Video Gamers Podcast - Switch 2 Reveal Extravaganza Episode - Gaming Podcast

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

Gaming hosts Josh and Ryan are back with a special surprise episode to celebrate the Switch 2 reveal! Join us as we break down our reactions to the hottest new gaming platform, what’s new with the Switch 2, our hype levels, our concerns, and what sort of awesome innovations we hope to see. It’s everything about the Switch 2 you want to know and another awesome video game filled episode from the Video Gamers Podcast! Thanks to our MYTHIC Supporters: Redletter, Ol’ Jake, Disratory and Gaius Thanks to Legendary Supporter: FitNerdJohn Connect with the show: Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/videogamerspod Join our Gaming Discord: https://discord.gg/Dsx2rgEEbz Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/videogamerspod/  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/VideoGamersPod  Subscribe to us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU12YOMnAQwqFZEdfXv9c3Q   Visit us on the web: https://videogamerspod.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Visit BetterHelp.com today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P.com. Hello, fellow gamers, and welcome to the Video Gamers Podcast. What's this? A Friday episode? What could be the occasion? The Switch 2 was announced, and we just can't help ourselves. We're going to be breaking down the announcement, the changes we know of, our initial thoughts, some concerns, and some things we hope to see. But before we get into that, some introductions are in order. I am your host, Josh. And joining me, he's 15% bigger than he was eight years ago,

and his Joy-Con may have some drift. It's Ryan. Okay. You told me it was a good intro and you were happy about it that was dude that's probably one of your best i am i am 15 happier than i was before i'll tell you that much yeah that was uh that was a solid intro thank Thank you, Ryan. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Nothing like a little Pixar humor. I love it. That the kids can laugh at and the adults can snicker at, man. Exactly.

Oh, man, that was good. Man, I'm excited. I'm ready. I am super excited, Ryan. We are so excited that we're doing a bonus episode for everybody, man. Yes. Because, you know, it's not every day that a new console gets announced.

And, you know, people were probably like, well, you guys didn't do a bonus episode when they announced the PS5 Pro. And it's like, yeah, but that ain't the Switch 2 either, man. People have been waiting for the Switch 2 for eight years now, man. So we are going to be talking about it. We're going to be talking about,

you know, some of the things that we know we did get a nice video from Nintendo directly about this. I mean, if you haven't been on social media, you're paying attention. This was the official reveal of the switch to now we don't have a ton of information. Like that is kind of the key is that Nintendo gave us a look at the switch too. And of course people did some digging and they're like, Oh, I know what that port is and that kind of thing. And we can kind of extrapolate some stuff. Like it looks like it's somewhere in the range of probably about 15%

bigger than the original switch. But we had some kind of good conversation this morning as well. Like right after the reveal, our discord server was very interested. Everybody was chatting about it. I made a comment. I made a comment. I'll make it on this show as far as like kind of just an initial gut reaction to things as well. Um, but we really wanted to just, I mean, it's fun, man. We're gamers, dude. We're gamers. We got a new console coming out. The world has been hyped for the Switch 2. We talked about this on our Hot Takes episode. I said, hey, the Switch 2 is absolutely releasing this year. And I think,

and I'm still hopeful, that it's going to release with Super Mario Odyssey 2. We'll see about that. But yeah, man, we're excited. We want to share that excitement. So here we are. We hope you enjoy this kind of extra Friday episode. And we you know, we're going to get into it. But Ryan, we always love starting off an episode with thank yous, man. Yes. We're thankful for the listeners. We're thankful legitimately for every single person that finds this podcast or sees our, you know, our logo and says, let me see what these video gamers are about.

And we're thankful for that, man. And when people do that, and then they like the show and they say, you know what, I'm going to leave you guys a review, or I'm going to go sign up to help support the show. That means the world to us. So there's a reason that we like to say thank you back to people. And Ryan, we got not one, we got two people to thank. Oh, yeah. And not only did these people sign up, but they skipped. They skipped the normal sign up, and they went straight into the epic tier. Epic.

Epic. And both of these people are epic because I have been so glad that they joined our community over on our Discord server. They're both awesome people, man. So a huge thank you to Helovit. Dude, Helovit is awesome. Just a cool guy. I want to go visit him because I'm pretty sure he said he lives in Norway? Something like that. Somewhere over there.

Forgive us ignorant Americans, dude. My geography is terrible, but I know he's from that area and it looks beautiful and he's always, you know, taking pictures. And I'm just like, I'm a little jealous, man. So if you want to invite the podcast to come over, hell of it. Yeah. We'll try to make that happen. We'll make space. Yeah.

