Video Gamers Podcast - Grumpy Gamers! -Gaming Podcast

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

Gaming hosts Josh, Ryan and Ace are putting on their grumpy gamer hats for this episode of the Video Gamers Podcast! From broken launches and overpriced DLC to endless live service updates and unfinis...hed releases, the guys are venting about everything that drives them crazy in the gaming world. Is modern gaming losing its soul, or are we just becoming those “back in my day” gamers? We break down the biggest frustrations in video games today, what trends we wish would stop, and why some classics still do it better. If you ever rage-quit video games or rolled your eyes at yet another battle pass, this is one video game packed episode you don’t want to miss from the Video Gamers Podcast!   Thanks to our MYTHIC Supporters: Redletter, Disratory, Ol’ Jake, Gaius, Jigglepuf and Phelps   Thanks to our Legendary Supporters: HypnoticPyro, Patrick, NorwegianGreaser and PeopleWonder   Connect with the show: Support us on Patreon: ⁠patreon.com/videogamerspod⁠ Join our Gaming Community: ⁠https://discord.com/invite/Dsx2rgEEbz⁠ Follow us on Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/videogamerspod/⁠  Follow us on X:⁠ https://twitter.com/VideoGamersPod⁠  Subscribe to us on YouTube:⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@VideoGamersPod?sub_confirmation=1⁠    Visit us on the web:⁠https://videogamerspod.com/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:54 might be one of the worst things in all of gaming, dude. It drives me crazy. it's the worst especially on like a second play through and it's a long cut scene and you're just like come on man let me let me just get through this already know what's going to happen I know what they're going to do but you're mashing the button
Starting point is 00:01:10 a thousand times still like just skip just trying to hit square or something just to get it through but what what makes me even more upset is escort missions dude like having to just drag some dumb AI that doesn't know what the heck they're doing through this level and just
Starting point is 00:01:25 watching them die over and over and then you die it's oh I hate it oh dude Escort mission is by the worst. We've talked to developers. They say they hate making them. They're hard to code. They're hard to develop for. No gamer likes an escort mission.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Like, why is this still the thing? Nobody. Nobody likes them. Looking at you Resident Evil for. Dude, escort mission is the absolute worst time wasters. But you know what? Waste your time more? Bosses that heal midway through the fight and send out waves of freaking enemies.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Drives me insane. The bosses are hard enough to give. Give them the ability to heal. And it's like you better interrupt the heal or have a way to deal with it. Because otherwise it's like, oh, I'm just full health. All that work for nothing. And then a lot of times to do it, they'll like, you know, send a wave of enemies. So then you lose more health, most likely.
Starting point is 00:02:13 And then they heal up and you're like, oh, come on, this is a bad trade. Yeah. Why are they allowed to heal? I'm the only one who should be allowed to heal. Guys, you know what I really hate, though, is when a podcast does, like, they don't even start with, like, the music that I'm used to. Hello, fellow gamers, and welcome to the video gamers podcast. Video games may be our favorite pastime, but it doesn't mean they don't do things that aggravate us, make us complain, and all around just go, what the heck, man? Well, if you haven't guessed on this episode, we're going over all the things that suck about.
Starting point is 00:02:59 video games, but first, some introductions are in order. I am your host, Josh, and I hate when people are always laid to everything. No, I didn't bring that up for any specific reason at all. It's Ryan. We've gone over this many times, my friend. Time is a man-made construct. Time is relative. So, you know, it's just one of those things.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Time is only relative to you, Brian. It's time is there for everybody else. Oh, wait, maybe I should re-ass this situation. And joining us, I hate when your friend tells you he's totally going to play this awesome new game with you when it comes out. But then you see, he's still playing Marvel rivals instead. It's Ace. I have no defense. I just suck.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Ace is like, I'm a terrible friend. I'm just a terrible friend. I know I said I was going to play Battlefield 6 with you guys. But I lie. Daredevil's cool, though. I'll say that. Wait, daredevil's in it now? Yeah, they put Daredevil in the game.
