Video Gamers Podcast - The Secret Life of Content Creation – Gaming Podcast

Episode Date: September 8, 2026

Gaming hosts Josh, Ryan, and Ace are pulling back the curtain on the Video Gamers Podcast! What actually goes into creating a show about video games every week? From coming up with episode ideas and researching topics to recording, editing, and all the chaos nobody hears, we’re giving you a peek behind the scenes. Find out what it really takes to turn our love of gaming and video games into a podcast, plus some of the hilarious struggles that come with being gaming content creators. Hit record and come hang out with us for a different kind of gaming episode!   Thanks to our MYTHIC Supporters: Redletter, Disratory, Ol’ Jake, Gaius, Jigglepuf, Phelps, Bobby S, NorwegianGreaser, Dettmarp, DingusKhaaan and NightWizard63   Thanks to our Legendary Supporters: Milkman, Drewsky, Jigglepuf and BadGam3rDad   Connect with the show: Support us on Patreon: ⁠patreon.com/videogamerspod⁠ Join our Gaming Community: https://discord.gg/h2cHKAvSmu Follow us on Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/videogamerspod/⁠  Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@videogamerspod Follow us on X:⁠ https://twitter.com/VideoGamersPod⁠  Subscribe to us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@VideoGamersPod     Visit us on the web:⁠https://videogamerspod.com/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Content creation sounds like a dream job. Turn on your Twitch stream, fire up the microphones, and before you know it, the world will know who you are. Riches and fame will surely be yours. But what is that journey really like? Well, on today's episode, we're diving into the untold things that it takes, the behind the scenes, the grind, the joys and the failures. It will be a look into the world of podcasting and content creation like you've never seen. But before we get to that, some introductions are in order. I am your host, Josh, and joining me from not having a clue how any of this works to being an expert in the field in just a few short years, it's Ryan.

Oh, you forgot to unmute yourself, Ryan. Oh, no, me? You were talking about me? Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. I must have been a different Ryan. You said expert.

so I was I wasn't sure I was looking around too man I couldn't find him I know yeah yeah we were both like what who what well one of the clues one of the behind the scenes thing is as the host you have to maybe tell a few lies

about people yeah so you didn't like that I called you an expert right come on that'll never happen again you ain't got a lie one episode you ain't got it and joining us

he's dabbled in content creation before, but now he's a machine of ideas, social media, and keeping his finger on the pulse of the indie industry, it's A's. I feel like that's what I'm kept around for is my ideas. I'm just like a think tank.

And then every time and then I have a really bad one and you both come in like, boo. Yeah, yeah, we shoot down a lot of ideas, Ace, you know what they say.

A lot of ideas and a lot of obscure games that Ace sends us Steam Links for that we say, what is this? I'm the voice of the little man. What is this? The little guy out there. I like how it's like we, you know of ace ends us a game and Ryan and I, neither one of us

respond at all. Sometimes it's just crickets. Absolute crickets. I'm just like, well, that one didn't land. A lot of times I'll just look at a thumb now. I'm like, Ace. Oh, Ace. And I just go back to work. Yep. I see it. Like, what was the fishing, gone fishing or something? That little dumb, stupid friend.

Slop Fishing game that was coming around for a little while. I had like three different people said that to me and I was like, I'm not even watching this trailer. I can tell you from the screenshot alone that this game's stupid and I ain't watching it. Josh, that might be the most, one of the most successful in the games is. Oh my gosh.

Please know. What industry are we in? You know, this is an industry show. This is an industry episode. I like fishing actually, but just not weird friend slop fishing. apparently. So, well, listen, welcome in everybody. This is a little bit different of an episode. You know, every now and then people like for us to kind of give a glimpse behind the scenes. What does it take to do a podcast? You know, how does it change? Like, how does our gaming habits change because of this podcast?

How did we get to where we are? We are one of the top 20 gaming podcasts in the world. So it's, you know, how did we get here? Because it's very difficult to do. we do stream on Twitch sometimes so we you know in theory and it always sounds weird to me to say this because it's like one of those things that just sounds weird but like we are content creators

and like I know right it's just a weird thing to say because I feel like especially as an older person somebody saying oh I'm a content creator is kind of like oh sure yeah okay you know but here we are with a fairly successful

full podcast. I work in the podcast industry as my main career. Um, you know, Ace, you have done podcast before. You've done content creation before. You make some of our video reviews that have gone like spectacularly well. Um, yeah, you know, you've done this before. Ryan, you got kind of drawn into this on a, uh, like, that sounds fun. Sure, I'll give that a try. What impulsive decisions to join things that I don't have time for? What are you talking about? Yeah. And so, you know, you got kind of drawn into it and then thrown kind of to the wolves where it is like, hey, by the way, you got to learn how to edit and you got to learn how to do this and you got to learn how audio stuff. And then you were like, oh my gosh. Like, okay. So that was an interesting journey for you. But now here we are years later. And it's like we're kind of all in the groove and we have good insight into the industry and things like that. So we thought it'd be really cool. Ryan, this was your idea to say, hey, let's just talk about this. Maybe there's some. useful information for people that are in content creation that might want to know. And if nothing else, then people get to look behind the scenes as to what it takes to put this show on.

