Video Gamers Podcast - Tears of the Kingdom Hype, Lamplighters League and PC Port Woes - Gaming Podcast
Episode Date: April 6, 2023Gaming hosts Josh, Paul and Michael are bringing you all the weekly gaming news you could want. The new Tears of the Kingdom gameplay demo FINALLY has us hyped, Lamplighters League looks like it cou...ld shape up to be a fantastic turn based RPG, The Last of Us PC Port is under major fire for being terrible. Xbox Game Pass is no longer going to be available for $1 and more in this weeks’ episode of This Week in Gaming. Video games covered this week: Lamplighters League Last of Us PC Port Tears of the Kingdom News Covered: E3 Cancelled Xbox does away with $1 Game Pass Trial Thanks to our LEGENDARY supporters: Gideon Is Lit, Toro, Scrump, Gaius, Remi, MarbleMadness, Dr. Catatonic, Blackstar (DQ), Glapsuidir, Phelps, Michele B, Redletter, Nevo, Waynerman, TFolls, AceofShame, Jake, RangerMiller, and Ad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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here this thursday as we break down recent gaming news i am your host paul and joining me i know
he's more popular than the last of us because I know his approval rating is at least 42%. It's Josh.
Oh, I'm above the 40s now?
You are at least 42.
I'd like to thank all my fans out there. Thank you for getting me up into those low 40s, guys.
You've been campaigning for that hard.
I really have. This has been a long time. I mean, years in the making now.
Better than most presidents, at least.
And then joining me and Josh, we've been scratching our heads because he keeps trying to superglue mushrooms to a shield.
We just don't know what he's doing over here.
It's Michael.
I'll talk about that a little bit later on.
I don't have a funny, quirky thing to say right now because it just cracked me up when they did that in the video. We'll talk about that a little bit later on. I don't have a funny, quirky thing to say right now,
because it just cracked me up when they did that in the video.
We'll talk about this.
You'll just hold it till the Zelda talk?
I'll hold it till Zelda talk.
Well, you're not going to have to wait very long, Michael,
because we've got a lot to cover today.
We also are going to try out a new segment at the end of the show.
And to start off, I think we've got to talk about the biggest news of the week,
which is the 10 minutes of gameplay footage that we got of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom.
I'm always afraid to bring up Zelda just a little bit because Zelda and Link haven't
exactly been terribly well respected on the show, especially as of late.
But I'm very curious to hear your guys' take because I think I am by far the highest on
Tears of the Kingdom.
Michael, I think, is by far the highest on tears of the kingdom michael i think is by far the coolest on it so i'm very curious to hear what you guys think now that we actually got some major gameplay that's the first time paul's ever said i was
the coolest at anything fair enough uh okay so i'll go first um before we recorded i said i was
gonna say something that nobody uh had ever heard me say before and i'm going to say
it now i'm kind of excited about this game yes michael i am so excited this this trailer was
awesome why what changed your mind michael so what i didn't like about breath of the wild was the
empty open world and just the lie just seemed boring i got bored with it and i know that a
lot of people don't feel that way but ironically enough something as simple as a fuse mechanic so
in this game they went through the mechanic quite a bit where you just take two random items
and you go uh i got a pen i have an apple boom boom boom pineapple pen I have a pan. I have an apple.
Apple pan.
And you put these two things together and you fuse it into something else, right?
And so it's funny because I'm making fun of it at first.
I'm watching this video and literally my wife's sitting next to me and I'm like, the guy picks up a stick.
And then he's like, watch what happens if we put the stick on a pitchfork.
I'm like, you get a real long pitchfork.
Sure enough, you got a real long pitchfork.
And I'm like, oh, that's really long.
It's like 20 feet long.
It's like 20 feet long pitchfork.
But then he starts going through and he puts this mushroom on the shield.
And he's like, I'm like, what's the stupidest thing?
There's a mushroom on a shield.
He's like, but anything can have a combination possibility.
And then, boom, this light bulb went off in my head.
