Upgrade - 111: I Keep Moving the Goalposts

Episode Date: October 17, 2016

This week Myke visits Apple’s latest flagship store, Jason takes a trip with both a Mac and an iPad, and Apple scales back its automotive ambitions.

from relay fm this is upgrade episode 111 today's show is brought to you by fresh books and the nuisance committee please stay tuned after the show for a special message about the 2016 presidential election my name is mike hurley i am joined by Mr. Jason Snell. Hi, Mike. How's it going? Very well, Mr. Snell. I'm ready to upgrade my week. Good. Well, that's how we start here. We go early in the week so that your week is nice and upgraded.

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RelayFM app on the App Store. Jason, a little bit of Twitter follow-up. So we've been following Twitter's potential buyout or sale, and there was an article on The Verge this week, basically stating that it seems that everybody who was rumored to potentially be interested in buying

the twitter has effectively called pulled themselves out including the salesforce ceo who is what is the name mark benioff who told the financial times that the company is has walked away so they've explicitly said that they're not interested. And The Verge's sources at various companies that seem to be interested, like Google or Disney or Twitter, or Apple, Twitter could buy themselves. They've basically said that everyone is seeming to say, no, we are not interested in this. So as it stands right now, nobody wants to buy Twitter. The Salesforce thing is interesting, too, because that's a case where it sounds like major investors in salesforce basically went to mark benioff and we're like no no don't don't do that and he was like well we were just we were just investigating and they're like well stop and he's like all right okay we'll stop um the only it's interesting because then you

know what happens if a company wants to be bought out and nobody wants to buy them. And I found a post that I think somebody linked to me on Twitter that is from somebody writing on his own blog, but it's an investor, essentially suggesting that what most likely will happen is a uh is that a strategic buyer will come in like private equity might come in and buy out twitter and his argument is um that a what he calls a wall street bastard will come in and improve the product and cut the expenses and And he, this guy, John Hempton, who wrote this basically says, there's a business here. Somebody who's an investor will see that there's a, there's a good business to be had here by changing what it is and cutting a lot of people and, uh, and making changes. And that, that that's the most likely scenario is that especially as Twitter's

stock falls, uh, in the the in a moment of like people stopping the anticipation of a of a buyout that uh somebody could come in with private money and buy it and uh and and take it over and make some huge changes to it and this guy who wrote this blog post also hates jack dorsey um and thinks that he is a uh a fashion plate who doesn't actually care about it. I don't know how realistic this is, but I think as the stock gets depressed because everybody realizes that there's nobody out there who actually wants to buy Twitter,

then that's when somebody will buy Twitter because the Twitter stock price has been one of the big impediments to the purchase. So that may happen now that the Twitter's-going-to-get-bought rumors have sort of fallen on hard times. Because it's basically with everybody pulling out, it's getting to the point now where the stock price is so low, it's maybe becoming attractive for these people. Right. And the stock price was high in anticipation that some big pocketed buyer was going to come in and have to make an offer that was going to buy at the higher price. going to come in and have to make an offer that was going to buy at the higher price, even though there was a piece a while ago that I think we might have referenced on the podcast that was very much that.

Twitter's problem was that anticipation of a sale had driven its price up above what its actual value is. And therefore, there couldn't really be a sale because you'd be overpaying for Twitter. But all signs point to no buyer now, which means that the stock price might start to drain away and then open it up for somebody else to come in and buy it. So over the weekend, the Apple Store in Regent Street was reopened. I saw your video. Yep. So I went down to take a look. I've been super excited about this thing

for quite a while to reopen. I love the Regent Street store. I've always loved it. And I love the new stores, like the one that we saw in Union Square in San Francisco. So Apple have reopened it. I went down there.

I took some video, which I put on my vlog. I recommend go watching it because this place is absolutely stunning. It is unbelievable. It's by far and away the best of these Apple stores that I've seen. I've seen the one in Memphis, which was actually one of the first ones

if not the first one that had some of these elements. I've seen the one in San Francisco and now I've seen this one in London and they absolutely nailed it. This is absolutely fantastic. A couple of my favorite features in this store are the on the stairs like the handrails are carved into stone and I read in a tech crunch article that there is Italian limestone and the angles of the the

handrails are like they're cut at an angle as such that matches the angles on apple's products so like the curve in the handrail i mean i love little things like that and this is something that i noticed when i was in the store but it seemed a bit strange to me at the time none of the devices are tethered to the desks so like you can just pick up the iphone there's like no cable on it at all and And in this TechCrunch article, it says that basically Apple are not going to be doing this now in their stores. They're not going to be tethering to the desks anymore because they want you to be able to pick up and walk around with them. So you can kind of feel what they're like. But if you try and leave the store, they're immediately bricked.

Huh. So you can just pick up the iPhones now. And you see it in the video. I pick up one of the Jet Black iPhone Pluses, the 7 Plus. And I'm kind of just handling it. And there's absolutely no cable in it, no tether on it at all. And I wondered if that was something that they were just doing for day one. But that's how it's going to be done going forward now, which is very interesting.

Have you been to the new one in San Francisco? Yeah, I was there during the WWDC week. Right, okay, so you have been to that one. I missed that. Because that's what the video that you took, that's what it reminded me of, right? It's the trees and the grove and all of that. It's like this is the new Apple Store model.

Yeah, but I've got to say this one to me is the most impressive i just thought it was absolutely stunning everything about it like how open the store is and how it all kind of leads to the back and then up these beautiful stairs where they have the screen and then there's more product stuff at the back and the trees line this walkway down to the back of the store um it is absolutely stunning. If you are in London or visiting London at any point, I thoroughly recommend this. I mean, the Covent Garden store is beautiful. It's the biggest in the world

because it's sprawling across these floors. I cannot wait to see what they do to that store now. But this Regent Street store is, I think it's a real landmark now. It's always been one of apple's flagship stores but they they put a uh a big a big effort into this one i think and there's an executive uh briefing room in the back according to tech crunch that's like the secret uh secret boardroom which is uh that's that's cool i can i can imagine Apple doing like product briefings with journalists in that area.

