Video Gamers Podcast - Mice, Blades, And Knights – The Indie TWIG Roundup - Gaming Podcast

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

Gaming hosts Josh, Ryan, and Ace are diving into another jam-packed Indie TWIG full of fresh gaming news and creative indie surprises! From the brand-new Shovel Knight collaborations shaking up the in...die scene to the detective charm of Mouse PI, the prehistoric chaos of Dinoblade, and the mysterious world of Far Far West — there’s plenty to talk about. We’re breaking down what makes these projects stand out, why they’re capturing the gaming community’s attention, and how they’re redefining what’s possible in indie video games. It’s a conversation packed with passion, predictions, and plenty of laughs. If you love indie gaming and want to stay ahead of the next big video games making waves, this episode’s for you. Tune in to the Video Gamers Podcast for all things indie, creative, and unforgettable!   Mouse PI release date https://youtu.be/4vm7bHKIoI8?si=2d-1sR-wqYLP9qMv Shovel knight collabs with Crypt and Rift of the Necrodancer https://youtu.be/FBiZNLWen70?si=p-Mekq63h5XY9aaD Dinoblade https://store.steampowered.com/app/3440070/Dinoblade/ Dark Light Survivor https://store.steampowered.com/app/3088070/Dark_Light_Survivor/ EXEKILLER https://store.steampowered.com/app/1701840/ExeKiller/ Far Far West https://store.steampowered.com/app/3124540/Far_Far_West/ 13z The Zodiac Trials https://store.steampowered.com/app/2348250/13Z_The_Zodiac_Trials/     Thanks to our MYTHIC Supporters: Redletter, Disratory, Ol’ Jake, Gaius, Jigglepuf, Phelps and NorwegianGreaser   Thanks to our Legendary Supporters: HypnoticPyro, PeopleWonder and Bobby S.   Connect with the show: Support us on Patreon: ⁠patreon.com/videogamerspod⁠ Join our Gaming Community: https://discord.gg/vUzjAZBV Follow us on Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/videogamerspod/⁠  Follow us on X:⁠ https://twitter.com/VideoGamersPod⁠  Subscribe to us on YouTube:⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@VideoGamersPod?sub_confirmation=1⁠    Visit us on the web:⁠https://videogamerspod.com/⁠   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 to the video gamer's podcast. We have got an awesome week of indie news just for you. Mouse P.I. is going to release. Shovel Nights dropping the beat. And a quick look at five upcoming titles spanning cyberpunk, sci-fi, and Chinese peaks. I am your host, Ace. And joining me, he's taking up his shovel and bopping baddies to the beat.
Starting point is 00:01:23 It's Josh. I just, I just came up with that riff all by myself on the spot. Wow. I hope you trademark it. All right. It's, we always talk about good music is in indie games.
Starting point is 00:01:42 We can confirm Josh is not in an indie game. Also, I beat box that, everybody. That was right off the riff, man. And not even a cyberpunk dystopia will stop him from becoming a cowboy. It's Ryan. Oh, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, oh, no. Hey, that's copyrighted, Ryan. What the heck, man?
Starting point is 00:02:03 Hey, Ryan. Bro, you owe me five cents. Five cents. Wow. That's my royal winner. I guess the penny doesn't exist anymore, so it has to be five cents. I feel like Ryan's brain wanted to go to like a yehaw or like cowboy kind of thing. And then he was like, no, I'm just going to do something.