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Armadillo and it's titled, This Podcast is Amazing. And it says, I got an iPhone for Christmas just so I could leave this review. That's how good this podcast is. Long live the podcast and Merry christmas everybody so that kind of tells you we're a little bit behind on reading some of these maybe a little maybe a little just a month late but you know better late than never we always say that's ryan's motto for sure uh listen listen time you know just like just like gandalf you know man it's all over the place we're everywhere everywhere. So are you Ryan the Gray? I'm getting there.

I'm getting there, buddy. If you look at my beard and my head, man, I'm getting there. Well, you are 15% bigger, as we proved in the intro. Family show. So, Ryan, let's get into this, man, because I know we're both pumped. We're both excited. The Switch 2 was officially revealed to us this morning. Yes.

I mean, only a few hours ago that the Switch 2 got officially revealed by Nintendo. You gotta love Nintendo. It's the Switch 2 is the official term for it. That's kind of what people have been calling it. But hey, if Nintendo went, yeah, it's the Switch 2. We got a two minute and 22 second video to go along with that. Kudos, Nintendo. That's such a Nintendo thing. Yeah. Yeah. There's been a lot of reactions on social media, online, content creators, stuff like that, kind of giving thoughts and breakdowns and all this stuff. And it's an

exciting time as gamers. So we want to jump into it. Let's start with the reveal video, Ryan, because this is what we got this morning. They didn't really give any fanfare or notice either. No, not at all. Which I thought was kind of cool that they weren't like, hey guys, huge reveal coming on January 16th at 7.30 a.m. You know, it just kind of dropped.

And people were like, yo yo nintendo what is this shadow dropping the official reveal um so we got this video this video was an animated video yes um you know i if there was any actual like footage where it's like swooping past the the switch to it almost looked like a star destroyer man is it's like coming across flying past the the side of the switch to you know stuff like that tie fighter noises yeah exactly yeah that was a pretty bad people probably thought i was choking that was supposed to be a tie fighter i knew what you i knew what you were going with, man. Thank you, Ryan. So we got this showcase. It showed the form of the Switch.

It showed the ports. It showed the kind of new Joy-Cons that it has. Showed off the upgraded size of the Switch. They definitely focused on the fact that the Joy-Cons kind of magnetically lock and click into the main switch itself. I felt like this video was very similar to like a car commercial. You know where the camera's like, it's like, dude, it's a Toyota, you know, but it's like the camera's swooping past the wheels and then it swoops past the body lines and then it shows the headlights on the car, you car. And it's like, I kind of got that vibe from this. Does that make any sense to you?

No, no, it definitely does. First, though, I want to say, without a doubt, all companies should take this practice and just put it in effect. The shadow drop, I think it causes so much more excitement and bewilderment and whatever thing you want to call it to where the media and the craze of the internet with how fast things transfer just goes off the chain as opposed to announcing it and then everybody waiting and then it's just this long drawn out thing to where people lose interest. I think this blew up today, and for good reason. I absolutely love it. I secondarily love the fact that they did it this way. I don't want to see people just sitting and playing a system.

I want to see it. And the fact that they did make it look like that car commercial to where they're sweeping through the lines. I get to look at the device. I get to see the ports. I'm one to be excited. You get the curiosity. Yeah. And I'm one to be excited by a trailer. So this like immediately, I'm like, okay, that's kind of cool, you know, looking at it. So I love, I love the way they had this kind of whole thing set up and the way they produced it. I agree with you. I mean, it was very well done. It's, you can tell this was top

notch and I'm with you, man. There is, you know, there's the, Hey, we're going to announce that we have an announcement. We're going to hype you all up beforehand. And then it's like, everybody's waiting around. And then the announcement happens and everybody talks about it for, you know, a little bit, but then it's like, but everybody knew it was coming. Exactly. You know know and so with this there's that excitement of like dude did you see that the switch to go watch it and then and then it's funny because it's radio silence for like two and a half minutes you know and then they come back and they're like oh dude i didn't know this was getting revealed today yep yeah i had a

buddy my buddy sean i've've been playing PlayStation with him for 15 years. We've been playing games. I've known him forever. I've played hockey with him since I was a kid. He's never owned a Nintendo system, and he sent me the trailer this morning at like 6.30 in the morning. That shows how much that reaches

immediately for somebody who's never owned a Nintendo system to have that off the cap, ready to Nintendo system to have that off, you know, off the cap, ready to go to send to people to, to, for everybody to see and just get excited about it. Yeah. And that means somebody probably told him about it too, you know? And so it's word spreads like crazy. Uh, and I mean that this morning was just filled with excitement and people getting really excited about this. So I am also a fan of that. I remember this happened when Tango Gameworks announced Hi-Fi Rush at the game show.

