Video Gamers Podcast - GTA VI News! – Gaming Podcast

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

Gaming hosts Josh, Ryan, and Ace are breaking down the latest GTA VI bombshells! From high pricing and no physical copies, to questionable performance concerns and everything in between, we're separating fact from speculation. If you're obsessed with video games, this episode is packed with gaming discussion, gaming debates, and the biggest headlines surrounding Rockstar's massive release. Grab a seat, pause those video games, and join us for another can't-miss gaming episode of the Video Gamers Podcast!   Thanks to our MYTHIC Supporters: Redletter, Disratory, Ol’ Jake, Gaius, Jigglepuf, Phelps and NorwegianGreaser, Dettmarp and NightWizard63   Thanks to our Legendary Supporters: HypnoticPyro, PeopleWonder, Bobby S.   Connect with the show: Support us on Patreon: ⁠patreon.com/videogamerspod⁠ Join our Gaming Community: https://discord.gg/h2cHKAvSmu Follow us on Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/videogamerspod/⁠  Follow us on X:⁠ https://twitter.com/VideoGamersPod⁠  Subscribe to us on YouTube:⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@VideoGamersPod?sub_confirmation=1⁠    Visit us on the web:⁠https://videogamerspod.com/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello, fellow gamers, and welcome to the Video Gamers podcast. GTA6 is the most hyped video game in many years, and it looks like it's actually going to release on November 19th. A game like this doesn't just release, though. It changes the gaming landscape and can affect the future of gaming based on its impact and reception. Will it succeed? Can it fail? And what are some of the repercussions if it does?

Even if you don't plan on playing GTA6, stick around for this episode because regardless of your plans, it's going to affect the gaming industry and we're breaking down how. But before we get to that, some introductions are in order. I am your host, Josh, and joining me, if I'm Michael, he's definitely the Franklin of this group. He's my homie who will go to bad for his friends. It's Ryan. I'm so surprised you didn't call me Trevor No you're not Trevor None of us are Trevor

I'm not that crazy No you're not that crazy That's good to know I'm glad you're the loyal like Now Franklin is organized You're not very organized You know but like you're like the loyal No nonsense kind of guy

Like have a good time but like you're You're there to get done what needs to get done It's shop You know Yeah So And joining us He's the

Trevor. No, I'm just kidding. He's the Lester of the group, the coordinator, the mastermind, and the true playboy of the bunch. It's ace. As much as a loser as he is, I got to agree. Yeah. That's probably the closest comparison. He's, dude, Lester's the man, dude. Like, you would not have pulled off anything in GTA 5 if it wasn't for Lester, dude. At Jewel Heist. You got to give, got to give credit. Credit for credits do. Yeah, exactly. And you are, you have, you have become kind of the coordinator ace where it's like, guys, this is what we, we've got to cover.

This is what's coming up, you know. I'm not going to lie. I appreciate the heck out of it, Ace. I do kind of end up micromanaging just a little bit like, oh, hey. What happens when you don't have kids? Yeah, this is true. It's not only that. It's just that like Ryan and I tend to just like go with like wherever the whimsy takes us.

And that's not always the best, I, you know, thing to have to do. and it's like I've been put in the like Michael role where I'm trying to like, you know, hold things together and organize stuff sometimes. You know, also maybe the most handsome. But I'm just saying, uh, it's like, what? No. No, I agree. Totally.

It's all you, dude. It's all you. Anyway. So we, we, it's a compliment ace. It's compliment. All right. He's got enough. He's got enough.

Yeah. Yeah. See, this is why on most intros, I, like, just pick on you guys because whenever I'm nice to you guys, then you're all like, this feels weird. It feels wrong. It feels like we're waiting for the rug to get pulled out from under. this is why,

this is why most of the time, like 99.4% of the time, it's just a troll on you guys instead. But yeah. All right. Well, listen, welcome in everybody. Boy, do we have GTA6 in the news? I mean, all kinds of stuff. The gaming world is a buzz with GTA6 stuff going on right now.

Ryan is a buzz because he is assuming that he is going to win our game of the year draft because he drafted GTA 6 and it's probably coming out this year. And Ryan is already celebrating thinking this is going to be the game of the year winner. Little does he know it releases too late to actually be nominated for Game of the Year. So, you know, that's the last time I'm reminding you of that, Ryan. But we're going to, you know, I mentioned this in the intro, but listen, even if you, because We know there's a lot of people that go, bro, I could care less about GTA 6. I don't have a PS5.