Starting point is 00:04:08 He is blind. I don't even have Marvel rivals installed anymore. I installed it a while ago. Yeah, I'm not surprised. Is your screen just blank? He is blind past 30 meters. Blind past 30? 30 meters?
Starting point is 00:04:22 That's 30 meters is a long way, man. He can see every character, though, through echo location. So they all appear for him. He can see them through walls. even invisible characters, but he can't actually see them. If you can see 30 meters, like, you're not near-sighted because, like, near-sighted is like this, you know, like, I need to, like, hold it further away to, like, read a book or something.
Starting point is 00:04:41 So he's just normal, basically. Sure. We'll just call him normal. Is it actually echolocation? Yeah, it's a, like, a super echolocation thing. I thought he just had really good hearing. No, he actually has some kind of, like, super mutant echo location thing. Does he click?
Starting point is 00:04:59 To, like, make it echo, don't you have to put out something to, like, return? You want me to explain it for the echo? I'm just trying to learn. Ryan's right on this one. Okay, look, look, because dolphins have echolocation, right? Like, you have to click. You have to make a sound. And then wait for the sound to bounce off of objects and come back to you.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Just like radar. Ace is looking it up. I am. Yeah, Ace is like, you know. So if Daredevil's not sending out, like, clicks or pulses, then he's not using echolocation. All it says is Daredevil doesn't see with his eyes, but rather a form of echolocation similar to a bat's sonar. Okay. Because of his super heightened senses.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yeah. They got this guy wrong. And you're excited about this? You passed up Battlefield 6 with the homies to go play Mr. I'm not blind Daredevil? No, I'm excited because they buffed Mr. Fantastic. But, you know, whatever. Okay. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:05:54 That's fair. Oh man. Well, listen, welcome in everybody. This episode is going to be so relatable to all of you out there. I mean, look, there are things in video games that drive us crazy. There are trends that irritate us. There are moments. You know, that kind of thing. We, you know, we hinted at a few in the intro for the show. But look, this is something that I feel like every gamer. in the world can relate to and man sometimes it's good to just get that off our chest man to just get it out there and then go like okay i feel better now but guys before we get into being grouchy we're pretty darn happy right now man because number one we have some new people to thank we have three new supporters of the show man listen we have put the call out there to everybody to say hey listen we need your support to keep this podcast going and y'all out there there have answered and it is amazing number one we're very humbled like we're just three dudes
Starting point is 00:07:00 that love games that talk into a microphone you know and just this is our passion but all of you out there that are helping to support that are truly making the difference and one way we like to say thank you is to say thank you on the show so a huge shout out to bed bunker who was there for our community night that we're going to chat about here in just a minute kevin fifer and Mickey for signing up for rare status to support the show. All three of you are awesome. Thank you. Superstars, all of you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Oh, man. And I love the fact that we have already played Battlefield 6 with a couple of them. And Kevin, I don't know your Discord name if you're in our Discord server, so I only went with what I had there. And then, guys, we had our first Battlefield 6 community night, you know, just this Saturday. We were super stoked for it. We had a little bit of technical hip-up hiccups with some server
Starting point is 00:07:58 issues where we couldn't get our own private server working, but we worked it out. But through the course of the night, we had over 40 gamers that played Battlefield 6 together, man. It was an absolute blast. And guys, one of the highlights of the night, long-time
Starting point is 00:08:14 supporter of the show, awesome, awesome guy. Norwegian Greaser drops into the Twitch. He's always there, you know, anytime we stream, and then drops a hundred gifted subs. So Norwegian Greaser, once again, our friend, you are incredible. Yeah. That was nuts. I don't know. I have to look and see if I can find it if it's still up on there. But I remember looking because I heard the noise and I look and then I double took and I was trying to walk out. Like,
Starting point is 00:08:45 does that say a hundred? You and I did the same thing. For like 15 minutes. It's just like, and my headphones, and just kept ringing and ringing and I was like, that's a good sound. I love it. Oh, man. So thank you, Gryser. Just once again, we are very humbled.
