Video Gamers Podcast - GOAT of Every Genre – Gaming Podcast

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

Gaming hosts Josh, Ryan and Ace are drafting the best game from every genre on our list—from Survival Crafting and Action RPG to Roguelike and more. Which titles truly deserve the crown in gaming history? The crew debate legendary picks, surprising choices, and the video games that defined entire genres. Expect nostalgia and plenty of passion on what makes these video games stand above the rest. If you love discovering all-time gaming greats, this is an episode you won’t want to miss from the Video Gamers Podcast!   Thanks to our MYTHIC Supporters: Redletter, Disratory, Ol’ Jake, Gaius, Jigglepuf, Phelps and NorwegianGreaser, and Dettmarp   Thanks to our Legendary Supporters: HypnoticPyro, PeopleWonder, Bobby S.   Connect with the show: Support us on Patreon: ⁠patreon.com/videogamerspod⁠ Join our Gaming Community: https://discord.gg/h2cHKAvSmu Follow us on Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/videogamerspod/⁠  Follow us on X:⁠ https://twitter.com/VideoGamersPod⁠  Subscribe to us on YouTube:⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@VideoGamersPod?sub_confirmation=1⁠    Visit us on the web:⁠https://videogamerspod.com/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Fellow gamers and welcome to the Video Gamers podcast. One of the best parts of gaming is the staggering amount of genres of games that we get to play. We've all got our favorites from role-playing games to first-person shooters to roglights and everything in between. But have you ever tried to single out the best game in a genre? What is the absolute pinnacle for each one? It's an impossible question, but it's one we're answering on this very episode. Before we get to our picks, some introductions are in order. I am your host, Josh, and joining me, he's the cream of the crop, the tip of the top. He's the shining example of being a troll. It's Ryan. I wondered where that was going.

I knew I had to go somewhere. He's not going to say this. Do you deny it? Do you deny it, Ryan? You know what? I'll take it. I love trolling, man. I love it. Yeah, this is why we get along so well. You and I are basically trolls. And then poor ace is the bros. The bruce is the bros. of our trollingness, man. Ais is just out there trying to just live life, have a good time. And then Ryan and I are just trolling all the time. And, you know, poor Ace. Insert every twig episode.

Sometimes Ace gets to be a part of the troll too, like when we got you on the live stream. And then, you know, he knew, he knew that was coming. So I think he, I think he enjoys it too. All right. And joining us, he reigns over the indie kingdom with an iron fist and a stern scowl. Oh, wait, that's just his normal face. It's Ace. I don't think I've ever scowled in my life. Thank you. I'm all

smiles. I don't think you have. All giggles. It rhymed. It rhymed, Ace and face. So I had I know, I was trying to be a little clever there. No, I got it. You just like, what I don't scowl? Also, an example of you trolling someone and it coming back on me is when you challenge that Genji to a 1v1 and he solo alted me. Oh, that was amazing, dude. Oh, my goodness. This was in Overwatch. I don't think Ryan was there with him. No, he wasn't. But I was playing Lifeweaver, so I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a healer basically. And this Genji kept diving us, but every time he'd dive, I would just

turn and start trying to DPS him. And I was like, I think I can take this guy. So I called out in match. I said, 1V1 me, Genji. And he answered, he's like, where are you at, bro? And then he shows up, and he also and solo old's ace instead of me. and Ace is like Bro, you got me solo halted and I was like, yes, this is the best. Love it.

Dove right past the tank, right past the DPS. Oh, he went past everybody. Everyone. Straight to you. Straight to me. Oh, it was great. I hate how sweet Overwatch is. I want to hate it, but I like love that game so much.

It's so good. There's a reason I play almost freaking every day, man. Oh, the nasty chains I pulled off last night are enough for me to keep playing. Dude, I, those, yeah. You made highlights of those, but that was amazing to witness twice, no less. And then the guy that was at the receiving end of it was a really good sport because he was laughing and he was like, that's never happened. Yeah. So, guys, I don't know why we are such masochists and we punish ourselves like we're going to do on this episode.

