Video Gamers Podcast - Borderlands 4 Reveal, GTA 6 Delayed, and… Half-Life 3!? – TWIG | Gaming Podcast

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

Gaming hosts Josh, Ryan, and John break down the biggest video game headlines this week! Borderlands 4 gameplay footage leaks ahead of its full reveal, Grand Theft Auto 6 slips to a May 2026 launch, a...nd Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 hits a major milestone with over 3 million preorders sold. Plus, Xbox announces an $80 price point for first-party video games, matching Nintendo’s next-gen plans, and Half-Life 3 may actually be real — insiders claim it’s now fully playable in internal testing. Your weekly hit of gaming news, hot takes, and video game silliness — from the Video Gamers Podcast. Thanks to our MYTHIC Supporters: Redletter, Disratory, Ol’ Jake, and Gaius Connect with the show: Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/videogamerspod Join our Gaming Community: https://discord.gg/Dsx2rgEEbz Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/videogamerspod/  Follow us on X: https://twitter.com/VideoGamersPod  Subscribe to us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@VideoGamersPod?sub_confirmation=1   Visit us on the web: https://videogamerspod.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:49 2026 it's probably scared of going up against expedition 33 Borderlands 4 goes next-gen. Oh, no. No. No, it still looks like borderlands and Xbox joins Nintendo in digging deeper into gamers pockets. We've got all the gaming news you need for this week, but first, some introductions are in order. I am your host Josh and joining me.
Starting point is 00:01:18 His brief stint is a Frenchman may be over, but some images can never be unseen. It's Ryan. Ha ha ha. You're looking a little different today, Ryan. I am, I'm actually kind of sad. Like I enjoy dressing up, you know, it was a fun time. I gotta say, dude, I watched the video back today and the reveal of your outfit that you wore
Starting point is 00:01:43 for our Expedition 33 deep dive. And you can pull it off, man. You really can. Like, I was kinda like- You like the mustache? I even showed my wife, and I was like, look what Ryan did, and she was like, oh my goodness, and she's like, that's not bad.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Like, and I was just like, all right, well, good on you, man. So I just have to like smoke cigarettes and be rude? Huh, American. So just be yourself. Yeah, there you go. Well, I don't smoke cigarettes and be rude. Huh a medic gun. So just be yourself. Yeah Why don't smoke cigarettes? All right, and Joining us he's taken up French opera and is learning classical piano because he wants to compose an absolute
Starting point is 00:02:18 banger of a boss battle soundtrack John You know, I know you're saying that in jest, but you have no idea how accurate that is. Like, I don't think I've ever listened to so much opera in my entire life. I said this before recording today. I posted it on our, our X account. I have legitimately been listening to the clear obscure soundtrack, like all day long, all day.
Starting point is 00:02:44 And I've been playing three songs over and over. And one is one of the boss battle soundtracks, where it just, it's the heaviest song on the soundtrack. And it is fire, dude. And I have been- Yeah, about two and a half minutes in. Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah, that's exactly it.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And I tell, like my buddy, Andy, who just beat the game last night as well, I sent it to him and then I hear the music just blasting out of their office and I'm just like yeah Yeah, guys are ridiculous, I don't care I make no excuses for whatsoever I I did that soundtrack now that I have beaten the game Like my brain is just equating like the soundtrack to certain like boss fights or moments in the game now. And it's I am here for it, man. It's incredible. So well, that's at least at least something was worth that $40
Starting point is 00:03:34 dude. Yeah, the soundtrack, you know? Well, yeah, look at the universe. Look at the universe punishing Ryan for that right there. Right after I said that if my camera Ryan What the frick dude, that's what you get Josh have have you played any other games since you beat expedition 33 last night? I have not nope So I was up at my normal hour was up at 2 a.m. This morning, and I beat Expedition 33 yesterday so this morning. I was like, okay, this frees up some bandwidth, let's get to some games that I was neglecting. Borderlands 4, which we're gonna be talking about,
Starting point is 00:04:10 is coming out. So I was like, I never really gave Borderlands 3 a shot. Let me try that this morning. So I queued it up on my cloud service and I immediately felt like Andy dropping Woody in Toy Story. Like I don't want to play with you anymore. Like Expedition 33 was so good that like playing anything else right now, it just feels kind
Starting point is 00:04:34 of lame, dude. It's tough, man. It's tough. Like I need something to bridge the gap between before Doom the Dark Ages comes out and it's like I don't know what I want to Play like obviously I'll play some rivals here and there but rivals is kind of starting to Start to wear on it. Just a little bit a little bit. Yeah Dude, I don't know what's going on right now. Ryan's camera is that word stop touching the cord I'm not touching anything about maybe getting a new cord
