Up First from NPR - Uvalde Report, Temporary Funding Bill and why Iran launched strikes on Pakistan

Episode Date: January 19, 2024

A report from the Justice Department finds multiple failures in how law enforcement responded to the shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas. Congress has passed yet another short term fundi...ng bill against the wishes of the far-right Freedom Caucus. And Iran's role in a number of conflicts in neighboring countries.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, I forgot it was Friday. What a nice thought. Does it have a feel to you? Friday doesn't have a feel anymore? I don't know. Sometimes, you know, you're just like, it's 3.30 in the morning, it's snowing, I gotta get to work, what day is it? Okay, I'm ready. Fatal mistakes were made in the response to the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas. A failure that should not have happened. A DOJ report on the massacre says more people would have survived if law enforcement had responded appropriately. I'm Leila Faldel, that's A. Martinez, and this is Up First from NPR News.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Congress passed another short-term funding bill that keeps the government open for now, but some far-right Republicans aren't happy. They're going to vote to continue to fund the radical progressive policies embedded in it. Speaker Mike Johnson, keep his job. And Iran striking targets in Pakistan. Pakistan targeting inside Iran is highlighting Iran's role in the region. It's long-backed proxy forces to protect its interests. What's Iran up to now and how's the U.S. interpreting what it's doing? Stay with us. We've got all the news you need to start your day. Now, our change will honor 100 years of the Royal Canadian Air Force and their dedicated service to communities at home and abroad. From the skies to our change, this $2 commemorative circulation coin marks their storied past and promising future. Find the limited edition Royal Canadian Air Force $2 coin today.
Starting point is 00:01:39 A failure that should not have happened. That is how Attorney General Merrick Garland describes the police response to the 2022 shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas. His comment came as the Justice Department Thursday released a detailed report into the school massacre that killed 19 children and two teachers and left many more injured. The Texas newsroom Sergio Martinez Beltran joins us now from Uvalde. Sergio, the DOJ report is a brick, 500 pages long, lots there. Anything at all, though, that grieving families can hold on to for answers? I mean, the biggest takeaway and one of the most heartbreaking
Starting point is 00:02:16 ones for the families is the fact that law enforcement agents who responded to the shooting treated it initially as a barricaded subject situation and not as an active shooter. That's huge because when there's a barricaded subject, police are encouraged to negotiate. But when there's a shooter, police are trained to use all their tools and do whatever they have to do to stop it. But in Uvalde, police retreated for a while after the shooter injured two officers and then waited 77 minutes to confront the shooter and ultimately kill him. Attorney General Merrick Gardin was in Uvalde and he told families of the victims that their loved ones deserved better. The victims and survivors should never have been trapped with that shooter for more than an hour as they waited for their rescue. Garland said some victims would have survived if law enforcement agencies had
Starting point is 00:03:00 followed active shooter protocols, the tactics in place since the Columbine school massacre nearly 25 years ago, and he blamed the botched response on the failed leadership of the incident commander, former Uvalde schools police chief Pete Arredondo. Did the Justice Department ID anyone else as responsible for the failed response? Besides Arredondo, the report does mention former Uvalde Police Acting Chief Mariano Pargas. The Justice Department says Pargas was not trained to be an incident commander and didn't demonstrate adequate command leadership during the shooting. But the report doesn't name many other names, and that's something that disappointed many of the victim's family members. The fact is there's still deep frustration here with law enforcement. Here's Vincent Salazar, the grandfather of 11-year-old Leila Salazar, who was killed at Rub Elementary. If you cannot serve and protect the people,
Starting point is 00:03:49 these were children. All they wanted to do was play. There's no reason this should have happened. They ignored the training that was supposed to be since Columbine, and they ignored it. A key recommendation in the report is following those protocols, like prioritizing taking the shooter out and never treating an active shooter as a barricaded situation. Sergio, you're there. You know how overwhelming the grief is there, and it probably will never end. But has this investigation delivered maybe a little bit of closure, any at all, for the people of Uvalde? Yeah, I mean, that's a difficult question, and it's one I've asked those who lost a loved one at Robb Elementary.
