Up First from NPR - Trump-Iran Ceasefire, Iran On Trump's Reversal, Markets React To Reopening Of Hormuz

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

President Trump reached a last-minute ceasefire with Iran just before his deadline to bomb the country's bridges and power plants, with Iran agreeing to open the Strait of Hormuz for two weeks while n...egotiations continue over a 10-point peace proposal. Iran and the U.S. are both claiming victory, but the terms are murky and Israel says the deal does not include Lebanon, even as Hezbollah says it is abiding by the ceasefire. And global markets are surging on the news, but analysts warn the damage done to oil infrastructure will keep prices high for a long time to come.Want more analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today’s episode of Up First was edited by Rebekah Metzler, Gerry Holmes, Rafael Nam, Mohamad ElBardicy, and Alice Woelfle.It was produced by Ziad Buchh and Ava Pukatch.Our director is Kaity Kline.We get engineering support from Neisha Heinis. Our technical director is Carleigh Strange.And our Supervising Producer is Michael Lipkin.(0:00) Introduction(01:58) Trump-Iran Ceasefire(05:41) Iran On Trump's Reversal(09:51) Markets React To Reopening Of HormuzTo manage podcast ad preferences, review the links below:See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 President Trump agreed to a ceasefire with Iran shortly before his self-imposed deadline to end its civilization. Iran still controls the Strait of Hormuz, which is to open for two weeks during negotiations. I'm Lela Faudil. That's Steven Ski, and this is up first from NPR News. What exactly is in the agreement that stops the war? Iranians assert the U.S. agreed to negotiate final terms on the basis of their proposal. did not get the regime change he called for. Israel says the ceasefire does not include its invasion of Lebanon. Also, what does a ceasefire mean for global markets? Oil prices went up Tuesday morning, then quickly fell as the news spread. Analyst warned the damage to oil infrastructure will keep
Starting point is 00:00:47 prices elevated. Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day. President Trump made apocalyptic threats and then backed off. The United States agreed to stop its war against Iran. The president posted on social media that he had agreed to a two-week ceasefire on the condition that Iran agrees to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Israel says it supports the ceasefire with Iran, but that Lebanon is not included in the deal. That, of course, is where Israeli forces are operating. NPR White House correspondent Franco Ordonez has been following all this. Franco, good morning. Good morning, Steve. Okay, reality show cliffhanger again, a threat to destroy civilization in Iran in the morning. That's what the president said.
Starting point is 00:01:34 this agreement in the evening. What do you make of this? Yeah, Steve, it's quite the walking back from his bombastic post yesterday and over the weekend when he used the F word telling Iran to open the straight. I mean, yesterday was really a busy day of dealmaking. Trump wrote that he made the decision based on conversations with the prime minister of Pakistan who had been pressing Trump to back down from his threats. Trump said he, the U.S. received a 10-point proposal from Iran, which he described as a workable basis on which to negotiate. And he said the U.S. had already met and exceeded all its military objectives. Okay, so now they're going to talk on Iranian terms, and Iran keeps control of the Strait of Hormuz,
Starting point is 00:02:15 although they will allow shipping for a couple of weeks. How significant is this? I mean, I think it's very significant. I mean, Trump often uses kind of this belligerent language, as you know, and these latest threats were really quite breathtaking, even for him. but it's never really a bad thing to avoid the dire scenario that he was painting. But by backing down, Trump does kind of risk damaging his credibility. You know, he's likely to face even more criticism now that he has a reputation of backing down
Starting point is 00:02:44 from this most threatening rhetoric. Franco, you followed Trump's whole presidency and, of course, followed this whole war. How did we get to this moment? Yeah, I mean, I think Trump underestimated Iran's resilience. And that's the take of so many analysts, including Nate Swanson, who worked on the Iran portfolio, in the Obama administration and early Trump years. I mean, he told me Trump took this position that if he put enough pressure on Iran,
Starting point is 00:03:06 caused enough damage, that they'd eventually capitulate. And in some ways, Iran's, you know, obviously weakened and they've been struck, however many 25,000 times or whatever the number is now. You know, but strategically, they have a new pillar of their security architecture didn't exist before this war. And so in some ways they're stronger.
