Video Gamers Podcast - Advice from the Future - Gaming Podcast

Episode Date: October 24, 2022

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Today is a bonus round episode and we are going to be giving our past selves gaming advice or it might be us from the future giving our current selves advice. I know that might sound a little convoluted. Don't worry, it'll all make sense here in just a minute. Please take a moment to rate our show five stars and leave a written review. Also head on over to MultiplayerSquad.com where you can sign up on Patreon. You can support the show and get perks like two bonus Squadcast episodes every month. Again, you can do that at MultiplayerSquad.com. I am your host, Paul, and joining me,

he's wishing he could go back and tell his younger self to find some new favorite candies outside of Bottle Caps and Toffee. It's Josh. Hey, Pastel. Bottle caps and toffee are the best. Don't listen to Paul.

Oh. What is this, Slender from the Future? Can we do that? Sure, why not? We've got very advanced technology here on the show. All right, and joining me and Josh, he's wishing he could go back and tell his younger self to play some better space games like mass effect and halo

instead of elite dangerous he's now shaking his head in disappointment it's michael i resent 100 percent of what you just said it's it's appalling that you would even say something like that my past self should have actually hopped on elite dangerous much earlier i think even people that love all three games would probably still agree mass effect and halo are the uh the two winning winning ones in the bunch that's arguable arguably wrong all right well before we jump into this bonus round here we do want to give a quick shout out here to a patreon supporter we do have wayne01 who has signed up with epic status and we also want to give a very special thank you to current legendary supporter red letter and also epic supporters ace of shame yaya arizona yoda and papa thunderfist we don't have to repeat all

those back to you right now do we like no thank you everybody it's not a test i was like shoot i should have taken notes also you could just look on the discord server for the answers to the test too oh that's right just look up the gold names for legendary purple for epic and that'll let you know well to all those people thank you legitimately from our hearts yes thank you so much all right so this bonus round episode this is kind of an interesting one something that we've never tried before josh do you want to tell the people what it is that we're doing i paul i'm gonna give you full credit on this one because usually you are not the creative one when it comes up with topics it's usually either myself bouncing a bunch of really stupid topics off of you guys

or michael chiming in or you know you you have your moments paul but this was all you and you were like hey let's mix it up a little bit we're due for a bonus round we've done a tournament recently we did listener questions you were like let's get a little crazy and i was like yes paul like i like this and then so you had the idea that it would be really neat to do an episode where we give advice to our younger selves or we maybe maybe we we look into the future a little bit and we think what would the our future selves come back and tell us like right now but now that we're all older we're dads we're still gamers we have been our whole life come back and tell us like right now but now that we're all older we're dads we're still gamers we have been our whole life but it's kind of like what's some of

the stuff that you would go back and tell yourself uh about gaming or you know whatever and i was like dude that's actually a really neat idea like let's make it happen pretty brilliant we actually uh josh and i got together and we said we got to get some creative juices out of paul real fast he's slacking so we got together like a lime no what we did was we sorry to tell you this paul but we spiked your coke cola and no man we got ideas for like months now so stick around guys this shows if you like this show before it's about to get real good he gave us a lot of great content was that all the psychedelics that that i was experiencing i don't know what did you spike it with what did you see in the movie limitless yeah yeah yeah yeah we use that whatever that is oh yeah but my favorite part of it all is that i

told you guys i think this would be fun like you go back and you tell your younger self i but i don't know how you would word it and josh just immediately goes gaming advice from the future boom like this is this is why we keep you around josh you took my very convoluted idea you distilled it into like six words and it made perfect sense uh which is great because he actually names all the episodes so it's like all right we got it yeah so there we go somebody's like these episode titles are dumb now they know who to blame yes you can blame josh if you don't like the episode names i i will say the cyberpunk episode title was a little vanilla but it got the job done i believe just going for the purity of the episode paul you know the title was cyberpunk 2077 and I was like, all right, that works.

Everybody knew. They knew right away what they were getting. That's true. I'm glad that you were called Vanilla. I was called out for being Vanilla in Discord last week by somebody else in the Discord. So you're the Vanilla of the week this week. I'm pretty sure because you said you would choose Vanilla ice cream out of all the flavors. You know, if you don't think about it, it's got a lot of ingredients anyways. Or if you do you know literally vanilla it's you know if you don't think about it

it's got a lot of ingredients anyways or if you do think about it like it's complex there's a lot of vanilla in there and there's what else is in there paul that's it it's an ice cream base and vanilla that's that's all it is okay so let's start getting into our gaming advice from the future the way we're gonna do this is we're just going to go around in a circle. We're going to read or say what our advice is to our younger self or our future selves talking to us now. And then we'll just provide some commentary and we'll just keep going in a circle till we run out of time. Does anybody want to volunteer to go? I'm going to go first.

I'm going to get this party started because I ain't shy. All right, guys. Strap in, everybody. Here we go. This is kind of a funny story, too. You guys can tell me whether you want me to elaborate or not. Dear poor, naive Josh, who might make poor, snap decisions when it comes to video games. When you think you want to buy that $60 copy of Gauntlet Legends for your Nintendo 64 to play with your friends over the weekend, just don't.

First of all, you're poor. You really can't afford $60 right now. Also, you're going to play it for 30 minutes, then you're going to spend five hours trying to figure out how to re-shrink wrap the box so that you can return it against store policy okay first of all that is 100 a josh thing to try to return something oh i didn't try i did you got away with it i'm not surprised i gotta tell the story real quick So this is true I had some buddies coming over

It was Friday night We're like hey let's play We want a four player game Nintendo 64 Bought Gauntlet Legends on a whim This game sucked I realized oh my goodness I just wasted $60 What do we do?