Starting point is 00:09:01 We are thankful. We see you. We appreciate it more than you know. It is not lost on us. Yeah, yeah. Guys, I hate that motion. I'm not doing the stupid little finger heart thing. No, I'm just going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Just going to tell you awkward thing. I love you, Greaser. I love you. And I think Jiggle, as always, gifted some subs in there, too. Oh, of course. Oh, that's right, Jill Dinglepuff did too. Okay, I was busy just shooting people down on that one or getting
Starting point is 00:09:28 shot by people probably more. Actually, I think I was busy getting blown up by Ryan who was basically suiciding me into landmines while he jumped out of the Jeep. That is not intentional, but it was so good that it happened. That clip is so good. We'll have to throw it on socials
Starting point is 00:09:44 too, but it's on our Twitch on the clips. I think Jigo captured it for us, but yeah, I'm for the people who didn't see it. I'm in the Jeep we're riding up. Josh hops in, spawns on me and hops in, and you see him pop up to the top gunner. And then I'm going to go cap C. So I hop out and the, you know, the Jeep keeps coasting and just explodes. It ran over a mine and Josh, Ryan. Just insta death. You sounded like my dad, dude. Just instantly. Ryan. I say that a lot. A lot of people do. I've heard it a lot. I'll say it.
Starting point is 00:10:16 so listen thank you to everybody that participated in the community night guys this is why we love video games this is why we do this podcast if you like playing video games with people that are awesome people nobody's toxic you know everybody's there to have a good time you need to join one of these community nights you need to join our discord server there is nothing like playing video games with your friends and people that are there to have a good time so you know if you couldn't make this one we're probably doing another one very soon since since that one was so much fun and we've got a game to play with people now
Starting point is 00:10:50 but yeah once again thank you everybody and don't be scared off if you don't have Battlefield we usually we switch up the games a lot we've done like Fall Guys, Rivals Halo Infinite. We try to do some free to play games too. Just so happens Battlefield 6 is all the way. But that's all we're doing now for sure. Yeah that's right
Starting point is 00:11:08 we're just Battlefield 6 community at this place. That's what we are. All right guys listen you know we hinted at this man there are I could have gone on forever with my list I know look I know I might be the guy
Starting point is 00:11:24 the voice is my complaints a little bit more readily on this podcast you know I've just I've had more time to experience these annoying things that we all deal with so let's just get into it boys let's just get these irritating just stupid wrong
Starting point is 00:11:40 things off our chest let them have it yeah I hit it at the unskippable cutscenes, which is an atrocity. If you are a developer and you make your cutscene unskippable, shame on you. Like, shame on you. But you know what might be even worse than that guys? Very much in the same vein, unskippable intro scenes.
Starting point is 00:12:05 The freaking splash screens that pop up where it's like made with Unreal Engine, you know, published by EA. Bro, I don't need six different screens. I just want to play the game. Put it in the credits, homie. Just put me in the main menu and then tell me to wait a few seconds. That's fine. If you need to load stuff, like I get it. But don't make me feel like I have to watch the same five freaking splash screens
Starting point is 00:12:32 over and over again every time I start your game. Just let me play the game. Oh, my. Dude, Battlefield started doing this, And I swear day one that you could not skip the opening cinematics. And then I noticed that shortly after day two, if you pressed and held the space bar, it did the little like skip, like where you have to press. Guys, nobody wants the warning that you're about to skip that.