We do it for the enjoyment of the listeners, which makes me think that the listeners are also like enjoy watching us suffer. Probably so. because this episode look it is darn near impossible I mean darn near impossible

to say the best of the best game in a specific genre and yet that's what we're going to do today

and I am looking at my list right now and I am waffling back and forth like I mean like you couldn't believe so the one caveat that we did

or at least I did I think Ace did I'm not sure with Ryan, is I definitely nominated like a runner up to just be able to say like, I need to mention this game too. I need to mention this game too. So we're going to get to naming these categories. We have six categories actually that we came up with. And then the game that is the absolute pinnacle. The pinnacle game.

This isn't personal favorites. This is, well, I mean, it might be personal favorites. Let's be honest. but it's going to be the game that we think individually is the pinnacle game for that genre. And my goodness, we're going to take some heat for these. Oh, yeah, we are. So, Ryan, before we get to the parts that anger everybody, because they're going to disagree with a lot of these, why do we do something where people actually like us?

And let's read a review. We are going to get for us. Yeah, let's read a review. This one comes in. It's a five-star review titled Love the Podcasts from All right. Ollie 1W. We had a little disagreement on this. One W, I think is

part of Ollie's handle. Yes. Yeah, it is. Per Ace and Josh. The review reads, I am a youngan, so I don't get to listen to most video game podcasts.

So this was a breath of fresh air. When I listened to this podcast, also, Ace, I'm glad I don't have as bad of diet as you. but I do love Little Caesars Ace

changing the the next generation like bro you got called out by a youngster they took one look at me I was like that's what Little Caesars does

to a person you said it we didn't you said it we didn't oh OLLI W way to throw some shade well done

and thank you for the five-star review as well. Listen, if you have been listening to this podcast, or maybe this is your first episode, number one, welcome in. Number two, we're sorry for the games that we're about to pick for these categories. Number three, we hope you come back for more episodes.

But if you haven't left us a review, please leave us a review. They help other gamers. They help the show. It really is super, super valuable. So if you haven't left one, write us a review on Apple. If you're on Spotify, rate us five stars.

and there's a good chance that we'll read your review in the future on the show like we just did for Ollie 1W. Guys, I don't know if I'm ready for this or not, but I guess we have to. Here comes the suffering. We have to do this. Ace, why don't you tell people the categories or the genres that we decided on? We tried to mix this up a little bit. We didn't want just, you know, the easy. Yeah, we want kind of a variety of genres.

So we went with survival crafting. The roguelike genre, of course. Action RPG, story slash narrative driven, co-op game, and a multiplayer FPS. All right. Marathon! No, I'm just kidding. Now, you can't be picking Marathon.

I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I really like Marathon, but it's definitely not the number one. Off the pod. He's gone. Out. He's out. To clarify, these are our personal

number one games for each of these genres. And I love survival crafting games, guys. Like I, I just got done talking about the demo for Windrose, which I think, I think Windrose is going to be fantastic, dude. I legitimately think that's going to be an awesome survival crafting game. People know I love like Subnautica. It's the game that got me into survival crafting and made me realize I love the genre. So like a genre that I absolutely love,

trying to name the best game. That's hard. This has got to be so hard for you, dude. It's like trying to pick between your kids, man. Like, honestly, it's kind of like going like, I love this game. Wait, but I love this game. Okay, well, which game do I love more? How honest is that, though?

Like, I feel like everyone says, oh, it's like trying to pick between your kids, but in your brain you're like, I got a favorite kid. No, pick between your kids? No, it's none of them. That's the answer is none of them. None of them? Okay, because I was like, Ryan, where are you going with this? It's none of them. They're both.

with a bunch of little turds. That's what that's what it is. Oh man. Well, I mean, let's just get to it, guys. Do it. Let's hear it. Come on. Let's just start with survival crafting. Let's start with the big one. Just because it's at the top. Come on. I have, this is a, this is tough for me. I'm just going to start this off because I love this genre. I love Subnotica so much. But I'm not sure that subnotica is the pinnacle of survival crafting games. Like we're talking about the very, very best game in a genre. This one is going to be a little bit divisive for people because there are a lot of people that hate this game, myself included.