Right, just come on back. Yeah, so I know that there are offices above the store that Apple uses. It's actually some of the headquarters for a lot of Apple's London stuff. And they do briefings there. So they may now relocate those briefings to this new room in the actual store.

Although apparently they're, I mean, because they're going to take up many portions of the Battersea power station, right, eventually. So I wonder if eventually everything will be there because that was another big story. Apple made a bunch of international facilities announcements, and one of them was unifying their london operations at the at the old battersea power station which is amazing it's going to be amazing so maybe that'll be i think they're taking something like six floors of the new building which is so the building's being renovated um and it seems like apple's going to be taking a significant chunk to to unify a lot of their european effort i. This is what happens when a company can't move its money back.

It starts buying real estate. Yeah, and that's exactly what's happening is that it also is a change in Apple's culture that Apple is now much more than it was when Steve Jobs came back. Now it's embraced its international

nature and has people all over the world working for apple and and groups in you know many countries it's like this weird thing where they've always been there but now they're kind of acknowledging it in a weird way by making bold statements and creating yeah campuses and all that and if people don't know outside of uh the uk don't know what battersea power station is. It's right on the Thames. It's got these four huge smokestacks. You've probably seen it if you've watched any British TV shows because either as itself or doubling as some, you know, unnamed industrial complex in a James Bond movie

or a Doctor Who episode. It's been used in a lot of different TV shows. It's iconic. And that's why they can't tear it down. But it's not being used as a power station anymore so what do you do when apple's taking over oh you may know it from the pink floyd animals album it's uh the building that they flew the inflatable pink pig over the top of that spatsy power station that's the one because i know when i was tweeting about this on the day that apple announced the

sale every reply i had featured pink floyd in some some manner talking about apple scaling up we've seen some news today from our good friend mr mark german that of apple scaling back on the uh titan plan project titan is the code name of apple's car initiative so uh the new german news is that there have been hundreds of job cuts inside of that team because the project, the team is now on a new direction. They are confirmed via German sources to no longer be building a car. This was something that was rumored that there was a change, but apparently now he's found out that they are no longer focusing on building a car, but leadership has put focus on building an autonomous driving system that will allow Apple to have the flexibility of either partnering with an existing car maker

or to give them kind of the brains to return to designing their own car in the future. And Apple have been hiring more people that have a focus on this. So whilst they haven't cut the size of the team down, they've just cut the people out, I that we're focusing on hard car hardware design and they're restaffing with people that can help in the autonomous effort apple executives have given the titan team until the end of next year to prove feasibility of the project when i look at this i kind of see a couple of things i think this is probably the right move because i think just just deciding you're going to design a car when you're a computer company is a bold

and I think kind of stupid move It's a big leap and I think if they can build something like this, if they can build the brains they can either decide to work with a car company later, it gives them the road to buy a car company later knowing that they have something they can actually do

with that company or they can return to making a car company later, knowing that they have something they can actually do with that company, or they can return to making their own car later on once they've actually worked out if they can do something interesting. And clearly, if Apple are going to get into the car game, they need to get in the future of the car game. And for a company like Apple, the electronic stuff and the battery-powered stuff,

that's doable, right? There are enough companies doing it now. It's technology that's known. It can be done. But the autonomous stuff, that's still in the infancy, right, in the automotive industry. So if Apple feel like they can do something there and by the end of next year feel like they have something worthwhile,

I think that's when they might go back to working on a car again. And I think this is probably the right solution. Make sure you actually have something to give to the world before you start trying to build a product, which is leaps and bounds outside of what you're currently doing. I mean, we talk about this from time to time. And when we've talked about the Apple car project, there's often been this kind of head scratching aspect of it, which is how does this work? Like we generally agree, like it makes sense for Apple to investigate things like this. This is an area where they've got a lot of expertise in certain areas. Maybe this is something that they can do. They've got

the money to do this. Why not them? If we look out at an industry that's ripe for change, it's the car industry that it's not going to be the same in 10 or 15 years as it is today. All of those things are true. And yet when we tried to imagine like the, the product, it started to get weird. Like imagining an,

you know, a line of Apple cars and Apple dealerships, Apple sales, it just, it all started to feel a little bit weird. And we, we all kind of, we kind of

try to force our way through it and all that. I think it's interesting to see that this has apparently gone on inside of Apple where the initial thing was, let's see about making a car, right? And also I should say, this is the kind of thing that for many companies with many products, this happens behind closed doors and you don't hear anything about it. And unfortunately for Apple, everything it does is under so much scrutiny that an exploration of a direction, which companies should be able to do and they should be able to decide against making certain products. And I'm sure there are many small products that we don't ever hear about that Apple goes through with the same thing where they investigate them and they're like no we're not going to do that but this one was so huge and apple so big that we heard we heard about it so they said let's make a car let's see about

making a car and they worked on that for a couple of years and then at some point somebody said this is not working like this is either the german story cites sort of some leadership issues it sounds like to maybe the fundamental question of why are we doing all of these things? Does this all make sense? And so when they reorged, it seems like they said, let's go back to basics. Let's stop planning on building an entire car and start with the stuff that we're best at. And that will give us a foundation of technologies that we can then use in a car in the future. Or we can license it out.

