Up First from NPR - The Sunday Story: The Promise of America's Natural Gas

Episode Date: August 4, 2024

The U.S. is the largest exporter of natural gas in the world. And Louisiana's Gulf Coast is where much of America's natural gas is piped in to be liquified for export.Over the last twenty years, liqui...fied natural gas (LNG) has been heralded as a clean and efficient "bridge fuel" for nations transitioning away from coal and oil, towards a future of renewable energy. But the promise of LNG has not reflected reality. In today's episode of The Sunday Story, WWNO reporters Halle Parker and Carlyle Calhoun talk about the impact of the LNG export industry on Louisiana's Gulf Coast. And they follow the supply chain of LNG all the way to Germany and Japan.To hear more of Halle and Carlyle's reporting on LNG, listen to their three-part series, "All Gassed Up," on the podcast Sea Change from member stations WWNO and WRKF.Part One: The Carbon CoastPart Two: The German ConnectionPart Three: The Sugar Daddy of LNGLearn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a Sunday Story. I'm Aisha Roscoe. What if I told you that the U.S. is the largest exporter of natural gas in the world? It started with the fracking boom in the mid-2000s. We, it turns out, are the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. We've got a lot of it. A lot of it. Enough to export. Before NPR, I spent six years as an energy reporter, and a big part of my job was covering the promise of natural gas. And we all know this fuel. It's
Starting point is 00:00:36 what you might use to cook your food or to heat your house. There's a form of this gas called liquefied natural gas, or LNG. And that's when you take natural gas and supercool it, reducing its volume to a much smaller size, which makes it possible to load bridge fuel for the U.S. and the world, taking us closer to a future reliant on renewable energy. It's been heralded as safe, clean and efficient. Today on the Sunday Story, we look at what that promise has meant for one community in Louisiana where much of the LNG export industry is based, and how the promises of LNG have not reflected reality. I'm joined by two reporters based in New Orleans, Hallie Parker and Carlisle Calhoun. In their recent series, All Gassed Up, they follow the journey of LNG from the Gulf Coast and on to Europe and Japan, where much of that gas ends up. Our conversation when we come back. Trials in multiple states, state and federal
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Starting point is 00:02:51 We're back with the Sunday story. I'm here with reporters Hallie Parker and Carlisle Calhoun from WWNO. Welcome to the program. We're happy to be here. Thanks so much for having us. So I know that Louisiana has always been a state with pretty close ties to the oil and gas industry. I mean, there's lots of, you know, offshore drilling and things of that nature.
Starting point is 00:03:15 But can you give me a sense of like what's going on now with, you know, with LNG? You call it an LNG frenzy. Like, how is this different? Or what's happening? Yeah, so in the last few years, Louisiana has really become ground zero for the buildout of LNG. You know, three of the country's eight LNG export terminals are here, and almost a dozen more are potentially on the way. And that's all happening super fast. Yeah. And talking to Hallie about this issue, we were just struck by how massively this industry is growing in our backyard. And after kind of digging in, we realized that this is both a local and a global story because Louisiana really has become one of the biggest players in LNG in the
Starting point is 00:04:02 world. Yeah. And you mentioned Ayesha, Louisiana has been an oil and gas state for such a long time. So those close ties to the industry really set up Louisiana to capitalize on this growth of LNG. Also, just geographically, Louisiana is in a good position. First, this natural gas gets fracked out of the ground in places like West Texas or northwestern Louisiana. And then that gas is piped down to export terminals along the Gulf Coast, where it's loaded onto these giant ships and carried to consumers across the world. Let's start with the local side of this. In your series, you really focused on one area.
Starting point is 00:04:40 It's a place called Cameron Parish. What's it like? Cameron Parish. It's this incredibly rural place. And you're really just struck by these fields of green meadow and marsh. You actually have to be pretty careful. I had to be careful when I was driving down there because of just the abundance of birds flitting through. It's this huge migration area. Historically, this was a place where it had one of the largest fishing industries in the U.S., and there still is a large fishing community there, looking for shrimp and oysters and all of that good stuff. Now, the other major industry is oil and gas. You know, if
Starting point is 00:05:19 you look out into the Gulf, you can still see some of the oil platforms, and the industry has had a presence here for over a century. So it's kind of the community's go-to when it comes to jobs. And then a few years ago, Cameron Parish got a huge offer. This company called Venture Global LNG announced it was going to build a massive export terminal on the Gulf there. And there were these big promises made about all the benefits it would bring. Jobs with high salaries. They said they were committed to protecting the environment and, you know, investing in the community. And this was all part of a promise to be a good neighbor. And it sounded really good.