Starting point is 00:05:07 for this camera of yours? This is what happens when you insult the baguette gods. You can take the boy out of France, but you can't take the France out of the boy. Yeah. You get punished for it. Well, nobody wants to see me. I'm not in costumes, so nobody wants to see me anyway.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Oh my goodness, man. That's fair. So guys, we got a lot of news to cover, so let's just get into it, man. I think the big news for this week is that GTA six got delayed and Ryan's hopes of, you know, making any kind of showing in our yearly draft completely went down the toilet. I couldn't see them out. I'm tapping out right now. It's bad. It's bad, dude. I will say this, Ryan, even if GTA six released this year, I'm not sure you're winning that draft, dude. Like against me, I had, dude, I have kingdom. You had a pretty good team, dude. I have Expedition 33.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I've got the altar. You've got the two game of the year candidates right there. Yeah, I mean, I just, I got banger after banger, so. Jostradamus right here. It's great, man. It's great, but so is this surprising to you guys that GTA 6 got delayed to 2026?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Nope. No. No? GTA Online and GTA 5 are doing just fine. There's no financial pressure for them to move on. And frankly, I would rather them wait and get it right than release it early. And anyway, so it's fine. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:06:36 It's just, it's so frustrating. Like, I mean, six months, eight months, like whatever the time span is going to be on your delays. I don't understand how these developers can't foresee that. I know I've said this before, but you've got to have some idea like, oh, we may not hit it, you know, within a week or two. That's one thing, but like six months, eight months, like that's, that's a long time. That's a lot of development that goes into a game.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Like to, to push it off that far, I mean, maybe they're giving themselves a little bit of a cushion and some wiggle room, but I just hate these announcements. The Oblivion Shadow Drop was my favorite thing ever because it was like, hey, we're going to release this game. Boom, here it is. And that was it. And it was exciting. It was fun. It was in the moment. It was done. And you got to play it right away. I just hate waiting 15 years to wait for a game, you know Well, the other thing is we might because they said that the release is now May of 2026
Starting point is 00:07:32 Yeah, you know we might get closer to that and they go. Yeah, it's still not ready guys still not ready You know, I mean that that is a possibility. This doesn't surprise me You know, I was honestly more surprised that they were aiming for 2025. I think just about everybody in the world thought it was going to release in 2026. So this is not a shock to me at all. I'm okay with it, man. I know we hate delays and things like that, but we have learned over the years to be patient as gamers. And as much as we go, man, I wanted GTA six this year.
Starting point is 00:08:07 It's never good to rush a game out the door. And I think time and time and time again, we've seen that as gamers. Cyberpunk 2077 is probably the most famous example of you should not have released this game in the condition that it was in. You should have taken another six months or honestly a year and released the most awesome game
Starting point is 00:08:27 that the world has seen, which honestly Cyberpunk 2077 in its current state is a top five game of all time for me. You know, it was not that at release, but now it's honestly, it's up there with the experience that it is. And if it had come out in that state, I think a lot more people would probably have that take,
Starting point is 00:08:47 but it soured. I mean, how many people in our community went, oh yeah, I remember I tried Cyberpunk, I've just never gone back to it. And it's like, dude, it's a completely different game now. Like it's fixed, you should play this game. And they're kind of like, yeah, well, someday I'll get to it.
Starting point is 00:09:01 That's the problem with the negative feedback loop though, is that it had such poor reviews when it came out that there's a lot of people that probably didn't even give it. That's the problem with the negative feedback loop though, is that it had such poor reviews when it came out that there's a lot of people that probably didn't even give it the light of the day. Like when Last of Us 2 came out, there was a whole lot of controversy about certain aspects of the narrative in the game and people review bombed it. And I was actually one of those people that was affected. It got so much negative publicity that I didn't even touch it.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I have to imagine Cyberpunk 2077 is the same. It was released in a poor state, but everybody I know who's played it in its current state has been like, it is a top of all time game. It is, like legitimately it is. So good. But yeah, I mean, I think as like, gamers, we go, well, of course I'm going to go back and try this. But I, you know, I think there is a vast majority of people that are going to say, oh no, all I heard was bad stuff and I'm not going to play it. And you just kind of check it off, you know, out of the brain and make room for something else. And it's like, but you're missing out on this. So let me ask you another question. Do you think that GTA 6 will be the greatest game ever made? No, they already made that game. It's
Starting point is 00:10:14 I wish I had a trash can to puke into right now guys You can quote me on this guy. I went into that game with such high expectations and it nailed it. I reached out to Sandfall today. Yes. They are getting a lot of requests, as you can imagine.
Starting point is 00:10:36 But I asked them if we could fly out there and meet them and hang with their dev team. If they say yes, mark my words. Oh, we're going. We are going on a field trip. We're going. I wanna shake their hands, man. I'll go for that. I'll even wear my outfit.