I got to say, guys, I got to say as much as it infuriates me and I have not played it in a while and sometimes when I play it, I love it and then I hate it. but I do think that Rust is the absolute pinnacle of survival. I saw that coming. I knew it. I think a lot of people thought I was going to say Subnotica. And again, these are not like games that resonate and you love. These are the games that we think are the absolute best of the best for that genre.

And as much as I personally love Subnotica and I would recommend Subnotica like way more often than I would recommend Rust to people. Like I think Rust is actually the pinnacle of this genre. That's fair enough. I think that's a fair statement. So Subnotica is your runner up. Subnotica is my runner up. Yeah.

I think like subna. Look, if you're going to branch into this genre, do not start with rust. You don't want to do not start with rust. You'll leave the genre very quickly. Yeah. Subnotica is beautiful. It's chill.

It's awesome. Well, it's easy to get into. Parts of it or chill. Parts of it. Parts of bitter chill. Yeah, all right. That's fair. If you've got a fear of the ocean,

maybe don't start with Somnodicky. either. Yeah. If you want to despise humanity, Rust is the game for you. But honestly, if you want the absolute apex of survival crafting, Rust offers everything I could want in this genre. And then it has the element of PVP to really just drive everything else home. But I don't know that there's another game like Rust.

Like, I thought about Enshrouded. I thought about Valheim. Like in this list, like there are some really good ones. But I don't think they hold a candle to what Rust actually. is. All right. What about you, Ryan? Where do you land with survival?

Oh, brother. So with this, I absolutely, as as much as I love Sonnetica and as much as I loved Rust, like there was one other game that stood above for me that I always found myself wanting to play and I felt

just had all the mechanics and everything I'd love to play in a survival crafting game. And so those are my runner-ups. But I'm going to to go with don't starve. Oh, okay. So I know this is a little.

That's a really good one. This is a little. All right. Coming out of left field with one. I thought you were going to say pal world. No, no, no,

I actually thought for a minute you were going to say power. Oh my God. That game puts the survival into survival craft. This is a little deep cut. Yeah, this definitely puts, um,

I, I mean, I have put a lot of hours into don't starve. I've put a lot of hours and don't starve two together or whatever, um, with my daughter. Um, it is just a really,

like, unique, cool survival game where you have to, it's ruthless, man. This game does not pull any punches. It is devastating. If you do not do the right things and you make one mistake, you can get run down by some pig or some whatever and like you're dead. You don't have a fire, you know, when it turns night and you don't have a torch, you're toast, you're dead and then you're done.

Like, so this is one that I just discovered way before. the pod and I fell in love with it. So yeah, for survival crafting, this is the one that really resonated with me the most. Yeah, that's not bad at all, man. It's a rogue-like. Yeah.

It mixes the genres. It does. So this is a rogue-like survival crafting game. Is it? I despise don't starve. Unless don't starve, that's different than don't starve together? It's randomly generated, but it's not a rogue-like.

I would. classified. But when you die, you're just done, you start all over again. Yes, everything's wiped, though. There's no permanent progression. It's like rust. So it's a all gone. It's a true rogue like, not a rogue light. I guess, yeah.

Yeah. I just consider that a survival game. Yeah, it's just, look at Josh trying to get all of like, like, well, you can die and like rust, and then you just respawn at your base, and subnotica, you just respawn at your base. And so most survival crafting games, if you die, you just

respawn. No, you might have to go run and get your gear. Yeah, you say I got to do it. So a lot of them they make you go back and get your corpse. Corpse Run. Yeah, corpse runs. I actually like corpse runs. I know that's weird, but I like that.

That is a very strange thing to want to go back to your corpse. I can get it. I know. It is weird. So, all right, Ace, what about you? Survival crafting, the absolute pinnacle of this genre for you. Just so we don't get tared and feathered. We'll put Minecraft out there.