Starting point is 00:04:27 And the answer is no. Kimberly Rubio lost her 10-year-old daughter, Lexi. And you can hear the pain in her voice. I hope that the failures end today. And the local officials do what wasn't done that day. Do right by the victims and survivors of Robb Elementary, terminations, criminal prosecution. But family members believe this report is a good step in trying to get some accountability.
Starting point is 00:04:54 And they're again calling on lawmakers to end future law enforcement failures by improving police training and passing gun control laws that could help prevent the next mass shooting. Sergio Martinez Beltran is a help prevent the next mass shooting. Sergio Martinez-Veltran is a reporter with the Texas Newsroom. Sergio, nice to hear your voice again. You're welcome. Good to hear you. Congress has passed another stopgap funding bill, which keeps the lights on in Washington through February. It's the latest in a series of short-term extensions passed by Congress after they failed to pass the year-long bills they were supposed to pass back in September. NPR's Eric McDaniel has been watching it all from the Capitol. Eric, we're kind of getting used to stopgap bills.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Why haven't they passed the full-year spending bill yet? Yeah, you know, it's a good question. For a long time, politics was sort of the art of the possible, right? Compromise was the name of the game, especially in moments like this of divided government. But I'd say over the last 15 years or so, there's been a growing number of Republicans who have sort of a different approach. They'd rather shut down the government entirely than compromise on policies that they feel are insufficiently conservative. And they see bipartisan bills, bills that you pass with Democratic votes, as failures. And in a Congress with a wafer-thin Republican majority like this one, that group just holds a lot of influence right now. So what are we hearing from them?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Well, Speaker Mike Johnson, he's the leader of the House Republican Caucus, obviously, and he's new on the job, right? He's about 90 days in, and he's relied on his sort of early days goodwill to set a bipartisan top line spending target, which was a big deal in negotiations with other congressional leaders and keep the lights on with these short-term bills. But both moves really kind of irked his anti-compromise members, folks like Chip Roy of Texas. Here's Roy speaking out against the funding bill that they passed last night on the House floor. This continuing resolution will fund your government at the same level as last year's
Starting point is 00:06:57 massive omnibus spending bill that all my Republican colleagues, with the exception of two in this chamber, were adamantly opposed to, and they're going to vote for it. And look, if Roy gets frustrated enough, he can join with a group of just three or four other Republicans and vote with Democrats to fire Johnson and throw the chamber back into chaos. You'll probably remember something like that happening this fall. So Johnson is busy balancing their demands while still coming up with bills Biden could sign. That's a really hard ask. And so far, it's just been these spending bills, the short-term bills that have been possible. So what, till March, right, to work on funding?
Starting point is 00:07:34 That's what we're looking at? That's right. Yeah, yeah. March 1st and March 8th are the two deadlines. But they're also working on other stuff too. Immigration, Ukraine deal, a lot going on. Yeah. so it's right now separate from the funding negotiations, but the Senate is working on an immigration and Ukraine aid deal. And in all the ways the House hasn't been working toward compromise, the Senate really has been. Democrat Chris Murphy, Independent Kyrsten Sinema, and Republican James Lankford have been hammering away at an immigration part of this deal for months. Senate leaders from both parties agree with Biden on the need for Ukraine aid.