And they were just like, and it's out right now. And it was like, what? What? Like, I can go play this game this second? They're like, yeah, go for it. Or even, what was it? Hell Divers. Didn't they just do that with the new race or whatever?

Yeah. They're like, oh, by the way you know and then we're i was like oh what and i went that night and looked up i'm like sure enough there it is you know so it's man this stuff it just it it it makes that pop a little more you know dramatic you know in my opinion at least i know i agree with you 100 because i think as gamers we get kind of tired of the teases and drawn out. Hey, this is going to be revealed. And now we get a little three second trailer or, you know, or like an. Yeah. So, all right. So we got our fancy looking fly by our car-esque commercial for the Switch where they showed everything off. We're going to get into some of the actual knowns on this, but I want to capture the initial impression. I mean, you're sitting there, the world has gone crazy the switch 2 is announced here's the trailer you watch the trailer what is that immediate reaction right after the trailer ends so uh it's hard for me it was a little bit of okay that's a switch um. I kind of want to know more.

You know, like what is going to be the... Okay, it's bigger. That's cool. The controllers, you know, that looks cool. Like the mounting system and whatnot. But like what is going to be that advancement? What's going to be different? And is it going to be more hardware-based, software-based?

Like what are we looking at that's going to make that next step to make me next step to make me personally justify buying a new system? So it was a little bit of excitement, but also just a little bit of a drawback of where are we going to go with this? I'm with you. I will be so bold or stupid, depending on how you look at it, to say. Legitimately, my initial reaction was a little bit of actual disappointment. Don't get me wrong. I was super excited for the reveal. And I prefaced this immediately by saying, listen, I am 100% going to own a Switch 2. My wife loves the Nintendo Switch.

I have played many a game on the Nintendo Switch. It's not my primary gaming console, but for my wife, it is. And I have had some very good times playing some of the games on the Switch. So it's like, this is prefaced by saying, I'm gonna buy this thing. There is no doubt about it.

Yeah. But if we're talking about the very initial reaction, I remember going, that's it? This is the Switch, man. Where's the innovation? And I kind of said that on our Discord server this morning. And that was literally, my takeaway was, this is Nintendo, man. Nintendo's never been on the cutting edge of hardware they've always innovated it hasn't always worked out the wii u is a classic example of that but you know this is the company that made the nes this is a company that made the gamecube this is the company that made the n64 you know the the original wii we don't talk about the wii u a whole lot because

it's like yeah you know but the wii u and that failure led to the switch and the switch was innovative because it's like, dude, here's a mobile console, you know? And so I think in my brain at, while I'm watching this video, I'm waiting for that,

like that big reveal. Like, what is it? What is it going to be? Innovation. You know what I mean? Like dude, after this fly by, they're're gonna show me something that's gonna blow my mind i'm ready i'm i i'm still ready okay that's the joy-con oh oh okay yep yep there's a usbc port

like and then it was over and then that's when i was like dude what what the heck, Nintendo? Where's my innovation at? Where is it? I got my innovation. So I will say, I calmed down a little bit. That's good. Paul talked you off the ledge, for sure. We had many a conversation about this. And so that was my initial reaction. And I even said, I don't mean for that to come across as negative, but this is

Nintendo's forte, you know, is they've always tried to innovate something. And that's not to say that they're not innovating with the Switch 2, but we just don't know what that innovation is yet. And I really hope that there is some innovation there. We kind of got a little bit more info as the day progressed and people kind of broke down the video a little bit. So let's Ryan, let's talk about some of the knowns. Okay. About the switch to, and kind of where, you know, some of these things come in. So it is bigger than the switch and bigger is always better, you know, in that regard gamers, you know, dude, you guys pick on me. I have a 48 inch monitor. I love this thing to death.

It's awesome. In the gaming world, bigger is better, man. Yep, absolutely. And so it is bigger. It's not a whole, whole lot bigger, but not only is the screen bigger, but so are the Joy-Cons, which I actually thought was a neat little touch.

For grown-up hands please please i mean i this was the if anybody has ever tried to play the switch using only one joy con which you know they can be used that way dude nothing you guys can't see i'm just like crumbling my hands together to try to play like with the toy car, what it looks like. I don't have big meaty hands, but it's like, dude, even for me, like what the heck,

man, we're not giant men. I'm, I'm five, 10, you know, uh, two 10 and I don't,

I have decent sized hands. I wear large to extra large gloves when I'm working, you know, and stuff, but like I don't have giant hands in that thing. Trying to hold it is just a, so obnoxious. So for, for, you know, and stuff. But like, I don't have giant hands in that thing. Trying to hold it is just so obnoxious. So for a beef of a man, a mountain of a man, like it's or or woman, you know, so it is. I hope that that little bit of a boost on the size of that is going to help for sure.

