Video Gamers Podcast - Hanging with the Hosts - Gaming Podcast

Episode Date: October 10, 2022

Gaming hosts Paul, Michael and Josh are back with another awesome Bonus Round gaming episode. This week we dive into listener questions in an AMA style episode. Want to know Josh's most embarrassing moment? What game made us emotional? What game made us rage break a controller or which food we’d remove from history? This is the gaming episode for you!   Thanks to our LEGENDARY supporters: MarbleMadness, Dr. Catatonic, Blackstar (DQ), Glapsuidir, Phelps, Michele B, Redletter, Nevo, Waynerman, TFolls, AceofShame, Jake, RangerMiller, and Ad   Connect with the show: Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/multiplayerpodcast Join our Gaming Discord: https://discord.gg/Dsx2rgEEbz Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/multiplayerpod/ Follow us on Twitter: twitter.com/MultiplayerPod Subscribe to us on YouTube: youtube.com/channel/UCU12YOMnAQwqFZEdfXv9c3Q Visit us on the web: multiplayerpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We are funded by our listeners, and you can support the show starting at $5 a month, which will give you access to two bonus episodes monthly. You can check it out at MultiplayerSquad.com. Okay, time for some introductions i am your host paul coming up first michael what weapon would be your preferred choice during a zombie apocalypse um i have this japanese uh katana inspired machete thing that's the best way to describe it uh it is very sharp on multiple like ends it comes to a square at the top and i feel like this thing is just gonna last forever and i feel like i can slice through the air like the air is butter except it's air is actually easier to cut through than butter but i think this is my weapon because i'm gonna get close and dirty and just you know it's small quarter combat oh

well we don't even have to go hypothetical you actually have your katana sword at the ready oh and i think he's grabbing it i want to see this because it's like oh okay it's not anything michael you did not even know i was gonna ask you this it's like japanese it's like it's a machete but it's like katana inspired. And this is really sharp. All right. Well, you can do some damage with that, Michael. You're ready. It's just a square machete.

How does that look like a katana? You'll have to come see. It's very heavy, but not as Japanese. Whatever. It's awesome. I just can't believe that Michael had no idea I was going to ask this. And he didn't even have to get out of his chair. It was literally within reach. Well, I don't have a gun at my desk.

So someone breaks into my house. It's either this or a starship enterprise, uh, putting, uh, iron. All right. Now Josh has an ax.

Apparently I'm the only one that doesn't keep me. Paul, where's your weapon? Yeah. Where's your really? I've got nail clippers. Oh, he does.

He's got nail clippers right now. Oh, I would run. If you came at me with nail clippers, Paul, he's got nail clippers right now oh it's gonna help i i would run if you came at me with nail clippers paul i would run in fear i'd hit him with the not katana this is crazy i can't believe you both have this at your desk all right and then you know joining us is josh josh what's the most embarrassing moment of your entire life oh man. Do we have time for this story? Is it family-friendly appropriate? It's kind of, sort of. Not really. Maybe a little bit. Let's just say that I was in college. I was coming down a stairwell to leave the building. My class was over. And a friend of

mine had said something down the hallway. And I looked down the hall, but I was leaning towards the exit door to like push the door open. So I wasn't looking the way I was going. And apparently I put my hand out to push the door open, but somebody had already opened the door and was standing in the doorway. Oh no. And instead of pushing the door, I straight up just put my hand straight on her chest. And I mean like just as, as bull bullseye as i could where it should not be and then i turned i looked and like it caught me off guard and there i am standing with my hand on this poor girl's chair and then i just like leapt back in like embarrassment there was probably four or five other people around that all saw it i was just mortified i was like oh my goodness i

am so sorry thankfully she took it you know really well and laughed and was like yeah it's okay but i don't think i've ever turned that shade of red in my life i actually think i have a similar answer to one of our questions today if we get to it too it's i don't get embarrassed easy i'm such a goofball that like i just don't care so it i don't really get embarrassed i think that one only embarrassed you because it involved another person. Yeah, exactly. That makes sense.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, how funny. All right. Well, this is a listener submitted questions episode. Believe it or not,

we have not done one of these in eight months. The last one that we did was actually before Michael officially joined the show. And, you know, we've done these from time to time. I think they are a great way for us to connect with our audience. And we've done these from time to time. I think they are a great way for us to connect with our audience. And we've even had some questions come in that were so good that we did

entire bonus round episodes on it. I remember Frodo Garfield asked, what are your top 10 individual games? We ended up doing a full hour on that on a separate episode. So what are you guys most excited about with these listener question episodes? I love just the fact that some of them are about gaming. Some of them are about us. I like that there's just such a variety of stuff. I mean, people out there that are listening to us hear us all the time, and we just hear each other talk. So it's not like we always get to hear from the listeners. So I feel like this is one of the few ways where the listeners actually get to kind of participate back. So I feel like this is one of the few ways where the listeners actually get to participate back.

And I really like that aspect of it. Yeah, very similar here. Two things, actually. Thing number one is I'm just excited that people care enough to ask us questions. It's very humbling that they want to know the answer to how we'd answer these questions. That's cool. It's nice to be cared about. The second thing that I'm excited about is just hearing whatever nonsense

comes out of your mouths and how I'm going to disagree with it. We also have some listeners that I think are, are, are trolls when they're throwing out some questions here. I really hope we get to some of these. They're not even all necessarily kind spirited, but we've got some questions here about like, if the other two hosts

were hanging on a cliff, which one do you save? So we've got some gaming-related questions. We've got some madness coming up. And the way we normally handle these is we just take turns picking a question we want to ask. We all answer it. If it requires some debate, we'll engage in some of that as well. And we'll basically just keep running until we've filled an hour of space. So we have fielded these questions from Discord. We have a free Discord. If you want to join, there's a link in the episode description. We also fielded questions on social media. So you can connect with us on Instagram, Twitter, or TikTok at MultiplayerPod. And basically, we just have a nice giant list of questions here.