Starting point is 00:08:06 This is all linked together. But even if the Senate does get a deal done, right, the question is back to the House, where Speaker Mike Johnson has so far backed his faction of anti-compromise folks, and he controls what comes up for a vote. So unless he has a change of heart and is willing to put forward a compromise deal,
Starting point is 00:08:22 I'd say immigration reform is probably still going to stagnate. And that's been the story in Congress for more than three decades at this point. The last reform was 1986. Yeah, it doesn't sound, I mean, I'd like to be positive about stuff, Eric, but it doesn't sound like there's going to be a lot of hope of getting any more legislating done this year, right? I think it's fair to anticipate a stunningly unproductive year in terms of legislation. But, you know, I suspect we'll see more political stunts and other kinds of inquiries. For one, the president's son, Hunter Biden, has just reached an agreement with Republicans to give closed door testimony in the House. He'd previously refused to appear behind closed doors, but acquiesced just as the House
Starting point is 00:08:59 Republicans were preparing to hold him in contempt. So a lot to come. That's NPR congressional reporter Eric McDaniel. Eric, thanks. Thank you, Abe. As the war between Israel and Hamas surpasses 100 days, a new flare-up of violence has emerged between Iran, a main sponsor of Hamas, and Pakistan. Earlier this week, Iran struck militants inside Pakistan. Then Pakistan carried out its own strikes inside Iran, which killed nine people. It adds even more uncertainty in a part of the world central to U.S. interests. All right. To help sort this out, we turn now to NPR's Peter Kenyon in Istanbul. Peter, this is a part of the world that has seen attacks in the past.
Starting point is 00:09:45 What has happened so far this week on a considerably larger scale? What's happening? Well, Iranian officials say they were targeting specifically a militant group known as Jaisalatul, and that's in Balochistan, a large territory. It straddles southwest Pakistan, Iran, parts of Afghanistan. Tehran says it was concerned about the possibility of escalating cross-border violence by the group. Pakistan swiftly responded with a deadly strike inside Iran's Sistan Balochistan province, and Iranian officials say there were children among the dead there.
Starting point is 00:10:16 There are signs that both sides would be interested in de-escalating the situation at this point, but with tensions running high, it might not take much to set things off again. Yeah, I mean, Israel continues its war on Hamas. The Iran-backed proxy militia and governing power in the Gaza Strip. And Israel is exchanging fire with Hezbollah. That's the Lebanese militant group backed by Iran. I mean, what might all of this mean for the U.S. and Western approach in Iran? It would seem likely to ratchet up tensions considerably on that front as well. I spoke with Ali Valles. He directs the Iran Project at the International Crisis Group.
Starting point is 00:10:48 He says the Hamas attack that left some 1,200 people dead in southern Israel last fall effectively rules out any diplomatic improvement in relations with Iran. Here's how he put it. And also what October 7 has done and what the conflict has done is that it has derailed the de-escalatory understanding that Iran and the U.S. had negotiated over the summer and has completely shut the door on the prospect of any resumption of negotiations about the future of nuclear diplomacy between Iran and the U.S. And now with the flaring tensions between Iran and Pakistan, there's another potential front to worry about. But Iran has said that it was just as surprised by the Hamas attack on October 7th as everyone else.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Does that hold water outside of Iran? Well, certainly the people I've been speaking with say it is entirely plausible, but that doesn't absolve Tehran of responsibility. Iran has financed and armed these proxy militias for years. It's hard to see how the October 7th attack would have happened were it not for that. But on the narrow question of whether Tehran was behind this attack, analyst Sanam Vakil at the UK-based Chatham House think tank says there is this general assumption that Iran plays some kind of role of a puppet master, but that doesn't mean it ordered this attack. Here's a bit of what she said.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Iran has provided financial, technical, capacity-building support over a long period of time and deferred to these groups to manage relations and politics within their own entities that they operate. So it's not a command and control relationship. But Vakil also emphasizes that this in no way absolves Iran of responsibility. It's the one that gave these groups the means to commit bloodshed in the name of resistance to the U.S. and Israel, and she says it should be held accountable. That's NPR's Peter Kenyon in Istanbul. Peter, thanks. Thanks, A.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And that's Up First for Friday, January 19th. I'm A. Martinez. And I'm Leila Faldil. Today's episode of Up First was edited by Kelsey Snell, Eric Westervelt, Mark Katkov, Irina Advani, and Alice Wolfley. It was produced by Ziad Butch, Ben Abrams, and Nina Kravinsky. We get engineering support from Stacey Abbott, and our technical director is Zach Coleman. Join us again on Monday. And don't forget, Up First airs on Saturday, too. Ayesha Roscoe and Scott Simon have all
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