Or we can have a partnership, which I always thought was the most likely scenario with some sort of strategic partnership and investment with a carmaker. That would have cars that were powered by Apple, but that Apple wouldn't buy a whole car maker or make a car by itself. I still don't know if Apple really wants to be in the business of being an OEM for car software, right? That seems unlikely to me. But still, there are lots of possibilities here. This could amount to nothing. Apple could go down the road with this. Road metaphor. Apple could go down the road with this and decide that it's a good product, but it's sort of outside of what Apple usually does and spin it off or sell it. Or Apple could decide to build their own car. They could decide to make that partnership or they could decide to license this technology to multiple automakers. Those are

all, you know, those are all possibilities. I feel like the Apple brand is so powerful that if you put this stuff in a car, you'd almost want to co-brand it or brand it. Even if, even if GM made it, you'd almost want to have it be like a Saturn was or something as a, an Apple kind of side brand rather than it being the automaker. But there's a lot of options out there. I don't know. I like the idea that they're going back to basics which is what what are we best at because building the car was is is completely outside of apple's expertise but the the hardware the technology stuff is and the software is in their wheelhouse not you know not for car specific but in the fact that that's a that's a thing that apple uh generally everybody would agree does well so we'll see on that one yeah i like the fact that that's a thing that Apple generally, everybody would agree, does well.

So we'll see on that one. Yeah, I like the idea that they've also got a little bit of a deadline. That was part of the report, right? That you got till the end of next year to prove this is feasible. And again, this is a blue sky project. There is every possibility that they will spend all this time and money on it and say, you know what? We don't need to do this. And people will say, well, that was a waste of time and money. Well, yeah, you know, that's R and D investment. You've got to, you've got to

investigate this stuff. If you think there's an opportunity there in your Apple and you've got all this money, you're trying to find the next big thing. It's just like what Google does. You're trying to find the next big thing so that you're always moving forward. And sometimes it doesn't work out. And I think it's a sign of a mature organization for them to put a lot of money into something and then say, you know what? It didn't work. And we're not going to throw more money at this

because this is, turns out, this is not where we want to go. And we're not going to keep chasing after the sunk cost of our investment into the car business. So, you know, I hope, I still believe that the car industry is going to be transformed in the next 10 or 15 years and i would love for apple to have

a seat at the table but uh you know i i like i actually really like the fact that they're trying to it seems like they're keeping a skeptical eye on this and that they're not believing like we're gonna we're gonna march in and completely transform with our brand new car that we drop in 2020 or whatever and instead are are maybe thinking a little more realistically there are many seats at this table that apple can take car maker doesn't have to be one of those seats yeah i agree and it's certainly not now right i think that i think that's the the big thing like leaving your options open for later is fine but do you need to do all of it right now and i think and i think they bit off maybe more than they could chew and then and then part of this reorg is that of saying why don't we go back to the focus on the stuff that that we're best at and pursue that for a while and see where it leads

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sometimes sometimes it's different go become a six colors member and you'll get the show we did this was my piece at macworld last week because i write a piece at macworld every week and this was uh because i went to arizona so last week i was in arizona i was in the desert getting all the um moisture sucked out of my body by the desert like it does and uh and i traveled uh with actually i brought my macbook air with me and my ipad and that was uh the first time i had done that in a little while where i really was uh had both of them there and that was uh it was instructive to me so the reason I wanted to touch on this today is for a couple of things I want to kind of do a check-in with us both like how we are using our devices still and if and how that's changing but also because in listening to you talk about this and then reading

the article even though I talk to you every week on the show i was given a much kind of refreshed and greater insight into the fact of just how important the ipad has become for you um in a way that i don't think me or you would have expected um before the ipad pro yeah sometimes writing makes you realize things about yourself that i found i wrote the article and it was a bit of a journey for me by the time I got to the end. So basically, this piece is kind of going into detail about the way that the iPad and the Mac are occupying roles in your life, especially focusing on when traveling. But I thought maybe check into this in a bit more detail. So I guess one of the things that is a constant thread, it's been something we've spoken about for so long,

is podcasting, right? And there's kind of been some advancements in this. I know that you use and love Ferrite, which is a great application for podcast editing. And there's kind of another thing that I've been thinking about, which I wanted to touch on. So it's not so much for me anymore, the edit, because I know that there are tools that can do this. It's not even so much for me anymore, like the Skype thing, because it doesn't work very well, but you can kind of make it happen, right, by using multiple devices. But the other

thing that I've found these days is when I'm traveling, I'm usually traveling to places where I'm going to be recording shows. That's one of the main reasons that I would take a laptop with me for that reason now. And I have recognized that a key hole, which I can't perceive being fixed anytime soon, backup recordings and this is something that's very important to me whenever i record a show i have three recordings running i have core recorder i have audio hijack and i have the backup that's coming from the streaming system yep and this is because i have lost calls i have had bugs i have have had crashes. And when I am recording these shows to provide for my living, right, it becomes very important that backups are essential for this. Because if this was just me and you and we had our show that we just did together and, you know, maybe we had sponsors or maybe we didn't.

And it crashed and, you know, we'd lost the show and we couldn't rerecord because of our schedules. Okay, like we'll just move it to the next time. But we need to put these shows out every week because it's a business, right? This is part of a business. We do this because we love this, but it is an important part of the way that me and you make money. So losing a show is like the worst possible thing that could happen. Sure. So I now, like I think my key thing now and i know i

keep moving the goalposts on this but this is kind of just the way it's going to have to be there has to be the ability to not only record and only be able to hear someone not only be able to have the interface for these devices but also to have backups yeah it's uh it's true that this is still what I said to Dan in the secret podcast was you can do a lot of things. Like 90% of the things I want to do, I can do on my iPad. And then that other 10%, some of them you can work around them and some of you can't. But some of the workarounds put you on the razor's edge. you on the razor's edge. And that's exactly what you're saying, which is you can do it, but you have no latitude, no chance of recovering from a failure if you do that. And I don't love that. And I think we'll get there on iOS. I think one of my realizations