Starting point is 00:02:21 You disappoint me, Ryan. I was expecting a good old, a good old yehaw. Hall or so couldn't even give me that fellas we have looked at November November is barren so I have to look even further off to see what we have coming is even the indies aside from Constance indies are very far and few between right now there's good ones at least sorry sorry other indie developers it might be dropping a game in November so I wanted to start with some indie news on a game we've talked about for mouse PI. Do you guys remember mouse PI? Yes, absolutely. It is the 1930s rubber hose
Starting point is 00:03:03 hand-drawn FPS boomer shooter starring a mouse or you know, we'll just call them a rat because that's the whole thing on this show is I love games with rats. No way, Ace, I do you differentiate between mice and rats? Uh, depending. Like, we know you love rats, but like is a mouse like inferior to a rat in your mind? It's not a deal breaker. Okay. In every sense of the meaning. But not the same. Rats are just a lot more. But it's kind of less than a little bit. Right. Yeah. It's just like a little less. Like, Mina is a mouse, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:35 Reggie from Tales of Iron is a rat. Okay. I love them both equally, I think. Anyway. He doesn't love them. He doesn't love equally, right? He's trying to be all correct. I love rats. Okay. A mice are fine, but I love rats. A rat could beat up a mouse. Well, that's just, I mean, that's the superior creature, right?
Starting point is 00:03:54 So it's okay, dude. Yeah. Yeah, because rats are like two times the size of mice. Have you ever seen a New York rat, bro? Oh, have you seen? All right, just a quick aside. Have you guys, can get them off track? He's like, before recording, he's like, guys, we're short on time. We can't get off track. It was so easy. It was the easy. Have you guys seen the video of the rat in the New York subway carrying away an entire pizza? No, but have you seen the ones where they're grabbing, like, pigeons? And I saw it. Oh, yeah. I saw a track. I think of a bat.
Starting point is 00:04:27 It was like, it was night vision, but there was a bird flying by and it's sitting there and then it just reaches out and grabs it. Yeah. Dude, insane. Rats are crazy. Anyway, back on topic. Okay. Mouse P.I, which was initially slated to come out this year, has been pushed back, but does have an official release date. It is now coming out March 19th, 2026.
Starting point is 00:04:49 What are you guys' thoughts on mouse PI overall? So, Ace, you and I were talking earlier. Here's my thoughts on this. I said, I think the art style. and the visuals in this game are incredible. Like I, the way that they have presented this game is top notch. My concern is, is it all about the visuals or do we actually have an in-depth shooter here? Because if this is a shooter that is just push left click, you know, and sometimes your bullets look different.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Sometimes your bullets go boom, but that's it. I don't think this game is going to succeed or at least be for me. So if they can have an actually good in-depth. shooter with mechanics and things like that that help to carry the game, I think that the art style will only accentuate that. But if they are relying on the art style to sell this game and the actual shooter mechanics are just really dumb, I don't know at that point, man. That to me is going to be the difference in this game. They've been working on this for so long. They have to have to have a good game underneath that art style. Like they have to. I hope so.
Starting point is 00:05:53 What have you been working on? What have you been working on if not? That's what we say a lot of times It's like how long has it been in development You know and then you get what you get Do we have a is there a price for this yet I'm looking at no price But I can confirm it is coming to all consoles plus I mean yeah like Josh said
Starting point is 00:06:11 I love the look of this But is there a game underneath it Do we have something that we can really play and enjoy If so I mean I'm all I'm all for it this looks cool I love the kind of Steamboat Willie like look to it That that you know crazy obnoxious you know uh horns and sirens and all that stuff like i i just love it so to me
Starting point is 00:06:33 it to me it looks fantastic i just hope that there's a game underneath and um man yeah it's it's if if so i think they have something here yeah i i hope there's game underneath i really too otherwise i've been touting a a a pretty art project i'm gonna believe there is i'm gonna believe there is and one other little piece of indie news before we get into these new upcoming games. Shovel Knight, who we are all very familiar with, had yet another big collab with indie game