I don't love the series, whatever. And that's fine. But stick around because there are going to be a lot of things that we are going to talk about today that like I said, will absolutely affect the industry itself on this. You don't have a game like GTA 6 that gets released and the amount of money that went into this, the amount of marketing. And a lot of what we're going to talk about, how other companies will absolutely try to follow suit at that point. And that's where things are going to get a little crazy. And that's a lot of

what we're going to be talking about on this episode. So even if you don't plan on playing the game, stick with us. Because I think this is going to be, you know, it's going to be educational. And I think that it's going to be a really good glimpse at what the future of the gaming industry might look like in some of the things that we're going to see coming up. So I want to start off with hype because like we just talked about and like we here, hear about because we have a Discord server of over 1,350 gamers. It's super active, people. If you're not part of our Discord, we say this every single episode, but this is not your awkward random Discord server with like 12 people in it, maybe, you know, and it's just dead. And then maybe

there's one post from like three weeks ago in there. This is absolutely super active Discord server. And so we get, it is a good pulse of like what is how gamers are actually feeling. And so we reference that a lot because we have a ton of different gamers in the server that have a ton of different game tastes and like the types of things that they love. So, Ace, I want to start with you. All right. Because I feel like, and this might be wrong and correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like you are probably the least hyped out of the three of us for GTA6. So what is your hype level and wire is it where it's at? I just don't have that much hype for this game.

having not been a fan of this franchise and not worked my way through any of the games at all. The most I played is I played a bit of GTA online with some friends because they wanted to play it and I was confused the whole time. I had no idea what the heck was going on. Mind you this is before I played Red Dead 2 and I kind of understood the control scheme at that point. But, you know, I digress. I just don't really care about GTA 6. It's as so many people's most anticipated games, but I feel like I'd be more excited at this point just to hear about Elder Scroll 6 than GTA. that's fair i mean that's honestly there's a lot of ryan was shaking his head a little bit

because he's like how can you not how can you not be in love with the game i drafted days you know but it's not more excited for wolverine all right if we're talking about games you drafted that's that's a good game that's a good game but dude like this uh you're you're you sit and you talk about games that look like they're made in a blender and and you're you are so stoked and this is one of the game and what the game actually has in it is completely I just like it it blows my mind that people could not be excited

for what there's there's something for everybody you know even in GTA 5 you could go play golf if you wanted you could go race it was a racing game too it has so many different options so you're not to have any interest in real life I just don't understand

I can go play tennis I can go fish I can do so much in real life right it's real it's the real world I could do things this is I just had to comment because Ryan's reaction was like, oh, oh, but you know, to be fair, that's why I like, there's a lot of people to feel like Ace.

You like what? I like Watch Dogs better than I like GTA, because at least there's something special. You just said you haven't played GTA. I like the idea of what Watch Dogs Doug does way better than GTA. At least you're walking around, you're walking around realistic cities surrounded by people committing crimes,

and you can have the hacking. Can you run over Hooker's ace on the side of the road? Probably shouldn't. You'll probably get your money back. You'll get arrested. Yeah. It's a fair take, to be honest. You know, like I said, I wanted to go to Ace first because I feel like, you know,

Ryan and I are more excited on this one than Aces. But we have talked to a lot of people that just go, look, I'm not into the series. It doesn't do much for me. And that's a lot of gamers out there, you know. We'll be covering it. A's going to play JT6 when it comes out. There's no choice. Yeah, exactly.

It is the biggest game release of this year so far. announced wise. Unless Lafay... Is it the biggest... So far? Unless Laofé just shadow drops one day. Like... No.

That wouldn't even be one tenth of GTA. It's God of War. Is... All right. No. This is a question. Is GTA6 the biggest game release ever? Yes.

Ever? No. Ever. It cannot be ever. You guys are... Name a game that's more hype than GTA6, Ace. I mean, cyberpunk was more hype than GTA6 when it dropped. No.

I was I was really excited for you people were taking days off of work for cyber your personal excitement doesn't change like the numbers dude like that like within the first hour reports say that they already made a billion dollars off of pre-orders as because people are pre-ordering 30 40 50 million pre-orders already and they haven't even shown gameplay dude what do you mean the hype is there I I I so Ryan what is your hype level. My hype is through the roof. It's absolutely through the roof.

As someone who started playing the original GTA, I played a lot of GTA 2 on the original PlayStation, and then obviously once 3 came out and it was 3D and you added in this open, beautiful world, it was just like a whole other level, and that's when GTA really took off.

But this is the largest and most anticipated game of all time. Absolutely. There's no question at all. Nothing even comes close. Whether it will be that, you can argue from that point, but there's no way you go and a developer as big as rock star who's made as many amazing games as they've created and they put two billion dollars to make this masterpiece. There's no way that it's not the most anticipated game of

all time. I don't disagree. Like honestly, I kind of want to argue just for the sake of arguing on this one. You know what was the most anticipated game, I think. I think it was Silk Song. and now we have Silk Song because that was the highest wish listed game of all time on Steam. Yeah, you might be right. I think it actually was

the most wishlisted game ever. I'm closer to Ryan than I am to Ace, although I am excited to play GTA 6. GTA is the weird game for me where I have loved every single GTA I have played. I think I missed one of them. I don't remember, I played three.

I don't know that I played Vice City. There's one. There's one that I missed. I don't remember which one it was. And I played GTA back in the days when it was a top-down, like, 2D-looking game. You know what I mean? So I'm very familiar with the series.