that came out while I was writing that article is, have I bought my last Mac laptop ever? I don't know that this MacBook Air that I have is my last Mac laptop ever, but it's an i7 from 2013. It's powerful. Yeah, it's an 11-inch screen and non-retina, which means that it's dwarfed by my iPad screen, but it's very powerful. I can add a podcast on it. I can do all of my, I can generate charts for six colors. I can do all that stuff on it. And then I think, okay, so I can use that for another couple of years easy. And then I think, okay, what's the iPad going to be like in a couple of years? Because if the iPad in the next two or three years closes the gap on all the other features that uh it currently can't do and the mac can do then in a couple of years again i'll be in this

position of what why do i need to buy a laptop because i now my ipad can do all those things so i find it funny and it may very well be that i buy another mac laptop but i find it funny that i actually wonder now if I will ever do that or if I don't need one. By the time I need to buy a new Mac laptop, will I need to buy a Mac laptop anymore? And I don't know. It sort of depends on how Apple does with the iPad. There's some key things that it needs to add, but it's just a funny thing. And the other realization I had was about essential hardware. And I know you've felt this way too. My iPad's coming with me, right? My iPad is not ever going to be left at home. That's never going to happen. That is an essential part of my travel kit. The MacBook is optional. The MacBook, I have to think about,

do I need to bring it? And I thought that was a really funny turn too. And again, I'm not the average user. Everybody's going to be different. I've heard from people who said, I feel exactly the opposite and that's fine. But I had a strange realization about myself that, that for me, that MacBook is like optional tech that I might not, I might eventually not ever need again. And that's weird because that used to be the computer I used. That used to be the device I used for 100% of my work. That very laptop. I guess a key thing to just mention, this isn't the Mac.

It is Mac laptops. Yeah, we should talk about that because I am sitting at a Mac right now. You are too. My work day is at a mac i don't use i mean i use an ipad to get work done but when i am at work at home here sitting at my desk um my 5k imac is my device of choice this is where i do almost all of my work all day long so it's not it's not that but in the context of of travel or of going out in the other room going out to the living room of the house things like that the mac is rarely involved

now it's sort of sit down at my desk do my work use my professional tools write articles things like that so do you only sit at the mac when you're writing or recording? No, I mean, I do other stuff. I'm moving files around and I'm doing email and things like that. I mean, this is home base. I will take breaks from this and go in the other room and maybe do some stuff on the iPad. But when I'm working, I'm at the Mac. And so Slack and Twitter and all that

other stuff is happening here. What I try not to do is read a lot on the Mac because I know that I could just read those articles on the iPad and that would be better. I should basically stand up, stretch my legs if I want to read an article, like use iCloud tabs or whatever to just open that article on my iPad in Safari and read it there. But when I'm at my desk, I'm using my Mac. I'm very focused on it. It's 27 inches diagonal. There's a lot of room to put Windows. Lots of stuff is going on.

Yeah, I purely consider my Mac as a focused tool. It is something that I use to produce podcasts and videos. That's what I'm doing with it now. I've been spending more time at the Mac recently than usual because I've also been using Final Cut, right? So that is large, large, large amounts of time spent editing in Final Cut. And it's funny, I've noticed in the last few weeks that my computing life has lacked some delight. And I think it's because I've been spending more time with the Mac.

And for me, I enjoy computing on my iPad. The Mac, it's like, this is work stuff. This is like projects to be done, work to be completed. But when I'm on my iPad, I find it a more pleasurable experience. Like reading Twitter, checking Slack at the Mac is just not fun for me. So that was the moment that actually prompted this entire article for me was I'm in Arizona and I had the MacBook Air out because I needed to do something that was on the macbook air and then i found that i was not um i found that then i was looking at slack or something i sort of completed my task

and i had like slack and twitter going and i thought i need to put this away like i i now now i'm in the slack and Twitter zone where I'm just reading things and interacting with people. And the reason, and I, I would have a better experience on my iPad. And that was when I closed the laptop. And that was, that was just a funny moment of, there are things that the Mac can do, but I greatly prefer them on the iPad. And it's not like, I think like I have pains when I use Slack on my Mac here in my office, but if all I'm doing is looking at Slack and Twitter and reading articles on the web, the Mac is not, is the worst tool for that compared to the iPad. It's a worse tool for that.

It just is. For me, it's, it's less ergonomic.'s less comfortable there's i would much rather have a little thing i can carry around with me than to sit at a desk or sit in in like typing pose on a laptop with a a small non-retina screen tilted you know and some of that could be you buy a bigger laptop and all those things and solve some of that but it just it was that that moment of realization that there are things that there's certain modes that i would prefer to do on my ipad and not my laptop so it's funny that we've gone to here talking about ergonomics though you mentioned in the article um about some of the issues of using the ipad when writing when traveling with the 12.9 because you don't have a way to kind of comfortably rest this on your lap. Yeah, 12.9 is big and I love it.

And I think it's actually a great sort of disembodied screen. And I think with an external keyboard at a table or a desk, it's fantastic. But it's not something you can really put in your lap without a case that adds so much bulk that I've tried all those cases or many of those cases and I don't like them at all because it makes it huge. And so I end up compromising and not writing. When I'm at my mom's house with just the iPad, I go to her table and I put down my Bluetooth keyboard and my iPad and I sit there and write. And it's not great ergonomically, but I can do a lot of writing.

And with the MacBook Air, I actually wrote a couple of articles sitting on one of her couches with the MacBook Air in my lap. And I realized, well, this is nice. I don't have to be at the table like I do with the iPad, which is not to say that the 9.7, I keep coming back to the 9.7 inch iPad Pro with that Logitech keyboard is like an amazing portable writing tool. But I prefer the 12.9, and that's the one that I bought is the 12.9-inch iPad Pro. And so I prefer that one. And that one is a harder sell as a write-on-your-lap kind of device. You can balance some things on your lap like the smart cover but

it's not it's not great it's yeah so i was writing the show notes this morning on the couch with my 12.9 inch ipad in my lap using the smart keyboard so like i think what way i was thinking about this is it can be done like i do it all the time however we're doing very different things and i imagine sitting and writing for an hour i don't know if i would want to do that yeah like i have it in my lap and i'm like typing out an email and then i just carry on but it's not a great experience i imagine to sit and do focused writing it's not it's not great i mean i can write an email just in the software keyboard too i can write an article on the software keyboard too, but you're, you're trading off every, every little bit has some, some trade off about it.