Starting point is 00:07:03 Crypt to the Necrodancer and Rift of the Neckrodancer. Are you familiar with either of those franchises? I am familiar with them. I have never played either. I know that people really like them. I think they're rhythm-based games, right? Isn't there some kind of rhythm? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:20 That's all I know about them. I know people like them, but I honestly don't know much else other than that. All I know is Celia, our friend Celia Yacht Club games doing work once again. She is doing work. This is right here. This is her again. Putting it shovel night and yet another game.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah. Love it. Yeah, I'm the same as Josh. I'm familiar with it, but I've never played any of these. But man, it's cool to see, it's cool to see some sort of IP that's just kind of branching out and it's being part of, I'm not big on collabs, but it's, it's neat to see people just working together and seeing these entities, like, be part of each other and kind of trying to lift each other up to make more, you know, kind of influential games.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Yeah, like I understand not being big on collabs, but when you see like indie developers kind of supporting one another in this way, like, you know, like we're, we're going to use our IP to lift up your IP and vice versa. It's, it's always very heartwarming and nice to see that they're not super competitive with one another. I like this type of collab personally. I'm with Ryan normally, like I don't like the Fortnite skin collabs and all that stuff and now Overwatch is doing nothing but collabs and blah, blah, blah. But when you see indie studios doing these, this actually does kind of warm my heart because it's like hey like you're working really hard this is your passion this is our passion let's work together kind of thing we saw this with tito and peak uh with one of
Starting point is 00:08:36 the skins in tito is a peak skin like this is the kind of collab i'm here for and i love seeing these like smaller indie studios working together on this stuff yeah i agree i love seeing indi devs see each other's friends basically and not you know enemies in the market which is wonderful all right that's it for news. We're getting into the far future because none of these games have released days place. It's no game November, man, what we say? Yeah, no kidding. No game
Starting point is 00:09:06 November is real and it is here. But these are all PC exclusive to my knowledge. None of these have console. Ryan just wants to play Arc Raiders. He's like, I just want to go play Art Graders. Ryan really wants me to shut up. I'm not even supposed to be here today.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Oh, come on. I mean, come on, Ryan. You got to want to talk about Dino Blade. Okay. Actually, I do want to talk about Dino Blade. Okay, well, go ahead. Tell me, what did you see from Dino Blade? Dude, I saw dinosaurs carrying swords.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Like, bro, how, like, okay, when I see, like, Dino Blade, I'm like, oh, yeah, some crazy name for whatever, and there's going to be, like, some guy running around and he's, like, dino-centric and stuff. No, it was dinosaurs running around with swords in their mouths, like, slashing them at each other, and it was the craziest most. ridiculous thing, but I'm all for it, man. This thing looked wild, but it looked pretty cool. This game started as, like, a tech demo, like, art project for a student.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Okay. There was so much interest in the way this person animated dinosaurs fighting with swords that they ended up getting money from people to make it into a video game. And now we're getting Dino Blade, which is an action RPG Soulslike, where you play as a spinosaurus with a colossal great swords. Hey, Josh, you show us some really weird games sometimes, man. I'm not going to lie. Like, sometimes I watch these trailers and I see these games and it's like,
Starting point is 00:10:35 bro, with a name like Dino Blade, I watched this trailer. I went into this going like, this is going to be terrible, dude. And it is not. I'm with Ryan on this one, dude. Like, there is something about watching a Spinosaurus with this colossal great sword. Just doing these like over the top moves, hack it away at some other dinners. And it's like, You know, I hate the term.
Starting point is 00:10:58 It's like a Dark Souls type game, you know, like a Souls like. They say that for everything. But dude, this is like you are facing off mono a or Dino A Dino. With like, and the other Dino looks mean and it's got a giant sword. And then you're just like, one of us is going down, you know? They're going to one. I think this game looks great. Like, it, again, I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:11:23 If this has actually decent fighting mechanics and moves, oh my goodness, like, why has nobody done this before? Dude, I don't know, because, like, this is genius. I couldn't look away from dinosaurs swinging swords. What do you mean? Why has nobody done this? Why has nobody put swords in dinosaurs' mouths and making them fight each other? Dude, it looks like that's just a common thought.
