Up First from NPR - Middle East Tensions, South Carolina Primary, Ohio Toxic Train Derailment

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

President Biden sanctions Israelis for violence in the West Bank. What can turnout in today's South Carolina Democratic primary tell us about the general election in November? One year after a train c...arrying toxic chemicals derailed in East Palestine Ohio, some residents are still putting their lives back together.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning. Good morning. It's a girl party. Girl party. It's a girl party. No disrespect, but it's a girl party. Hi Barbies. President Biden announced sanctions against four Israeli settlers accused of violence and intimidation against Palestinians. Can the move help prevent more violence in the West Bank or is it mostly symbolic? I'm Leila Faldin, that's Michelle Martin, and this is Up First from NPR News. South Carolina holds its Democratic primary tomorrow. With Biden all but assured to get the nomination, what's motivating voters to head to the polls this time around? And will the turnout tell us anything about November's general election? Plus, one year after a toxic train derailment, some residents of East Palestine, Ohio are still putting their lives back together.
Starting point is 00:00:49 President Biden plans to visit the town soon. What message will that send? Stay with us. We'll give you the news you need to start your day. Now Our Change will honor 100 years of the Royal Canadian Air Force and their dedicated service to communities at home and abroad. From the skies to Our Change, this $2 commemorative circulation coin marks their storied past and promising future. Find the limited edition Royal Canadian Air Force $2 coin today. The U.S. often criticizes Israeli settlement activity in the West Bank,
Starting point is 00:01:29 but it rarely takes action. But now President Biden has sanctioned four Israeli settlers in the Israeli-occupied West Bank who are accused of violence against Palestinians. This comes against a backdrop of the ongoing Israel-Hamas fighting in Gaza and efforts to work out a temporary ceasefire. For a closer look at this, we're joined by NPR's Greg Myrie in Tel Aviv. Greg, hello. Hi, Michelle. So President Biden has issued this executive order against Israeli settlers in the West Bank.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Could you just tell us what the significance of this is? So it's mostly symbolic, but it is symbolism that reflects this growing U.S. frustration with Israeli policies. This executive order names these four Israelis. They're accused of violence against Palestinians in the West Bank. It's a chronic problem, and it's been on the rise. Our NPR colleague Daniel Estrin spoke with one of those sanctioned, Yanon Levy, who has a farm in the West Bank. So he's saying that it's hard for him to believe this. It sounds very strange, but he'll check it out. And he says he employs 15 Palestinian workers and that he actually
Starting point is 00:02:38 claims to have good relations with them. So Levy also says he has no financial assets in the U.S., no plans to travel to the U.S., so it seems it's mostly about the U.S. sending a public message of disapproval to Israel. And Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says his government is dealing with this issue, though in general his government is extremely supportive of the settlers. So let's turn to Gaza now. What are the latest developments in the fighting there? Yeah, Israel's defense minister, Yoav Galant, went into southern Gaza yesterday to the city that's been the main battleground, Khan Yunus. He declared Hamas forces had been defeated there, and his visit seemed to support his claim. He also said Israel will push further south,
Starting point is 00:03:22 all the way to the border of Gaza, specifically the town of Rafah on the border with Egypt. And this can really pose some complications because so many Palestinian civilians are crammed into southern Gaza, specifically Rafah. But Galant certainly gave the impression the Israeli military remains on the offensive. So what does this mean for these efforts to work out a temporary ceasefire in Gaza? Another one. Yeah, Michelle, there's both ongoing fighting and ongoing efforts for a ceasefire. Hamas says it's studying the proposal. We're expecting to hear from them fairly soon. This plan could include a ceasefire that might last for up to several weeks, with Hamas releasing some Israeli hostages and Israel freeing some Palestinian prisoners.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Now, we should note the working assumption is that Hamas leaders in Gaza are in tunnels beneath Han Yunis or in that area. We can't independently confirm this, but it's quite possible the Hamas leaders are looking at this ceasefire plan below the city while Israeli troops are above ground in the city. So with Israel claiming these advances, how would you describe the fighting strength of Hamas at this point? Hamas is still fighting back, and it's inflicting casualties on Israeli troops. The group also still has its tunnel network in southern Gaza, which allows it to ambush Israeli forces on occasion. But Israel says it has eliminated many Hamas commanders, and the group is not fighting in cohesive units. It's more small-scale, guerrilla-type operations. Also, Hamas rocket