Anything to talk about before we just dive right on in, guys? I just, if this is your first episode, don't tune out. I know a lot of times people are like, I don't know enough about this show to hear these guys answer questions. I promise it's going to be worth it. And what better way to get to know these strange voices than to find out whether I like mayonnaise on my french fries or not. Yeah, well said. That's true. Yeah,

it's funny because a lot of people are like, I don't know these people. I don't care what they have to say. There's going to be some video game funness and some wholesome awesomeness anyways. So just stick around. Yeah, we'll still have plenty of gaming questions here along the way as well. All right. Well, let's dive on in, on in boys josh you wanna take the lead and read the first one can i start off i'm gonna just pick on michael right away oh because i everybody knows i love picking on michael and he's such a good sport about it too i only pick on people that i like by the way michael so that should tell you something thank you my heart is warm. Have you ever had any kind of emergency or interruptions on the show?

I mean, I've come close a couple of times. And both times, in fact, it was two times that I almost number two'd. So two two equals twice the embarrassment. But no, I don't

think that I looked at it. I was close like twice. And it was funny no i don't think that i i looked at i was like i was close like twice and it was funny because i didn't think we ever like stopped the show ever and i think it was like four months into this we finished an episode at the end of the show i was like guys i'm so happy i i can't stick around i gotta go to the bathroom i think both you guys were like if you really have to go that bad you can just just tell us. And I'm like, okay, then I'm just going to do that next time because it's almost happened twice. We have lost an episode or two after recording. Oh, that's happened. Okay, yeah, we can talk about that.

Did you see Michael's face? That's why. I think the light bulb just went off. I was like, why is he picking on me with this one? Thanks for sharing your poop story, Michael, but that was really what I was getting at. Kicking it off with a hot log of doo-doo and also a C drive. Easily a C drive malfunction, right, guys? There was something wrong with the C drive.

So just to pick on Michael, I think we've all done this. I recorded from the wrong microphone one episode, and we didn't know it because we hear each other differently than how it actually records. And so this has happened to all of us. But most recently it happened to Michael because we recorded an entire episode. And then at the end, when we're saving our files to send to Paul to do the audio magic on it, Michael goes, uh-oh, guys. And that's never a good thing to hear, ever. And we're like, what do you mean, uh-oh? And he's like, my recording didn't save.

And we're like, what? Oh, it saved, but he said it was like four minutes long. Yep. So what happened, Michael? Well, apparently when I stage all my files on the recording software, and then I go and I ran them down to a wave file, I staged them also on my desktop, which is on my C drive. And there's four hard drives in my computer. The one that is by far

the smallest is the C drive. And maybe or maybe not, it had like, I don't know, 50 episodes on it. And it was completely full. Yep yep and there was no room for this episode i don't even remember what that episode was on did we record again the same night or did we push it for the next day we went to the next day and yeah because we were just like no man it was a long one too it was like oh it was a long one yeah i i really want to know what it was now too because then people could probably go back and listen to it and say like does this sound like it was re-recorded you know because the people will never know because we are professionals i know which one it was i know which one it was it was the either or episode because we changed a lot of the questions oh it was would you rather it was

would you rather that's right we did we came up with a lot of new questions on yeah the ones that fell flat so the ones that i asked we just picked new ones that's right you're totally right michael yeah at some point all of us have ruined one episode i completely ruined our episode of borderlands 3 which was with me josh and todd and the funniest thing is that todd famously always had his um his headphones super loud and so whenever i would hear his wave files i could very faintly hear me and josh like in an echo through his headphones and so when my file got ruined i just listened to todd's file at full volume wrote all of my lines and re-recorded them all in real time, because I didn't want Josh and Todd to have to re-record.

And I always said, like, I am not an actor by any means. I'm terrible at anything like acting. And that was my performance of the lifetime, because I thought it sounded good enough. It sounded very good. And I just sent clips to Josh. I'm like, can you tell? I could not tell, And I knew what happened. And so now that people are listening, go listen to the Borderlands 3 episode and see if you

can tell that Paul was acting out his responses for all of that. It was really well done, Paul. I have to go listen to that now. I got to hear it. That's brilliant. That's brilliant. Nothing makes you feel dumber than trying to fake laugh but make it sound genuine at things that you know are coming but it ended up working out okay so we've all done it at least

once oh what a good one though all right michael you want to take our next question here oh yeah easy easy uh do we say who asked the question, by the way? Because I have who asked this one. I forgot if we learned that. If you want to, you can give a couple shout-outs here or there. All right. Well, Wayno1 had a good question here. And I know the answer to this one, clearly. And I just want to know if you guys are wrong or not. But if the three of you were lost in the woods,

who would be the most likely to survive? This is a very easy one. Josh, go ahead. It's me. This is your time to shine, buddy. It's me. I feel like I'm the handiest of the bunch of us. I don't know how handy Michael is, but I'm a handy dude. And I love being in the woods, in the wilderness. So while I am no survivalist by any means, I would have no problem just chowing down on some beetles and some bugs

and stuff like that to stay alive. I feel like I do pretty well compared to like the both of you. And you pretty much watch nothing but survival TV, which I think has also prepared you. It does. Yeah, I could live at least a day or two before I die. He can make a rope out of some palm fronds and make a, I don't know, latrine? Whatever. Yeah, he's really good at that.

No, I actually think it probably is, Josh. Surprisingly, I am an avid camper, and I am a very roughneck camper when it comes to camping. I will go and I will have just my camping cot in a backpack where everyone else is bringing tents. I've camped by myself for two nights in the woods before uh middle of nowhere had no problem with it can start a fire with almost nothing however comma i think that because bugs eat me alive i would probably die real fast whether it was my own accord or not and also josh is more of a survivalist because he watches those tv shows yeah uh i am built for the city guys i hate camping i do

not like being outdoors i exclusively vacation in places like la and las vegas uh since we live in phoenix those are both just a short drive away so yeah i'm gonna be the first one to go for sure but i do like that question i also really like this is actually a two-parter question, because the same person submitted part two. If the three of you were lost in the woods, who would you eat first? Oh, I forgot about that. It's a two-parter. Can I just volunteer myself as tribute to help you two survive?

