Video Gamers Podcast - [Bonus Round] Top 100 Games Ranked - Gaming Podcast

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

The Video Gamers Podcast is back and gaming hosts Paul, Josh and Ryan are breaking down our video game top 100 lists. We unveil our all new leaderboard rankings and a new system so you can see every ranking of every video game we’ve ever covered on the show! We dive into what games rose the most, which hosts agreed on games the most and more. It’s an awesome, gaming packed episode you can’t miss!  Thanks to our LEGENDARY Supporters: Disratory, Ole Jake and JigglePuff Connect with the show: Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/videogamerspod Join our Gaming Discord: https://discord.gg/Dsx2rgEEbz Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/videogamerspod/  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/VideoGamersPod  Subscribe to us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU12YOMnAQwqFZEdfXv9c3Q   Visit us on the web: https://videogamerspod.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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up to support us through Patreon starting at five bucks a month and you'll get a shout out, bonus episodes twice a month, lots of other goodies. Just go to MultiplayerSquad.com. I am your host, Paul. and today he is joining me, as always, the man who usually has spectacular taste, but sometimes goes a little off kilter when it comes to games like Stardew Valley. It's Josh. You got it. You know, you can't be predictable if that's one thing that, you know, is helpful in this biz, as they say. The biz? Yeah, the biz. Short for business.

Yeah. Well, Paul, come on. Don't give away the secrets, Paul. That's right. You gotta pay for Patreon support to get that kind of stuff. If you'd like the full word. Yeah. And then joining Josh and me,

you know, his leaderboard's a little shorter than Josh's and mine, but that's okay. I'm told it's more about how you use the leaderboard. It's Ryan. Ah, yes! Oh my gosh. Take that, Ryan! If you put them next to each other, you know, Ryan's...

It's about half as long, I would say. Yeah. Ryan doesn't know what to say. Oh, man. I would just would just say like the overall kind of my scores a nice big radius if you will of scores sure so a radius of scores

yeah it's a big radius of scores I like it very very true all right well before we start talking about our leaderboard, which is kind of like our breaking down of our top 100 plus games we've covered on the show, Josh, I think you're going to read a review someone left us. I do. Hey, reviews are the lifeblood of this podcast. If you have been a listener for a little while and you haven't left us a review, we would really appreciate you just taking a

few seconds to do that. On Spotify, you just tap it five stars. On Apple, you can leave a written review and rate us five stars there. It just really helps people that are looking for a good gaming podcast to find one. And if you write us a review, there is a good chance we're going to read it on the show, like this one that comes in from Paul427. and it's titled why is ryan's leaderboard so small yeah why do i need a microscope yeah so all right for real this one it comes in from drive it boy and it's titled have you heard? If not, well, you should have because it's awesome. And it says, this is the best gaming podcast.

The audio is great. The humor is great. Everything is great. By the way, here's a bonus round idea from the mind of a child. The idea is that you draft characters to be put into different environments. Mario and Cyberpunk's world world as a random example the winner is the most drafted survivors you know we're due for a kind of off the wall bonus round too so we will yeah no promises but i like the idea and hey if you have ideas for the show

we have a discord server where you can actually make suggestions for topics and bonus rounds and games you'd like to see us cover and stuff like that we actually do take those to heart we've had a lot of listeners that have suggested things that we really like and we run with so come on over to our discord server the link is in the episode description they're gonna have to uh combat with uh morgal though that's like our designated he's he's he's our lead uh lead writer yeah he's our ideas man also also i i wish everybody could have seen paul's eyebrows go up when uh the review said we had great audio yeah paul's an audio man he's like oh yeah yes yes yeah i was just bracing for something about how we're so family friendly because anytime i make a pg joke

in the intro it's always a review about how clean the show is so at least at least this time it did say you know we were not accused of having you know highfalutin comedy it's you know it's a little lowbrow at times yeah i was gonna say we've never been accused of being highbrow that's for sure no no not at all. All right. So we are talking about a leaderboard review. Now, I guess we should probably clarify for people who don't know. We do have our leaderboard. It's on our website. You can go to videogamerspod.com and we have on there our top 10 games of all time, which are individually ranked. And then we also have our deep dive leaderboard. And anytime we cover a game, we have always

rated it against every other game we've done a deep dive on. That way people, if they ever have questions like, what games do you guys recommend? We always say, hey, what kind of games do you like? I'll throw out some ideas and go take a look at the leaderboard. And that's kind of where you can look and see what we like and what we recommend. It's also an easy way for our listeners to figure out what kind of gamer is Josh and Ryan and Paul and who am I most aligned with? So maybe I'll take their opinions a little more to heart than someone else. So the problem though, is that over time, as our leaderboard has gotten longer and longer, and we're not like assigning scores or ratings, it's just a list in order of what we like.

It's kind of become weird, especially because Ryan has a different number of games that he's covered. There are some games Josh covered that I didn't, games that I covered that you guys didn't. So we just decided to completely revamp the leaderboard. And honestly, this is something we've talked about for a really long time.

What held us back is quite honestly, just simply the fact that none of us are website programmers. And I did not know how to do sortable tables well. And it turns out if you just spend $45, you can buy a really nice plugin and it'll do it all for you. So here we are. We're going to totally revamp the leaderboard. This is a long time coming. What a time to be alive. Yeah.

The leaderboard has always been a lot of coming. What a time to be alive. Yeah, this is the leaderboard has always been a lot of fun because it is nonsensical. We, you know, putting various games from different genres up against each other has always been, you know, just a little bit of absurdity, you know, mixing a game like Elden Ring and then comparing it to Stardew Valley and saying, okay, where do these games rank was the whole point of the leaderboard. But like Paul said, the problem is, is that over time, it has become so convoluted that it really just doesn't serve a purpose for the listeners, right? You can look at the top 10 games and say, oh, okay, well, cool. I haven't played this one, so maybe I should. But we feel like it could be more valuable. So instead of being this like absurd thing where

we rank games, but it just has not really, it stopped working, I guess, in that regard. So now what we have done is switch the way that we do this to where we think this actually would be like a valuable tool for people to go and look at and say, Hey, as a whole, I wish I knew how the podcast felt about a game overall, but I still would like to know, like, I relate to Paul's gaming more than Ryan's gaming. So can I still see like Paul's list at the same time? And so that's what we've done. And Paul, kudos to Paul, because he's the one that did all of the work on this one, as far as getting this all set up and making it look nice and something that would be actually user-friendly to people as well. So yeah, kudos, Paul.