Starting point is 00:11:47 It does look legit. No, the fighting actually looks good, like the sword play and the combat and, like, them parrying each other like it does it looks it looks pretty dang good man there's a stegosaurus doing a massive tail like whip on it that you dodge okay we also have to talk about the fact that the soundtrack for this game is a freaking banger dude i don't know if this is like heavy metal just where i'm watching these dinosaurs go out and i'm like yeah like get it boy get them you know but it's like kill them spinoceros kill him like between the moves and the ground shakes and
Starting point is 00:12:24 oh man I almost gives you that like twisted metal feel like that it does very exactly very twisted metal yeah yeah yeah yeah I will say wish listing this right now so I don't forget yeah I was going to say be sure to wish list if any of these games you know peak your fancy
Starting point is 00:12:40 and there is a demo there is a demo this is true yeah there's a demo there's a demo and the demo is being received very well I will say people are liking Dino Blades so far but yep Wish list.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Moving on to Darklight Survivor, which is like a rogue-like survival spinoff with the weirdest mechanic of being able to change from third person to an overhead camera view. This game is weird, dude. I don't know if I've seen anything like it before. When Ace says it's weird, that's what we know. That's what we say. Dude, this one's weird.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Maybe it's just because of the camera angle changes like that. I've never seen anything like that where you go from like an almost hell diver's experience to a Diablo experience. Yeah, that's the best way to put it, man. But it's, uh, it takes those like, uh, vampire survivor mechanics and those risk of rain moments and just throws you into a horde of enemies. Yeah. But, uh, what did you two think of this one? Just based off of the trailers and things we saw. I, it's weird to me because I think I actually prefer the overhead in this game looking like a Diablo.
Starting point is 00:13:52 kind of like game, you know. Really? Yeah, oddly enough. But here, like, I'm a little confused. It confuses me because I feel like you have to basically make two games in one to be able to change the camera angle from a third person to a first person. And it looks like you can do that on the fly almost in this game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And while it's really neat to me, I kind of go like, and I'm no developer number one. So I have no idea the complexity to do that. but I feel like it would be a lot. So it's almost like it's a neat angle, but like you should just make the game the way that you want to make it and take all that time that you spent making it where people can switch back and forth and just improve the game from the one aspect
Starting point is 00:14:33 and hope that people like that. Because it sounds neat to be able to change the camera angle. But like at me, I'm going to play this game 98% in the in the top-down Diablo-like aspect and very, very rarely played in the first-person shooter one. or vice versa. Like somebody might be like, I love the first person
Starting point is 00:14:52 and I don't like the other one, but is it worth it? You know what I mean? Like, I will say, I think the game itself actually looks pretty neat. Like, it looks fun. It looks really interesting, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I joked around, I watched the trailer, this guy straight ripped off the mancubis from, from Doom. I mean, to where I was like, is that copyright issue right there? Because like, boy, these things
Starting point is 00:15:17 are like identical. Um, but hey, if you can get away with it, you, I mean, okay, power to you, but I think, I think there's a good game here. I just have to question this like, why did you make both camera angles? How hard was that? Was it worth it? Do we know, do we know if, if it's, uh, available to switch in the moment? Or is this like a, it says dynamically shifts between top down and third person view. Now, see, now that's interesting because I don't know what dynamically means in that case. Like if one level is top down, presumably. see this is the way it could work though right if one level is top down yeah right and then the next level is first person that's kind of cool right like okay now it makes maybe that's the case that's what my thought was that makes sense to me if it's like because what you were saying josh is true yeah yeah to have to to have to do that you are you're developing two whole games because you have to have the ability for a person to play either way so but if they develop it to where certain levels are this way and others are that way you know then that makes a little more sense.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah, I mean, I thought it looks cool. Obviously, yeah, they do have the rip off. But yeah, I mean, it's a neat looking game. I'm interested to see a little bit more about this one for sure. This one does have a demo as well for anyone who's interested in checking it out and sort of getting your own bearings with it. Because maybe I didn't have time to dive in the demo, unfortunately, so I couldn't tell you. It looks pretty. Maybe that is the case.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I do think it's very funny that you could play it with realistic graphics or a pixelated mode. Yeah. That was kind of funny. to me? I was like, did you just remake everything? For me, and maybe it's just the way that the trailer came across, but I would say that the sound of the guns and the
Starting point is 00:16:58 hitting was very lackluster. Like, work on your, work on your hit registration like a fax and sound because it literally was very underwhelming. It's like there's chaos. It didn't even look like the gun was firing sometimes. Yeah, exactly. It's like, yeah, and
Starting point is 00:17:14 it's like, bro, you have to make it satisfying to shoot things. Like, I don't know, you know, you know, Get some sounds like our graders. Yeah. Yeah. There is a good game here, though. That's why we're putting this forward. I do think it's a good looking game.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Like there is absolutely potential on this one. I have a couple concerns. The main one being work on the hit registration make that sound satisfying. Yeah. All right. We will be right back with some more up-and-coming indies after a word from our sponsor. You know what's better than the one big thing? Two big things.