Starting point is 00:03:26 He's talking, of course, about the Strait of Ormuse, which he says is a much more tangible way to inflict immediate pain on the U.S. and global markets. I mean, even Trump's posts seem to acknowledge that Iran now has the power over the strait. I mean, it's really a new tool in Iran's arsenal that they didn't have before. Okay, just a review the president said there would be regime change in Iran, even in recent days, claimed that there had been, there hasn't. Iran keeps control of the Strait of Hormuz, although traffic resumes for now. And the negotiation will be on the Iranian propaganda.
Starting point is 00:03:58 proposal. Is that all correct? Yeah, I mean, Trump didn't say, actually, that he agreed to the 10 points, but he described them kind of as more of a foundation for talks to continue. Trump is meeting with the NATO Secretary General Mark Ruda, where they are expected to be talking about this. But Trump clearly wants the war to end. He later posted that this was a big day for world peace and that Iran can now start the reconstruction process. But he also said, Steve, that the military will be just hanging out to enforce the deal. So we'll see what happens in the next two weeks. Are we back here again?
Starting point is 00:04:34 I mean, it's really potentially an ugly cycle. NPR-Wydos correspondent, Frank Ordonez. Thanks, as always. Thank you. Now, we just heard some of the details of that ceasefire, which came after weeks of rhetoric from the president and from Iran. Yeah, I mean, President Trump had repeatedly, sometimes profanely,
Starting point is 00:04:51 threatened Iran's infrastructure, including threatening to bomb the country, back to the Stone Age and to end its civilization, while Iran was emphatic in its rejection of any temporary ceasefire. So how are Iranians taking all this? NPR's D. Parvaz has been watching from Turkey's border with Iran. Hi there. Hey, Steve.
Starting point is 00:05:10 What is the reaction in the region where you are? Well, Iran Foreign Minister Abbas Adorchi posted a statement on X, expressing gratitude to Pakistani Prime Minister Shabashir for brokering this ceasefire. But a statement made one thing clear that Iran will come. continue to control the Strait of Hormoas, and any ships that are granted passage over the next two weeks will do so on Iran's terms. And in Iran, expectations are tempered. Former Minister of Communications Mohamed Javad Ozadi Jarami was quoted in one state media outlet warning, experience has shown that the start of negotiations does not mean the end of hostilities and the
Starting point is 00:05:47 urge people there to remain ready and vigilant. I get the impression from social media that Iranians are celebrating. Right, right. So, you know, state media showed images of people jubilantly waving flags in the streets. But Steve, you know, for many Iranians, a permanent ceasefire would effectively mean the end of any hope they have for real regime change. I spoke to a woman from Tehran who had crossed the border into Turkey a couple of days ago about the potential for a ceasefire. And she don't want to be named fearing reprisal when she returns home. And here's what she said. If you asked to come, you're coming our people of us. She's addressing Trump. directly saying you came and you killed many of us, you damaged our infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And then she went on to add, she's saying that this war triggered a military coup in Iran, that the country is now being entirely under the control of the Revolutionary Guard. I just want to note what that means for the layman. And analysts agree with what she says. The people who've ended up in charge in Iran are thought to be more extreme, more against the United States, more hardline, than perhaps some of the people who were in power before.
Starting point is 00:06:57 So that's one analysis there. But I want to ask about the other front line in this war. There's been fighting in Lebanon. What does the ceasefire mean for that? Well, that's interesting. Pakistan's Prime Minister Sharif, who helped broker the deal set on acts initially that the ceasefire would include the end of hostilities in Lebanon.