You get a blueprint right here. Yeah, yeah, this is basically it. And, you know, nothing's off the table as far as the stuff that we're going to cover here. You know, we've had people ask us like, hey, do you guys make money? You know, it's like, yeah, we do make money from the podcast. We have a lot of expenses that we can get into as well. but, you know, this is not a negative financial endeavor for us at that point either. We don't make a lot.

I can tell you that. It's not like we're walking away and quitting our day jobs. I'll tell you that much. Yeah. So, all right. So let's kick this off, guys. Let's just kind of start at the beginning because a lot of people go, how did you guys even start? You know, and then it's like, okay, well, it's been a long road.

I was going to say, well, there's only one historian here who knows how it started. The OG. Yeah, the OG. original. Yep, yep. It's me. Prototype model. I am one of the originals.

This podcast actually started as the multiplayer gaming podcast about five years ago. A guy by the name of Todd that was friends with Paul, was married to Paul's wife's sister. Right? Paul's wife's sister. So that's my cousin. My cousin, by the other. Your cousin, right. My cousin, Bonnie.

Yeah. Yeah. You guys are all family. Yep. Todd came up to Paul and I. We were playing some game and we were all just chatting in the Discord before we started playing. And we were chatting away like we do. And Todd said, we should record this one day, guys.

And we went, what do you mean? He's like, you know, like a podcast. And we were like, yeah, okay, I guess we could do that. And then we did it. We recorded four episodes that the world will never hear because they were the most abysmal episodes you have ever heard in your life. Unless you want to buy them on Patreon for 99. You don't even get them there. Those are not for sale.

Todd invited some friend randomly that we didn't know was going to show up for the first recording ever. So that was weird because we had like four people versus three. It just wasn't good. But the point was, is that we just sat down and we did it. That's like that's the kicker, right? Because everybody goes, look, I don't know how to start. You just start, man. Like legitimately this podcast, here we are five years later, successful.

Top 20 in the world, you know, and it's like for gaming. Sorry, let me, let me clarify because we're not top 20 out of all podcasts here. But, you know, but it's like, you know, but we started because we just tried it one time. We recorded it was terrible people, but we, we did it. And that was it. And then we went, yeah, this wasn't so good. We sent it to a couple friends and family and said, hey. And they went, yeah, that's really not that good, guys.

At least they were honest with you. Yeah, which is great. And then we went, okay, well, let's, you know, we learned some stuff from that. Let's try it again. So we did a second episode. And then legitimately, by the third or fourth episode, you start to, you start to learn a little bit. You start to have a cadence. You start to stop cutting each other off and talking over each other.

And then you start to get into a flow. And that is how any podcast in the world is born, basically. Yep. Do it enough times. Basically, we haven't gotten to it, but practice. Practice episodes are great. that or or if you want to be super duper famous

and then just go start a podcast and then you'll be That's true. You could already have fans and fame. You don't even have to be good at all. You can just jump on a mic. You could just make a bunch of money. This is your celebrities, right?

Because let's be honest, a lot of podcasts are dominated by celebrities because a celebrity starts a podcast. They instantly have a million listeners that are willing to check it out. And they ain't all good guys. No. They ain't all good.

Some of them start good. And then they go downhill real quick. Yeah. Because celebrities realize they're celebrities. So since I am the OG, I have been around for Ryan coming on to the podcast and Ace joining the podcast. So my question to you two is what made you want to join the show? I guess I'll answer this first because I didn't want to join the show directly at first. I felt very, like, weird as a fan of the show

to be like, oh, I guess I'm on the show now. I just wanted to contribute. I wanted to give, you know, an indie segment to you. I wanted to give you like a break, because this is just when Paul was leaving. You know, things were now fully on your shoulders. You are the host. You are the face of this show.

Yeah, I was never expecting to be the host, by the way. Yeah, you were not expecting that. I don't think any of us were expecting you to have to carry that torch. But I was like, you know what? I can, like, do these indie episodes. You could throw in, like, in the middle there to give yourself a break. I'll do these, like, solo 15-minute things. And then that ended up me becoming, uh, me just getting dragged onto the show as a host.