Starting point is 00:12:57 You can just make it where you press the space bar. Are you sure you want to skip this for the 8,000th time? It's not like it's dialogue or anything. It's just the intro. Like, you know, nobody cares, dude. Oh, man. I'm going to get one here. So, man, there's just so many.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Like you said, Josh, this was so easy to make a list. It's like, oh, I hate that. I hate that. I hate that. I'm going to go with Ace may not like this one, but video game collabs. Oh, come on. Those drive me freaking nuts. Dude, Ace is so mad right now.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Ace is like, what? You know what I hate is people with dumb opinions? I just miss the days when games were games and they were their own entity, their own IP, and then they're not all just trying to team up to try to, you know, oh, well, we're bringing this to our game. You know, overplaying Fortnite, I should not have to go fight Nikki Minaj and stuff like that. Like, it's just, it's getting ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Dude, I, listen, look, I like persona royale, right? Like, that's fine. But the overwatch, and I like Overwatch, but this collab is like, bro, I cared less. I don't need these collabs in my games. None of this stuff interests me. It adds longevity to a game by driving interest from other parties. That's all, okay?
Starting point is 00:14:10 That's how it works. It adds money to their pockets. It adds money to their pockets. That's what it does. You know what it keeps your Overwatch 2 alive, so I hope you're happy. Wait, you know what I hate is people that support video game collapse. Oh, there you know what I hate? You know what I hate.
Starting point is 00:14:29 You and your stupid face, Josh. That's what I hate. Yeah, you. I hate this podcast. No. I absolutely. I talked about how I hate when a boss heals, like mid-fight. I hate it more when they can hurt me just by stepping on me.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Contact damage is the dumbest thing ever. I hate it. You want to defend it as like being skillful that you have to avoid where you land when you're fighting? It's not. It really isn't. No, yeah. Dude, I agree wholeheartedly because Silk Song really did this for me, where I would be, you know, on our another thing we're going to cover that we don't like,
Starting point is 00:15:06 but on my runbacks, when I'm going back to go to the boss, and I accidentally bump into like a little slug guy and I land on him and does the same damage as like a sword attack to me it just that stuff drives me nuts it doesn't make sense it's outdated it should have died in the 90s like I just I am not a fan of contact damage
Starting point is 00:15:26 no it's the worst Mario did it right you know hey you can jump on these things that's cool that's how you kill them oh look there's something with spikes on it and then I instantly go I probably shouldn't jump on that guy that makes sense common sense contact damage across the board is stupid, man. Ace, I feel like
Starting point is 00:15:43 you've been playing Hades, too, and the Cyclops is giving you trouble because he heals, and he stomps on you, so... He heals mid-fight, he throws in there's stupid shockwaves that you can't point. I can tell where Ace's anger is coming from on this one. What's it? Paula
Starting point is 00:16:00 Polyphemus, isn't it? Polyphemus. I've never lost to him, though. Never once. Yeah, me either. yeah well it's easy to do when you're just playing it 20 hours a day and not playing battlefield yeah not playing battlefield six and resing us ace yeah all right guys one of this will absolutely ruin a game i will quit a game i will refund it and i will never ever ever touch that game again this is how much i hate this it is stuttering in a video game dude if your game can't run properly or at least smoothly i have a major major issue with you
Starting point is 00:16:39 with that. Like, I'm okay if it only runs at 30 frames a second. I'm not saying that's forgivable, but my brain can at least like process that and be like, okay, this sucks, but I can deal with it. But if you give me a game where there is stuttering or it gets choppy, like just randomly, like, oh my gosh, it like, I don't know what it is about my brain, but it just revolts, dude. It is like nails on a chalkboard to me. I cannot handle it. I cannot tolerate it. Callisto Protocol. I'm looking at you. I knew. I knew that's. the game you're going to bring up to this day. I will never forgive you.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I was like, is that I was going to say? Is that why you took Callisto Protocol out back and shot her? Took it to the shooting shed. Ever. And I know everybody's going to be like, oh, they fixed that like on day two. It doesn't matter. That's how bad it is. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Finish the game before you release it. Yeah, fix it and get it done. Imagine if the devs, you know, really optimized the games and they, you know, made sure they worked. What a world that would be. Oh, yeah. Dream on, buddy. man is it uh is it in my turn yep what do you yeah yeah me what you got uh i'm gonna go with
Starting point is 00:17:45 uh again with uh devs and in in companies trying to get that money as much as they can i'm going with dLC on or close to launch oh that is just like listen is there is a recent game ryan like donkey con pananza maybe that you might be referencing where it's like this is such a a cheesy thing to do to gamers here's all this stuff we've already developed it. We already have it ready and we could put it in this main game, but we're just going to chop it off and resell it to you, you know, for an additional price. Enjoy. I'm going to dude, I have to add on to yours, Ryan, because I hate DLC that comes out close to the game that is a continuation of the story campaign. Like the story campaign ended on a cliffhanger
Starting point is 00:18:31 or unsatisfyingly, and then they threw a DLC onto the end just to, just for the heck of it. It drives you crazy. Find out what happens next month on the new D.L.C. Assassin's Creed Odyssey did that, and I hate it. Every single DLC was canon to the story. I refuse. It was the worst. At that point.