Minecraft is probably the best starter for getting into this genre. I'm so glad you said starter game. Starter. Starter. Yeah. It is the most user-friendly and easy to understand despite previous attempts. But for my runner-up, I would say Terraria is up there for me as a fantastic survival crafting game. But if I had to pick what I consider the most enjoyable use of the survival crafting genre, it's grounded.

I really, really like grounded. Dude, grounded is high on my list, dude. It's high on my list. It's just so much fun. and it's got so much depth to the combat and the armor and all the sort of things you can do. It's just such a good time. And Grounded 2 is even better.

You're just playing Honey and I Shrunk the kids. Yeah, and it's fun. Yeah, but it's so good, dude. It's so fun. It's got everything you want. When Grounded 2, when Grounded 2 fully releases, I absolutely want the 3 of us to just go deep into it, dude. We're going back.

We're going back. Yeah. Honestly, the only reason we stopped is it was early access, and I wanted to experience, like, the full game without burning out on the early access part, but yeah, grounded. Yeah, that's fair. That's 100% fair. All right. We got to, we're going to have to speed up a little bit because I know we love talking about these games, but we've only gotten one down so far.

So, all right, next up, we're going to, we're just going to, we're going to lump this because I know there's the people that love the say, well, rogue likes and rogue lights are different, but we're just going to say the rogue like category. If you want to be nitpicky about that, that's on you. Um, Ryan, let's start with you on this one. What game, is the absolute pinnacle number one game for the roguelike genre. I really don't think there's any other choice for this. It is a recent game, and I'm sure that probably gives you guys a clue, and I see Ace Don in his head here.

I think we probably all have the same answer. Hades two. Hades two. That's the one. It's the game, man. What are you going to? We're going to, there's, there's, we like, you know, for, for entertainment purposes and podcasts and all these things, you want to have differences and not everybody agreeing and things like that. But for this one, dude, hey, these two. I think we're all going to be on the same page. It is, it is, it is utter perfection. It is something that can play on all platforms. It is just so, dang, good, man. It is, it is, it is just utterly amazing. It is, is one of the best games I've ever played. It may, crack into that top 10 if I keep playing it.

It's on my top 10. Yeah, it's, I know it's on yours ace, but, uh, yeah, Hades 2 for sure. Yeah. I would also say, uh, Hades 2 for sure, but also honorable mention to games like Slay the Spire and, uh, that's my, that's my runner up. That's your runner up as well. Yeah. And of course, like binding

of Isaac and enter the gungeon also kind of solidified the genre. And Risk of Ray 2. Risk of rate too. We had a lot of fun with risk of rate two is a fantastic. No, no, no qualms about it. Like, no, we're not besmirching, you know, risk of rain too, but like, uh, but yeah, Hades, Hades 2 is a big time. Yeah.

That's the pinnacle. Like, honestly, that's the point of this episode is to say, what is the greatest game in this genre? And Hades 2 is hard to argue against, dude. It's, it's quite possibly a perfect game. Like, honestly, like, I think that's what we said when we covered it was like, I could not find flaws in Hades 2. And that is a super weird thing.

Yeah, what could you say they could improve on? There's nothing you could have done to make it a better game. Really? I mean, yeah. I don't know. Hopefully our console friends get it this year. Yeah, that's good. I mean, there's going to be a lot of happy people out there, man.

A lot of happy. And you know what's the other thing real quick before we go to break? I love seeing people experiencing Hades for the first time. I think it's Beech in our server that's like he started playing Hades and then he was just like, oh my gosh, guys. Like this game's fantastic. And we were all like, yep, yep, it really is. Well, Hades 2 is on Switch.