Yeah. Hey, you're gonna, you're gonna just gonna, you're gonna be on this show. Sorry, bud. What was your, what was your first episode, Ace? Do you remember? Uh, the first episode I was on was, uh, the Outlast trials episode. Because I came on. try. I came on as. That's fun. That's quite an episode. I wasn't on the full episode. I just came

it on the end as just like a little addendum because we'd played it all together. We had such a great time. We're like, well, we got to know how this was. Wow, that seems like so long ago. And yet it was not that long ago. So, Ryan, you know, we approached you. Paul, it was actually Paul's idea because this was, you know, we were looking for a third. This was after Michael, who was one of the hosts on this podcast for a while, had to leave. And then Paul and I did it for a little bit with just the two of us. But we feel like the podcast is better with three people. You get a variety of opinions.

You get interjection where it's not just two people talking back and forth. It much more lends itself to what the premise of our podcast is, which is friends talking about games and stuff like that. Yeah. And so Paul said, hey, you know Ryan. I said, yeah, I know Ryan. And Paul went, I think Ryan might be a good fit. he's a charismatic guy. He talks.

He's not dumb. He plays video games. You know, what do you think? And I had met you before and I was like, dude, Ryan's great. Like, do you think you'd be interested? And the funny part was is that you had texted Paul like two weeks prior. Yeah. And said, hey, give me a microphone or when are you going to let me on the pot or something like that.

I think like half joking. And that's what kind of opened the door for Paul to reach out and say, hey, Ryan, like, what do you think? So, no, I remember. I was on a job and I knew you guys had this podcast and I hadn't really listened, you know, and I didn't really listen to podcasts and stuff. I'm usually an audiobook guy, but I was checking it out. And then Paul talked about me and I got so giddy. And I was like, oh, man, I want to be on a podcast.

Like, this sounds cool. Like, just talk video games and hang out with your friends and stuff. So I actually said, you know, like, hey, kick Michael off and bring me on as a joke. Like, totally kidding. I had no ambitions or desires to ever, ever, ever be on a podcast. And then he, Michael actually, he just ended up having to leave. And I had no clue at all. And he was going off to do some other stuff and he couldn't be on the show anymore.

And then Paul's like, hey, so were you serious about that? Like, would you want to be on the show? I was like, oh, really? I was like, oh, okay. I guess. I remember talking to my wife saying, I don't know, what do you think? And then, you know, she's like, if you want to do it, do it. She probably looked at you like you were crazy, dude.

Like, knowing you now and knowing your wife, she was probably like another hobby, Ryan. Really? Another one? Oh, like, really? Dude, you have no idea. Yeah, absolutely. So then, yeah, I, I, you know, joined up. And then we got all the equipment and Paul came over and we helped me set it up and showed me kind of what to do and how we record and stuff.

And then the rest is history, man. It was crazy. Yeah. Little known fact, when Ryan joined the show, you actually took over the audio editing for a while. I did. And learned how to actually kind of do all, like, you had no clue how to do any kind of audio editing at all. So that was something that you had to learn. Yeah.

Paul was a good teacher. All right. So, you know, somehow I rope you two fools into this endeavor. Here we are. That's the video gamers podcast. Now, guys, surely having a gaming podcast is all just fun in games. Like, I mean, it's all just, all we do is just turn on microphones and talk, right? And that's it.

Like, anybody in the world can do that. There's no work involved in any of this. Oh, of course. Yeah, of course. It's all fun of games. No prep. We play games, then we just immediately sit down. That's exactly.

And my name's not surely. So here's what I want to do because, you know, I think a lot of people, and it's okay. It's fair, right? Anybody can have a podcast. You can record on your phone at this point and then try to, to blast it out to the world, right? But there is actually a lot of behind the scenes work that happens to get what you all out there are listening to to you. And I think this is somewhere where we can spend a little bit of time because I think a lot of people don't understand the amount of

work that goes into turning these microphones on, recording this, and then getting it to the world and not having it suck. This is one of our mottoes when we tell people, like, we don't suck. And we go, yeah, you know what, we don't suck. Because let's be honest, a lot of podcasts out there suck. Whether it's the audio quality, they have no flow or structure to them at all. They're just rambling and going anywhere that conversation takes them. But that's kind of hard to listen to because it's like, I want to hear people say things, not like, and make points, not just ramble. So, you know, Ace, can you give people a.

glimpse into a little bit of how do we come up with episode ideas, what's some of the prep that goes into that, just the kind of idea part of it, because you can't, it's not just turning on the microphones. It is turning on the microphones with an intention to talk about something and then being prepared to talk about that thing at the same time. Yeah, absolutely. Like the whole thing is the prep. The prep is important. It is super important. It doesn't mean you need to have a written script that you're following the whole time. Don't do that, in fact. You'll sound like a robot. You will sound like a robot and no one will believe anything you're saying that you have any passion for anything.