And I'm like how
much fun will it be for me to go through this game and just find two random items and see what they
do together if they do anything that alone is a game for me and i'm like i could see myself
wandering around this open empty world because it looks pretty open and empty just like the last one
but coming across like a flower and a rock and being like oh what let me try something with this and now i've got
more excitement in this open world something that i really did not get from the first one
and so now i'm excited about the game honestly because one simple thing that makes the open
world more livable is something to do in it and now you have something to do in it well and it's
a mechanic they already had with
the food right it's the exact same idea instead of just mixing in egg and flour and sugar and
maybe i get bread here it's just with the weapons and how cool is that yeah what do you think josh
i this was really impressive to me i i'm you know i know this game is going to be great i
jokingly side with michael a little bit in that it's a
little overrated as far as in the annals of gaming, Breath of the Wild. And it's like,
dude, Breath of the Wild was a ton of fun. I love that game. This is not to say that I don't.
But Michael and I have been very cool on Tears of the Kingdom because we wanted to see how is
it going to be different than Breath of the Wild. Dude, this showed off how it's going to be different.
Number one, they showed the sky islands,
all of these really cool things that are up in the air.
The verticality on this game is bananas, man.
I know in Breath of the Wild, you could climb a tall mountain
and then try to paraglide your way off and things like that.
This takes that to a whole other level.
And I love exploring. So when I'm running around and I see a sky island up above me,
I want to know what's up there. And so that gives me a lot of motivation to figure out how to go up
there. So I love that they touched on that part of the game and showed off some of the verticality
that's going to be in it. Because we knew it was there, but we didn't really get to see how or what they're going to do with that.
And so we got that.
And then the,
this whole like just sandbox of being able to combine items.
Paul,
let you tell people about the,
the actual vehicles part.
Cause that part looks insane to me.
This is awesome.
So it's a weird name,
but they call it ultra hand. I don't know why I'm on board with fuse, like fusing weapons. This is awesome. So it's a weird name, but they call it Ultra Hand.
I don't know why.
I'm on board with Fuse.
Like, fusing weapons makes sense.
Ultra Hand's a little odd.
But basically, if you remember back in the old trailers, we saw a machine flying in the sky,
and we saw boats.
What we learned in this gameplay trailer is that those are not things you find in the world.
You have to build them from scratch.
So you can find a couple pieces of wood,
you can place them and bind them together using Ultra Hand,
and then all of a sudden you pop on some electric fans,
and then you smack it, and they turn on,
and it's going to move and go in this makeshift vehicle
that you created for yourself.
So it could be something really simple like a raft
that's going to very easily just drive you straight forward. But we saw how they got
incredibly creative where you actually have flying machines that are going through the air that you
can pilot. I think this is going to lead to some of the best content on YouTube and Reddit and
TikTok. I just see my feed being completely littered with Tears of the Kingdom because people
are going to put this stuff to use and it's going to be awesome. Yeah. This opens up...
I'm going to sing it, guys. A whole new world. Oh, there you go. I can't say those words without
singing that song on this podcast. I apologize to everybody for having to listen to that too.
But this is what I was waiting for.
How do you make this game different?
How do you make it better?
This is how.
If I get tired of the main storyline and the main campaign on this,
I could see dozens and dozens of hours spent trying to just concoct some crazy vehicle.
Hey, I want to fly up to that island. I need two
fans. I need a way to steer. You're giving people... It's almost like Kerbal Space Program.
I was just going to say that. You're giving people all of these tools to make whatever they want.
And that is a lot of fun for a lot of people. So I am very, very interested at this point to see how that actually affects the game
and just some of the fun stuff you can do with it.
This was the first time that I saw this game not... Before we've seen things, they've been like,
oh, it's more vertical. You can go up and down this and that. And I'm like, it's still Breath
of the Wild. You just added some up and down. Let's get real here. This was the first time I watched it and said, this is a different game.
They really are adding more innovation to this game.
Yeah, they just waited to show it to us, which is fine, because now we're all super hyped and
it's not that far away. And why is it real fast? Why is it so exciting at the beginning of the
video when the publisher or the developer actually says, hey guys, this game is done.
It was so, I was like, oh, it's done.
He's like, it's done.
I don't know why it maybe feels so good when the first lines, he said,
hey guys, we're done making this game.
It's ready.
Like, well, I mean, it better be
because it's only a month away.
Right.
And it's a Zelda title.
Like they always come incredibly polished.