I quite enjoy the series. I loved GTA 5. I thought it was fantastic. I don't love the online GTA, to be honest with you. I play GTAs as just single-player epic, you know, open-world type games with tons and tons of stuff to do, but I don't really care for the online portion of it. I am very, very excited for GTA 6.

The odd thing for me is I think I'm more excited to see if this is truly the next gen game that we all hope that GTA 6 is going to be. And we've talked about this before. Every GTA that has come out has pushed the envelope immensely, dude. Like GTA 5, there was no other game like it, dude. I mean, honestly, like between the graphical fidelity, the open world, the, the, the, you know, driving was top notch, the vehicles, like any, you know, it just, we could talk about it for days, but it's like, it truly pushed the envelope of gaming. Three different main characters.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, playing it from three different perspectives and how that interlinks and all that stuff. I mean, you know, so again, it pushed the envelope of gaming. And I think I'm actually more curious to see if GTA6 is pushing that forward. Or is it going to feel more like GTA 5, where it's like, yeah, There's a little bit better graphics, but, you know, how is it the next best thing in gaming? Because mostly GTA has done that.

So I'm closer to Ryan, but I think the reasoning for that is more. I just want to see, is this the next greatest thing that we have ever seen in a video game? You know, all right. Let's talk about some of the news because it's not all good news, guys. The internet is a buzz, and people are arguing over a lot of things that have been said. lately. And we, you know, we don't shy away from tough topics on this podcast. I think we might think a little bit differently, which is also good to get different points of views and things like that. So the first thing, the pricing. Rumors were flying about GTA6 being the first $100 game,

you know, $120. You know, people were getting crazy with the predictions. I don't want to say that I called it, but I, we had this conversation and I said, it's going to be 80 bucks, guys. they're going to go for the premium tag, but they don't want to rock the boat with this one too much. They're going to sell a gazillion copies. I said $80. What did you guys say? Do you guys remember? I think I said 90.

I thought they were going to try to get as close to that 100 as they could. I have no clue what I said. But I feel like I was within that $80. $90 range. Yeah. So it is $79.99 for the base edition, which I think, listen, nobody likes paying more money for games. But if you're ever going to have an $80 game, GT6 is it. you know,

Nintendo, get out of here with your $80 games. It's not the first $80 game. I'll say that. Yeah, it's not the first one. But it's probably the one that actually is worth $80.

It's the one that is worth it. It's the one that could possibly set the new standard, which is... Well, and that's what a lot of people are worried about is, is this the new standard?

But listen, if you're going to try to say our game is worth $80, you better be giving me a GTA6 quality game at the same time. We just paid $70 for Lego Batman. And we were all very disappointed about that. You know what I mean? Because it's not a $70

game. Now, you know, yeah, it's published by Warner Brothers and it's the IP and it's Lego and all this stuff so they could get away with it. But I don't think there's too many people out there that went Lego Batman, that's a worth every bit of $70. Like that's just, whether you like the game or not, I think, you know, you're not going to hear anybody arguing that it's worth $70. GTA6, I think, it'll be worth the price. Now, this is where some of the controversy comes in. This is weird to me, to be honest,

but the ultimate edition, 99, 99. Here's your $100 game, people. The ultimate edition. What do you get with the ultimate edition? I mean, you get the game, you get some extra story missions, and mostly, it's cosmetics, isn't it? It's mostly just a bunch of cosmetic shops

that you can access that other people can't. Vehicles, weapons, tattoos, clothes. clothes, cosmetics. The big thing, I don't know if you're leading into this, Josh. You're going into the story content stuff. Yep, that's exactly. Okay.

That's what I knew. I knew where you're going. And this is the one issue you have. As much as I love Rockstar and as much as I believe in them and I have all the faith in the world in what they are, what they're going to create. Hiding and making a paywall for a single player game with single player games. content behind an addition to the game like an upgraded edition, I am not a fan of that, man. That's pretty wild.

If you want to do online stuff or different things like that, I understand it. That's additional work, additional content that you're creating and give you back almost like a DLC. But I think any sort of upgraded addition should be cosmetics, like, look stuff. things like that. But if you're getting actual parts of the game that they're just like, oh yeah, well,

you don't get to play this. Boom, and they just put a wall there. I think that's wild, dude. That is, and like we said in the beginning, and Josh,

you know, you're talking about what this is going to affect for just the whole world of gaming. What is this going to mean for other developers if they're going to be like, oh, you know, that kind of worked. Like once GTA launches, a bazillion people buy the ultimate edition so they can have the other stuff.

Or people who bought the standard edition, upgrade to the ultimate so they can get the extra missions, then everybody starts doing it. We know gaming is kind of like the NFL. It's a copycat league. You know, whatever works and makes money, they keep doing it. So that's a very big concern for me. Yeah, dude. Oh, man. I'm not a man.