I figured out I took a Ziploc bag Stuck it over the box, trimmed it, put the box in the oven with the cartridge in it, mind you, melted the Ziploc bag around the box. And this worked. Fiddled with it a little bit, took it to Walmart where I bought it. They said, no, you can't return this. I then took it to another Walmart across town who said, you just tried to return this to that Walmart over there. Wait, what? Yeah, because

their systems apparently link up. So they said, we can't take it. On a whim, I went to Kmart because Kmart's return policy was as long as you have the item, you don't need a receipt. So I bring this thing in. One seam on the side is completely split open. It's super thick plastic. It looks nothing like shrink wrap. I bring it to their customer service counter. I say, I want to return this. They say, do you have the receipt? I say, no. The lady starts flipping it over, looking at it. I see her picking at the plastic because you're not allowed to return it if it's open. And lo and behold, she just said, okay, okay she took it i got my money back my wife was she wouldn't even come in the store with me because she's like i'm expecting that you're

gonna get escorted out in like handcuffs but i got away with it i got my money back that's like brilliant that's genius i am actually like i i also during your story just pictured like walmart customer service they didn't have it in the system they were just calling being like hey this dude with this gnarly beard, just try to totally return this thing here. And it's bogus. So he's coming for you. Probably,

you know, the sad thing here is I loved gauntlet legends. Yes. I like gauntlet games. This one, I, maybe it was just the wrong time. Maybe it was the,

you know, nobody was planning on hanging out and playing this thing. It was also could be that I really didn't have the money to buy this game either. Right? Yeah. Oh, goodness. All right, Michael. I think we'll hit you next.

What advice do you have? So this one's a painful one. I talked about it once a long time ago when I had a buddy whose girlfriend basically hijacked our world of warcraft guild she stole it because you know if somebody if the guild leader world of warcraft is not online for 30 days then any officer in the guild can like basically petition and almost instantly take over the guild and what happened was she was like our off raid leader i don't even i didn't even know she was an officer but she basically stole the guild from us and um essentially, what she did was she sold everything we had. She stole all of our money, disbanded the guild, and ran off forever.

And that was very sad for me. And I really just want to look back and tell myself, you know what? It's going to be okay. Because you'll probably forget about it in like six months, which you did. You started a new guild and just moved on. Or I can go back in time and just be like, hey, I'll be the off-guild leader and we're not making her an officer. I don't know. One of those two

things, I just wanted to bring up this really painful point and just air my laundry for a minute and just bring it up and just whine and cry and listen for some sympathy. Now, do you know how many people were in your guild? Approximately four. There was like there was like 40. Well, we have like 40 or 50.

No, Michael and my girl okay listen okay we we had like we had a battered hilt that was tradable it was worth 15k she stole 15k from us okay no no really just kidding it was like 40 people that were pretty active it was a big guilt it was during firelands too so it was a while ago oh gotcha yeah yeah that would that would be during cataclysm that would be very sad and very upsetting especially if it's an active guild because now you're trying to either chase people back down or now you have to join a new one but i think that was i think that's good advice for your younger self michael i remember i don't remember exactly how the phrase goes but you know are you going to be upset about this in two weeks and if the answer is no then you shouldn't be upset about it at all or it's like are you going to be upset two months from now you know and just trying to have that kind of perspective

ultimately in the end it's all just silly digital currency but it's still sad yeah well and it was a lot of time because like we like she even like we couldn't she didn't technically remove the guild so we couldn't keep the guild name. And I tried to petition back, and Blizzard's like, no, that's the rules. What was the name of your guild? It was the Frothing Otter. The Frothing Otter. The Frothing Otter.

We were a well-known guild. I don't remember which server that was on. That was when we were server hopping a little bit. So I think that was the little stint that I did where we were actually um alliance which actually hurts my soul a little bit because i was alliance for a little bit i was i'm a horde guy for the horde you know baladesh melinore and all that stuff josh do you remember your guild name back in everquest pravis d okay i was in cons in world of warcraft i don't know if it was named after Khan from the Star Trek movie or what, but it was just Khans with an S at the end. And yeah, that was my guild.

No clue how it got started. It's funny how you don't forget those, though, either. You know? Or the guild drama. I remember being involved in some serious guild drama from time to time. You know? People like...

I don't know what it is. People like that stuff, I think. Even though they hate it, like, there's this weird thing where it's like, it just makes you care more, I guess? I don't know. Yeah. No what it is. People like that stuff, I think. Even though they hate it, there's this weird thing where it's like, it just makes you care more, I guess. I don't know. Yeah. No, it is,

because the relationships are formed and stuff. Truly, the guild drama, it happens all the time. And there's always that one person. Everyone knows that one person in every guild that they're like, hey, we need to have this person kind of mediate this,

because they're like that caring, compassionate soul that's knowledgeable. And it was always like, hey, he can talk about it, because I don't know how to approach this subject with this drama. Yeah. All right. Well, let's go ahead and move on to the next one here. I think it's my turn.

So, you know, hi, Paul. I know it's summer of 2020. I know that you're currently dealing with the early days of COVID. You're repainting your house because you're stuck at home much of the time. And I know that you're currently dealing with the early days of COVID. You're repainting your house because you're stuck at home much of the time. And I know that you're really bored right now. But what I want you to do, I want you to go on YouTube. And I want you to follow somebody. Now, this is a guy who does analysis of the stock market.

I know this is going to sound crazy. I know that you buy all of your games digitally. And I know that they've just closed the too close to store locations to you but my advice is to go follow a certain person named roaring kitty aka dfv because it's family friendly server aka keith gill and there you go i mean this is the best gaming advice I can give my younger self. Invest in GameStop. Yeah, GME, baby.

Oh, to the moon. Oh, man. When that happened, I was floored by it. I'm like, wait, this is real? You can do this? It was real. It was very real. And part two of the advice would be just wait until January 2021. You'll know when the time is right. ignore the diamond hands memes all of that garbage you'll know when the time is right to sell

that's a that's a that's good sound advice yeah oh you know somehow i think I'm the only person in America that somehow lost money on both GME stock and Bitcoin. I have so many friends that maybe made money on one, lost on the other, or made money on both. Somehow, I just ended up in the negative overall. I wound up breaking even, but I could have been up a lot. Well, yeah, we all saw there for a bit. I broke even, so am I happy about that? Or could we have up a lot. Well, yeah, we all saw there for a bit. So it was like, I broke even. So am I happy about that? Or could we have made a lot of money?