But we're excited to kind of like unveil this and talk about some of these games and maybe some of the changes and stuff too. So we have converted now to a point system, kind of like you see on a lot of other websites. We went through, we all decided to rate all the games that we have played on our deep dive. It's one to 10,000 is the scale, right? Yes, because that would really make it easy for our listeners. It is on a scale from zero to 10.0. So we are going to the 10th decimal place. And it was very funny as we all went in and added these scores.

I went in and did it first because I set up the Google drive that the Google sheet that it all gets pulled from. I put in all my scores. Josh added a few of his Ryan added a few of his, and then eventually we got all the scores in here and I got to start here. Ryan, you do not believe in the 10.0 rating you did not rate a single game 10.0 tens baby no 10 why is that because what okay so like uh to start here

obviously one of the greatest games ever made masterpiece red dead redemption 2 yeah what a perfect game well no it's not perfect it's not nothing's perfect the seven out of ten gameplay ryan it's oh gosh well it's got fishing so we know that takes it up through the roof that's true for paul but you can't what i mean you can't have as a 10 because what if you play something better then that's a 10 as well no but if it's better they're not the same they can't be the same score if it's if it's a better game. So if the next God of War comes out or the next Red Dead comes out and they're better, then there'd be a 9.9. And so then we can go up.

Once I hit 10, then I'm going to have to figure that out. But as of right now, no 10s, baby. I got to say, I respect it, Ryan. I really do. I respect Ryan because I thought you were joking initially where he was like, you guys gave out tens. And Paul and I were both like, yeah, dude, these games are masterpieces. And then Ryan's like, there's no tens. And I thought you were joking until I actually looked at your leaderboard. And I was like, dang, he's serious, man. That was great. The next day you guys came over and we're like, oh, you weren't kidding, Ryan,

no tens. So your idea on this is that this is almost like a pyramid where there's no such thing as perfection. Yeah. And if a game comes out that is better than Red Dead, you want to be able to give that game that 9.9 since that doesn't exist for you at this point. Exactly, yeah. I mean, think about it.

What games in the last 20, 30 years have been better than Red Dead or God of War? You know, there's nothing. So it's going to be, I mean, what are we going to have to wait another 10, 15, 20 years before something beats a 9.8? Like that's just where I'm thinking is, is I think I have time to where a game's not going to be better than that. I mean, I hope I'm wrong. I hope there is a game because that would be awesome. But I just, I wanted to give myself that wiggle room to where if there was something then and hopefully we're still doing

this in 10 years when that happens. Now, now, when you're talking about wiggle room, funny, funny, you bring that up. Josh, do you have our new leaderboard? I do. Yeah. Tell tell the listeners what Ryan rated Pacific Drive. Oh, Pacific Drive. All right, let me hang on. First of all, you can sort by our rankings individually. So I can say like, oh, what does Ryan have at the bottom of his list? Yeah. And so if I scroll way down to the bottom of Ryan's list here, where I have a feeling he put Pacific Drive. Oh, look, there it is. Just under Halo Reach, which he rated a 5.5, which is fair. And here it is. Oh, Pacific Drive, a 0.1.

That's too high. If I could give it a zero, I would. So you don't believe in the 10, but you do believe in a 0.1 with no wiggle room for anything worse than Pacific Drive. Listen, if I could give it a zero, I would, but I have principles. So I'm just going to give it the 0.1. So it's on the score. But yeah, man, that's how we do it. I also absolutely love that Ryan's third lowest rated game is a 5.5.

And then after that, we have two games that are 0.1. Too funny. Battlefield 2042 is the other. That deserves to be there. Let's be honest. I will say that's 0.1 yes oh too funny battlefield 2042 is the other that deserves to be there let's be honest i will say that's fair when you put this up i was doing it on my phone in bed it was a long day and i was like half asleep trying to go through it and on the little screen a bunch of them because they had dashes before i had put it in and then later checked it and i didn't remove the dashes so a bunch of mine were like minus eight, minus nine. I was like, why are these so low ranked? Oh, I have a negative. Whoops. That's funny. Didn't take

out the placeholder dashes. Nope. All right. So let's start by just talking a little bit about the top of the list. And I think this is kind of fun. We'll talk a little bit about our consensus average scores. What's at the top? What are some things in the middle, what are some things at the bottom. And then we can kind of just open things up where maybe we'll ask each other questions like, why is this rated so much lower than that? Or why did you not like God of War Ragnarok as much as God of War or whatever it might be? And then at the end, because I'm just the world's biggest math nerd, I did run a whole bunch of statistics. I was kind of curious, like, between the three of us, which combo of two are, like, the closest gamers? Like, who have the most similar taste? Who's kind of, like, the outlier? What games did we have the

biggest disparity? What games did we all rate across the board almost the same? So, I'll have some fun stats to share at the end of the episode that I think will be a lot of fun. Out of curiosity, who do you guys think would be the two gamers most aligned? Me and you. You and me, Ryan? I would say you two. Yeah. Paul, you and I agree.

When we agree, we really agree. But I think we have a much bigger gap in the style of game that we like. Whereas I think you and Ryan definitely align more on your gaming takes and choices. Interesting. Except Zelda. Except Zelda. Yeah. I thought the same thing because for those who don't know, Ryan is my wife's cousin. And my wife and I started dating when we were 16. At the time, Ryan, I think you were 12. So Ryan and I have basically grown up playing games together. And so we tend to know what each other like. I will say to just give a little bit of a teaser of some of these stats. I looked at how many games Josh, you and I have rated exactly the same and it's 17 games, which is 15 15 of our leaderboard is exactly the same decimal okay

that's pretty 9.28.5 exactly ryan and i do not have a single game that's exactly the same score all right so you know there might be some surprises with all this that are going to be fun to talk about all right so sorting our leaderboard by consensus, we do have a clear top two that I don't think are a surprise. At the very top, we have two games tied with a consensus 9.9 rating. We have Red Dead Redemption 2 and we have God of War 2018.

Both of those games, Josh and I scored a perfect 10.0. Ryan scored it a 9.8. So guys, who knew Josh likes Red Dead 2 more than Ryan? I would have never guessed. Really, Ryan? What's up with that? Must have been that gameplay. Yeah. So this should be said, I mean, at least for me, and I'm assuming Paul did this too, to get a 10, a game has to be what I would consider an absolute masterpiece. This is a game that regardless of your gaming takes, your gaming preferences, this is a work of art or so mind-blowingly good that I feel like almost anybody that enjoys gaming would enjoy this game at that point.