Yeah. So we got a bigger system, bigger joy-Cons, which actually I'm more happy about the system being bigger itself. I normally play my Switch docked. So the size of the system itself doesn't really matter a whole lot to somebody like me. But I also get that there's tons of people that are laying in bed or on the couch playing it. And so a bigger screen and easier Joy-Cons is definitely a plus right there. Ryan, we'll talk about the Joy-Cons here because there is a lot to talk about in regards to those, but we're going to take a quick break

and then we'll come right back. All right, we are back. We are jiving on the Switch 2 right now, breaking down some of the things that we know about it. Okay, so the Joy-Cons. I hate the Joy cons uh you mean drift cons yeah the drift cons um i i have the pro controllers because i hate using the joy cons we have the you know the little extension thing where you can they'll click into like the the

base of the controller so it actually feels like a normal controller and stuff like that. But I really am not a fan of these teeny little Joy-Cons. They're fine if they're inserted into this like controller platform thing for me at that point. And it's like, okay, whatever. But Nintendo is very proud of the Joy-Cons. And this is part of the kind of innovation that we saw with the Switch 2 reveal. reveal now form factor wise, they are a little bit bigger. Otherwise they really haven't done anything crazy here. Um, they have taken away the colorfulness of the joy cons. Like I kind of am a fan of that. Like I get the whole red and blue, you know, and some of these other colors that they sold for a little while to kind of make it unique and stuff. But dude, I'm, I'm a man, I'm a dad in my 40s. If I'm playing the Switch, I don't want to look too

silly. So having them just be black with a little splash of color right around the base of the sticks on them is fine with me. In fact, maybe even preferred because black's my favorite color as well. And it looks, yeah, just like your soul. But it looks clean. The way they did it, they have that kind of nice clean outline along the analog stick that matches the color on the side. So when they're docked and set up,

you don't really see it and the system looks clean. I think it's just a nice uniform tech, clean look, a lot of the other kind of handheld systems that are out these days. So it just doesn't look as much like almost a toy when you're playing it or holding it.

If you're going to play a handheld mode, I have like a yellow and I have all kinds of crazy colors because I keep having to buy new controllers because they all have crazy stick drift. But yeah, so I love the color scheme that they did with this one. It looks very clean. I am with you. And something that I don't think a lot of people thought about on this, because I have seen comments that it looks much

more like the Steam Deck now and the Legion Go or some of these other mobile platforms. If you take away the kiddie nature, that's one of the things, right? A lot of people have always viewed the, like the Nintendo Wii and the Switch is like they're kid consoles, right? And so I think by just making this simple design choice with just saying, hey, we're going to kind of streamline this. You have your little splash of color. You know, you recognize that pop of color, but they look much more streamlined and kind of sleek. And I think that will inadvertently appeal to a broader base, you know, by just kind of simplifying that and saying, look, we're not trying to make it look like this is something that it should be in a preschool. This is a gaming console and it's a gaming console.

That's not geared towards children. It's geared towards everybody. Um, so I think there's that weird, like kind of subconscious just perk in that regard where somebody can look at it and go this isn't intended for children like this is this is a gaming console yeah how do how do we stick with with what we've been known to make um which is primarily a lot a lot of times these kind of uh party games youth games things like that with with with also leaning into a lot of the cool stuff, the innovative stuff they've been doing over the years. So yeah, I think it was a great decision. So on the topic of the Joy-Cons, we have kind of poked a little fun at this in the past when we did get some information on the Switch 2. But the Joy-Cons now, instead of sliding in and clicking

into them, they connect magnetically. There is a port on each side that they did show off. But as you go to insert them, they just, using magnets, they will click in and be held fairly securely to the sides. You know, we've joked around, it's magnets, dude. Like, is this really that big of like an innovation? Is this really like, it's magic? What is this force that's being exerted on my joy cons right now if i get close if i get really close it just it just jumps

all of its own it clicks together oh my gosh yeah uh what is this sorcery um but i get it because it's an easy connect it's an easy disconnect they did show off like a button that kind of pushes them away from the console so when you want to take them off it's easy and you're not fighting these strong magnets or anything either so what happens when that when that when that button breaks though i then you gotta just bow up you know you gotta just bow up on it and say i'm better than these magnets And so, you know, we got kind of a glimpse of the button layout, you know. Yeah. Ooh, they're a little bit more ergonomic and they look like they're a little bit better.