Starting point is 00:18:51 This story is just over at that point because you ain't getting no more money out of me. But I think I hate when games release in chapters instead of full games more. That is my least favorite thing. Oh, that's tough because, like, with the Walking Dead series, like that I think worked as like a chapter release but then there are other games like mascot horror games that release in chapters there was a remake of like Kings Quest like the old Sierra games that they remade and they did that in chapters instead of just giving you the whole game and I'm like really like really people is this just a way where you can
Starting point is 00:19:26 just I don't know if you're trying to buy more time or if you're trying to make more money or both I don't know genuinely I hate it though I just give me the full thing thankfully that one's not super common but I'm with you man that would bother me it's like either make the game or don't make the game that kind of ties into the DLC thing too yeah right where it's like you're chopping this up and then trying to sell me bits and pieces of it
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Starting point is 00:21:01 I hate when when developers try to say that their game is a combination of two of the greatest games ever made. If you come at me and you're like, listen, this little indie title that we're developing is a mix of Red Dead Redemption 2 and Eldon Ring. Yeah. Bro, I am instantly just going to be like, you are freaking crazy, number one. And number two, this better be the best game that has ever graced gaming in the history of gaming if you're going to claim that your game. is a mix of those two things, but there's a 99.9% chance that your game sucks and you're just trying to drum up interest by using these other awesome games in the process. This has become a trend I feel like in the last like three years that really just irritates me, man, where it's like,
Starting point is 00:21:50 oh, we're a blend of Slay the Spire in Hades. No, you're not. No, you're not. Your game sucks, people, and you're just trying to get people to check it out. Okay, stop it. editing my notes for next episode. That is absolutely what they're doing for sure. Well, it's, and they've, I think they got it from like the sports world. Because you'll see these players where they're like, oh, yeah, he's a combination of Michael Jordan and Jesus. He's going to be great. Yeah. He's good. He's a good player, but this is a little bit of overkill people. This is not this combination. Oh, geez. All right, what's up for you, Ryan? What's another one you got? I am going to go to one that you all.
Starting point is 00:22:30 know that I despise and it's going to be turn base gaming oh come on if you know if you want to take turns go play chess go play something else this is an interactive video game on the spot the audacity to
Starting point is 00:22:48 think that guys would just sit and bounce and then just wait for their turn to attack or defend it's just it drives me nuts and I man the thought of like interacting that way in like society I always laugh thinking of if you were to walk and then you just waited and then somebody else just waited you know it's oh it just it drives me nuts man you're saying that you don't like waiting
Starting point is 00:23:08 on on other things no i'm i don't like waiting to interact like like like oh yeah i'm not like yeah i'm not like you tie this in the time like somebody to like show up or something like that you wanted to start early anyways you started an hour early so don't even i want to play battlefield man yeah i know i already made an exception for you all right That was basically 40 minutes early. That's true. You got a point. Yeah, you got a point.
Starting point is 00:23:35 All right, fine. Anyways, yeah, turn base gaming sucks. Come at me, bro. Yeah, they will. I assure you, they will bring it on. Yeah, they will. You're asking for it. This is probably specifically me, but I hate three-dimensional maps in a video game.