Yeah. Or a game just resonates so much with me that I think it is perfect for my gaming takes as well. You know, as far as that goes, I mean, you know, we'll talk about it. I have rocket league rated pretty darn high. Um, I did not give it a 10 because I don't think it's a 10 game for a lot of people, But we only have, what, five 10s each, Paul? Yes, you and I each have five 10s. Yeah, we each have five 10s. I mean, out of 100 games, that is a very low percent of games to say, this is truly a masterpiece of a video game. Ryan's real close on a couple, but you know, no tens from Ryan there either.

But yeah, I mean, that's not to say these are perfect games because I can definitely find flaws in anything. You know, I'll use God of War as an example, because that is one of my favorite games of all time. The enemy variety kind of sucks. You know, that's a, a, a good criticism against that game is it says, Hey, it starts to reuse a lot of the animations. The enemy variety is not that great. Everything else about this game is it says, Hey, it starts to reuse a lot of the animations. The enemy variety is not that great.

Everything else about this game is incredible. Why couldn't you just throw some more variety in there? And then it would be perfect. Right? So, so they do that. They, they remake the game and they do that for you.

Then what do you score it? A 10 because it's still an absolute masterpiece. So it's the same score as the other game. Yeah. Ryan wants like the, he wants like the echelon like the this is the the king of all games sitting at the top of the list i'm just waiting for it one day eventually ryan's scores are going to be nine point nine nine seven eight and then that way he's

got that leeway now we should have said this from the outset. We are not saying that as the consensus 9.9, that Red Dead 2 and God of War are the two best games ever made. We don't have on our leaderboard games that we have not done a deep dive of. So we haven't done, for example, Half-Life 2 or like Super Mario Brothers 3 or anything like that. So it's just looking at games that we did deep dives for, but those are not a surprise, you know, uh, looking at our top tens of all time,

Ryan has red dead two as his favorite game of all time. It's my number two of all time, right below mass effect to not surprised to see it. Similarly, God of war, Josh has as his number two of all time, Ryan, you have it number four.

So I don't think we're surprised to see those at the top. Uh, Josh, why don't you just go surprised to see those at the top uh josh why don't you just go ahead and tell us what your five perfect ratings are yeah and yeah and then ryan you and i can jump in if we're surprised by any of these i mean again this goes to remind you like i am somewhat critical of red dead redemptions to gameplay right and i'm talking like mechanics because we have had this argument back ryan's already shaking his head. I should clarify. There's two terms of thought. Gun play and game play. Yes. And that's the thing. The mechanics of the game, the gun play in the game, I find to be rather lacking. If you're talking about the game play overall, like the horseback riding and

interacting with characters and just that interaction with the world, it's second to none in that regard. But again, there's always a flaw to be found in a video game. But these are my absolute cream of the crop, must play games. And that is Red Dead Redemption 2, God of War 2018, Cyberpunk 2077, Overwatch of old.

I have to clarify that sadly because I despise Overwatch 2 in its current iteration. Is that Goats era Overwatch? Oh man, that's actually when it started to fall off, man. Yeah. Pre-Goats. Pre-Goats Overwatch was just peak. So I hate that I have to put that disclaimer on there, but I do. And then Elden Ring. I mean, what a variety of games, number one. But yeah, I mean, to me, those are absolute cream of the crop video games. Yeah. My top five have three of the same. So Red Dead 2, God of War, and Cyberpunk are in there. My other tens are Disco Elysium. What a fantastic game. Josh has a 9.6. We both absolutely love it. And then my other

10 is Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom. I know both of you are maybe not surprised that I would rate it that, but something that would not be in the conversation for you as a 10.0. Now, just to reiterate to people too, so that it doesn't get lost in us rambling some, but these are only games that we have covered for the podcast. So I'm curious, Paul, where would you put Breath of the Wild? Would that be a 10 as well? Or do you feel like Tears of the Kingdom improved the formula to make it a perfect 10? 100% improved upon it. It plays better in a million ways breath of the wild i would probably put either a 9.5 or a 9.6 okay it would be crazy high but not as high as tears okay i was curious that ultra hand is just so cool so cool there's just nothing like it yeah all right and then let's take a look at the very bottom of our consensus we have coming in dead last battlefield 2042 i rated it a 2.0 josh a 1.5

ryan a 0.1 and then uh apologies to previous host michael the butler his favorite game elite dangerous we have coming in at a consensus 1.5 thanks to a 2.0 from me 1.0 from josh ryan has not played so uh he did not rate that that's the bullet on that one yeah and then rounding out the bottom we also have hood outlaws and legends at 2.8 most of our listeners probably don't even know what that was i think people would be shocked to see us have escape from tarkov here at a 3.0. Ryan, did you ever play Escape from Tarkov? Because I know you did not for the show. I think I checked it out a little bit, but not enough to give it a rating.

But I was actually, speaking of surprise, I was surprised that it was this low when I pulled up the leaderboard to look over everything. Yeah, why do we have that one solo, Josh? It's just, it's not fun, man. And I, listen, we have, we have a lot of listeners that consider Escape from Tarkov like one of their favorite games ever.

And I understand it. I'm happy for you. I'm glad that you found something that resonates with you. Our personal gaming takes are, we don't generally get into these super sweaty, ultra competitive, kind of frustrating games. And I just find Tarkov to be frustration. The idea of getting all this gear

and wandering out into the world and then getting killed by a guy that was hiding in a corner just infuriates me. If you look at a similar game called Valorant, which again, we know a lot of people absolutely love. If you love Valorant, you really love Valorant. And I get that people like that gameplay loop. But at the same time, we played Valorant for a while and we just started going, dude, I don't like the sweatiness of this game. Rounding a corner and getting headshot within a tenth of a second, and then just sitting there and having to watch the rest of my team play out this match.

People are mad at you. If you make one mistake, that's not that great of a community like that. Like we don't like frustration in video games. Um, and I can hear it now. There's going to be people, but Josh, you like Elden ring. And isn't that really hard and frustrating? And it's like, not for me, you know, like, I like a challenge. I don't like frustration. That's kind of how I was with Destiny, with Trials of Osiris. You know, you can

go in and it's like where the cream of the crop goes to play PvP on there. And I got a buddy that, like, I didn't mind it. And it gets sweaty, but I thought it was fun. And if guys were better, they were just better. But my friend just hated playing when we would lose. So he would just never play it. So he wasn't a big fan.

He's like, no, I don't want to play. I was like, come on, let's play some Trials. He's like, we just get walked over every time. I'm like, so? You know, it's fun. But yeah, it sucks when games get so salty like that, that it's just not enjoyable, you know? Yeah.

