Up First from NPR - The women who fought back when their jailers assaulted them

Episode Date: October 11, 2026

Aliksandria Prout had only been at the Central California Women’s Facility for a few days when a male officer stopped her at a checkpoint. “You have beautiful lips and beautiful eyes,” he said. ...That was just the beginning. On this episode of The Sunday Story, we feature the first episode of a new three-part series from KQED’s Snap Judgment called “We Are Jane Doe.” It follows thirteen women and their fight for justice against the jailers who sexually assaulted them. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Aisha Roscoe, and this is the Sunday story from up first. Hashtag I am Jane Doe is surging on social media in response to allegations of a gang rape at Cornell University. The campaign is seeing women naming their abusers and calling for accountability across the country. Over at Snap Judgment, a podcast from KQED, reporters Maddie Bellanos and Anna Sussman have been doing an investigative. into sexual abuse at a women's prison in California. In their new three-part series, We Are Jane Doe, 13 women break the silence about the assaults they experienced at the hands of the prison guards. A warning that this story contains strong language and descriptions of violence against women
Starting point is 00:00:50 and sexual assault. Okay, here's episode one of We Are Jane Doe. Okay. Okay. I'm Alexandria Prout and I'm Jane Doe No. 1. And I think referring to myself as Jane Doe No. 1 was part of the privacy with such a high profile case. This is the first time Alexandria, who goes by Ali, has told her story publicly. I felt like I had no choice but to speak up.
Starting point is 00:01:40 I knew I wasn't the only victim. I knew there was other victims, and I just felt like if I didn't speak up, this was going to continue. And by me speaking up, I was going to make a difference for other women. Ali grew up in California, in the suburbs, outside of the state capital, Sacramento. She was the firstborn daughter in an immigrant family, so she was responsible and high achieving. Yeah, I had self-esteem, you know, and I'm educated. I was a varsity cheerleader. I was homecoming queen.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Like, I, you know, I'm a good mom. After high school, she trained to work as a medical technician. She had three kids. But things with her ex went really bad. And in late 2021, she says she was in the midst of an ugly custody battle when the police showed up at her door. I'm holding my six-week-old daughter. They say, Miss Prout, we have two felony no-bill warrants for you. We need to take you into custody.
Starting point is 00:02:40 So my mom's there. I remember just kissing and smelling my daughter, handing my daughter to my mom, and they cuffed me and took me into custody. She was charged with felony stalking in violation of a restraining order for sending threats over text in the heat of that custody battle. Her crime isn't what our story's about, so we're not going to spend a lot of time on it. But what you need to know is that it was a nonviolent offense. I was sentenced to three years in prison. What do you remember about? process of going to prison. I remember the drive. We finally get there. We get off the bus. They unshackle us.
Starting point is 00:03:21 They make you get naked and they put these big mu-moos on you, like these huge mu-moos gowns. And then they like check you. They make you go through a body scanner. And then they give you your oranges. And then they give you these black and white platform-looking shoes. They give you everything you're going to need for your cell. And you sit there for absolutely. For every. And then finally, you line up against the wall and they march you out on the yard. The Central California Women's Prison near Chowchilla, California is this massive, sprawling complex of housing units connected with interlocking hallways, checkpoint gates, and lifeless brown yards, surrounded by miles of barbed wire. About 2,000 people are locked inside, making it one of the largest women's prisons on earth. Ali was taken to A-yard, which is for prisoners who've just arrived.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I just remember we were freezing. We were hungry. I think I dropped 20 pounds on A-yard. There were narrow metal bunk beds, a toilet, and a shower with up to eight women assigned to a cell. And I remember all we had in that cell was a Bible. And so we would take turns reading the Bible out loud to one of the ones. another. She hadn't been there long when she first came across an officer named Gregory Rodriguez. Just to note, we reached out to Gregory Rodriguez for this story, but he did not get back to us.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I was walking to a medical ducat, and he was the officer at the post that had to verify your ducat. A ducet is like a hall pass. It's like this piece of paper that you, you need in order to move around the prison. And I had an N95 mask on because it was during the time of COVID. And so he asked me, can you please remove your N95 mask so I can identify you? So I did. I removed my mask. I lowered it.