I'm not bad. You know, I'm not bad. This is not a good trend. And I don't want to see it continue. also this is a trend $20 for two story missions is yeah if you don't care about cosmetics you're just paying for those story missions yeah this is the problem i have is almost the principle of it because you already made the content it's not like you like ryan like you said this isn't like a future dLC pass or something like that this is we've already put and built the content we are intentionally cutting some of that content out and making it away from people so that we can give it to people that pay us more money. Rockstar's done this before with Red Dead Redemption 2, where they had their special and ultimate editions for Red Dead Redemption 2.

And those additions granted you access to an exclusive bank robbery side mission thing. So this isn't the first time Rockstar has done this. We've seen this with some other games. Star Wars outlaws famously, you got the Jabba's Gambit mission if you're paid for the premium edition. You know, uh, Overwatch. kind of did this for a little while with some of their PVE content when they were Overwatch 2 and they were trying to gate some of that stuff behind like their battle pass and stuff like that.

Mass Effect 3 did this. It's been done before, but it's not super common. The pushback on this is, is you've already made the content. Why, if I'm paying you $80 am I not getting these missions included? If you want to give people cosmetics like that, that's fine. but if you're withholding content from other people, it just feels a little scummy to me. You know,

like as much as I hate to play three days early thing, I can at least go like, okay, well, if I want to pay $20 to play earlier than everybody else, because I'm impatient and you're taking advantage of like my gamer desire to like play this game now kind of thing. Like, sure,

it's a little manipulative, but at least that makes sense and you're not withholding like stuff from other people. So this is where a lot of people are getting upset, because it's like, well, dude, you made the game, give me the game. And they're going, no, you get 98% of the game unless you're willing to pay this extra $20. Now, we're going to come back in just a second because we've got to take a break, but we're going to come back and we're going to talk about all the awesome things you get,

along with your physical copy of the game with this ultimate edition, because surely you're going to get a collector's tin and a cloth map and some of these other really key chain things, right, guys. Of course. And we'll be right back to talk about that. All right. We're back. Ace.

You love. You love you some Collectors Edition. I do. You must go to Ace for this. I love it. Of course I'm going to Ace for this. Brian, have you ever bought a collector's edition of any game?

No, never once ever. I have never in my life bought the Collectors Edition for any game. Ace. Yeah. Have you ever bought the Collectors Edition? Oh, wait. What's that say?

Resident Evil 2 Collectors Edition. I might say Resonent Evil 2 Collectors Edition. Right up thought there. literally right behind him. Okay, Ace. I mean, hey, you know, if Rockstar comes out and they say ultimate edition, $100, you get, you get this side mission. Yep. Is, that seems underwhelming to me.

You get this side mission and then you get a box that'll show up the month the game comes out and what's in that box? ain't a disc It's not the physical copy It ain't a disc It's a code It's a dang code Guys This is

I hate this trend This is the death Of the secondhand market Right here That's all this is That's the death of that It's the death of the collector's market Like it is

Not pretty And we've got more news Coming out later this week And why this is a bad idea To swap all the way To be a digital like this To be fair Because we do slam Nintendo

quite often on this show. So we can't let Rockstar get away with this without slaming them a little bit too. You know what I mean? Because fair is fair, right? And this is straight up anti-consumer, in my opinion. This is every game publisher in the world has tried to figure out how to stop the secondhand market,

how to stop the used sales of games, the resale market and things like that. I love being able to buy a Nintendo Switch game. My wife plays it for however, long she's going to play it for. And then even if it's six months later, being able to turn around sell that game for $40 to $45 on Facebook marketplace. And it's like we rented the game for $15 and she played at all she wanted to. You know, every gamer in the world loves this. You know what I mean? GameStop has made gillions of dollars by buying your used game for four bucks and then turning

around and selling it back to you for $40. Yep. You guys seen the, I don't remember his name Ross, Ross something where he's the guy that does the pranks where he puts like beans on his computer and pull his roof and that guy. Did you see the one he did where he goes to GameStop trades in his game and then turns around and buys it right away and it costs like $30 more?

The guy was like okay. I didn't see that but that's funny. That's I believe it. The guy gives him his store credit of like $7 and then he goes, you know what? I think I changed my mind. I'd like to buy that. And the guy goes, do you want like you're a refund? And he goes, no, I'll just buy it. And the guy goes. And then the guy's

like that'll be $40. And then he's like, okay, and he pays the $40 and walks out. But like, the use game market has been around forever. Gamers like this. Yeah. Publishers hate it. Publishers hate it. So,

I mean, Ryan, what do you think about this, dude? Is this scummy? Is this, hey, somebody figured it out? Is this business? You know what I mean? Like, hey, it's business, man. We don't have to pay to print CDs or DVDs. You know what I mean at this point? Like, is it fair?

I mean, I think, I mean, life's not fair, first of all. But I will say, I mean, it's absolutely business, but just because it's business doesn't mean it's right. Like, imagine if you, you know, they're trying so hard to stop the secondary market for these games. Imagine if they did that with, like, your vehicles. Like, you couldn't buy a used car. Oh, they started to.

Oh, yeah. You know? Dude, remote start. You want remote start on your car. You got to pay the $20 a month. You want heated seats. It's a $30 fee for that. And the stuff is in the vehicle and then they'll disable it and stuff.