Because I'm fine doing that. I don't know, man. Michael looks pretty delicious, man. because i'm fine doing that i don't know man michael michael looks delicious man you know like put on a spit over an open fire hair we might be able to we might be able to make like a hat out of out of his beautiful flowing hair that he's got michael hat hair michael hair hat oh jeez um i first of all how dare you for asking this question um i i have no idea that's so weird i guess since paul volunteered i mean i would feel bad but we'd make it quick sure i'm fine with that i'll anything to help you to survive i'm fine with i feel like josh would be tough like i would

his meat would be like it's because i'm old isn this an age? Hey, beef jerky is delicious, Michael. It might be tough to eat, but it's delicious. Well, and also, honestly, we couldn't kill Josh because he's the one keeping us alive. So if Paul and I kill Josh, it's like... Good answer. We're going to die fast now because we don't know what we're doing. It'd be for nothing. Yeah.

Plus, you know, Josh, he wears shmedium shirts. I feel like there's just not a lot of meat you're not gonna get as good of yield no out of josh so it's gonna be lean he's gonna be like every bite's gonna be like filet though you know like it's gonna be like a filet like it's just very lean very neat but there's just not enough there you're like i'll take the ribeye yeah i was thinking more like turkey it's gonna be it's gonna be lean, flavorless. Dry old turkey. Dry. Turkeys? Going to need some gravy with that one.

All right, Josh, you get the next question here. Oh, it's my turn again? Okay, this one's... Here we go. So if... This one's an easy answer for me. So I will just ask, if you could remove one food from the earth, what would it be? Can I guess what your answer is, Josh?

Yeah. Is it mushrooms? That is very, very close. It's kind of like a 1A and a 1B, but I think there's one that I actually hate more than that. I have a little bit of a hot take on this. I don't want to remove any foods. All foods can be good if they're prepared correctly. But if I have to, I'm getting rid of squash.

I am not a fan of gourds. I hate pumpkin. I hate squash. Anything in that family, I tend to not like nearly as much as other things. So yeah, I'm going to get rid of squash if I have to. Even butternut squash? Yeah. I don't like zucchini and yellow squash.

I can tolerate them, but I've never eaten it and gone like, this zucchini is delicious. But butternut squash can be real good, man. Like in a soup or what? Yeah. I mean, do you use it for anything else? Not that I can think of. I don't think so.

Butternut squash is very one-dimensional food. Mine is eggplant. I cannot tolerate eggplant, dude. Oh my goodness, it is the most... I would say that or liver, but I don't think most people would think about liver. But my dad used to make liver when I was a kid. And to this day, I think I can still smell it

and know what it smells like. And I can taste it. Even though I haven't had liver in like 30 some odd years it's gross to me but eggplant overall it left that negative impression it really smelled 36 years later yeah that's weird you said squash though it's weird you said squash because I'm like you know I sure why not like I'm like I don't want to get rid of any food but like squash I'm never like oh, you know what I want with my steak tonight? Squash. I'm like, no, sure.

Get rid of squash. Mine was a little more oddly specific. I would get rid of fish sauce. And the reason why, the reason why is because if it's done right. Does it taste like fish? No, it really kind of doesn't. It's got kind of a weird flavor to it. It's more the smell.

Yeah. If it's done right, you'll never notice it's there. If it's done wrong, you never notice it's there if it's done wrong you want to throw the whole dish away and so i've gone to like korean restaurants or thai restaurants where they use a lot of fish sauce and i'll go and i'll be like i am so excited for this meal and i'll go there and i'll be like i'll take one bite and be like oh such a letdown because there's too much fish sauce and it ruins the whole meal so it's more that it ruins the meal than i don't like it it's it's fine but if there's too much of it it makes the meal trash i love that michael will roll the dice with fish sauce

where for me it's an instant no dog oh this looks great oh wait it has fish sauce never mind michael's like yeah give it to me maybe i'll try oh no this is terrible or yeah okay this is good yeah it's very easy to overdo it with the fish sauce. So I see what you're saying, Michael. That makes sense. All right, Michael, I think we are back to you. All right, so I have to ask this one. And we're promised we'll get to some video game questions soon, but this one I've just got to know the answer to.

If you were near a cliff and saw the other two hosts hanging off of it, who would you save? So the aforementioned troll question. I know my answer. Oh, you know your answer that I know my answer. Yep. All right. I would make love to Josh. I would marry Paul and I would murder myself.

I don't think that's the question. This took an offer.'s why you're in here do i get a say in this i do not consent is this what it takes for you to pull me up the cliff what's your best offer josh oh man okay i'm just letting go i'm letting go Christopher Josh. Oh, man. Okay. I'm just letting go. I'm letting go.

I can't even breathe right now. Oh, my goodness, man. My answer is easy. Neither one of you guys. You're on your own. Josh is going to just kick us both off. What about you, Paul? So we're all dodging this question?

All right. I'll give a true answer, and I'll explain why. This comes down to numbers, and it comes down to math. I'm going to save Michael only because he has kids that are a lot younger than Josh, and I feel like that would only be fair. So that way, Michael's youngest daughter, who is four years old, is going to have more time with him. That's the only reason.

I've also lived a longer life. That's a good answer. I've lived a longer life. You know, it's like I'm closer to death than Michael is. It's not personal. It's just math. Yeah, no, I agree with this answer. I thought you were going to take the math and say, well, Michael weighs about 15 pounds more than josh so josh is gonna be easier to pull up

therefore it's a number also josh my real answer is i'm saving michael because paul dissed me so you can just fall paul that's fair i accept a fair question out of the way oh man yeah i cable you are not kind for that question right but thanks for submitting it all right maybe we actually should get to a video game question here let's see what do we got how about has there ever been a video game that makes you so mad that you broke a controller or a keyboard or something like that uh does any racing game i've ever played count oh do racing games trigger you oh no i don't um i just they make me so frustrated because like you'll just like so close to checkpoint or like um maybe i can just specifically say like mario kart with my kids because i'm like why does the person in first place never get a heat-seeking shell?