And it's like, that's all fine. The switch has never been comfortable to me. But, you know, upgrades are upgrades, right? So if this helps people just hold it better and the buttons are slightly more ergonomical, that's a win too. Ryan, there's a mystery oh there's a mystery with one of these joy cons what is it do tell nobody knows there's a mysterious button ryan a button a button that no one knows whatever could it be it's a button it's grayed out it's blurred out nobody could tell what was on it but there's an extra button ryan and people really love talking about what that button could be and

i'm like is this where we're at like is this really where we are is like there's an extra button look man this is a controller yeah controllers are supposed to have buttons on them like is this a magical button i don't know what this button is dude this is the internet this is the internet in 2025 man that's just it's everybody's got an opinion and they're they gotta let everybody know and and uh what what could this button be and everybody just has to to mass hysteria uh you know this nintendo's probably like man we released a whole system reveal and they're just concerned with this one button it's i i mean if this button orders pizza for me oh i'm in man brother now it's like a linked up to to doordash or uber eats or something like that i mean i don't know about you

but most buttons on controllers simply control a function of something yeah you know and so i it's like unless this button does something magical i'm just gonna consider it a button at this point yeah does it take a screenshot like i mean i don't know but boy the internet lost its mind over this mysterious button now the coolest thing to me legitimately on the the new joy cons are they showed during this video, they showed the Joy-Cons kind of going on their side and then racing along like a flat surface. Yes. A la a

mouse. They have it confirmed. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. A controller, a Joy-Con controller like a mouse? Like a mouse, Ryan. Are you kidding me you kidding me put it down on the surface of something and you can move it across the surface and it will know that you're moving it through the power

of wizardry and sorcery ryan through the power of nintendo it can track it you can race them apparently oh yeah yeah Apparently from the video. Sorry to interrupt. I was... No, it's... I mean, this is the thing, right? Like everybody's so excited and it's so fun to kind of like hypothesize and stuff like that. But this... We're feeling pretty confident that this is an optical sensor just like you have in your mouse.

And that because of this optical sensor, you can now use the Joy-Cons in a mouse fashion. Now, I don't really understand using it as a mouse necessarily, but there are games that don't really lend themselves all that well to being played on a controller, a game like Civilization, for instance. Having a mouse and being able to click through menus and click precise locations is infinitely better than sitting there and trying to like pinpoint something on a map and then moving it from here to there and stuff. So it's like, there could just be this convenience functionality, but if I know Nintendo, and this is again, where I'm hoping we get some kind of innovation here, the ability to use the Joy-Cons with motion sensing, with the tracking like you could get with an optical sensor on a mouse, does kind of open up a world

of possibilities there. I can't really think of something right now, you know, where it's like, this would be super cool. But the fact that they have that, nintendo kind of showed that off in this video does tell me that there's some other functionality here with these joy cons that maybe people haven't really thought about and it is my hope that nintendo is going to figure out how to make this freaking cool in the use in some video game it yeah that's the thing is it might be one of those um let's put this hardware in here now and we'll figure out how to use it or implement it later um yeah i think they'll develop towards that or maybe technology will even advance towards that uh in in the software realm so yeah man it's it's definitely uh puzzling and

and uh you're just like sitting to think well like how would how would they implement that what what would be the game you know and maybe that's what they want us to do you know so who sees who knows what we will see and uh i'm just i'm all this all this talk just got me so excited yeah i it's funny because like i said my initial impression was a little bit of a almost like a negative but the more i think about what the possibilities are and it's like, I want to trust Nintendo to do what everybody's expecting them to do. And if they don't, and there's very little innovation at all, I'm going to be pretty disappointed. I'm not going to lie. Rightfully so. Still going to buy the console. Don't get me wrong, I'm not crazy, but it'll be a disappointed

purchase at that point. A couple other small things. There is a second USB-C port on it now. There's some people that have hypothesized that you can link Nintendo Switches now. So if we wanted to play a Pokemon game and I want to trade you one of my Pokemon. We're trading Pokemon, baby. Yeah, buddy. Like in that case,

like there are possibilities there. Could you daisy chain like a bunch of Switch 2s and then like have like a little mini LAN party or maybe this really neat multiplayer game? Dude, I sure hope so, man. I think one of the biggest things that have gone away from gaming is gaming together in person. Everybody hops on. Everybody's got their own account.