Yeah, it's only Switch and PC. though. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, which is weird. That's a weird combo right there, unless Nintendo paid for that. So, all right, listen, we're going to take a quick break and then we're going to come back. And this, this might be the hardest category out of all of them for me. And we're going to talk about the action RPG, man. All right, we'll be right back. All right, guys, this one is, this was the one I really, really struggled with. The action RPG. My goodness, this might be one of the ones.

my favorite genres. Ryan, I think this is your favorite genre. I would say overall it's my favorite genre. Overall? Yeah. Um, Ace, let's start with you on this one. Okay. My runner up for this one, both of mine come from the same company, so that's great. But my runner up for this one was Bloodbourne. I think Bloodborn is an

amazing action RPG. I thought you might be mentioning Bloodborn. Oh, absolutely. Any chance I get to mention Bloodborn, I will, especially after they murdered the remake before my very eyes. Oh. And then my absolute pick for this is Eldon Ring. Eldon Ring is the ultimate

action RPG. There is no game in the world like Eldon Ring. I say that with 100% confidence. I mean, literally, there is no game in the world that is like Eldon Ring. And I think people get scared off because

they go, oh, it's really hard. There's not another game out there like it. Honestly, I can't think of anything. You will lose your life to Eldon Ring. You will, but in the most glorious way imagine. And your sanity. A little bit.

A little bit. It can definitely make you rage. That's for sure. A little bit. So this is the one Eldon Ring and then the game I'm about to mention. I literally went back and forth on. And for a minute I had Eldon Ring first. And then I went, I feel like I'm not being 100% true to myself.

I have God of War 2018. That's right. But my goodness, if they are not like, we're talking. 51% to 49% in this category. I think for me, God of War epitomizes everything I want in a video game. So does Eldon Ring. Like I said, this was the biggest struggle for me. I'm going to go with God of War. It is my favorite game of all time. It has everything I want in a video game. I've said this before. I feel like this God of War was custom made for me with the action, the combat, the characters, the visuals, the audio, like literally everything. It's a perfect game.

for what Josh likes to do in video gaming. But, yeah, Eldon Ring wound up with as my runner up. So Ryan, Mr. Action RPG. I wonder if it's the one I'm thinking of for you. I have a feeling you guys aren't going to, well. See, the thing is, there's a few there. For sure. Like, obviously.

Yeah, that's the problem with the essence. There's a large genre. Like God of War 2018, absolutely far and away is top two, top three. It makes the list. It makes the list. It is right up there. They're all within like a smidgen. You know, it's like, it's not the difference within the game.

It's just difference within personal preference. You know, what do you prefer more within, you know, your gameplay? Because they're all absolutely amazing. but between that, obviously you guys like Eldon Ring. I have not played Eldon Ring, so that's not on my list as of yet. Another one, Diablo 2. That is, oh, Josh is on mute. Yep, he was.

He was. Josh on mute! Yes! Dude, I was coughing. What are you talking about? Yes. Oh my gosh. You want me to call?

Okay. Dude. Yeah. No. Okay. Josh is on mute. I thought Diablo 2 was the one. Diablo 2 is the one that you were going.

For sure. What I'm going to go with is Elder Scrolls Skyrim. That is, that is, that is my ultimate. That is my ultimate as, as hard as it is for my Diablo 2 fans. And it's one of my favorite games of all time. Skyroom was just something different. It was one of those that I could just, I mean, equally so Diablo 2, but like Skyrim, I could just go back to over and over and over.

replay always discover something new always find a different world a different interaction a different you know mod that i could put in you know then once the moders started you could start doing the mods and then the dlc and so there was just so much there so i'm going to go with uh skyrum for mine but man diablo and god a war diablo and god a war like they're like right there they're just behind it skyrim's on point for you and honestly i could see a lot of people name gaming Skyrim as that because it's it really is everything you could want out of like an action RPG we're going uh what is it 2026 we're going to bejillion years 2011 is when skyroom came out.

Ooh freaking Bethes isn't that insane? Bethesda. I'm not sure I love Bethesda anymore. Yeah me neither. All right. Well, there you go. God of War 2018. You've got Eldon Ring and you've got Skyrim. Guys, those are banger games. That's that's a tough. Watch all timers for sure. Yeah. All right. Story or narrative?

Now, I want to be clear on this one. This does not mean that it's low gameplay. We're not talking like, we're not restricting this to like it has to be Firewatch or like what remains of Edith Fitch. This is just a game where the narrative or the story is the driving force. I kind of feel like I know Ryan's on this one. What? I know. Ryan, go ahead and just say it.