Starting point is 00:10:50 They'll ask Ryan, they'll be like, please do, please do. Oh my goodness, man. I mean, okay, all joking aside, you know, I think the answer that most gamers would have is the expectation is yes GTA 6 will become the best game ever made. This is Rockstar They made Red Dead Redemption 2 which is wildly widely considered one of the best if not the best video game ever made
Starting point is 00:11:18 You know, there's a certain level of preference that can come into play But I don't think anybody argues that it is truly one of the best games that's available. GTA 6, same thing, dude. It's got to be the most mind blowing, amazing game the gamers have ever seen, right? That's the expectation. That is a hard expectation to live up to, man. John, Expedition 33, you and I love it. We have both said it's in my top 10 games of all time
Starting point is 00:11:48 at this point, like legitimately, I know that people will say, well, there's some recency bias there, but dude, games don't hit like that game does. But the expectation for most people with Expedition 33 was very non-existent, you know? I mean, how many people in our community were like, dude, the only reason I picked this game up is because you guys were hyping it up so much.
Starting point is 00:12:10 GTA 6 does not have that, like, you know, that leeway, man. If it's not the most incredible game that people have played in the last decade, that's going to be a problem. I mean, that's not to say that they're not going to make billions and billions of dollars off of it, but I do think that the expectation level for GTA six is so astronomically high that that's a high, that's a hard bar to meet. And so I have to wonder, are they taking this extra six months to go, guys, we can't screw this up. We can't have a bunch of bugs in the game We can't have this not
Starting point is 00:12:50 meeting gamers expectations Especially if we're gonna be charging a hundred dollars for it, which is not confirmed But listen if gamers are not rebelling against this and in an outcry right now, guess what they're gonna do They're gonna they're gonna charge a hundred bucks for or very close to it at that point you know why they're not rebelling because all the Nintendo fanboys send yes master I'll pay whatever you want 80 dollars from Mario Kart yeah absolutely no problem at all yeah I don't even I don't even care about Donkey Kong but yeah I'll pay it yeah just give me more. Oh, Donkey Kong, $80? I don't even care about Donkey Kong, but yeah, I'll pay it. Yeah, just give me more games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And freaking Nintendo. We're gonna get to that. Don't you worry, we're gonna get to it, because we've got a news story here where Xbox, they followed suit, man. Course they did. So we're gonna save that one for just a little bit. So the big news of the week, GTA 6 delayed,
Starting point is 00:13:43 John's already like, I can't with you two. John's like chomping at the. John's already like, I can't with you too. There's a business strategy behind that. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. We should, we should just get into it since we've tiptoed around it. All right. Well, okay. Then let's do it. John, I want to hear John lead us into this next news story, John. So why don't you tell everybody about Xbox and what they're doing with their pricing? Right. So as we speculated in the Switch episode, if Nintendo was able to successfully pull off or propose a price point of $80 a game, everybody else is going to follow suit. That's just how the economy works. They set a bar. If the baller is tolerated by the consumer base, everybody else
Starting point is 00:14:23 follows the bar and it becomes a supply and demand thing. As long as the demand is there, the price goes up. So, Xbox announced a hike to $80 for their upcoming games as well. But the... if I had to guess, the real strategy behind that is to move people more towards their subscription service. If they get more people on recurring revenue platforms, ultimately that is a more sustainable thing for a business to be able to run on. That's why you see no more blockbusters and you see lots of Netflix and cloud streaming services. That is just the way these things work. Netflix and cloud streaming services. That is just the way these things work.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Now, I think personally that Xbox is, and Microsoft is doing a fantastic thing in positioning themselves to fight against Nintendo. We had this whole discussion, argument really, about Nintendo's price point on their new console being $450 and their games being $80. By the way, that $450 doesn't even get you a complete system. You're still missing a camera and all these other peripheral devices and oh, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:34 maybe or maybe not the Joy-Cons are fixed. Who knows? Meanwhile, Microsoft has been doing exceptional things with cloud gaming. Like anybody who isn't on Game game pass even if you're not a xbox gamer it's 25 bucks a month and you get triple a titles that's for the premium that's like the cream of the crop that's exactly 25 bucks a month and you get day one access to titles like claret clarence skier expedition 33 day one you get a South of midnight day one. And that's $25.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Those two games is coming out. It's gonna be day one. Day one, you don't even need a console. I'm playing like I was playing. I played South of midnight end to end on my TV with no console, just streamed it right to my TV. And I think that Microsoft is doing the financially responsible thing by basically making the Nintendo Switch argument obsolete.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Like you don't even need that thing. Backbone is a peripheral device, which they sent Ryan and I this little device. Hopefully people are watching the video here. But this little device, the MSRP for the first version was $100, so I'm assuming that this pro version is going to probably be in the ballpark of $150-$200, and it connects to your phone, and all of a sudden your phone is now a
Starting point is 00:16:57 portable gaming rig, where yeah you're not going to get Mario Brothers, you're not going to get Zelda, but you get Halo on the go man, you get Borderlands on the, but you get Halo on the go, man! You get Borderlands on the go, you get Claire Obscure, freaking Claire Obscure, AAA, high lift title, day one on your freaking phone for a fraction of the price. So it seems weird that Xbox is positioning their download titles at $80 or their physical titles at $80 or whatever, but I think that the grand strategy is to move people more towards that subscription service, which Nintendo currently cannot compete with. That's very true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah, I mean, this is one of those things where, you know, we have picked on the Switch 2 a pretty good bit. We've been picking on Nintendo a pretty good bit, but it's only because Nintendo is kind of leading the charge in this case. And like you said, sure enough, and we talked about this. We said, dude, if Nintendo does this and gets away with it, every everybody else will follow suit. And here you go. The dominoes are starting to fall.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And Xbox has said, dude, yep, we're raising the price of our games too. They cost a lot of money to make, not every game is successful, so we're bumping the price of these, you know, they're premium games. That doesn't mean that every game in the world is gonna be $80, and that's also not the case with Nintendo.