I just always look back and think, man, I'm a single income family of five. I would really like to invest money right now, but I can't because my kids need school supplies. And so I just have my 401k. I've never really... I got a few stocks. But Paul, it's funny because you just reminded me.

It's almost like you were giving yourself Gray Sports Almanac. Remember Back to the Future 2? Yeah. Go back in time and be like, you need to bet on this game, bet on this stock. You just gave yourself Gray Sports Almanac. I love it. That's exactly what I was going for. Now, question for you guys.

When's the last time you bought something in person at gamestop uh red dead redemption 2 stood in line for the midnight release for the midnight yeah that that would have been my answer the only little caveat is i did buy the super mario 3d all-stars i think it was called and i had that delivered by doordash from gamestop to my house because that was during yeah yeah this is during covid where they were delivering for free and so i was like well i could go in person or i could just have them drop it off for free same day so other than that one purchase from gamestop yeah everything these days is just digital but i'm still loving the rebound with gamestop i really hope that they just keep roaring

back i hate to see those companies go out of business i i love gamestop always have ever since that one guy told me to buy the the pre-owned oblivion expansion because he's like listen we can take it back for any reason whatsoever no reason we won't even ask within one week and i'm like no it's only a dollar cheaper than the new one and the guy was like no listen you buy the used one you can return it for no reason whatsoever he's like you just put the disc in and you never use the disc again because it downloads and i'm like he's telling me i can get this for free ever since then man i've been just game stop 100 last thing i bought there though was definitely um but up until like a decade ago because i can't remember when the last thing i bought was but but I bought my daughter...

We were looking for a Switch cover for... I'm sorry. Yeah, Nintendo Switch. That's the new one, right? I keep wanting to say Wii, but no, it's the Switch. The Wii's going back a few years. Yeah. All right, Josh.

Swinging back your way. All righty. Oh, boy. This is one that I regret to this day. So, young Josh, when you go to Toys R Us to buy that Nintendo you've been saving up for all summer long, and you walk in filled with excitement, you see the pallet where the Nintendo should be, and it's completely empty. Don't buy the Sega that's sitting right next to it. There's a reason that the Nintendos are sold out and there's a stack of Segas sitting right next to it. I know you're impatient.

I know you've been saving. I know you want something right now. But trust me, wait the three or five days or however long it's going to be before they get more Nintendos in stock and go get your Nintendo then. Don't buy the Sega. Sega sucks.

Clarify which Sega. Sega Master System. Not the Genesis. Not the Genesis. This was the Sega Master System because it was the first Nintendo. Right. Yes. Like Sega Genesis versus SNES.

Arguably, some people would say either one's better, but that's like, dude, how long? Like Sega Genesis versus SNES. Arguably, some people would say either one's better. But that's like, dude, how long? I want to know how long did it take you before you were like, oh, oh, no. A couple days. The new and the excitement was there. It was my Sega. I think I was playing Alex Kidd and Sonic.

And then my brother has a Nintendo. And then I'm looking and i'm like why aren't my games fun like your games yeah you know can i play your nintendo no and then it's like dang it so yeah i to this day i still regret that man wasn't that the summer that you did a bunch of work for your dad like digging ditches or something i dug a i dug like a 50 yard trench that was a good like two feet deep i like no lie this thing was massive and like that was what i had to use to get like the last 50 bucks that i needed that was the like child labor wise my parents got the best deal ever because I worked so hard for that. And then I couldn't even get my Nintendo. No one ever worked so hard for a master system.

Right. Nobody ever. Not even the creators. So that's my one that may be my biggest regret as a kid when it comes to gaming. Oh, especially because that's like a one. It feels like a once in a lifetime opportunity to buy a console it's a huge deal and that's a lot of money when you're a kid like how much were they they're like 200 i was gonna say like 200 bucks yeah but that's like astronomical when you're a

little kid you know oh why did i do it you know why because when you get it in your mind i'm going to buy this and it's not there you can't just turn around and leave empty handed. You go, I'm buying something. My kids do it all the time. You know, they want something and it's not there. And they're like, well, I'll just buy this. And I'm like, don't future Josh understands. If you have to talk yourself into it, it's probably not. Yeah, exactly. All right, Michael, what do you got, buddy? So I'm going to go back to the days of naivete with myself and talk about... I was like 18 years old, I think, for this one. I didn't play a lot of games. EverQuest had just come out. I don't know if there's going to be much to talk about on this

one, guys. But dear Michael, 18-year-old Michael, circa december year 2000 listen to me very carefully she's not really a girl what's this story whoa wait a minute who are we talking about here you know Mario Donkey Kong you know how it is like old days of like video gaming and stuff like like in EverQuest like you'd have most time a guy plays a guy character

girl plays a girl character well I was chasing after this bard forever like getting all flirty like 18 year old Michael thought he was hot stuff and everything and like I had this bard friend for like I don't know probably four months right and I would like bring her like was hot stuff and everything. And like, I had this bard friend for like, I don't know, probably like four months. Right.

And I would like bring her like weapons and stuff. And then it looked like, like maybe, maybe too long later I found out, no, that's a dude, dude. Like you don't need to.

Yep. And that's all I got to say about that. Like, I think everyone's done that before their life. Right. Where there's like, Hey, this is a,

this is a, there's a little half elf right there. She's adorable. Can't say I have there michael that's a man man dude all right we move on now pre mumble pre team speak pre voice over ip days yeah you you couldn't get too thirsty in mmos that's that's that's playing with fire yep and as long as you just always pretend michael right don't ever find out the truth but you see you found out the truth yeah no and i've played like like my my palette my blood of paladin was a female because i thought that blood of paladins were ridiculous this is where the warcraft not

ever so how many people hit on you right and i would be like i would literally be like i'm a dude dude like because it would happen like somebody would hit on you and i'm like whoa i'm like i'm a dude dude he's like why are you playing a female character i'm like because have you seen the male like blood elves they look ridiculous like they're awful look they were awful it yeah everyone gets it right there you go i don't know that we've all been there but i hear you michael all right let's move on to the next one here we are back up to me all right here we go hi paul it's now fall of 2020 i see you didn't take my advice about youtube you're still super poor that's cool it's all right i i know that you just bought a very expensive ps5 bundle that you're giving the family for christmas all right you're gonna want to go ahead and cancel that all right what uh well you know okay maybe maybe keep it and and scalp it

all right i'm i don't love the idea of doing that. You could probably turn some profit, but maybe you should just go ahead and cancel it. You're going to have that PS5 sit around for approximately two years, and the only game that you're going to have played is Returnal, which is a great game, very good, but to be honest, your PS5 is really just a very large paperweight. There's also this little thing that's really gaining a lot of buzz called game pass and i think you're going to want to go ahead and get an xbox series x instead oh except i have advice for future paul except yeah god of war ragnarok's coming out yeah i'd like to go it'll be well well. I think past Paul and future Paul would be arguing with each other because past Paul would be like, listen, future Paul, you didn't get to play God of War Ragnarok. I am better than you.