Yeah. And that gives some insight into how we're rating games like from a technical perspective valorant runs amazingly well it accomplishes exactly what it's trying to do in that sense it would be like a 9.0 i just hate it i don't like the genre i don't like the sweatiness i don't like where you can't even look around the corner and you're already dead and so you and i josh rated it a 4.0 that's just our personal gaming take we are not hardcore journalists we are not rating this like you would expect from actual critics we're just normal dudes who are dads that like gaming and for better or worse this is how we feel about it yep

all right well let's go ahead and take a short break and then we'll come back. Behold, my name is Maximus Intertanius, and I come to you with big stars in big dramas like Gladiator 2, Dexter, Original Sin, and 1923. Stream Paramount Plus for $6.99 a month. All right, guys. So we kind of covered our consensus top and bottom. As you kind of look at our leaderboard, is there anything that stands out? Is there like something that you're surprised by one of the other person's rating?

Or maybe you think it's too high or too low on our leaderboard? Anything that kind of stands out to you guys? I got one. Oh, I got one. Oh, I got one right now. Why the heck? It's all the way down at a 6.6 for consensus. Josh,

how are you going to give no rest for the wicked and 8.2? Dude, it's one of our biggest disparities. Yeah, I, and I'll, I actually will defend this and I will give some updates on this game too, because I've been following the development and the patches since it's an early access game.

I like action forward combat. I like role playing games. I like progression. And I get that you guys really didn't get into that gameplay loop for No Rest for the Wicked. What were some of our complaints? No button mapping. The fact that your stats, you're locked in, you can't try out other

weapons. Dude, if you actually look at the patches, they have solved every complaint that we have had about this game. I mean, unless you just don't like the gameplay itself, but I actually like that because it's an RPG. I mean, it's an action RPG. That's one of our favorite genres. But I mean, it's really funny because all of's one of our favorite genres. But I mean, it's really funny because all of the complaints that we levied against that game, and you two were a little bit more vocal and they tended to irritate you guys a little bit more than me, the developers have said, you know what? You're absolutely right. Now, we're not solely responsible for this by any means, but I mean, I think we can relate to gamers, you know, as a whole,

who also voiced the same concerns. And they said, you're absolutely right. You should be able to use various weapons. And you know what? Yeah, you should be able to rebind your weapons. So you don't just roll off of a cliff and gathering material should be a lot easier if we're going to do this kind of thing. And they've been, they've already fixed most of what we complained about on this game. So for me, I like the art style. I like the combat. I like the progression elements. I like the world that it's in.

So I did not hate this game nearly as much as you guys did. Whatever. I'm going to come across this ledge so I can talk to you a little bit. That's why I don't like early access games. Like put out the beta for free fix the issues there you'll still get the same feedback but no they release these early access they charge you 30 bucks 40 bucks or whatever and then and then they got your money and it's a game you didn't like you know so what's funny though is you say it's a 6.6 which you think is too high because of my

rating because my 8.2 is pulling that rating up. Uh, Paul has it at a 5.5 and you have it as a 6.1 Ryan. Yeah. So you think it should be lower? I just think your rating should be lower. Yeah. Yeah.

I think it's a solid game that is only gotten better since we played it. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure they fixed some of those things, i think it's i don't know i guess it's just one of those things too where it's just not what we like you know yeah i believe i even said on that deep dive because i think you even asked josh like what if they fix these things and i was like unless they completely revamp the combat system i just don't think it's gonna be for me so I was so hyped too. I mean, it was one of our most anticipated of the year. Looks real similar to that new dragon age game coming out,

Paul. Oh no, don't get set them off. How dare you? How dare you, sir? Sorry. Um,

taking a look here. One that I think is a little curious and I want to hear more is fall guys. So Josh and I played that a lot together. We have not played that with you, Ryan. I think you have played that a lot, maybe with your kids. I have it rated as a 5.0, Josh 4.0. And Ryan, you've got it at 7.5. You're a much bigger fan of Fall Guys. What is it about that game that you like? Fall Guys is so fun. It's just one of those kind of like Bopple Battle. It's just dumb fun. You know, and you got those goofy little characters kind of waddling around.

You can put on like a pigeon costume. I played it a ton with some friends. We'd go over, you know, have some brewskis and play Fall Guys for like an hour, you know. Or like you said, with my kids, I'll sit and just kick it on and we'll play, you know, for a while. I thought it was a very enjoyable game how i tried to do my scale is like anything like kind of 7.5 is just a good game it's it's like kind of in that area where it's a good game you know you can not like it i won't argue with you you can love it and and i'll agree or whatever so kind of in that range is just a good fun game and that's where i tried to kind of base the rest of my ratings on.

Why do you have it a little bit lower, Josh? I just find it to be frustrating, dude. And this goes, this kind of follows the same train of thought with Tarkov and Valorant and stuff like that. I am a very competitive person. I love multiplayer competitive games. So before anybody's like, oh, you just don't like competition. It's like, no, I love competition, man. What I don't like is randomness that affects the competition. And that's honestly the biggest problem that I had with Fall Guys is it's like, I'm a pretty mechanically sound gamer. I have a lot of faith in my skills in most games. But when you throw an element like a door that won't open or a guy that bumps into me and because he bumped into me in a horde of 50 other people, it bounces me off the ledge. To me, or grabs you and pulls you back. Yeah. Or grabs me and pulls me because he wants to

just troll somebody. That stuff really is hard for me to swallow because it's like, I want to be competitive. I want to win this match. And through no fault of my own, now I'm out of the match and I just have a really hard time with that. It's honestly one reason that I have stopped playing Hearthstone, which was for a long time, one of my favorite games. But the randomness, that RNG of the outcome of my game being decided through nothing I did, it's so hard for me to stomach, man. And Fall Guys is a perfect example of that. Yeah. When you've got five doors and only one you can run through, you do introduce that element of randomness. And especially if you're grouped in in a party if that screws you up where you get eliminated and now you're stuck spectating for a long time that is kind of hard to swallow uh ultimately i think my biggest beef is that and

maybe this has changed to be fair i haven't played fall guys in like two plus years but they used to have only like eight different games for round one. And you would keep playing the same ones. And I always wanted to get to like rounds three and beyond, because those are the games you don't get to play as much. And so ultimately it was like, oh, I got to play this again. Or now I'm stuck on the bad team and I'm the only one trying. So even though I shouldn't be eliminated by randomness,