Starting point is 00:18:20 It's the big games, the first party games, the games that everybody wants to play, those are going to be your premium $80 games. If it's a indie title or a smaller game, you know, you're probably not looking at 80 bucks for it. But I am with you a hundred percent, John, in that Xbox is smart. They can't compete with the Switch in like the first party titles and the loyalty that Nintendo has and just kind of the market that Nintendo has. So you don't want to go head to head with Nintendo in that regard. So how do you, how do you, you know, establish, you know, yourself against PlayStation and Nintendo? And I agree. I think Xbox
Starting point is 00:19:02 is doing a masterful job at it to say, hey dude, Game Pass is where it's at. I have had Game Pass for probably over the last two years a dozen times. Now I sign up, I play the game I want, and then I cancel it, cause I'll go four or five months without a game, and then I sign back up, I pay the $10, or I think it's $19 now for the non-ultimate one,
Starting point is 00:19:24 but the PC game pass I play the game and I the way I look at it is I'm buying this game for 20 bucks I get that I don't get to keep it. It's a subscription service But if I can play if I can play this game for $20, that's cheaper than me paying $60 for it so financially that makes sense for me I Think this is a good move for Xbox like legitimately. I think this is a good move for Xbox. Like legitimately, I think this is how they compete. They can't compete with PlayStation
Starting point is 00:19:50 on the first party exclusives. They're not going to. So where is their niche in the gaming market? It is through Game Pass. And we're seeing this more and more because Game Pass used to get like the cool game occasionally. And now we're seeing where it's like, dude, this game, this hot title, Claire obscure doom, the dark ages, uh, you know, south of midnight. Maybe not was a big title, but you know, but, but it's a big hit for them on, on,
Starting point is 00:20:17 uh, on, uh, so blue prints. Yes. Like so one we're seeing where they are much more willing to put these big name titles on Game Pass now because it is driving people to Game Pass. And even us, dude, Xbox don't pay us a dime. But how often are people in our community saying, guys, like, I have a problem. I want a new game, but, you know, I don't get paid for two weeks. And we're like, dude, Game Pass, like sign up, you know, like you can play the game you want for a month and then just cancel your subscription if you want to.
Starting point is 00:20:51 But like we don't get anything out of that other than just sharing a love of games and people being able to experience them. But it's working, man. And so you have to give them credit for that. I agree with you 100%. This is not trying to, I don't think their goal is to get $80 games sold to people. I think their goal is to say, dude, the better option here is go sign up for Game Pass, you know? Yeah. Whereas I do think Nintendo's goal is please give us $80 for this tiny little cartridge so you can play Mario Kart. I think Xbox is smart, man. And so the big question now is, is PlayStation going to follow suit? Ooh, well, and they will. Um, I think that we have a precedent for that in the past when, uh, when DVD was
Starting point is 00:21:40 evolving into what is now Blu ray. I don't know if you guys remember this, but there was a technology competition between HD DVD and Blu-ray. HD DVD came out first, arguably had the better name because it's literally the DVD, what you're used to plus HD. But Sony ended up executing their business plan better and won out.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I think it is extremely possible, if not likely, that Sony will follow suit with their own cloud service. But we'll see. I think Sony- But Nintendo will have to follow too. Here's the problem, and again, we don't console war. Whatever you wanna play your games on, man, we're happy for you, right?