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Starting point is 00:19:38 back and we are talking about z killer this one is one i kind of is this not we find Indie games everywhere. EXE file? Like an EXE killer? They don't say it that way in the trailer. My brain reads it. You might be... I read it as EXE Killer when I was looking at it, too, but it's Z Killer, apparently.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Really? EXE Killer's way funnier and way better, but... Because you're killing the file. I read it like ex-killer. Ex-killer. I like that we all three. Like, executor, but ex-a-killer? Ex-killer.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Yeah, all right. I'm the ex-killer. This just proves you could. find any games anywhere, guys, because I was just scroll in Twitter, just mindlessly. And there's an indie game I've never seen before, never heard of. Nobody's brought this up. It's never been posting our Discord. I haven't seen it on YouTube. I haven't seen it on Steam. I was like, okay, well, I got to check this out. It is a retro futuristic Western, which is very, very bizarre to say, but that is what it is. It is a cyberpunk game where you play as a bounty hunter
Starting point is 00:20:44 who goes out and collects bounties brings them back in and gets freaking paid dude and i gotta say it looks phenomenal it looks good ryan didn't you say you'd love bounty hunting like you were like bro give me a bounty in a game i'm a sucker for bounties dude absolutely dude yeah this this one for me like i i love uh i love the look i love i'm i'm a western guy i grew up in the desert i'm from arizona born and raised so my whole life has been here i've always wanted to be an old timey cowboy so these always hit hard for me um i think it looks beautiful uh i think they did a really good job with with like kind of the environment in the world um that that kind of weird retro like 80s looking future aspect i always tend to vibe with i i do enjoy that as well so yeah this one
Starting point is 00:21:35 definitely uh it's some markers that i i genuinely look for in a game that excites me so i i'm I'm excited to see where this goes, and I'm curious as to why, you know, it took you scrolling through Twitter or something to just randomly see it. Like, why haven't we heard about this? So, hopefully we're going to bring it to the masses and more people will learn about it. But, yeah, this thing, from what I've seen, it looks, it looks pretty neat. Yeah, it looks very solid. I got to say, I really want that hover car. Yeah, it's sick. It's so funny because it starts off with you driving and I was like, is this like Pacific Drive?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Like, what is this game, man? here's the thing I'm with Ryan I think this game visually looks incredible it actually it's a very neat like kind of stylized graphic modern graphics that kind of thing there's two things and it's like
Starting point is 00:22:23 I don't want to get my hopes up here like legitimately but like dude this game gives me two very very good games vibes one is an all timer for me which is Deuce X I mean that people have heard me talk about that game that game is absolutely incredible hey there's a remaster coming for that so for people yeah but it gives me straight up deus x
Starting point is 00:22:48 vibes and it gives me cyberpunk vibes dude like good vibes I mean those are two all timer type games in this and it's like I really don't want to get my hopes up because it's like come on man I can't really be that but like you watch the trailers and then it's like it might it might be you know like or even even like again 80% of either one of those games is still an incredible experience so it's like could it be i think this game looks incredible i am very curious why haven't we heard more about this like this game this is the type of game that should not be under the radar and so it's like people need to be talking about this that's for sure yeah so it's like maybe we're the ones that start to talk i mean we love that but at the same
Starting point is 00:23:37 same time like there's something glorious looking here i just like if they can pull this off oh my goodness man so please don't have like a critical flaw or like something really really wrong with your game that is like this is why people are talking about it because man this game looks really impressive to me yeah and i don't know what it is right now but uh indydev seem to be really in on the western theme because the next one we have here called far far west is a your for genre right now, guys. An extraction shooter where you play
Starting point is 00:24:11 where you play as robots in the West collecting bounties once again. I kind of love how goofy and chaotic this one is. You play as these robots
Starting point is 00:24:22 with floating hands and the weapons are just goofy as all get out. You've got a shotgun that fires faster than the speed of light. You got freaking finger guns that are on fire.