So that's what the digitization of everything too allows them to have more control. And they're just using it as a chokehold for everything to capture as much revenue as they can. And that's what this comes down to is it's just they want every single cent that they can get. And I don't like it. Like I, it's just, it's it's super, super greedy. It's, it's nasty. I think if you buy something, you should own something. something. I think if you buy it, you should have it. Um, if you want to do subscription base,

that's fine. That's what it can be. But you, but you should also offer a purchase, outright purchase or, you know, not off, you know, I just, it, I think it's crazy. I think, I think not offering a physical disc, not offering the ability to actually own this game to where you can just play it no matter what is, is crazy. And the only, the only, you know, the only, you know, the only, reason is for greed. It's for it's there's no there's no efficiency. There's no oh, this works better for this or that. It's it's plain and simple.

This stops the secondary market. This stops people from reselling. And now you don't even own your content. Like it's our content. You pay the money and you're able to play it until we say you're not. And I, oh, I hate it. And we know they have the money to print discs. We know they do.

They can do that. And you're being charged extra to not get a disc. Yeah. The crazy thing is they're printing the boxes. Yeah. They're printing the boxes. Yeah. If you want to be the person that goes to GameStop and buys your copy of GTA6, you get the plastic case.

And when you open up that case, there is a code on a piece of paper inside that case. Now, this caused a ton of uproar on the internet. The internet lost its mind. rightfully so in this case you know and Rockstar you know everybody was calling Rockstar and the media said we want answers and Rockstar PR came out and they

said oh well there's going to be a physical version available in the future for people to buy are they back well it turns out that's not actually true Rockstar then came out and said no no but for for about a few days there was this oh so they're going to release a physical

version after the initial sales wave so that people that have to re-buy the physical version for those people that want to actually own their games. Well, that seems scummy. But then Rockstar came out and they said, no, we actually don't have any plans to release a physical version of this game ever. Now, guys, let me ask you something. Do you believe that they will never release a physical version of this game?

No. I believe when they see the stars in their eyes and people are. begging them for a physical copy along with their digital copy they already owned, then they'll release one. Once everyone has bought a digital copy and they're sure everyone has it, they're like, here's the physical edition for you to also buy and give us another $80 to $100. A thousand percent. I'm calling it right now.

You can timestamp this episode, bookmark it. They will absolutely release a physical version of this game to people, whether they want to call it the one-year anniversary edition. That's what they're going to do. They're going to time it with the PC release. Exactly. That's what I was thinking. That's what I was thinking.

PC port comes out and then they're going to be like R2R Xbox in game. Hey. And PlayStation players. It's just I don't like this trend that, you know, we see it like I said, automotive industries trying this crap. You know, they're doing this stuff. We're very against it. It's not good.

You know what I mean? And it's just the only way to fix it. is to vote with your wallet at that point, but let's be honest, it's too bad. I'm buying it. It's too late. It's GTA six. Listen, we can rail against this all day,

but it's like we're all playing GTA six, man. So it just kind of sucks, man, because it's like we're trapped by our desire to play awesome video games. And yet the only way to fix it is to refuse to play along. Well, you know, we're all going to play along because we're gamers.

This is going to be such an awesome game. Surely it's like top of the line. runs, you know, the best FPS possible. Oh, here we go. Yep, well, that's a great segue. That's a great segue, A. I love it. I love it. We're paying $80 for this, 80 to $100. Surely this is going to be in 4K, running, you know, 120 frames per second,

looking absolutely fly on the PS5, right? It's not in 4K, my name's not Shirley. Yeah. Well, do you like 30 FPS, Ace? Oh, 30 FPS, huh? If you guys played a 30 FPS game lately. The last 30 FPS game I played was Bloodborne. And they patched that to have a 60 FPS vote.

This is a true story. This is a little bit old. But I haven't played Rocket League in probably like eight months. But like one of the last times I played Rocket League, I was playing it. And something felt drastically wrong to me. And I could not figure out why the game just felt weird. And I went into the menus and somehow some way, I don't know if it was a patch or whatever. but it locked the frame rate to 30 frames per second.

Oh, and it was the most horrible thing I have ever witnessed in my life, guys. It feels wrong. Listen, you can make the argument about 60 frames per second versus 120. I know there's people out there go, oh, I play at 240 and all this stuff.

Like, there's a point where you really can't tell. You know, like, I get it. But like 30 to 60, there's a big gap in my opinion. You can absolutely tell. Here's the problem. They have come out and said that they are targeting, or they've just said at this point, that it will run at 30 frames per second on the PS5 and the Xbox Series X.

These are your two most powerful consoles in the world that are available to your consumer. And you're telling me that this game is maxing out at 30 frames a second. Yikes. Yikes. No. But Josh, I've got a PS5 pro. Do you know what they say about the PS5 pro? it will run at a more stable frame rate is the claim.