But just for an instance, if I want to talk about a particular set of indie games, I will go maybe days ahead and I will get the list of games lined up. I will get links. I will probably even include the genre. And then I will send that to you guys. So you have time to review the footage, see what you think of that before we sit down and we talk about it. So we're not just sitting down and I'm throwing a name at you. and you're having to Google it right here on the show. Ryan's just laughing because he's like,

oh, so many times we were shooting that down. And this is when he sends us like 47 different thinking indie games. Hey, I've gotten way better at actually like knowing. It's another thing you'll realize is like how much time you do actually have to talk about something. Like, Ace, I know you're excited, buddy, but we can't cover 50 indie games on this episode.

I'm sorry. No, like in just looking back at our September games episode that we just did. Yeah, yeah. You sent out a massive list of all the games that are coming out in September, and we all kind of just were in agreement, like, these are the ones we want to talk about. It's not every game, but these are the games that matter to us

that we have something to say about it. I think that ideally it's just all down to your prep and how well you do it. Yeah, for sure. We definitely, we have a thread with us three. We talk every single day, basically from sun up to sundown. Aces on the East Coast, Josh and I are in Arizona, So we're on the west side. Aces up usually a little earlier, but Josh and I get up.

So we're starting talking at like 5am, 530, 6 o'clock, something like that. And we just chat here and there. And then we'll do, we have prep channels, we have content channels, we have all this stuff where we will kind of game plan and set stuff and throw things up for later. Maybe we want to try this down the road. Or, you know, there's a lot that goes into this like Josh said. And then just from that, then we plan on what. we're going to attack, what we're going to talk about. And the amazing Josh kind of sets it up as the host on how he's going to kind of set the flow with everything. And he goes from there.

But the biggest thing, too, is with what we've done and how we've grown is our cadence with each other and knowing where we're going to go and leave off and set things up and hand it over to the other guy. And I think we always vibe really well. So a big thing, too, is like getting people that you just get along with. You like you can hang out with and talk with. And that's what we're doing. And that's one of the best parts that people always say about the podcast is, is it's like hanging out with your friends on the couch and just talking video games.

And that's what we try to do. And I think that's something, you know, I would like to think that we do it pretty well. And I'd say we're also a pretty big testament to these like online friends like gamer relationships. We've never met ace. We've never met in person. I've never met either. It's going to be so weird when we do. But I mean, I'm like really excited about it at the same time.

But yeah, we've never met Ace in real life. Like we've never met in person. Yeah. Online friends are absolutely your real friends. So. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I agree. Just to give people, since we talked about Ryan, you mentioned the kind of ideas.

Like a lot of times, you know, we do three episodes a week, man. We've been doing this for five years now. Coming up with content ideas. Oh, my God. It's honestly one of the toughest things. Yeah, like legitimately. and we all contribute to this, but we have a content ideas channel and a private Discord server. And I'm just going to read you because we just throw out stuff sometimes.

Sometimes it sticks. Sometimes it doesn't. Right. So, well, like, A's came in with the pros and cons of PC gaming, right? Nobody responded to that. Nope. So that was clearly a bad idea. And then, and then Ryan, you came up with right after that blind character order draft,

placement of top five or top 10 in a random order blind, you know, and then you said, might be able to do a theme for each and it could be a few episodes. Ace pops in later on a few days later says, our favorite secrets or Easter eggs in games. And so this is what it is, right, is we just throw out ideas. Like, I'll give a spoiler to people. Ryan, I can't remember if you came up with this one or if his ace,

but somebody said, let's do the songs that, like, in games that you remember, that, like, you know, that these songs that played during a scene or something like that. And the three of us went, ooh, that'll require, little bit of homework, but that's a great episode idea. And so we all go, yeah, I like that idea. So we'll lock it in. And then, you know, as we get to whatever week we're going to record that, we'll say, hey, guys, you know, we're going to do the songs of gaming episode and everybody will go and they'll do their prep at that point. And then we come to the episode ready to talk about

the different things that we're going to talk about. So that anybody out there, the amount of prep that you put in before you turn the microphones on is paramount, paramount to the way that your content is actually going to come across to the world. Yep. And I will say not to toot our horn, but we put an awful lot of time into prepping the show so that we can hop on here and at least have a semblance of an idea of what we're going to talk about and structure. Now, do we get off track?