Starting point is 00:07:15 But Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nanjahou's office released a statement this morning saying that while Israel supports the ceasefire, it does not include Lebanon. And that's where Iranian-back Hezbollah forces have been fighting with Israeli forces, with hostilities really escalating in recent weeks. Now, Hezbollah announced this morning that it is abiding by the terms of the ceasefire, and Iran says that exclusion of Lebanon is unacceptable. But an Israeli source not authorized to speak to the media told NPR
Starting point is 00:07:42 that President Trump had a phone call with Prime Minister Netanyahu before the ceasefire was announced. and this is domestically a real issue for Netanyahu because opposition leader Yarra-Lapid said on X that Netanyahu wasn't actually included in these negotiations and called it a political and strategic failure. So what happens now? Well, first, let's see if anyone sticks to the terms because there were missiles flying into Israel in several Gulf Arab states after the agreement was announced. But U.S. and Iran are to meet in Islamabad on Friday to continue negotiations based on Iran's 10-point proposal. and they're still very far apart on some key points. For instance, Iran wants to continue its control of this trade of hormones
Starting point is 00:08:23 and is demanding that its right to enrich uranium be accepted. Iran maintains this nuclear program as a civilian program, not a military one, all the same. Cessation of enrichment activity is a key demand for U.S. and Israel. Also, Iran wants a permanent agreement, and here's where the trust issues come into play because, of course, during his first term, President Trump pulled the U.S. out of the last nuclear deal
Starting point is 00:08:46 the U.S. negotiated with Iran. Di Parvaz, thanks so much. Thanks for having me. Okay, oil prices are falling this morning, as you would imagine. Global investors are absorbing the news of this ceasefire and an end for the moment of a threat to bomb Iran's power plants and bridges. Asian and European markets rallied with Japan's Niki gaining the most in almost a year. On Wall Street, Dow futures are up more than 1,000 points ahead of the markets open.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Sounds pretty good. Let's talk it through, though, with NPR's Maria Aspen. Good morning. Good morning. Okay, what are investors seeing and feeling? So there is a whole lot of relief out there, but I hate to throw some cold water on this. We have to see how long it will last because this is just the latest twist in what's already been a really turbulent spring for Wall Street and global markets. Investors are swinging from hope to fear and back again.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Last week, Wall Street had its best day since last spring. But stocks are still down since the start of the year, and U.S. markets just ended their worst quarter in nearly four years. Yeah, I was just looking at this chart. It's a steady path downward. Is that just been about the war? There is more going on in the markets, but Steve, the war is absolutely the biggest story right now. It's already created an energy crisis with the virtual shutdown of the Strait of Hormuz. And as you know, that's made oil prices soar, which affects not only what we pay at the gas, pump, but also what companies pay for shipping and trucking. And that then increases what we as
Starting point is 00:10:20 consumers pay for everything. And then meanwhile, as President Trump makes threats and then de-escalates the war, there's just been this tremendous whiplash on Wall Street as markets sell off and then rally. I talked about all this last week with Katie Klingensmith. She's the chief investment strategist for the financial advisor Edelman Financial Engines. What we often see during times of heightened uncertainty and volatility is we'll see a big day in markets and a terrible day in markets and a big day in markets and a terrible day in markets. Nobody enjoys that. And as she points out, that can make everyone just not sure what to do next, whether we're talking investors on Wall Street or all of us on Main Street. Let's just talk about reality here, though. The president says
Starting point is 00:11:04 extreme things all the time and then backs away almost all the time. Why have investors this year been reacting in such extreme ways? Sell, buy. Well, the Iran war is a little different than all the tariffs whiplash we saw last year. I mean, what happens next in this case is not just up to the president. A lot does depend on how Iran responds to what he does.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And the war has already had that real impact on gas and diesel prices. That's maybe more immediate than the price spikes we saw with some of the more extreme tariffs Trump unveiled a year ago and then kind of moderated. A war is also just,
Starting point is 00:11:40 harder to unwind than tariffs. This is how Klingensmith puts it. We are likely to see higher oil prices, even if we see a quick de-escalation of the conflict, because there has been extensive structural damage done to oil refineries and infrastructure in the Middle East. And as she points out, that damage will take a lot more time to fix, even if the war ends tomorrow. Are investors and observers ever suspicious about the way the president keeps moving the markets up and down? Well, some investors tell me this is just what Trump does and says. This is how he negotiates. And they're trying to shrug off the noise and remain focused on what else is going on in the economy. But what the president does and says still has real impact in the markets. His threat yesterday to wipe out civilization pushed markets down. The ceasefire seems likely to push them back up. And to your point, Steve, this is a pattern that we've seen a few times since the war began. And observers have noticed a lot of well-time stock. trades in both traditional markets and the newer prediction markets. And Pierce-Marie Aspen, thanks so much.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Thank you. And that's up first for this Wednesday, April 8th. I'm Steve Inskeep. And I'm Leila Faudil. Today's episode of Up First was edited by Rebecca Metzler, Jerry Holmes, Rafael Nam, Mohammed al-Radisi, and Alice Wolfeley. It was produced by Ziyadh-Butch and Ava Pukhatch. Our director is Katie Klein.
Starting point is 00:13:08 We get engineering support from Nisha Highness. our technical director is Carly Strange, and our supervising producer is Michael Lipkin. Join us again tomorrow.

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