So yeah.
All right.
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Thank you, Michael. All right, moving into our next story, The Last of Us, which I know we've
brought up a lot lately on the show, but there's some more news. It finally released on PC after
10 years of waiting. And the bad news is that this is continuing a very long line in 2023 of awful PC ports of games.
People are not happy about this one.
A lot of people posted that they have waited 10 years to play because they never owned a PlayStation.
This one seems to be a complete hatchet job.
It is currently sitting at a 41% rating on Steam, which is actually higher than it was just a couple of days ago.
It was down in the 35 range. Guys, what is actually higher than it was just a couple of days ago. It was down in the
35 range. Guys, what is up with PC ports this year? I'll be honest, man. I never would have
pegged The Last of Us game. PC port being released. This is a beloved title, man. This is like
when they were bringing God of War to PC. I mean, I put them on the same
scales and said, dude, they are not going to botch releasing Last of Us to the world for
everybody that didn't get to play it on PlayStation only. How did this happen, man?
This is not good at all. And I get that some PC ports are better than others.
And sometimes we have to deal with a little bit of jankiness or just a little quality
of life thing sometimes.
But this is bad, man.
This is so bad that Steam came out and said, hey, our two-hour refund window for this game
is out the window. This game is broken enough on PC that
we will refund you beyond the normal refund window because that's how poorly this PC port
came out to the world. I'm honestly shocked. And I generally tend to not think the best things
about some of these remakes and PC ports and things like that.
But this one actually surprises me.
What's even more surprising, this game has been out forever.
Forever.
It's not like it's some new revolutionary code or something.
Again, I'm not a coder.
I don't know how it works.
But this does not bode well for Iron Galaxy, which is the company that handled the port,
which apparently I was looking into it, has handled some poorly received ports previously.
Some famously bad ones like Arkham Knight.
Exactly.
That's what I was going to bring up is like, how many times do you have to drop the ball
before people just don't trust you anymore?
This is probably it.
I mean, this is a golden egg.
The show just came out.
Everybody wants to play this game right now.
My parents are going to play this game,
you know? And to botch it this bad, to make it so that even Steam, who loses money on refunding you
because they still have to pay that cut to the developer or whatever it is, I think,
they still lose money on that. It's not just a refund for them.
To say that they're going to extend the two-hour window is unheard of first of all and it's really
disappointing now i've already played the game so i'm not too i'm not too upset about it but to hear
people like my friends saying i can't i refunded it i wanted to play it i don't have a playstation
it makes me sad honestly and i don't like to focus on negative we don't do that i'm just i'm just
really disappointed about this because also i like to mod games a lot i was looking forward
to modding this game on a pc
port i'll never pick it up now yeah i don't know if we're ever going to get back to where the main
studios port their own games as opposed to farming it out to other dev teams but these just seem to
just keep going so poorly and i don't know why but it just makes god of war more and more impressive
on pc because it was such a fantastic port.
Apparently, no one can do this anymore. We had people in Discord, I think mostly jokingly, but maybe seriously saying,
maybe this is just a conspiracy by Sony to start selling more PS5s.
And I was like, I don't think you want to tank your name that bad.
But that sounds kind of believable because it's just port after port are so bad. We're hearing
reports of crashes, freezes, stuttering. I mean, pretty much anything you can think of is just not
going well. All right, next story before we hit our break here. E3 is officially canceled once
again. If you are keeping score, they have not held E3 since 2019 there just simply was not enough sustained interest to hold
it guys it turns out that when sega tencent ubisoft sony microsoft and nintendo all drop out
apparently it's just doomed for failure yeah i you know you got to have the big name companies
have interest to have these expos like this um I've never been to an E3,
so I can't speak to what it's like to be there in person. I imagine that's super cool to be
in a theater getting the very first ever gameplay preview on a game or something like that.
The beauty of E3 was always the breaking news, right? You're going to hear about all these games
that are being released that we've never heard of before. Maybe you've heard of this
huge title, but they're going to show you some real stuff finally.