I just got put on the yellow team and now they got eliminated so it was like i loved it for the first five hours and then as soon as i started caring about trying to win then i kind of hated it that was my problem so for me it's like if i can just jump in and just laugh and have a good time and who cares who wins that's how you're gonna have the most fun with fall guys yeah yeah we did play that very early on i mean we played that game at release and within i think the first two weeks is when we really started to see the hacking in that game come into play as well which completely ruins a game like that because your goal is to make it to the end of the the level and when somebody just flies through the level

and automatically makes it, it just instantly takes away any fun at that point. Yeah. So I have a question for you guys. As you sort by your own list, is there a certain game or a certain rating where you would say it's no longer fun? So kind of like, you know,

is there any kind of like strategy in how you're tiering things out? Because I can tell you exactly where it is for me. For me, the line is 6.5. Anything above 6.5, I would say is a positive experience. You know, did I absolutely love Lost Ark, 12 Minutes, The Saints Row Reboot? No, but I still enjoyed playing it. The games that I have below that, I'm talking, you know, and I hate saying it because normally I love RPGs like this, but Pillars of Eternity 2, Deadfire just did not do it for me. The stuff below like that, Cuphead, Atomic Heart, Sea of Thieves, those are games that maybe

had some elements that were fun, but on the whole, I decided I don't like that game. So if you asked me any game that's 6.5 or below, do you like it? I'm going to say no. Do you guys have anything like that in your lists? That's interesting, Paul, because when I started looking at my list, I got to Tribes of Midgard, Humanity, Saints Row, Gotham Knights, Little Nightmares. And I kind of went, yeah, those are all games that I would be happy to never play ever again. But then it made me kind of realize that, you know what, there's a couple of games like maybe I need to make a few fine adjustments on some games because like, for instance, Torchlight 2, like it's a dated game compared to Diablo and Path of Exile and things like that, but it's not a bad game in and of itself. Do you know what I mean? So I think I agree with you that in that six, once a game hits 6.5, I just kind of go,

dude, there's better games out there. Don't waste your time. But that makes me realize that I probably need to tweak a couple games. Like Tiny Tina's Wonderlands, right? I have that at a six. You have it at a 5.5. Mechanically, that game is fine, dude. It's a Borderlands game. It doesn't suck. It just sucks in what we wanted that game to be. It was just a rehashed DLC instead of an expansion and it reused all the assets and stuff like that. So I think we were just more disappointed than it being a bad game in that case. So it's tough because there is a part of me that wants to look at a game and say, would other people enjoy this? And if I think they would enjoy it, I kind of naturally want to rate it higher. But then I have to remember that our leaderboard are our own personal preferences, right? Exactly.

And so that's tough to do though, because when I look at a game and I go, you know what? Somebody might really like Gotham Knights or Humanity, for instance. But then I go, I just didn't really like those games, man. So yes, I agree with you that once it hits 6.5, I think there is just a cliff where it's like, why? Why play these games when there's just a million other games out there that are better? I think you're way too low still on RimWorld. I'm just honored that RimWorld is above 6.5. You have it at 6.8, so at least it's a game you would say had some redeeming qualities. And that's the thing. I can appreciate a game that I know it's a good game. It's just not for me.

But then at the same time, we just got done trashing Valorant and Escape from Tarkov at Fall Guys because we find them super frustrating and then it's like no nobody could like this game this game's terrible but you know it's tough man it's a tough thing like i i remember when we first started doing this leaderboard i looked and of course like paul does because he's the master of planning and he's super organized and everything and he's got his he's got his list done you know and i'm like okay so then i was, I'm not going to look at Paul's list because I don't want to get influenced by how he ranks. But then I started just throwing games.

It's like throwing darts at first, man. And I remember mentioning like, I don't know what a 7.6 game is. How am I supposed to know what these ratings are, guys? And then I remember complaining about this because I'm like, what the heck is the difference between an 8.2 game and a 7.6 game i don't know yeah when we when we i remember when i first joined the pod like paul start was hitting me up for like weeks he's like ryan we need your leaderboard he's like rank your games whenever you get a chance to figure out the ones you played in right and i'm like how do i do this like get them all in orders and then i'm like wait have this one here, now I need to swap this one, and then same

with doing these scores, kind of, where do you set these up? And, like, the 6.5, I think, is a really good number, because, like, below that, you know, I think anything lower than that in the 6s is just not for me, and maybe some people would like it and then i think anything below six i would just say you know steer clear you don't want to play that game but like because i have um i have like humanity and no rest for the wicked death loop all those like i just yeah they're just not not my type of game or games that i would like to play but um yeah it was tough to do all this all these rankings took me a while even i remember we even had people in the Discord who were like,

Ryan, get your leaderboard up. Yeah. We want to see. I was getting called out. Since you did bring up Deathloop, do you guys think as a whole people would be surprised how low we are on it? It's a consensus 6.5.

So for us, it's kind of right on the edge. I gave it a 6.4. I am very low on Deathloop. Ryan is even lower, 5.9. Josh, you've got it at a 7.2. Famously, it won a lot of Game of the Year awards. A lot of people thought it was going to win at the Game Awards, and it was It Takes Two instead, right?

Wasn't it? I think that was the year. Yeah. Are we too low on Deathloop as a whole? I don't think so. I don't think so i don't think like like honestly i'm a little bit higher than you guys and we just kind of talked about that 6.5 drop off i think death loop is worth playing like i you know again it's not i'm not shouting it to the world or anything but i mean yes it is on that edge there's some things that it did very well but there's just there just wasn't enough there

you know the gunplay wasn't super tight the story was kind of eh the it just kind of got boring after a while man that's exactly what i was gonna say i i remember playing this and then after so many hours i just remember sitting there thinking, why am I still playing this? Like I was just playing it to play it, like going through the motions. I had no investment, no care. I was just bored just playing a game just to play it because I paid 50 bucks or whatever. Deathloop is arcane, right?

Wasn't that Arcane Studios that made Dishonored, which that was the thing, right? Is like when you make Dishonored, which is a phenomenal video game and you have that hype behind the, hey, your choices are going to matter. You can approach things a dozen different ways. You get these cool abilities that really make you feel like you can play the game the way that you want to. And then Deathloop came out. It really kind of faltered in that regard.