I'm smarter because this whole entire $600 system is way worth all of that game. We hope. We hope. Yeah. We hope. We hope, yeah. So what I was going to say is, now that I'm this far into the PS5, obviously I'm going to keep it until Ragnarok releases. But at this point, I think I might just sell my PS5 after Ragnarok. At this point, I don't really know what I'm holding onto it for. I mean, let's talk about that for a second, right?

Because honestly, if you have a PC, then you can play just about anything that's coming out on Xbox for it. I mean, PlayStation has always been about the exclusives, but the PS5 has been available since... When did it actually launch? 2020? In 2020. 2020. So it's two years, two and a half years that it's been out. And what exclusive game for the PS5 has made it worth a 500 console not worth 500 i mean there's good games like returner which is probably i believe they

announced it's going to come to pc eventually and that's the new thing you i josh you and i always said don't buy an xbox it's microsoft Every single game is going to be on PC. There's zero reason to have a gaming PC and an Xbox unless you want to use your living room TV. But now that Sony is releasing seemingly everything a year or two down the road, at this point, I think you just need a PC. I don't think I need a console anymore going forward. I think that we just gave great advice to our listeners present, not even past or future. That's great advice. But I mean, what world do we live in where having a PS5 is like, eh? Yeah. I kind of wish I hadn't bought it. Can you ever think of a console other than my Sega Master System? Right. Somebody's been like, I really wish I hadn't bought this console.

No. I never regretted my PS4. I loved every minute of it. My Xbox 360, my GameCube, my Nintendo 64, which was my very first console. All of them. I never once thought, man, I really wish I bought something else. But at this point, I'm thinking maybe I just sell it after Ragnarok and be done with consoles.

I mean, I guess we still have our Nintendo Switch. Like, if you want Nintendo exclusives, you still might want a Switch. But when it comes to just, like, Xbox and PlayStation, I don't think I really need either one at this point. No, and it's funny, because I just went through a whole journey in my head

of, like, it's almost like they're, like, Sony and Xbox specifically are, like, promoting to not even buy their consoles too because they're releasing everything else either later or right now. And I'm like, oh, that's probably because I've heard that they don't really make any money on the hardware. So it's actually kind of better for them just to do it the way that we're doing it and kind of phase out the console. Yeah. So I think that's a sad day press f to pay respects for paul's impression of playstations that's that's where we're at all right we're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back with more multiplayer gaming podcast

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All right. This one I have to do because, man, sometimes you really wish you could just give yourself advice. So, okay, Josh, when your co-workers dare you to try the cinnamon challenge, I know you want to accept. I know you want to accept because you can't pass up a challenge. But don't. I'm telling you, you almost die. And it's not pleasant at all. Yes, you do survive the ordeal. But you basically become reduced to a snotty, coughing, teary-eyed, mucus-covered pile of cinnamon and sweat and just terribleness. Don't do it. I know you think you can.

Trust me, you can't. Dude, what is it with these online challenges? Do you remember Chubby Bunny? No. Where it was how many marshmallows could you stick in your mouth, and it would be like 40? And some kids died because of it, and then you had the cinnamon challenge.

And people don't know, if you inhale it, that stuff will just stick to your throat and lungs. It's not cool. I was convinced that I could do this. And I was like, everybody doesn't swallow hard enough. You've got to just swallow it in one go. And so I went for the gusto. And when I went to swallow, dude, it made it halfway down my throat before it lodged. I coughed. I coughed out a massive cloud of cinnamon. But then I needed to try to breathe in. But your body will not let you breathe in when your throat is filled with cinnamon. I literally thought I was going to suffocate.

And then it was really funny for like the first like 40 seconds. And then I think everybody started getting scared because I still couldn't breathe. So then I'm like, I'm making this like retching sound. I'm trying to get whatever's in my throat out. I've got no oxygen. I'm basically choking to death. I did survive, but man, it was really, really dumb. Like I've i've done some some some dumb stuff where i'm like you know whatever okay like this one i'm like i could have died dude death by cinnamon challenge is kind of like low-key the most humiliating way to go yes he couldn't handle that spicy cinnamon i bet i smelled really good though yeah you'd certainly be a candidate for the Darwin Awards winner of the year. Yeah, so I know it had nothing to do with gaming, but I had to at least give myself that advice.

Like, it's not worth it, dude. Yeah. Since we're on the topic, funny enough, when my wife was working at a girls' group home, she would always bring all the kids over for like holidays and stuff like that to to our family gatherings and it was thanksgiving of whatever year the cinnamon challenge got popular i remember it was like right before thanksgiving and we lined up thinking this was a good idea all 10 girls who are wards of the state you know these poor girls are in foster care living in a group home they were all like 10 to 16 years old.

And we gave all of them giant spoonfuls of cinnamon. And what's funny is the only one that got it down was our future first daughter. So my oldest daughter took it like a champ, swallowed it, did not cough, got it down immediately. And I was like, oh, that's, did not cough, got it down immediately, and I was like, oh, that's my daughter right there.