The thing is that all the developers are kind of doing that now on their own anyway. And it's not
cheap to go to E3. You had to pay a ton of money if you wanted to be there. So as much as it kind
of saddens me, because I know this was a great time for a lot of gamers,
I get it at the same time, because we're just able to get this information presented to us
in such an easy and concise way that it doesn't make sense for these developers
to go through all the effort anymore.
So it sucks, but I get it.
It's just an archaic system they're not needed
anymore yeah and it's disappointing in the nostalgia aspect of it it's kind of like how
mmos are kind of dying now where things change the the world changes and we have to adapt you
know looking at you blockbuster but the whole thing is like this is just not needed anymore
it makes me sad because i used to really love looking at the announcements like yes e3s this week getting pumped up staring at youtube all day long watching
these different streamers and stuff announce what was happening give their takes on it and now
everything comes in the form of like the bethesda showcase where it's just they're going to put out
their own thing it's just the way it is now so i'm a little sad for nostalgia's sake but that's
about it i think it's dead dead i don't see it returning no way yeah i
don't think it's i think this is it for you three yeah yeah it's too bad i was even wondering if
there's any way they can rebrand and maybe lean more into like indie games or something but they
already have their own conferences so like i don't know what e3 does they have a name so i'm sure
they'll pivot into something with it i just don't know what they're gonna do because when everyone
can have their own spotlight,
why would you share the spotlight with everyone else?
Yeah.
It's just business.
It's dead.
And you can see it's dead when even a Wikipedia page says E3 2023,
quote,
canceled due to lack of interest on attendance of major publishers.
It's done.
Ouch.
All right.
Well,
on that happy note,
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bad news to poor and frugal gamers out there microsoft has done away with the one dollar
free trial for game pass no longer can you sign up for that 10th new email and enjoy another month
you're now gonna have to pay if you want to keep it uh it's too bad because i know i know josh and i enjoyed multiple
demos of the game i was gonna say i'd just like to personally apologize to everybody out there
for being one of those people that probably made this happen you mean my wife's work email
every time there was a new game that came to game pass that i wanted to play it's like well time to make a new email it's i mean
it does suck i i you know i i get i get why they're doing it now here's this is not all
doom and gloom though so yes game pass is going away for xbox uh and pc so if you're a pc gamer
and you were getting that sweet pc game pass guess guess what? That's going away. Now, the good news is that they did announce that they are testing and have been testing
an actual friends and family plan, which seems really cool to me. And I don't know if you guys
read up on this, but basically they're looking at it. It's like 25 bucks a month, but then you get
to share your game pass with a couple other people
at the same time. So you can have friends and family. So if it's like,
hey, I know you don't have a lot of disposable income, but I need friends to play with.
So I pay the $25 a month for Game Pass. I can give Paul and Michael login or access to that.
And now the three of us have a game that we can play together this reminds me of old cell phone plants where you had like your five closest friends that
you get for free this is like a throwback business model yeah i that that's interesting i i gotta
got a bit of a hot take on this not really i think they're doing this because uh redfall and sky uh sky not sky
what starfield oh yeah they are now both microsoft properties they know that if they give a month for
free and people playing those games for free they're not going to sell as many copies it's
just a selfish move on their part not to lose any more money because you know and there's one thing
on it like as well for every josh out there there's also a me there's a michael who signed
up for an xbox game pass for the one dollar intro intro like three years ago and forgot to ever
cancel it and is still paying for it um to this day so but i think they were just venting too
much money on it and it's like i do like how they announced hey we're gonna come up with other
promotions it might make it more fun to have more liquid promotions on certain games and so forth
um but i mean who thought this would
last forever probably everybody i guess we wished it would last forever but it makes perfect sense
you got to get rid of it at some point yeah all right josh you wanted us to talk about an upcoming
tactic yes called the lamp lighters league which i gotta say is kind of a neat name pc gamer says
this is basically like a mash-up of indiana j The Mummy, which gets me very excited, and XCOM, which makes me a little
cooler. But why did you want to talk about Lamplighters League?
So kudos again to our Discord server, because a listener posted the link to this game. I did
not know about this game until they said, hey, this game looks really neat. This is why we love
the Discord server. So
head on over there. The link's in the episode description. So I'm like, oh, let me check this
out. The art style is what caught my attention right away. I really enjoy the art style on this.