Starting point is 00:23:51 I cannot read them. This is a weird one, Ace. I cannot read them. I read this one, and I was like, what does Ace have against maps? I hate them. I can't tell where I'm at. I can't. say anything that like the hologram
Starting point is 00:24:02 map from Jedi Fallen Ordering like I can't read that thing. DeBrock Galactic Deep Rock Galactic has the worst map I've ever seen in a game game. I'm like where are we where we supposed to go is that up is that down? I don't know where this thing is. Just give me a flat image map. I don't need to see everything. Yeah
Starting point is 00:24:18 it does it be like go down down. Yes just give me an arrow like an arrow up down up down. That's a good example too because that is a little and it's like that holographic kind of look too. I can't see it. It's really hard. to read and you're trying to turn it and spin it like wait which way do I go you know yeah I get that one for sure yeah guys you know what I really hate is when gamers complain about stuff
Starting point is 00:24:41 oh so on this episode we're on this episode where we are complaining about things in video games I do have to bring up the fact that I hate when gamers complain about stupid things right like 3D maps we're a hard we're a hard lot to please I get it but look there are especially lately, dude, there are some things, and people have heard me mention these before, where gamers complain about the dumbest things ever, and then way overblow those out of proportion, dude. Look, Starfield, I found to be extremely, you know. I didn't like the game, but the invisible wall that broke the internet where it's like somebody recorded them running in a straight line for 10 minutes straight, and then they bump into an invisible wall on the planet,
Starting point is 00:25:23 and they go, oh, next gen game, this game's stupid, it sucks, there's an invisible wall. And the internet lost their mind, dude. Like, we have seen this time and time again. A vowed, right? And then the Oblivion remake, you can't kick chickens in the stall and avowed. And this is a current next-gen game and I can't kick a chicken. And the internet lost their mind. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Stop it. These are dumb things to complain about people, okay? Like, I literally, dude, it's become such a trend now. I just saw a post on social media where the person said Battlefield 6 is terrible. I hate how small. the magazine size are for the weapons and it ruins the game for me and it had like a hundred thousand likes on it and I'm like oh my gosh you do understand the limitations with like magazines and weapons right like this is not this is not a design choice like but this was the thing
Starting point is 00:26:16 they were complaining about and I'm like is this really what we have gotten into at this point yeah gamers were always find something to complain about for sure and most time it's dumb yeah yes Yeah. And I, it irritates me when gamers are dumb. So you're irritated all the time. Yeah. What you got, Ryan? 24-7. I am, I am going to go with one thing that really, really drives me nuts. And again, I'm harping on these devs and stuff is multiple launch delays. When these games just keep getting pushed back and pushed back, it's like, man, most of these people are career professionals.
Starting point is 00:26:55 They've been developing games for a long time. It's probably not their first game. A lot of the times, you should have some sort of scope on your, you know, your picture point, like graph thing where this is going to take this long, this will take that long. There should be no need for more than one unless something catastrophic happens. If you've got to push a game back, hey, it's just not quite ready. We're going to push it to here. It'll be this time to be safe.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And I'm sure publishers have kind of a thing on that where they're pushing for these guys because they want some money. but man it just having games delayed multiple times drives me crazy yeah dude i'm crazy i used to think that but now i'm kind of for the delays if they need the delay to stop all the other things that we hate about games like stuttering and all these other things that's the other things that's the other things so it's kind of like getting rid of escort missions oh dude speaking of escort missions they may suck but i think paling missions are worse where you just have to slowly follow follow somebody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Oh, they're going to guide you there, lead you the way or whatever. And if they turn around and see you, you have to start over. Oh, dude. Stealth missions where it's total failure. This isn't even on my list, but you can see, we're going down into the pits of despair. Bro, you give me a stealth mission and it's like, you failed. And you have to start the mission all over again. Like, no.