She killed it. That's not why we adopted her. I was going to wait. Is this like a gladiator pit? It's like surviving one gets adopted. Whichever one swallows the cinnamon gets adopted. No, no, no. It was already in the works, but they were still living in the group home,

and my wife and I were working on getting licensed to bring in the sibling group. And so, yeah, Monica knocked it out of the park. I was so impressed. It was like my first proud dad moment because I didn't have any kids yet. I don't know how it's physically possible, to be honest, man. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, she's a very, very strong and stubborn person. Yeah. Like, she's the kind of person that could suppress those primal needs to cough and choke and oh my goodness yeah just wrestled it to the ground never again i i'm so happy i've never tried that before yeah yeah don't such a stupid challenge listen to future josh all right michael moving on to you yeah i'm gonna make all the old people cry with this one because and by old people i mean us and you know people at our age you know uh because this is like one

of those things that you just you wish was a thing and it will never be a thing again um i'm gonna tell myself in the past listen hey never say no to a land party because they're gonna go away and they'll never come back. Like we used to get together and we'd be like, we'd be like, Hey, so, uh, my buddy Carl has an Xbox. My buddy Shane has an Xbox. I've got an Xbox. Let's get together and bring all of our Xboxes and just play games in the same room. We could hook them up and do like the 20 person Halo game or whatever. Or even just, we'd bring all of our computers over and play like just any online game together and now like with just how it is now like with voice with you know voice chat with you know we you know discord and used to be ventrilo back

in the day and teen speak and all those things and all the online gaming land parties are just they're dead they don't happen anymore but they were so much fun we would do like a whole weekend and be like hey we're having every year my buddy. We would do like a whole weekend and be like, hey, we're having every year. My buddy Reese would have a video game weekend. I remember by the end of it, I was like, hey, I just I want to do other things. I don't want to come over the LAN party. I'll meet you guys next time. And I'm like, dude, now I need to go back and be like, never say no to a LAN party,

because when they're gone, you're going to you're going to miss them. And I do. I remember having an entire cabinet filled with networking gear just for the purpose of like landing like you needed a couple 50 foot ethernet cables you needed to have a couple switches because back then i remember the really nice switches that would have like 10 connectors were pricey so i had a couple of cheap four port switches. And so you'd pull them out, you'd have to daisy chain them all together, hook up everybody. Yeah, what good times. And yeah, that was such a short period of time where you had multiplayer games,

but it was not yet online and you had to do it in person. That was like a four to five year window, it feels like. Yeah, it was really short, but the ability to play with your friends were normally, if you were playing online, you were always with strangers. That's what set it apart, man. Yep. That's a good one.

Yeah. I really do miss those land days. That was a lot of fun. All right, Paul, what do you got? All right. Next one up here.

Uh, let's see. Okay. Here, here's a good one. All right. We're going to go back a little further for mine since mine have been uh all during covid all right hi paul from 2015 um i see that you

were able to get a rock band 4 band in a box for your playstation 4 uh rock on dude that that's awesome hey in like a year you're gonna be totally sick of Rock Band and you're going to think it's a great idea to just go ahead and sell the whole kit for like $30 to GameStop. Don't. Don't do that. You can find space. All right. Just find somewhere, a back closet, somewhere in the house. You've got bedrooms for your kids. Hide it in their closet, whatever you need to do. in 2022 somewhere around october 20th you're going to really get a hankering for rock band you're gonna look it up on amazon and you're gonna realize that a that a used kit is 900 dollars oh what you cannot play rock band

anymore unless you're willing to shell out hundreds and hundreds of dollars that is a used kit that is rated very good on amazon 899 oh my goodness really that hurts 100 and who knows how long that drum kit and the guitar are going to work because those things don't i was gonna say you know if you buy it like one of the drum panels is not gonna register one of the buttons on the guitar is gonna be broken oh i miss rock band so much i don't know if this is just me there are certain songs that i hear and i just immediately think rock band or i immediately think guitar hero like weezer say it ain't so every single time i hear it i just go right back to oh man i really wish i could play that right now in rock band i really wish i could never hear

that song again also i'm just saying if you had rock band paul i would be over to play would you really i really would yeah i'm not musical at all but i am not afraid to make an idiot out of myself either yeah yeah we're doing a we're doing a deep dive on rock band for sure. No, I used to, I used to play rock band and not even knowing like the words to songs, you could just hit the tones and the pitches. Yeah.

And so like with Weezer be like, well, that didn't work, but like, you don't even know the words. You can just hum it. And I found that like, I was actually better at rock band as the singer.

If I didn't try to say the words and just tried to hit the notes and it was like all right i guess i'm an instrument with my voice but there's no there's just noises coming out of my mouth you know i always loved the video games that came with all the crazy peripherals like i remember buying house of the dead with all the guns that you could point at the screen and shoot yeah and inevitably those games you get sick of them so fast and whether it's like the guns or the drum kit and the the microphone the guitars that stuff is so expensive to buy and it's almost worthless when you get bored of it because everyone got bored of it at the same time i remember donating uh my house of the dead guns to a church yard sale because GameStop was like, we'll give you $2 for it. And I was like, well, I'll just donate it to someone who at least could sell it or something. Pretend it's worth $1,500 tax write-off.

Yeah. There you go. But yeah, I really miss Rock Band. I always thought it was really great. Get a couple people together, just screw off, have some fun. And you can't unless you want to drop nine hundred dollars yeah i don't want to do that yeah that's that's insane that's that's crazy we need a new rock band i remember reading there was some issue with like licensing

and sales were down but i'm hoping maybe we'll get back into the swing of things and maybe they'll bring it back i'm for for it. All right. We're back to you, Josh. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Guy, guy, there's a portal opening up behind me. What the? Oh, what the? Oh, it's me. Josh, Josh.

This is Josh from the future. Yes, we get more handsome as we age. Stop staring at me. Yeah, I know how good we look and we're still fit as a fiddle. Listen, that's not why I'm here. I'm here to tell you that around 2024, maybe 2025, the next big MMO called Ashes of Creation is going to fully release. I know you've been tracking it for a couple years now

and I know it looks awesome. Well, it is awesome. It's everything you wanted an MMO to be ever since your EverQuest days. I know you think you've learned your lesson and you're too busy to get sucked into one, but I'm here to tell you it's probably best that you don't play it. You'll

like it too much and you'll have finally found that MMO you've been searching for for all the... Why are you pushing me away, man? No! I'm trying to warn you, Josh. No, don't push that button. You'll send me back to the future. Okay.

