Up First from NPR - Israel-Hamas Deal, Black Friday Shopping, Atlanta Police Facility Controversy

Episode Date: November 23, 2023

Israel says the release of 50 hostages in Gaza in return for 150 Palestinians will not start before Friday. Retailers forecast a record numbers of shoppers over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend. Prote...sters rally against a new, police training facility in Atlanta.Up First is produced by Ana Perez, Claire Murashima, and Chad Campbell. Our editors are Michael Sullivan, Emily Kopp, Susanna Capeluto. We get engineering support from Gilly Moon, Phil Edfors, and Kwesi Lee. And our technical director is Stacey Abbott.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A deal between Israel and Hamas has been delayed and will not start before Friday. That means families continue an agonizing wait. Because our people in Gaza, they are suffering from now 47 days. How are they coping? Ami Martinez, this is Up First from NPR News. There are the best of deals and the worst of deals. However you feel about the busiest shopping day of the year, Black Friday is set to again break records. I do think ultimately people will still spend.
Starting point is 00:00:32 People are employed, wages are good. If they're working, they feel like they can buy gifts. So what's on our wish list and how are we paying for it all? Protests continue over a police training facility near Atlanta, but construction is already underway and a petition to get voters to weigh in is stalled in court. We'll hear why officials still support the project. Stay with us. We've got all the news you need to start your day. Now Our Change will honor 100 years of the Royal Canadian Air Force and their dedicated service to communities at home and abroad. From the skies to our change, this $2 commemorative circulation coin marks their storied past and promising future.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Find the limited edition Royal Canadian Air Force $2 coin today. Israel says the deal to implement a four-day pause in fighting in Gaza has been delayed until Friday at the earliest. So that means Israel continues to strike Gaza in an attempt to destroy Hamas, and families on both sides have to wait to bring their loved ones home. We're joined now by NPR's Lauren Frayer in Ramallah in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. Lauren, what's holding up this agreement? Well, Israel's national security advisor says talks with Hamas are still progressing and that the release of hostages held in Gaza and Palestinian detainees held in Israel will not take place, as you mentioned, before tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:02:02 He didn't give an explanation for the delay. The deal, as we understand it, is this, a four-day pause in fighting, 50 hostages released by Hamas in stages, like one batch per day, and 150 Palestinian prisoners and detainees released from jails in Israel. Now, just to note, this isn't a published document. So we're relying on both sides to describe what they have agreed on. And there could be discrepancies. For example, last night in a speech, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the International Committee for the Red Cross will visit all of the hostages inside Gaza and deliver medicine. But today, a Red Cross spokesperson told me the group isn't aware of any such agreement to do that. It's ready to do so if called upon, though. So that means it's got to be pretty stressful for a lot of people. What kind of things are people saying? Yeah, I mean, for families of hostages kidnapped in Israel on October 7th,
Starting point is 00:02:54 they're like on tenterhooks waiting for this release. Here's a man named Nimrod Shakar. My colleague Brian Mann met him in a Tel Aviv square where protesters have gathered. And he's angry at the Netanyahu government for not getting a deal to free all of the roughly 240 hostages. The majority of the Israelis will demand this from our government and we don't care what are the means to get this deal. Meanwhile here in the West Bank, I've been meeting families of some of those 150 Palestinian prisoners and detainees who are slated for release. Most of them are from the West Bank and Jerusalem. They're mostly teenage boys, a few teenage girls and several dozen adult women,
Starting point is 00:03:37 some of whom have been in Israeli jails for years. But any homecoming preparations here are really muted because of the toll that this war has taken just south of here in Gaza. I spoke this morning with a woman named Sahar Hantouli. She's a French and English teacher here in Ramallah, and she said she's been in agony. Because our people in Gaza, they are suffering from now 47 days. There are murders there physically, and there are martyrs here psychologically. Meanwhile, an Israeli military spokesperson says forces continue to bomb Gaza, some 300 targets there in the past 24 hours. He says they're using ground forces, drones,
Starting point is 00:04:19 and precision-guided missiles. Israel says this is all aimed at destroying Hamas. Lauren, this deal isn't in trouble, is it? I mean, it's hard to tell. Like, it's not unusual for temporary ceasefires to be delayed or to falter once they do start. There are a lot of details to work out. As I mentioned, the discrepancy over what Netanyahu said last night and what the Red Cross is saying today. I mean, remember that the Hamas leadership is still believed to be underground in tunnels under Gaza. And negotiators that I've spoken with have told me this requires passing notes like down through the tunnels, then up to Gaza above ground
