Up First from NPR - Trump Receives Fallen Troops, Hegseth Grilled On The Hill, Arizona Primary Results

Starting point is 00:00:00 President Trump goes to Delaware to receive the bodies of American soldiers. He is struggling to answer questions about the war with Iran. Do you know something that I don't know? Well, they continue to attack our allies and kill Americans. You don't know what the dialogue is behind the scenes. I'm Leila Faudil with Michelle Martin, and this is up first from NPR News. Both Democrats and Republicans wanted answers from Defense Secretary Pete Hegeseth about a war Congress never voted to authorize.

Starting point is 00:00:30 This is a regime-held. Hell bent on nuclear ambitions and President Trump's in little bit of answers. We need straight answers. Heg Seth went to Capitol Hill asking for billions more for the war. And Arizona Republicans picked candidates who denied the 2020 election results in their primary yesterday. Why do Democrats think they have a better chance of beating MAGA Republicans in the midterms? Stay with us. We'll give you news you need to start your day.

Starting point is 00:00:59 President Trump will travel to Dover Air Force Base today to attend the dignified transfer of the remains of U.S. service members killed by a Iranian strikes. I'll be going to Dover for something that I feel is, it's a great honor for me to do it. Honoring those killed in action is one of the most solemn responsibilities for a president. But for Trump, the rising number of casualties has added significance. It highlights the mounting questions about the Iran war. NPR White House correspondent Franco Ordonez is with us now to tell us more about this. Good morning, Franco. Good morning, Michelle. You know, the American public has always been ambivalent about this war, but the criticism has generally been framed in economic terms. I'm wondering if the losses of these troops might change that. Yeah, I mean, if the casualties

Starting point is 00:01:47 continue to rise, it could change a lot. It could change. I mean, the public does not like seeing U.S. citizens killed in a war, especially a war that they don't necessarily understand or maybe don't think is necessary right now. I was talking with Justin Logan, who directs foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute. And he told me that the challenge of, you know, reduce munitions, for example, is kind of this abstract idea to most Americans. But what's not abstract at all is Americans coming back in, you know, flag-draped coffins. I think the president knows he's playing with fire here. The public doesn't like this conflict, but they're not that exercised about it as yet. He knows that the one way to get them exercised about it is to have large amounts of Americans

Starting point is 00:02:32 coming home in flag-draped coffins. You know, and Logan noted that the death of one of those service members, a young woman from Texas, who's 19, seems to be striking a chord with people in the sense that there are young people dying in this war where their goals are unclear. And he said that the more Americans who die, the more questions are going to be asked about what the aims of the war, in fact, are. Reporters asked Trump about his long-term plan in Iran yesterday, noting that Iran doesn't seem to be showing any indication that it wants to stop

Starting point is 00:03:02 fighting. How did he respond? I mean, Michelle, he got a little testy, arguing with the reporters that they don't actually know what's really happening and again insisting that Iran is anxious to stop the fighting. What, do you know something that I don't know? Well, they continue to attack our allies and kill Americans. You don't know what the dialogue is behind the scenes that they want to meet desperately to try and end it because they're getting decimated. And yet Trump also said that Iran is not ready to meet in a quote, meaningful way. And therefore, he has no interest to in doing so. It really just shows a very bleak assessment of where the negotiations stand right now, even after 11 days of continuous strikes. This war has already stretched months longer than Trump

Starting point is 00:03:46 predicted and told Americans that it would. Are there other ways it's becoming a political problem for the White House? Well, I think there's just real uncertainty of when this is actually going to end. You know, the defense secretary was also on Capitol Hill as well yesterday asking for billions, war to cover the costs of the war. All that is likely to have political impacts, especially as the midterms approach. Now, Trump ran for office criticizing past wars in the Middle East, and now the U.S. is at war in the Middle East. Trump wants to sell Americans on this narrative that things are going great in the U.S., that the stock market is hitting record highs, that inflation is dropping. But having Americans serving overseas killed by Iranian strikes runs counter to that.

Starting point is 00:04:29 That is. White House correspondent Franco, Ardenas Franco. Thank you. Thank you, Michelle. As Franco mentioned, Defense Secretary Pete Hagseth met with senators yesterday in a hearing that turned contentious at times. He was asking for billions in additional funding for the Pentagon. And he has a new price tag for the war with Iran, $37.5 billion. And meanwhile, the U.S. attacks on Iran and counterattacks from Iran have intensified. And that has frustrated some lawmakers who are now being asked to, approve funds for a war that Congress never voted to authorize. Joining us now to talk about this is NPR congressional correspondent, Claudia Carceles. Claudia, good morning to you. Good morning, Michelle. So Hague sat for several hours with lawmakers yesterday. Just bring us out to date on what he was asking for. Well, it's part of a Trump administration request for $67 billion in emergency funding as the war picks up speed again

Starting point is 00:05:24 that would replenish equipment and munitions that have been used and get projects and equipment deliveries moving faster. Hexed said, without additional funding, the department could see shortfalls in service member pay, and he warned there could also be an effect on troop readiness. Training right now and training in the future that would have to be curtailed if we do not get our budget needs met and urgently. And this comes on top of a record defense budget request of $1.5 trillion that the Trump administration proposed earlier this year. Hexeth said this funding was, long overdue. And what did the lawmakers have to say about that? What was their response? Well, senators from both sides of the aisle said there's still a long list of unanswered questions.

