a commitment to negotiate a plan to address those subsidies. Those who
broke with the party, and the Senate said they got the best deal possible, and that includes
those full year appropriations plans, which were negotiated between the parties over several
months. Meanwhile, other Senate Democrats who voted no argued they weren't making good to reopen
the government in exchange for addressing these expiring Affordable Care Act subsidies, that's
spiking premiums. So those who are upset, it carries over to the House, and the fury is only
worse there, where we expect most Democrats to vote no on this plan. Several progressives,
for example, have called for Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer to be ousted from his leadership
role, even as he voted no on the plan. And last night, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries
dodged a question on this with reporters in terms of Schumer's role. And so a reminder of the
party's really struggling to reconcile the various factions around this deal.
The promise to vote in December on the Affordable Care Act subsidies, what might come out of
that. Well, we could see a deal come out of that possibly, but it's a very tall order. It's going to be a
really difficult negotiation for Congress, especially in these ultra-partisan times. And we already
know that Republicans have demands on ACA reforms that many Democrats won't be able to stomach,
such as installing new restrictions for care related to abortions. And even if it can pass the Senate,
it's not clear Speaker Mike Johnson will bring it up for a vote in the House. But we do know
Democrats have warned if Republicans do not hold up their end of the deal and negotiate a plan to extend these subsidies, they will hold Republicans' feet to the fire when most of the government's funding ends January 30th under this current plan.
So it could be something we're still talking about comp next year and into the midterm elections.
And we'll be here for all of it.
That's NPR's Glaudezis.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
All right.
Even if the U.S. government shutdown ends this week, flight disqualification.
disruptions are likely to linger.
Airlines have canceled thousands of flights, as you may have heard, to comply with an order from
the Federal Aviation Administration to keep the skies safe, and airlines are expecting to cancel
thousands more by this weekend as air traffic restrictions ramp up.
MPR transportation correspondent Joel Rose is here. So, Joel, where do things stand with these
air traffic reductions? Yeah, not only are they still in place, but as we heard, the cuts are
actually increasing. The FAA ordered airlines to cut 10 percent.
of air traffic at dozens of major airports. So airlines happen gradually building toward that
target. The FAA says it is dealing with persistent shortages of air traffic controllers and that this
step was necessary to relieve the pressure on controllers who are coming to work. Air traffic
controllers, of course, don't get paid until the shutdown ends, and they have now missed
two full paychecks. Some have taken on second jobs, and many have called out sick during the
shutdown. Over the weekend, dozens of facilities reported staffing shortages leading to some of the
worst delays since the shutdown began. Staffing levels did improve yesterday with only a handful of
facilities reporting shortages. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy called that a good sign, but he said
these restrictions will remain in place until regulators are satisfied that staffing is back to
normal levels. And has Duffy given any indication on when those restrictions could be lifted?
No. Duffy spoke yesterday at a press conference at O'Hare Airport in Chicago, and he declined to give
any kind of timetable for when these restrictions could be lifted. Instead, he painted a picture of
more chaos in the aviation system if lawmakers do not vote to reopen the government.
If this doesn't open, you might have airlines that say, we're going to ground our planes.
We're not going to fly anymore. That's how serious this is. You may find airlines that stop flying.
Full stop. I should note that so far no airline has said that, at least not in public.
Duffy also said controllers would get some of the money that they're due quickly when the
government reopens, a big chunk about 70% of that within 48 hours, he said. But even so, Duffy says,
it may take time for staffing levels to recover. So on the airlines, how quickly can they get
back to a normal flying schedule? That is another challenge. Airlines will likely need a few days
to get back to their full schedules. Randy Babbitt is a former administrator of the FAA. He spoke
yesterday on NPR's All Things Considered, and here's some of what he said. The airplanes are in the
wrong cities and so forth, they're going to have to sort all of that out as well. So a good
deal of responsibility will be the carriers getting their schedules and the aircraft and personnel
back in the right positions to resume normal flying. An airline industry trade group, Airlines for
America, also said there could be residual delays for days even after the government reopens.
Why did the Trump administration decide to put these restrictions in place when it did?
There has been debate around whether this is really all about safety, as the administration says, or about politics.
To the Trump administration's critics, the timing of the move appears to be political.