Now there's a lot of people that are projecting that it might be able to push 60 frames a second in performance mode. But Rockstar has not come out and confirm that. They have said that it will run at a more stable frame rate on the better hardware of the PS5 Pro. Good grief, man. I don't know what to say. This is supposed to be the next gen game. How many years have they had to work on this game? A long.

13 years or something, right? You're telling me in 13 years, you couldn't get this game above 30 FPS on the modern day console. And you only intend to launch this on console first. So you had time to focus on that specifically. Built on computers. You don't even have to worry about the PC right now because you don't do simultaneous launch. Yeah. It's unreal.

This is the other issue is there's no PC version at launch. And here's where we're going to get into a little bit of the rumor mill, but also a little bit more of the controversy on this. Okay. So they opened up pre-orders. Everybody pre-ordered this game. Like I think, Ryan, I don't know if your number's accurate, but you said they sold like a billion dollars worth of pre-orders already.

Morons. You know, that's, I mean, here's the thing, guys. You know, back in the day when you really, really wanted to ensure that you could play a game on release day, you pre-ordered it so that games. GameStop would have your physical copy of your game because the worst thing in the world was to go in and go, hey, you guys got any copies of GTA 5? And they're like, oh, bro, we're all sold out. All sold out. And then so, so now people pre-ordered because you wanted to guarantee your guy. Why are we pre-ordering a digital game, people? Amazon sold out of pre-orders. How does it even happen? Digital codes. Now, A, surely there's a pre-order bonus because every game in the world gives you a pre-order bonus. No, right? Not a one. Not a one. You mean there's not any bonus for pre-ordering a game? You know what you get?

You get a bonus. You get GTA plus for a month. That's your pre-order bonus. I don't even know what GTA plus is. Yeah. I don't know what that is either. I have no idea what GTA plus is. Ryan sitting over there like, guys, I pre-ordered.

What is GTA plus? I want to. I think, okay, here's a deal. And there's been talks about this is that it may be like a subscription-based thing. Yeah, online might be subscription base for 799 a month. So this is going to be like the GTA plus online thing type, you know, where you get a free month of that, but it's going to be an online subscription basis for GTA online. That is something I despise is charging a subscription to play a game online. Really?

I don't mind that. I don't mind that. Wait, wait, wait. You're telling me that GTA 6, which is the greatest game ever made, is not coming with an online version? Nope, it's a single player focused experience, Josh, didn't you hear? But A's GTA Online was separate from GTA 5 when that came out. Yeah, and it was free. Oh, oh, well.

It was a free. Haven't you ever heard of inflation? Hello? Inflation is $80 for a game. Not I'm going to sell you a separate game at $7.99 a month on top of my $80 game. You guys, we're being, listen, all right, we're being a little. little harsh. We're being a little harsh on this. Don't put me with you guys. I'm not

where. I'm not part of where. That's you and A's. Okay. Ryan. What did you think of the, Mr. Anti-Consumerism? I think I think it's totally, I think with. How was the new trailer? Yeah, how was the new trailer? How was the brand new trailer for the pre-a-6? They showed all that game play, man.

All that gameplay. Looked amazing. I could tell totally what I was going to do with this game. I know. I saw how much. I was going to spend, and that's about it, to be honest. But I... I do not. I'm 100% getting the ultimate edition.

Oh, God. Absolutely. I'm not gonna... I mean, yeah. We have a gaming podcast. We have a gaming podcast. We got a pre-order. You're getting the two, buddy. You're getting to two, don't worry. No, we, there's, there's...

I, since 2000 and what, three, four, whenever Wow came out, like, I was paying $15 a month back then. you know. But that's all your pay. You didn't pay $80 up front to own Wow and then had to pay that $15 Yes, you did. You paid.

Yeah, you had to buy Wow. It was like $40. Oh, it's way too. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Ace, you didn't know you had to buy World of Warcraft. What is wrong with people?

Why are you buying games and paying to play them longer? Ace, I don't know if you know this, but gamers are dumb. Yes, clearly. And I'm not saying the people out there are talking about. Oh my gosh. We are dumb. You bought the game. to have the game and then you played for the online

subscription. Josh did it also with EverQuest and then it went to Wow Elder Scrolls Online. This is why I play $20 Indie. Okay, so how do you expect them to maintain this world? Micro transactions.

Like everyone else. Those are used to not exist. They didn't exist. They didn't exist. They weren't a thing back then. You didn't have micro transactions. You're telling me the Lord of Greed, Blizzard didn't know how to do micro transactions. Not back then, dude. Nobody did.

No, nobody did. All right. It actually was just a monthly fee. How much did you pay to end up paying $15 a month? I don't know, 40 bucks or something. Can we go back in time and like, you know how they do it in Terminator where they take out the guy that came up with like, you know. Yeah. Can we do that with the guy that came up with micro transactions?

Like is that a thing where it's like. Nobody minded paying a subscription every month because you were playing this game for thousands of hours. You know what I mean? And it was worth the $15. and then somebody went, you know, if we just charge a dollar or two for every little thing, like, we'll actually make more. Hold on. Ace's back wall would like triple if there was no micro transactions.

