Up First from NPR - Tensions Within Israel, NATO and Ukraine, Bridge Collapse Prevention
Episode Date: April 4, 2024A key member of Benjamin Netanyahu's war cabinet says Israel should set a date for elections. NATO is marking 75 years since its founding — and it remains an alliance that worries about Russia. And ...an NPR investigation asks why Baltimore's Key Bridge didn't have more protection from passing ships.Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today's episode of Up First was edited by Mark Katkov, Nick Spicer, Barrie Hardymon, Alice Woelfle and Ben Adler. It was produced by Ziad Buchh, Ben Abrams and Kaity Kline. We get engineering support from Stacey Abbott, and our technical director is Zac Coleman.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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A member of Benjamin Netanyahu's war cabinet says Israel should set a date for election.
Israelis have resumed their protests against the government,
so how much time does the prime minister have before he faces the voters?
I'm Leila Faldil, that's Steve Inskeep, and this is Up First from NPR News.
NATO is turning 75 after the Cold War. Some questioned if it might no longer be needed.
Now, with Russia's invasion of Ukraine, new countries are seeking its protection.
NATO represents the freedom to choose.
Is Ukraine the next to join?
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Polling in Israel shows two things. Israelis overwhelmingly support the country's war goal of destroying Hamas,
and Israelis overwhelmingly disapprove of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Now, another Israeli leader is calling to set a date for elections. Benny Gantz leads an opposition
party and also regularly faces the prime minister as part of the war cabinet. Polling shows Netanyahu
would lose to him. NPR's Jennifer
Ludden is covering this from Tel Aviv. Hi there, Jennifer. Hi. Okay, so for those who don't follow
this every day, what makes Benny Gantz an especially significant figure to be calling for elections?
Well, for starters, he's the most popular politician in Israel, and the one who polls show
if there were elections would beat Netanyahu handily. Remember, Netanyahu's coalition depends on far-right partners.
Gantz was brought in as a kind of moderating influence and to instill more public trust.
He's a retired general, a former chief of the military general staff.
Now, to be clear, Gantz is not leaving the National War Cabinet.
He says he wants the whole government to agree to hold elections in
September. But this is a big blow for Netanyahu. It's coming on the heels of the largest
anti-government public demonstrations since Israel invaded Gaza.
Although we should note Netanyahu has survived indictments, election defeats,
elections that didn't work out. He is a survivor. So how's he responding to this?
You know, even before this, when
protesters were mounting demonstrations in front of the Knesset here at the parliament,
he said, look, early elections, that would paralyze the country for months. He argues a
campaign would stall negotiations on releasing more than 100 Israeli hostages that are still in
Gaza, and that it would set back the military's efforts to rout Hamas.
But a lot of Israelis hold Netanyahu personally responsible for failing to anticipate the Hamas attack, which Israel says killed 1,200 people. Israel's military response has killed more than
33,000 people in Gaza, mostly women and children, according to the health ministry there.
And I just want to note one other big issue that is simmering here.
Ultra-Orthodox Jews in full-time religious study are exempt from military service.
This is infuriating for many Israelis, especially with the country at war.
But ultra-religious parties are a key part of Netanyahu's coalition, and so far he has not challenged their exemption.
Okay, you're talking about some of the domestic political disputes in Israel. There
is also international outrage over Israeli airstrikes that killed aid workers, seven aid
workers with the charity World Central Kitchen. What are Israelis doing about that? So Israel has
repeated that, look, this was tragic. It says it was unintentional, and it's conducting a thorough
investigation. We're also now hearing from World Central Kitchen's founder, Jose Andres.
He says, look, Israel targeted his group's three-car convoy, which was spread out over more than a mile.
Here he is talking to Reuters.
This was not just a bad luck situation where, oops, we dropped the bomb in the wrong place or no.
This was a very defined humanitarian convoy that had signs in dropped the bomb in the wrong place or no, this was a very defined
humanitarian convoy that had signs in the top, in the roof. And you know, look, Andrei says he
hopes Israel didn't certainly intend to hit humanitarian workers. And let's just recall
that the World Central Kitchen was bringing this food in by sea because Israel has limited the
amount of trucks that can bring it in. Israel's Defense Minister Yoav Galant had an overnight call with his U.S. counterpart. He says Israel will expand the influx and distribution of aid in Gaza,
and we'll just have to see exactly what that means.
And Piers, Jennifer Ludden in Tel Aviv, thanks so much.
Thank you. NATO is marking 75 years since its founding.
It started as a U.S.-led alliance to protect European allies against the Soviet Union,
and today it remains an alliance that worries about Russia.
The alliance has grown from just a dozen members in 1949 to 32 today,
including Sweden, which is attending its first meeting as a full member
this morning. Terry Schultz is covering this moment from Brussels. Hi there, Terry.
Good morning, Steve. How is NATO marking 75? Well, there have been some commemorative events
at NATO headquarters. For example, here's what the NATO hymn sounds like, which was played this morning to kick off the ceremony.
But given the state of global affairs, I wouldn't say there's a very celebratory air. It's pretty solemn. Center stage was given to countries which joined in the last couple of decades,
some of which were forcibly occupied by the Soviet Union for more than half of NATO's 75
years of existence, as they dreamed of being part of the West.
And you can hear that in the words of Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski.
When NATO was founded, my country, Poland, was trapped on the wrong side.