They only get the banana peel. I'm always in first place the whole race, and then my kids hit me with this super shell, and I'm like, this is not fair. This is not fair. You don't like the built-in handicap. That's correct, yeah. And also, whenever I'm playing a racing game like that and I'm doing really well i start to get like really sweaty hands and then like right before the end of the game like if it's a serious racing game like gran turismo something like that i always like i'm i'm doing the best time ever maybe i'm gonna break the best record on my machine and then i know that at the

very end i'm gonna mess up because i get inside my own head and i miss a turn and i die or something like that so that's the only time i've ever gotten that frustrated with a game. What about you, Josh? I feel like we sort of talked about this on our rage quit episode, but that was a long time ago. It was. I'm trying to think. I mean, I have definitely gotten mad at certain games. I don't break things necessarily. I tend to whine like I'll just come on. that's so unfair, man. This game's cheating. That used to be one of my favorite lines. A lot of the old Nintendo games that were super hard. If somebody is cheesing something in a competitive game,

I do remember playing some fighting games and it's like there would be a combo that you couldn't break out of or something like that. And I'd just be like, learn some new moves, loser. Even though they're kicking my butt or something like that. And I'd just be like, learn some new moves, loser. Even though they're kicking my butt or something like that. I think in recent memory, because I've calmed down later in life, is the Ornstein and Smaug from Dark Souls 2. I've mentioned that once or twice,

but I think that's the most aggravated I have ever been at a game because I love a challenge and I love overcoming that and I could never beat those freaking losers yeah I've never thrown a controller I have definitely sworn to never play this game ever again with friends and the last one I can remember doing that was whatever Madden had Larry Fitzgerald on the front i think it was like madden 11 and i just remember by the way madden also famously really strong handicap so if you're up like four touchdowns you're just gonna start fumbling all the time to try to make the game close but i was playing with my buddy andrew and i was trying to call a fair catch and the game glitched and i was i was yelling out loud to my friend it's

not fair catching it and the second my guy caught the ball he intentionally hit the truck stick button my guy immediately fumbled the ball and uh i i just immediately turned off the xbox and said i'm never playing madden again and that's probably the closest you would get to me uh rage quitting and getting really mad at a game. So that's the best one. Did you ever play it again? No. I don't think so.

I don't think I did. Paul is a man of his word. If I say I'm out, I'm out. Yeah. All right, Josh, back to you. All right, we'll keep it gaming related here. What are the most emotional games that you've ever played? Ooh, I like that one.

I like this one. I think there's an easy answer, but I'm going to go... For me, the easy answer on this one is the Telltale Walking Dead series. We've talked about that. That game just really punches you in the gut, pulls on your heartstrings. I really liked firewatch paul i know you don't agree with that but i felt like there was something about firewatch that really just kind of pulled you into the the story between the like your main character and delilah um outer wilds outer wilds is another one paul i know you don't agree with that one either but when you make it to the end of outer wilds there is uh that's a really really phenomenal like get your emotions going ending as well so those are probably my top three i didn't know i didn't know we were also covering most overrated

games oh that's a different question that's the one just cue what josh just said for me what about you michael what comes to mind with emotional gaming so i also had last of us on here um just because the opening scene and so forth telltale's walking dead but oddly enough um i have two on here which because i'm like emotional it doesn't have to be necessarily like an emotional story game i have world of warcraft on here just because like the emotions of like the high of like we beat the lich king me and ten of my friends or nine of my friends getting so excited about it after beating our faces against those fights for a week in a week out a very positive emotion but actually my really

one of my number ones is a very old game gears of war two surprisingly enough because like you spend like the first half of the game kind of from dom's perspective trying to find his wife maria and when you find her it is devastating and i don't know if we're in spoiler territory or not or if there's a deep dive go for it yeah okay so so you spend you spend so long like he's got this picture of her and he's looking at it and you know it's him and her i'll always be with you dom love maria will you find her and she has been turned into one of these like zombies kind of as an experiment and he basically has to kill her and like he's a mess and it's it's right before act three i think and it was just very powerful um that that it went that way and it's kind of funny because i bought the special edition uh the metal tin cover.

And the game was designed that when you open that, one of the special features you get is an actual hard copy of that photograph and it falls out on the ground as you open it. And you look down, you're like, I wonder what this is about. And in that game, that's kind of how it happens is he's so despair, he shoots her, the photo falls to the ground. It's a very way to tie real life into the game. But it was very emotional. i i still to this day would like to go back and play that game if it was playable it's kind of really not but and go cry to that part that's some really clever packaging you got to give them credit yeah it was well done yeah yeah very clever uh for me the first thing that came to mind was brothers a tale of two sons you know really play on this whole theme where the kid's dad dies and the two brothers go on this long journey and uh was it their dad who dies or their mom i don't remember

anyway mom maybe the mom dies and then the dad gets sick or something yeah and then they're out trying to get like a potion to save their dad and And since we're in spoiler territory with these games, what ends up happening is the whole game, you're using both kids. So like on a controller, you've got your two thumbsticks that control the two brothers and you use different buttons, like the triggers for the two different kids to do things together as a

team. And at the end of the game, the older brother dies. And so it's just the younger brother by himself. So you've got all of this grief and loss, and it's a pretty heavy game. Plays on some really mature, grieving kind of themes. And that one, to me, has a really both beautiful but also really sad ending. And I think anyone who's played Brothers absolutely loves that game it's always like three dollars highly recommend playing it if you never have it really is it's a

good memorable game and you're right you can get it like super cheap now too yeah all right well we are going to take a short break and we will be right back with some more multiplayer gaming podcast this is an ad from better help online. We always hear about the red flags to avoid in relationships, but it's just as important to focus on the green flags. If you're not quite sure what they look like, therapy can help you identify those qualities so you can embody the green flag energy and find it in others. BetterHelp offers therapy 100% online and sign up only takes a few minutes. Visit betterhelp.com today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp, H-E-L-P dot com.