We don't need to talk about it for a long time. But just say it. I have a plan Yeah Yeah Red Dev Redemption 2 It is It is

Unequivocally The greatest game ever created It is It is Absolutely Story and narrative driven Watching Arthur

Kind of traverse this world He's like 35 in this game He's younger than us Josh He looks so old He's lucky to be alive back then.

Younger than current Leon Kennedy. Yeah, dude. And he, and just like, man, what a, what a world to live in and, and, um,

the story you get to see. And all of the different, the biggest thing for me with this game is, aside from the main base story is, all the side stories, all the different narratives, all the different characters. You can find out all these different things.

You know, you could, you go and find a guy that was like making a Tesla tower. When did we cut them off, face. Yeah. Like, oh, yeah, it would be a while. Yeah,

I know. Yeah, I'm going to go on for hours. What was your runner up, Ryan? Basically, what was your runner up? There is not a runner up. There's no runner up for this category? This is the only one. This is the 1A.

1A, 1B, 1C, 1D. That's enough from Ryan. Ace. What do you have? What do you have for this one? Believe it or not, my runner up for this was Disco Elysium. I think the story of Discoleason is the driving force. It's what makes you interested in the game.

But at partial recency bias, I picked Clear Obscure Expedition 33. It's my runner up. That's actually my runner up. The story was what kept me going. That's your runner up. Expedition 33, it was actually, and I'm trying to do the same as Ace

balance recency bias on this, but I don't know that there's a story in gaming that I really loved more than like the whole thing with the painters and the way that the game gives you pieces but then confuses you. and you're like, wait, I feel a little lost and then reveals something

that kind of pieces it back together and then you think you know what's going on and you're like, oh, okay. And then the game switches it up again and then you're like, wait, I don't know what's going on. And then it ties everything together at the end to where it's just this like, you need to go to the internet

or somebody and talk about it because it's so mind-blowing. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I'm with you on that, Ace. What's your runner up? Oh, runner up for me?

I said it was Disco Elysium. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got so sidetracked with Expedition 33. You got so excited. Disco Elysium story is, I think, I mean, people think disco Elysium and it's very well regarded, but I think people forget, like, how in depth, like, the characters and the experiences

and, like, what's going on in that story, like, comes into play. It's massively good. I don't want Joe. Who, no. Who told him, James? I knew it. I did it again.

My winner on this one, this is another struggle because, you know, Red Dead Redemption 2 instantly comes to mind. Expedition 33 came to mind instantly for me. I am actually going to give this to the Witcher 3. That's a good one. There is something about the world of Witcher 3.

There is something about the characters and the, like, this world is so fleshed out and the wars that are going on between like Novogra. and Skelliga and all these other factions and like countries almost that it's like playing Game of Thrones. Like honestly it's that good.

You know, and it's a lot of time. So the stories are incredible, dude. And so for a story narrative game, I think Witcher 3 just did it all. Not enough incest. Not enough incest for me.

All right, guys. What might be the easiest category for me to pick one, co-op game? All right. I'm just going to throw my answer out. I went Portal 2. I don't know that there's a better game than Portal 2 for a co-op game. Yeah, that's the easy one for sure.

I had Portal 2, but I also, I think Lethal Company is a really great co-op game. Just playing that with a friend. That's fair. Absolutely accentuates that game. And I still really enjoy Lethal Company. Oh, look. Loot. Yeah.

Boom. Yeah, just boom. Our classic video. I love that video. That's an interesting pick, Ace. It's weird because it's such a janky game, but it's such a fun game at the same time. But that co-op nature of like running around

and then trying to get out together. Yeah, it's team-based. It's a lot of fun. I enjoy it. Well, the thing is though, at the end of the day, like, what are you looking to do? You're looking to have fun.

Like, whether it's crazy or janky or whatever, you know, it's immaterial. Like, if you had a really good time, then that's what matters, you know? And you always have a good time on lethal company. Oh, every time. Every time we have a blast. Especially when your buddies.