And I just, you know, the laptop is really great. It's designed to sit in your lap and let you type and you don't need to, it's a laptop, right? You don't have to have a table. You can just put it in your lap and the iPads are not as great for that, especially if you don't have an accessory. And, uh, yeah, it's a,. And yeah, it's a challenge there. But I don't know.

It was the iPad as capable as it is. It reminded me of all of the things that it can't do that, as I was saying to Dan, because Dan's going to be making an international trip pretty soon for an extended period of time. And one of the things that I said to him was the iPad is not flexible in the same way that the Mac is like, you, you know what the iPad can do, but the, the Mac can do anything like the Mac can do anything you need. If any, any eventuality while you're traveling that you need to do something, you know, you can, you can find a

way to get the Mac to do it. And the iPad, there are lots of things that are like on the little on the edges and you realize, oh, I can't use the iPad for this. I need a Mac now. And so that, that's just where we are. And there, there are, there's software. You've got a, you've got a bit here in the show notes. I mean, there's so many things that, that the Mac can do that there are sometimes workarounds for on iPad, but sometimes not like, you know, having, having the terminal, having command line stuff in the that the Mac can do that there are sometimes workarounds for on iPad, but sometimes not. Like, you know, having the terminal, having command line stuff in the terminal,

having scripts and automator stuff, which again, there are workflows, but they aren't necessarily as powerful and can't do everything. The file management stuff is problematic for, ding, hi Merlin, right? Because file management, like, you put in an SD card and it thinks that it's for photos and videos. But what if you've got a Word file on there or an

audio file on there? You should be able to open those in an app on your iPad because your iPad has an SD card connected to it, for Pete's sake. And yet, you can't because, as far as the iPad's concerned, SD cards only contain photos and movies. That's it. So that's another limitation. We do a lot of audio work, right? There are all these audio plugins. There are a few audio plugins that are available on iOS, but it's a brand new kind of interface on iOS.

And most of the stuff that I use is not available in an iOS version. And so if I want to line up my files and denoise them before i start editing them and i want to edit on my ipad guess what i prep all the files on my mac and then i edit them on my ipad it's not a full on ipad experience so you know the list goes on depending on what you're what you're doing like uh six colors charts yeah yeah at an apple event right the six colors charts i have a whole thing where i'm actually just taking screenshots on my mac but they're retina size and then i run a script and it uploads them and all that well i can do that

on my ipad but it is very much a more painful process because i have to take an ipad screenshot and then i have to crop it using a different app and then i have to crop it using a different app and then i have to upload it using a workflow and it's and uh so when the last time i took a trip with my mac it was because there were going to be apple results while we were on the trip and i didn't want to commit to doing charting on my ipad where time is of the essence and building those charts on the iPad is just going to take three times as long as on the Mac. So I think it's like, it's the legacy of this platform that enables these things. It's the legacy of the Mac platform because, you know, we know how we use computers and this thing can just

be used as a computer, but ipad is a different computer it's a new thing so it can't do all of that stuff but just different stuff like for example like i was just i mean look people will have their ways of doing this but i needed to download a youtube video i don't even know i don't know how to do it on the mac there isn't a way to do that you'd have to get an app i don't know what app to get yeah i have a safari plugin that does that sure i mean i have no doubt that there are things that do it but for me the easiest way to do it was to open the workflow app yeah and run a download youtube workflow which i have and then just airdrop it back to the mac again to put into final cut and it's because i think i am of a different i am of a like a different mindset i'm of a different

age isn't the right phrase because there are people um that are younger than me and know how to do all of this stuff easily on the mac but i'm like of a different mindset of the way that i've been brought up in computing you know not as somebody who has ever really bothered to be very focused on code and all the rigmarole. I'm talking about things like Terminal, and I'm talking about the command line utilities, and AppleScript, and all that sort of stuff. This stuff just doesn't make any

sense to me, but what I am able to do is to understand something like workflow, which just makes a ton more sense to the way that I work. Yeah, and and workflow i find workflow doesn't make a lot of sense that there it's it's even more like automator you have to you have these blocks that do very strange things and you're you're because your vocabulary is so limited you have to do like five steps in order to get it to do something that should probably only take one or two and i understand and you know i end up going to federico fatici and saying what am i or fraser spears what

am i doing wrong here like what why how and and sometimes their answer is that should work um and then they'll think about it and they'll figure out that even for somebody who's very well versed in workflow stuff that uh it's more complicated than they really thought and then they'll send me something i'll be like oh i would never have guessed that you had to go through those steps and and but you're right it is sometimes it's generational or it's at least it's really contextual like command line i don't love the command line but like i've got some command line utilities that do incredible things for me like um you know marcos talked about on atp has this app called sidetrack which is a private beta, but it it lines up all the audio files of a

podcast. And it's a command line utility. And I wrote a very short automator action with some Apple script in it that basically in the end, what it does is it lets me click on a file and say sidetrack this in the finder. And I don't have to go into the terminal. I do it all using the user interface and that's great. And the Mac lets me do that. If I was on iOS and even if I had that binary, which I don't know what that would be, but even if I did, how would I enable that? And I think that's, that's, it will all, I think it will all come right. But it's right now it's it's just, we have, we have a complete platform and we have a still building platform and that's the difference it's like if you want to be able to