The thing that got me is the gist of this game is that you are basically all villains. You are
not heroes. Scoundrels and thieves. Yeah. And it is a tactical kind of
turn-based combat game a la XCOM. Now, here's the kicker. I hate XCOM. I don't like XCOM games.
I've played them both and I find them to be insanely boring. I hate the slow nature of the
combat. I hate the cover system. I hate the random, oh, you have a 28% chance to hit, and then I miss every single time. I find the XCOM turn-based
combat to be terrible. That said, I absolutely love turn-based combat in most other games.
So Give Me Divinity Original Sin 2, I think, is the absolute perfection. I mean, that is the
perfect example of really good turn-based combat. So I enjoy it when it's not XCOM. So this game looks like it's leaning a little bit more
towards the type of turn-based combat that I really like. Let's hope that's the case.
But it just looks like a very neat game to me. It is turn-based. You have these scoundrels and
thieves that you play as. There's a ton of different characters. You get different abilities.
The storyline looks neat.
There's heists, apparently, that you can do.
We want to hurt no one.
We're here for the bank's money, not your money.
Your money is insured by the federal government.
You're not going to lose a dime.
Think of your families.
Don't risk your life.
Don't try and be a hero.
To where you can go do this mission
and try to perform this heist.
And if you get out with the object,
it's a rare artifact,
your character gets to equip that artifact. And so that then changes the gameplay nature of it.
It's just checking a lot of boxes for me. I always think it's nice to see when someone
goes outside the box a little bit. We've seen games where you've got the villains being the
heroes, stuff like that, i.e. like the movie Maleficent, where you see a positive aspect of
a villain. This is really cool because the devs actually said in the video that I watched,
we're not good guys. We're just people doing what we have to do to survive. And that's a lot of
people in the real world anyways. What are you going to do to survive? But one thing that I
kind of liked about this game without getting too deep in the weeds on it is in a two-minute
trailer that I watched, I saw a whole bunch of different environments, which I thought was really refreshing. The game didn't look the same.
A lot of different things happened, a lot of different places around the world or whatever
that we're looking at. And I kind of like that variety. So I'm interested in this game.
It looks interesting. Yeah, I thought that this one had some neat elements. I will say it's highly
stylized. If you go look at the animation style style and all that it almost reminded me of some of the later monkey island titles this one to me just didn't draw me quite as much as
aliens dark descent did which we talked about last week but i love the fact that we're getting
tactical games that aren't leaning fully into tactical decisions but rather action forward
with tactical elements that that to me, I like quite a bit.
So I like this trend. I think just right after seeing Aliens Dark Descent, that was a hard act
to follow. So when I watched this, I was like, oh yeah, it looks kind of neat. I don't know if
it's necessarily for me, but I can see the appeal. There's a couple of key things and then we'll move
on because I know we got to move on from this. But I actually wrote this down. You guys know I don't take notes because I just wing everything.
But one of the things that it said is so there's heist missions that contain major story beats and can reward you with artifacts that characters can equip.
While character recruitment and rescue missions, which appear after you lose someone in a mission, take place.
So you actually do missions to go recruit new characters or if your character dies to go get them back, which I thought was a neat mechanic. And other tasks populate the globe.
Each of those banished court factions, which are the bad guys in the game, is making independent
progress, achieving permanent upgrades for themselves if you let them do evil unimpeded.
Or unimpeded, sorry. So I feel like they're building this world and there's always things
going on outside of just your current mission which like i think that's a neat aspect too
because it makes you care about the mission that you're on versus it's oh it's just another turn
based combat yeah so if anyone wants to check that one out again the name is lamp lighters league
all right and then the last thing that we're going to do here for today is a little bit of a new segment
that we're going to try out called SideQuest.
I'm excited.
