Up First from NPR - Trump at Madison Square Garden, NATO North Korea, World Series

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

Trump returns to New York for major rally, South Korea briefs NATO on North Korean troops backing Russia and the Yankees seek a comeback after losing the first two World Series games. Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today's episode of Up First was edited by Megan Pratz, Ryland Barton, Russell Lewis, Olivia Hampton and Alice Woelfle. It was produced by Ana Perez, Nia Dumas, Chris Thomas, and Chad Campbell. We get engineering support from Arthur Laurent and Our technical director is Zac Coleman. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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He spoke of the enemy within while others called Puerto Rico a floating pile of garbage and claimed Vice President Harris was low IQ. Is that Trump's closing argument? I'm Amartinez, that's Steve Inskeep and this is Up First from NPR News. NATO allies are worried over thousands of North Korean troops assisting Russia in its war against Ukraine. What's at stake nearly three years since Russia's full scale invasion? Also the World Series shifts to the East Coast tonight for Game 3. High fly ball, and deep back and gone! The Yankees are hosting.

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Yeah, Vice President Harris spoke at a Pennsylvania church and urged supporters to work to the end of an extremely close election. When I think about the days ahead and the God we serve, I am confident that his power will work through us because church, I know we were born for a time such as this. As Harris drew on her faith, former President Trump was in New York holding a rally at Madison Square Garden. And one of the speakers described Harris as, quote, the anti-Christ. That was one of many insults and grievances as Trump made his final appeal to the nation.

NPR political correspondent Danielle Kurtzleben was in the arena. Danielle, good morning. Good morning. Pete What was it like? Danielle Well, it was a Trump rally, but it was dialed way up in intensity. It started with more than four hours of guest speakers. And the first guests of the night set what was a pretty vitriolic tone. Comedian and podcaster Tony Hinchcliffe joked that Puerto Rico is, quote, a floating island of garbage. He also said that Kansas City Chiefs

tight end Travis Kelsey, quote, might be the next O.J. Simpson. Kelsey, of course, is dating Harris supporter Taylor Swift. So what we have here seems to be a joke about killing one of the most famous women in the world. And it just went from there. One speaker seemed to imply that Harris is a prostitute. Tucker Carlson made fun of Harris for being biracial.

He also called her low IQ. Later in his speech, Carlson nodded to the racist great replacement theory. So just overall, a really inflammatory night. Pete Given that Republicans are trying to appeal to all kinds of people, this doesn't sound like a unifying message. Julie No. And that matters. I mean, consider the gender gap in this election. Polls show Trump is ahead with men, that he's well behind with women. Well, when one of his openers jokes about Taylor Swift being killed by her boyfriend, that arguably isn't a winning message for those women voters. And

especially think about it and contrast that with Harris's current message, which is highlighting women who have lost their lives or had their lives threatened by the overturn of Roe. That is a stark contrast. Similarly, talking about great replacement theory and joking about Latinos, it's easy to see how that might not endear Trump to Latino voters. Now, you talked about unifying people. Well, Trump often gestured towards unity. He did that last night. He called the GOP the party of inclusion, but he also doubled down on those comments

he made recently calling Democrats the enemy from within and suggested using the military against them. Here's what he said last night. They're smart and they're vicious and we have to defeat them. And when I say the enemy from within, the other side goes crazy, becomes a sound. How can he say, no, they've side goes crazy, becomes this albaho. How can he say? No, they've done very bad things to this country. They are indeed the enemy from within. Danielle, this is one of Trump's signatures. When he's called out on something, he repeats it.

Right, yes. And as the end of the campaign nears, he really still is very clearly showing that he is who he is, right? He doesn't back down from anything. Now he is adding in some new things. Last night he rolled out a new proposal. He proposed a tax credit for people caring for family members, which by the way, comes weeks after Harris proposed her own plan to expand Medicare to cover that caregiving.

So new things still happening. Okay, NPR political correspondent, Daniel Kurtzleben, Hope you get some sleep. Thank you. The president of Ukraine, Vladimir Zelensky, and the South Korean government have both been warning that North Korea is sending soldiers to help Russia fight. Last week, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin confirmed the U.S. is seeing the same thing. Today, high-ranking South Korean officials are briefing at NATO headquarters to share their evidence. Let's bring in Terri Schultz, who covers NATO for us in Brussels.

Hi there, Terri. Good morning, Steve. So what is happening with this meeting with South Korean officials? Well, this new level of collaboration between Moscow and Pyongyang is really causing a lot of concern. You know, it's something we've been hearing from the Ukrainians and South Korean governments for some time, but then the US and NATO would just say they didn't have evidence of it. Here's how NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte responded about a week ago.

If they would be sending troops to Ukraine that would mark a significant escalation that would really be important. And then last week Defense Secretary Austin did confirm the US believes at least 3,000 North Korean soldiers are in Russia and he too called it a very serious escalation. A couple of other European governments have now said their own intelligence reflects this. So today's briefing is really about getting all 32 NATO allies on the same page. And representatives from Japan, Australia, and New Zealand have also been invited as part of NATO's ongoing effort to have closer ties with these four Asia-Pacific countries in particular. I don't fully understand why Russia

and North Korea would go to this trouble. How much can 3,000 North Korean soldiers really affect the conflict? Well, taken as part of Russia's fighting force, you're right. They've got hundreds of thousands of troops on the field. It doesn't seem like 3,000 would be a lot. But Ukraine says there are signs up to 12,000 are already being trained for this purpose from North Korea. And the concern is that there may be many more North Koreans who could be deployed. Meanwhile, Ukraine, of course, is struggling to recruit more of its own people to fight.