Where'd he go? The future Josh, I think, is a liar because there is no way Ashes of Creation is going to be that good. That's still me. Ashes of Creation looks incredible. It does. I just don't believe it's going to be that at release.

Well, future Josh just confirmed it, Paul. Oh, goodness. That is a definite deep dive if that ever comes out. It will never come out. What a very hopeful future, Josh. Yeah. How funny. I remember we covered a few updates along the way

of ashes of creation and finally at some point we're like all right let's just ignore this game until it comes out it's nowhere on the horizon anytime nowhere yeah all right michael uh since we're on a massive multiplayer online role-playing games i don't know why i felt the need to just say the whole thing like mmos now since we're on mmos um listen past michael i don't know what year it is i think it's year 2012 something like that but um i know how much you've been excited about star trek online i know how excited you are to move on from world of warcraft and play the next mmo that will be the warcraft killer i know there's like a million people playing this game in month one and i know that it's 15 a month you can only afford a little bit here and there

listen don't pay 300 for the lifetime subscription to Star Trek Online, which if you do the math is 20 months. And if you're doing the math, I know because you did this math, you're like, after 20 months, this game is free. I'm going to play this game for more than 20 months because the game is going to be free to play six months after it releases.

Past Mike, well, you're an idiot. Yeah, legitimately, it was $300 for a lifetime sub. And I'm like, oh, this is great. If I play this for 20 months, which I've been playing World of Warcraft for like seven, eight years at the time, because I didn't play right away when it launched. I was like, that's like $1,200 I put into World of Warcraft. $300

for a lifetime subscription to Star Trek Online. This is great. I played that game for like three months. Then three months later, it went free to play, and I was like, I felt very bird now i guess they do give you a lot of stuff in game still to this day if you got the lifetime sub but since i'll probably never go back and play that game it's like well i mean i've hit it every once in a while just to see a spaceship but not actually play it but that's insane it's a great

idea for them though because they're like hey we get all this money up front and then like nobody did it so free to play and i wasted three hundred dollars yeah dude the lifetime purchases are always so tempting but like do you guys remember tivo yep yeah oh yeah like everyone had tivo yeah do you do you remember replay tv a little bit maybe maybe you remember they were like the off-brand yeah they had where you had to pay monthly to use the dvr which of course you're already paying a hundred dollars a month for your cable and now you're paying monthly for your dvr replay tv had an option two hundred dollars and will give you use for a lifetime and this was in like 2005 and of course i thought i'm gonna use this for the rest of my life right why would I ever not need a DVR?

And I paid the $200 instead of the $5 a month. That's all it was, $5 a month. I paid $200. They went out of business like 13 months later, and they were just gone. And you couldn't even use it anyway. You can't even get your money back at that point. Oh, man. So I'm with you, Michael.

I've been burned. Lifetime subscription is not the best idea no no maybe not it's i mean it seemed like a granted time i'm like i'll play this game forever nope and then the irony is i played warcraft like you michael for years and years on end and i'd always stare at the discount for paying like three months or six months at a time right never did it paid 15 a month every single month that i played overwatch or overwatch world of warcraft yeah so lost a lot of money there only i was the person that played paid 15 a month to play overwatch this is for your loot box nice all right uh back to me here for the next one huh all right this is a fun one i i might

have shared this story once or or I might not have. I don't remember. If I did, it was a long time ago. All right, Paul, look, I think it's 2004 for you now. You're a young man in college, and you've got your OG Xbox with the behemoth controller. All right. You're about to sign up for Xbox Live, and they're going to ask you for a username and you're going to try your normal username. It's going to be unavailable and Xbox is going to give you a random name and ask you if you want to keep it.

And that username is going to be pained STD with STD and all capitals. All right? Now, I know that you're 20 years old, and you're going to think that's the funniest thing in the world, and you're going to smash accept as soon as you can, but I have some bad news for you. You're going to have to call Xbox Live Support in a couple years when you accidentally pay for it for like four months and you don't use it. You're going to call.

You're going to ask them for a refund. they're going to ask you to verify your username and um you're gonna feel like an absolute juvenile moron at that point so just pick any other username anything you want just not paying to std it's not a good idea i think that's the greatest idea paul oh can you believe microsoft like with their procedurally generated names yeah like you get that where it's like right oh josh one two three is unavailable would you try josh five eight nine seven like we're used to seeing that they legitimately shot back with why don't you try pained std let's try it yeah honestly you gotta go man it's fate paul that was my that was my xbox live name for like six years i want to math gurus out there tell me what the odds are that with 27 right letters in the english alphabet or 26 however many there are that std would be put

together in completely random because i'm sure it's it's like you know word like adjective adverb whatever and then three letters randomly that that's how the std came like holy cow my nick my name that it that it recommended for me i actually used for a while it was sure fuzzball like nine four five like a very confident ball of lint like that's a very sure fuzzball right there i was like that's adorable but not pained std no it's better than a timid fuzzball yeah that's true did you did you did you feel the need because i would be this guy to explain to the support person who does not care at microsoft listen i didn't i didn't pick this this was you guys that did this when you're trying to change the name i didn't i just i'm sure i turned beet red. And I probably had, like, one of those, like, really sorrowful, reluctant tones. You know, okay, yes, sir.

And what was your username? PainDustTD? You know, like, yeah, I do know the username. Yeah, I was kind of curious if you guys ever had any goofy or funny usernames along the way. So Michael had SureFuzzball. What about you josh i was always trying to have like the edgy cool sounding names you know like the one that i thought was really awesome at the time and then now i look back and i'm like that's kind of dumb was my username was mourn demon like a demon like of mourning you know that it feed on

people's mourning like when and i was like a morn demon yeah and then i got older and i was like this is dumb what kind of name is this oh man back in the days of aol instant messenger which by the way shout out to all our listeners who are like 35 and older yes i i remember making new usernames like once every few months because you would just like want a new one that you thought was cool. And I don't know why. I was a freshman in high school. I thought it was really cool to name my AOL account Ozzy Everclear because I was listening to a lot of Ozzy Osbourne and Everclear at the time and thought, why don't we put these two things together and make that my username?