Absolutely. But, you know, that's part of just what this podcast is. Yeah, it happens. Yeah, I don't look up pronunciation. for everything by any means. But doing your research and your prep and knowing, like, what ideas require more research and more prep and less research and less prep is pretty important when it comes to making fun.

You know, that's going to resonate with people. Oh, yeah. And it will resonate with me. Yeah. And here's the other thing. Ryan,

you touched on one thing that I do want to, I do want to go back to is that you have to like the people that you are recording with. Yeah. Or creating content with. And if you don't, no amount of faking it is ever going to work. You like, we are very good friends. We can tease each other.

We know our limits. We know what works. You know, that kind of thing. And I think that that does come across to people. But if you don't like the people that you are creating content with, you've got a major issue there. Yeah. And you probably need to figure that out before anything. So yeah.

All right. Listen, we're going to take a quick break. We'll talk about the technical side of things because there's a lot that goes on to that as well right after this break. New from Nespresso. Blend wellness into your coffee routine with a coffee plus range, infused with functional benefits. Choose the coffee you love with added B vitamins, like coffee plus B12 to help support immune function, and coffee plus B6 to keep your day moving. Or go with the flow and choose ginseng delight.

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You got to try breakfast. At participating A&W locations in Ontario. Right. So you've got a plan. You've got a topic. You know what you're going to talk about? You've done your research. how do you get it out to the world boys

you yell that's that's a great question hey everybody go see how expensive the new board is I got a podcast I got a podcast I got a podcast yeah

put it on your Facebook for your mom to see yeah there you go I did tell my mom I'm like mom you better be Patreon supporter or else Paul's mom was for a very long she was oh my gosh what was her name yeah yeah yeah yeah

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was it. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I was probably like Cindy Lou or something. She does play Fortnite.

She did make us play Fortnite. Wasn't she streaming for a while too? Yeah. Oh, yeah. She streamed every night. Yeah, she was big in the Fortnite. Yeah, it was. All right.

So here's the interesting part, right? Nobody, and this is another tip for anybody out there that might be wanting to get into content creation. If you sound terrible or you look terrible, nobody will ever want to stick around people. if you can't put out a quality product, it does not matter about anything else. If your audio... If your audio sounds like this,

nobody's going to stick around to listen to you. Yeah, let me just take this off. Now, you can see how I really know. Yeah. Awful. And so, and so yes, there is some... See, I'm looking at my waveforms right now, and I just...

Yeah, you guys just ran everybody away. Oh, yeah. Everyone's gone now. Now, they don't believe us anymore. So there is a technical side to this. But the technical side is not hard. And with the beauty of YouTube and a few videos, anybody, if they take the time,

can actually figure out how to make decent sounding audio. It's really not that hard people. And it's not going to cost you a million bucks either. No, you don't need like a $200 microphone. Oh, yeah. Ace. Ace with your $200 microphone. I say it with my $200 microphone.

As he says, which is $200 microphone, we were just yelling at him. Like, this is behind the scenes too. Ace, I think your gains up too high. you can hear you breathing I totally bumped it with my wrist So if you if you heard

Did you? Is that what it was? I think I totally bumped it with my wrist Bam see this is how This is how many episodes we've done Where the second the audio's off We can tell Without even like listening to like replaying the episode Live we can hear it

We know one of us is like off Yeah something's off Gaines a little too high or something like that So so it also comes to just practice And you know repetition Yeah Yeah yeah Honestly that's one

thing is practice makes everything better. You know, you just have to do it a hundred times before you really start to feel comfortable with it. A good microphone, a good microphone for somebody run you $80 to $100. There's people that, listen, the sure SM, S&B 75s and you don't need a $400 microphone to sound good people. I can tell you that right now. I'm using, you know, Ryan has a, I think we both started off with an $80 microphone, a $40 audio deck and a microphone. Started off. I still have it. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. Some of us didn't upgrade. Okay. Yeah. Oh, I inherited it. I inherited it. I didn't pay for it. Whatever. Whatever. But, you know, $140, you can have a very good microphone audio setup. You need recording software. That is free. We use a free program called Sonar by band labs. That is free. Audacity is another very common one. You don't need to spend money on recording software. You do.