Starting point is 00:05:31 And he said, you have beautiful lips and beautiful eyes. You're so beautiful. And started making sexually objective comments towards me. She's used to getting looks from men. And her Russian-Ukrainian grandmother would warn her to kind of watch out. You know, my grandmother always told me you may have it harder in life because you're a very pretty girl and that has its blessings and downfalls at the same time. In prison, she did not want to track that kind of attention. Fast forward three days later, I was in myself.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I was sitting on my bed and they called me over the loudspeaker. And they said, proud you have a ducat, which is. a pass. They told me I had an attorney visit. And so I thought, okay, great, maybe I'm getting out of here because my crime is just doesn't fit to be here. Maybe there's a technical error, something good's going to happen. And as soon as I got to the main yard gate, I had seen that it was the same officer that had made the sexually explicit comments. And like, my heart just sank. I was like, okay, this isn't going to be good. She was still so new to the prison, and she kind of felt uneasy.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Officer Rodriguez had then escorted me into the BPH room, which is the Board of Prison Hearings Room, and he walked me in there. He said there's no cameras in this room, and then he showed me his office next door. He said there's also no cameras in this room. And I'm like, okay, well, where's my attorney visit? I never had an attorney visit. Officer Rodriguez came close to her and tried to kiss her. And so I'm just like, like a thousand things are going through my head. And I pushed him away.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I'm like, no, I don't want to do this. Like, what's going on? I don't want to get in trouble. He had told me if I tried to say that I was engaging in sexual misconduct with an officer, I would be written up for a 115. and I would be put in shoe, segregated housing. That's solitary confinement, basically a jail within a prison. And a ride-up could also mean more time in prison and more time away from her little baby.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And in that moment in my head, I'm like, I'm an inmate here. I'm a convicted felon. This is an officer who's been here for 10 years. He has seniority. I can do one or two things. fight him and pray that his superiors and fellow correctional officers are going to believe me a convicted felon or I can just compartmentalize and like all that mattered to me at that time was going home to my kids on my release date. I did not want to catch more time.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I did not want to be there any longer than I had to be. And that's when he proceeded to kiss me. He lifted up her shirt. And he took me to a chair that was like up against the wall and began to sexually assault me. He first forced her head down in front of him and then turned her around on this chair. The chair had green upholstery. I remember just like looking down. I remember looking at his boot. He had his boot propped up on the left hand side of me. And I I remember just looking at his boot. And then it was over. And, you know, what really upset me was he didn't use protection.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And I remember telling him, you know, like, this isn't okay. I was like, this is unbelievable. So after he told me to make sure you tell them you have an attorney visit when you get back to the housing unit, don't say anything, don't tell anybody. You know, they're not going to believe you anyways. you're an inmate. Rodriguez left her alone in the room and he went to go clean himself up in the bathroom. I remember crying,
Starting point is 00:09:52 but then the fear and the like hurt and the sadness quickly motivated me. I remember walking up to my cell, walking up the stairs to my cell and just sitting in myself for a minute. And I thought I still have the ducat. The little piece of paper that said that she'd been out of herself that had the date and the time. I'm going to save it.
Starting point is 00:10:25 And then the 20th of May, I get called up again for another attorney visit. Again, there was no attorney. Rodriguez repeatedly called her back to that room where there are no cameras. So she came to know what. to expect. The same green chair, the same boots, the same disassociation. She didn't know what to do. She was surrounded by fences.
Starting point is 00:10:58 She was state property. And so she turned to someone she trusted, a woman named Katrina Cameron. Tell us about your friendship with Katrina. Like, how did it start? How did it develop? It started when I first came to her cell. Like, I needed a home, and she welcomed me in her cell. And the first night there, she sewed a blanket together for me and sewed a pillow cover for me.