Starting point is 00:22:22 But people love to try to console war things. And so it's like, I'm not trying to pit these consoles against each other, but I do think that you have three major players in a market that are all trying to compete and saying like, look, we have to compete with these people, but we don't want to go head to head with them. And I think that they are starting to find out how they can make that work. Again, Nintendo, they're the kings of get grandma and grandpa involved, get the young kids involved, make it easy for people to play these games on these consoles so there
Starting point is 00:22:51 is no complication whatsoever and that will sell. Your first party IPs are the most iconic things in existence and you're going to lean into that. Xbox and PlayStation have been kind of warring head to head over the decades. PlayStation, you really can't argue that they don't have a lockdown on the first party titles. God of War, GTA six. Like, I mean, these games are some of the most iconic games, and they always are PlayStation exclusive at first, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And so Playstations kind of lock that down. What does Xbox have? Well, for a long time, they were trying to compete in the first party titles with things like Gears of War and Halo and stuff like that, but they just can't keep up. And so now Xbox, and you have to admit they're the leader in the subscription model, this Xbox Game Pass. I don't do any cloud gaming, so I really can't speak to that. But from my understanding, talking to you, John, and other people that do, Xbox makes it very easy, very clean, and it's simple to do, and it seems to work really, really well.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I think that they have found that niche, and they're going to continue to push people towards that and say, look, if you want to play these games, all you got to do is have this monthly subscription, and you can play them to your heart's content, man. Just sign up. That's so wild, because that's what we were, I mean, we've been talking about it for a long time,
Starting point is 00:24:11 is like, man, PlayStation, what is Xbox and Microsoft gonna do? Like, how are they gonna beat Sony? How are they gonna beat PlayStation? They have all these exclusives, they have a better system. Like, what is going to happen here? And I mean, I found myself, I signed up same with you, John.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I got the backbone. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to sign up for the cause I had the game pass for the PC. I'm like, I'm going to do the ultimate. Get it for my, uh, Xbox that I have. Cause I do have an Xbox and then, um, it'll work for my phone as well. Cause I have the Xbox on the app on my phone. And then my daughter comes to me. She's like, dad, there's so many games on here. I downloaded
Starting point is 00:24:49 this, I downloaded that. She's like, this is awesome. And I'm, and it was like 10 bucks more than what I was already paying for the PC one. So to have the ability to have a buffet of games, access to this library where it's like, all right, kid, you go and try whatever you want and figure out what you want to play and love. And I don't have to go shell out, uh, 60, 70, soon to be $80 for a game that the kid may not like, you know, when they're getting day one access, like that's for me, that's, that is, that is Xbox making that, that leap back over Sony and and PlayStation are going to have to respond in some manner. I don't know what it's going to be, but I am impressed on how this is kind
Starting point is 00:25:31 of transpired and how everything's played out. Yeah. And Nintendo is at the bottom of this race when it comes to their online service and the e-shop. And I mean, I saw an article, it's not, it's not something we're covering, but even developers were going to Nintendo and saying, dude, you have got to fix your eShop, man. Like you guys suck at distributing games and making it easy for people to buy these. Yes. So, so this is something I, I know we're spending way too much time on this topic, but I w I wanted to make this point. We, um, in the Switch episode, we're having some counter arguments about the, um, the stick drift of the Joy-Cons and whether or not that was
Starting point is 00:26:12 intentional. We have our opposing opinions on that. But, uh, in general, I think that the Japanese mindset, which Nintendo is still, you know, know at its core a Japanese company fundamentally they the Japanese people tend to I should say culture tends to uh pride itself in refinement of quality But that does not necessarily mean that they are the most current
Starting point is 00:26:44 Culturally if you go to Tokyo Japan necessarily mean that they are the most current culturally. If you go to Tokyo, Japan, anywhere in Japan really, but even Tokyo, which you think of as this cyber-punky, futuristic city, people still use fax machines there. Like you still have to sign things physically, sometimes with a stamp. Like if you live there, you have to literally go get a physical stamp to sign documents with.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And Microsoft has always been sort of at the cutting edge of tech. They are figuring out how they can compete and I think it is a brilliant strategy. You know, like you said, they can't compete with the first party titles with either of those parties, with Sony or with Nintendo.
Starting point is 00:27:23 So what can they compete on? Well, they frickin' nailed this cloud service. Not only do you get this whole buffet of games for a pretty nominal fee, but also, like with cloud gaming, you don't have to wait until the game is downloaded and all the patches, bro, it just streams to your phone or your whatever, your TV, and if you don't like it, no harm, no foul. Quick game
Starting point is 00:27:45 onto the next one. Yeah. All right. Let's move on a little bit guys. Cause we got two more things to cover here quickly. Uh, we hinted at borderlands for, uh, we got an 18 minute gameplay breakdown for borderlands for, uh, which is the most gameplay that we have seen for this. I have said, I'm not excited for Borderlands 4. I am a huge fan of Borderlands 1 and 2. 3 was fun, but kind of fell off. And then Tiny Tina's Wonderlands, I was honestly pretty disappointed in.