need to know how to edit. And Ryan, I kind of mentioned this where you started off with this early on, but you can record, you can talk, you can have a plan, you can have structure, you can do all that, you can be funny and entertaining and blah, blah, blah, but you have to get the audio out to the world. You have to have some semblance of editing skills, I'll say, to be able to trim off the front, the back and whatever, right? People ask us, how much do you guys edit your episodes? We've been doing this a long time. The editing for these is basically, it's not editing out content. It's just simply like processing the audio. So it sounds a little bit better than the raw input. It is trimming the beginning in the end. And because we have a video side to this, you know, it is lining up the audio

with the video and then trimming that. If we, you know, like the overlays that we have in the intro and outro, those are all added in in the post-production part of the editing so that you all out there get to see and hear what you hear at that point. Which, by the way, it's not super hard to learn. And you'll develop just like anything, you know, it's a funny thing because like I remember talking with Paul about it and then Josh as well because he does so much editing and production. Like, it starts to look like the matrix.

Like I can tell. when I was editing Josh does it now but like you can tell who's talking and like what's going on just from waveforms so you get to like to this like next level

Yeah it's so weird Because I'm like Oh that's a Paul laugh Or oh that's a this Or you know you can You can start to go You know throughout that But um

The basic editing Like because when I did it We were just doing the audio stuff And I would throw in Uh audio clips And add stuff in here and there You know stuff like that But overall, it's really not that hard.

And if you have the right stuff and you just do a little bit of research, you can clip things, get in lined up. And you can really, you know, and if you watch our pre-show, we always sync. And that helps Josh out, you know, or me if I was editing, like, to line everything up. And so there's just a little bit of tips and tricks that you can find all of it on the internet. And it'll help you tremendously. But it's not as hard as you may think. And for audio only, it's super easy.

Yeah, audio only is. When you're not, video complicates things. Yeah, when you're not syncing that, especially when somebody like starts, you know, with their, with their recording 15 minutes in and there's something like that. Yeah, who would ever do that? Yeah, who would ever. Yeah. That'd be crazy. And then, and then just to wrap, put a bow on this, this kind of technical side of things, there are distribution platforms.

There's a bunch out there. Buzz Sprout, Libson, you know, there's a bunch out there. There's a bunch out there. There's a lot of free ones. There are some paid ones that allow you to potentially make ad revenue and things like that. Anybody that is in content creation do not expect to make money in content creation. That is the biggest fallacy that I think I have ever heard in my life is that I can't tell you the number of people that I heard go, I'm going to be a content creator. And it's like, no, you're not.

You're not. Not for a job. You know what I mean? This is absolutely a passion project. it is a hobby. You can take it very seriously. That's not to say that it's not people's dreams and things like that, but do not ever approach content creation with the idea that you will make money off of it.

That is the worst way to go into content creation that I can imagine because 99.99% of people will never make a dime. And if you do, it's not going to be more than what you spent to get to that point in the first place. Do not go into this thinking you are going to make money. people. It's got to be probably worse odds than like professional sports, which is crazy. Like, think of all the kids in the world that play basketball. And then there's only what, 13 players, 15 players on a team. Like, and you have the G league and stuff like that. But like, and then there's only, you don't have many teams in the league and stuff. So there's,

there's not that many spots out there. And then like to make money with content creation is the same thing. Like there's there's a lot of people trying, but the money only goes to like a few. Like it funnels to a certain spot and so yeah, I would not ever do this expecting to like, you know, get rich. I'm going to be YouTuber and retire, you know.

Yeah, no. Do it because you love it. Do it because you love to do it. I still. I have no inclination that I'm going to be a big time podcast or anything like. I do this because it's fun. I get to hang out with you guys. We're going to be talking about games anyways. we might as well record it and

then we can at least get games for free, you know? Yeah, yeah, this pays for our games. Do not, do not ever expect to make money in content creation people. That is the biggest fallacy and it's honestly one of those things that I see on social media all over the place is people wonder why they're not successful

and they're not making money and it's like, dude, because you're never going to make money. Like honestly, like it's like it's 0.001% of people making any kind of money off of us. It's not impossible, but it's very, very unlikely. All right. Couple quick fire questions for you guys. So we'll move through these quick so that we can try to hit a few of these. What's your favorite part of this podcast?

I think my favorite part is sitting down, like loosening it up for the pre-show, just like getting into it, just vibing, hanging out, having a great time. Yeah. That's cool. Ryan, what about you? I love, I genuinely just love recording with you guys. That's exactly mine. Yeah, that's, yeah.