do everything use the complete platform if you want to the the the building platform has a lot of value but it's just not um it's just not all there yet now i don't think that I'm out of the woods of buying Macs. I think I will be buying a new Mac laptop this year because my needs are different. You travel a lot. I travel a lot, and I want something that's thinner and lighter than my current MacBook Pro for the times where I do want to take the laptop, which are becoming less and less, but it still exists as a thing when I travel,

and I want to be able to record, and there isn't any other solution. I want to have my Mac with me to do that. Especially now, also I expect that every time I leave, I'll be working on videos as well, so I definitely need for Final Cut. So I want something that's thinner and lighter than what I currently have, which means that it is likely that I will be purchasing a new laptop this year, but it remains to be seen which one. I've thought about it because I hear, you know,

the temptation of a MacBook that's much thinner and lighter and also has retina. If I felt confident that that would be a tool that I would need for the next five years, I would be more interested in that, but mine is in a pretty good place. You also travel a lot, and you have tools that have to be run. You have work that has to be done on a Mac, and that there aren't really any good solutions for that now. So that all pushes it in the other direction. But for me, I've been able to get away in most cases without the Mac and occasionally I will bring it. So we're going to Ireland in a couple of weeks and I am bringing a Mac there.

And there are a couple of reasons for that. One is Lauren needs a Mac because she's got some stuff that she has to do for this organization that she's a part of that requires basically Excel macros that I wrote for her to simplify her workflow for that. So she needs that. She needs a computer that's got Excel on it with macros. And then I've got enough podcast editing and stuff to do that I really need to bring that to and to read off of a memory card. So what are you going to do that i i really need to to bring that too and to read off of a off of a memory card so you know what are you going to do you gotta read off a memory card you got to bring your card reader and my card reader is apparently a macbook so uh you know i'm i'm still going to bring that a mac is still going to come with us because it has to i will not be

bringing a mac to ireland monster well actually I don't think I will be maybe I will be we'll be doing an upgrade there I will be the only reason I will be is when I'm away I'll need to publish Cortex see that requires a Mac unfortunately

that's a shame if I wasn't doing that then I wouldn't be bringing one because when me and you record i would just use your laptop right which is how this is like the thing that i've been doing recently like so when we were in portland i just kept like stealing steven's computer to do anything so you need a mac it just doesn't have to be your mac that's all that i care about to be honest let's put it in that bag talking of bags yeah i wanted to

mention the bags that i use so for carry-on i have a bag called the topo mountain briefcase that i love very much it is a briefcase slash backpack slash messenger bag it has like three different ways you can carry it i've used it for a long time. It is my like airplane travel bag now. And I get a surprising amount of stuff inside this bag. It served me very, very well. But then I also, when I'm out and about in London, or I usually take this with me on trips in case, you know, looks I'm out when I'm out and about walking around is the Tom Bin Rostretto, which is a shoulder bag. And it's kind of made for smallish devices, but like laptops and stuff.

So I've been very happy with that. And also I will give a shout out to Knock Co, Brad Dowdy, my co-host of The Pen Addict. He has a Kickstarter running for a bag right now called Delania, which I have been using more and more. It's kind of of like it is not meant to be like your daily bag it is a briefcase but it's a bag that you would take to a conference i'll be bringing mine to all um and it will be the thing that i would carry my ipad downstairs to the conference room with that kind it's that

kind of bag you know so i'll put a link in there you can still back the kickstarter for the next couple of days and then it will be uh you'll they'll be making it later on but if you want it you should get one i have one he's i got sent a prototype one and i love it and uh i've been using the timbuk2 laptop messenger bag some um we got one we got those back at idg and i still use that a lot um Um, and it fits my, I can actually put my iPad and my MacBook air together. They can snuggle in the, is that your bag that has the tech hive logo on it? Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. That's a Timbuk2.

And, but I have lots of other, I have lots of other bags too. I have a Brent Haven backpack that I've had for like 15 years that is still kicking that I love, um, that they don't make anymore. I actually found one on eBay the other day and I couldn't believe it because they don't, they haven't made it in 10 years. And I, I really love that backpack and I'm worried that it's going to die. So I, I, I spent 20 bucks and I bought, I bought the, the eBay of the same on eBay, the same one just to have another one. Cause I love that backpack. What is the name of the Timbuk2 bag that you have?

They have many laptop messenger bags. Well, I think it's called laptop messenger bag. I think, I think that's actually what it literally, what it's called is a, is a laptop or custom laptop. I mean, it's a custom.

It's probably custom because they have custom laptop. They have classic laptop. They have commute laptop. We're going to go with custom. I think it's custom classic messenger bag, but I'm not 100% on that one. We'll go with that. We'll just assume that's the one, right? People can work it out from there

that's basically what it looks like i want to round this topic out with a thought experiment right with you oh you're going on a trip and you can only take one device oh and this is a trip where you will need to be working on what device do you take uh i would say it depends on what i'm what i'm working on during the trip like am i editing podcasts am i recording podcasts on skype am i recording things locally am i doing apple apple uh quarterly report charts um all of those things if i if i could only choose one it would depend on those because often i will only bring the ipad pro but if i was in a case where i was doing things where i literally couldn't do it without a mac then i would have to choose a mac because i would otherwise be unable to do them

so my feeling would be i would take the ipad and just work it out yeah well that's i can see that if i knew in fact if i knew i've had that happen where i visited my mom because she used to have a macbook pro and she doesn't anymore she just uses the ipad and when she had the macbook pro there it gave me this other level of confidence of like well if i need to do something i could just use her macbook pro but now that she doesn't like so visiting my in-laws in Orange County, they have an iMac. And actually, my mother-in-law has a MacBook Air too. So it's like, I don't have to bring a Mac with me and I can work it out. But if I'm going somewhere, so if I was going to Ool, which I am, and I'm fairly confident that there will be Macs there, right?