Starting point is 00:28:17 It just felt like a money grab. It really didn't offer anything new. It even reused all the old assets. I mean, without any changes whatsoever. So I kind of soured a little bit on Borderlands and Then you know Borderlands 4 gets announced and you know people get very excited about it And then then we get this gameplay kind of breakdown And I'm gonna be honest guys. I don't see like this isn't an evolution for me, man and I kind of joked about it in the, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:46 in the intro of the show, because it's like, I don't know how long it's been since Borderlands 3. I feel like it's probably been a solid six years or so. You know, off the top of my head, that's just a guess. Sounds right. But it's like, how has this game evolved? Like, I feel like it hasn't at all. Like, you know, yes, you have to maintain that kind of cell shaded style that is Borderlands.
Starting point is 00:29:11 You know, you gotta maintain the whole premise of the game with the guns and all that stuff. And it's just like, they have a grapple hook now? Like, cool. And in the gameplay, they showed the guy slide at one point. They're like, Oh, you can run and slide. And I'm like, dude, this is what you're showing off. The fact that there's a grapple hook and I can slide on the ground. These are not game like evolutions, man. Games have been doing this crap for, for a decade now. Like this is what you're showing me.
Starting point is 00:29:42 You've been doing it for a decade. I have massive concerns about your game at this point, man. No, but you don't understand. You can slide. Wait, like on the ground? You could slide in three. Like on the ground, man. You can slide.
Starting point is 00:29:55 You could slide in three. But like, is it like, but I can run, right? Like I can still run forward, right? You can, but I can run right like I can still run forward right? You can but you can also slide but I don't I don't think you're getting it you can slide Oh my goodness guys. This is the greatest thing I've ever seen in a video game like I I'm not gonna rant on this now because we've already gone long But listen there is a rant inside of me that is brewing right now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Save it, save it and fester it. I'm going to fester it cause it's not ready yet, but I'm just letting people know, dude, that borderlands four. I have, I am sadly very, very disinterested in because I have seen nothing that has shown me that this, that this beloved franchise has evolved in any way possible, dude. And the recent things you have shown me have kind of already like just reinforced that you're not putting a lot of effort into this franchise.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And if you're not putting a lot of effort into it, then why am I supposed to be excited about it at that point? So am I supposed to be excited about it, you know, at that point? So am I on an island here? We're like, what do you guys think about this? Cause I think, I think you're right, Josh. This, this sort of feels like the, the most recent Captain America movie with, with Red Hulk a little bit where it's just like,
Starting point is 00:31:23 we could squeeze some more juice out of this lemon man. I know it's already like dismantled over there and we juiced it a hundred times, but there's probably a few more drops in there. Let's just give it another squeeze. But yeah, there's no innovation. I think that there's probably a certain number of diehard Borderlands fans out there, which I love it.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I love the art style. I'm cosplaying as a psycho from Borderlands at Fan Fusion. But yeah, it, nothing new, nothing new, nothing, nothing terribly exciting. I guess we'll have to see when it comes out. Well, how dare you, John, there is something new. You can slide and there's a grapple hook. And I know this is the first time we've seen that
Starting point is 00:31:59 in a video game, you know? So this is mind blowing tech, you know, but it's like, that's the problem, man. I know there's new vault hunters and they tried to make this. This is one of those trailers that I just kept going like, really guys, this is what you're showing me? Like, really? Is this the best you have to show? And they went, Oh, but we're pulling back on the toilet humor guys. And I went, okay. So yeah, so, so like, you know, like borderlands has always had humor. Well, we went a little too far with the toilet humor in three. So we're
Starting point is 00:32:31 pulling back on that and it's like, okay, but how is this game next gen? How is it different? How has it evolved? Well, you can slide in a world where grapple hooks and sliding didn't exist. Coming to you late this fall. I borderlands for I'm not sure. Listen, you drift. I love your hands. I love Borderlands. I've played every single Borderlands that has existed. I love playing with friends. I've had a blast. I'm just kind of starting to sour on this.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Like, let's just rehash everything we've always done and just slap a new number on it. And people will snatch it up, you know? And so I I'm starting to, you know, be the old man that's shaking my fist and going like, but I want something new, you know? And they're like, nah, dude, you're going to buy this anyway. And I'm like, it's, you're probably right.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It's hard to keep the core of something that was so innovative It's hard to keep the core of something that was so innovative and, and changed kind of gaming, but then re innovate as you progress, you know, with, with keeping what you were, I get it. But also, you know, it's almost like it is like lazy development, you know, and I'm not a developer, I don't know what it is, but it's, it's hard to say that. Once you get established and you're making your fourth version of a game, how innovative are you going to be? Like, hey, this has worked.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Let's do it again and do some, a couple new things, you know? Right. And this is exactly why, like for instance, the GTA six delay, I respect it, man. I mean, it could be that during play play testing they got a lot of this negative feedback We're like, hey guys, you know This this kind of feels like the same thing rinse recycle repeat here Like is there any innovation and they might have went like, you know rock star I think is a studio that operates with integrity and they might have went you know what we need a lot of work guys
Starting point is 00:34:21 This ain't it You know, I hope that's the case anyway All right, so that rant, I'm just going to let this do a little while, guys. Wait till we get closer to release. We get a couple more trailers, and then I'll Put it on low and let it sit there, baby. It's going to simmer, man.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Just hold it. Simmer. Just simmer away. All right. And then we're quickly running out of time on this. So we want to give a huge shout out to our good friends over at Warhorse Studios Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, which, you know, at the time of its release, we were saying, guys, this is absolutely a game of the year contender.