Starting point is 00:04:52 attacks into Israel have dropped off dramatically. Hamas fired thousands of rockets in the early days of the war back in October. A volley of about a dozen rockets was directed at Tel Aviv on Monday, and Israel shot them down. And I only mention this because it was the first rocket attack on the city in weeks. That is NPR's Greg Myhre and Tel Aviv. Greg, thank you. Sure thing, Michelle. We've been closely following the Republican presidential primary contest, so it's easy to forget that there is also a nominating process happening on the Democratic side, too. Yeah, the first where President Biden will actually be on the ballot happens tomorrow in South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Joining us now to tell us more about this is Mayan Schnechter with South Carolina Public Radio. Mayan, good morning. Good morning. So President Biden is the incumbent Mayan, good morning. Good morning. So President Biden is the incumbent, obviously, pretty much unopposed. So going into tomorrow, expected to win. So what will you be looking at once the results are in? And while you're at it, Mayan, why don't you just remind us about why South Carolina is going first this time around? This is new. Sure. So a year ago, the Democratic National Committee, with President Biden's backing,
Starting point is 00:06:03 of course, voted to put South Carolina first. It's a nod to the state's diversity, specifically those black voters here who make up about two-third of the Democratic Party base, much higher, of course, than other early voting states like Iowa and New Hampshire. What I'm really looking at on Saturday is turnout. And within that turnout, who shows up and who doesn't show up as they did perhaps maybe four years ago. And I'm watching that turnout for two reasons. One, it could counter this narrative we've heard a lot from either polls or pundits that
Starting point is 00:06:35 people in the president's own party just aren't energized this election cycle to back Biden. The other part is that leaders really want to show off this race, especially to doubters in other states that South Carolina truly deserves to stay first and especially go first in 2028, where, of course, the stakes may be even higher. So it's important for the party. It's important for the DNC to tell everyone, hey, look, South Carolina is diverse. South Carolina does back Biden. And we are the best state to look at where Democratic voters, particularly Black voters, are today. So say more about that, if you would, because as you said, like back in 2020, Black Democrats in particular in South
Starting point is 00:07:14 Carolina were credited with saving Biden's campaign when, you know, people voted for him there or really pushed him ahead of other strong primary challengers, at least people who looked like they were strong. Could you just say a little bit more about the diversity of the state? Sure. You know, South Carolina is one of the top fastest growing states in the country. It's still very white, higher than 60%. But African Americans here make up about 26% of the state's population, which is almost double what it is nationally at nearly 14%. And black voters here do make up a majority
Starting point is 00:07:46 of the state's Democratic Party, as I said earlier, accounting for somewhere around 60% of the base. And that's three times higher, actually, than the percentage of black Democrats who voted in 2020, according to Pew Research. So as you've been speaking to voters, what's motivating them to vote? Everyone has their own personal motivator. What I hear a lot from voters are kitchen table issues like health care. You know, for instance, I've talked to people who are maybe diabetic or they know someone who's diabetic. And so that $35 insulin cap has been super helpful. That's a concern for so many black South Carolinians here.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And that's actually a personal story for Congressman Jim Clyburn, whose late wife was diabetic. There's also Democratic voters who are super motivated after the Supreme Court, which obviously has a conservative tilt because of Trump's nominees. They're very unhappy with the court unwinding abortion rights and what that's meant for states. South Carolina has a six-week ban. But I will say the overwhelming reason and frankly, the biggest concern I hear from a lot of voters is just Trump. They see Trump as undoing a lot of the good that they say Biden has been able to achieve. And as briefly as you can, what are some of the hesitations people in Biden's party have about him there? Right. Age, not listening to their generation, exhausted by another Trump-Biden rematch, and also Israel's war in Gaza are the top issues I hear. That is Mayan Schechter with South Carolina Public Radio.