Okay, we are back. Michael, I believe it is. Oh, wait, who asked the last question? Was that you, Michael? Oh, that was Josh. No, it was me. It was Yeshua. We're back to you.

All right. So, if you could remove one video game from the earth what would it be is this where we all just say fortnite game yeah i i can answer if you want because i had mine pretty quick i would say fallout 76 because it was the first time that i think to me bethesda became fallible before that i had left all their games i was all about them looked forward to fallout 76 picked it up was so disappointed by it i was like i'm not sure if i can ever play a bethesda game again because i was so disappointed by how mishandled it was and then also it's the one that currently creates a doubt in my mind about starfield fair enough yeah i think i will just give the easy answer of Fortnite. I think because of

its immense success, everybody thought they needed to put a Battle Royale in their game. And we started getting Battle Royales in Call of Duty, and now we're even seeing rumors Battle Royale is coming to Overwatch 2, or maybe that's even confirmed. But I feel like Fortnite was just too successful, and it kind of just kind of changed the gaming industry in a lot of ways to maximize on that success and i kind of feel like every game tried throwing in the same features and i think it's kind of stymied creativity in gaming so i'll just say fortnight my answer is going to shock you guys and it's going to get deep for just a second but it's everquest believe it or not now i know that's going to come you guys, and it's going to get deep for just a second. But it's EverQuest.

Believe it or not. Now, I know that's going to come as a huge shock because I have very, very fond memories of EverQuest. Michael looks very sad right now. I'm going to cry. EverQuest did two things. Number one, it consumed my life for multiple, multiple years. I played that game way more than was healthy for any normal person to play.

It was bad. You hear about those people that play a game for like 12 hours a day, every single day. That was me for years on EverQuest. And so that was probably not the most healthy thing for, for me or, you know, my, my wife at that point. But that said, the other reason is because I have been chasing that feeling that that wonder of going into your first mmo since everquest and if i had never played everquest i have to wonder would i would i like i wouldn't have that feeling to chase at that point so would that then by nature kind of elevate everything else up you know what i mean at that point it's like, I don't know that I'll ever recapture that sense of wonder and awe of like diving into your very first MMO.

And so as much as I love my memories with that game, I would say that I'm probably better off if I had never actually played it. So better to have never loved than to have loved and lost. Is this what you're saying, Josh? I mean, I don't think I subscribe to that. You know what I mean? Because I, but it's just, yeah, I think I would say like, I wonder like if my gaming,

like if my just baseline for gaming would be different on what games I like and what games I don't like would be different because it's kind of like everything has fallen short since then with the exception of like a very, very few games. You know what I mean? So I don't like would be different because it's kind of like everything has fallen short since then, with the exception of a very, very few games. You know what I mean? So I don't know. That's tough. But I think that I would say that would be the one that I would kind of wipe from existence. Yeah.

When you said EverQuest, I was thinking it was going to go one of two ways. Either one, you wanted that countless thousands of hours back to do something else, even though you liked it, but you know, you were a youthful lad at the time, or if it was what I was hoping it was, which is exactly what you said, because it's, it's on the nose.

Like, well, every, well, anything ever capture that again, but a layer within that too, is what if you had never played EverQuest? Would you feel the same way about World of Warcraft?

Like as the, as now that MMO that you compare all to. And I think a lot of people do, to be honest, because I mean, I know like Paul's super big into WoW. Has anything ever captured you the same way that WoW has?

No, and not even close. Right. Not even remotely close. Right, exactly. And that's the thing. And so it's like, I know we all love MMOs and I'm definitely at a point

where I could play one, no issues now or anything like that. But it's almost like it kind of ruins it a little bit. You know what I mean? So I don't know. It's a tough question, but that would be my answer, I think. Do you think in our lifetime we'll see a jump in gaming that provides that feeling again,

whether it's something through VR or something similar to like brain dances in cyberpunk where it's like you're actually living it in your brain and it's not even on a screen. I do wonder if we'll see something like that, maybe 20, 30 years down the road where maybe we'll get another big jump in gaming. I think like you'd have to have like the oasis from ready player one, you know,

it would have to be, you know, and I don't think it's going to be the metaverse to be honest with you, but I do think it would have to be something where it's such a large leap to where the interaction with people is is almost almost like realistic instead of that virtual like avatars waving at each other like that's really cool but the novelty wears off really fast but i would think yes i mean we're always innovating as people so i i want to say yes yeah i'm really curious to see where gaming goes even like 50 years down the road it's going to be so different all right well let's move on to

the next question here all right here's one that i really like i don't know about you guys and i i am revising it a little bit so this one came in from legendary jake he asked us to list our top five disney movies that that seems a little much how about just our number one what is your guys favorite disney movie or do you have one disney movie um probably the lion king it's absolutely the lion king for me oh well i i have no idea um i recently i really like jungle cruise but the only reason the reason why i like jungle cruise is a really yeah it's a really stupid reason why is because the soundtrack in that movie is phenomenal the way that uh they melded melded uh james newton howard's like metallica esque score with like the big reveal in the movie having it be metallica's nothing else matters but that's

also the score of the movie is metallica's nothing else matters i don't know i've never thought of that before um but maybe maybe the lion king since that seemed like a popular hit oh i love the lion king now granted i was the right age when it came out so i was 10 years old i remember seeing it in theaters and it has one of my all-time favorite movie scores so hans zimmer is the one who wrote all the music and the scene at the end of the movie when simba's gone on this full journey and he's got all of this self-doubt all of this guilt over the death of his father and then walking up pride rock to take over as the new leader and when that music kicks in it's incredibly epic it is one of my all-time favorite scenes now i'm going to assume that we're talking about

cartoons and disney in the traditional sense because if we're talking like recent Disney, then like Avengers, Infinity War and Endgame would be my favorites. Technically, that's Disney, but I don't think that's in the heart of the question. Yeah, I would still go Lion King anyway. Every once in a while, I'll make a list of my top 10 favorite movies. And sometimes Lion King sneaks in there like eight, nine or 10. If I've seen it recently, I'll put it in there. I really love Lion King a lot. I think a lot of people my age would also say Aladdin. I think that's my wife's favorite, but that one pops up a lot. Finding Nemo would be my second favorite Disney cartoon.

