Up First from NPR - Israel To Allow Limited Humanitarian Aid, Gaza Hospital Explosion, Jordan Loses Votes
Episode Date: October 19, 2023The war between Israel and Hamas has killed more than 4,000 people - making it the deadliest of all Gaza wars. And things could get even worse once Israel's expected ground invasion begins. Some Weste...rn countries are calling for an investigation into the explosion at a Gaza hospital that killed hundreds of people. And Congress remains paralyzed because for the second time Ohio congressman Jim Jordan failed to secure enough votes to become House speaker. Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter. Today's episode of Up First was edited by Peter Granitz, Andrew Sussman, Kelsey Snell and HJ Mai. It was produced by Mansee Khurana, Kaity Kline and Lindsay Totty. We get engineering support from Stacey Abbott. And our technical director is Zac Coleman.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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This latest war between Israel and Hamas has killed more than 4,000 people, making it the deadliest of five Gaza wars.
And things could get worse once Israel's expected ground invasion begins. We'll hear what the situation is now in Gaza.
I'm Michelle Martin, that's A. Martinez, and this is Up First from NPR News.
Some Western countries are calling for an investigation into the explosion at a Gaza hospital that killed hundreds of people.
Israeli and Palestinian officials are blaming each other for the incident that has led to mass protests across Arab nations.
So what do we know about what really happened?
And Congress remains paralyzed because for the second time, Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan failed to get enough votes to become House Speaker.
Where does this leave his bid for the gavel?
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Western leaders are showing unified support of Israel in its war against Hamas.
Yesterday, U.S. President Joe Biden visited Tel Aviv and met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his war cabinet.
This morning, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak landed in Israel.
The visits followed nearly two weeks of war since Hamas launched a surprise attack that killed at least 1,400 people.
Israel has retaliated with airstrikes in Gaza and has killed
thousands more. For more, we're joined by NPR's Zaya Batraoui in Jerusalem. So it was a whirlwind
visit for President Biden. What are the main takeaways? Well, there are three. The first was
affirming again his unwavering commitment to Israel's security. Biden met with grieving families
and first responders in Tel Aviv. He acknowledged the pain here and said the scale of those October 7th attacks for a country
the size of Israel was like 15 September 11th attacks.
And then that leads really to the second takeaway, which is he also had words of caution for
Israel.
There are diverse opinions here about Israel's treatment of Palestinians and the war, but
there's also widespread anger and a feeling that Israel's survival is dependent on wiping
out Hamas. but there's also widespread anger and a feeling that Israel's survival is dependent on wiping out
Hamas. So President Biden said he understood there must be justice, but he also said, quote,
while you feel that rage, don't be consumed by it. After 9-11, we were enraged in the United States.
While we sought justice and got justice, we also made mistakes. And he followed that by also saying
that the vast majority of Palestinians
are not Hamas. And the timing of all of this was less than 24 hours after a catastrophic blast at
a hospital in Gaza where thousands of people were sheltering. The Palestinian health ministry says
around 470 people were killed in that blast. Many, if not most, were children. Israel blames an errant
militant rocket, but Palestinians and the rest of the Middle East, including the governments here, say it was Israel. And so the suffering of Palestinians in Gaza is on
display every day that this war continues. And that leads to the third takeaway from Biden's
visit. He got Israel's war cabinet and the prime minister to agree to let some humanitarian aid
into Gaza. Yeah, that's right. So when might that get in? Biden says it could get in Friday.
Israel bombed the roads leading to Gaza's border crossing with Egypt,
where a huge convoy of aid trucks is ready to go in.
So those repairs on those roads could happen today.
But Biden says it will only at most be 20 trucks at first,
and the UN will do the distribution inside Gaza.
And he warned that if any of that goes to Hamas, the aid will stop.
Israel also says this aid is only for southern Gaza.
So Gaza's biggest hospital and everyone in the north might not get any of this aid.
And Israel did not say if fuel could enter. So that means hospital generators could still shut
down. The only electricity for most people in Gaza now is coming from generators. I talked to
Tasneem Ahad in Gaza City where Israel told people to evacuate. She says there's nowhere else to go.
The south in these so-called safe zones aren't safe either. NPR's producer down there saw kids being pulled from the rubble of
their homes in recent days. But let's listen to what Ahil told me about how hard things are.
The last time that the drinking water is yesterday in the morning. Everything here is getting worse.
Every day, every day is harder than the last. There is no place here in Gaza we
can go. You know, we keep saying Israel's expected ground invasion of Gaza. Now that the president
has come and gone, when might that happen? Well, there are hundreds of thousands of reservists
that have been called up at Israel's border. But in recent days, Israel has indicated there may or
may not be a ground invasion. I think there's real fears this could lead to heavy losses among
Israeli soldiers and intractable situation in Gaza, and that this could also
draw other militant groups and engulf the region. That's NPR's Aya Batraoui in Jerusalem. Thank you.
Thank you. We stay in the Middle East with the ongoing dispute over who was responsible for
that deadly explosion at the Gaza City Hospital on Tuesday. That's right. More information about
the incident is emerging,
but it's far from conclusive, and the Israelis and Palestinians are still blaming each other.
Here to break it down, we're joined by NPR national security correspondent Greg
Myrie. Okay, the explosion, Greg. How much do we know about what happened and what caused it?
Well, there are photos, videos, eyewitness accounts. Me and my NPR colleagues have been going through all the available evidence.
But what we don't have yet is clarity.
Photos show an explosion, Doug, a relatively small hole in the concrete in the parking lot of the Ahli Arab Hospital.