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Mayan, thank you. Thank you so much. Tomorrow is the one-year anniversary of a toxic train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio. Yeah, many residents of the small town say the accident, all these months later, is still impacting their lives. Oliver Morrison of Member Station WESA has been reporting on the derailment and its aftermath. He's here with us now to tell us how the town is going. Welcome, Oliver. Thank you. So I think a lot of people may remember some really frightening images from there. I'm thinking about that plume of toxic chemicals spewing into the air. Have those chemicals been cleaned up? The train company has dug up more than 175,000 tons of soil and processed more than 40 million gallons of water. It's now starting to backfill the empty
Starting point is 00:09:56 holes with uncontaminated soil. There are a couple of streams that go through town that have an oily sheen when you kick up dirt on the banks, but the Ohio EPA says they're cleaning that up and that'll last through the summer. Are residents there still worried about the impact of these chemicals on their health, and are those worries valid? At least 50 families never return to town because of worries about things like bloody noses and irritated eyes. Most people in town I talked to who once had symptoms told me that those symptoms subsided after a few months, and the EPA currently says it's safe. But many residents are wondering about the long-term impacts on their health, and there still has not been a comprehensive effort to track those. Norfolk Southern says they're still developing a plan to compensate residents for long-term health issues.
Starting point is 00:10:38 So besides concerns about health, which are of course important, how is the town doing? Well, most business owners say their businesses have fallen off, and that includes things like salons, restaurants, and a local greenhouse. Here's Don Elzer, who owns several businesses in town. Our manufacturing sector, I think, is doing very well, but that doesn't rely on people coming to town. So they're doing fine. It's more the retail that's having a problem. Elzer says the village's reputation as a toxic town is still hurting. The village has just begun a marketing campaign Elzer says the village's reputation as a toxic town is still hurting. The village has just begun a marketing campaign paid for by the train company to turn around this image, but this has created some divisions in town because some residents are still saying loudly that it's not safe while others are trying to get out the message that it is.
Starting point is 00:11:17 We talked about compensation for long-term health effects earlier. You know, has any compensation come from Norfolk Southern given that, you know, this did cause big financial problems for the town and for residents? Well, the biggest expense has been their cleanup, but they have paid for the housing costs for residents who were displaced. That program is coming to an end this week, but it's also one of its biggest things was committing $25 million to refurbish the village's park, and that included a new pool, an amphitheater, and pickleball courts that are coming. The company also set up a program to reimburse homeowners whose homes sell for less than they are worth.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And I did talk to several realtors in the area who say that the village's homes are selling again. And President Biden said he was planning to visit East Palestine this month. Do we know why he's traveling there now? Well, a senior White House official told me that one of the reasons is the mayor of East Palestine, Trent Conaway, finally sent him a formal invitation. The mayor had criticized Biden last year for visiting the Ukraine instead of East Palestine, and he gave a warm welcome to Donald Trump and discouraged Biden from visiting. But a couple of weeks ago, the mayor did formally invite Biden. Conaway's tune changed because he said he thinks a visit from Biden could help get the word out that the town is safe to visit again. That's Oliver Morrison with Member Station WESA in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Oliver, thank you. You're welcome. And that's Up First for Friday, February 2nd. I'm Michelle Martin. And I'm Layla Faldin. Today's episode of Up First was edited by Jerry Holmes, Padma Rama, Cheryl Corley, and Alice Wolfley. It was produced by Ziad Butch, Ben Abrams, and Ana Perez. We get engineering support from Phil Edfors, and our technical director is Stacey Abbott. Join us again on Monday. And don't forget, Up First airs on Saturday, too. Ayesha Roscoe and Scott Simon have the news. It will be here in this feed or wherever you get your podcasts.

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