All right, coming back to you, Josh. You got our next question ready? Oh, boy. Let's see here. This will be a very, very quickfire one. Is it acceptable to dip French fries in mayonnaise? Let's see here. This will be a very, very quick fire one. Is it acceptable to dip French fries in mayonnaise? The answer is no, you heathen.

That's disgusting. Get out of here with that nasty condiment. Now, Michael, you can make your case for me. Michael's like, why do I need the fries? I was going to say, is it acceptable to dip fries in anything but mayo is the better question. Yes, of course it's acceptable. It's even fantastic and wonderful. So yes.

Dude, it literally, the thought of that makes me nauseous. And I do not get nauseous very easily at all. The thought of it makes me want to go get some now. Are you a ketchup fan, Josh, or do you see them playing? No, I like barbecue or honey mustard or some other like flavor to dip like ketchup's fine like i don't have anything against it but i just prefer

like stronger flavors um and so i usually wind up dipping my french fries in like honey mustard or barbecue sauce i gotcha i would actually edit my answer and say to be honest with you it is acceptable to do it but i really prefer my fries plain. No, really. I, I, I just want the French fry. I'm all about that ketchup. Yeah.

Give me ketchup all day. I would not dip fries in Mayo unless that Mayo was mixed with ranch seasoning and milk. I, I would not mind fries in ranch. I do not want it in plain Mayo. Absolutely not. Not my cup of tea. No.

All right. Well, Michael swinging back to you next question all right so on this one you know what let's do uh let's do another quick one um here it's a make love marry murder um pc console and board games i think we're all fans of all three we are yeah absolutely um i know my answer go for it i would marry pc gaming make love to board gaming and murder console gaming yeah that's where i'm at also i feel like we're in agreement a lot this episode josh it's kind of scaring me paul yeah a little bit we've been recording too long just you just just throw one more elite dangerous question on top of this and your love fest will flourish forever um i'm a little bit different i'm close marrying pc gaming um oh you know what it's not make love marry murder it's a keep trade god i read it wrong oh both both questions same thing okay because i was gonna say i would i would probably murder board gaming the reason being is because i feel like

people huh michael no it's actually it's actually it's actually for a more opposite i'm lazy i'm lazy and you can play almost any board game on a pc or a console and so i get the best of all worlds and i don't have to worry about losing all the monopoly money or the little shoe or anything like that because it's on the tv we're good to go done all right first of all uh i love board games and i'm talking about good board games yeah i mean monopoly is fine but my son james has really gotten into board games and i'm talking about good board games yeah i mean monopoly's fine but my son james has really gotten into board games lately and so we've been playing terraforming mars josh you and i have played that game together in the past uh gloomhaven we've been getting into again with me and my kids i love a good board game the number one thing though is just the setup and the tear

down like i used to play a lot of gloomhaven with Josh and Todd when he was on the pod. And I would have to set up for a good 45 minutes before Josh and Todd would come over because it was that much work. And then we would all help tear it down, which is a little bit quicker. But it's got that element of work to it when you're playing board games that have a thousand pieces. This is exactly what it's like on this podcast. You spend 45 minutes to four hours building it up, and then Josh and I tear it down. It's very true. There is a lot of that.

Sorry, Paul. It's a good metaphor. All right. Well, rest in peace, console games. They're getting murdered by me and me and Josh. Yeah. All right. Next question here. The way this one's worded did by me and me and Josh. Yeah. All right. Next question here.

The way this one's worded did kind of make me chuckle. This one came in on social media. Could you give us an update on Todd? How's he doing? Does he listen to the show? Does he try to give you guys input about the show? Or is he just like, forget you guys.

I mean, in all honesty, I think he's like, just forget you guys. Only in regards to the podcast. Not life yeah not in life i just mean when it came like when todd left the podcast he just left the podcast like i don't think he listens i i don't think he cares one bit i think he just kind of went yeah i'm done with that and and that was that you know we are still friends in real life. We play games together. Play Overwatch 2 together.

Yeah, exactly. So there is absolutely zero ill will or any of that stuff there. But strictly for the podcast itself, I think Todd is just out. Yeah, and sometimes people ask because they missed when we talked about it on the show, but he moved to the other side of the country

to be near his family. And between the time zone and the fact that Todd and his wife Bonnie had just had a baby, it just made it too hard for him to play games. And I think it was like he took a long leave of absence while trying to adapt. And eventually he was kind of like, you know what, this just isn't really working. And so, you know, Josh and I kind of left that door open, but I don't think Todd really turned around to look at the door. I think he was just kind of out. But yeah, we absolutely are still friends with Todd. He's also my brother-in-law. So it would really be bad if we were on bad terms. We're very close. I think it's funny. I've actually only met

Todd in real life a couple of times. I played games with him several times. But I think if I were to actually say anything to Todd, I think I would say thank you. Thank you for leaving because I enjoy this so much. I love being here. And it's like, thank you for leaving so that I could show up. I will say this too. I love the fact that there's

people that have been with this show long enough to remember Todd. You know what I mean? I mean, honestly? Like that's actually like, I mean, honestly it's, but that's a, like,

that's a great thing to know is like that we have fans out there that have been such long time listeners that they remember the days of Todd. You know, they think like, Hey, how's he doing? That kind of stuff. It's just really neat to me.

Yeah. And, and like we always say, we have to give Todd credit. Todd was the one who actually made me and josh show up and start recording yeah so he was the one who took it from a hypothetical to okay well this friday we're gonna meet at this time and let's record and you know that's how the whole show started so he deserves all the credit i will say i was cursing todd when i had to sit

down and play elite dangerous and go go, Todd, you did this. Why couldn't Todd still be here? This is your fault, Todd. How dare you? I would never be playing this game if it wasn't for this podcast. If we had Todd, though, he'd be making us play the old Halos still. Oh, that's true. Yeah.