Yeah, it's, you know, even the. the pre-show two stuff, but like sitting down and just getting to just hang out with your buddies. Like not a lot of times due to, as an adult, you get to hang out with your friends and like, we get to do it and record it. And then it pays for our games. So it's all the better for it, which is awesome. But we still get to, we get to hang out. We get the chat. We talk. And so I love just recording with you guys. Yeah. Yeah. Same. This right here is my absolute favorite part to do in the podcast. And I know we do it three times a week, but it never gets old, man. And is the fun part. Always look forward to it. You never go dreaded. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the people. And I, I, I, I, the people. And again, like I said, like, we've always said in every episode, like, join the discord. It's just such an amazing community. You know, it's just such an amazing community. You know,

that we all, all of us, hundreds of us chat every single day. And we all talk and talk about games and talk about life. And there's like a life help section that we chat about things with people have problems. There's all this stuff. That too. Like it's a community. And like I feel like I'm part of something that I wasn't before,

which is also a huge reason that I love this so, so much. Yeah, absolutely. The community is what keeps us going, dude. Like legitimately, it is what. It's what drives us and keeps us going year after year after year. All right. What's your least favorite part, boys? My least favorite part is...

Peeling for Josh. We know because you don't do it, Ryan. My least favorite part is managing our social medias because sometimes they're mean to me and I don't like it. Yep. Yep. I like making the shorts. I make great little shorts out of these episodes. Ace makes every reel that you guys see.

if you're on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook. Except for the Devon Love one. I made that one recently. That's fair. That was some of you were mean to me. As I said, SoulsLyx instead of Soulsborn. Which we heard about in our chat and it's just like, Ah, yeah.

You can't repeat what I said to say. I know, I didn't notice how I went. That was a lot of cuss words that I didn't say. For me, it does kind of vary sometimes because I do the editing. The editing is just straight work. I do that a lot for my job as well, so I'm very good at it and I can kind of fly through it, but it is also just mundane. You know, taking the audio of the video, you know, it's just, it's whatever.

It needs to get done so that we have a good product, but ultimately it's like, I just, that's not fun for me at all. I will say the other part is just sometimes when we're all three of us having like, just not, we're not creative and nobody can come up with an idea for an episode. And then it's like, we generally record on Sundays. And it's like Saturday afternoon. And as the host, I need to be prepared. You know what I mean?

Like I have to know kind of what we're going to do and what we're going to talk about and kind of have an idea of how things are going to go. And when it's Saturday afternoon and I know we're recording on Sunday and we don't even have a game plan yet, that can be a little tough where it's like, okay, guys, like we have to come up with something. And then so trying to come up with ideas when you're not feeling super creative can be a little tough sometimes as well because it's like, I don't know, man. Like you just start throwing stuff out there and hope it sticks. We've definitely had a few moments of that too, like where we're just like, all of us are like, did we do this before? Have we done this one? Have we done this one?

I can't remember. We're going to do a repeat or what are we doing? Slims behind the curtain, this is why we like it when we have news to talk about because the news writes itself. We don't have to really put a lot of thought into, hey, we're just reporting what's going on in the gaming world. This is easy. You know, some episodes require a lot of preps.

Some episodes require very little prep. And so it's nice to have those ones that, like, we don't need to do a lot to get ready. I can tell you in our, in our thread, if I was to search news sucks this week, it would have a bazillion, like, hits. Like, it would just be all up. And then we're like, news sucks this week. What are we going to come up with? And then we have to come up with something for the twig. Because, like, we're not going to just talk about crap.

That doesn't matter. Like, so. Yeah, we don't want to be boring or depressing news. Exactly. That's where you, you know, you pivot to something else that makes sense or something that we can expand upon and make something hopefully somewhat entertaining for all you find people listening. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

And then we'll end on this one. Do you have a best or favorite moment from the podcast? Oh, man. I feel like there's so many great moments. I think one of my favorite moments was been me and Ryan surprised you on Halloween with bald caps and fake ball. You guys got me pretty good on that one.

I'm not going to lie. I had no idea. That was pretty fun for us. How you both kept that from me is I don't have any clue. We're professionals, dude. I shipped that to Ace via, thank you, Daddy Bezos with Amazon. And we got our, we got our bald caps. And oh, man, that was the best.

That was so good. It was. Yeah, that was really good. I, you know, I love, I absolutely love recording with you guys. We, we, you know, we have so many like show moments and stuff like that. I am a very like driven, uh, like progression and seeing like that the podcast is going somewhere and that, you know, we're, we're moving forward or coming up with good ideas. So a lot of the moments for me, and I know this sounds really silly, but like legitimately every time that we get a new review and somebody is like, I love your show. Like, That is the fuel to me. Like, anytime we get a notice that, like, somebody signed up on Patreon, it's like, bro, there's people out there that like what we do enough to, like, want to support it. Like, to, like, because here's the thing, right? Like, I am not an artistic person at all. I am surrounded by artists.