I could probably work it out, but I'm not going to. right? I could probably work it out, but I'm not going to. So if you said you're going someplace where there's no other technology and you need to do things that require a Mac, then I would, at that point, I would start to think, do I really want to get a Retina Mac laptop so that I can have the Retina with me and take Retina screenshots screenshots and things like that then i would start to think about that but you know generally they let you take a laptop and an ipad with you when you travel so that's good ladies and gentlemen open your imsg applications find the correct sticker you want to hold down on the up arrow, select lasers, because it is time for hashtag ask upgrade. Set with lasers. Steve wants to know, for a new iMac purchase, would you recommend a Fusion Drive or SSD plus external hard drive?

I have lots of photos. I have not even considered or thought about Fusion Drive for a long time. It just fell out of my memory. That's what fusion drive is for right if you've got if you need a lot of space it gives you the speed of the ssd but the storage capacity of a spinning hard drive and so i i think i think either of those is probably fine to steve the external hard drive will give you a little more flexibility but you're also going to have a thing that you have to plug in.

The advantage, you know, you can get a different one. You can take it to a different computer. All of those things are not true with the Fusion Drive. It's inside your iMac at that point. I opted for SSD, but I have an external hard drive. Essentially, I have a server with a giant storage area on it. You've got an external hard drive. I have a couple. For yours, right?

Yeah, I have a couple that I use. I keep actually two plugged in at all times for different things because one of them needs to be taken out and moved around more than the other. The other is basically just what I refer to as just – it's actually just called cold storage. It's just where I put stuff and it stays forever um like large things i have some just weird files and etc on there uh and one of the things that will be built into mega office will be some kind of network attack storage when i when i get around to that right i personally would say go ssd and external hard drives just

because it gives you more flexibility. And if you have the ability to do it and it's easy enough, just get a Thunderbolt something or other or depending on the computer that you end up buying, whenever you buy it, there might be other options like USB 3 or whatever. I just think that that's just way better. I just have an inherent distrust for Fusion Drive. It just seems

super strange to me and like yeah i i feel like that there's just more likelihood of something getting broken somewhere along the way i don't know i think i think fusion drive is fine but yeah i would say if you can afford to not and have an ssd and an external hard drive the exceptions there are if you can't afford to do that or if you really don't like desk clutter if you really don't like the sound of spinning hard drive enclosures because that can be an issue where there's you've got a noisy you know ticking thing on your desk that is the spinning hard drive then again if you only need that in certain circumstances and you can have it off other circumstances then that's fine too so it really sort of depends on those kind of specific things but all things being equal yeah

i agree ssd and then have an external big external hard drive for you to use when you need the huge storage of your whole photo library talking about things that i'd kind of forgot existed brent asked is there any benefit to running more than one content blocker on iOS? I mean, my feeling is I guess it depends what they do. Like, I don't know if it's worth running two just pure ad blockers if that's what you're looking to do. I feel like at a certain point, you're just going to be blocking, blocking, and blocking, blocking.

Like, I don't really know how far it will take you. But there are content blockers that do different things. There is a content blocker that I actually do run, that I always forget is on. I think it's called Cookie Jar or something like that. And all it does is it stops the European Union cookie notifications appearing on sites. It's called Cookie something.

I'll see if I can find it. I can't even remember the name of it, but I'll find it somewhere. Cookiebox. Is that what it's called? Cookiebox. There you go. So I use that.

That's the only one that I've ever used because it just helps get rid of some of those when I'm going to websites from Twitter, links and stuff like that. I don't run any other kind of content blockers. Do you run any? I don't. It just is a thing to me where it's like, all right, whatever.

I'm not even really taking a moral stand on it. I just know how frustrating it is and how sometimes things don't work. We get people write to us every couple of days for the stuff to do with the membership where they're like i can't log in and this the the the first answer is do you run any content blockers because for whatever reason it just breaks stuff right so you know i just can't be dealing with that. Ads aren't that bad. Yeah, I've decided in general that I would rather see the ads than have weird, incompatible experiences that I have to troubleshoot. Yeah, it's just not worth it for me.

I don't get enough frustration out of it to feel like I need to turn them on. Steve wrote in so now the u.s department of transport says you cannot take the galaxy note 7 onto aircraft will this be something samsung can bounce back from i think it'll be tough considering right now it is a federal crime you take a note 7 onto a plane this is a quote that i found from the verge which is quoting the department of transport passengers who bring a note 7 onto a plane are subject to civil penalties of up to 179 933 where do they come up with these numbers dollars for each violation for doing this and could be prosecuted which could result in imprisonment of up to 10 years as well as the fine so i think that's pretty bad marketing for samsung right now um especially because like if i'm an air like if i'm an air steward and i'm

walking down the line and i see a samsung device do i know what a note 7 is or do i know i need to look out for samsung devices right i'm assuming that if you have any kind of samsung device you are being told to turn it off at the you know or at least you're being given the uh you know the eyeball somebody's checking you out is that a samsung device i mean like this is like at first it was you couldn't have them powered on but now if you have a note seven i don't know how they're checking what a Note 7 is or isn't. Like, I wonder what they're doing there. But they are saying you literally cannot board an airplane with it. I mean, frankly, if you still have one of these devices,

you need to return it. Like, they are effectively taking time bombs at this point. Any of them could set off in flame, right? Like, it is clear right now it doesn't matter what the battery is doesn't matter where it's come from samsung have stopped making this device i think they said they are killing the note brand like it's over like you just need to return it now i think like i'm afraid the dream has to die well what if you have a note 5 right it doesn't look that different if you've got it

in a case the edge the edge is about the same size the the 7 edge it just doesn't have the pen i mean it is a if you're a samsung phone owner right now this is a tricky situation to have to deal with every time you board public transport yeah this is not good for them this is really not good for them i think to add answer steve's question i think samsung will bounce back from it but it's going to cost them a lot and and it's going to take time and they're going to have to do some perhaps unintended product redesign like not just the external but like or not just the internal but the external and they're going to have new branding and they're really going to have to relaunch their product line in order to get out

