Up First from NPR - Hundreds Die In Gaza Hospital Attack, Biden Visits Israel, Arab Protests

Episode Date: October 18, 2023

Hundreds of people are dead after an explosion at a hospital in Gaza. Israeli and Palestinian officials are trading blame over who's responsible for the deadly attack. President Biden arrived in Israe...l on Wednesday morning. There he wants to show solidarity for Israel and prevent any further escalations. And pro-Palestinian protests have erupted across the Middle East following the hospital bombing in Gaza. Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter. Today's episode of Up First was edited by Peter Granitz, Tara Neill and HJ Mai. It was produced by Mansee Khurana, Kaity Kline and Lindsay Totty. We get engineering support from Stacey Abbott. And our technical director is Zac Coleman.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hundreds of people are dead after an explosion at a hospital in Gaza. Palestinian officials blame Israel for the deadly incident, but Israel says it was a terror group. So who is actually to blame? I'm Ian Martinez, that's Michelle Martin, and this is Up First from NPR News. President Biden arrived in Israel this morning. There he met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Biden wants to show solidarity for Israel and prevent any further escalations. Can he do that while also pleading for more humanitarian assistance? And pro-Palestinian protests have
Starting point is 00:00:35 erupted across the Middle East following the hospital bombing in Gaza. Jordan's foreign minister says the war between Israel and Hamas is pushing the region to the brink. Stay with us. We'll give you the news you need to start your day. Now Our Change will honour 100 years of the Royal Canadian Air Force and their dedicated service to communities at home and abroad. From the skies to our change, this $2 commemorative circulation coin marks their storied past and promising future.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Find the limited edition Royal Canadian Air Force $2 coin today. Israeli and Palestinian authorities are trading blame over just who is responsible for the strike that killed hundreds at a hospital in Gaza. That's right. Doctors there tell NPR they are still uncovering more bodies this morning. The incident has also led to massive protests across much of the Arab world. Joining us now with the latest is NPR's Ruth Sherlock from Tel Aviv. And I'm going to let you know that from what I understand, some of the details will be very disturbing for some to hear. Ruth, that being said, what are you hearing about this attack? Good morning. Well, yeah, this was a massive explosion at the Baptist Al-Ahli Hospital.
Starting point is 00:01:55 It's a Christian hospital and one of the oldest in Gaza. I reached Dr. Fadl Naim, so he's the orthopedic, the head of the orthopedic unit there. And he's still there because he says that there are injured patients that still need to be evacuated. He was in the operating room when he heard this huge explosion and people flooded and wounded. It's a bad phone line, but he tells me he ran outside and found the area full of injured and dead. We tried to help who we can help. Some some people died in his hands. Many had lost limbs and the doctors
Starting point is 00:02:34 were using whatever they had on them, bandages, their clothes, to try to stop the bleeding. And like you said, you know, we don't know the full death toll, but it seems in the many hundreds. Dr. Naim says they're still finding new dead, including bodies flung in the force of the blast onto the roof of the hospital. We found one baby on the roof of the hospital. A baby? Yeah, many children. He says with this being a hospital and a Christian one at that, people believed that it was maybe the safest place in Gaza. Ruth, what do we know about just who is responsible for this?
Starting point is 00:03:26 Well, you know, like you said, both sides are trading blame. Israel says it was the result of a failed rocket launch by Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The Israeli Defense Forces are putting out some footage and a recording they claim is a conversation between a Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad official allegedly talking about the misfire. But I should say, you know, really clearly, NPR cannot independently verify any of this. And we do know from past wars that there have been Palestinian rockets that have fallen short inside Gaza. But at the very same time, you know, this hospital said just a few days ago that it was hit by Israeli rocket fire just a few days ago. And this is all happening amid intense fighting. You know, there's 3,000 Palestinian people killed, according to the Ministry of Health. 1,000 of those kids,
Starting point is 00:04:11 10,000 people have been wounded. So Ruth, I mean, and of course, you've been reporting on, and you among others have been reporting on just the humanitarian situation there before this attack. So I can only imagine that this terrible incident is just adding even more pressure to the humanitarian needs there. Right. One of the head of the main hospital says that, you know, Al-Shifa says they're going to run out of fuel today. Taps are also running dry in Gaza because there's no fuel for desalination plants. People are struggling to find drinking water. Much of the population is fleeing south, but with nowhere to go. The border with Egypt is still closed. And Gazans I speak with say at this point, nowhere
Starting point is 00:04:50 feels safe. That is NPR's Ruth Sherlock. Ruth, thank you so much. Thank you. Ruth is in Tel Aviv and President Biden has just landed there. And this comes as protests against Israel's actions spread across the Middle East. The protests were sparked by a deadly explosion at a hospital in Gaza. He had to call off a visit to Jordan. And his message in Tel Aviv will be much more about safeguarding civilians in Gaza. The world's looking. Israel has a value set like the United States does and other democracies. And they're looking to see what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:05:26 NPR's Michelle Kellerman is with us now from Amman, Jordan, to talk about the trip she's been traveling with Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Michelle, good morning. Good morning, Michelle. So what is the U.S. saying about that explosion? Well, President Biden said he's deeply saddened by the death toll, but he said that judging from what he's seen, and these were his words, it was done by the other team, not you. He said that while he was sitting alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. As you heard from Ruth, Israeli officials say that this was a rocket launched by Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The Palestinians say it
Starting point is 00:06:02 was an Israeli airstrike, and they're demanding an end to the Israeli bombardment. You also have the UN condemning this attack and calling for a humanitarian pause. Up to now, the U.S. has not pushed for a ceasefire. U.S. officials say Israel has the right to go after Hamas after that unprecedented attack a week and a half ago. Netanyahu called the attack pure evil and said the world should unite behind Israel to defeat Hamas. Not to minimize in any way the atrocities committed by Hamas in southern Israel a week and a half ago, but the situation inside Gaza is indeed terrible. What is President Biden and other Western leaders saying about that or trying to do about that? Yeah, Secretary Blinken has been in the region and in the run-up to this visit to Israel. He's
Starting point is 00:06:51 been trying to negotiate a deal with Israelis to allow aid into Gaza and to set up safe areas for civilians. There's a lot of pressure now on the U.S. and Israel to make that a reality. But remember, Gaza is a tiny territory with 2 million Palestinians, and there's really nowhere safe to go, as we've been hearing in our reports. Most people don't have access to water or electricity. They're desperate for help. Israel has been blocking aid, fearing that it will be stolen by Hamas or benefit Hamas, which, by the way, is still holding nearly 200 Israeli hostages, including some Americans. And that, Michelle, is adding just another layer of complexity to all of this.