Nobody has hard copies of games like so everybody's got to have their system and and um just you there's no there's not much of that couch co-op or or land parties where dude i know you did the same like i would bring my computer i would lug and do a big old job to like bring my computer over the monitor over and this is not before these teeny little monitors i know we're old and we're dating ourselves, but I would lug this giant little 19-inch monitor over, or 16-inch, and then it was like 40 pounds, and we'd set it all up, and then we'd all play for, you know, five, six, seven, eight hours until the wee hours of the morning.

And I just think if they can create something to where it eases that transition into being able to do that type of LAN party group. Because Switch is already, Nintendo is already geared towards party games. If they can make it easier, dude, I'll be so stoked. Easier in person. And I know there's a lot of people that are going like, dude, use Discord and you play over the internet. What do you mean? You're play over the internet i don't want to see people i don't want to see people yeah like you what it's how what's this land party why do you guys make such a big deal because when you're in the same room playing

games together it's a different experience man it's just different it's like if you've ever played board games with somebody you know or had a board game night there is something about being in person playing games with your friends you you know there's all these board game emulators and stuff where it's like i can play board games over the internet it's not the same it will never be the same and it's hard to explain to people that have never had a land party but if the switch two can link all of these switch twos together in person, dude. That'd be so cool. Sold, sold, you know, in my opinion there. So, you know, there's a couple other

little piddly form factor things. The joysticks have like a deeper thumb cup, so it's a little bit more ergonomic and maybe your thumb doesn't slip off the top, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All right, so, you know, we've talked about a couple of the things that we kind of hope for, right? Like, I mean, we just got done gushing over LAN parties and sounding like old men here. So we've talked about a couple of the things that we kind of hope for, right?

I mean, we just got done gushing over LAN parties and sounding like old men here. Is there a feature or an innovation that you can think of that would blow your mind to say, hey, right now, like I said, I'm still a little concerned that Nintendo is not innovating a whole lot and that this is a, we just wanted to keep it safe and sell 18 gajillion Switch 2s and we're not going to risk it. We don't want another Wii U on our hands, you know, and that disappoints me, even though I can understand that from a business aspect. But is there a catch? Is there a thing that if they said, hey, this is something we didn't announce yet, that be like dude that would be so amazing yeah man this one's hard because um i mean obviously we can see the kind of the core of the system and what what they've shown so far so there's not too much to go out of that realm on on anything crazy um i know even people in our

discord today we're talking about some sort of camera, hologram, projector stuff that they could maybe implement within the Switch and stuff. But to me, I feel like it might be more software-based to where if they're able to implement some sort of just,

I don't know, Nintendo-based crazy AI that they implement within their games from now on to where everyone's having unique experiences in Switch 2 games that will draw people in. Shot in the dark, crazy, who knows? Maybe they're creating Cybernet, but who knows? Yeah, this is one of those things where we're gonna actually

get into software here in just a second um because that's honest let's be honest man nintendo's always been about the games yeah you're not buying nintendo hardware because you're like dude this is cutting edge tech man it's a potato man it's always been a gimmick yeah and the gimmick can be really fun sometimes but you know let's be honest like the re what was that the the ring you know the Wii Fit ring thing that you had to squeeze and pull and then they had the balance board for the ski jump thing and oh so it's like yeah yeah remember that yeah so it's like you know sometimes it seems a little gimmicky a little hokey but you don't buy a Nintendo for the hardware capabilities you buy it for that innovation and for some of the other ideas that they put into their games that make their games really outstanding and stand apart.

But for me, things that would blow my mind, what if that mysterious button is actually the button to turn on a microprojector? Or what if these sensors that people are thinking are mouse sensors, which they probably are, I'm not saying they're not, but what if these sensors that people are thinking are mouse sensors which they probably are i'm not saying they're not but what if they was double as like a projector to where you can now like shine you know the the the game that you're playing onto a wall or onto like a canvas or something because let's be like micro projectors are very common now yeah they're not expensive they're fairly cheap they don't take up space like this is something that would blow my mind where it's like nintendo has this micro projector

built into it you don't need to dock it you can take it anywhere and you can play it on somebody's wall you know or something like that so like think about that though you're you're you're killing time somewhere and you're like hold on let's play this game and you can just bust it out, throw it onto the wall. You got like a eight foot by five foot projection where you're just, you know, you're playing Super Mario Kart. There's two of them, Ryan. We can sit side by side at the doctor's office playing a game, projecting it onto the wall of the doctor's office, right? Like that would blow my mind like nintendo are you listening like we'll give you that one for free okay exactly ma'am could you move i'm on my third