Was portal two your answer? And then lethal company? Yeah, lethal is my runner. I think Portal 2 is still the definitive co-op game, but Lethal Company is my runner-up for sure. Ryan, what's your answer on this one? So I definitely had Portal 2 up there for me, but I am going to go with one because this was a personal co-op game for me and one I loved and one that I've talked about

a million, billion, zillion times. Diablo 2? Yeah. I knew we weren't going to get through. this without Ryan mentioned. He was going to get Diablo 2 in one of these categories. It was going to be under co-op game. That's a it's a semantics. It's co-op. It's co-op. I can't argue with him about it, which is killing me. But I'm like, I don't think this was like the goal of the co-op category, Ryan.

Hey, listen, bro, I take with what I'm given, I take the topics and I create you magic. And this is what we got. I can't believe you named Diablo 2 in the co-op category. And I hate it because it's like you're kind of right in a dumb way. He kind of wins. I played hundreds of millions of matches, like with people co-op in like the 90s, like late 90s, early 2000s. So yeah, it's co-op. Runner up for me, split fiction. You name a co-op game that's just so well done.

It's so good, dude. It's like I very, very rarely ever replay games, but I've been trying to convince my. daughter to play through split fiction with me. And so far, she's like, no, let's just play Overwatch. And I'm like, come on, man. Of course, I'm going to say yes to that. But like, I really think it'd be fun to play split fiction with her as well. So I got to finish that one. All right. Last one, boys. And this is the one that we're probably going to catch some

steam or some flack over because, man, people love their multiplayer first person shooters. Ace, let's start with you on this one. This is not your, like, preferred genre, but I feel like you really love two games in the genre. So I'm very curious. I guess so, well,

I'll just go ahead and give mine right now, which semantics once again, it's Overwatch. No, that's absolutely a multiplayer first person shooter. That's the, like, this whole category would be like,

this is how Josh felt about Diablo. Yep. Yeah. He's so tilted. He's so tilted. He's so. I know it's a T-player first-person shooter. You want to limit it to, let me guess,

you want to limit it to Counterstrike and an Unreal Tournament and Quake, right? And it's like, no, dude, like, how else would you define? Somebody's going to be like, that's a hero shooter, which is a multi- that's a hero shooter. Runner up, Abyssus. I want to make sure of something. Uh-huh. Because I just want to, I want this for the record.

You are picking Overwatch over Marvel rival. It says first person. No. Well, FPS. Yeah, FPS. Who is this guy? Who's hosting this show? Who's this guy?

Who's this guy? The first person view. No, no, no. You're trying to go all over. Oh, he just, we just messed up his, his list. Josh. It's in the name, bud. What does your list have, Josh?

Yeah, third, third? No, I have Overwatch. Overwatch is my number one. Okay, so you have Overwatch as well. legitimately, but my runner-up might not be a, like... This is, are we really doing some magic? Yes, this is guys. First-

shot shooter. Do you know how many I passed on because it was not a co-op game? Okay, and we're not saying that it has to be the first-person perspective. That's what FPS means. That's what FPS. That's FPS. F-PS. First-person shooter. I hate you both so much right now.

That's why I picked the Overwatch over Marvel Rifle. It's the end. It's the NFL. Oh, oh, we were talking about the national football league. Oh, we have to be. Oh, okay. Come on now. Come on. Come on. Well, I guess I can't use my runner up of Remnant 2 now since that's a third person. It's in third person. Get out of scrub with that nonsense. Who needs runner ups anyway. I did pick overwatch, though, because it is. Did you really? It is the pinnacle of the genre. Sorry all our counterstrike bros and all that. But like, but like that's, I mean, I guess here, that's, this is where the funny thing is like, yes, it's a first. person shooter, but it's not really a first person shooter, you know? I don't know.

Emory plays exactly. No, come on. You guys can accept that. Come on. I can't accept that. No. It's dumb. It's a first person.

It's a multiplayer first person shooter. Ace did the whole like, boom Marvel rivals is a third person. It is a third person. Nobody has ever used the acronym TPS. Okay. That's a report from the office. It's my favorite TPS. Space.

Also is your favorite TPS. Give your TPS reports for me. Yeah, exactly. You dorks. Is it my turn now? What's the best multiplayer third person shooter? Is it my turn now to give a real game?