A couple cars were destroyed.
Fire burned several down to the metal frame.
The hospital has broken windows, pockmarked walls, and some missing roof tiles.
But the hospital didn't suffer any real structural damage.
A Palestinian doctor there at the time of the explosion spoke to NPR and described a horrific scene with many people killed just outside the hospital.
But he said no one was killed inside the hospital, just a few people wounded. You said outside the hospital. Why were there so many people
outside of the hospital? Well, you know, of course, the hospital is full of patients wounded
in the war, so relatives and friends were present, but many other Gazans, several thousand,
came to the hospital grounds hoping it would be a safe place to shelter. A large group was gathered in
the courtyard at the time of the blast, according to multiple witnesses there. Okay, so all the
people who died were outside of the hospital. Does any of this provide any clues to who may
have fired this weapon? Well, nothing for certain, but weapons experts say that the limited size of
the blast in the parking lot suggested a smaller weapon was used.
So that could be a rocket fired by the Palestinians.
Also, videos show a large fireball at the moment of impact, which could be rocket fuel that ignited.
The Israelis say a militant Palestinian faction, Islamic Jihad, not Hamas, fired 10 rockets toward Israel. They say one of those rockets
misfired and crashed into the hospital grounds, and that's the cause of all these casualties.
And Palestinians, I would assume, are not going with that version, right?
Absolutely. They say Israel has been striking almost every corner of Gaza with relentless
airstrikes that have killed many civilians and that this was just part of that
bombing campaign. Now, we should note that Israel airstrikes are often conducted with very powerful
bombs and missiles, and they tend to leave very large craters that can take down a large section
of a building, and in some cases, an entire building itself. But Israel also has smaller
weapons in its arsenal, so it's not yet possible to rule in or rule out all the various possibilities here.
Yeah, and during his visit to Israel yesterday, President Biden said that he supported the Israeli version of events.
So what reason, Greg, did he give?
Right. The president said that this was based on information he received from the Pentagon, but neither he nor the Pentagon provided any details.
President Biden said he, again, thought it was an errant Palestinian rocket. And at the White House,
the National Security Council said in a brief statement that it appeared Israel was not
responsible based on the intelligence available at this point, but they stressed that they were
still looking for further information. All right, that's NPR's Greg Myhre. Thanks for sorting this
out. Sure thing, A. It's deja vu all over again in Washington.
The House of Representatives again held a vote to elect a new speaker.
And again, Republican nominee Jim Jordan failed to secure the votes to get the gavel.
And the Ohio congressman actually lost support on yesterday's second ballot.
Twenty-two Republicans voted for someone else. That's up from 20 on Tuesday.
NPR congressional correspondent Deirdre Walsh joins us now. Deirdre,
kind of like watching Groundhog's Day, right? I mean, it kind of feels that way.
Do you think anything will change today? Will the House finally elect a speaker?
We could see that same movie again. I mean, a third ballot for speaker could happen later today,
but right now no Republican has the 217 votes needed to be elected speaker.
There's no sign that any of the 22 members in that GOP group that voted against Jordan
are going to change their votes. One of them, Arkansas Republican Steve Womack,
predicted a third ballot would get, quote, a lot worse for Jordan.
And, you know, there's been some real blowback to the strategy of Jim Jordan's allies trying
to wear people down and get them to vote for Jordan.
It's really backfired. And even last night, Congresswoman Marionette Miller-Meeks
from Iowa, who supported Jordan on the first ballot but voted against him on the second, denounced the tactic from Jordan's allies and actually shouted out fellow members of Congress denouncing them.
She said she received death threats and said, one thing I cannot stomach or support is a bully.
Jordan condemned the threats, but some think he's not doing enough. A lot of these holdouts say this pressure campaign from right-wing media targeting lawmakers,
flooding their offices with calls is a reason why the resistance is hardening and perhaps expanding.
Are talks getting any more serious about Democrats maybe working with Republicans
in a kind of a power-sharing agreement?
There are some who are pushing this idea that Patrick McHenry of North
Carolina, he's the speaker pro tem who's presiding over the election, could get new authority to do
things like bring up bills to avoid a shutdown later, to approve aid to Israel. A growing group
of Republicans say it's important now to have a temporary speaker, at least for some period of
time, so the House can function. McHenry insists he's focused
on getting a Republican majority to elect a Republican speaker, but he seemed to crack the
door open to his role maybe changing. Obviously, this is unprecedented, what we're dealing with.
My role here is to be determined, but I've constructed that as narrowly as the rules
say I should. And we can't transact business until we elect a speaker.
But any resolution to do this would have to pass the House with Democratic support.
The minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries, says he's open, but the details would still have to be
worked out in terms of how long McHenry could serve and what he could do.
Now, I know President Biden is going to address the nation from the Oval Office tonight and ask
for money for wars in Ukraine and Israel. What does this dysfunction in the House, Deidre, mean for Congress approving
those requests? I mean, the hurdle is just that much higher. Without a speaker, nothing can happen.
There is broad bipartisan support for approving money for Israel and for Ukraine. Senate leaders
from both parties want to tie them together. But Jim Jordan and a lot of
other House Republicans voted against any more money for Ukraine. That's a big reason why some
Republicans who support aid continuing or running out are more openly talking about this idea of
installing a temporary speaker. That's NPR's Deirdre Walsh. Thanks for keeping up with us,
Deirdre.alsh, thanks for keeping up with us. Saga, Deirdre. Will do. Thanks.
And that's Up First for Thursday, October 19th. I'm A. Martinez.
And I'm Michelle Martin.
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