Again, mechanically speaking, the game is fine. It runs well. It plays well, but it just got old real fast, man. Totally agree. All right. Well, let's go ahead and take our last break and then we'll come back and start to wrap things up. All right. We are back. Anything else you guys noticed? Anything else you want to talk about? Or do you want me to start hitting you with some stats? I just want to ask you guys, because I just got done whining about how I had no idea how to rate these games. What's a 5.5 versus an 8.6 and so on and so forth. And for me, it really didn't come together until I actually kind of threw everything at the wall and gave everything a rating and then was able to kind

of look at it and say, okay, I like this game better than this game. So obviously it needs to be up at this level. And then this game I feel like is worse. So I'm going to drop it down like 0.4. And for my brain, what worked in this rating system was almost to look in the end as like what like tears almost right like we talked about the perfect 10 games that hey we said hey these are absolute must play games in our opinion nines dude i feel like almost anybody in the world would enjoy a nine or higher game yep you know the year territory right yeah exactly you know and then it's like eights for me i mean i'm looking eights are all really good games Like maybe they won't hit for everybody and maybe they had a flaw

or two, but it really wasn't that big of a deal. So like for me, I'm looking through everything that's in my eight range and I'm like, dude, these are all good video games. And then, you know, so, so, you know, not to just go through the whole list or anything, but it's like, so I wound up looking at my list and kind of going, these tiers make sense to me. If it's in the seven range, if it's in the eight range, if it's in the nine range and so on and so forth, and then I could make the fine tuning adjustments with using the decimals to say, I think this game's ever so slightly better than this game kind of thing. But i really broke it down like that did

you i mean we kind of picked on ryan for doing the the king of the hill almost right with like not giving 10 so it's like is that actually how you approached it ryan like i'm just curious how you guys went about the like the actual process yeah i try to look at it as like where's a good median um and like for just a good quality game like i was saying earlier like a 7.5 is just like a good game you know check it out or don't but i think this is a really good game i think anything in the eights like 8.5 is the middle there where these are these are great games you should definitely check them out lower scale you know 8.2 is kind of the bottom low rung of that 8.9 8.8 is like hey this is really good it's almost like an amazing game and then

anything in the nines i think is you gotta play it and then we have that top level so i try to kind of arrange each section but it's like seven is pretty good eight are great games and then nines are like you gotta check these out yeah so the way i went about my list was I put all the games in order on my current leaderboard and I said, okay, I know these are tens. Despite like what Ryan said, I literally said on the God of War pod, this is a perfect game. I think I said it like four times, so I have to give it a perfect score. And then I was like, okay, that's clearly the end of a tier. So now I'm going to start looking around 9.5. And then I would kind of scroll down and say, okay, that's clearly the end of a tier. So now I'm going to start looking around 9.5. And then I would kind of scroll down and say, okay, well, this is a nine range.

So now between nine and 10, let me put them in order and then kind of fine tune it. Okay, that I like Resident Evil 4, for example, a little bit more than Metal Gear Solid 5. So I went ahead and gave Resident Evil 4 the 9.3. And then I gave the Phantom Pain a 9.2. And I went ahead and gave Resident Evil 4 the 9.3, and then I gave the Phantom Pain a 9.2. And I was like, you know what? Outriders, I think it's right on par with the Phantom Pain. That's also a 9.2, but now we've hit another tier. So Persona 5, that's going to be a 9.1. And I kind of did markers. I think that's an eight. I think that's a seven. I think that's a six. And then I tried to take them one point at a time and then kind of fine tune it from there.

I and I only went as low as two. Josh went as low as one. Of course, Ryan, you went all the way down to 0.1. Yeah, I'm extra. Are we are we is this going to be a little fluid? Like if we'd something updates, can we change her? Because I look at because you got you had jedi survivor as a six and now that's not a six game and you you ranked that because of your issues with the pc you know

that's a six game that was because your your issues are you dude that game sucks it's so funny you mentioned that ryan i was going through that literally this morning and i was going through my this new leaderboard and i saw jed Jedi Survivor. I had it ranked fairly low, right? I think I was in the six and a half range or something like that. And then I went, you know what? The game ran like absolute garbage. I was disappointed in how they approached the sequel to one of my favorite games, which is Jedi Fallen Order.

So it was a letdown, but it's a pretty darn good video game overall. Was I disappointed as a sequel? Yes. Did we have some serious performance issues on release? Yes. But is it a good game that I would recommend to people? Also, yes. So I actually bumped it up significantly this morning.

No, definitely if you went to eight. So yeah, I mean, that's kind of the other beauty of this is I think our plan is to keep this fluid, you know, unlike the other leaderboard where it was like very rare that we would ever shift things around on this one. I'm assuming that our goal is to say, hey, yeah, I feel like this game needs to be bumped up a little bit. This game needs to be bumped down a little bit and so on. So it's actually like a living, breathing ranking for the games that we've covered on this podcast. For sure. And part of the reason that we never really updated the leaderboard is that I had to manually update the website. Now that it pulls from our shared Google sheet, any of us can go in there and change scores at any time. I think we just need a gentleman's agreement that one, we don't change each other's scores. That's the first thing I thought of like instantly right now. And two,

I don't think we should try to game the consensus rating. Like, okay, I have this at nine, but because you guys are too low on it, I'm going to put 9.9. That way it bumps up. Like, I think we just need an agreement not to do that. I mean, that's one of the things we've always had is, I mean, we have always suggested games to people. We have always said, hey, this game works for me. It doesn't work for Ryan, you know, or something like that. So yeah, I wouldn't approach it that way either, to be honest with you. I mean, plus disagreeing is part of the fun. I mean, honestly, it's so funny. There's a guy that I

see on X all the time that absolutely loves Forspoken. He thinks it's one of the best games that he's played. He loves it. He loves the writing, the gameplay, and all that. And I just kind of shake my head and I go, man, I don't get it. But at the same time, I'm super happy that this guy loves this game. We don't have that like, oh, you're dumb for liking that game. I can say that to Paul because Paul's my friend, right? But I would never say that to somebody else and and actually mean it in that regard because people have different gaming takes you know as far as that goes so yeah trying to game it would just defeat the purpose of it at that point yeah like you like you guys having it at 6.5 and 6.9 for fortnight what's the deal with that that's where it belongs no wait

fortnight's sweet i i am not ashamed of how much I like fortnight. Now, fortnight has to be below pub G. It has to be below war zone. It has to be below apex. Like that's also a little bit of it for me is between all the free to play battle Royales. You know,

I'm going to have to put them in a certain order, by the way, on our leaderboard. If anyone doesn't know, you can click the name of any game and it'll go to links to listen to those deep dives. And several of them, I also ran AI summarizers on the subtitles in our YouTube videos. So, for example, Star Wars Jedi Survivor, I brought it up. And so here's how AI summarized this part of the show. It says the hosts give their individual ratings for Jedi survivor,

two of them rating it, make love and one murder. They discuss the technical issues, the lack of challenge in combat, disappointing boss fights and limited locations in the game. They struggled to decide on a ranking, but ultimately settle on placing it 49 on their leaderboard. That was,

you know, back when, you know, back when, you know, the, under the old leaderboard system, but yeah, that and the loot boxes were all really lame. Cause you know,

maybe I need to move it back down now that you remind me about all that stuff. The good guys win. All right. Well, let me hit you guys with a couple of stats on this man, because I think it'll also spark a little bit of conversation, because I'm also going to share where did we rate games different.