Some Democrats say that Duffy's increasingly dire predictions about the air traffic system seem calculated to raise the pressure on them to vote to reopen the government.
Secretary Duffy rejects the charge that this is about politics.
He says the administration is responding to real safety concerns, including complaints from pilots,
an increasing loss of separation between aircraft and flight.
The air traffic controllers union says, you know, the controllers are the rope in this political
tug of war, that the pressure on stress on them keep mounting, and some are just opting out.
Secretary Duffy says that 15 to 20 controllers are simply retiring every day during the shutdown.
That's MPR's Joel Rose in Washington. Joel, thanks.
You're welcome.
Okay, we have some idea of the force the United States is massing in or near the Caribbean Sea.
We do not have a clear idea of what the U.S. plans to do with it.
The world's largest aircraft carrier, the Gerald R. Ford, is now in the area covered by the U.S. Southern Command.
Now, that's the part of the world that includes Venezuela.
In recent weeks, U.S. forces already in the region have opened fire on small boats killing at least 76 people.
And the U.S. is saying that they were smuggling drugs, though any evidence of that is really at the bottom of the sea.
Does the United States have some larger plan?
Quill Lawrence from NPR's national security team is going to work through the evidence for us.
Quill, good morning.
Good morning.
What does an aircraft carrier have to do with stopping drugs?
This isn't how the U.S. has ever fought against narco-trafficking in the past.
I'm just blowing boats out of the water.
Then with the Secretary of Defense sharing a grainy video on social media about it,
declaring them terrorists and enemy combatants,
we're going to have to see whether this has a deterrent effect on these many small boats carrying relatively small
months of drugs. We think. Yeah, there are, I mean, facts reported by our colleagues, first of all,
that overdose deaths in the U.S. have dropped significantly last year from a high several years
back. The drug that has been killing these Americans is fentanyl, which mostly crosses in from
Mexico by land. The boats that the U.S. is destroying off Venezuela, and as you said, the evidence,
we don't have it, but if they were carrying drugs, former official that has spoken with, say that
those roots from Venezuela mostly carry cocaine for Europe, not the U.S. I was recently at a discussion
with a former leader of U.S. Southern Command Admiral James Trevrides, and he was very blunt.
This is not about drugs. He said it's about intimidating Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro.
Oh, that's very interesting. Well, then what is an aircraft carrier going to do about Nicolas Maduro?
It's just another asset in what's now an armada in the Caribbean, maybe 15,000 U.S. troops.
The U.S. has posted this $50 million bounty on Maduro.
U.S. bombers have flown over. President Trump has talked openly.
about attacks on land in Venezuela and mentioned possible CIA operations in that country.
There's speculation that this could be just a push to get someone in Venezuela to come out
and claim that $50 million.
There's speculation about a full-scale invasion or direct strikes against Maduro.
We don't know Congress doesn't really know either.
The briefings have been very scant.
Last week, a measure to require the Trump administration to get a legal declaration of war
failed in the Senate, although a couple of Republicans did join in pushing for some sort of
of law. Well, let's think about that for a second. In recent decades, it has not been that common
for administrations to go to Congress in a formal way before acting, but sometimes they have
tried to build some international support, make a case for intervention, line up allies. Is the
U.S. doing any of that? No, this administration has really made no effort to win over the world
or the region, and these killings have strained relations with what has been America's
strongest ally in counter-narcotics in the region, the Colombian military, which
The U.S. has been building and training for decades.
These killings of citizens from countries in the region
might also put U.S. troops in legal jeopardy.
Some international jurists say that U.S. military actions here are illegal,
and there could be warrants out for the arrest of some of these officers
who ordered the strikes.
A U.S. four-star Admiral Alvin Halsey, who was overseeing these strikes,
abruptly resigned last month two years early,
and congressional and Pentagon sources say they believe it's because he objected
to these strikes on these alleged drugboats that, and this is crucial for the laws of our armed
conflict, the people on these boats were showing no hostile intent. They maybe weren't even
armed when the U.S. military killed them.
Well, we'll keep listening for your reporting. Quill, thanks so much.
Thank you.
That's Quill Lawrence of NPR's National Security Team.
And that's up first for Wednesday, November 12th. I'm E. Martinez.
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