lap can you sit over there please i mean but so that to me that's like an innovation the technology exists it's not expensive like this is doable man that's the thing for For something that's not super hardcore on the performance base of it and what they have to cram, we have to cram this crazy GPU and all of this other computer set in here to make sure we can have this ultimate performance. They don't need to do that. Like you said, their games sell. And that's why people buy the system if you can offer that like dude that would be next level so another thing that we did not come up with but our discord community did was hey you know what with the magnetic capabilities of these joy cons that we kind of like to tease and pick on because it's like magnets you know but you know there there's the thinking that if you make these really neat peripherals for this thing that can attach magnetically, it opens up a whole world of stuff. You could magnetically click in a, like a steering wheel, you know, for a racing game or something like that. What about VR? Right. I mean, if it's just an easy port and an easy connection, the kind of possibilities

are endless where it's like, could Nintendo release like uh like i'm not saying it's going to be a great vr headset but it's like could we have like a a simple nintendo vr headset because now you can connect all of these different things to this port magnetically and you don't have to have these weird well we can't use this because it doesn't fit and we'd have to design the switch with all these braces and connectors and things like that so you just clip them on and dude okay golf club you can you can set it up it'll have the line set on the golf club and then you'll know if your club face is open or closed and then and then you could like play vr golf or some sort of simulator golf on it too like motion controls and position sensors have existed in the nintendo for for since the wii yeah you know um so yeah so there is the thinking that there's all sorts of options that we have here here and it's

fun to speculate about all this stuff but here's the takeaway for me is you you need to do something nintendo you know what i mean like you need to give me that you need to give me that angle you need to give me that twist you need to give me that angle. You need to give me that twist. You need to give me that crazy thing that I wasn't thinking of or we didn't know existed or something like that. If the Switch 2 is just a slightly larger, slightly better performing Switch, I'm going to be disappointed. Like legitimately, I'm going to be disappointed. I'm going to say, dude, what the heck, man? You know, like this, you followed, like you followed Xbox and PlayStation at this point, and that's never been your market. That's never been your angle. What the heck? You know, again, still going to buy one,

but what the heck? Maybe that's what they're banking on. Yeah, I know. So, all right, we're running out of time, Ryan, but real quick. So they did show off a brand new Mario cart. The kind of takeaway here was that if you pause the video and you counted all the starting spots, it goes up to 24 people.

So, you know, let me, let me take one step back. Actually, I think one of the coolest things that Nintendo could do with the switch to that would be such an easy upgrade for them is, I feel like Nintendo has always been kind of poor with multiplayer, unless it's local multiplayer, right? But you don't have Xbox Online, PlayStation Network, all that stuff where it's so easy to just hop in with friends and play games.

For some reason, Nintendo hasn't figured out how to do that well. And that's not to say that they don't. I know there's online Nintendo games, right? But I feel like that's never really been their forte. I would say we're pretty hardcore gamers. And I know a lot of other people in our Discord and stuff are as well.

I don't know about you, but when I look at a Nintendo system or a Switch, I don't think of multiplayer. I never think of multiplayer. Maybe with the family when we're here, like a party game, like let's play together, but I never think of I'm going to get online

and play this game. To where you think of Madden, or you think of Call of Duty, or any of these other games on these other systems. Marvel Rivals, man. Right, Marvel Rivals. Everything is like, I'm going to hop on and I'm going to play with my friends, you know, and that's what you think. But Nintendo, that's not what comes to mind.

It's like, this is a, we're just going to play at home system, you know. And, you know, who knows? But I feel like, yeah, that's a big thing they're missing out on. I mean, if I could easily just hop on and go face my buddy at Mario Kart and just talk trash and beat the brakes off of him, that would be awesome. Yeah. So I think that focusing on the ease of multiplayer and the capabilities to do that, whether it's honestly both local, like we talked about connecting them together, even like a Bluetooth. If I'm hanging out at your house and I bring my Switch, dude, we're going to play games and we're all going to be in the same room. We're going to have a good time, but make it easier to focus on the multiplayer

aspect. So my hope is that with this Mario Kart that they showed off in the 24 starting spots, that Nintendo is finally going to jump into that multiplayer market a lot more and make it simple, make it easy. This should not be a difficult thing, Nintendo. So that's the other big, I don't really want to call it an innovation, but upgrade to the Switch 2 would be just let me play with my friends in an easy format and then give me fun games to play with at the same time. So all right so we saw mario kart software has always been and probably will always be nintendo's bread and butter yeah we got the confirmation of this mario kart game because we saw it they didn't go into really

any details on it um but i do have a question ryan does another mario kart or another mario party excite you oh it's kind of no the answer is no but also will i buy it yes yes i'm not saying i won't exactly yeah it's like no it's honestly in my brain it looks exactly the same as it did on nintendo. It looks the same to me. When I run over a banana, I get just as mad. It's the exact same. But it's just like, alright, this is a new one. So it's a little bit of upgrades and whatever features they add

or whatever things they do. But yeah, it's not anything that's going to sell the system for me. But yeah, it's something, of course, and Nintendo knows it, that I'll buy. So the follow-up to that then is that is this dependent? Is the Switch 2's launch a little bit more dependent on the huge franchises like Mario, Zelda, Metroid in that regard? Because I can't tell you how much Mario Kart I've played.