All right. Well, I think that's it for my question here. Coming back to you, Josh. Oh, boy. Okay. Man, apparently there are a lot of food questions in here they're all food i'm trying not to pick all food every question is about food hungry when they were writing in right i i do like this question this is a good one what is the game that you have spent the most amount of money on oh that's that's world of warcraft now absolutely okay besides that because

i my initial thought was well for the years that i played everquest at 15 bucks a month that's probably but take the mmo out of it what is the next game in line it's 4 000 games tied for 60 dollars each really i don't think i i don't think there's a game I've ever spent more than $60 on other than WoW. Hearthstone for me. Oh, by those packs? In the heyday of Hearthstone, dude, they'd get me, man. We don't like cosmetics. I don't buy battle passes. I have tipped the makers of Rocket League with buying some keys back in the day when you had to open the chests and stuff, you know, as just like a thank you. But dude,

Hearthstone in its heyday, when I was really into it, I would spend $20 to buy however many packs I was 10 packs or whatever it was. And then I wouldn't get anything. And then I'd be like, I mean, what's another 20 bucks,

man. You know, so then I'd do another 20 and then I was like, okay, I get a card. I want, it's like, all right,

cool. That that's $40, man. I would do that. that like you know not like all the time but way more often you know in hindsight than i probably realized too so hearthstone probably got a good 300 dollars out of me over like the course that i played it I would like to defer my answer and not answer. I feel like Michael's got some game that's like $800, and I would not be shocked. Oh, no, I bet it's more than that.

No, actually, I don't know if it was that much, but it might be. And it's also World of Warcraft, but it's not because of the monthly subscription. It's because they changed mining sometime after Wrath and made it very difficult for me to use my original primary source of income. And I like having a lot of money in games. I like to be able to be like, hey, if I want this thing and it's tradable, I can just go buy it. And so I was like,

you know what? Looking at my budget monthly, and if I can get myself to not buy but go ahead and buy multiple of those coins that you could buy for platinum in-game per month not per year and i would do that i was spending like 50 bucks a month on in-game gold not the illegal way like that wow doesn't want you to do it but by buying those like 15 coins that would allow you to get like 30 000 platinum or gold or whatever it was you know what i mean and either that it's probably also tied with overwatch loot boxes because i'm a skin uh fanatic so yeah i bought a lot of loot boxes i was gonna say i might hold the record for most money with world of warcraft only because it was 15 a month over the course of like eight years

i remember at one point and this was pretty early on i did the math and i was like i've spent four hundred dollars already on world of warcraft and that was like the first or second expansion like that adds up fast and if you play a game like that for years it's a lot of money i didn't think about the dlcs because they charged for those were they full like sixty dollars for the dlc 30. I think they're usually 30 or 40. Yeah. On top of the subscription fee though. Well,

they would give you one month of free subscription with the, the new expansion. Oh, how generous. Yeah. So you got to save that 15. Yeah. But you put your credit card info in first.

So it auto charges. You can't cancel it. You know, one of those things. Yeah. All right. I think that was josh's question are we back to you michael see uh i cannot i i i cannot let the podcast go without

asking this question because i'm really curious what your answers are um what is the most unexpected and jaw-dropping cut scene you can think of in a game this one made me think i saw this question and i had to actually stop and be like uh like there's a lot of them but then i started thinking like jaw-dropping cut scene like man that's tough like there's moments in games you know but cut scene alone and then it hit me return to sender from halo 2 okay where. Where the Master Chief takes the Covenant bomb, that big, weird-looking, spiky bomb, coffin-looking thing, and he takes it out into space and goes dive-bombing through this huge space battle

going on between the UNSC and the Covenant. And that whole thing at the time was bananas. Number one, the technological aspect of all of that was really astounding at the time was bananas. Number one, the technological aspect of all of that was really astounding at the time. And it was just awesome, man. It was like there's space cruisers getting blown up. It's like explosions and all this stuff going on. And there's Master Chief with this big bomb

and he's taking it back to the Covenant. And you're like, yeah! That was a really, really good one. I really did. I need to play more Halo games because I've heard a lot of really cool moments from those. I just never played them. The old ones are kind of tough to play now.

I was going to say, you'd have a harder time. You kind of miss that window on those. Let's get a remaster. Halo Infinite is really good. The campaign of that's really good. And it's like six hours. It's pretty short, but it's fantastic. If you have a good answer for this, Michael, I'll just jump in and go in the middle because I don't have a great answer. I think I might have set my new personal record of not bringing up Mass Effect in an episode, go Renegade Shepard, there's a scene that I find very upsetting,

where over the course of the last two Mass Effects, Morden, who is a scientist, has come to terms with the fact that he has created something that was not okay morally, basically to stop the violent Krogan from giving birth. He creates something called the genophage, which causes them to not be able to give birth, and it's to control the Krogan numbers. And he realizes later in his life that that was wrong, that he did not have the right to do that. And so he figures out a way to cure it. And so you go with Morden to the Krogan home planet, and he says he's gonna go disperse

this through the atmosphere and it's gonna cure the genophage and if you're a renegade shepherd he pulls out his pistol shoots and kills morden every time we've talked about this before you've defended the genophage hell i had to talk you into saving malan's data how can you change your mind now i made a mistake i made a mistake focused on big picture big picture made of little pictures too many variables can't hide behind statistics and it's just like very dark and bleak and morden is my all-time favorite video game character and so i find it very upsetting to like watch that oh man yeah um so for me that's that's what i'll pick you can go look it up if you want shepherd shoots morden and i'm sure it'll pop up i might just save that so that i can play

it and see it or and get more of the depth from it because it sounds pretty disturbing but i don't know if i'll play renegade shepherd though so yeah nice shepherd is uh paragon shepherds the way to go that's nice uh mine is really um i i took a while like joshua as well um to think of mine and then it hit me and then i had to go and make sure this actually was a cut scene and not just a part of a game but it's absolutely a cut scene and it's the vader reveal in jedi fallen order because you're there dude and and like you're talking to the seventh sister, and she becomes on her side. I changed my answer to that one. I forgot about that. Yeah, but you hear the faint like,