Starting point is 00:05:59 They even told the public about this big plan to build a marina to serve the area. And these were all things that this struggling parish could not afford. Yeah. So these promises sound really good. This particular LNG terminal that was built in Cameron Parish, can you describe it for me? Yeah. So it's called the Calcasieu Pass Terminal. And Hallie was saying, you know, Cameron Parish is this really rural, flat place. And so you're driving through just marsh and open space, and this facility just appears out of nowhere and dwarfs everything
Starting point is 00:06:30 else. It's spread over a thousand acres right on the water, just huge concrete structures and pipes and also enormous LNG tankers docked in front. But probably the best person to answer this question is this guy named John Allaire, who we spend a lot of time with in the series. He's a retired environmental engineer. He actually used to work for BP and other oil and gas companies. And he retired to what he calls his paradise. You know, I love it. My whole family grew up here. But now the Calcasieu Pass export terminal sits less than a mile away from his home. And John has a lot to say about how life has changed.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I mean, it's just, it looks like you're looking at Las Vegas. So there's a tremendous amount of light pollution. There's the noise. You can smell it. And you can, you know, it just makes it hard to breathe. It's way different than it was three or four years ago before all that was there. It's not what it was, but I would imagine that the terminal has brought a lot of jobs to the area. And often with projects like this, you'll have a lot of people that support it because they want, you know, the money brought into the area.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Is that the case here? There are plenty of people who support the area. Is that the case here? There are plenty of people who support the terminal. Cameron Parish has been going through some very tough economic times, plus repeated hurricanes have also hit the area. And a lot of people have just packed up and moved away. So some really see LNG as a kind of savior for the area. And a lot of these supporters were pretty vocal at a town meeting I went to last fall. The meeting was about how Venture Global wants to build another new export terminal right next to the existing one. And this one would actually be twice as big. So this meeting was packed.
Starting point is 00:08:17 We heard supporters talk about how the company came to their aid after these back-to-back hurricanes in 2020. In fact, the LNGs have done wonders for us. When we had no schools, they brought portable buildings in for us to live in and for us to operate in. When we look at our parish, we say, where would we be today if it wasn't for the LNG? We have been the forgotten town for so long. Cameron needs this to survive and prosper. Thank you. But then John Allaire, the retired environmental engineer, walked up to the microphone with this whole different point of view. People are talking about no visual problems, adventure global. That sound you're hearing is John slapping down these
Starting point is 00:09:06 big old bags of mud, one after the other, taken from his property. I have buckets of free samples of it out in my truck if you want to see. Black, viscous mud. John says muck lined the beach after Venture Global dredged for construction. But the whole area,
Starting point is 00:09:22 that whole beachfront is ruined. John says he believes the community is trading its very foundation, you know, this place that it's built on, all for an industry that won't stick around after the profits slow down. And there are other people like John, too, who feel that the jobs and the economic benefits to the area are exaggerated. And also because these LNG companies are getting these really huge tax breaks. So not as much money as you think comes back to the parish. And John told us he thinks this scale of destruction of nature wouldn't be allowed to happen in other areas of the country. He says we have the West Coast, the East Coast, and here, the Carbon Coast.
Starting point is 00:10:10 The Carbon Coast. I mean, that really paints a picture of what's happening there. So you have these local citizens documenting the environmental impacts, but I mean, aren't there federal and local environmental regulations that this company has to comply with? Yes. So John, because one, he lives so close, and also he has this background in environmental engineering, has kept a very close watch on the plant that's right next door. I mean, he literally installed cameras to document the plant's operations. And that's things like flaring, which is when these plants burn off extra chemicals or gas and release those into the air. Plants are allowed to do this, but it's only supposed to be done for very short periods of time. But John takes pictures of flaring just about every day.
Starting point is 00:11:01 This was taken earlier this year. Where'd you take this? From my patio here. From where we're standing from where your camp is, you're just watching them flare all the time? Well, they aren't this morning, but it'll be very surprising if they aren't by the end of the day. He ends up having what we describe as a daily diary of flares. Way more flaring than what Ventra Global is allowed under its permit, according to John's records. And for him, even what the plant is allowed to release is troubling. And he read out this long list of chemicals from the permit. You got sulfur dioxide, nitrous oxide. They're emitting carbon monoxide,
Starting point is 00:11:41 volatile organic compounds, which are toxic air pollutants and hazardous air pollutants, 1,3-butadiene, acetaldehyde, acrylin, benzene. So he goes on and on with that, listing off just different hazardous and toxic chemicals. And Venture Global is allowed to release those chemicals up to a certain amount. As John puts it, a permit is a permit to pollute. So John would call to report his concerns whenever he was concerned about the air quality. But the state of Louisiana doesn't actually have any air monitors in Cameron Parish. And there's really just so few monitors across the state generally. So there's no real-time monitoring of the air.