The whole idea of this segment is just simply
if one of us run across something,
maybe it's like a video we watch
or something that we learn about gaming,
whether or not it is related to this week,
it's new to that person during that week
and they can come and
bring it to the group. So what I want to talk about is an amazing video I ran across that I
have been waiting to talk about here for the last several days. I don't know if you guys are familiar
with the YouTuber Basically Homeless, but he's got an awesome channel. He talks a lot about scammers
and hacking and technology and some gaming and some stuff like
that well he released a video called saving first person shooter games and it's all about how ai is
going to revolutionize online gaming all right so quick question for you guys what is the number one
problem with battle royales online fps games what kills it hackers yeah hackers yeah cheaters yeah you
wrote it for everybody you wrote yeah pub g i i still want to love that game and freaking hackers
man that is a perfect example of a game that was completely ruined for us because of that
take a guess what percentage of gamers do you think use aimbot assist or esp some kind of online hacking what percentage would you guess
i think i would have said five to eight percent i was just gonna say five percent yeah i would
have said ten percent because anybody that kills me is a hacker so you are all so so off it is 30
what 30 they say that they track online gameplay,
and they know beyond shadow of a doubt,
20% of online gamers, absolutely 100% guaranteed, are cheating.
They think the actual number is probably around 30%.
What?
That means one out of three people you see online
are using some form of hacking to help them with their aim.
I knew it!
I knew it! See, all those people are killing me we're not just too old josh we still got it buddy we just have integrity we won't cheat
i couldn't believe this 30 so they said that ai hacking has really taken off it's incredibly
cheap you can get it for free You can pay five bucks for one
that's a little more reputable, less likely to have a virus. But basically, here's what's pretty
amazing. All right. So how are you going to combat hackers? Well, we keep hearing all about the magic
and the beauty of AI and how you can use it. So basically, he started asking questions. How can
we use AI to crack down on hacking? And what they ended up finding out is
that there's already a company called Anybrain, just one word. They have trained AI to watch
gameplay and catch cheaters. And do you know how accurate it is? Over 99% accurate.
And it means that even if someone is just using the most minor of cheats,
where it's only very minimally moving the mouse, even with smoothing and all of that,
it will still catch people.
And guess what?
It is already connected with some online games that people don't know about.
This is crazy.
This is where the story starts to get really interesting.
So they have already been gathering information and watching players.
Anybrain says that they have signed NDAs, so they cannot say who they have already done this with.
But you see a couple graphs and stats that are in the hundreds of thousands of player count.
So you're talking like major rollout with some big games.
And they said that the way it works is the AI will catch if you make a movement that does not track with what AI recognizes as human.
Now, maybe it's just by pure luck that you accidentally do a weird twitch, and maybe it
thinks it's AI. So it'll flag you. But unless it sees multiple flags, it won't do anything about
it. So they said the whole goal is that if they catch you cheating, they want to be 100% sure
that you cheated. So you've got to do it more than once and this is the wildest part okay wait this
is the wildest part coming up yeah my brain's already flipping over inside my head right now
the ai of any brain watches you while you play and it only takes two hours of gameplay footage
that they will have what they call a bio profile,
which is as unique as a fingerprint,
meaning they know this is you playing.
Josh, you and I could switch computers
and the AI will know that's Paul Lehman
playing on Josh's computer.
That's not Josh's login.
That's Paul.
It will know how you play
because of all of those little indistinguishable
movements that you make, the way you look around, the way you strafe, all of that.
All right. And that means that if you get banned, it's not just your account. They can ban your
bio profile. That's crazy. Now that's two hours of gameplay. Dude, that's scary in a way because we just had a friend of ours post that he was temporarily banned from Call of Duty.
From Warzone.
Now, I know for a fact this guy doesn't cheat.
He's very good at shooters.
Almost as good as me.
It might be toxic behavior.
You know.
We're not sure yet, but it is.
I have the lean.
I would say it's toxic.
You know who you are.
But that's one of those things where this thing needs to be 100% or 99.9%,
which it sounds like it is, which is really cool.
I am all for this sort of anti-cheat versus the kernel level stuff that we're seeing with Valorant.
Not to get too in the weeds here,
but a lot of developers are doing things
where they're putting kernel level anti-cheats
on your system.
Kernel level basically loads
before your operating system does,
and they are nearly impossible to get rid of.
And you are granting these things full access to your PC.
Now, everybody likes to think,
hey, well, they're not doing things like that,
but the potential is there, right? And so if you are giving me something that just says,
all this is getting access to is your gameplay footage, I'm all for that 100%, you know,
at that point. The one thing they have to be careful of is false positives because
there's good players out there. There are people that can snap. They can flick to somebody's head and pull the trigger,
and they're very good.