Starting point is 00:11:28 She was so sweet. And she was just like a big sister to me. I trusted her. I trusted her over anyone. And so I came to her one day. It was about 3 p.m. We were in our cell. I went over to her bunk, and I got real close with it.
Starting point is 00:11:45 with her because I wanted to keep it real low tone, secret. I said, sis, I need to tell you something. And she's like, do not tell anybody until you get out. Do not tell anyone. They do not tell anybody. She's like, you do what you have to do and be fake until you get out of here. And then you tell somebody. And I remember her telling me when things started happening
Starting point is 00:12:13 to her sexually. Katrina Cameron had been in prison for about 11 years when Ali showed up, and she's actually still there now. And I remember telling her that if she wanted to report something to wait until she went home, because there are, it's a very big chance that things could start happening to her in a retaliatory manner that I've seen before, and I didn't want that to happen to her. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Sunday story.
Starting point is 00:12:59 You're listening to We Are Jane Doe, brought to us by our friends over at Snap Judgment. And again, a warning. This story features descriptions of violence against women and sexual assault. When we left, Allie had just told her roommate a secret. And her roommate told her, don't tell anyone. It was becoming clear to Ali that this was not a safe place to speak up. I mean, from the moment I woke up, I was scanning for all correctional staff because there was a level of suspicion with everybody at that point.
Starting point is 00:13:37 She would go to the Chow Hall, walk the yard, and then there was her job. She'd been assigned to work at a place called the watch office. We watch all the movement coming in and out of the prison. So we're on a computer, and pretty much we can. see every inmate in every cell on every yard, and we can see who's leaving the prison and who's coming into the prison. And in the watch office, she would see a list of actual attorney visits for the day. And this is where things suddenly started to click for her. Duckett's list a reason
Starting point is 00:14:20 a prisoner is moving around the prison. Which would be in the system, you know, when you don't have an attorney visit, there's nothing there. There were cameras recording her movements, and there was a paper trail of those supposed lawyer visits. But her ducet was blank. I was nervous, of course. I was like, okay, we're going to do this. Let's do this.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I said, you want to issue me attorney visits and not have attorney visits? I'm going to save those ducats. So I saved those ducats. She was able to save two of the ducats, and she put them at first in her Bible. And later, to be extra safe? Under the locker. I lifted the locker up and hit it. When she was taken to the Board of Parole Hearings Room,
Starting point is 00:15:10 she took note of the cameras along the journey, like the one at the end of the hall. I drew diagrams with where cameras were placed, where they were angled at, and like put camera here, a camera there, a camera there, camera there. Like, you really mess with the wrong girl here. Like, I'm taking you to. down. On August 9th, Rodriguez walked her past those cameras for what would be the last time. And then
Starting point is 00:15:40 a little more than a week later, she heard her name called over the loudspeaker. So it was August 19th of 2022. I had just came off the yard. I was in basketball shorts, sports bra, a white tank top in my vans. And I went to go walk in my room. And they said, Prout, come to the cop shop and pick up the phone. And I'm like, oh, shit. The cop shop is this little room where all the rows of cells meet D. Yard. It's where all the correctional officers hang out. And so I asked Katrina, why do they want me to go to the cop shop and pick up the phone?
Starting point is 00:16:20 She's like, just go, just go pick up the phone. So I'm like slowly going down the hallway. Like, I go to the cop shop. I'm like, what is this phone call about? There's this window that slides open for when prisoners come up with questions. And they're like, just pick the phone up. And it's an R&R, which is receiving, where you come in. And they're like, call somebody to come get you, you're paroling today.
Starting point is 00:16:47 She'd been sentenced to three years, but she'd kept a clean record in prison. And she was being released early after less than a year in custody. We still don't know why. And I'm like, excuse. wait, can you repeat that? And they're like, today. You're paroling today. And I'm like, I still have two months left.