Starting point is 00:12:27 So the state would take John's reports and sometimes send an officer to collect air data. But sometimes the officer wouldn't be able to show up until several hours later, according to John, because this area is so remote. The state really mostly relies on the company to self-report its own emissions and incidents. Right. It would be fair to say there's an information gap there. I mean, it seems like this is the sort of story that you hear with any fossil fuels concerns for people around it. I remember people were very concerned about the fracking itself, which is how they get the gas. Are the concerns of people like John being heard? And is there anything being done to address these worries that people have?
Starting point is 00:13:12 Well, not a lot is being done at the state level. You know, Venture Global actually ended up violating their permit over 2,000 times in their first year of operation, meaning they released more pollution than they were allowed over 2,000 times. And that was in part because they had a lot of operational issues, including blackouts during that first year. And while state regulators have ordered Venture Global to follow their environmental rules, the company is saying those violations weren't their fault. The state is still pursuing a compliance order, but Venture Global is
Starting point is 00:13:46 also asking state regulators to change their permit to allow them to release a whole lot more pollution. Like flaring, for example. They've asked for their permit to allow over 800% more of it. So Hallie's talking about the state level. At the federal level, there has been some action. At the beginning of this year, the Biden administration announced a temporary pause in approving further export permits. And the pause was to stop new terminals from being built until they had a chance to study the industry's impact. They're looking at impacts on local health, where these terminals are located, also impacts to the climate and to the national economy, because exporting
Starting point is 00:14:26 all this gas makes our gas prices more volatile, which can mean higher gas prices for us. That pause lasted just about five months. A federal court in Louisiana recently stopped it after Louisiana and 16 other states sued over this pause. Still, the Department of Energy is going forward with their review. You know, the whole thing about natural gas and liquefied natural gas is that it's supposed to be a bridge fuel, right? Like it was supposed to be something that had less emissions than coal that could be used on a big scale until you could get like renewables like, you know, solar and wind and all of these things up and running. Like, what are the impacts of liquefied natural gas on climate change? One of the main talking points of the LNG industry is that LNG is much cleaner than coal.
Starting point is 00:15:23 But there is a factor here that's not talked about as much, which is methane. LNG is much cleaner than coal. But there is a factor here that's not talked about as much, which is methane. LNG is made up almost entirely of methane, and methane's what climate scientists call a climate super pollutant. We spoke to this scientist named Debbie Gordon at the Rocky Mountain Institute who studies methane emissions effect on climate change. And she told us with so much focus directed at carbon dioxide emissions, methane is often overlooked. So while carbon dioxide remains incredibly important because it lives for hundreds, if not thousands of years in the atmosphere,
Starting point is 00:15:55 like a blanket on the planet, what methane does is right now, as soon as it comes out, it puts 80 blankets on the planet. And so you're super warmed. 80 warm blankets. And methane stays in the atmosphere for up to 12 years. And that is why not leaking is so very important. But there is just so much leakage that happens during the process of liquefying and transporting the gas.
Starting point is 00:16:23 A recent study that's currently under peer review by Robert Haworth at Cornell University shows that LNG could actually be twice as bad for the climate as coal. I'm sure the industry is pushing back on that, right? Yes, they are pushing back on this study. Yeah, and we should say that we did try multiple times throughout this reporting process to talk with different oil majors, including Venture Global, and we did not get a response. And actually, the oil and gas industry has been producing their own studies of climate impacts from LNG, and they still claim that it's better for the environment than coal. But what's clear is that the large-scale export of natural gas through LNG has created so many more opportunities for methane to leak.
Starting point is 00:17:09 When we come back, we follow LNG's life cycle across the world, from the Louisiana plants to places like Germany. So we got these tankers leaving the Gulf Coast, going to places like Europe, right? Yes, a lot of this LNG is headed to Europe. And that really started when Russia invaded Ukraine two years ago. Ukraine is under a state of emergency for at least the next 30 days. And European countries panicked because so many of them relied on Russia to pipe over cheap gas to heat their homes. And access to that gas started to become unreliable and ultimately shut down for the most part after a pipeline exploded. Two underwater explosions large enough to register on the Richter scale near the Danish island of Bornholm.