Yeah, probably would. There would be so much. That's the other thing. This is the biggest game ever and there's no like collector's edition with a statue or anything. There's like no physical, no physical goodies for this game at all, which is crazy. Well, Ace, we don't have a trailer for this game. We don't have. Here is the last part of the rumor mills that we're going to talk about.

There is not a game play trailer that has been shown that shows GTA6 running on either the Xbox or the PlayStation guys. It doesn't exist. Now people are going to say, but we've seen gameplay. That was gameplay that was shown on a PC that they used to showcase the game to the world. You are not playing it on a PC. because it's not available on PC So nobody in the world Has seen GTA6 running on the PlayStation

Or running on the Xbox And that concerns me Like, Does that not concern you guys at all That we have actually not seen this game running? It's worried that we're this close To the release of the game And we haven't seen a thing

They don't have to. They don't have to. Okay, tell me what Rockstar is made. Let me suck on your toes. That's what you sound like. Yeah. Ryan is fully a remit. What has they made that has made you questioned what this game will be?

Ace, you hate AAA's. You refuse to play Red Dead for so long. I probably would have played it and you loved it. The one through three when those came out, if they were good, because I'd heard so many good things about those games. And then people told me they sucked. About what?

When they remastered Grand The Thalta one through three or whatever it was. Remember that that was the money grab. That was the, they were the terrible remasters. No, there's, there's, there's, I don't know of anything that I can think of, uh, offhand that, that, that rock star has done that I've been genuinely like,

man, that was bad. That was just bad. They haven't. They haven't. They, they've made, everything they've made has been good. Whether you like it or not, you know, it's been good and it's sold well. And it's, it's, it's, there's a reason they spent two billion dollars on this game. Like, so, you guys are,

nuts. You guys, Ace just wants to hate it. Ace is the indie guy at the record store. I don't like any of the practices that they're trying to bring into our industry. That's all the family. I and I agree with that. I totally agree with that. I think some of the stuff they're doing, I do not like. I do not like the no physical copies. I do not like hiding a single player content behind a paywall, maybe charging for monthly stuff. I wish they wouldn't. But if they do, I'm going to pay for it. And they know people will. It's all going to be worth it. It's going to all be worth it. The most pirate game of all time. It's going to be one of the best games of all time as well. Yeah.

Here's the thing. So, you know, we always say we're not industry people. We're gamers, right? And we are just like all of you out there. We're very excited. We do the dumb things that we complain about. Everybody complains about this stuff. But we're still buying GTA 6.

We're not saying don't buy GTA 6 because everybody in the world is going to be playing GTA 6. I personally think the game is going to be fantastic. I have said before there is a small chance that this game that they, you know, that they ruin certain aspects of this game by trying to put in political statements or something like that. I will say for me personally, and this is only Josh's take, if GTA 6 does not feel like a true next gen evolution to where it's like, oh my gosh, we've never seen this before or this is the most mind-blowing. graphics or the most realistic city I've ever seen in my life, they need to do that. Like, that to me is the is the calling card for Rockstar.

They've done it with Red Dead 2. They did it with GTA 5. Like, this is the thing that sets them apart. And if they don't do that with GTA 6, there is going to be a part of me that goes like, bro, I feel like they kind of dropped the ball on this because this doesn't feel like the next generation of game. You know what I mean at that point? I think GTA6 is probably going to be fantastic.

Will it be the highest rated game of all time? I don't know. Like honestly, I mean, on the one hand, I hope so. It won't. Because that means we all get a fantastic game. But on the other hand, there's people that just don't like GTA. And that's fine. Too many aces out there.

Too many people who like affordable games. But it's not for everybody, but there's no denying that GTA 6 will absolutely revolutionize the gaming industry of one way or the other. Whether it's everybody tries to jump on board with these. practices, the death of digital or physical media, because if GTA6 can get away with it, then we can get away with it. I think it's weird to have paid cosmetics in a single player game. That's not new.

That's not new. It's just weird to me, but I'm not a cosmetics guy. But like, if I was trying to wrap my head around paying for cosmetics, it's so that you can show it off to other people. Yeah, 100%. You know what I mean? So like, a single player game in cosmetics, it's whatever. It's 20 bucks.

It's like, okay, you know, and you don't have to pay for it if you don't want to. Optional. But there you go. What I would really like to see is the give me the 30 minute gameplay trailer, the game breakdown. We saw this with cyberpunk. And even though it was kind of a lie because that was running on like a NASA super computer. Yeah, that was.

Cyberpunk came out and gave us a 45 minute gameplay demo showcasing everything that got me beyond hyped. You know, and I really would like to see what GTA6 is actually going to look and play like at that point. and we don't have that yet. So that's the one thing I'm still kind of waiting on. Maybe it's that it's going to be the most mind-blowing thing we've ever seen. Do you need it?

Okay. Like give it to me. But do you need it though? I mean, I'm still buying the game regardless, right? Yes. So why would they do it?