Starting point is 00:24:33 He's just going but bea, beep, beep. But I love it. love this man i love these like multiplayer focus games like this you have so much better time with your friends than you ever went alone for sure this this looks a lot like uh what was the what was the space when we we were playing uh good good it starts with a g doesn't it start of the g that we were playing we played with paul that we were you go high to jack the ships and you go in oh wildgate wild gate yeah so i get some wildgate
Starting point is 00:25:01 vibes from this just as far as like the kind of the look of it um as you jump around and stuff like I don't know I got there's so you don't like there's I'm feeling you don't like I'm feeling you on this one I'm trying I'm trying I'm trying I'm trying here's the thing man I got caught I got I got you Ryan I got you on this one because like it's so funny you're not alone here's the thing these multiplayer shooters I feel like are a dime a dozen dude Archiegeden right like Morgo was a huge fan of Archegedon, you know, like, there's so many of these. They have the cartoon like graphics, you know, like, it's four-player co-op. There's tons of visual spam. Like, you know, and again, it's like, what is setting you apart from every other game in the genre? Because
Starting point is 00:25:52 there's a gazillion of these games in the genre. Like, it's an extraction shooter. I mean, okay, but like, it looks simple. There's got to be something. Exactly. Like, like, Like, I'm not slandering the game. Maybe it has that. But from a trailer, and again, this is what gamers see, right? They see the trailers and they go, hey, like, you know, what's going on here? This is what worries me is that this is going to get lost in the shuffle. Also, Aces.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I think Ace is dying. There we go. Oh, no. Back. Quick, Ace, go. All right. And the last one here, which is 13Z, the Zodiac trials. This one is bizarre as I'll get out, but I kind of love it.
Starting point is 00:26:37 It is a roguelike hackenslash inspired by Chinese mythology, where you are fighting to get your place as the 13th Zodiac. It's multiplayer as well, which I freaking love. Oh, my goodness, man. Ace dropped again. Get ready for the rat picture, everybody. I'm putting the rat picture back in. Aces internet time.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Rats are a bound. All right. Well, man, I feel like this is a trend now, Ryan. I like it. Here we are closing the show once again. Ace just bails on us and, you know, right mid-recording. Ace is going to go kill himself. Yeah, so here we are, people.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Ryan and I left holding the bag, doing the ending once again. I'm not even letting in, Ryan. He's trying to come back. We're not letting him in. No, we're not letting him in. So, all right, listen, everybody, those are the games just to summarize for you out real quick. Dino Blade? Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Darklight Survivor? Maybe? XE Killer Yes Far Far West Up to you If it's your thing And 13 Zee
Starting point is 00:27:37 The Zodiac trials Again up to you If that's your thing Remember to wish list These games We'll have all of the links In the episode description for you You guys requested that
Starting point is 00:27:48 We're going to start doing that for you So you can check them out easily But make sure you wish list The games that you're interested in It really does help the indie devs And from Ryan and myself And definitely not A since he just abandoned us once again.
Starting point is 00:28:02 You know, that's going to do it for this episode, everybody. Thank you for listening, support your indie developers. We love you all out there. Thank you for having the passion to make these games. We really do wish you all the best. And wish lists. Everybody wish lists. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:28:17 I mean, you guys heard it from Celia at Yacht Club games. It really, really does matter to these developers. It makes a world of difference for them. And again, it's not a commitment. You're not saying, like, hey, I guarantee I'm going to purchase this game. It's just helping get the game out there to people. So from the two hardest working hosts on this podcast who really just stick it out to the very end every single time, man. Every time.
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