Starting point is 00:28:12 No, man. No, thank you. See, I kind of consider tailing missions like escort missions. That's what I say. They're in the same vein, in my opinion. Yeah, it's weird because they are different. but I'm with you. Those are the worst, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yeah. You know, guys, you know one of the things I hate the most about gaming is this whole stupidity over the console wars, guys. Oh. Like, how did this even start? Look, bro. The console I bought is better than the console you bought. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Glad you think that. That would have been the end of it. And all somebody had to do is be like, cool, man, I'm really glad you like your PlayStation. No, no, no, no. No. You know, my PlayStation's so much better than your Xbox. No, my Xbox is so much better than your PlayStation. Meanwhile, as PC guys are laughing at both of you, like,
Starting point is 00:28:58 how you call the console plebs. I like how you call the console wars dumb, and then you start being PC masteries, like, right away. Dang it. I will say the best combo is PC and PlayStation for sure. What about Nintendo, Ryan? You're just going to leave them? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Oh, look at you just slamming Nintendo. You know what, all the Nintendo truthers out there rise up. people rise up and put Ryan in his place try you can try they don't have any gas money because they spent so much on their switch two in their games oh man look console wars are stupid they are don't let's just stop let's it's it's time let it go yeah yeah i agree wholeheartedly did we uh okay so did we mention this i know it's a big one we've always talked about uh water levels no we haven't talked about water levels yet no dude water levels are so dumb. They're so dumb. I know they're not as common anymore because I think they, the devs realize like nobody likes them, but, oh, water levels are just, they're just the worst, man. It's so bad. Do you know the best water level I've ever seen in a video game was the one in Expedition 33? Because it acts like a normal level.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Because it's a normal level that you don't have to swim. They figured it out. They finally went, look, we want to have this pretty level that's underwater, but we're going to make it play exactly the same as every other level. It just looks awesome. I don't know. didn't even think about that dude yeah no 100% that water level i just remember we're going whoa i just looked like an idiot like little kid just looking around at the museum or something like whoa you know it was uh yeah that was cool but the normal water levels where you just trudging along slower and then you have to hold your breath for it you have your oxygen meter and your oh two meter and stuff oh it drives me nuts it drives me nuts dude i hate water levels but i think i might hate ice levels more sliding around oh trying to get somewhere i like the slide i like the ice I don't mind the ice levels.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Fire levels are like my wife's bane of existence. If she's playing a game that she loves and a fire level pops up, she just nopes out. She's like, nope, I don't want that. And I'm like, do you want me to beat the level for you? And she's like, if you want to, but otherwise I'm not playing this anymore. Those are the hard levels in Mario is the fire levels. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Oh, God. You got another one ace or was that yours? I was going to just go with that one. But also, I hate people who won't swap or fill in hero shooters. Oh, dude. those are the people that I will rage against I try not to be toxic Uninstall
Starting point is 00:31:24 If I pick tank The other two or three people have picked DPS The other two people who join You have to be support We can't have more DPS Yep I Dude nothing irritates me more than somebody That's just like
Starting point is 00:31:39 Forget everybody on this team I'm playing a team based game But screw all you guys I don't need a team Why are you playing this then? A 1V6 A different game And then they'll be like, where's my heels?
Starting point is 00:31:51 It's like, you were supposed to be the heels. Heels diff. Guys, you have no insurance. You know what really chaps my britches, boys? Is when a game puts in a basic tutorial and it starts off with press W to move forward. I know how to play a game. If you were developing video games,
Starting point is 00:32:12 you should assume that people that buy video games know how to play a video game. I know how to walk. If you were putting a tutorial in your game that is literally press W to move forward and press S to move backwards, you're an idiot. Nobody is this stupid, okay? Look, and I get it. Maybe there's a four-year-old out there that is this is their very first video game.
Starting point is 00:32:33 That's what parents are for. The parents will tell them how to play it. I don't need you making a tutorial that tells me how to move forward and backward in a video game. No, that's okay. Sorry. No, no, no. That's a good one. Let it out, buddy.