Starting point is 00:17:08 They're like, nope, we're not doing any of that. You're paroling today. Call somebody right now. She walked back to her cell and started packing her things. Most of her stuff, she said she gave away to her cellmate, Katrina Cameron. Things like her makeup and her prison issued hairdriar. And when she saw the guards had passed on their rounds, she lifted up her locker.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And so I'm like, okay. I grabbed the ducats, I put him in my bra. I didn't know if I, I just wanted them to be safe. I just wanted to get through the gates and really be free before in case it wasn't real. It wasn't real until I got through the gates. A family member was waiting to give her a ride home, so she threw her stuff in the back and got in the car. I had everything with me. That's when I was like, that's when it kind of hit me like, okay, I'm carrying this, like, big secret.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I knew my mission had just started. One of the first things she did when she got out was to meet with lawyers. And she was connected to a prisoner's rights attorney named Robert Chalfont. And I think that's how the domino effect started. I called CCWF. I called the sheriff of Madera Can. County, and I said there's an officer down there raping women. We need to stop it. I'll offer up my clients for an interview. Let's go. And so next thing you know, my clients were being interviewed by
Starting point is 00:18:41 CCWFIA officers. He found out that even before Allie came forward, the prison had started investigating a couple of complaints about Officer Rodriguez. And then, when press coverage came out about Ali's lawsuit, Chalfant said his phone started ringing. At that point, victims were just coming out of the woodwork. My attorney, when I called him, he said, oh, my God, this case is bigger than you know. He was assaulting women all over the facility. When I found out there was over 20 women, I was like, okay, I did the right thing. A former correctional officer is accused of sexual misconduct against inmates at the
Starting point is 00:19:23 Central California Women's Facility in Chow Chow Chowell. They eventually identified at least 22 potential victims. Eight months after Ali first spoke up, Officer Gregory Rodriguez was arrested. A former correctional officer now finds himself on the other side of the cell bars tonight. Good evening. I'm Liz Gonzalez. And I'm Monty Torres. We thank you for joining us tonight. I saw the picture of him being escorted into the van and arrested.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And for me, I didn't believe it. I still thought it was like, it was surreal to me. Like it didn't register for me. Stay with us. This was a big deal. Officers are rarely arrested for misconduct. And in this case, it started to cause this ripple effect. That was bigger than Alley and bigger even than Rodriguez himself.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Okay. Thank you all for being here. Appreciate those of you who are staying for this briefing that you take a seat and that you turn off your cell phone because we're, In the wake of the Rodriguez case, state lawmakers called a special hearing. The incidents of sexual assault in our California women's prisons. It is prevalent. It's prevalent.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And it has to stop. California has a zero tolerance policy on that issue. There was a bill enacted in 2000. There's something called the Prison Rape Elimination Act, aimed at preventing and responding to sexual abuse in prison. But what happened with Rodriguez, showed it wasn't really working. However, Rodriguez's violence is not an anomaly. It exemplifies a pattern in which prison staff assault many, many people
Starting point is 00:21:17 because they are helped by many, many people. In his case, there was at least a 10-year-cath. So they called in the warden of Tauchilla. She got up in front of the lawmakers and survivors to answer for the prison. We take swift and appropriate disciplinary actions. Equally critical is a support and care we provide. to the victims. I cannot overstate the urgency of our response to these issues. Prison officials told the lawmakers they were taking action.