of this and there will be a hangover. And it will be a few years before I think they will get back. I don't think they're going to exit the phone business. I would be shocked if something like that happened. But I think they're going to be in jail for a little while. If Samsung is good at one thing, it is product marketing. In the sense of whether it's good or it's bad, they make sure everybody knows a lot

of it like and sometimes that's all it takes though right just blasting and they are good at that they are good at endorsement deals they're good at getting their phones in rap videos like they're good at this stuff like they they understand how to do that well that's why samsung that's why samsung is the most successive successful android phone manufacturer honestly is because they they saw the potential of this market and made an investment up front in huge marketing huge marketing and there was a time when the samsung phones were really not notably different or better than any other android phones out there i would argue but they were the ones spending more than apple on marketing and they

established themselves as the brand to be and they beat out you know motorola and the verizon droid marketing and all that they really they really owned it and they're gonna have to use you know that investment is kind of blown now to a certain extent and they're gonna have to spend more time but i i have no doubt that they'll bounce back it's just going to cost them time and money like at this point it is argued that they do make the best android phones as well but i agree that like initially when it was like earlier on whether they made the best phones or not they were getting ahead because of their marketing and now it's kind of like an inertia thing right the marketing's continuing but they're also considered to be making great devices now they've kind of lost the latter of those two points because whether the devices are great or

not if they're catching on fire or if they're known to catch on fire that kind of undermines your product innovation so i think they're going to struggle i think that there is a possibility there is of course a possibility this ends their phone division but it won't be a decision they make now i think it will be depending on how the next couple of revisions phones do like if people decide not to buy their phones because they're scared they're going to catch on fire that's only a couple of revisions away like a couple of like product cycles away from ending up not doing that anymore i suppose my money would be on the fact that they are able to revive the division and and push ahead again but the possibility is definitely there yeah i i i can't see it happening it would it would require a complete rejection by the market

and i don't think that'll happen also because the the there are so many other samsung phones that are that are fine that are that are not covered in this. It's really just the Note. And I feel like they will... The only thing I would say is I think that the pride of the Samsung brand is going to be a factor here too, where they're not going to... Like one thing to do would be to just create a new brand

for phones made by Samsung and do that. But they're not going to do that because Samsung is all about putting its own name on everything it makes, whether it's a washing machine or a phone. And so they're not going to go away from that. So maybe the Galaxy brand goes away or maybe the Note brand goes away

and the Galaxy brand stays and it gets called something different. We'll see, but I don't think they're going anywhere. They're just going to have to take the hit for two for two or three years no i find it very unlikely but i think it's just my point is like i think the likelihood of them going away is higher than other phone makers at this point right like they have a thing in that's happening to them which isn't happening to anybody else which is their phones are considered dangerous right like that is a you know it's a different it's a thing not working in their favor but i want to underscore i think they will rebrand

and they will bounce back but i don't think the next phone will bring them to the point where they want to be i think it will be in a couple years time for them to really establish themselves back on top of the pile there'll be a dip and then it'll slowly come back i think is what will happen and i do think the galaxy brand is gone i think the note brand is gone i think it's brand new branding that's yes change as much as possible dave has asked is there a way to see my purchased or downloaded imessage apps on a second device without just searching the store so my assumption of what dave is is asking is, how can I find out which apps I've downloaded on other devices? So the way that I do this is to look at the purchase tab in the

main app store. All of the apps that you've purchased or downloaded are in there. And if there's just sticker packs or just iMessage apps, they're identifiable by the oval icon. Well, I'm looking at on myhone at the purchase list and the um message apps all still just have round rec icons just like every other app uh no you're right jason i was wrong with that one so you're out a lot dave yeah there's no special way to filter just um things that have stamp packs i i am baffled by many things in the iMessage app store but one of the things that i'm baffled by is that there's no like purchased link to just filter your purchased um sticker packs or apps that contain sticker packs especially

because they don't sync yeah right because they don't sync from device to device so the only way you can do it is by going in and downloading them again well they do if you have if you have auto download apps on they'll auto download right but yeah but i don't yeah i mean who who really has that one for everything i I don't know. I don't know about that. It's not great. Jason asked, is there going to be any chance that the AirPod pairing process will come to the Apple Watch? I don't think that's needed.

The Apple already have a unique pairing process for the Apple Watch using the camera and then the little thing it displays. Oh, you read that way. I think this means to pair your airpods with your apple watch that's how i read it huh and my guess is that if you pair your airpods with your iphone that perhaps they will direct they will automatically pair with the apple watch

as well but it's a i think yes if i would be shocked if you can't fairly easily pair your airpods with your apple watch it would just be paired via your account like you what you'll do it via the phone as you say but i would think so for either of those so whether it's pairing the apple watch and the phone or pairing the airpods to the watch i think no for either of them i don't think there's going to be any change yeah i don't know if you if you try to pair the apple watch with uh with airpods if it will pop up a little thing that says you know let's let's do this or whether you need to do a standard bluetooth pairing with those i don't know whether they've added that into watch os yet or not but i would

think that they would make it as easy as possible to connect it if it isn't automatically connected when you're connected to uh the iphone if it doesn't also pair it with your apple watch i don't know and finally today landon asked how tall i am because because after watching my vlogs uh he was curious landon i am about six foot tall on the money um and if you are in europe let me find out what that is six feet in meters it's 1.8 meters tall how tall are you jason i am uh somewhere between 5 foot 10 and 5 foot 11 on a good day i'm 5 foot 11 on a bad day i'm 5 foot 10 this is one of those funny things where i was almost positive that you were taller than me. Absolutely not. Everybody that I know

I think is taller than me. I don't know what that says about me, but I'm sure a psychologist would have a field day with that. We are all much shorter than Andrzej Tomic. That's the important thing to note. By a country mile. Yes, he is. And that country is Slovenia.

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