All right. Josh, you and I, I ran our numbers first. We have both rated 111 games. 17 of them I already shared. We have the exact same score. For example, Dead Island 2, we both rated an 8.4. Just hilariously exact same. And then I looked at how many are within 0.2, because we've said on the show a lot that you and I are, quote, very different gamers. I've heard you say that a lot. The number of games within 0.2 is 34 out of 111, which means 30% of our reviews are within 0.2. They're quite close. On average, we rate games within 0.8 of each other on the whole.

My gaming brother! We are gaming brothers for sure. Now, what do you think is the game we have the most difference in our rating? Oh, it's absolutely Stardew Valley or Outer Wilds. It is neither. What? I would have bet that for sure. No.

Is it RimWorld? We have a game. Is it RimWorld? Nope. Not RimWorld. I don't know. I have no idea. Phasmophobia.

Really? That is our biggest difference. It is three for me and a 7.5 for you. So it is a huge, massive difference there for Phasmophobia. Yeah, you really didn't like Phasmophobia. The games that we were the most different on were Stardew Valley, Rimworld, Outer Wilds, No Rest for the Wicked, Steel Rising, Phasmophobia, The Forest, Monster Hunter World, Pacific Drive, and Forspoken. My Forspoken rating is very low at five. It's just that you have it

so low that we had a bigger difference there. I'm so mad at that game. I don't apologize for that. Yeah. So yeah, 30% of our ratings are almost exactly the same average difference of 0.8. After that, I ran me and Ryan. We have 42 games that we've both rated, not a single one exactly the same, which is 0%. If, if anyone wants to know within 0.2 of each other,

though, we did have 11 out of 42, which was 26%. Oh, almost the same as me and Josh. Our average difference is 0.85. Almost the same, but surprisingly a little bit more different than I think most people would

guess. Uh, what do you think is our biggest difference in score? Uh, I got news for you. It's a game we both hate. It has something to do with you rating some things incredibly low.

It's either Battlefield or... What's the other one? Oh, Pacific Drive. Yeah, it's Pacific Drive. Yeah, Pacific Drive. Oh, yeah, I see. You're a 4.5. I can't believe you gave Pacific Drive a 0.1.

Like, that game had issues. Well, here, hold on. Hold on. I'm going to tell you. Let me get out of my... Oh, wait. No. Put it in park. Let me get the... Oh, okay. All right, I'm out tell you let me get out of my oh wait no put it

in park let me get the oh okay all right i'm out okay i'm out of the door oh wait no i didn't put all my cars rolling away hold on hold on all right fair fair enough the game had some issues remember my dumpster that kept shooting out all the fake that was so excited for that you had the santa dumpster dude it was like here you go here you go the oprah dumpster you get a door you get a door that's exactly what it was uh so ryan the games that we had the most different were hollow knight fortnight star wars jedi survivor fall guys halo reach and pacific drive one point of clarification on Reach, that's the one I think more than any other game people come into our Discord and say, why do you have Halo Reach so low? That game was

a classic when it came out. And I'm always quick to say, I completely agree, but we are playing those games today and rating them. And Halo Reach, in my my opinion does not hold up at all the fact you don't have aim down sights the fact that you don't have sprint unless you pick a class that has sprint all of those things kind of hurt it for for me and josh that's why we have it a bit low um so i was a little curious ryan like have you played halo reach recently or is this more like going off when you played it in years past? Mine was from years past. It was, yeah, it was still kind of meh, but it was definitely not like this year or anything.

Because we have some friends that will still play Halo Reach. Oh, really? Josh and I think they're crazy. That is crazy. You can go play Helldivers. You can go play Apex or Call of Duty or X Defiant. Even Overwatch.watch like you have all these options how can you still play halo reach and that's the tough part because like for

me if we're going by what is the game if we rated it today like overwatch would not be a 10 you know that would be overwatch 2 to be fair we'd have it quite right. Exactly. And so, you know, it's one of those things where it is tough because when we played a game at the time, I'll reference no rest for the wicked again. I mean, it's probably way better than what it was when we played it, you know, two months ago or a month ago or whatever it was. But we, we, when we play a game and we do the episode, we rate it right then on how we feel about it. And so, yes, it's tough because you can say, well, this game was great back in the day, but it doesn't mean that it's great now. And that's what we're trying to do is give our ratings for what was it like to play this

game for this podcast? And then would we recommend it to people in its current state? That's why I'm glad this is kind of fluid so i can because i mean i left uh disco elysium off because i'd given it a such a bad score because i played it before the narration and everything so i'm excited to go back in and check it out and then i mean if you guys got it at a 10 and a 9.6 like i gotta check it out it's really we just had somebody in the discord server run through that and they were like oh yeah it's incredible i think was it jiggle puff somebody but it was like yo this game's really awesome and they knew they were getting close to the end of it as well but i can't imagine trying to read through that game

oh it was so bad yeah i like that honestly as crazy as that sounds like reading it versus voiceover the story's the same regard you know either way but it's just i can't i can't imagine trying to do that and then feeling the same way. I came here to lead, not to read. And then the last pairing would be Josh and Ryan. So the two of you guys, you have each rated 45 games.

Exact same score at the time was three. I do see that Josh might have changed Hellblade 2 a little bit, but at the time I was going to bring up the fact that you guys had Helldivers 2, Deep Rock Galactic, and Hellblade 2 at the exact same scores. And the Hellblade one really surprised me because Josh seemed so much higher on it than Ryan during the deep dive. But Josh, I do see you've bumped it up just a tad to an 8.8.

Ryan's got it at an 8.5. I have it down at 7.5 under the, you know, fun, but not a classic rating. I will say I'm a little surprised you've got it that high, Josh. You do have it above stuff like no man's sky.