Starting point is 00:21:46 But anyway, thank you all again and thank staff for putting this all together. You did an excellent job. Inside the prison, pretty unheard of things were happening too. The incarcerated women held these town hall meetings led by a nonprofit group, where those who wanted to could start talking about the things they'd been keeping a secret. In the 30 years that I had been there, never had the prison allowed such a large group of us to gather inside there with guests and without one staff present. This is Elizabeth Lazano, who was in prison at Chow Chowchilla and was there. She says a woman from the nonprofit stood posted at each door of the prison gym to make sure no correctional officers. came in. Everyone else sat together on chairs, arranged in a circle. Lazzano spoke up.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I had the times where I said no, you know, and when I said no, being still groped from my breast and my hand put on someone's penis. And I never reported that. And how did I feel when that happened to me? I felt like I was like raped even though I was the There might have not been no penetration, but I felt how I felt when I was raped as a teenager. There's things that happen where it's out of your control, truly honesty out of your control. Person after person spoke. These conversations were difficult, but it felt like something hard and immovable and secret was starting to shift. Internal reports of sexual assault, those PREA reports, went through the roof. and lawsuits were getting filed left and right.
Starting point is 00:23:41 More than 130 former female inmates claim they were sexually abused by prison staff at the California Institute for Women in Chino. And while there was no formal acknowledgement of wrongdoing, the state also began to settle some of the lawsuits filed by Rodriguez's victims, including Alley's. Her lawyer told her this was significant. I just remember sitting on my bathroom floor and him talking to me. And he's always been really encouraging. He's like, Ali, you have no idea the magnitude of this case and what you've done. But Ali had one more choice she had to make, whether or not to testify. If Rodriguez was going to do time, like, actually get convicted, it was going to take a lot.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Witnesses willing to come forward. physical evidence, and a jury being willing to listen to women like Allie, women who've been in prison. Nobody in my family wanted me to pursue this. They told me the correctional officers union is dangerous. The magnitude of this case is so big. I feel like I'm balancing the world on my shoulders. I had people beg me not to take the stand, beg me not to pursue this on a criminal matter. I was going to see justice through and testify, regardless of whatever was coming my way. It was late summer 2024 when Medera County prosecutors were taking the final steps to bring Rodriguez to trial. Ali was gearing up to testify when she got a call from the prison.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It was her former cellmate, Katrina Cameron. It was August 2nd, and she would remember that date. I called Ali and I was in so much distress. All I could tell her is that we had just got assaulted in the trial hall. I was scared. I didn't know. I didn't know. I just needed help.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And that's all I could say is that I needed help. She had told me what had happened. She told me she couldn't see out of one eye that Christina, our other cellmate, had gotten beat up by correctional staff, that Christina was trying to protect her, that they were trying to beat up her, but she has a pacemaker. I didn't know what they were doing. or why, but I need help and I need somebody out there to know.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I think me speaking out has held a lot of nasty, bad people accountable for a lot of bad things. I think August 2nd was the boiling point. Coming up next, what happened on August 2nd? Just a quick note,
Starting point is 00:26:27 we are largely talking about the experience of women in this series, but there are also some people who identify as men or non-binary at the Central California Women's Prison. And sexual assault in prison is an issue that cuts across gender. To hear the rest of the series, We Are Jane Doe. You can follow the link in our show notes or search for Snap Judgment wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:26:55 The producers of We Are Jane Doe are Maddie Bologios, Anna Sussman, and Sukey Lewis. It's edited by Nancy Lopez, Mark Ristit, and Suki Lewis. It was executive produced by Glenn Washington and Mark Ristich. Fact-checked by Mark Bettencourt. The original music and engineering was by Dirk Schwartzoff. Production support from Marissa Dodge. Jeremy Rue from the UC Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism was the data editor.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Special thanks to Amikamoto and all the women still inside the Central California Women's Facility, brave enough to share their stories. This reporting was made possible in part by funding from the Pointer Institute. The Sunday Story team includes Andrew Mombo, Sharon Mishih, Jenny Schmidt, and Justine Yan. Our intern is Maddie Barron. Our supervising senior producer is Leanna Simstrom, and our executive producer is Irene Noguchi. I'm Ayesha Roscoe, and up first will be back tomorrow with all the news, you need to start your week.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Until then, have a great rest of your weekend.

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