It's not like we haven't had experience in Mario Kart or Mario Party. I just don't get excited about those games anymore because they all kind of feel the same to me. So is the Switch 2... Does it need a brand new Mario game or a brand new Zelda game or Metroid Prime 4 to be the premier launch title? I think to reach the levels that they probably want to get to, they do need that. I know a lot of people, because this is around roughly 95% backwards compatible. I know they said that most games will work with the Switch 2, most Switch games. I know personally my friend that I mentioned earlier, he said he's never owned a Nintendo system,

but he's buying this one because there's been a lot of Switch games that he's wanted to play. So, you know, something like this, I think for people like us that already own Switches, that already have always played nintendo games they have to have that that thing that's really gonna make us want to play that's the draw so i know personally i didn't have a switch for a while um i really wanted to play animal crossing again i played a ton of animal crossing uh when i was younger with paul on the gamecube and whatnot and i'm'm like, you know what? I really want to play it.

This was during the COVID times. I'm like, it took me forever to find one. But I found one and then I was playing it and then I got into all the other games again with Switch and Nintendo and then Zelda and all that stuff kind of went from there. But I think they have to have something to really draw in the people

that just aren't already going to buy it. They're going to have a base that is no matter what going to buy that system and they have to draw in the other people it's just a question of what's that going to be i so for somebody like me here's here's the difference right i've already said i'm going to buy a switch too it's not that's not really a debate you know my wife got super excited i'm like't worry, we're getting a Switch 2 and she got excited. So for me, if the launch title is a new Mario Kart, I'll wait. Legitimately, it's not a day one purchase for me at that point. I have a Switch. I'm happy with the games that I have on that Switch. The Switch 2 is going to release. If there is not a premier launch title, I am the person that will wait until they have that must-play title at that point.

Exactly. Yeah. Now, you tell me that the Switch 2 is launching with Mario Odyssey 2, I am going to stand in line at the store the day of release to make sure that I come home with a Switch 2 because I want to play Mario Odyssey 2 that day. And so I think it's critical for Nintendo to have that if their concern is we really want the launch of the Switch 2 to be epic. Because for somebody like me, that's what's going to sway me. And again, you mentioned your buddy, and I think I'm pretty sure it was Ashley on our Discord server that said, hey, I've never owned a Switch,

but I'm absolutely excited in buying a Switch 2. Yes. And so I think there is absolutely a market for that. But for somebody like me that has a Switch and is happy with the Switch, I'm not quite as excited on launch day if we don't have that premier title to launch with it.

Exactly. Yeah. Oh, cool. My, my Mario cart race will have an extra, you know, eight guys or 12 guys or whatever.

I'm still going to smoke all of them anyway. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. One 50, two 50 CC. Boom. Gone.

Yeah. So, um, I, you know, Ryan, this, this last question I had in here,

it's kind of a no brainer, but it was, are, you know, are you planning on buying a switch to, but we kind of a no-brainer, but it was, are you planning on buying a Switch 2? But we kind of spilled the beans on that one anyway, so we'll just leave it there. I will say, if you are a scalper, and I don't care if I alienate anyone, you are the scum of the earth.

Oh, yeah. And I very much dislike... I won't say I hate you but i dislike you very very much and you were the reason it took me this long to buy my first switch because i couldn't find one anywhere i went to four million targets and i called all people all the time so don't be a scalper man just let people get what they want you don't need to make your 50 bucks or 100 bucks off your system by buying them and selling them and stuff. But let the people have their game systems. Yeah. I hate scalpers. I'll say it. Okay. Me too. I hate you. I know you were trying to be all nice, but it's like, no,

those people suck, man. You're keeping me from playing video games. So yes, we will be buying the system. One other quick point. We didn't talk about it. We're not going to get into it, but they did confirm backwards capability. It looks like it's going to actually use the same cartridges, those little, I'm going to call them cartridges because that's what they are, I guess, that the Switch uses.

So that doesn't look like that's going to change. They didn't say it'll play most games. There are a few that may not work with the backwards compatibility, but it's also nice to see that you're not losing your other library either. So listen, we hope you enjoyed this episode. We hope that you're excited with us.

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