So I rolled with that for a while. It would be a really weird band aussie everclear like if aussie was doing everclear's music how would that work it would be very interesting everyone on the podcast that's under the age of 35 is like who's everclear yeah it's an aussie yeah oh goodness everclear my wife hated everclear i don't like everclear i'm with. I'm with your wife on this one. I hate every song by them. I hate every single song by those guys. Oh, I still ride for Everything to Everyone. That wasn't a bad song.

Alright, Josh, coming back around to you. Super quick, here we go. Josh, you'll see an ad for this thing called the Wii U. You'll think it's great. The ad will make it sound like it's great. It's not make it sound like it's great. It's not. Don't.

Just don't buy it. Yes, I know your wife thinks she wants it to, but just trust me. Save your money. Go spend it on Blackjack or something useful. The Wii U sucked, dude. But it didn't need to. It didn't need to suck.

It just didn't have good games. It did suck. But it didn't have to. I mean, it didn't have to. didn't need to suck it just didn't have good games it did suck but it didn't have to i mean it didn't have good games we bowling was the only game that was even remotely because it's funny because i told my wife that i was going to slander the wii u tonight and then she was like no and i was like what games did we play on that and then she was like bowling and i'm like what else and she was like uh bowling and i'm like yeah exactly hey you played breath of the wild but that was at the very end of its lifespan yeah right so i feel like two games do not a console make and it even like sucked on the way you like the breath of the wild is way

better on the switch yeah so it's like yeah not even a positive story i don't think i ever played a wii u once in my life. You're not missing out. Yeah, never. You're not missing out. So here's the thing. Like, we had a Wii U as well. And it had the capability of doing some cool stuff. They just didn't capitalize on it. Like, I remember there was a minigame kind of like Mario Party.

But because one person could hold the screen, they could see something different than everybody else looking at the TV. And so they started incorporating some asymmetrical multiplayer games. I remember in one of them, you would run around as a ghost, and everybody else could look at the screen with flashlights. And you could see in the dark as the ghost and try to touch people, and then you would take them out. And they would have to turn with their flashlights and so they they they had some neat ideas like that but there was like not a single pokemon game came out on the wii u the the breath of the wild came out really late you were kind of stuck playing old remasters like we bought wind waker hd on the wii u and that's probably the game we played the most.

And I had already played it on the Wii. So like the Wii U was just no one really asked for the console. They didn't really give you anything good and it just died. Yeah. Bummer. So you're saying my feet. I give good advice. Paul is what you're saying.

Yeah. Yeah. Probably good advice. Just wait a few years. Buy something else. All right, Michael, swinging back your way how many we got time for because i got two more i'll do a quick one real fast see if it comes back to me um sure i just want to tell myself listen uh past michael i don't know when in the past i'm talking to maybe a long time ago uh you need to play silent hill and resident

evil series as they come out because now that you're 40 years old and you have played neither of them really at all and they're unplayable you're missing out bro go go play those games as they come out period because they're unplayable now yeah and as of like today the Silent Hill 2 remake news broke. Because we're recording this earlier than the day it releases. So maybe you'll get a chance. You'll get to play the remake, Michael. Yeah, I hope.

Cross my fingers. Guess who has two thumbs and never played a Silent Hill game in his life? Michael? This guy. I've never played Silent Hill. You have three thumbs also, Paul. So you can't trick us. I'm so played Silent Hill. You have three thumbs also, Paul, so you can't trick us. I'm so confused right now.

I definitely have two thumbs. Don't need to start that rumor. Yeah, I've never played a Silent Hill game ever. They're great. They're really, really good, man. Silent Hill, when they came out, were phenomenal. I don't know that they hold up today, but I'm actually pretty excited for the remake too.

And because if they do it right, Silent Hill is one of the scarier, like creepier games. So I'm excited. But yeah, you missed out. Yeah. Cause if you, I saw screenshots when I was,

when I was coming up with this, I pulled up with some screenshots and I'm like, that would be almost impossible to play. The graphics sort of just, and then I heard that the voice acting is like legitimately terrible in the first two games now if you go back it's like i'll just i don't know that's my apparently that's my impression of bad voice acting what moving on all right what do you got paul coming back to me all right hi paul it's it's paul it's me again um me again. Oh, I see you've got your Nintendo 64,

your very first console. Congratulations. I know mom and dad didn't want you to own a gaming system. They thought you'd be addicted. And I know that you had to wait all the way until freshman or actually the summer before freshman year of high school. I know that mom and dad are about to take you on that really long road trip to yellowstone and you're gonna be in the car like driving 15 hours a day for the next seven days and um mom and dad just bought that travel size tv and the power inverter and you're gonna be able to play 64 on your road trip all right you've never been more excited in your life i know you hate road trips this is to make it bearable.

You don't have any games, though, is the problem. And I know that mom is going to tell you, you get to rent two games from Gamers, which is a mom and pop store that's no longer around. They're going to let you pick out two games to play. And your first pick is spot on. You're going to pick Super Smash Brothers. It's a classic.

Even just playing by yourself, you're going to play it a ton. It's an absolute blast. But you need to ignore your second pick because, brother, Superman 64 is going to be so horrifically bad. You're going to play it for about half an hour, and you're going to beat yourself up over not having another game to play. Oh, my goodness. What a another game to play. Oh my goodness. What a terrible game to just randomly choose. What a bad pick, right? Oh my goodness.

It's like one of the all-time worst games. Yes. Before we even knew that comic book or movie games don't do well with games. What am I saying? You know how it is. Because there was a lot of bad comic book and movie games that came out around that time. That was one of the first ones that was like, wait, this is no good. Have you watched footage of Superman 64 lately?