Starting point is 00:32:46 It's not good. It's not healthy to hold it. it in, man. You just got to let it out of there. Now, that is true. Like, you know, most people, like, 95% plus that buy the games, already have played games. They know the controls. They know the mappings. Like, it should be very simple, skip
Starting point is 00:33:02 the tutorial type thing, get to the, get to the meet of the game. You know, it's, yeah. Think about this, dude. If somebody doesn't know how to move forward in a video game, the chances that they know how to request a refund for the game that they can't figure out are slimmed done. You don't have to worry about it anyway! Just sell them the game, man.
Starting point is 00:33:19 They're not going to know what to do. They will not know how to get rid of that game. Oh, man. I am going to go with, I'm going to go with something that has been more prevalent in the last probably decade or two. Taking like five to ten years to develop a game. That, that's a long development time. How long have I been waiting for the next Elder Scrolls? A long time.
Starting point is 00:33:47 It's been like 15 years, dude. This is ridiculous. I get it. You want to make it the best. You want to do what you can to make these games great. But, man, it's, it's, that's far too long, in my opinion, to develop a game. It's, it's crazy. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:05 My last one here, dude. I don't want to know why it bothers me so much, but when you get image slideshows instead of cut scenes when you've completed a game, it just drives me insane. It's talking like a still scene where it's just like, text and then it just goes to another still scene. Yeah, it's still scene with narration and text and then it just goes, goes, goes and it's like, you have the assets
Starting point is 00:34:25 animated. Is that an indie thing? I'm trying to think of games that have done that. This is an indie thing because I'm like trying to think and I'm like this doesn't bother, maybe I haven't come across many of these, but this happens in more combat, it happens in infamous second sun, it happens
Starting point is 00:34:41 in several games, dude. One of the worst things in world to me is mouse lag or input delay. And sometimes games just are not coded properly to where if I move my mouse and there is a half second delay, or even a quarter second delay, that game's over. It's done. I will, I cannot play it until I figure that part out. So do not make that happen in your games, people, because it is infuriating. I'll tell you what, let's let's rapid fire a few more because we're just about out of time and I got a few more that I need to get off my chest. Ryan, you got any more? Me too for sure. One of the biggest ones is
Starting point is 00:35:18 text read only like no no voiceover work no audio stuff. It's just just do it. Bite the bullet. Pay the extra, you know, 50 grand or whatever in your development and get some voice actors so that people don't have to sit there and read.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Insta kill moves. I despise Insta kill moves in any game. One shots suck. For me, bad pixel graphics. Learn how to do smart people. If you're going to develop a game And you're not an artist
Starting point is 00:35:49 Then go befriend an artist But bad pixel graphics are terrible Good one Early access Just finish the game Finish the game I'm not helping you develop this I'm not helping you find all the bugs
Starting point is 00:36:02 That's what betas are for Finish the game launch it You know and have it complete Limited end game resources So I can't max out all my equipment I hate that It drives me crazy Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:14 Any menu option that says you must restart the game for these changes to take effect. No. Oh, the worst. No good. Real money for in-game currency. If I have to hear, Dad, can I have some V-bucks
Starting point is 00:36:27 or some rob bucks or whatever bucks that these kids want nowadays? I'm going to blow my brains out. I'm sick of it. Required mini-games. Mini-games that you have to play for progression. No likey. So that's another weird one.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I kind of like mini-games. I don't like being games. forced to play them like in silk song you had to play the mini games in order to get the pale oil oh yeah the little target things yeah that was stressful that's fair uh last one for me forced companions uh i want to be the hero i don't want us to be the hero fair and if you give me a companion that i cannot get rid of i hate your game instantly it's about me uh last one for me is going to be uh loot chess uh i hate the game game gambling i love to gamble, but I hate the gambling in games.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Yeah, that's, that's fair. Last one for me is runbacks. Runbacks are the worst. Runbacks from anything. Look at you, Silk Song. Yeah, Silk Song, you've ruined me, by the way. Guys, you know what? I hate podcast episodes that go on too long.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Oh, those are the worst. So this one's over, everybody. What's a segue. We want to hear the things that you hate about gaming. We want those irritating things that you just can't get over, the things that come across all the time.
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