Starting point is 00:34:54 It absolutely is a game of the year contender. I think especially with GTA 6 getting delayed, I think that the game of the year is going to come down to Expedition 33 versus Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. What a showdown. I mean, you really can't lose either way, which I absolutely love. But you know, the news is, is that the game has been very successful. It has passed three million copies sold, which is incredible. Congratulations to our friends over at Warhorse Studios. You all put together a fantastic game. This is what happens when developers make a game with passion and love and make it for gamers
Starting point is 00:35:33 and take their time with it. And so kudos to all of you. We saw a thing too that said between Kingdom Come 1 and Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, it sold over like 10 million copies. And we're a little unsure if it's 13 million Kingdom Come 1 and Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, it sold over like 10 million copies and we're a little unsure if it's 13 million because we're not really sure if it was Kingdom Come 1 that sold 10 million and then Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 sold 3 million or if that's
Starting point is 00:35:55 combined with the way that they kind of worded it, it's a little iffy. But either way you look at it, what a success man. And honestly, if you haven't played Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 yet, you are missing out on easily one of the best games that we're probably gonna see in 2025. Like legitimately, we did a deep dive on that. We all had huge praise for it. It is a game that you absolutely should play.
Starting point is 00:36:18 It's incredible. So congratulations over there. Great group of guys too. Warhorse, great group of guys. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah, awesome Yep, and there might be rumors that we might try to follow up with those guys and talk to them I believe so talk to them about what it's like to have your game be a huge success, you know So we'll see about that
Starting point is 00:36:37 and then this is just a very quick rumor a a Hate get it out. Let it out. Come on. Get it out. It's like well this guy's a leaker a Let it out come on get it out. It's like well this guy's a leaker, but that just sounds weird and you know this known leaker You know a valve insider is is is the official title there But this guy that knows about valve and the goings-on of the company has come out and said hey guys Half-life 3 is playable end-to-end. Not only does the game exist, but it is playable from beginning to end. They're working on polishing it, but this game exists. Josh, your tin foil hat. It's tilting. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:37:20 I will believe it when I see it, guys. And you know, you talk about a game that better blow people away. Like, okay, GTA 6 Half-Life 3, side by side sitting in front of you guys, which one are you going for first? Oh, Half-Life 3. Me, Half-Life, yeah. Is that not the craziest thing in the world to say though? Because do you know how many millions of people are going GTA 6 guys?
Starting point is 00:37:48 Yeah But Half-Life 3 has been the unicorn that the gaming world has been looking for for 20 years now, man It's one of the best franchises ever GTA 6 as amazing as it will be maybe one of the games ever, how different will it be from GTA five? Like your gameplay, your missions, your all your stuff, it'll be a lot more similar than than Half Life three will be to Half Life two. So the the compare and contrast like it's it's all of it, man, just just to get like, I don't even want to I don't even know why we're talking about this, because it's all of it. Man, just to get like, I don't even wanna,
Starting point is 00:38:26 I don't even know why we're talking about this cause it's not gonna happen. It's not real life. I don't believe it until I see it. Yeah, until Half-Life 3 like is literally in my hands and I'm playing it, I'm not gonna believe it even if there's like demos. Cause then I'll be like, oh, nevermind.
Starting point is 00:38:37 So I just, it's one of those things that, I mean, we've been waiting 20 years for this game. Like, I want you guys to think about something real quick. What game has valve released that was bad? None. Yeah. None. I think, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Okay. I there. So valve owns steam, which is a great business for them. Why would they put themselves in a position to jeopardize their brand reputation with a game that isn't perfect with the reputation that they have? I agree, we may never see that game.