No, not in a while. I dialed it up today. It's real bad. Like half the game is just you flying seemingly four miles an hour in the sky as Superman. And the game runs so badly that they covered everything in fog. So it's like you're flying, but you can't see anything. And you just fly through rings and the frame rate keeps dropping really low. It's so bad. I didn't even know this until today. There are streamers who will still play Superman 64 today because they don't believe it's as bad

as they've heard. And just look it up on youtube you'll find they're all like four hours long and i watched a couple where i just skipped to the end and they are so glad to be done with the game when they beat it and it it looks horrific it plays horrific there's not a single good thing you can say about superman 64 just 100 pain painful experience altogether yep so anyway that that's my piece of advice uh coming back to you josh this will have to be kind of quick i was gonna say this is probably the last one so okay hey slightly older josh this is slightly older josh i know i'm just a few months ahead of you from the future look i'm here with a dire warning you're going to

meet a guy you'll hit it off you'll become friends point, this guy's going to talk to you about a game and how awesome it is. He's going to tell you how amazing this game is, but don't believe him. That game's terrible. It's like getting surgery without anesthesia. It's like having a tooth pulled out with pliers. It's like, well, it's just terrible, really. Somehow he'll convince you to play it. I'm here to tell you, don't pick anything else fortnight et superman 64 anything literally anything will be better than this game what's his name in the game his name is michael butler and he's going to suggest something called elite dangerous i hate you so much not elite but it is dangerous to your happiness. Don't say I didn't warn you. Double drive-bys on Elite Dangerous. Both the intro and with Josh.

Oh, man. I had to, Michael. I had to. I was really into your story for a minute. I was like, where's it going with this? What's happening? I kept wondering when the realization was going to set in. I was on that train and then I just jumped off.

Now, I do love trolling Michael on this. It's a long-running joke. But at the same time, when you claim a game is the worst game that you have ever played, you kind of say, hey, if I can advise myself, don't play that game. Yeah, especially when it's in my top five, I think. You do have some fans that are on your side, Michael, in your defense, because we do pick on you so much. We actually do have some listeners that have been like, hey Michael, in your defense. You do. Because we do pick on you so much. We actually do have some listeners that have been like,

hey, I'm with Michael. Elite Dangerous is great. Boom. Those are the right ones. They're correct. Poor Elite Dangerous. Sorry. Emotional damage.

I feel better now. How dare you. Going on to you, Michael. Last one. All right. Talking to Michael circa April 16th, 2011. Okay, listen, I want to tell you three things real fast about movies and TV. And you need to sit down for this, okay? Next year, on October 30th, Disney's going to buy Star Wars. And you're going to think this is the best thing that's ever happened because you're going to get a lot of Star Wars but it's all going to be terrible except for Rogue One. Period. And maybe some of the TV shows but the

movies are basically bad fan fiction. They're bad. And listen, Star Trek is going to be reinvigorated by the re-merger of Viacom and CBS. So Paramount and CBS are getting back together. But listen, here's what's going to happen. You're going to have to sit through Discovery and Picard being so lackluster and outright almost awful.

But the good news is, in like seven years, a show called Strange New Worlds is coming. And you're really going to like that one. And lastly, tomorrow, I don't want you to watch HBO's new TV show called Game of Thrones. And I just don't want you to know why. Just don't start watching it. Period. all of your favorite franchises are going to crap watch game of thrones just stop after season seven that's way better advice yeah six and a half maybe yeah all of the best man star trek and star wars were just done terribly and game of thrones was too tomorrow tomorrow just don't watch it tomorrow past michael circa april 16th 2011 oh is there is there anything worse than being super excited

about like your favorite movie franchise and then it just sucks yeah yeah no star wars episode 9 i was just like shaking my head the whole time like How could it be this bad? It's awful. When it comes to movies, it doesn't take much, man. So I'm always like, eh, that was fun. Yeah. No. No, it was seven. It was seven that I was okay with. A lot of people complained about seven because they were like, oh, it's too much like A New Hope.

And I'm like, they're trying to bring back the old fans because they didn't like the prequels. And it gets back on track. But yeah, by the end, I was like, this is a train wreck it's like really bad like and that's that sounds like to say that it's like bad fan fiction is actually an insult to fan fiction because there's actually some good fan fiction out there yeah i hear you michael that's that's some good advice yeah all right paul bring us home buddy all right hey past paul uh i got got one last piece of advice for you it's uh the summer of 1999 where you're at and i just want to tell you stop and smell the roses all right your your single favorite game memory is going to come later with world of warcraft

but right now right before going into high school you don't have a care in the world. You finally got your Nintendo 64. Your family has a computer. This is probably going to be your peak game time in your lifetime. It may not be as big of a scale as games to come, like all the MMOs, but you've got your best friends. You're playing some incredible games, split screen or 1v1 online. You're playing the likes of perfect dark golden eye smash brothers tony hawk's pro skater age of empires 2 command of conk command and conquer starcraft

mario party and descent on the whole i don't think it's ever going to get better for you gaming wise oh oh man now is that is that because of the times, or is that just because that was the age of being a young teenager when all those games were out? It's 100%. It's the time in your life, you know what I mean, that those games tie to. I have the same ones. They're old, much older than the Nintendo 64,

but same thing. Same thing. We're like, wait, we can make pixels move on a screen? This is the greatest thing ever. This paddle has a wheel that I turn and this bar moves up and down. It bats this square back and forth.

I think everybody has that year or that moment or that time. I think that's pretty normal. I think mine's this year because I've played a lot of games this year. We have made Michael play more games than he has ever played in his life. I'm like, this year's great. We've got some great games.

I like this. Yeah. The best game is Weird West. This has not been a great year for gaming. I played Cyberpunk finally. That was awesome. We're almost there. There you go.

We're almost there. We've got some good games coming up. Oh, man. All right. punk finally that was almost there there you go almost there we got some good games coming up oh man all right well i think we are basically out of time here for this episode any anything to add anything you guys want to say at this point uh other than we've made some bad decisions in the past past past josh by bitcoin by bitcoin yeah also um past michael get good oh yeah start start your aim training michael yeah there you go learn to use a controller for fps or just learn how to play fps and learn how to play first person shooter games in general oh very nice all right well to all our listeners out there thank you so much for listening to this episode please make sure to check out multiplayer squad.com if you want to help support the show on patreon and also we would

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