You've got it above fallout, new Vegas, hearthstone. Like you really love your hellblade too except that you're on mute there he is i'm leaving it in too everyone knows your dingus everybody this guy doesn't even know how to use a mute button we can't trust this guy's scores i i'm so embarrassed now i have a good excuse i just changed my taskbar to auto hide which is where like the little gear icon for my mute button is and then it was like my taskbar

disappeared so i was like oh no i can't find it nice oh man uh this is actually one that i bumped up this morning when i was going through and fine tuning stuff. And I will say, I get it. I get the lack of gameplay in Hellblade 2. I understand that. But man, the memories that that game has burned into my brain are going to be with me forever. And that alone to me is memorable enough to say this game deserves to be ranked high because there's not a lot of games that can do that. You know, like you, you leave that kind of impression on me, even if the other stuff isn't the best, I'm still going to remember that. And that memory and what's burned into my brain is going to stand out to me. And those are the things that I want to experience. You know, I'm willing to put up with a lot of

other stuff that may not be the best if i leave with that kind of impression on a game yeah so what's i was just gonna say because like that i i'm i'm with you paul on like the overall i think it was a fair game but that level with ingen um fighting her is what took me over the top to where i think everyone should check this out just for that level it was just it was so good yeah for that three minutes of content the game's only six hours like it's not like it's asking that much go play it on game pass don't pay the 50 goodness gracious do that yeah so you guys uh for games that were within 0.2 you had 29 almost the exact same as me and j. Your average difference is also 0.8. So it's

actually the same difference as me and Josh. Shockingly, the biggest difference was me and Ryan. Although I will say, I feel like there's some outlying stats here with Pacific Drive and Battlefield. I don't know if that would maybe change stats a little bit but your guys's biggest differences are destiny 2 no surprise no rest for the wicked fall guys halo reach and pacific drive so yeah and then uh lastly just really quick here i did look at all the games that all three of us rated, and there's 42 of them, our most closest scores are all games that are rated pretty high. It is Red Dead 2, God of War, Cyberpunk, Helldivers 2, Hogwarts Legacy, Resident Evil 4 Remake, Satisfactory, Fallout New Vegas, Diablo 4, Splitgate, Deep Rock Galactic, and PUBG pub g all of those there is a grand total of one point

or less difference so if i rated it seven josh rated 7.5 ryan rated eight you know that's adding up all the differences together so those are actually all quite close the biggest differences and i'll share who the outlier is. Hollow Knight, you can blame me. That's Paul. I'm way lower. That's Paul 100% on Hollow Knight. All right, I'll let you guys guess. So yeah, I've got it at seven.

You guys have it at nine and 9.1. Who's the outlier for Destiny 2? Oh, me. Josh, not Ryan. You might think Ryan would be too high, but it's that Josh is so low. Fortnite, who's the outlier ryan ryan we already talked about that uh some of these yes shockingly we've already kind of covered a lot

star wars jedi survivor paul i was the outlier yep no rest for the wicked me josh star wars squadrons was one of our biggest differences oh is that me i'm gonna say paul me i went i went a lot lower than you guys squadrons for me was really fun for about two hours and then i kind of hated it after uh fall guys we already talked about ryan went super high halo reach ryan went high and pacific drive is the one that's totally wild because Ryan is 0.1, but then Josh and I aren't close either. Cause I gave it a four or five.

He gave it a six, eight. So Pacific drive, we are all over the board where we've got Josh saying it's playable. It's above that 6.5 tier. I've got it below saying, stay away. And Ryan's basically saying there's nothing redeemable

ryan's like this thing is infected with the zombie plague run run i think anything under like a five is just like don't even look that direction so like it doesn't matter where it is that's why i was like i'm gonna give it a point one because i was so let down but we all agree it's not great yes so we have that in common at least and speaking of not great i do want to say because you guys have referenced many times how small my leaderboard is um i will say a lot of the games that i haven't played are all like at the bottom of this so i'm not too mad about it you know you guys had to think of all the time you spent playing all these games that aren't good and i don't want to i didn't have to spend that time we try to block those out yeah like go ahead i was gonna say i don't want to reminisce about my time in uh devour or uh i'm higher on overcooked too than josh but like there's

some games on our list that are just dead now so like knockout city is no longer around the cycle vanilla before it was uh gosh what did they rebrand it to uh frontiers the cycle frontiers yeah so the the old edition of the cycle you know is dead and the new one i think is dead as well so yeah there's some on here that you wouldn't even be able to play if you wanted ryan but on the the whole, you did kind of luck out. A lot of these are pretty bad. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, just as a reminder, if anyone wants to check out that new leaderboard,

videogamerspod.com, and then just go ahead and click on the leaderboards tab near the top, and then you can see the new leaderboard. Anything else to cover, guys? Or are we done with this one? No, I'm glad we have this new system. Oh, yeah. People should definitely check it out. I mean, if you're looking for a game to play, it's funny because we, you know, we always have people hop

in our discord server, which we love. I mean, we're not saying don't do that, but if you aren't in the mood to chat with people and you're going, Hey, what's a game that I probably should play? Like we just had a big conversation with a couple of people today about cyberpunk where they were like, Hey, I, you know, I have this game. I never played it. I bought it way back when, and I was waiting for it to be good. And it's like, dude, it's good now. You should play that game. But yeah, I mean, if you're looking for something to play, this is a great place to go to take a look and say, hey, what's something that maybe I missed? Again, if you want to hear our thoughts on it, there's an episode for it. Like that's what this leaderboard is about. So you can then go and listen to the deep dive on it and get

our thoughts on it and see if you think maybe it's worth picking up as well. But I mean, that's one of our favorite things to do. It's one of the reasons we do this podcast is if we can talk about a game that we love and then somebody picks it up and they go, dude, thank you guys. Like I picked up this game because I heard your episode on it. I they go, dude, thank you guys. Like I picked up this game because I heard your episode on it. I'm playing it. I absolutely love it. Like that is one of the reasons we do what we do, you know? And so that ability to talk about games, share games, get people hyped about stuff, sometimes share the misery. You know, we get excited about games like Pacific drive and then they come out and then we get really disappointed

and we're like, dang it, man. That totally missed the mark for us. It's good to have people to do that with as well. And then if it helps you save money because it's a bad game that we had to endure and now you don't have to, that's good too. We'll be the guinea pigs for it.

I too, with all this, this whole setup is so cool. I just want to shout out for Paul because, like, he put all this together and came up with the idea of it and everything. And he's the man that organizes everything. Like Josh said, he's super on top of all of this. So, like, the last episode, the last twig going over all the games, he kind of loosened the reins a little bit on me and Josh.

And we're like, we don't know what to do. Like, Paul, this is too much we don't know what to do. Like, well, this is too much freedom. Tell us, tell us what to say. So here's to you, buddy, for,

for getting it all put together for us. But yeah, that's all I got on it. Well, I think we have a very good division of responsibilities. You know, Ryan handles all the editing. Josh is handling social media and is by far the most active on discord and

answering emails and i put together these outlines you know i think i think we have a really good thing going overall all right well that wraps everything up here for this bonus round episode thank you to everyone for listening make sure to check out patreon support options at multiplayer squad.com rate us five stars join the discord and follow us on socials at video gamers pod we love you all until next time happy gaming see ya you're on mute ryan yeah yeah dang it i didn't get it no he looked i did look dang it i looked after i said no i looked oh that's two for flinching yeah Yeah. All right. See you, everybody.