Starting point is 00:39:17 If it isn't perfect, I don't think we'll ever see it. And frankly, I prefer it that way. I mean, I agree. The worst thing that could ever happen is Half-Life 3 actually does come out and then it's a 7 out of 10. Yeah, and then... And then collapses into a black hole and you know, it's like that's it. Absolutely. And then they lose, you know, steaming followership, you know, it just opens up all sorts of possibilities.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I just think it's crazy because we all have the exact same answer. Half Life 3 for me as well. And I know that there's people that are gasping when we all said that, because they're like, but dude, GTA 6, you don't understand me. The grand majority of people, like GTA has kind of fallen into the zeitgeist, like Call of Duty or the TV games. Yeah, especially online. Casual, you know, like people who aren't gamers quote unquote play those games. Like, you know, we're dorks, we're middle-aged dorks. We go catch some heat for that.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Yeah, exactly. But, yeah. But I get what you're saying is that again, this is Half-Life 3 is the unicorn the gamers have been looking for, you know, for decades now. And if this game actually does exist and it is in a playable state start to finish, that is well beyond anything that anybody has expected because occasionally we get Half-Life 3 rumors that it exists, you know, but somebody saying that, no, man,
Starting point is 00:40:41 this game's actually playable is a completely different level of rumor at that point. Oh, I hope they shadow drop it. Oh my gosh. I hope they shadow drop it. Now I will be the sickest thing ever. This Valvansider said that he expects that they will announce it officially in the summer for a possible winter release. Is there a okay tin foil hat back on guys. Is there a world where Rockstar got
Starting point is 00:41:08 wind that Half-Life 3 is going to release later this year? And they went, we're delaying to 2026. We'll take the extra time anyway, but we are not going up against Half-Life 3, dude. Like, what game exists in the world or in our imaginations that no other game would possibly be willing to go up against? It's the biggest release ever, ever. Half-Life 3 is the biggest release all time, for sure. Like, Witcher 4? No, Half-Life 3 is still bigger. GTA 6?
Starting point is 00:41:40 Red Dead 3? Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, take the most epic franchises that have ever existed and say which one would bow down to the others to like avoid a simultaneous release. And I don't know that I could think of a game. You expect those though. You expect those. You expect Red Dead 3. You expect GTA 6. Half-Life 3 we've been waiting 20 years for. So we never expect it to come. And if it does, biggest release of all time. Like that's what it's gonna be. I think that this, we're talking about two totally different things. This is like Oppenheimer versus like the Avengers. You know what I mean? Like the Avengers are designed to be blockbusters. Everybody, whether you're a comic book fan or not,
Starting point is 00:42:27 like is gonna go see an Avengers movie and there's extremely high expectations for it. Half-Life is more of that like curated, you know, more niche sort of title. Going for the- Niche? Going for the- Did you just call Half-Life niche?
Starting point is 00:42:44 Bro, hold on. There's nothing to hear. What do you mean? Compare the sales numbers, Ryan, compare the sales numbers. What did half life to sell compared to GTA five? Tell me that's like 20 years difference. What do you mean? The amount of people in the amount of games sold within that timeframe are substantially different? There's no comparison with the money that rockstar has made in its games versus which game is more highly rated. That'd be a good question.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Well, yeah. And I would say half like, you know, just like probably Oppenheimer is a more critically acclaimed movie than Avengers end game, you know, but there's, there's a difference there. One is what GTI, GTA by its nature being a game that is violence heavy set in current day has a broad appeal. Like everybody plays the GTA games. Half-life it's, it's sci-fi, it's niche. It's, it's very, you you know it occupies kind of a weird
Starting point is 00:43:47 spot it's not niche in the way that like You know like we're animal is half-life is the godfather dude It is the game that all other games like adapted from guys All right, so metacritic you want to know what half-life's readiness? Yeah, 96 percent. Uh-huh 96 on Metacritic you want to know what GTA's is? 97 Dang it. Yeah, I mean listen, this is a great problem to have
Starting point is 00:44:28 I just wanted to put my tin foil hat on for a second and be like would rockstar actually dodge a Half-Life 3 release Like guys guys Grand Theft Auto 5 has sold 210 million copies. That's ridiculous Rockstar isn't afraid of, I mean, that's it would have to take something very special. Like I can't like Half-Life 3. Half-Life 3 probably, you know, I don't have the numbers available to me, but Half-Life has been out quite a bit longer than GTA 5 has also. But I'm willing to bet that GTA or that Half-Life 2 probably sold Also, but I'm willing to bet that GTA or that's a half life to probably sold
Starting point is 00:45:12 20% of that half life to 29 million copies as of one year ago. Yeah, so so 15% of that. Yeah Yeah Yeah J rock star ain't a friend. I don't like this Good that's gonna do it for this episode everybody Thank you for joining us. We're just ending this right here. So until next time, happy gaming. Half life forever.
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