And I guess that is part of this. It's a game of numbers. It's a war of attrition. And so it's one more source of soldiers for the Russian side. That's true. And that's the first thing. Anything that's bad for Ukraine is also bad for NATO allies who support Ukraine. That's why they're taking more notice.

So these North Korean troops as of this weekend are said to already be sent to the front line in Russia's Kursk region. And you'll remember this is where Ukraine sees some territory in August. And that incursion has given Kiev some leverage, which Russia wants to reverse. But there are other concerns. North Korean troops getting battlefield experience, which they haven't had since 1953, is very disturbing for South Korea. They're, of course, most worried about an attack from North Korea, but also other Western

partners in the region. And then there's this point. Nobody knows exactly what else Russia and North Korea might increasingly be exchanging ballistic missiles, nuclear know-how. They've recently signed a mutual defense treaty, so it could be basically anything. And North Korea is already believed to have sent Russia a million rounds of Artillery and other military equipment. Okay, so NATO is talking about this, but what can NATO do about all of this? Yeah, that's one point. They can't really do much

They can issue a statement about how this cooperation is unacceptable messages They've already been sending but NATO doesn't have the authority to tell North Korea or Russia what to do sending but NATO doesn't have the authority to tell North Korea or Russia what to do. The South Korean intelligence officials will also be briefing the European Union though and on the EU side of things they can put more sanctions on these already heavily sanctioned countries. It's unclear whether that would stop them from doing anything like this. Unfortunately for Ukraine it's hard to imagine there'll be any dramatic change for the better. South Korea though is thinking of directly providing weapons for the first time, but no NATO countries are considering sending troops to help the Ukrainians the way the North Korea is aiding Russia. Oh, interesting about South Korea. Terry, thanks so much. Sure,

Steve. That's reporter Terry Schultz in Brussels. Okay, we're two games in and the 2024 World Series between the Los Angeles Dodgers and the New York Yankees is already one for the history books. Yeah, it's been fun to watch. Friday's game one ended in the 10th inning with a dramatic first ever walk off grand slam. Here are Fox announcers reactions. High fly ball, hit deep, back and gone! He seemed a little excited.

Hopefully he's got a voice. box announcer's reactions. High fly ball, hit deep, back and gone! He seems a little excited. Hopefully he's got a voice right for the rest of the series. Dodgers won both the first games in LA and tonight the series goes to the East Coast. That's where the Yankees will host games three, four, and if necessary, Steve-five. Okay, reporter Steve Futterman was at Dodger Stadium for the first two games.

Steve, they pay you for this. You're games. Steve, they pay you for this. You're at the game, they pay you for this. Yes. Amazing. Anyway, I hope it was a lot of fun. Let's get to one of the more pressing issues though as we head toward game three. The Dodgers great Shohei Otani got hurt in game two. So will he play tonight?

Well, yes, all signs certainly point to Otani playing here tonight at Yankee Stadium. He hurt himself in game two two trying to steal second base. As he was sliding, he braced himself with his left arm on the infield dirt. That apparently caused a partial shoulder separation. It was quickly apparent that he was in pain. The announcers on Fox quickly noticed. And he's in some pain.

If Tani's grabbing his left arm arm. That is not a good sign. Definitely not when you have the highest paid player in maybe sports history, but the Dodger manager Dave Roberts told reporters yesterday that in New York, Tony has pretty much gotten back his normal range in his shoulder is feeling better and he does expect him to play. Guys have had this before and played and again it's just everyone's tolerance. How compromised do you think he might be? I don't see him being compromised.

It's the left shoulder which is the back shoulder so I don't see how that affects his hitting if he's able to go. I really don't. So if Otani is indeed in the lineup he'll be in that familiar position leading off for the Dodgers in the very first inning. Okay so the Yankees lose twice the Dodgers win twice we've still got a ways to go but what does history tell us about this position? Well historically teams that win the first two games not a surprise go on to win the series

more often than not 80% of the, but there have been many times, 10 times in fact, that teams have come back from those O2 deficits. In fact, the last time these two teams met, the Dodgers and Yankees, 1981, 1978, that's exactly what happened. In 78, the Dodgers won the first two games, they're all excited, then they go back to New York and the Yankees win four straight, three in New York, the Dodgers won the first two games. They're all excited. Then they go back to New York,

and the Yankees win four straight. Three in New York, the last one in LA. Three years later, just the opposite. The Yankees take the first two games in the Yankee Stadium, come back to LA, the Dodgers sweep them there, and then wrap it up in New York. So it's obvious. You have to win four, not two.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just a little kid when that 81 series. I still have some memories of that. But let's talk about the series over the weekend. Aaron Judge kept coming up to the bat, and I'm like, wow, Aaron Judge is up there. Something's going to happen, and then nothing would happen. What's going on?

Yeah, he's, listen, he's having a tough postseason, which sometimes great players do. He's been, New York's everything throughout the season. Best batting average among the Yankees, best number of home runs, not just in the American League and all the baseball, more than Ohtani, but here in the World Series so far, just one for nine and at bats.

He's struck out six of those nine at bats and some of them have come at some very critical situations where he could really have brought home some runs with a solid hit. Just having a bad postseason, he's hoping playing at home might give him that spark to change things. Ain't over till it's over.

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