Starting point is 00:04:58 out to Egypt, and to negotiators in Qatar and the US and in Israel. And so not only did it take time to get this deal, weeks of negotiations, but it takes time to negotiate the implementation of all of the details to work it out. That's NPR's Lauren Frayer. Lauren, thanks. You're welcome. Maybe you roll your eyes when you hear about Black Friday and lots of people think it's overhyped, but it still is the busiest shopping day of the year as it kicks off the holiday shopping season. So what are we buying and how can we afford it? NPR's Alina Selyuk is here. Should we be expecting massive crowds, Alina? Should I stay home? What should I do? That is your personal choice, but I do think you should expect a fair bit of crowds. Definitely a lot of folks shopping
Starting point is 00:06:01 online. The vast majority of Americans say they plan to shop on Black Friday. Over the long weekend, if you think through Monday, we're actually expecting 182 million shoppers. And that's according to Catherine Cullen at the National Retail Federation. Just for context, that's actually the highest we've seen since we started tracking it this way in 2017. In other words, that's more people shopping than ever between now and Cyber Monday, which means I get to sound like a broken record because I seem to say this every year. But this holiday, we're on track to set a shopping record. Retailers are forecasting that spending will grow. It will grow a bit slower than we saw
Starting point is 00:06:44 during the pandemic boom, but in line with the decade prior. And an average shopping budget, according to the National Retail Federation, is around $875. That's for gifts, decorations, other holiday stuff. And that's slightly more than last year. All right. So typically around this time, Alina, my eyes and desire are bigger than my budget. Any great deals out there? You know, these are the best prices of the year. That is why people roll their eyes and still shop.
Starting point is 00:07:13 The last couple of years, we did see inflation, higher prices, put a damper on holiday discounts. But I've got good news for you. This year, Adobe Analytics, which tracks online prices, is predicting that we will hit a high mark on deals. They're saying discounts will be as high as 35% off between now and Cyber Monday and as high as 16% off in the weeks to follow. All right. So what am I getting in debt for? I think probably a lot of classics. If you're like other folks in this country, you might be buying lots of clothes and toys. Those are the top.
Starting point is 00:07:44 That's me on toys. Most popular ones are Legos, Hot Wheels, cars, Barbies, other dolls. Lots of nostalgia for us adults out there. And there is a new theme this year. Maybe this one's for you. A record number of folks are saying they're planning to splurge on personal care items, like makeup, beauty, other personal care stuff. And I do want to give a shout out to
Starting point is 00:08:05 gift cards. They're a popular gift. If you've ever felt bad about buying one, I know I always do. Well, surveys every year find that gift cards are the most common thing people say they actually want to receive. And slightly more personal than just cash, I think. Just a little bit. Just one step up from that. They're almost the same thing. Yeah. All right. So Alina, are our wallets ready for all this? You know, shoppers all year have been saying that they are tightening their belts. We're talking about inflation, prioritizing food and necessities. But we've also seen people, you know, they're still traveling, they're eating out a lot. And there is, I think, a high chance folks will feel like, you know, tis the season to splurge and celebrate. I talked to Katie Thomas. She runs the Carney
Starting point is 00:08:48 Consumer Institute. It's a think tank inside the consulting firm Carney. And here's what she said. I do think ultimately people will still spend. People are employed. Wages are good. If they're working, they feel like they can buy gifts. She's mentioning their unemployment remains near record lows. Wages have been growing. Also, inflation has cooled off and some prices are actually declining. But there is another side of the story, which is that we're shopping a lot on credit. More people are starting to fall behind on credit card bills, especially folks in their 30s. And so Thomas suspects lots of people will spend through the holidays and face the consequences in 2024. Yeah, that's next year. That's NPR's Alina Selyuk. Alina, thanks. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:39 In Atlanta, a new police training facility is being built on 85 acres of wooded land. Protesters have long railed against the plan. More than 60 people have been arrested this year during protests. Some have been violent, and some protesters are now charged with racketeering. Some are also facing domestic terrorism and money laundering charges. Atlanta's mayor and Georgia's governor still support the training facility, and a petition to put the training center's funding on the ballot is stalled in court. We're joined now by Shemaine Cruz of WABE in Atlanta, who's been following this story. So what exactly do the protesters want and why? Well, Abe, for more than two years now, protesters, and that includes environmentalists and anti-police groups,
Starting point is 00:10:21 they've been saying that they fear the state of the art facility will further militarize police from around the country who come to train here. And they say that construction is going to exacerbate environmental damage in this low-income majority black area. So while you have some groups who say that the facility should just be built somewhere else where it isn't in people's backyards and destroying valuable green space in the community. You also have some people who don't want this facility to be built at all. And protests have only intensified and they gained national attention after state troopers shot and killed a protester at the site in January. And then recently, a special prosecutor announced that he would not be bringing charges against those officers involved.