My whole family are artists. Like, my extended family are artists. Like, I don't have a shred of artistic talent at all. But, like, there's a part of me that goes, hey, I think we're pretty good. at this, this podcasting thing, right? And so to be able to feel like we're good at some kind of creation, I still hate the term content creation, but to go like, you know, we're not too bad at this is, is insanely rewarding for me personally. And so that is where I really like, that's what I feed off of. I feed off of like, hey, we have new members in the Discord that are talking in the

community. We had somebody that left us a review. We had somebody that signed up on Patreon. on. We hit a record number of downloads that we never hit before. The podcast is doing well. Like these are all the things that like fuel me as far as like, why do you keep going? Like, what do you love about this kind of thing? So for me, that's, it's those little moments that really kind of resonate with me. Yeah, that's fair. So, no, that's good. I, I, those definitely, um, those definitely hit for me as well. I love seeing, uh, the expanse and like us growing and things moving forward. which was so cool with why I loved us doing the fan fusion so much. Like that was,

I almost brought that up, dude. That was, that was one of mine. And I know we were wanting to do it this year. We were going to actually fly ace out for it. Unfortunately, they like, they got greedy.

They got gripped the price. It was insane. Like the amount of money it would have been. And we don't really genuinely, it was just like an exposure thing. Like, we don't get anything from it. We're not selling a product.

We're not, you know, we're just selling ourselves and we're like, hey, listen to us. And so it was hard to justify an expense like that that was thousands and thousands of dollars. Yeah. But it was such a cool thing, though, being able to like follow you around on the cam on the, on the, on the, on the. Oh, when I, when I streamed it and stuff like that. Yeah.

That was, it was just neat to be like a part of it and there and have a booth and just, and then just get to talk to people and just say, hey, this is what we do and, and feel like that's when I really kind of felt. like man I'm like part of a podcast like this is cool you know have people spin the wheel and I'm giving away stuff and I which I love to do like I love doing that and talking to kids and and you know come on over here you go and I three printed like literally like thousands of thousands of stuff like that I was just giving away and so it was it was a blast that was probably one of my favorite things was doing the uh doing the fan fusion stuff like it was good yeah all right well listen people, there you go. One of the parts of

a podcast is knowing when to end an episode and not dragging it out too long as well. You know, we've had people ask us like, hey, why do you always say you're out of time? Because honestly, we'll ramble forever. And honestly, that's not conducive. We used to say 35 minutes, which, by the way, we're at 42 is our issue.

That's the thing, we will go for a full hour. So this is the end of this episode. Listen, if you want to continue this conversation, if you have questions for us about any of this stuff. We're this is what we do. We, we are in our Discord server. We have a channel that is specific to like episode chat. So if you have questions for us, if you want to know more behind the scenes, if there's a topic that you didn't want, or that we didn't get to get to ask us. Come to our Discord server. If you ask, all three of us

are insanely active in there. We will answer your questions. If you leave a comment on this episode with a question, we will answer you there as well. We want this to try to kind of of give people a glimpse into not only this show and how we do this, but just kind of the industry as a whole and just content creation as a whole. I mean, we stream. We make videos. We make social media reels. We do this podcast. I mean, we kind of do it all. It doesn't mean we're great at all of it, but we do a little bit of all of it. So we kind of have some, uh, some knowledge into that. If you want to start a podcast, come chat. We'll help you. You know, we'll give you. We'll give you recommendations and all that. Like, I mean, we're more than happy to help.

Yeah, none at all. You know, we're more than happy to help. So the only thing we ask in return is that you join the best gaming community on the planet. And it's free to join. There's a link in the episode description. It is our Discord server. There's multiple ways to find it. You can find it on our social media.

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Patreon at VideoGamer's Pod or again, we try to make it easy for you. There's a link in the episode description. All right. I think that's it, boys. This was a fun one. Hopefully, people People learn some stuff, got some insight into what we do. That's it for this episode. All right. So one more glimpse behind the scene. Ryan just sent a message because we wrap me out. Don't wrap me out.

I'm telling you, because Ryan just told Ace that his lipstick looks good. Ace's white balance might be just a touch off again because Ace had a week or two where his lips looked really red. And we were trying to figure that out. And we couldn't. Turns out it was his camera. There you go. There's your last glimpse behind the scenes. People, that's it for this episode.

Until next time, happy gaming. Ace, give me a big old kiss. See ya. Peace now. I don't like that at all.