Starting point is 00:18:01 European leaders believe this was not an accident. And that panic spurred the U.S., President Biden specifically, to promise to send more American natural gas to make up for the loss. We're coming together to reduce Europe's dependence on Russian energy. Yeah, I mean, Russia has used its supply of natural gas to Europe as a weapon at times. So having LNG from the U.S. was a huge help to Europe. Absolutely. Almost half of Europe's natural gas came from Russia. And Germany was a country that was especially hard hit. It was by far Russia's biggest customer. But Germany did respond extremely quickly. There was this big push to build out floating temporary import terminals to accept mostly American LNG. And to allow this
Starting point is 00:18:51 buildout to happen fast, the German parliament passed this big law called the LNG Acceleration Act to allow environmental laws and public input to be bypassed. And it was a very un-German thing to do because the German government does have all these regulations when it comes to big infrastructure projects. Hallie and I actually traveled to Germany because we wanted to understand this new relationship between Europe and the Gulf Coast. And so we went there last fall. And while we were over there, we found this retired sea captain named Joachim Martin, who lives in Wilhelmshaven, which is a small town on the North Sea where the first import terminal in Germany was built.
Starting point is 00:19:36 And Jakin, of course, because he's a sea captain, knows how all these complicated marine traffic websites work. And he's also concerned about the climate impacts of LNG. So he tracks all the LNG ships that are coming into the port. And he gathered us around his computer, and he was able to show us that the vast majority of ships are coming from the Gulf Coast. That's the first one that came? That was the first one, yeah. And it came from Sabine Pass? Yeah, from Sabine Pass. Freeport?
Starting point is 00:19:58 Texas. Cameron? Louisiana. 11. Lake Charles? Louisiana. 11. Nick Charles? Louisiana. 14. So these are familiar places. Cameron Parish, Sabine Pass, basically where we just were on the Louisiana Gulf Coast. So like the U.S., many European nations have vowed to cut down on carbon emissions, to invest more in renewables. How long do they expect to rely
Starting point is 00:20:29 on LNG? That is a question we also had. You know, even in that first year of importing more LNG, none of these import terminals operated at full capacity. In Germany, LNG is kind of a backup in times of energy crisis, and they're still sticking to their climate pledge and rapidly building out renewable energy projects. Germany actually already gets more than half of their energy from renewables. Still, Germany has now invested a lot of money in LNG infrastructure, and some critics do worry that that will keep the country hooked on gas longer. We spoke to Konstantin Zerger, who's with Environment Action Germany, about this.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Everybody knew that you can't really invest into new fossil infrastructure. Time's gone. So this is an unexpected opportunity to prolong the lifetime of the business model. There is concern by environmentalists like Konstantin that Germany is now part of this vicious cycle by building import terminals and signing these long-term contracts that actually lock them into buying American LNG for up to 20 years. Germany's creating demand even though Germany doesn't actually need our LNG for long. So the question then is, what will it do with LNG they promised to buy? And the answer is, they will simply start
Starting point is 00:21:52 selling it to other countries, and Germany will become an LNG middleman. Okay, so that takes us to the next stop on your reporting journey, Japan. And it's a long way from Europe. But talk to us about Japan's connection to the LNG industry and when that started. Yes. So Japan's interest in LNG goes way back. Back in the 70s, there was the global oil crisis, which older folks might remember, those massive lines to fill up their cars with gasoline. People can no longer afford to run cars that do 12 miles to the gallon.
Starting point is 00:22:28 In the Dallas area today, dealers raised prices to more than 40 cents a gallon. This gas line at one station on the Upper West Side ran from 96th Street and West End Avenue all the way up to 102nd Street. Well, that oil crisis, it hit Japan super hard. So they started looking for other energy options, and LNG was one of them. Japan's interest in major investments really played a major role in creating the global industry that we see today. We actually call it the sugar daddy of LNG in our series. So the LNG industry kept growing, and then in 2011, Japan struck by another disaster. A major earthquake and then a tsunami hit. And they took out the Fukushima nuclear plant, polluting this huge region with radiation, which had enormous consequences. It qualifies as the second worst nuclear incident in the history of the nuclear age. Nuclear had been the major source of energy for the country,
Starting point is 00:23:24 even considered a kind of fuel of the future. Right after Fukushima, you know, I remember whole towns had to be abandoned. It was this terrible tragedy. Exactly. And public opinion afterward was shut down the nuclear plants. So after the disaster, Japan stops operation at all of their nuclear plants, and they had a lot of them, almost 50. About a third of Japan's electricity came from nuclear. So all of a sudden, like we were talking about in Germany, they needed to find a new source of energy, and LNG looked better than ever. So LNG was really big in Japan for a few years in that immediate aftermath.