So I think the fact that it watches over time is the key here
because, let's be honest,
we all get that lucky shot from time to time.
Right.
Yep.
Yeah, I've always worried what happens if it goes too far.
And I get flagged for cheating.
I would never cheat.
And then I'm like, I'm terrible at shooters anyway.
So they're going to be like, oh, we know this profile this is michael's profile because he's
terrible so that's what the ai is gonna say about me i just can't believe 30 of people cheat that's
that's why first person shooters online just suck nowadays like if you hop into a match of overwatch
you're telling me there's like a 30 chance that that the other Widow or McCree is playing with some kind of, I guess, Cassidy nowadays, has some kind of assist?
That's wild.
Yeah.
But the fact that, yeah.
And so here, a lot of people get banned from free games.
Well, guess what?
You just make a new account, right?
And that's always the talk is like they could ban your IP, but then there's still ways to get around that so the idea of being able to
know your digital online gaming fingerprint is very wild to think about and as soon as i heard
it i was like that actually makes a lot of sense i just never thought about it dude overwatch in
the opening i'm shooting the basketball off the table so people can't try to score baskets
you know like i'm jumping around like we all do those weird little things. There's the people that
spray everything everywhere. There are very identifiable things for sure that I think we
all do in a game like that, that you're right, just kind of are second nature to us and we don't
even think about. But an AI could definitely track and be like, yep, that's Josh. He's shooting that
basketball off the table. What a jerk. Yeah. So basically, Homeless said that this is going to save online gaming.
And since it's already being used and you can use it with any replays or any streamers,
this means that it's already collecting data and already knows streamers and people that
are probably like professional players who make money with online gaming that are already
cheating.
There might be a day that comes down the road.
Where there's all of a sudden a big news story.
That we find out all of these professionals.
Have been cheating when they're streaming.
Like the steroid usage of the MLB.
Back in the early 2000s.
Like it turns out everybody was doing it.
You know.
My name is Rafael Palmeiro.
And I am a professional baseball player.
I'll be brief in my remarks today.
Let me start by telling you this.
I have never used steroids, period.
I do not know how to say it any more clearly than that.
Never.
Yeah.
I have zero tolerance for hackers.
If you are cheating in a video game, like I said, if you want to cheat in a single player game to give yourself some money,
fine, you do what you want.
That doesn't affect anybody.
If you're cheating in an online game,
you are affecting everybody else in that game
and that is lame.
And you're not winning.
Right.
I get it.
If you're doing it to troll people only,
like, okay,
at least I can fathom that,
but that's like a jerky way to troll people too
but yeah just play the game it's okay to be bad most games nowadays put you in a group of people
your skill level and so it's okay if you're in bronze or copper tin or whatever that's fine
that's what you want that's my that's my bracket But that's what you want because you want to have good matches.
And if everybody's in copper is legitimately a copper player, guess what?
You're going to have a ton of fun because everybody's the same at that point.
Yeah.
This is actually a very good testament to this video.
I pulled up the video on YouTube and one of the comments says,
Congratulations to the legit good players out there.
Your honor is about to pay off.
You wonder how many people are going to look so much better now because they actually are that good versus their peers who are just cheating.
And you know what I didn't even think of either until I started looking at those comments.
Someone made a little offhand comment that it would be hilarious if they collect your bio profile and then put that into AI-controlled bots.
So now it's like as if you were playing against yourself.
But you could very easily, I think, improve the AI of characters just by collecting all this data.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
So, yeah, what a cool concept.
Josh and I were just talking earlier today about how AI is going to revolutionize everything.
And I said, I've been dying to tell you about this story.
We got to record because I have one literally regarding gaming that i think is pretty fascinating yeah that's awesome thank you
for that side quest paul because i had no idea and now i can i feel much better about calling
everybody cheaters now too yeah and it makes me feel better to know that i'm just part of the 70
percent that aren't right right i wonder if there's a breakdown like of somewhere like the demographics
or age of these people I'm sure that
like it's bunch of younger you're more
likely to cheat right here's the funniest thing
too is realistically that means that
30% of the people right now currently
listening to this podcast might be
cheaters I'm never going to look
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