Because to hype it, man. Type it. It's already sold like 40 million pre-orders, dude. It doesn't mean that they can just get a more hype. So, Ryan, you're telling me that if we never get, like, as, much as I know that you're excited and I'm excited. Yes. If you're telling me that November 18th is

rolling around because it releases November 19th and there has not been a single gameplay trailer for GTA6 that you're 100% okay with that. Yeah. I don't care. No. No. There's no way in the world. You are okay with never seeing the game. That's fishy. What does Rockstar ever steer you wrong?

Your hype and your fanboyism is blinding. No, it's truly are saying, Obviously, I would like to see more, but like after GTA 5 and Red Dead, why would I not trust them to make something? Knowing all the numbers behind it, they spent $2 billion making this game. They've delayed it for years to make sure that it was- Ubi-S.-A. Ubisoft was once king of the world. Lizard S once king of the world.

Bungi used to be a king, and now where are they? They got bought out by Sony and it went downhill. If you're telling me that you have so much blind faith in Rockstar that, like, there's no world. All giants must fall. Like, where you're just totally okay with never seeing a gameplay trailer for GTA6. I would like it. I would like it, but it's not going to change anything. And it's not going to change anything for you.

You would like it, but you're still going to buy it. Whether you own, whether you ran this podcast or not, you're still getting GTA. If I never saw a trailer for GTA 6, I ain't buying GTA 6. I can tell you that. No chance. Show me. No, no chance. Well, that's because you don't have a PlayStation.

We say this all the time. That's because you don't have a PlayStation. We say put your money where your mouth is. If you have a good game, show me your game. And tons of people have done that. And we go, bro, this game looks fantastic. Does Ferrari need to go show you their performance specs? No.

Oh my gosh. Their Ferrari, dude. Lamborghini. Fucking Ferrari. I'm probably not looking at anything other than the price. Okay. Well, you're not in their target demographic. Like, anyone that's going to buy GTA is just going to buy GTA.

And that's what it is. And obviously I would like all these things In the land of sunshine and rainbows I would like all of it to align with what we want And what we want to see But the bottom line is this game is going to cost this much And everyone probably but Ace would buy it Without any thought

I would not be buying Yeah And then you would miss out on one of the greatest games ever made Just like you did with Red Dead We gotta wrap this up Okay well one last thing Is completely in bed with Rockstar And has done

Like apparently is doing He's getting paid on the side. Ace is going to clip these and I'm going to get accused of being paid. Oh, absolutely. I'm accusing you. How much they paid you, Ryan? Apparently they're paying them in digital copies. Well, Ryan, I'll just send you an eBay link here so you can go ahead and pre-order your physical copy or your digital copy.

That's just a little above MRSP, you know, $240. It's all right. How stupid are people? Don't buy that. Don't do that, people. it's a digital edition there are people that are on eBay that are buying the pre-order

of GTA 6 for more than what you can pre-order GTA 6 for because they think that you can't get it otherwise and they're paying above the 7999 for this on eBay so much more above it's so bad hold on guys that makes me worry about humanity is this is this

is this real though like because I've seen a couple things to where Um, one of it is people are saying that it's just the scalpers that didn't realize that it was going to be digital only and then, and then when the way they did, they're re-bying their own stuff to make it seem like there's a demand. And then also I've seen things that the game is not distributed in certain countries. So people from those countries are buying the copies so that they can get a version of it. Um, but if people are actually genuinely buying digital only pre-order copy,

of a game for above MSRP, they deserve what they get. They deserve to lose their money. I'm dying. Presale. GTA6 Ultimate Edition PS5, $130. $130 plus $5 delivery fee from the Czech Republic. $5 delivery fee. Yeah.

I got to press that click button. Oh my gosh. That's crazy. That is everything GTA6 people. That is everything that we know up to this point. you know, we're excited for this. I'm right. Yeah, I pick on Ryan, but it's like there's no way I'm not playing GTA 6 the day it releases.

I was joking with my boss because my boss sent me the, the pre-order link. And I said, yeah, it's awesome. Like, I can't wait. And then I said, coincidentally, I'm going to need some time off in November. He laughed at me. You know, I'm very curious. I mean, I think the world is curious to see what rock stars been cooking. And I'm excited, man.

that's what gamers do. We get excited about releases. I will say I have a tiny, tiny bit of skepticism. Can they pull it off? Ryan, you've mentioned it. Rockstar has not filled us yet. So if they pull this off, they cement their place into making some of the best video games the world has ever seen. Unfortunately, that comes with some business practices that the world doesn't love, but we're all dumb and we love our video games and we're going to do it anyway, you know, because we want to play games. And that's what we want. We're willing to put up with some crap to do it.

When did this hobby get so expensive? Right. Yeah. I know, right? I know. So, all right, well, there you go, people. We hope you're excited for GT6. Let us know.

I mean, we started the show off by saying, hey, not everybody is excited about this. We want to know what you think. Even if you are not interested in playing GTA6, we want to know, do you think it's going to change the gaming industry? Do you think it's going to be the greatest game the world has ever seen? will it break sales records? Just let us know what you think about GTA6

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