Starting point is 00:24:09 But now that's actually changing. Nuclear plants are coming back online and Japanese consumers are using less gas. I don't think we've said this yet, but LNG is incredibly expensive. You know, the entire process it takes to get to where it is. And I should say Japan does still want LNG as a backup, but Japanese utility companies have now shifted their gaze to other countries and have really developed a global strategy to ensure the future of their investment in LNG. All right, so what's the plan then? Japan is still a huge player in LNG, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And these Japanese gas companies that have also been given the green light by the government have begun selling this idea of LNG to other poorer Asian countries in kind of this bid to become a middleman. And so that idea of gas being cleaner and more sustainable than coal, in Japan, there's actually a slogan for it, coined by the Japan Gas Association. Go gas-stainable. Gas-stainable, short for gas and sustainable. Sustainable society with gas, so gas-sustainable, so we named this slogan.
Starting point is 00:25:22 That's a catchy slogan. But based on what you said earlier about emissions, it's pretty misleading, right? Yeah, and talking to the Japan Gas Association, you can see their banking on this LNG bridge not ending anytime soon. Japan's push to get other countries hooked on LNG is extensive. Different companies are subsidizing the build-out of gas infrastructure in Vietnam and India. But LNG is still incredibly expensive and volatile, whereas the cost of wind and solar is far cheaper. Those emerging countries are also looking at renewables, but it's still a question of which direction they'll choose.
Starting point is 00:26:01 So let's step back a bit. You know. We've got this LNG industry with a lot of clout, big promises have been made, investments have been made, but at the same time, people aren't really seeing price drops, right? You mentioned earlier that LNG is expensive compared to other energy sources, even compared to renewables. But what about here in the U.S.? Since the fracking boom and this export boom, how has that affected natural gas prices for people like John? You know, that's a good question. And I think John Allaire in Louisiana sums up at least how he feels about that. I'm not seeing the benefit. They're getting all the tax breaks. We get nothing.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Remember, all of the gas that's going through this export terminal is leaving. It's not staying in the country. So the more that we're exporting our U.S. gas, the more opportunity there is for our gas prices to be pushed higher. There was a study by the U.S. Energy Information Association that found that exporting more American gas could lead to higher, more unpredictable energy prices. You know, right now is the golden age for LNG. Companies are doing
Starting point is 00:27:13 gangbusters. There are dozens of proposals for more export terminals, most of them on the Gulf Coast. But if the market turns and prices drop, we will see the familiar boom bust, a cycle that is familiar to the oil and gas industry. And economists are already predicting a glut of LNG in the coming years as demand falls. And that means prices would go down and profits as well. Which could mean companies just walking away from these massive plants. Our federal government has allowed companies to walk away from a huge plants. Our federal government has allowed companies to walk away from a huge amount of polluting oil and gas wells before, and many worry the same could happen again, leaving local people to live with the continued pollution.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Obviously, there are big concerns about LNG, but some would say there's still a need and demand for fossil fuels like natural gas. Here in the U.S., we can't rely on just wind and solar. So yes, the U.S. and many other countries are still using fossil fuels right now. But certain countries are spending a lot of money, including the U.S., to speed up a transition to renewables. So I think we need to ask, how much LNG does the U.S. need to export, and for how long? You know, each new export terminal that's built could lock in at least another 20 years of natural gas use.
Starting point is 00:28:38 So if we're continuing to build out this infrastructure, are we then delaying the opportunity to move towards renewables? Well, thank you, Hallie and Carlisle, for joining us to talk about your reporting from your latest series, All Gassed Up. It was great being able to visit my old beat of energy. One more time. Thanks so much. Thanks for having us. For more of Hallie and Carlisle's reporting, you can listen to their series, All Gassed Up, on the podcast C-Chain from WWNO and WRKF.
Starting point is 00:29:14 This episode was produced and edited by Justine Yan. Our senior editor is Jenny Schmidt. Maggie Luthar mastered this episode. The Sunday Story team includes Andrew Mambo and Hazel Feldstein. Our supervising senior producer is Liana Simstrom. Irene Noguchi is our executive producer. I'm Aisha Roscoe. Up First is back tomorrow with all the news you need to start your week.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Until then, have a great rest of your weekend.

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