Starting point is 00:11:06 He said that he found their use of deadly force was objectively reasonable. And this comes, as he said earlier, while dozens of protesters are facing racketeering and domestic terrorism charges. So protesters have also been calling on those to be dropped. Yeah, and despite all this, the mayor of Atlanta, the governor of Georgia, they've still stood behind the project. Why is that? City officials say the training center is needed to improve things like de-escalation training, to boost morale, and to recruit and retain more officers. The Atlanta Police Department is still about 500 officers short. And so quite frankly, they say that they are simply spending too much money right now having to rent other facilities or that they're training in parking lots of old
Starting point is 00:11:50 shopping centers or abandoned schools with mold and other problems. The city also already owns this land where the center is being built. And once it's completed, it's supposed to have like walking trails for the community and a place for them to keep their horses and canines, as well as a mock city where officers can train on how to conduct raids, which is why protesters call this project Cop City. Just last week, protesters set several cement trucks on fire owned by a company working on the project. But Atlanta Police Chief Darren Sheerbaum said that despite this type of action, the project is still on track to be completed in December of next year.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I saw that organizers delivered 116,000 signatures to City Hall to get a rare ballot measure started that would ask Atlanta voters to weigh in on whether they want the facility. Where does that stand? Well, yes, they submitted the signatures to City Hall in late September, but they've just been sitting there ever since because almost immediately, city officials refused to begin verifying them until a judge rolls on whether they're even valid. So there's a court hearing scheduled for next month where we should find out more. That's Shemaine Cruz with WABE. Thanks a lot. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:28 In Niagara Falls, New York, two people were killed Wednesday after their speeding vehicle crashed into a busy border checkpoint causing an explosion. New York Governor Kathy Hochul says there were no signs that it was a terrorist attack and emphasized that the investigation is still in early stages. The Rainbow Bridge checkpoint was damaged and remains closed. This is one of the busiest crossings, not just in western New York, but along the entire U.S.-Canadian border. And it happens on the busiest travel day of the year. So naturally, in a time of heightened alert, everyone's spring into action. Security footage shows a white vehicle speeding toward the toll booths before swerving off the road and flying several yards into the air.
Starting point is 00:14:07 It crashed into a Customs and Border Protection booth and then burst into flames. A Customs and Border Protection worker was treated for minor injuries. The identities of the two people in the car have not yet been released. There's more on this story at NPR.org. And that's Up First for Thanksgiving Day, Thursday, November 23rd. I'm E. Martinez. Up First is produced by Ana Perez, Claire Murashima, and Chad Campbell. Our editors are Michael Sullivan, Emily Kopp, and Susanna Capilouto.
Starting point is 00:14:37 We get engineering support from Gilly Moon, Phil Edfors, and Kweisi Lee. And our technical director is Stacey Abbott. And as always, start your day here with us tomorrow. And you can listen to this podcast sponsor free while financially supporting public media with Up First Plus. Learn more at plus.npr.org. That's P-L-U-S dot N-P-R dot org. Thank you.

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