Starting point is 00:07:31 As I mentioned that you are in Jordan, which has been a very close Arab ally of the United States. What are you hearing there and what are the other Arab states saying about this conflict? Well, Egypt's president told Secretary Blinken a few days ago that he thinks Israel has exceeded its right to self-defense, that this is now looking like collective punishment against the Palestinian people. He was due to come here to Jordan to meet with President Biden, along with Jordan's King Abdullah and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. That summit has now been called off because of the explosion at the hospital. Abbas, who has a house here in Jordan, returned to Ramallah in the West Bank where there have been protests against him and against the Israeli campaign in Gaza. Things are really, really tense now. What does President Biden think he can accomplish there? He's really trying to
Starting point is 00:08:22 contain this conflict, but there are a lot of concerns about the violence spreading, not only concerns about Hezbollah in Lebanon to the north of Israel, but also about these growing protests in the region. That is NPR's Michelle Kellerman. She's traveling with the U.S. Secretary of State, and she's in Amman, Jordan. Michelle, thank you. Thank you. As Michelle just mentioned, the bombing of a hospital in Gaza has sparked fury across the Arab world. And Amman Jordan security forces tear gas protesters trying to reach the Israeli embassy. And that is where we have NPR's Jane Araf. Jane, good morning to you. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:09:00 You were at the protest. Can you tell us what you saw? Sure. When I got there, people were leaving because security forces were pushing them out. But there were still about a thousand people, most of them young men wearing Palestinian flags. The tear gas was hanging in the air and ambulances were coming and going. The riot police had kept the protesters away from the embassy, which is, as you would imagine, heavily fortified, but not before some of them set fire to some tires nearby. Now, protests here aren't unusual. The majority of Jordanians are originally Palestinian.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Their families were forced from their homes in the West Bank during the wars with Israel. And among East Bank Jordanians, there's a strong affinity for the Palestinian cause. But this protest felt different. I spoke to one of the protesters, Omar, a 22-year-old engineering student, who told me why he had come. It doesn't mean anything. He just came here to witness the genocide in Palestine. There he's talking about what he thought Biden would accomplish if he came here. But he also said that he was spurred to come because he saw the bombing of the hospital in Gaza on TV, which is a big reason a lot of them came.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Another young man told me he and his friends came because the world had forgotten about Palestinians. And that's a key part of the anger here. There are millions of Palestinian refugees who have languished for decades. And there's a feeling that it can't go on like this. How is the government of Jordan responding? Well, they're deeply worried, as you saw with the cancellation of the summit with President Biden. And here's what they're worried about mostly. It's that having taken in waves of refugees from Palestine and other places, they fear that more Palestinian refugees could be pushed into Jordan because there has been
Starting point is 00:10:54 an Israeli thought that perhaps Jordan is the alternate Palestine, which of course Jordan rejects and Palestinians reject. Egypt has much the same fears, by the way. It fears that Palestinians from Gaza would be pushed into Egypt. And that's basically the bottom line. So what you have are people who are trapped with nowhere to go and countries that want to help them but can't take any more of them. They also don't want to see Palestinians giving up their land. That would make it even harder for them to come back. And I think we also need to say that both Egypt and Jordan, like a lot of countries in the region, they're having tough times to begin with. Severe economic hardship, widespread discontent. What about elsewhere in the Arab world? Well, in Ramallah, as we heard, Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian Authority president, returned to be greeted by hundreds of protesters.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And it's a sign that although the catalyst for the protests last night were what's happening in Gaza and the hospital bombing, there's also a vein of all sorts of other resentments. This one, lack of leadership. And people are using the opportunity to come out and show their anger. That is NPR's Jane Araf. Jane, thank you so much. Thank you. And that's Up First for Wednesday, October 18th. I'm Michelle Martin.
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