Starting point is 00:06:10 They asked Hes Kegssev about Iran's nuclear program, about its missile capabilities, and about the future of the Strait of Wormuz. So in essence, reflecting the level of uncertainty and skepticism among some members worried about the direction of the war. At times, there was some real frustration on display, even from Republicans. One moment came after Louisiana GOP, Senator John Kennedy asked Hegset if Iran still has access to nuclear capabilities. This is a regime hell-bent on nuclear ambitions

Starting point is 00:06:43 and President Trump and will be no answer. We need straight answers. And what about the Democrats? What did we hear from them? Well, Heg-Seth really faced an intense grilling from Democrats. One of the most heated exchanges came at the end of the hearing

Starting point is 00:06:58 with Michigan Senator Gary Peters. But if there's a lack of a winning strategy, they're in harm's way. Their leaders have failed them. And that's what's happening. We have political leadership. You don't have a strategy. You don't have a long-term plan

Starting point is 00:07:10 to actually win this war. Win the war. The men and women are going to be able to do it, but they need to have leadership. And that really captured the fury that Democrats have with this ongoing war. They say it's exacted immense losses for the country.

Starting point is 00:07:25 That includes the 18th service members killed since the start of the war and the nearly 500 injured. And what is the political reality of all this for President Trump and his party? Right. As the war drags on and closer to the elections, it's creating bigger headaches for Republicans and Democrats are capitalizing on that. Take the top-ranking Democrat on the Senate Appropriations Committee, Patty Murray. One key argument she made is that gasoline prices have started to climb higher after the latest uptick in fighting. That's sure to be a message that we're going to be hearing from Democrats as they hammer it on the campaign trail and try to win back

Starting point is 00:08:01 control of Congress. That is. NPR's Gloria Chrysales. Claudia, thank you. Thank you so much. Arizona Republicans picked staunch allies of President Trump in their primary races on Tuesday. The candidates for governor and secretary of state both denied the 2020 election results. Ben Childs is here to tell us more. He's political editor at member station KJZZ in Phoenix. Good morning, Ben. Good morning. So what do we know so far? Well, so far, we know that far-right candidates are sweeping statewide primaries.

Starting point is 00:08:39 For example, Congressman Andy Biggs is now the GOP nominee for governor here, and state lawmaker Alexander Colliden won the GOP race for Secretary of State. They both cruised to victory in the primary, largely thanks to endorsements for Biggs from President Trump and for Collin with the backing of Turning Point, the political machine founded here in Arizona by the late Charlie Kirk. But the thing is, Trump's endorsement, and turning points backing isn't as meaningful in the general election when these MAGA candidates have to appeal to a broader portion of the electorate, particularly Arizona's influential block of independent voters.

Starting point is 00:09:14 So this outcome has some Republicans in Arizona worried that Democrats could again win key races in this swing state. Which is interesting, because this is a state that Trump went handily just two years ago. So say more about what it is about these GOP candidates that have some Republicans so concerned. I think the key thing is they're not President Trump. What we saw in Arizona, both in 2022, the last midterm and 2024, is that Trump himself is something of an outlier in Arizona. For example, when Trump won the popular vote for president here two years ago, Democrat Ruben Gallego also easily won the U.S. Senate race, outperforming the Republican in that race. And in the last midterm election, Democrats like our current governor, Katie Hobbs, attacked a slate of Trump-backed candidates. as to extreme and to beholden to the president to represent Arizonans.

Starting point is 00:10:06 Democrats are going to paint Republicans like Biggs and like Colleton, the GOP nominee for Secretary of State, as so pro-Trump that they won't act in the best interest of Arizona voters, whether that's harping on Republicans for inflation, that the president and his allies have failed to tame, or pointing out that, like Trump, both of these candidates are election deniers, who've spread unfounded rhetoric about elections in swing state. States like Arizona. So Republican voters are picking these Trump-backed candidates who could very well lose statewide races in Arizona. It's interesting, were there no alternatives? There were in primaries for both the governor's office and Secretary of State. There were GOP candidates considered, I don't want to say

Starting point is 00:10:51 more moderate, but more traditionally conservative in a state like Arizona. But neither primary was that close. The Associated Press, they called both races about an hour after polls closed when the first batch of results were dropped here on election night. And that's a reflection of the enormous influence, not just of Trump, but of Turning Point, which backed both Biggs and Colleton. That organization now has a lot of influence in Arizona, at least among GOP voters in the primary. Primary voters here seem to be signaling that they prefer these far-right candidates to best represent their interests, despite the fact that those far-right candidates keep losing when Democrats and independents also have a say in November. So this November will be yet another test of not just Trump, but turning points

Starting point is 00:11:38 ability to get their preferred candidates across the finish line. And so far, Michelle, that's not something they've been able to accomplish in key statewide races. That's Ben, Jaws of KJZZ in Phoenix. Ben, thank you. Thank you. And it's up first for Wednesday, July 22nd. I'm Michelle Martin. And I'm Leila Faudil. Today's episode of Up First was edited by Rebecca Metzler, Jason Breslo, Miguel Macias, Mohamed al-Bretisi, and Adriana Goyardo.

Starting point is 00:12:08 It was produced by Ziad Budge and Nia Dumas. Our director is Christopher Thomas. We get engineering support from Nisha Hines. Our technical director is Stacey Abbott, and our supervising producer is Michael Lipkin. Join us again tomorrow.

Up First from NPR - Trump Receives Fallen Troops, Hegseth Grilled On The Hill, Arizona Primary Results

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