and you're like, oh, did I hear that? Because at first it's so quiet. You're like, did I hear that? You have failed me, Inquisitor. Avengers. And then he comes rising up and then what happens afterwards of course is you know he she's like avenge me and he just he just mows her down just cuts her in half with one lightsaber strike and then your like mentor friend who i forget her name but she's another jedi mentor of yours she goes running towards vader and with a flick of her wrist he just sends her over the edge of this crevasse

or whatever and it's like it's insane because it just shows like wow like vader's here and he is how he should be super powerful now after that it's a series of quick time events and so forth but it sets it up for the the final act of that game and it shows you what you should see in a game you should not be a jedi apprentice going toe-to-toe with vader probably no jedi he is the most powerful jedi or sith there is period and the rest of the game you're literally just running away from him and it but it sets it up so well that you see it like that and i'm like that it's perfect that's such a good answer i actually nominated that exact thing in Best Gaming Moments,

one of the deep dives we did. I can see that. It's hard to explain, but when you go through Jedi Fallen Order, your guy gets stronger and stronger, and you start becoming this true Jedi, and you just think, like, I'm bad now, man. Look at all this. And then you come up against Vader at the very end of that,

and you realize you are an insect. Yeah. And all the people around you are insects, too. And it was such an awesome moment. So kudos to you, Michael, because I think that might be one of my favorite, actually. Good one. Yeah. Very nice.

All right. Let's bring it back to food, because why not? All right. This one requires that all three of us come to a consensus so we've got a this is never here's the rest we got here's the rest of the show we got to do some you know leaderboard consensus here uh best let's instead of saying three best flavors of ice cream let's just say one all right as a group what can we agree as a consensus is the best flavor of ice cream mint chocolate so it can't

be obscure i was gonna say mint chocolate chip too michael do you not like how what is happening tonight it's like my least favorite i can't least favorite what's your yeah what are your top two or three michael well they're it's pretty obscure. I love butter pecan. My all-time favorite. And then I'm a vanilla enthusiast. Like, here it is. I love vanilla. And then maybe chocolate chip cookie dough. But mint chocolate chip is, like, far, far down on my list.

I don't think of it as even ice cream. Like, it's minty. No. Go away. Okay. So, butter pecan, vanilla, and what else did you say? Maybe like cookie dough. I mean, cookie dough is okay.

So he likes the plain, like boring ice creams. Kind of, yeah. All right, if mint chocolate chip's not available, I would nominate coffee or chocolate. We're going to have to go somewhere in that realm. Coffee ice cream is deceptively good and yet very underappreciated. It's underrated.

If I can say the Jamocha shake from Arby's counts as coffee ice cream, I am on board. I'll allow it. It's a coffee. They call it a coffee ice cream. The problem for me is I like your really wild flavors and I like to chew my ice cream. So I want eight mixing different pieces of candy and like brownie bites and

Heath bar and stuff like that in my ice cream. Now I just spot, I don't know what evil individual came up with putting gummy worms in ice cream or gummy. That person needs some psychological help because that is the worst thing I've ever seen people put in ice cream. But yeah, I like just tons of stuff in mine. Like moose tracks?

I like moose tracks, which is weird. I don't want the just big chunks of chocolate candy. There's actually one called Monster Cookie that my wife gets. Yes, I've had it. Tell them Luke makes it it's got like five different pieces of cookie plus like reese's pieces in there and and and little pieces of peanut butter cup and like all this other stuff it's phenomenal it's a good one yeah i feel so bad because if i would have just been apathetic and been like yeah sure mint chocolate chip then we'd have moved on but i'm

like absolutely no no mint chocolate chip well it sounds like you're a fan of mocha so maybe like a chocolate coffee ice cream sure is that close enough can we say that with it i like it yeah i'd be okay with it i wouldn't i wouldn't go to bed crying if we have to go on a consensus and we're all like hey guys we all have to get one ice cream i think we would all be like sure this one sounds really one ice cream now. My favorite, which they don't make anymore, was Baskin Robbins. It was French vanilla coffee. And it was like half French vanilla, half coffee. And that was so good.

There is one, actually. Turkey Hill. It has to be that specific brand. Chocolate peanut butter. It's the most amazing. I don't know what they do, but it's got these actual veins of peanut butter through it. And then the chocolate ice cream is like a malty type chocolate. Let's go with that one.

It's probably my favorite ice cream flavor ever. I've never been more excited than hearing veins of peanut butter. I'm on board. I'm actually eating these Tillamook ice cream sandwiches right now, and one of them is a chocolate peanut butter, and it's got these peanut butter veins in it. So I'm like, yep, I'm all board. I'm actually eating these Tillamook ice cream sandwiches right now. And one of them is a chocolate peanut butter and it's got these peanut butter veins in it. So I'm like, yep,

I'm all about that. Yep. I'm texting my wife right now. I know I'm eating healthy, but I need, I need Turkey Hill chocolate peanut butter. Yeah. All right.

That's all the time we have today, guys. We're all right into the store. We'll see you later. We actually really are actually out of time. So that's very good timing michael yeah as a reminder to everyone out there you know come come join us on discord it's totally free we'd love to connect with you guys we'd love for you to give us questions to answer in the future we'd love for

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Monday is... No. Well guys Monday is no well Monday is this and then it's the cyberpunk idiot yeah this is Monday so our next episode will be on like what day is it yeah I got ice cream on the brain so Thursday we will be back with a twig episode for this week

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this podcast with a friend today yeah we'd love we'd love it if you do that we would love that and as a closing tip do not stand on the edge of a cliff with Michael, or you might find yourself in a tough spot. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Look at you. Don't look at me like that, Michael. His eyes were so big.

I was like, it's more of a joke about just how you know. All right, let's get out of this show, guys. We'll see you later. Cheers, all. See you next time. See you, everybody. is off see you next time see you everybody