Communist Soviet domination meant that if it came to war, Polish soldiers would have had to obey the orders of our enemies
in order to fight our friends. And ministers of other countries that felt trapped behind the
Iron Curtain expressed similar feelings and gratitude at being protected by the military
alliance now. In those years, it was obvious what the purpose of NATO was. Then the Soviet Union fell. You know
this history. And Russia seemed less of a threat, even seemed like it was joining the Democratic
Order. And people wondered if there was any point in NATO. I assume that recent events have shown
the relevance again. Sure. We heard a lot of those comments in years past. And I don't think this is
the way anyone would have wanted it to happen. but it's certainly the case that NATO has become more important again. And you don't need to look
any further than the latest two countries which joined NATO, Finland last year and Sweden just
last month. They would have remained neutral or militarily non-aligned had Russia not launched
this full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022. I lived many years in Finland in the 90s, and you
couldn't even bring up membership
in NATO, much less hear Finnish diplomats criticize the Kremlin. But now listen to
Finnish Foreign Minister Elina Valtonen arriving for today's ceremony.
NATO represents the freedom to choose. And I think that is very well manifested in the fact how
Sweden and Finland, the most recent members, joined NATO. Just recently, democratic nations, the free people, chose to join,
unlike how Russia expands by aggression or by illegal annexation.
Well, when you say aggression or illegal annexation,
that takes you right to Ukraine.
Any chance, any way that Ukraine could join NATO?
Yes, there is a chance, and Ukraine has been promised it will
join NATO, Steve. But what it would really like is to be offered that opportunity at NATO's summit
in Washington coming up in July, and that's not going to happen. What ministers will discuss today
is a new five-year plan and a 100 billion euro fund to try to reassure Ukraine while it waits
for that offer. Terry Schultz, thanks for your insights. Really appreciate it.
Pleasure, Steve.
Terry Schultz is in Brussels for the 75th anniversary of NATO.
Okay, last week's collapse of a Baltimore bridge demonstrated a reality of harbors. Ship happens. That's ship
with a P. Thank you. When you put a bridge in the water, a boat may strike. That's predictable.
The key is to design in enough protection. And NPR's investigations team found that Baltimore's
key bridge had less protection than bridges do at many other American ports. NPR's Kiara Eisner has her findings. She's here in our Studio 31. Good morning.
Good morning, Steve.
Okay, so what are the protections supposed to be?
They're called dolphins. Yes, they are named after the marine mammal.
And the Key Bridge has four of them. There are two on either side of it.
And they've worked well in the past. In 1980, a ship hit one of them
and it crashed into it, destroying the dolphin,
but saving the ship.
That's what's supposed to happen.
They're supposed to divert ships
from hitting the bridge itself.
Okay, so it's like a concrete island
that's supposed to keep a ship away
from the bridge support.
Why did that not work this time around?
Well, this time the pilot lost control of the ship.
It lost power. He had trouble
steering and they didn't hit the dolphin itself. The ship narrowly missed it. And if you look at
photos from the wreckage right now, you can see the ship is right next to one of those dolphins
and it looks absolutely tiny compared to it. I talked to some engineers to ask them what they
thought of that. Here's Roberto
Leon. He's a structural engineer at Virginia Tech. The bridge didn't stand a chance. You needed more
and bigger ones is really the point. And I don't think that that was going to stop anything except
a very small boat. He said that other bridges have larger dolphins and more of them, like six to
eight. Okay, so in this case, the ship, huge as it was, went around the barrier.
But what do you see when you compare the Key Bridges protections with those of other ones?
So the Key Bridges dolphins were small, and dolphins are unattached to a bridge.
That's not the norm everywhere.
Other bridges have other kinds of protections.
In the 15 busiest ports, we found that many of the other bridges were protected by things like islands of rocks, fenders, beds of concrete.
Those were attached to the central beams.
They didn't have dolphins that were just floating in the water.
Can you give us an example then of what one of those other 15 bridges looks like?
Sure.
There is a bridge in Philadelphia.
It's called the Betsy Ross Bridge.
That's structured the same way and built around the same time as the Key Bridge.
That one does have four dolphins, too, but they look bigger.
My co-reporter Caitlin Thompson and I showed imagery of both bridges to Dr. Kim Roddis, an engineering professor at George Washington University.
She said the dolphins around the Betsy Ross Bridge were larger and, quote, definitely more protective than the Key Bridge. Okay, so now we have a question of history. Why would the Key Bridge, built also on the East Coast
around the same time, have so much less protection? We asked the Maryland Transportation Authority for
a comment, and they did not get back to us. We do know that there have been some repairs to both
the bridge and its dolphins, but when we reviewed satellite imagery and nautical
charts from the 70s, it looks like those repairs did not include any significant enlargement of
the dolphins. They look about the same as when they were first put in. Of course, it's easy to
look back now and say they should have done that. But the engineers we spoke with said states face
tough choices on expensive infrastructure upgrades. Here's Dr. Radice. It's in a very
tight part of the harbor, so you can see why they have reasons not to have included it.
It wasn't something that was required at the time, and it's not something that people regularly
go back and reevaluate. States tend to invest in problems that seem more urgent, like those
potholes that the construction workers were fixing when the bridge went down. Oh, they could have
been focusing on dolphins. Kiara, thanks so much. Thank you, Steve. That's NPR's Kiara Eisner of our
investigative team. And that's a first for this Thursday, April 4th. I'm Steve Inskeep. And I'm Leila Faldil. Your next listen is Consider This from NPR.
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