What's the best multiplayer? Can I give a real game now? Probably hell divers. No, no. Can I give a real game now? That's third person. Yeah, what's your? Real game?

All right. You guys want a real, genuine, authentic first person shooter that Diablo 2 with mods. Hello Kitty Island Adventure. Chiavla too with Mons Lainey Bowl Lainey Bowl

That would be really fun That would be actually pretty cool Blizzard Somebody make that Blizzard you better credit us No my my My selection is the one The only

Halo 3 Yeah That's fair It is That is a multi-player It is That is far away It is

The best first person shooter Ever to have been made It is, it is, it is old. It is definitely dated, but the game itself is, is far and away the best first person shooter ever made. If we didn't have the multiplayer caveat, I would have picked Bioshock. For, oh, except that for single player? Yeah, for single player. You know, we could do that in a future episode.

Yeah, we've ruined your picks. Well, whatever. Nobody heard that. Back to Ryan Diablo two. Anyways, let's go back to how sweet Halo 3 is. Halo 3 is amazing. Halo's incredible, dude. Yeah, you just, you can't go wrong with that one.

The amount of time I put into that game. Do you think we'll ever see another Halo game? No. Not of quality. Uh-uh. That's why they went to Marathon. Like, they switched it up. I mean, Marathon.

Well, there's like Halo Studios now, though. But aren't they, like, didn't they just announce that they're shutting down, like, any further development on Halo Infinite? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Right? They're done with Halo Infinite for sure. I don't know what's going to happen to the rest of the franchise. I like, make something great.

Halo TV shows Season 2, baby. Oh, gosh. No. I actually liked Halo Infinite. It wasn't like the Halo of old. New casting, Bella Ramsey.

As Master Chief. As Master Chief. That's it. We're getting this episode is just dumb now. Pedro Pascal is Cortana. First person shooter, not third person shooter. Diablo 2 is a co-op game. Listen, just because I live within the borders

of the rules does not mean anything, okay? All right. At least we all picked Portal 2, you know, as the rightful king of the co-op game genre. And Hades, too, is the rightful Rogelike King. All right. So let's, I'm just, let's go down our list very quickly here. So survival crafting, I had Rust, Roguelike, all of us had Hades 2. Action RPG, I had God of War 2018. For story, narrative-based game, I have The Witcher 3, co-op game, Portal 2, and multiplayer first person shooter. I have Overwatch. Ace, what are yours?

Survival crafting, I had grounded. We all had Hades 2 as a rogue lake. Action RPG. I went with Eldon Ring. Story narrative. I went with Clear Expedition 33. Co-op, we all went with Portal 2. And like you, for my multiplayer first person shooter, I picked Overwatch.

Okay. Ryan? Survival crafting. Let's hear your dumb list. I went out. My list is stellar. And I would like all of the listeners. Do you have Diablo 2 on your list front?

Let us know, chat, uh, comments, anything you want. Let us know who won. Uh, survival crafting, don't starve. Uh, Rogue like,

Hades 2, action RPG, Skyrum, one of the best games ever made. Story narrative, the best game ever made Red Dead Redemption 2. Co-op game,

Diablo 2, and multiplayer FPS, Halo 3. My list is superb. He means Overwatch. It's a good list. Except for you're stupid. Yeah,

you need to play more overall. with us. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You're telling me right now that Overwatch is better than Halo 3. As a multiplayer first person shooter, yes. What? Are you kidding me? No. You're wild. You're wild. See, here's the problem. I view Halo as more of like the campaign. And yes, the multiplayer was amazing. No, I'm not saying it wasn't amazing. I'm not saying it wasn't amazing. I'm just saying that when I think multiplayer first person shooter, I don't think, like, Halo is not the one that comes to mind. I mean, it's a defibrillator. I can't breathe. Yeah.

You have no, you have no authority. You have Diablo too is your co-op game, Ryan. It's a co-op game. You can go. Oh, my gosh. All right. Listen, everybody. We want to know what your picks are for these categories.

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